1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: What's up, guys, Welcome to a brand new episode of 3 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: Three Rounds with Daniel Cormier and my guy Dean Thomas. Dino, 4 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: what's up, baby, man? 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 3: What's happening man? Good to see you. Always a pleasure 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 3: to chop it up with you. 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a grind. It's been a grind, bro, 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: like I've been in training camp. Hey, last time we fought, 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: it was like I got you out of there in 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 2: the first round. That homs out to. 11 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: Jay, I'm ready for you now, baby. I done went 12 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: the war with Denon's I'm ready today and. 13 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 2: He won and he won. So yeah, further predvice. All right, Dino, 14 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: let's go boys, Ready for the fight experience Round one. 15 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: Dean Thomas so Inslamakachev is now fighting Jack Della Madelana 16 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: in Madison Square Garden. We know that as a date, 17 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: but the words are starting to come out from the 18 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: Jack Della side. Do you agree with Jack Dela Maddelena 19 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: when he says Islamia Kantchev is an easier fight because 20 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: his stand up isn't as good as balal Mohammad. 21 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily agree with him on this, but I 22 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: understand what he's trying to say, I think because Islamahatchev's 23 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: striking style is a little more predictable, He's a little 24 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: bit more fundamentally sound than Balaoso blows a little bit 25 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: more wild. It makes him a little bit more unpredictable. 26 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: So I think the fact that Islam is a little 27 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: more predictable, it might be a little easier to see 28 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: punches coming from him and to defend punches. 29 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: Well, it's just something that he's experienced before. But Jack 30 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: Della even said he thought that Volk beat him in Perth, 31 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: Western Australia in the first fight. I don't agree, but 32 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: I gotta tell you this, Jack Dela Maddelena is doing 33 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: what he needs to do to not only give himself confident, 34 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: but really try to poke away at the confidence of Markatchev. 35 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: Markeatcheff feels like he's the best fight in the world. 36 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: He was proving that as a numbre power pump. But 37 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: Jack Della is doing what he feels he needs to 38 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 2: to kind of try to get into the mind because Dean, 39 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: you and I both know it's not just about the fight. 40 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: There is so much that gold into not only preparation 41 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 2: and getting ready for a fight, but also poking and 42 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: prodding that guys. I remember multiple times in fights where 43 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: every time I came into contact with the person, I 44 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: tried to chip away at the confidence and the assuredness 45 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: that they had. And I kind of feel like Jack 46 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 2: Della believes that Dean I can't imagine watching Islam you 47 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 2: feel like his striking isn't up to par with the law. 48 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing. You're right about this. 49 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: You have to pick away at those guys because for 50 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: so long the Dagistanhi wrestlers have been so far ahead 51 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: of everybody else. They've been running through everybody else, so 52 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: that are around them has had guys losing before the 53 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: fight started. 54 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 3: But as we see, the gap is closing. 55 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: Morob and Umar, Paul Hughes and uslannder Maga Mettow that 56 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: was as close as as to a fight as you 57 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: can get. 58 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 3: So the aura around them is closing. 59 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: So the more that Jack pokes away at him and 60 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: lets them know, listen, I'm not afraid of you. I'm 61 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: not afraid of the Dakastani's style of wrestling. I think 62 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: that gives him a lot of advantages. So if nothing else, 63 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: this is just letting them know we're not afraid, and 64 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: we're going to come at your head. 65 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: That's the thing though, right it's I believe that Jack 66 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: Della is gonna have to deal with that. The wrestling 67 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: of Islam, of course, the striking of Islam, of course, 68 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: But ultimately his fighting's gonna come down to exactly what 69 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: happened in the Ballall fight. If you can defend take 70 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: downs and make Markachev fight him over the course of 71 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: a long fight standardee, that's where his chances are elevated. 