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Speaker 2: Welcome to July and the Dan Patrick Show. Gangs al

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Speaker 2: free agency. Now, there wasn't a big deal, A major

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Speaker 2: deal that you know sometimes will overshadow the smaller deals.

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Speaker 2: pull question play the Day, stat of the Day, all

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Speaker 2: of that forthcoming. So a lot of moves, but nothing

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Speaker 2: that's probably headline worthy, you know. Michael Porter Junior the

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Speaker 2: third leaves the nugget. He goes to the nets, and

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Speaker 2: some money. Cam Johnson comes from the nets. Similar stats,

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Speaker 2: but Johnson makes I think about seventeen million less than

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Speaker 2: Michael Porter Junior the third. So this is the start

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Speaker 2: of I think another move for the Denver Nuggets. They

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Speaker 2: bring back Bruce Brown, who was one of the instrumental

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Speaker 2: players on that championship team. A couple of years ago.

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Speaker 2: The MAVs added di'angelo Russell. This is basically a rental

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Speaker 2: for a year a half a year with Kyrie Irving

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Speaker 2: being out Clippers Ad Brook Lopez. Now, you gotta be

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Speaker 2: careful when you say, oh, they got a big man.

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Speaker 2: He's a tall man. I don't know if he plays

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Speaker 2: necessarily like a big man. He became a very very

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Speaker 2: good three point shooter, and he does block shots on

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Speaker 2: the defensive end. He does as opposed to blocking shots

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Speaker 2: on the offensive end. Dan, You're right, you got me there.

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Speaker 2: The Hawks are The Hawks are sneaky man. Hawks are

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Speaker 2: getting deeper and I my Hawks are playing you know

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Speaker 2: they're they're playing for keeps.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: The East is wide open. I mean, if you're the Hawks,

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Speaker 2: go all in.

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Speaker 2: There's injuries there, so let's see maybe you can get

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Speaker 2: back to the Eastern Conference finals. The Rockets. The Rockets

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Speaker 2: are all in as well. Big loss for the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: Dorian Finney Smith. They get him more more depth there.

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Speaker 2: so we'll talk a little bit more about that. With

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Speaker 2: free agency coming up eight seven to seven, three DP Show,

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Speaker 2: we'll settle on a pole question and once again we'll

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Speaker 2: have our play of the day coming up as well.

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Speaker 2: Seatan what's pole question? We're going to go with first

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Speaker 2: hour of the program, Best day yesterday.

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Speaker 7: Pittsburgh Steelers, Houston Rockets, Atlanta Hawks, others, Stealers, Rockets, Hawks, others.

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Speaker 3: I'd say the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: It feels like, I mean, I don't like giving up

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Speaker 3: But you already have a tight end. Can you have

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Speaker 2: What if you now won't happen. But I was just

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Speaker 2: wondering this. How about the Bengals and Steelers make a

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Speaker 2: now I got two edge rushers. Maybe Hendrickson cost me

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Speaker 2: They give him forty million dollars. I'll hang up and listen.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Pony, that does fix everything. But the Bengals and

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Speaker 3: Steelers aren't going to make him.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I guess ish, I don't know, but I would

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Speaker 2: At you know, at what point do you say, can

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Speaker 2: you're going to lose him or risk losing him. You're

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Speaker 2: all in on this year, this trade bringing Ramsey in,

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Speaker 2: DK metcap the movie like this is in but is it?

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Speaker 2: You're all in if you don't have TJ.

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Speaker 2: So I would say the Steelers did pretty well yesterday

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Nikola Jokic had a pretty good day yesterday too.

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Speaker 7: Maybe not as good as those other teams, but the

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Speaker 2: Felt like they wanted to get rid of Michael Porter Junior.

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Speaker 3: Look like it.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the best odds according to DraftKings MVP

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Speaker 2: Joker plus two hundred, SGA plus two fifty, then it's

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Speaker 2: Binyana SGA is going to have a hard time going

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Speaker 2: Maybe you'll see something different from Joker, although it be

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Speaker 2: Yis you know, Yannis put up unbelievable numbers last year,

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Speaker 2: but he just kind of graduated to that. Yeah, I know,

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Speaker 2: But I think Luca, this is this is Luca's year,

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Speaker 2: Joker's already won his MVPs. SGA just won it. Jannis

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Speaker 2: be like, you know, what's wrong. You're ever gonna win

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Speaker 2: want to know when you're gonna win a title. He

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Speaker 2: But I do think it's his year. If I'm looking

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Speaker 2: Maybe puts up even crazier numbers there. Wemby's gonna put

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Speaker 2: up great numbers. I don't think they're ready for him yet.

