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Speaker 1: Well, how are you there? It is Saturday night, late

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Speaker 1: night instant analysis time for all things Mike Tyson versus

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Speaker 1: Roy Jones Junior. It combined one hundred and five years old.

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Speaker 1: We did the celebrity pay per view thing, and you

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Speaker 1: know what, it's pretty damn good. In the end, nobody

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Speaker 1: got hurt. It was entertaining enough. Let's break that thing down.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk Tyson Jones. Let's talk Turkey Hope everybody had

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Speaker 1: a great Thanksgiving weekend. There were so many ways straight

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Speaker 1: up that this fight, this promotion, this pay per view,

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Speaker 1: this everything could have been an absolute shit show. It

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Speaker 1: could have been a waste of your time, a waste

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Speaker 1: of your money, and even worse. And let's not overlook

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Speaker 1: this because it was a giant narrative coming in thanks

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Speaker 1: to the you know, the nervous handholding by the California

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Speaker 1: State Athletic Commission. This could have ended horribly bad health

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Speaker 1: wise for both fighters. In the end, we had a

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Speaker 1: real fun night out of the office, okay, you know,

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Speaker 1: And I want to hit up a couple categories here,

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Speaker 1: from the fight itself to the broadcast itself. Let's get

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Speaker 1: a couple things out of the way up front. It's

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Speaker 1: one of the worst promoted fights. Kevin and I only

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Speaker 1: put the tweet out there from Yahoo and he was

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Speaker 1: right in the history of this sport, Okay, all these

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Speaker 1: inconsistent attempts at getting interviews for big you know, platforms

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Speaker 1: like this to promote this fight and report on it correctly.

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Speaker 1: It was just a real crap show. And you mix

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Speaker 1: that with the uncertainty from the California Stay Athletic Commission,

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Speaker 1: the attempts at this being just a sparring match, just entertainment,

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Speaker 1: going to be the real thing. We're going to bang.

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Speaker 1: And there was a lot, again, a lot of reasons

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Speaker 1: why this could have gone wrong. For as shitty as

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Speaker 1: the promotion was, this broadcast was fun as heck. Shout

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Speaker 1: out to Triller, shout out to what they the promoters

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Speaker 1: locally did with the Staples Center in LA with no

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Speaker 1: fans yet turned it into this fun sound stage entertainment

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Speaker 1: a random ass announcing crew that could have gone horribly more,

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Speaker 1: Ronalo filling in for al Bernsti at the last second.

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Speaker 1: Yet Israel, a lot of Sonia had Sugar Ray Leonard

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Speaker 1: you had the real MVP who was Snoop Dogg, and

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Speaker 1: you have music performances. You had all these things, including

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Speaker 1: an undercard filled with names that fighters that were not

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Speaker 1: the matchmaking delivered, the production was fantastic and I'm not

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Speaker 1: live performance guy when it comes to fight sports. Different

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Speaker 1: promotions in MMA and boxing, Rock Nation and Boxing has

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Speaker 1: tried it. It's never worked. I didn't particularly love for

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Speaker 1: my style of music the artist's choice for this one.

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Speaker 1: Yet for how many times we've seen some crappy ass

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Speaker 1: it was just it was like throwing all this shit

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Speaker 1: Yet when they came out after a fun undercard with

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Speaker 1: be a fun night from all. So the MVP is here,

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Speaker 1: he left behind boxing wise was was disappointing. Yes, he's

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Speaker 1: But as we know, the second half was a shit show,

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Speaker 1: This is a win for Mike Tyson, A huge win

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Speaker 1: also a win for Mike. You didn't get your trademark

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Speaker 1: He'd been a pro up to two years ago. We

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Speaker 1: Roy wasn't in a one shape, but he was. You

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Speaker 1: The power of Mike Tyson completely affected Roy. It was

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Speaker 1: Roy had a bite down and take some big shots.

