1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: What's up everybody, DJ? Buck here, Buck, what is going on? 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 2: Man? 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 3: Not too much, DJ. We are on it, man. We're 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 3: down to game week. Preseason games have kicked off with 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame game, but now we get a 7 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 3: chance to see the rest of the National Football League 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 3: kind of kick off and check out some of the 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 3: rookies and some of the players and some of the storylines. 10 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. 11 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: We had a chance to do the pre and post 12 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: for the Hall of Fame or go out. No, I 13 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: was on pre and post Hall of Fame. Then we 14 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: did the Top one hundred together. I knew, I've just 15 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: seen you. We just did something together. But I want 16 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 1: to start with the top one hundred thing, and then 17 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: we're going to get to I've got five five lessons 18 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: you can learn from training camp, I'm as sure, and 19 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: then get your thoughts on them. But first of all, Buck, 20 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: top one hundred. We said it when we found out 21 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: the list before we did the show, that this is 22 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: going to cause a firestorm with the way this thing 23 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: shook out. 24 00:00:53,760 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: Sure enough it did. I thought you very, very very articulately. 25 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: Laid out as best you could the defense of Patrick 26 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: Mahomes being number four based off of solely the play 27 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: last year, I had the easy assignment of taking the 28 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: popular opinion of that, you know, he should be the 29 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: number one. 30 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: Player, but I don't want it. We did that. If 31 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: you've missed that, you can check that out. 32 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: But to me, I want to get your thoughts on 33 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: just what it says about Tyreek Hill that he's that 34 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: respected by all of his league mates to be number one. 35 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 3: You know, It's funny because that was more the focus 36 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 3: point for me, Like just the respect that the league 37 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 3: has for Tyreek Hill DJ, you know, in preparing advanced 38 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 3: scouting reports, and I know from just kind of like 39 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: taking those reports and just having defensive coaches talk like 40 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 3: the number one thing that you do when you begin 41 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: to talk about the other team, before you talk about 42 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 3: scheme or whatever, who's the guy, who's the guy that 43 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 3: we have to stop, who do we have to like, 44 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 3: who's going to command double teams? Who are the ones 45 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 3: that we got to eliminate or we have no chance 46 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 3: of winning the fact that he's ranked number one, to me, 47 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: just tells you how much respect defensive coordinators give him 48 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 3: in those meetings. How much respect that players have for 49 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: him when they line. 50 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 4: Up opposite him in a league with a lot of 51 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 4: bravado like where people are always acting like there's something 52 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 4: maybe that they're not for them to give him his 53 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 4: flowers when they say, hey, man, he's the best, like 54 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 4: he's the one that we worry about. 55 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 3: To me, I think is more of a testament to 56 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: his talent. It's more so than a snub to Pat 57 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 3: Mahomes or anybody else. 58 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: I want to go back to the days before you 59 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: graduated as a Braves fan and switch. Do you remember 60 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: the commercial? I think it was probably the eighties maybe, 61 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: but no, it nould have been. It would been the 62 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: early nineties. 63 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 2: I believe. Remember the Chicks Dig the Long Ball commercial 64 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 2: for sure? 65 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, ye Adds and Glavin doing that was a great 66 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: If you haven't seen it, it's on YouTube. 67 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 2: I'm sure it is. 68 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: You have to go check it out. But it's not 69 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: just Chicks Dig the long Ball. Everybody digs the long ball, buck. 70 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you're a fan or a player. 71 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: You want to sit ball over the fence in baseball, 72 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: and you want to see big plays on the football field. 73 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: And I think that to me is why Tyreek Hill 74 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: is probably your favorite player's favorite player. 75 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 3: Well, because the thing that Tyreek Hill does, Tyreek Hill 76 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 3: can mess up. He can erase all the mistakes that 77 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: you have offensively for play call don't have protection, hey man, 78 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: just get a ball number ten and get out the way. 79 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 3: He has that kind of ability. And you said it 80 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 3: on the show. And it's only one other guy that 81 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 3: I've seen that is able to do what Tyreek Hill does, 82 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 3: but he did it in a different way. I remember 83 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 3: watching Steve Smith, and it's rare that someone is fast 84 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 3: vertically but also has the ability to stop and explode horizontally. Normally, 85 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: you get on the assembly line, you only get one 86 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: of the other. Yeah, get a I get this line 87 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 3: or that line. 88 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: You get in both one. 89 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, But like his ability to like stop, start, change 90 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 3: directions and get right back to full speed is uncommon. So, 91 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: for instance, most of the time your wide receivers that 92 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: are vertical playmakers would be like to take again type right. 