1 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: Jim Goldman, the agent in charge of the rape that 2 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: removed Ilam from his Miami family home, now sat with 3 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: a young boy in a leer jet. The two were 4 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: on the way to reunite Alan with his father. As 5 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: they flew over two hours to the DC area, the 6 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: sun rose. Once they landed, Alien's father, Emil Gonzalez, came 7 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: onto the lear jet. 8 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: I handed only into mister Gonzales and both of them. 9 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: If anybody ever thought that this was staged or artificial, 10 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: they're so wrong, because I was sitting right there and 11 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: both of them were in tears, hugging each other, and 12 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: they embraced what seemed like a long time. There was 13 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: truly a sincere reunion. My son was exactly the same 14 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: age as Allien at the time, so I looked at 15 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: this is how happy would I be if somebody put 16 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: my child in my arms. 17 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: This scene of Elian and his father embrace him for 18 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: a long time reminded me of something I. 19 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 3: Read about them. 20 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: When Elea lived in Cuba, he split his time between 21 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: his mom and dad, and during their drop offs, his 22 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: father and him had a special goodbye ritual. Ellen and 23 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: his dad would give each other a racitos little hugs 24 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: over and over again. One friend said sometimes their goodbyes 25 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: would take ten minutes. As an adult, Elean said in 26 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: an interview with Cuban Press Dad and Memorial Mafelisa Kengo 27 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: and Momentum Contra Momental Bad he speaks with emotion in 28 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: his voice, saying that reuniting with his dad was one 29 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: of the happiest moments of his life. Reunions are powerful, 30 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: in particular for Cuban families who have been torn apart 31 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: by theopolitics. Our reunion is the first step in treating 32 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: the wound. It stops the bleeding. But the Gonzales family 33 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: had a new woe to tend to Mary LASiS and 34 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: the Miami relatives wearing despair after Elean was taken from them, 35 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: and the Gonzalezes of Miami were determined to get him back. 36 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 4: And I demand, and I think I have the rights 37 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 4: to see this boy, because I've taken care of this 38 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 4: boy for five months when the father wasn't here for him. 39 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: Most too want exiles in Miami agreed with Mary Leasis. 40 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 3: The city was a blaze. 41 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 5: This is the last thing I can assure you that 42 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 5: the Cuban American leadership in this community wanted to see 43 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 5: the streets literally burning now another tire. 44 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 6: Miami was all in mourning for Ilian. They were just 45 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 6: I think they were shocked. They had expected the raid 46 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 6: to happen, but were shocked when it happened. They were saddened. 47 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 6: I think people felt powerless because they hadn't been able 48 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 6: to stop it. 49 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: Miami. Two ones could not stop the government from taking 50 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: it Yan, but they could show their anger by protesting. 51 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:42,839 Speaker 7: Dear gas. 52 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 8: Tear gas. 53 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 4: Johnny, come back to us, Chazz right now, Chazz, right now, Chaz, 54 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 4: come back to us, right now. 55 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: Chet And the future of Illana and his father was 56 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: a seal in the hands of the US legal system. 57 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 9: Look like soldiers are firing tear gas. 58 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: Later, Minus and this is chess Peace. The Elean Gonzalez 59 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: Story a production of Duda Studios in partnership with Iheartsmichael. 60 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 3: Durdah podcast Network. 61 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: The day after the raid, the Gonzalezes of Miami called 62 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: a news conference. 63 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 10: What was done in my house. 64 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 4: Was the worst thing that could have happened to a family. 65 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: Twenty one year old Mary Lezy Gonzalez spoke alongside her 66 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: family and Donato Dalrymple, the man who rescued Leannatzea. She 67 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: reminded the cameras that it had been heard to pick 68 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: Elean up from the hospital. She spoke and answered the 69 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: press questions for over thirty minutes. 70 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 3: She was distressed, but determined his. 71 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 11: Father could have done this in a very peaceful way. 72 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 11: We've always wanted to see him. My doors have always 73 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 11: been opened to everybody. 74 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: She stood surrounded by the press holding the iconic photo 75 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: from the raid, Elianne screaming, crying in Donato's arms, with 76 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: an agent pointing a gun in their direction. Mary Leacy's 77 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: accused her cousin, Juan Miuel, for having a role in 78 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: the violence that breached her home, rieping Elean away from her. 79 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 11: And where is he that he couldn't prevent this and 80 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 11: that he hasn't said anything about this? Is this a 81 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 11: father that cares for the best entest of a child? 82 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: And then there was a moment where she turned to 83 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: the topic of elian. 