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Speaker 1: Thought look, he looked hurt three to four times, never

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Speaker 1: one big punch away from it for sure. But the

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Speaker 1: most important part was Mike landed enough power to slip

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Speaker 1: Roy into defensive safety mode, constantly clinching him, constantly circling

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Speaker 1: away and never letting Roy go on the offensive. You

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Speaker 1: could tell from Roy's posture early on. Let me survive

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Speaker 1: this storm, then the tide will turn. In the second half.

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Speaker 1: I'll be the fresher fighter, and I'll do Roy Jones things.

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Speaker 1: There were no Roy Jones things. And that's the biggest

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Speaker 1: shock of the fight that Mike at fifty four, fifteen

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Speaker 1: that ridiculous, stupid sparring pay per view with Corey Sanders,

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Speaker 1: Mike was in phenomenal shape. And as they said on

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Speaker 1: draftic he got sent Maybe it's payback because he didn't

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Speaker 1: deserve at least two of those three Slam Dunk Championships.

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Speaker 1: I'm an old school Slam Dunk Championship head, so I

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Speaker 1: That was violent. So my here's a final take, and

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Speaker 1: it's on Jake Paul. I know he wants Connor and

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Speaker 1: so let's chill out on that. But there might be

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Speaker 1: a middle ground there. The palls make you want to

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Speaker 1: watch them get their ass kicked. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: defend them. They're they're they're whatever, right, but they respect

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Speaker 1: They respect the game. Look, celebrity boxing is is gross. Historically,

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Speaker 1: the Paul brothers kind of respect the game, right, Like

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Speaker 1: Screech versus willis from different strokes, like you know, Minut

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Speaker 1: Bawl against Reg Frigerator Perry. We've seen crappy celebrity boxing.

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Speaker 1: The Paul brothers, whether whether they're fighting KSI or whatever,

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Speaker 1: like they they they take it seriously. This wasn't I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of clenching in Paul Nate Robinson, just

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Speaker 1: Because again we're not talking about real in their prime

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Speaker 1: professional guys. But I'm in on the Paul brothers fighting.

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Speaker 1: I'm not in on necessarily on what de Zonne was

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Speaker 1: doing with like mixing it with real fights. I think

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Speaker 1: it's a separate thing. That's what I would prefer that

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Speaker 1: it's a separate thing that could work. And the Paul

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Speaker 1: guys they take it serious. And you know, Jake Paul

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Speaker 1: looked kind of good. If you're looking at that as

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Speaker 1: a celebrity fight and not a real fight. He's not

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Speaker 1: going to go contend for a cruiserweight or light heavyweight title, Okay,

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Speaker 1: but if he wants to fight other celebrities who are capable,

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Speaker 1: of course we're here for Okay. That's my take at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, A lot more to come

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Speaker 1: on Monday's Morning Combat when Luke Thomas and myself Brian

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Speaker 1: Campbell mix up all these takes. All right, we'll review

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Speaker 1: Tyson Jones, will look back at UFC Fight Night of

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Speaker 1: stuff to talk about, Joe Joyce, Daniel Dubois, a lot,

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Speaker 1: a lot of good stuff to talk about. So all

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Speaker 1: that and then some tall, pale and handsome it is

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Speaker 1: your boy, BC. I hope you've checked out, uh our

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Speaker 1: Morning Combat, doncumentary, the Return to the Studio, a little

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Speaker 1: lot of fun and games. There are bonus Q and

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Speaker 1: a episode from Black Friday, and uh that's about it,

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Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, that's just me. I'm just this like

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Speaker 1: random guy in his basement. All right, I'm half Lithuania

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Speaker 1: and half French Canadian. What do you can do about it? Right? BC?

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Speaker 1: You know what do you want from me? Okay? We

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Speaker 1: gotta I got this, Uh, I got a weird clothes,

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Speaker 1: all right. Uh so that's that's the night on this night,

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Speaker 1: and for uh for Luke Thomas. He's not here, But

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Speaker 1: I am Brian Campbell, and I am the sauce of

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Speaker 1: Morning Combat, and I am signing off, like subscribe. Spread

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Speaker 1: the word. Okay, remember college when you used to spread

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