93 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 3: They can run fast, but they don't have the idiot 94 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: suddenness and quickness to kind of change and do that 95 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 3: other stuff. Or you have someone that is cat quick, 96 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: but they don't have the burst when they get in 97 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: space and they separate. Yveryk. Hill has all of it. 98 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 3: And I will say this, like what I've learned some 99 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 3: of the stuff that a number one receiver can be taught. 100 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: Because Tyreek Hill was more of a running back and 101 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: returner in college. He gets to Kansas City, he's a returner, 102 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: and Andy Reid and those guys made him a number 103 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 3: one receiver. He's taken the baton and carried it farther 104 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 3: than anyone can imagine. But it's uncommon for a guy 105 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 3: with his skill set to be able to be a 106 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 3: true number one receiver. 107 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's again, it's rare. I know again, people 108 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: just man looking for fights on social media. I don't 109 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: get it. But the pushback because I guess in the 110 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: In the little clip that got posted, we talked about 111 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: the fact that look, he not only can get you 112 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: over the top, but you can throw him a little one. 113 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: He can make it a big play. And somebody was like, 114 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: he is you haven't watched them play. It's all he's 115 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: all vertical stuff, like it's not underneath he gets and 116 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, all right, hold up, pff ultimate, 117 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: let me pull up the stats. Yards after catch, Tyreek 118 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: Hill six hundred and sixty six yards, fourth most in 119 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: the league. 120 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 2: And he's like, but he had more yards that weren't. 121 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm dying. I don't know what I do 122 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: know if we're waiting into those waters. Buck shame when 123 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: you get into this stuff. But then I pulled the 124 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: parachute early, but I still shouldn't have jumped out of 125 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: the plane. 126 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: Well, the other thing, and what I want people to 127 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 3: understand is the entire reason that you can create the 128 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 3: new motion that the Miami Dowkins created, that's Tyreek Kill motion. 129 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 3: That is to get Tyreek Hill running out so you 130 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: can go up and come back across on the move, 131 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 3: like all of those things that they were doing, those 132 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 3: dagger routs and those concepts where he's flying. Is to 133 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: give him a running start to be able to come 134 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 3: across and run away from people so when he catches 135 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 3: it he can go. And even going back to Kansas City, 136 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 3: how many times do we see Kansas City whip people 137 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 3: with deep over rolls where Tyreek Hill is just on 138 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 3: a dead sprint on a diag across the field. Part 139 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 3: of what you want to use speed is not only 140 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 3: just going straight down the field vertically it is horizontally 141 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 3: because you create separation. To me, it's an easy one. 142 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 3: I think Tyreek Hill being number one certainly is a 143 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 3: testament to that. But I also think the respect that 144 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 3: people have for Christian McCaffrey when we talk about running 145 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 3: backs and then being a dying breed, and the devaluation 146 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: the fact that he was ranked number three, and I 147 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 3: would say that if it was going to be a 148 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: non quarterback, I feel like CMC should have been number 149 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 3: one given the fact he had over two thousand scrimming jars, 150 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 3: he had twenty one touchdowns. Just the way that he 151 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 3: impacts the game. To me, that is the offensive weapon 152 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 3: that you're scared of when you're defensive coordinated because he 153 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: can touch it every play, but he can touch it 154 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 3: in variety of ways. 155 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's OW not RB. You said it offensive weapon. 156 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: That should be the that should be the letters next 157 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: to his name. It shouldn't be RB because he does 158 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: so much more than that. So I think that I 159 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: think you're right. It speaks to that. 160 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: Also, you know, look Lamar being ahead of Mahomes. 