72 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: Because as long as he's getting grappled down, it's gonna 73 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: be hard for him because there's no one liked Islam 74 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: on top. That's why he's finishing it. Everybody I don't know. 75 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: It's like a crazy stat. Markoa Jeff finished like the 76 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: last seven eight guys he's fought, so he's not like 77 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: just winning fights. He's finishing fights. And for Jack Della 78 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: to stop that, he's not ultimately stopping his number one skill, 79 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: and that's the wrestling. And after watching the Baalo Mohammed fight, 80 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 2: he still he seems more prepared to do that today 81 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 2: than he might have been in the past. 82 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: And I think the answer lies in Craig Jones Craig 83 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: Jones has done an amazing job with those guys, especially 84 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: with Volk, what he did with Volk, and then also 85 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: too with what we saw the improvements from Jack Della 86 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: that we saw from the Gilbert Burns fight to the 87 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: Ballaw fight, and I think that's attributed to Craig Jones. 88 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: Now giving Craig Jones has more time to help Jack 89 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: Della this. 90 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: Time three months, this time of posed to like weeks. 91 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that doing like little jiu jitsu 92 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: tricks and just different things that Craig can come up with, 93 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be the answer for him. 94 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. 95 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 2: And Markoa Jeff has finished seven of eight. Only one 96 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: that he did not finish recently is Volkanovski and then 97 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: very first fight whenever they went and he won a 98 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: unanimous decision. I think there's a lot to this fight, 99 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 2: and I think that is one of the best fights 100 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: that we can make in the UFC. And I'm happy 101 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 2: that we're finally at a point. Do you know where 102 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 2: we're making it? Look before we in round one a 103 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 2: few weeks ago, I was on the I was on 104 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 2: the show. I was called a fight and it said 105 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: mute DC's Mike and Jack Dela Madalana actually was the 106 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 2: one to retreat. Did you see that? 107 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: I saw that. I'm like, yo, man, what's up with 108 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 3: this cat? 109 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: So? What's up with Jack? So? I just texted far Jack, 110 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:33,119 Speaker 2: I go Jack, wrong, bro? What's up? Why? Jack? Why? 111 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 2: And Jack? Della rode back the champ. The champ just 112 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 2: rode back my bad DC. It was a bad take. 113 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: Listen. 114 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: So heads up to the boy Jack Dela Mattelana for 115 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: responding to me when I said that when I say, Yo, Jack, 116 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: what's up? 117 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 3: Baby? 118 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 2: I've always been respectful. You got my bad DC bad tape. 119 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I don't like that. DC. 120 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: You know how I feel about these dudes disrespecting the champ. 121 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 2: From Experience Wrong two, Dean Luke rock Hole got knocked 122 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 2: out last weekend. Man, it was not good dre until 123 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: misfits boxing, A lot of heat on it, a lot 124 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: of arguing, a lot of bravado, a lot of chess 125 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: poking out and then when the fight started, Luke gets 126 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: dropped in the first round. Fight keeps going, but then 127 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: later he got dropped and finished. Bad Dean, did you 128 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: watch that? I know you saw the clip, but did 129 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: you watch the fight. 130 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 3: I didn't watch the whole fight, man, I saw the 131 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 3: two clips. 132 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: I couldn't bring myself to even watching the whole fight, 133 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: just because I felt so bad for Luke rock Hole. 134 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: The biggest issue here DC is we have to do 135 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: a better job of not allowing these guys to get 136 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: put in this position. 137 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 3: I don't know what it is, man. 138 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: We you know, we complain about fight or pay, we 139 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: complain about all this other stuff. 140 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 3: Judges reps. When are we going to say, yo, enough 141 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 3: is enough? Man? These guys are retired. 142 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: They should not be in this position to be getting 143 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: knocked out by these killers. 144 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 2: You know what's crazy. It's like I was watching Darren Till, 145 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 2: and Darren Till has always been a tremendous boxer, like 146 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: that's one of the things that he can do. But 147 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: I have now watched Luke, who's one of my great 148 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: friends and a guy that had a great career, get 149 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: beat in bare knuckle boxing by Mike Perry, broke his 150 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: jaw in his teeth and get knocked out badly against 151 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: Darren Till. And for me, what makes me sad is 152 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 2: watching guys that have had those careers go and fight 153 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: these fights that are really meaning that they mean nothing. 