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Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards, Yeah, good numbers. I don't think MVP numbers. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Marvin is Luca the Josh Allen of the NBA. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think you could look at him and say, when

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Speaker 2: But yeah, you could say that, and there's no reason

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Speaker 2: tricky with the whole Lebron situation of and their odds

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Speaker 3: I think it was.

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Speaker 2: Let me see, I have it here. They're title odds

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Speaker 2: moved to plus thirteen hundred. It was plus fifteen hundred,

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Speaker 2: no let me let me read it correctly. Lakers' title

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Speaker 8: Huh okay, Dorian Finnie effect.

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Speaker 2: Yes, apparently, well are you going to get a big

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Speaker 2: man here? And we're looking at what everybody else is doing,

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Speaker 2: certainly what Houston is doing, and they were the number

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Speaker 2: two seed Denver making a couple of moves here, they're

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Speaker 2: teams making moves and the Lakers aren't one of them.

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Speaker 2: Your move is okay, we just lost Dorian Finney Smith

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Speaker 2: and then Luca got in shape.

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Speaker 3: We don't have a big man yet. Did we improve

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Speaker 3: right now?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 2: But I don't know what move you're going to make.

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Speaker 2: And it felt like there was more speculation yesterday after

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Speaker 2: Lebron's got a no trade. And the thing I keep

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Speaker 2: coming back to and I don't think they're trading Lebron.

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Speaker 2: It felt like it was just, hey, let's speculate on

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Speaker 2: what if Lebron goes to Cleveland. Okay, if I'm Lebron,

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Speaker 2: I've already said I'm not about chasing titles. It's not

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Speaker 2: about titles. You know, you don't have to win. You know,

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Speaker 2: the guy who has the most title. I'm paraphrasing him,

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Speaker 2: but it's basically it's not necessarily about titles. Well it is,

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Speaker 2: but he's not going to catch Michael. But let's say

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Speaker 2: he would say, trade me to Cleveland. Okay, what's Cleveland

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Speaker 2: have to give up to get him? If you're Lebron,

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Speaker 2: don't you if you wanted to do something, you leave,

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Speaker 2: You don't opt back in because you're going to take

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Speaker 2: Just can't imagine he's going to go. You know, I'm

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Speaker 2: It's really dangerous in this business. We're like, what are

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Speaker 8: Twenty eight points, eight rebounds, seven and a half assists,

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Speaker 2: he's he's Wemby Before Wemby, I mean he came along

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Speaker 2: to have too many signature moves there, Yes, Martin, So.

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Speaker 3: Was Wemby the super freak? Oh okay, he could be.

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Speaker 3: oh delay, I just pressed the the button. Marvin knows

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Speaker 8: real quick before we break Luca, I'm sorry, Yannis. The

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Speaker 2: Let's bring in a guy who's a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 2: He wins awards, he won a Super Bowl. He's Bill Coward,

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Speaker 2: is your Super Bowl trophy?

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Speaker 4: Uh? Well, right, actually, right right behind me, there's a

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Speaker 4: the actual one is, yeah, it's it's basically there.

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Speaker 4: Actual trophy is in the hut at Pittsburgh. Okay, in

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Speaker 3: Your Hall of Fame jacket is it always close by?

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Speaker 2: But the NFL doesn't like to pay you in what

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Speaker 4: Losing make it, he will be lost. He was a

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Speaker 2: Would you give Rogers maybe not total autonomy, but you

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Speaker 4: Absolutely. I don't think there's that question about it. And

436
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,199
Speaker 4: I think Aaron's at a point where he knows that

437
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 4: you know, you want to be, you know, throwing the

438
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Speaker 4: ball forty times a game. I don't think you at

439
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 4: this point. You want Aaron Rodgers to be healthy going

440
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 4: into the playoffs and hopefully you get to the playoffs.

441
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 4: And I think in the meantime, you've created a balance

442
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Speaker 4: on your football team and not just relying on his

443
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 4: arm throughout the course of four quarters. Listen, you can

444
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Speaker 4: turn the ball over to him in the end of

445
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Speaker 4: a half, the end of a game, and you know

446
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 4: he's been there before, and I think that he will

447
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,199
Speaker 4: operate that very, very efficiently. Again, I think it's going

448
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,479
Speaker 4: to be a matter of getting comfortable within this system

449
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Speaker 4: with the players he has around him.

450
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Speaker 2: At least to me on the outside, is this isn't

451
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Speaker 2: what Pittsburgh normally does. This was totally against what their

452
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 2: whole framework. Like that feels like urgency, And I don't

453
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Speaker 2: know if that's a fair enough word to use, but

454
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Speaker 2: for me, it feels like we got to change. We

455
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 2: got to get into the playoffs. We got to win

456
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Speaker 2: a playoff game. At least your thoughts eight.