161 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: I know that's been like a popular show topic for 162 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: everybody that does NFL media stuff right now is said, okay, 163 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: once again, like Mahomes gets slighted, Lamar get's ranked ahead 164 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: of him. Lamar's got these MVPs that people, you know, 165 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: feel like, Okay, well he's not better than ma Homes, 166 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: so why does he get those MVPs. But there is 167 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: it is funny that Lamar someone who does have two MVPs. 168 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: There's still a lot of doubt. There's still a lot 169 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: of doubters out there. And look it's because I'm sure 170 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: that they haven't, you know, gone as far as they 171 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: would have hoped in the postseason. But I think the 172 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: people inside the league appreciate how good he is. 173 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think some of that DJ You know how 174 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 3: this is like people still hold on to whatever the 175 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 3: draft grades were, and so you're still waiting for him 176 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 3: to fall off the cliff or now live up to it. 177 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 3: Here's what we can say, whatever you thought about Lamar Jackson, 178 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 3: it was a hit for the Baltimore Ravens in the 179 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 3: first round, two MVPs, a number of playoff appearances. He's 180 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 3: exceeded with the expectations word of being the thirty second 181 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 3: overall pick. Now, is there some more meat on the bone. Absolutely, 182 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 3: he certainly could play better. He needs to play better 183 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: in the postseason just to be in that rarefied air. 184 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 3: But man, when you are two time MVP, you're already 185 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 3: elite and no matter what people say, because I would 186 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 3: say last year was a tricky year because the numbers 187 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 3: for all of the contenders for the award, they weren't 188 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 3: like eye popping, right, So when you see Pat Mahomes 189 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: one year win the MVP with fifty, it's hard to say. 190 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 3: Twenty six is like, oh okay, yeah. 191 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: I get you the award, Yeah right, you know, Or 192 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: when you've. 193 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 3: Seen Lamar Jackson do what he did earlier with thirty 194 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 3: three and almost a thousand yards rushing and all that 195 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 3: other stuff, it was just a different year. But I 196 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 3: will say for the look, man, normally, the MVP typically 197 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 3: goes to the quarterback of the winning his team, And 198 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: for the all of the regular season, the Baltimore Ravens 199 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 3: dominated people and you could point to a handful of 200 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 3: games where Lamar Jackson led them to victories and so 201 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 3: that's why it put it up there. Yeah, but I 202 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 3: think the comera between Lamar Jackson and Pat Mahomes is 203 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 3: going to be interesting. Because I think from a pure 204 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 3: quarterback standpoint, Look, Pat Mahomes certainly gets denied in that 205 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 3: regard when you factor in what Lamar Jackson does as 206 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 3: a runner, even though I say he's a different player 207 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 3: than he was two three years ago as a runner. Yeah, 208 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 3: we've never really seen guys like the new wave of 209 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 3: quarterbacks that we're evaluating. Lamar Jackson is a new wave quarterback. 210 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 3: And the way that we have to kind of like 211 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 3: compile the data and the stats is different than we've 212 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 3: ever had before because it used to always be passing 213 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 3: number of passing touchdowns. Now you're having to have more 214 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 3: conversations about total yards and total touchdowns responsible for It's 215 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 3: just a different way of looking at the position. 216 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 217 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: Look, which again is going to get me to transition 218 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: this topic, Buck, because it might be wide to me 219 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: the most anticipated debut of anybody in the NFL this 220 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: coming season, and that includes the number one overall pick, 221 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: KAYLEB Williams, who I had as a top player in 222 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: the draft. 223 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: I think as well. We love Caleb. 224 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm telling you just seeing how quickly Lamar kind of 225 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: took over in this league when he got out on 226 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: the field, how much Jaden Daniels is going to use 227 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: his legs to go along with what he can do 228 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: as someone who I think we will both agrees more 229 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: advanced as a passer coming into the league than Lamar was. 230 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: That's why that, to me is the most anticipated debut, 231 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: whether it comes here in the first week of the preseason, 232 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: the last week of the preseason, or the opening of 233 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: the regular season, I can I'm fascinated to see how 234 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: he translates to the next level. 235 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 3: So is that the fascination is not only just about 236 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 3: like his legs and those things. But I don't know 237 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 3: if you've heard the comments or the commentary coming out 238 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 3: of Washington's facility, dan Quinn talking about how good, how 239 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 3: great he's been with a regression and how there's one 240 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 3: thing about having the talent and throwing, it's another thing 241 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 3: about playing the position, and everyone in the building is 242 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 3: talking about how he's playing the position a high level. 