154 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: And I guess it's for money, but it sucks when 155 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: you see a guy that was a champion all of 156 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: a sudden almost say to hell with the legacy. I'm 157 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: just gonna go get paid. Because it felt like Luke 158 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: did a good job of helping to build the fight 159 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: with the bad blood and everything. But when you get 160 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: past the surface, one of Luke's biggest issues has been 161 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: and I can say this as a friend of someone 162 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: who loves him, is when Michael Bisman was able to 163 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 2: hit him, people realize, oh my god, if I can 164 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: hit him, I can put him out. So the day 165 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: he started going balls to the wall and trying to 166 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: hit him and then they would put him out. But 167 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: now he's boxing where you're definitely gonna get hit, and 168 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: that to me is the problem. 169 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 3: Who's sign I mean, who signed off on this? 170 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: That to me, he he Well, here's the thinking about Luke, right, 171 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 2: He's ultra confident. So you're his management team, he will 172 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: convince you that he's ready and he looks good physically. 173 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 2: In these companies want to build off the name, then 174 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: they want to build off what he did in his 175 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: career and use him as a springboard because now could 176 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 2: you imagine what's in line for there? Until one thing, 177 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 2: Derek till should fight Jake Paul's him though, because I 178 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: have to see it, what he saw. He knows how 179 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 2: dangerous that fight is on. 180 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: That's the next fight for Jake Paul, This Javonte Davis 181 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: thing ah, who I mean, who gives a damn about this? 182 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: He needs to be fighting dar until right now. I'm 183 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: telling you, though, what they're doing to these retired MMA 184 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: guys is exploitative and absolutely wrong, taking advantage of their 185 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: names and the legacy and what they've created inside the octagon. 186 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: Now they're using these guys as springboards for their own organizations, 187 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: and it is one hundred wrong. 188 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: You know who who? 189 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 3: But who? 190 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: Like ultimately like who does the majority of it fall on? 191 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 2: How do you tell a Luke Rockhold, hey, you're not 192 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: good enough anymore? Like whose responsibility is it to tell 193 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: a Luke rock Hold, Hey, you're not good enough anymore? 194 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 2: You should not be fighting? 195 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. 196 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: That's the problem is. I don't have the answer to that. 197 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: Like you did it because they cut them like what other. 198 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 2: People, you know, Chuck Lindell Rata would not let chuck 199 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: fight anymore exactly. 200 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: I mean, but that's the thing, Like, what other professional 201 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: organization will they allow guys to participate if you can't 202 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: do the job. It may fall on the commissions. It 203 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: may fall on commissions for signing off on these things. 204 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, something good. Something has got a change in that 205 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 2: regard because Bro, I hated it, Bro and he got 206 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 2: knocked out so bad. And then you could tell when 207 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: it don't matter much because right afterwards they're in a 208 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: picture together at a bar. 209 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 3: After all that, right just to get paid. 210 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 2: It's said, you could just tell that it don't matter, 211 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: like it just doesn't matter to him that, uh, he 212 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: got knocked out and that sucks. 213 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: Oh DC, help me help me understand this? Man, why 214 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: are they letting these guys do this? I don't know, 215 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: Help me understand this? And they take afterwards. 216 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: I honestly just don't know what we are supposed to 217 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 2: do because I don't know if I could tell Luke, 218 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 2: hey man, you shouldn't be fighting this fight. I mean, 219 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: we're friends and we spent a lot of time together, 220 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 2: But I don't know if I say it. If he 221 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 2: sees me as his brother, seeing someone that cares about him, 222 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 2: or maybe I'm hating. But at the end of the day, 223 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 2: right now, man to uh, it's not good. Not good. 224 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 2: But after the fight there until Hey said, man, it 225 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: was very easy and that sucks. That really sucks. Experienced 226 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: wrong three Hey, Dean Thomas. The middleweight division is heating up. 