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Speaker 1: Before we jump in, we must warn you this episode

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Speaker 1: contains explicit content, such as sexual abuse that may be

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Speaker 1: disturbing to some people. Listener discretion is advised. Also, if

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Speaker 1: this is the first time you're listening to Sacred Scandal,

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Speaker 1: everything will make a lot more sense if you start

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Speaker 1: with episode one. In June twenty nineteen, the people of

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Speaker 1: California filed a felony complaint against Nasanjua Quing Garcia Asali

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Speaker 1: Ranjel Melendez, Susanna Medinawojaka, and Alondro Cambo. The nineteen page

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Speaker 1: document details twenty six counts of criminal activity, including multiple

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Speaker 1: commit the crime of human trafficking. Five anonymous victims, known

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Speaker 1: as Jane does describing detail the crimes committed against them.

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Speaker 1: The acts and the complaint are stomach churning. I must

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Speaker 1: going to describe some of them to you. At Nason's request.

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Speaker 1: Alonda took over the East La Youth Group in two

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Speaker 1: thousand fourteen, a little after he became the Apostle. It

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Speaker 1: was in this role as a trusted leader of Lauzel

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Speaker 1: Mundo that Alonda began to groom underaged church members, drawing

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Speaker 1: expertly from the same unwritten handbook that had been used

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Speaker 1: on Alondra herself. She took the girls on trips to

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Speaker 1: in for Nassan's pleasure. She gave them Kinki's coolgar outfits

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Speaker 1: and directed them to touch themselves while she took their photographs.

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Speaker 1: She told some of the girls to strip, slather whipped

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Speaker 1: if they went against any of it, against any of

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Speaker 1: against God himself. Those pictures, of course, were sent straight

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Speaker 1: to Nason. Alondra didn't just find miners for Nason when

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Speaker 1: he visited La. She would sometimes participate in the abuse,

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Speaker 1: joining the Apostle and its victims in bed or directing

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Speaker 1: their dances and tablaus alongside Susanna Medina and the Sali Ranjel.

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Speaker 1: Some of these victims were as young as twelve. To

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Speaker 1: understand how Alondreu Campo the victim became a Landreau Campo

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Speaker 1: the predator, we have to take a closer look at

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Speaker 1: the inner workings of the cult, the tide control, the

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Speaker 1: constant fear, the guild and shame, the psychological manipulation that

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Speaker 1: is life inside La luzel Mundo. This is Sacred Scandal,

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Speaker 1: season two, episode seven, Rumor's Handbook. I'm your host, Robert Arsa.

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Speaker 2: We were five minutes late. We had a curfew, and

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Speaker 2: we were five minutes late.

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Speaker 1: The trouble began when Elisa Floydes came back minutes after

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Speaker 1: her curfew. She grew up in Liwling, Texas, with strict

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Speaker 2: Because we weren't allowed to be with guys by ourselves

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Speaker 2: or anything like that. Hey, can y'all come with me

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Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, yeah, so you were the chaperone. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it was me and my sister.

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Speaker 1: Elisa was eighteen. Her sister was a couple of years older.

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Speaker 2: And our father kicked us out.

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Speaker 1: Permanently because the church told them girls were not supposed

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Speaker 2: When we got there and we were trying to get

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Speaker 1: They weren't actually with the boys, they were just accompanying

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Speaker 1: At first, the sisters went to live with an aunt,

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Speaker 2: My sister said, well, the boys said they're going to

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, we'll do that.

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Speaker 1: This was the nineteen nineties. The arrangement wasn't necessarily a

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Speaker 1: Word got back to their dad that Alisa and her

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Speaker 2: The thing is that the person that I got married with,

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Speaker 1: Friendships between men and women in LDM are prohibited, and

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Speaker 1: all interactions between genders are closely monitored. If you want

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Speaker 1: you're deemed to be flirting with indecency and the church

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Speaker 2: They took us to the courthouse. We went inside the paper.

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Speaker 1: And nobody cares if you don't like or even know

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to be married. I didn't really like

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Speaker 1: In LDM, especially for the unconditionals, those families closest and

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Speaker 4: Because if you're a regular member of the church, you're

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Speaker 1: Arranging who people marry is a common practice in cults

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Speaker 1: like le Uzel Mundo to decide who someone loves, who

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Speaker 1: arranged marriages within the community is a key aspect of

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Speaker 1: LDM holds these big mass weddings whereas many as five

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Speaker 1: Often the LDM members meet each other for the first

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Speaker 4: But all of these five thousand members, let's just say

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Speaker 1: Documentation, to get immigration papers through marriage and help grow

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Speaker 1: And if you don't like your apostle arranged marriage, well

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Speaker 1: too bad, because in LDM, divorce is a sin, as

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Speaker 2: He was abusive, and I would go to the ministers

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Speaker 2: and I told him, and he says, there's no divorce

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Speaker 1: The ledm's ministers did not see Elisa's abuse as a

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Speaker 2: Everything was always my fault. If he pushed me down,

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Speaker 1: Because you see, in LDM, women are seen as utterly

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Speaker 2: Everybody that I have spoken to that are out of

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Speaker 1: In l EM. Since birth women have little to no agency.

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Speaker 1: They are their father's daughters, their husband's wives, and their

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Speaker 1: Alondre Campos. That's after the break. Right after Alondreo Campo,

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Speaker 1: Susanna Medina and Nason Jua Guing Garcia were taken into custody,

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Speaker 1: the case entered into what's known as pre trial hearings.

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Speaker 1: A pre trial hearing is an audience where the prosecution,

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Speaker 1: the accused, and the judge share information such as evidence

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Speaker 3: Where we're on the record people of Garcia and Mohaka,

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Speaker 3: the defendance of president with the defendant Mohaka carry nine

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Speaker 1: In video after video from the court proceedings, Nason sits

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Speaker 1: impassive in his orange jumpsuit, black framed glasses thinning salt

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Speaker 1: The court ultimately decided that Alondra was accountable, but not

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Speaker 4: I unfortunately trafficked two girls in my entire life. I

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Speaker 1: To understand just how much this rape culture was built

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