243 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 3: Early look, Kayler Williams deserved to be the number one, 244 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 3: but there was a lot of conversation about Jayden Daniels 245 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 3: and what he could do in the league. And Jayden 246 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 3: Daniels is also helped by the fact that he had 247 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 3: fifty five stars in his career, laid in two different systems, 248 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 3: play for two different style coaches, so some of the 249 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 3: acclamation period that most Ricky's have to endure, he's already 250 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 3: had to do that because he's already had to learn 251 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 3: on the fly and adapt an adjust and looking. We 252 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: talked about virtual reality and we talked about the advantage 253 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 3: that it gave him at the LSU and how he's 254 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 3: taking that same approach to the pros. And we're hearing 255 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 3: the conversation. DJ is going to start a firestorm because 256 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 3: if he hits the ground running, thirty two teams in 257 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 3: the National Football League will be on the VR thing 258 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 3: the Virtual Reality team to get their quarterbacks ready to play. 259 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, Jack better have his phone ready. 260 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: Our buddy Jack Broochie better have that phone ready because 261 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: they're gonna come calling. 262 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 2: All right, let's take a quick break book. 263 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: I've got five things i want to get to, so 264 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: five less I'm going to remind people lessons that you know, 265 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: but i want to remind everybody that's listening or watching 266 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: about five lessons as we as we get through training camp. 267 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: We'll get to that right after this, All. 268 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: Right, Buck, five lessons yourateer roll is doing it. Okay, 269 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: let's start first of all here the importance of offensive 270 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: line depth. When you look at the offseason and you 271 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: look at preseason magazines and you hear preview shows, and 272 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: they go, this is how we rank the offensive line. 273 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 2: It's left to right tackle. These are our five guys. 274 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 3: This is that. 275 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: Just look at the training camp reports, Buck, I mean, 276 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: missing two guys, missing three guys. 277 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 2: Oh, we just had a first round pick. I hasn't 278 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: got out there. Oh you better have. 279 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's why the Eagles have been in my opinion, 280 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: why the Eagles have been so good for so long. 281 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: They've been eight to nine to ten deep along the 282 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: offensive line because you're not running the same five out there. 283 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: Maybe one or two teams will get fortunate enough to 284 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: do that, but man, this is a reminder every training 285 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: camp that, man, you better have you better have some 286 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: depth along the offensive line. 287 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, you better have depth, and you better have a 288 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 3: way of getting your team to the starting line week one. 289 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 3: You better have an approach that matches what you want 290 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 3: to get done with that offensive line. We can talk 291 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 3: about physicality and hey, we're going to put people in 292 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 3: body bags and we don't have a physical training camp 293 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 3: in those things. But it does you no good if 294 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 3: you don't get your guys to the starting point and 295 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 3: dj the way that you already are talking about two 296 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 3: and three guys missing and the number of injuries that 297 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 3: we're having. Look, it only is about the depth that 298 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 3: you have. It's to approach and what is your approach 299 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 3: going to be when it comes to building the depth 300 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 3: of your offensive line, but also making sure that your 301 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 3: team is ready to go. To me, it's just scary 302 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 3: because every time we talk about having live peers or 303 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 3: we're gonna have like a mini scrimmage, or we're gonna 304 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 3: be a physical team and whatever. You want that, but 305 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 3: you kind of want it with a caveat. Hey, let's 306 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 3: go live and let's be physical and all that, but 307 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 3: let's make sure we have our guys really to play, 308 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 3: because you don't want to start behind the eight ball 309 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 3: before the season even starts. 310 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: Also the importance of just cross training your guys at 311 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: other positions too. We always talk about it during the year. Hey, 312 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: whatever you got I do to get your best five 313 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: out there on the field. Having guys that can swing left, tackle, 314 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: right tackle, inside, outside, can play all three interior spots 315 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: like that's valuable, man, because it is coming and you're 316 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: gonna have guys not even make it to the starting blocks. 