227 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: But as we were about to start this, I had 228 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 2: a mind a little mind fart, and I go, who's 229 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 2: the champion? And I said, oh, Hamsa And what was 230 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 2: your response? Oh, you're so paid? 231 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 1: I said, if you know, you're so petty, you know, man, 232 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, man, I'm just. 233 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 2: You are what I about to do? That don't like 234 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 2: to lose? Boy, that's Dan Tom. I'm no, I'm not 235 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 2: gonna get you. Take you out and he picked me up. 236 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 2: He was so strong. I was like, Yo, this dude 237 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: is wrong. And then Drakes went in there. Drake's went 238 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: in there. Just not definite take downs. Man, it was 239 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: the craziest situation. I don't understand, but I digress. Okay, 240 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: So howm's out your minds the champ. But we have 241 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 2: two big fights man, this weekend. Nasar Dina my Ball 242 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 2: takes on Kyle Bohoo and then later down the line, 243 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: Fluffy Hernandez takes on Ray near the Ritter. Dean, are 244 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 2: you going to France? 245 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 3: I'm going to France. I'm leaving in a couple of hours. 246 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: See yay, So you're heading to France to go watch? 247 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 2: But are you watching? Dean? Can you comfortably say this 248 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: is the number one contendents fight. 249 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: I can't say comfortably that this is for as strong 250 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: as this is, and it would have been the number 251 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: one contenders fight had Fluffy not looked as good as 252 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: he did in that lands actly, but this could be 253 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 1: the number one contenders fight. This is a it's a 254 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: rat race right now in the middleweight division. The middleweight 255 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: division has never been this strong in the history of 256 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: the middleweight division. 257 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, but how do you how do you separate yourself 258 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 2: because the reality is everybody's looking good. Bajyo looked amazing 259 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 2: in his last fight. Uh No, So Dina Mabov knocks 260 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 2: out easy bro in so many in so many worlds, 261 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: a maba of knocking out Izzy at a sign as 262 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 2: he did, that would have been enough. It was over. 263 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: He would have fought with the belt based on just 264 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: that accomplishment, based on just beating a guy like Edisanya. 265 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 2: But now he has to go and fight Bajallio and 266 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 2: it reneered. The Ritter beat another champion and Robert Whitaker, 267 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 2: but instead he draws Fluffy Hernandez. It's like, I don't 268 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 2: know how to determine or separate these guys, Dan, because 269 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: it seems like every single guy has a valid case. 270 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 3: They all do have a valid case. 271 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: But that's when you gotta have a holy shit moment, 272 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: because the holy shit moment will push you over the 273 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: edge and force Dana's hand to give you that title shot. 274 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: The problem with Kyle Bojio this weekend is Ima Wolf 275 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: is a difficult guy to do that against. He's so patient, 276 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: he's so conservative that Bohio's gonna have a very difficult 277 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: time looking good against. And that's gonna be his biggest 278 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: issue because even though with a win he might deserve 279 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 1: a shot Bojo's, Bohio's gonna have a hard time forcing 280 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: the public to see that because his performance might not 281 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: be a stellar. 282 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 2: And the problem and the real problem is the Ritter 283 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: and Fluffy Hernandez have like car crashes. 284 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 4: It's gonna look a certain way. Man, I'm happy and 285 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 4: and Dean, it's second A lot of times you want 286 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 4: to be second because then you know what you gotta do. 287 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: Already, absolutely going second because you know what you and 288 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: for Fluffy, because Fluffy has this style man that's so 289 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: born Bernard that people love to watch. If he goes 290 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: out there and puts on that pace against the Rittor 291 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: and can finish the Rittter or just just maul him 292 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: like that, oh my god, it's gonna look really good. 293 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 3: Man. He's gonna get a title shot. 294 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 2: If he drowns Rainier the Ridder in the way that 295 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: he did. The LEDs is over. There's no way you 296 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 2: could say that he doesn't deserve a title shot. But 297 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 2: also a big moment because I truly believe that these 298 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: guys are as evenly matched as any four middleweights that 299 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: we have. Trying to fight a champion who is just 300 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: ascended to the title, but a it looks like he 301 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 2: can be dominant for a long time. But when you 302 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: look at the lines, Dean, while we feel it's a 303 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: very close fight, the odds makers don't really believe it 304 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: to be. I mean, Fluffy is minus two thirty versus 305 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: the Ritdter, Bohoalio's minus won forty against the mav Off, 306 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: who's only plus one oh five. But the odds makers 307 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 2: don't think it's as close as you and I do. 308 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 2: They feel strongly that Bohaalo is gonna win. But they 309 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: feel even more strongly than Fluffy gets through near de 310 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: rittter Broer De Ridder can't get no respect. 