84 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 10: All I ask is. 85 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 11: I need to see Elean and the conditions that they 86 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 11: took this boy out of my house. 87 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 10: I know he's not okay. 88 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: Marie Lesey's tone changed when she spoke about Elean. 89 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 10: She was vulnerable and I know this boy needs to 90 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 10: see me too. 91 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: In a twenty seventeen Ciena documentary, Eleann spoke about Mary 92 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: Lacy's pain. 93 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 3: One ofka Mary. 94 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: Lease Mary Leasy's doesn't deserve my rage, he said, looking 95 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: towards the camera. 96 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 11: Da Karin. 97 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 3: As a moment, she tried to. 98 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: Give me the care I needed at that moment. It 99 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: is that care that we all witnessed back then, Mary 100 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: Lacy's and Eleane smiling together, hugging, seemingly happy. 101 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 3: She is Malaysia. 102 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: She was just a young girl, a young girl at 103 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: a news conference after one of the most dramatic days 104 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: of her life. As she went on, Mary Lecy's began 105 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: to say things that to some people diminished her credibility. 106 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 11: And the picture that they show with the father. 107 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 10: That is not Alean. 108 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: She spoke about a widely published photo of Eleane and 109 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: Ramiel back together. In the photo, Elean is with his dad, 110 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: his step mom, and his younger brother. Eleanne is in 111 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: his dad's arms, the boy's hand around his father's neck, 112 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: both of them smiling. Mary Lacy's questioned if it was 113 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: really Alien in the photo, that hair. 114 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 11: Is not Alan's. I'm the one that cuts Alian's hair 115 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 11: and three days before I had given him a haircut. 116 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: To me, this reveals something deeper about Mary Lacy's her 117 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: despair at this moment. We only know Mary Lacy's from 118 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: this face in her life, her as a young twenty 119 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: one year old. Imagine if you were forever known and 120 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: judged for how you reacted to one of the most 121 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: agonizing moments in your life. I don't blame Mary Leasy's 122 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: for choosing to live a private life after this saga. 123 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: There is something powerful in being the focal point of 124 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: one of the first viral stories and then saying this 125 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: is my boundary and I will never cross it again. 126 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 3: I respect that. 127 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: For Eleian, the legal battle was not over yet, even 128 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: though he was fineinally with his dad, because before the raid, 129 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: the Miami family had. 130 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 5: Filed a request for an injunction against irons, and the 131 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 5: injunction would basically say he cannot be removed from the 132 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 5: United States so long as this appeal is pending. 133 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: Kendall Coffee, one of the family's lead attorneys. As a 134 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: Lion's case continued to move through the courts, he was 135 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: not allowed to leave the country, which meant to Lean 136 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: and his dad were living in the US for now 137 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: at least, and outside of the court rooms in Florida, people. 138 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 2: Lit the city on fire. Here in Miami, they were 139 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 2: rioting and they were breaking things, and they were destroying 140 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 2: things in the Miami police had to come out. 141 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 11: This is abuse, this is abused to the Cuman. 142 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 12: I'm ashamed to be American. 143 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 10: I'm a shame to be an American city. Let me 144 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 10: ask you this, what do you think will happen now? 145 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 11: Can will you express your anger? 146 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: And nobody can tell. 147 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 10: Nobody can tell what's gonna happen in the future. 148 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 13: Nobody. 149 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 6: At this point, it felt like Miami was all in 150 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 6: mourning for Elian. 151 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 14: There was a huge protest march down Kyoto and it 152 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 14: was substantial, one of these few times where you actually 153 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 14: have thousands of. 154 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: People Guillermo Grenier Cuban American sociologist. But the government was 155 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: not the only one getting criticized. There were also other 156 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: Americans who spoke out against the Q and exiled community 157 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: in Miami. 158 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 14: And there was a counter demonstration. If you want to 159 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 14: look at it that way, it wasn't so much against Eleon, 160 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 14: but it was to support Janet Reno and then to 161 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 14: say that Eleon should go. 162 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: Back to the Dad over eighty percent of Cuban Americans, 163 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: though the Elian case left a black mark on the 164 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: reputation in the country according to a later poll, perhaps 165 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: because after the raid, they witnessed a new group of 166 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: people taken to the streets in Miami. 