317 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: You know, you talk about worry about guys getting hurt 318 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: during the year. There's gonna be a bunch of these 319 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: teams that aren't whole up front once we get to 320 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: week one, so you better have some depth. So that's 321 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: that's number one less number two lesson when you're looking 322 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: at all these training camp reports, a friendly reminder, the 323 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: defense is always one thousand percent of the time ahead 324 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: of the offense at this point in time, So don't 325 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: overreact on either side of it. Don't think you've got 326 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: the eighty five Bears defense on one side, and don't 327 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: think you're not going to score a point all season long. 328 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: On offense, it's always like this. It's been like this 329 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: since they first kicked this football off Yeah. 330 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 3: Because a lot of defensive stuff is reactionary and dependent 331 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: upon what the installation calendar has been in training camp, 332 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 3: and you may be blistening, you may be heating people 333 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 3: up more, you may be attacking before the offense is 334 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 3: really ready to go through those things. Because remember the 335 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 3: physical part is the last part of camp, and the 336 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 3: offensive line hasn't been introduced to that, so your running 337 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 3: game looks a little sluggish. You can't really get the 338 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 3: pass protection because you went six months without really putting 339 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 3: bodies on other bodies. The defense is always going to 340 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 3: be a headed offense. What you hope is that the 341 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 3: gap closes quickly and you end up having bred competitive 342 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 3: battles when to ones go against each other. 343 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 2: No doubt. 344 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: Number three on the list said, we've been on this 345 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: train for a while. Buck joint practice over the preseason. 346 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: So if you want to gauge for how your team's doing, 347 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: pay attention to these joint practices, pay attention to who's 348 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: dominating what against who. That is going to give you 349 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: a little bit better feel of what you have as 350 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: a team as opposed to the preseason, which we're just 351 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: we're flat out. We're just not seeing a lot of dudes. 352 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: It's not only simple schemes and all that kind of stuff. 353 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: You're just not seeing guys. So to me, I think 354 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: if you can get out, if you have a training 355 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: camp nearby and you can get out when they have 356 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: joint practices, go do it. 357 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 3: Man. 358 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 2: That's some of the best football you're going to see. 359 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: That is good versus good and that's going to give 360 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: you a better indication of what your team looks like. 361 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 3: And everyone should understand why joint practices are really like 362 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 3: by coaches is because you get the speed, the intensity, 363 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 3: the physicality of a preseason game, but you have control, 364 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 3: meaning my quarterback doesn't get hit. I have the ability 365 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 3: to use a quick whistle so we don't have to 366 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 3: get my guys tackled to the ground. So from an 367 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 3: evaluation standpoint, I can see everything at full speed without 368 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 3: some of the risk of a let's tack them to 369 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 3: the ground, let's hit the quarterback, all of those other things. 370 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 3: That's why you see so many guys love it. That's 371 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 3: why you see so many coaches putting their starters in 372 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 3: doing the practice week and then putting the young guys 373 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 3: or developmental players on the field. 374 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: During the games, no doubt. And that's again I think 375 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: this has been a trend for a while and now 376 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: you're seeing it. Used to be, hey, you had you know, 377 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: let's set up to do one joint. Now you've got 378 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: teams doing multiple joint practices with different teams to get 379 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: different looks, exposure, guys are different things, so it's here 380 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: to stay it's not going anywhere. The fourth lesson this 381 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: is more of a scouting lesson Buck It's tough to 382 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: draw conclusions and have a pure evaluation on running backs, linebackers, 383 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: and safeties in this time of the year because even 384 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: in the joint practice is good versus good, you're not 385 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: going to the ground, So you're not going to get 386 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: a sense for running backs that can pull through tackles. 387 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: They can, you know, have balance contact balance. You're not 388 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: going to get a chance to see linebackers if it's 389 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: just a pop thud period you're not going to see 390 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: is that you're really going to get that dude on 391 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: the ground. 392 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: And then safeties, you know, from that standpoint as. 393 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: Well, we've been all over the fact that if you 394 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: can't tackle in the secondary, you are in big trouble man. 395 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: So you've got to be able to get guys on 396 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: the ground, and we're simply just not going to know 397 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: until you get to the regular season, especially with unproven 398 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 1: young players at those positions. 399 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 3: Now, you won't know. And as much you want to 400 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 3: simulate it, as much as we have the tackling donuts 401 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 3: and the rings and the pop up bags and Seahawks 402 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 3: tackling drills, you don't know till you get them on 403 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 3: the field, and you have to do it in live action. 