311 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: And he should be getting some respect because he's dangerous 312 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: man and he has a skill set to compete with 313 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: anybody just. 314 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 3: Because of his grappling. 315 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: He can always rely on his grappling and he doesn't 316 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: have to be on top to be effective. So a 317 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: guy like that, man who's skilled everywhere he needs, he 318 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: needs to get a little bit more respect from everybody. 319 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: But I mean, what happens to Drake is du plus 320 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 2: c now because he lost that belt. He falls right 321 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: back into a shark's take of guys that are just waiting, 322 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: hungry and willing to try to become world champion. It's 323 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 2: a it's dangerous waters at middleweight right now, and uh, 324 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 2: you really can't slip up? All right, Dino, sign for 325 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 2: my final thought, guys, De's right, Dean is right. Dean's 326 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: right that he probably should have had a conversation with 327 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 2: Tyron Woodley, And Dean's right, that by saying that I 328 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 2: should have a conversation with my friend Luke Rockhole or 329 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: anybody that's watching their friends take these fights that aren't 330 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: beneficial to them outside of financial When you are a 331 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: champion or a person at water UFC title, there is 332 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 2: so many ways for you to make money. There are 333 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 2: ways to do it without stepping inside of a boxing ring, 334 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: without stepping inside of a h I mean a bare 335 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: knuckle boxing fight. So crazy Frankie Edgar is about to 336 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: do it. Frankie Edgar is about to fight in bare 337 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: knuckle boxing. I like Frankie. I don't know that that's 338 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: the greatest idea, So hopefully someone close to them goes 339 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 2: frank I don't know if this is the fight or 340 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 2: this is the move, because ultimately we are watching great 341 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 2: champions from a long time pass and from a long 342 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: history of great champions go out there and fight in 343 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 2: a way that's not great for them. And I don't 344 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 2: love the visual. Hey they say all great champions go 345 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: out on their back, but they don't need to go 346 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: out like that. What I saw with Luke last week 347 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 2: and was terrible. I hope that he doesn't go out 348 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 2: there and fight anymore. Do some grappling. He's a tremendous grappler. 349 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 2: You can get paid doing that. Find alternatives, Guys, you 350 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 2: don't have to fight forever. We have our time and 351 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 2: then the time passes. They always say for all the 352 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: time is undefeated. That's never being proved more true than 353 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 2: what we are seeing lately with Anderson Silver losing to 354 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: Paul and Luke rock Holden, Darren Till and Tyren Woodley 355 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: and Jake Paul and so many others. The list goes 356 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 2: on and on. So if you're a friend of a 357 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 2: guy that was a great fight, that's thinking about doing 358 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 2: something you don't agree with, don't hold your tongue. Say 359 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 2: it because Dean and I did when we both regret 360 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: that we didn't speak up sooner. Guys, Dan, thanks again 361 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 2: bro for joining. I appreciate you. Every week we do 362 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 2: three wrongs. You're the man boy, hey, Art of the day? 363 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 2: You really you can't. You really didn't come off fight 364 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: to day. You weren't trying to get with this dude. 365 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 2: I ain't trying to go by this dude. Man, forget 366 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 2: that you're the man Dan. Until next time. Guys like subscribe, 367 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: Tell your friends to tell their friends Vice's got a YouTube. 368 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 2: No no, no, I'm doing things like three wrongs and Luis. 369 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: Stay off the damn camera, bro, wait your turn until 370 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 2: next time. Fece, that's Louise, guys, that's the guy I'm 371 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:47,719 Speaker 2: always screaming at.