167 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 14: It was a midley crew of people that were trying 168 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 14: to express their opinions about Eleon, about immigration, about the 169 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 14: Democratic Party, the Republican Party. You had good old boys 170 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 14: and pickup trucks with Confederate flags driving down the street 171 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 14: with signs saying send them all. 172 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 8: Back, we won't larn it back now. 173 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 14: So you had a kind of a counter demonstration that 174 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 14: was against the immigrant agenda of Miami Day Count, which 175 00:11:59,200 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 14: is dominantly Cuban. 176 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: As Miami burned, Joe Garcia was called to lead the 177 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: Cuban American National Foundation. 178 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 15: Sometimes you can be right about something and people don't 179 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 15: agree with you, but you still have a responsibility as 180 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 15: a leader to protect your people from the loss. 181 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: He was tasked with damage control because things were not 182 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 1: looking good for the exiled community. 183 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 3: When you say that we lost, you mean you lost 184 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: the narrative or the legal case, or both. 185 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 2: We were losing both right. At that point, we were 186 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 2: losing both. 187 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: In the aftermath of the raid, the leader of this 188 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: powerful Cuban American organization admitted they were losing the narrative. 189 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: The Cuban community was no longer seeing just as allies 190 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: of the US pushing for democracy on our homeland. There 191 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: was also a new perception about US Cubans as troublemaker immigrants, 192 00:12:52,720 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: ungrateful to the US and disrespectful to US law. As 193 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: a legal case continued, Gregory Craig, j Emiel's lawyer, stepped 194 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 1: outside the chore room to speak with the press. It 195 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: was hard to hear him over the protest and outrage 196 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: from the Cuban American community. 197 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 16: The issue as whether a remote relative over the attractions 198 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 16: of a sick and loving father n forced the Irons 199 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 16: to accept and process in the fire application of crime, 200 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 16: which had read and told, considerably destroyed Ron Miguel's the 201 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 16: rental rights and dismantled his family, and. 202 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 3: Then Emiel received some good news. 203 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: The court sided with the Irons, saying that only Jamiel 204 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: had authority to speak for his son. In a press 205 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: conference after the ruling, Ramiel seemed more relaxed and confident. 206 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 17: Yoga mobim heco. 207 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: In the course decision, he said, as his father, I 208 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: am the one who can speak for my son. 209 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 9: Made. 210 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 17: Minaraila in necessiety, I mean want the profumia. 211 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: I love him so much and I really want all 212 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: of this to be over so that we can return 213 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: to our home with my son and all my family, 214 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: and for this not to take any longer. Yet, Jamiel 215 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: and Elan could still not leave. The injunction petitioned by 216 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: the Miami family lawyers was still in place parrying Elian 217 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: and his dad's departure. Attorney General Areno gave her own 218 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: press conference after the ruling. 219 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 12: I am hopeful that this matter will soon reach a 220 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 12: final resolution so that Alian, his father, and the family 221 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 12: may resume their lives away from the scrutiny of the 222 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 12: media and the uncertainty that the legal battle has caused 223 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 12: for his entire family. 224 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 3: And two weeks later, the. 225 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: Family tries to get the full court of. 226 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: Appeals Bernie Permotter, family law professor who you have heard 227 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: throughout the series. A week later, the federal appeals courts 228 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: declined to hear the case. 229 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 12: Furder. 230 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,479 Speaker 1: The lower courts had decided that Elean had no independent 231 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: claim to asylum and only his biological father could speak 232 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: for him. That's when the Miami family had won last. 233 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: Bite at the apple, and that was two petitions the 234 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: Supreme Court. 235 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: The justices had to decide if they would hear the case. 236 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: Kendall Coffee, one of the Miamis family attorneys, was contacted 237 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: by a lawyer whose law firm wanted to help probono 238 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: with the Supreme Court case. 239 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 5: And he had a partner who is also willing to 240 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 5: consider helping. Name Brett Kavanaugh. 241 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 3: Yes, that Brett Kavanah, the now Supreme Court justice. 242 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 9: We're here to determine whether Judge Kavanaugh has demonstrated the impartiality, 243 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 9: the temperament, the even handedness that's needed to serve on 244 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 9: this great high Court of our land. 245 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: In the application to the Supreme Court to consider the 246 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: alien case, Cavanan argued against something called the Chevron doctrine. 247 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: According to this doctrine, if an agency like the ins 248 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: had a policy about children like Elean, the course should 249 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: refer to the agency's reasonable interpretation of that policy. Recently, Cavanaugh, 250 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: as a member of the Supreme Court, voted to overturn 251 00:16:56,200 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: the Chevron doctrine, consistent with what he argued when represents 252 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: sent to Eliance relatives twenty five years ago. It is 253 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: a reminder that the Alien case involved many powerful people. 