404 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 3: You have to get guys to the ground. And when 405 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 3: we talk about tackling to the ground and how important 406 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 3: it is in the secondary, you only get if anybody 407 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 3: in games and running backs being able to pull through 408 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 3: and run through contacts. Come guys, Man, they just a 409 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 3: ugly looking athletes until you put the pads on and 410 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 3: you play live and then you look up and they 411 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 3: just contact their physical back that you want. They find 412 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 3: a way to consistently give you those hard yards, all 413 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 3: those things. And look, man, everyone on the line about 414 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 3: how you evaluate how you get your your team ready 415 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 3: to play, But some things you just have to do. 416 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 3: And some of these guys, some of your running backs 417 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 3: and your skill players, they got to play in these 418 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 3: preseason games because I got to see if they can play, 419 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 3: they can tackle, if they g handle the contact. 420 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: I think I think at those three positions, I think 421 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: there's more of a case to be made for Okay, 422 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: even you your first second third round pick, you know 423 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: we think you're going to start for us. You should 424 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: get those guys in preseason games because that give you 425 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: a different look, you. 426 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 3: Gotta get them in. You gotta see them tackle, you 427 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 3: gotta get them ready, man, you gotta get Mike Tomlin 428 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 3: always says, I haven't seen a great boxer that doesn't spark. 429 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 3: You gotta you gotta, you gotta, you gotta embrace some 430 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 3: of that part of the physical, physical part of the 431 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 3: game to really see if your players are what you 432 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 3: think they are. 433 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: Ye, last one here, number five and this one is 434 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: just you know, paying attention. Been out at practice literally 435 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: literally a lot of this came from just going to 436 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: the Charger practice to day. I was out there but 437 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: thinking of like Mac and Bosa. Uh and obviously Ma's 438 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: older than Bosa, but two veterans, and the thought just 439 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: came to me. And we've said we've said similar things 440 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: in the past, but Buck, as pass rushers, power ages 441 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: so much better than speed. It just does you get 442 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: power rushers, you can play forever. That power I mean, 443 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: calib Mack can still get in your chest and walk 444 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: you right back to the quarterback at thirty three years old, 445 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: I ain't a problem. 446 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, like like force over finess, And you're right about 447 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 3: power rushes being able to play, man, because there's something 448 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 3: like we all acquire as we get old at old 449 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 3: man strength. And so we think about you, think about you, 450 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 3: think about Khalil Mack and how he entered the league 451 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 3: and how he's continuing to play. His ability to put 452 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 3: his hand right in the middle of your chest and 453 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 3: dictate the terms after that, where I'm go up the field, 454 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 3: whether I'm coming under, where I'm just gonna bull wheresh 455 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 3: you will walk you back. He has all of that 456 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 3: and DJ, you're right, Oh, he never goes out of style. 457 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 3: And those pass rushes that have that ability that continue 458 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 3: to win and win and win. And if you're a 459 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 3: speed rusher that relies sold than your athleticism and athleticism, 460 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 3: your speed, your explosiveness and athleticism, you have to find 461 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 3: a way to add some of the physical part to 462 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 3: your game because when you get older, what is going 463 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 3: to be your next pitch, What is going to be 464 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 3: the stuff when they're sitting on your speed rush? 465 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: What else do you have to be able to win? Yeah? 466 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: No, I just to me, I was just thinking about that, 467 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: going Okay, when you're a general manager sitting in the 468 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: chair and you've got to make those second and third 469 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: contract decisions. Second contract maybe not as much of an issue. 470 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: Third contract, I need power to be a key element 471 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: of how you're getting home because I think that can 472 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: age a little bit better and we can still get 473 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: some production and value out of you. And let's be honest, 474 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: if you're a power rusher, you're probably pretty good at 475 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: set in the edge too, So I'm going to get 476 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: some strength and some power at the point of attack 477 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: as well against the run. 478 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 3: Also, if you're a power rusher, you're probably better with 479 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 3: your hands than the speed rushing. Power rushing you have 480 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 3: to let you have to use all the leverage. You 481 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 3: have to button jerk, you have to push pool, you 482 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 3: have to different all of those things that power players do. 483 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 3: When it comes to walking guys back, you have that. 484 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 3: I think in a perfect world you would like to 485 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,719 Speaker 3: have both in your line. But you're right as an 486 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 3: older player giving the crafty old veteran who has heavy hands, 487 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 3: he finds a way to consistent give me production. 