254 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: Kendall remembers the day of the Supreme Court ruling, waiting 255 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: for the call from Cavana. When the news came in. 256 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: Some of them went to a special place a day 257 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: of the ruling, and. 258 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 5: I can remember to this day because we went to 259 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 5: a chapel, Armita de la Caidad to wait for the news. 260 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 3: Leamita de la Garida. What a place. 261 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: It is located near downtown Miami along the coast, facing 262 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: south towards Cuba. It is one of the most important 263 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: Catholic locations for Cubans in the United States. Inside it 264 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: is decorated with a mural of Cuban heroes and saints, 265 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: including lavign de la Garia Elgore, the Cuban patron saint. 266 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: If someone could make a miracle for the Gonzalezes of Miami, 267 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: it would be Lavin de la Garida. 268 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 3: And so they waited, and I. 269 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 5: Never forget the call. When I've read Kavanaugh called me, 270 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 5: it was the news. Was very, very disappointed. 271 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: After just two days, the highest court in the United 272 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: States returned that decision, declining to hear the case. The 273 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: lower court's decision stood. Only Alien's father could speak for 274 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: his son, and that was pretty much the end of 275 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: the case. 276 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 12: Good evening. 277 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 3: He was here two hundred and seventeen days. 278 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 15: But tonight the legal fight between his father and his 279 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 15: Miami relatives is over, and Elian Gonzalez is on his 280 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 15: way to Havana. 281 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 2: We are happy to go hunt. 282 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: Thank you, Eleana, and his dad would finally be going 283 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: home to Cuba. Jamiel ended his time in the United 284 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: States on a hopeful note. During his final press conference here, 285 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: he talked about the beautiful and brilliant people he met 286 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: in the. 287 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 17: US Supremento the myth amilia. 288 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 14: Eto a. 289 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 18: E we mos device, and that this actually gave him 290 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 18: hope for possible friendship between Cuba and the US in 291 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 18: the future. 292 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 17: Amima amdam amita from my. 293 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: I remember that they were saying he was coming, and 294 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: then you know they were very excited saying at what 295 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: time he was coming, and. 296 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 11: The Honda and George. 297 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: My younger brother Juankey was in Calawasar, Cuba in June 298 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: two thousand, the town outside Havana where he lived with 299 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: my step mom Biby, where I would still visit every 300 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: two weeks after my dad left Cuba. 301 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 5: I remember seeing the plane passing over the house going 302 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 5: to like the International for Emboyeros. 303 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: The plane he saw that June was carrying Elian Gonzalez 304 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: and his father Jamiel, bringing them back to Cuba for 305 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: their heroes welcome. Other Cubans also remember this moment. 306 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 15: I remember being in the living room of my grandparents 307 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 15: and I remember watching the airplane and the father and 308 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 15: the son walking down the airplane. 309 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 7: When we saw jan Miel, a young father and Elian 310 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 7: united was really like wow, yeah, we made it. 311 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 1: Now that he was on that plane landing in Cuba. 312 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: Miami was behind Elian. At the time, Mary Lacy's told 313 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: the press. 314 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 13: I believe that someday and we return here. Oh I 315 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 13: wish I mis luck. This is the way that I 316 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 13: wanted it. And we have to accept that. 317 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: Adelian has not returned to the US and he and 318 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: Mary Lacy's have not seen his shouthers. Years later, she 319 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: said in the Ciena documentary. 320 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 10: Whoever's right or wrong, we're family and we love each other. 321 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: Elemiel carried his son Elian off the flight and they 322 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: were greeted by cheering, elated crowds waving Cuban flags. Elian 323 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 1: remembers his father hugging him as the plane landed. That's 324 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: when Alan saw the rest of his family in Cuba. 325 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 3: Gitar guitar miss When he saw. 326 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: His family, he felt peace to be in Cuba, having 327 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: found his center again, but there was one key figure missing. 328 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: Fiel Castro reportedly did not want to create the media 329 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: frenzy like he has seen in the United States, and 330 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: he was worried about what the Lean had been told 331 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: about him. So Castro did not show up to greet 332 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: the Lean, postponing their introduction. Eventually, Elean would get to 333 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: go home to his house in Carolinas. He would no 334 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 1: longer be away from his father again. In two thousand 335 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: and seven, when my mom was no longer working for 336 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 1: the Quban government as an executive for the Quban Flag Airline, 337 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: I was finally able to travel to Miami and reunite 338 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: with my dad. I remember the excitement, the curiosity will 339 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: my dad and I reconnect after many years? Will we 340 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: be strangers? I recently asked my dad if he remembered 341 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 1: when we finally reunited. 342 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 3: As a premier partamento. 343 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: Miami, bib medihoto miconti and to come up. I spent 344 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: the night. I te in my dad's apartment and slept 345 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: in his bath like I did when I was a child. 346 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 3: We held hands the whole night too. 347 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: This is the first time I have asked my dad 348 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 1: how he remembers our reunion. He broke down in tears. 349 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 12: Me. 350 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 3: But if we only do it was so beautiful, he 351 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 3: told me. Unlike me, my dad had no fears about 352 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 3: a reunion. 353 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 18: Physical. 354 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: Our reunion just brought us back together physically, he says. 355 00:24:55,560 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 11: Okay, see present, yes, yes, a lessons here, a little. 356 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 3: We were always present in each other's mind. And that's 357 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 3: the essence of everything. 358 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 2: Which it was assumed a care able million hour. 359 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 3: Our look for. 360 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: All that stood between us was earth and water, nothing else, 361 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: my dad told me. But I also know that my 362 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: dad was gone for some of the most difficult and 363 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: happy moments of my life. When I celebrated my King Senira, 364 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: when I started college, when I fell in love for 365 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: the first time, That irreplaceable absence marked me. It made 366 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: me more anxious about change, but braver to confront life's challenges. 367 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: Eleianne spent six months separated from his dad. I spent 368 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: eight years apart from mine. 369 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 3: Kaku on the suada ITHINTI it told tinto. 370 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: My stepmom baby told me every Cuban has a book 371 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: of pain. Everyone is different, but we are all the same. 372 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: To exile and separation is a scar that never fully heals. Yes, 373 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: I carry that scar with me. I imagine Elean also does. 374 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: But I also carry so much more in me. I 375 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: see the deep roots of my dad within me. His 376 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: inheritance is in my devotion to my work, in my 377 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: love for the water that brings me calm and focus, 378 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: in my passionate character, and how small things fulfill me, 379 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: like people hugging in airports, the love of a baby, 380 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: or the sunlight filtering between the trees leaves. My dad 381 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: is still the first person I call when I'm having 382 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: a bad day, and every time, like magic, he takes 383 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: me out of the stress, makes me laugh, pushes me forward. 384 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: Come on, MOONI you can do it, he always says. 385 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: And of course, if my dad thinks I can do something, 386 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: I know I can do it. And sometimes I wonder 387 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 1: what Jamiel says to Elian to help him find his center. 388 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: As Eleane was settling back home in Cuba, the US 389 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: was about to face another political battle in the aftermath 390 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: of the case. 391 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 6: They blamed Clinton, they blamed Jenne Reno, and Gore was 392 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 6: Clinton's vice president. 393 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: As the US holds the twenty twenty four presidential election 394 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: next week, we will take you back to the two 395 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: thousand election when the fate of this country was in 396 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: the hands. 397 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 3: Of Miami voters. And to tell you what happened. 398 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: In the next episode of the story, I will be 399 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: turning the mic over to my producer, you know her, 400 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: Tasha san Noli. 401 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 6: What can da Mastashi Rui Sashi rely come on Manatacha Shikita. 402 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 3: Tasha and Harauelita. 403 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: That is, Tasha reflects on the Liang case with her 404 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: grandma and Miami Cuban about how the exile. 405 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 3: Experience shaped her work Jess Peace. 406 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: The Lean Gonzales Story is a production of Tuo Studios 407 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: in partnership with Iheartsmichael Gura podcast Network. This show is 408 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: written and reported by me Penni Lei Ramidez with Maria Garcia, 409 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: Nicole Rothwell, and Tasha Sandoval. Our editor is Maria Garcia. 410 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: Additional editing by Marlon Bishop. Our senior producer is Nicole Rodwell. 411 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: Our associate producers are Tasha Sandoval and Elisabeth Loental Torres. 412 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: Sound designed by Jacob Rosati with help from Stephanie Lebon 413 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: and our intern is Evelin Fajardo Alvarez. Our senior production 414 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: manager is Jessica Elis, with production supports from Nancy Trujillo, 415 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:13,719 Speaker 1: Francis Poon and Lolimar Marquez. Mixing by Stephanie Levo, Julia 416 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: Caruso and j J Caruvin. 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