488 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Well there you go, Buck. 489 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: There's those are my five lessons there to remind folks of. 490 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to give you the liberty and the freedom 491 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: to add to the list if you would like to 492 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: submit any any requests of other things. That we should 493 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: remind people of this time of the year, because I 494 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: think sometimes it just they just remember, keep this in mind. 495 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 2: Let's have some perspective. 496 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's have some perspective. And here's the one thing, 497 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 3: DJ that we also know. The depth chart is about 498 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 3: to change. There's never more movement on the depth chart 499 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 3: than after the first preseason game. All of the hopes 500 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 3: and stuff that you had during the offseason, all the 501 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 3: guys that were OTA Warriors. After the first game, we're 502 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 3: gonna see who's who was what because it changes that week. 503 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 504 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: No, The difference I would say is that in and 505 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: back in our day, you know, in the early two thousands, 506 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: you would see that change from in the ones. Now, 507 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: I think it's more about, Okay, this guy thinks he's 508 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: locked in as the number two tight end. 509 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: You know that. You know he's he's locked in as 510 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 2: our third or fourth safety. 511 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: Those are the jobs in the preseason games that are 512 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: getting jostled and moved around. 513 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: A little bit. 514 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 3: Absolutely, you changed in the pecking word. 515 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 2: Last thing. 516 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: Uh, and then and then we'll wrap this thing up 517 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: on a on a quick pod today, I saw that 518 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson has started to kind of ease back in. 519 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: Do you think based off the head start, I was remembind, 520 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking of the combine. You know what we 521 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: do with rich and we do the simulcams like and 522 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: we're like, oh, give this person five yards head start. 523 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: Then this person gets seven yards, like Justin Field's got 524 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: a pretty significant head start on Russell Wilson. 525 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 2: There what about ten days worth? 526 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 3: So here's the thing. And and much like we talked 527 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 3: about with a top one hundred is not what I 528 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 3: hear from the coaches is what I hear from the 529 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 3: other players when I hear Patrick Queen talk about, man, 530 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 3: he's been able to give us such a good look 531 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 3: to get ready for Lamar Jackson and those other guys, 532 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 3: and just how his speed and explosiveness as a runner, 533 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 3: how he is and this is their words, how he's 534 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 3: solid into pocket. But man, that extra stuff really keeps 535 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 3: you up at night. Then you hear their decoordinator, Tarol 536 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 3: Austin talk about, man, it's been good to work against 537 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 3: him because he's getting us ready to see those athletic 538 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 3: quarterbacks that were going to see down the road. I 539 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 3: don't know what he's doing in practice, but he's certainly 540 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 3: doing something where there's some oohs and odds that are 541 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 3: taking place in the defensive meeting room when they look 542 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 3: at to take. 543 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just thinking of, you know, their name 544 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 2: had come up. 545 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: The Steelers had come up with Brandon Ayuk, and I 546 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: continue to maintain I don't see how it makes any 547 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: sense for the forty nine Ers to trade him. But 548 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: obviously when Deontae Johnson goes out of the building bringing 549 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: Roman Wilson, who I like, is a rookie and it's 550 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: going to be a good player in the league. And 551 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: obviously George Pickens has got to be consistent. But the 552 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: ceiling is there. But I think we would be in 553 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: agreement Buck that there's more needed in the receiver department, 554 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: which almost just begs the question if this wasn't a 555 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 1: fortuitous injury, maybe obviously not for Russell Wilson, but maybe 556 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 1: for the Steelers to look at their offense and through 557 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: a different lens and say, you know what, we're going 558 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: to embrace it. We are going to run the ball 559 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: down your throat and guess what we got eleven guys, 560 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: Now we're not playing ten on eleven anymore. 561 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 3: DJ. I just think like just hearing the players, not 562 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 3: Tomlin giving coach speak, but just hearing the defensive players 563 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 3: talk about their offense with Justin Fields, and I know, 564 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 3: like he's a polarizing player, but there is something that 565 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 3: he's doing to elicit these responses. There wouldn't be so 566 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 3: many guys saying about the same thing about his exploseness, 567 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 3: his athleticism, how he runs the ball, the challenge that 568 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 3: he brings and having to defend him. I don't know, man, 569 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 3: normally DJ, where there's smoke, there's fight. So I'm not 570 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 3: saying Russ can't win it, but I'm just saying where 571 00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 3: there's smoke this far, and there's a lot of buzz 572 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 3: about Justin Fields and what he's been doing in practice. 573 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: You know how I have these weird analogies and weird visuals, 574 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: like I don't know what my brain works that way, 575 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: but I just think of you could go from like 576 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: the the offensive philosophy really being Okay, we're gonna be 577 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: dart thorers. We're gonna have Russell Wilson back there in 578 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: the pocket feet in the ground throwing darts, versus not 579 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,959 Speaker 1: we're gonna play, We're going bowling. We're just gonna put 580 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: fields back there and it's gonna be a bowling ball 581 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: and you're gonna see a splattering of pins. Like that's 582 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: like a different visual for what the offense could look like. 583 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: And Pittsburgh has never been like that. 584 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 3: So, like, think about the years that they've had to 585 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 3: deal with Lamar Jackson and having to come up with 586 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 3: a plan to deal with all of that other stuff. Well, 587 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 3: now you get a chance to pay it back. You 588 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 3: get a chance to make Baltimore prepare for Lamar Jackson 589 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 3: type player in Justin Fields in terms of the athleticism 590 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 3: like that. Look, that's a different hustle for everybody because 591 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 3: it changes your mindset. And having Russ back there, certainly 592 00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 3: Rusk can run around, but not to the level of 593 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 3: Justin Fields. No, what we've always believed with Justin Fields 594 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 3: is like, in the right offense, he has potential. And 595 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 3: if Arthur Smith goes all in on, Hey, let's get 596 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 3: the young guy ready to play. Let's treat him like 597 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 3: we treated Ryan Tannehill. Let's protect him with the running game, 598 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 3: play action, Let's put him on the move, Let's do 599 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 3: some RPO stuff. There's a vision that you can see 600 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 3: that the Stillers may have if Justin Fields is a quarterback. 601 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: The other thing I would keep in mind, we said 602 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: this when they signed him, is that Tomlin will play 603 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: guys in the preseason a little bit more his little 604 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: old school in that in that regard, and Justin Fields 605 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: is going to be going up against a lot of backups. 606 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 2: He is going to look like Superman on that field. 607 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 3: He's going to wear people out, like running. 608 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,479 Speaker 1: Think about think about a couple of different areas here. 609 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: You're gonna have three different focuses after their first preseason game. 610 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: The number one is going to be in Pittsburgh. Justin 611 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: Fields has to start. It's over. The competition's over, right. 612 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: That's the first That's the first leg of this three 613 00:26:58,880 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: legged stool. 614 00:26:59,560 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 3: Here. 615 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 2: The second leg is going to be in Chicago. We 616 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 2: screwed up. 617 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: We should have just traded the pick, stuck with Justin 618 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: and just built around. That's the second stool. That's the 619 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: second leg. The third one is gonna be for the 620 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: handful of other teams that don't love their quarterbacks and 621 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: those cities Sports Talk Radio, Why the heck didn't we 622 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: get Justin Fields cost nothing? Why didn't we trade for 623 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: Justin Fields? Why didn't we get that though? 624 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 3: It's gonna be interesting to see how it plays out. 625 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 3: I hope for him that it works out well, that 626 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 3: he plays well. Great kid, So we'll just see what 627 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 3: it plays out. But yeah, these are the buzz and 628 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 3: what you're hearing come out of Pittsburgh is crazy. And 629 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 3: if the Niners grow tired of dealing with the Brandon 630 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 3: Ayuk saga, if they drop him into Pittsburgh with him 631 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 3: and George Pickens and you just think about this offense 632 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 3: and what it can do running to football and all 633 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 3: that other stuff interesting in the offense. 634 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: Potentially, Yep, we'll see as Russell Wilson gathers his health 635 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: here if that changes this momentum that has already been 636 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: building there for Justin Fields. All right, that's gonna do 637 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: it for us today. Anything else you want to drop 638 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: in here before we get out of here, Buck. 639 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 3: Now, a lot of fun looking forward to looking for 640 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 3: us is more pause later a new week. 641 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: Yep, we got a couple more coming your way, so 642 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: be on the lookout for those until then. We appreciate you, 643 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: appreciate you leaving us those ratings and reviews as well, 644 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: so uh we uh we always check those out and 645 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: uh and that's a big help to us, so appreciate it. 646 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 2: We'll see you next time, right here on movie stick.