457
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Speaker 4: Eight years no playoff wins. There is a degree of

458
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,959
Speaker 4: urgency in that building, no question about it. It's with

459
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 4: Omar's art, it's with Mike. They understand it. That's part

460
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 4: of it, and part of that's going to be happening

461
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Speaker 4: to make sure you win your division. We look at

462
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 4: the Cincinnati Bengals with what they've done. I think their

463
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Speaker 4: biggest demise has been the month of September. They've gone

464
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 4: off to these slow starts and it's cost them later

465
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Speaker 4: in the season. The Baltimore Ravens have been knocking on

466
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 4: the AFC championship door the last couple of years, So

467
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 4: in that division alone is the most important thing. You

468
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Speaker 4: want to win your division first, and I think that's

469
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Speaker 4: the first and foremost is what they've done in terms

470
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Speaker 4: of what the choices they've made, bringing in depth of

471
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Speaker 4: corner sitting there and making sure that you sure up

472
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Speaker 4: the running game with Aaron Rodgers and bringing him in

473
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Speaker 4: and going back with Arthur Smith, and doing some of

474
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 4: the things that can situate some of your strengths, which

475
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 4: has been on the defensive side of the ball. Getting

476
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 4: a harmon in the first round to help that defensive line.

477
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Speaker 4: I think they've done a lot of good things. They

478
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 4: think the biggest thing right now is going out there

479
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 4: and trying to bring this whole thing together. A lot

480
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Speaker 4: of a lot of change in terms of the faces

481
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Speaker 4: on this team. That doesn't happen overnight. It takes time.

482
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Speaker 4: Communication has to take place. You know, you have to

483
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Speaker 4: create some kind of continuity and with what you're trying

484
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Speaker 4: to do on both sides of the ball. So again,

485
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 4: going in there with an idea, but also with the

486
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Speaker 4: flexibility that you can be able to adjust and adapt

487
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Speaker 4: as the season goes along.

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Speaker 3: What were you like at home after a loss.

489
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Speaker 4: Looking on to the next week. Honestly, I never took it.

490
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Speaker 4: I think, what did you learn from it? What do

491
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 4: we need to do better? What was the things that

492
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Speaker 4: the reason why we lost? Sometimes and even in a loss,

493
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 4: it's not a bad loss, we actually probably played better.

494
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Speaker 4: So I think the biggest thing when you look at

495
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Speaker 4: a season, you know you have to be trending in

496
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Speaker 4: the right way, staying within touch, staying to understand where

497
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Speaker 4: you are with the chance to make that playoffs, and

498
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Speaker 4: playing your best football at the end of the season.

499
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Speaker 4: So it's a journey. Dan, you sit there and look

500
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 4: at the season. I always said, it's like it's three parts.

501
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Speaker 4: The first part is you're trying to find out what

502
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 4: your identity is as a football team, and in course

503
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Speaker 4: of doing that, your identity can change. Every year. All

504
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 4: of a sudden, somebody starts to play better than you

505
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 4: thought they were. Somebody's not playing as well as you

506
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 4: thought they were. What's your strengths, what's your weaknesses? You

507
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 4: accentuate your strengths, you're trying to mask your flaws. And

508
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 4: so the middle part of the season, I said, it's

509
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Speaker 4: kind of the men navigating the murky waters injuries schedule,

510
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,959
Speaker 4: just being able to not you know, make sure if

511
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Speaker 4: you lose a game, it doesn't become a trend like Okay,

512
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 4: you bounce back and the last part of the season,

513
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,719
Speaker 4: you are who you are with who you have. This

514
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 4: is your team. So at that point, your identity is

515
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Speaker 4: what it is. You try to scentuate that and get

516
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 4: your guys to a sense of confidence, a sense of freedom,

517
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 4: playing fast, playing confident, and going out there with a

518
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Speaker 4: sense of purpose. And so that's that's kind of how

519
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 4: we segmented season and tried to get to that point.

520
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 4: And I think, again, every year is a different year.

521
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Speaker 2: But if I came to your house after a loss,

522
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 2: would I be able to tell you lost again?

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Speaker 4: No? No, I mean I never took work home and

524
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 4: I never brought home the word no. I mean. I

525
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 4: think one of the biggest things for me, and just

526
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 4: raising three daughters who played basketball or an athletics. My

527
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 4: late wife was an athlete, is you know, it's what

528
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 4: you do, it's not who you are. And I always

529
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 4: believe that that's that's a big part of who I am.

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Speaker 4: I was when I came home. I was a husband

531
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Speaker 4: and a father, and you know, it just so happens

532
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 4: when I had a bad day at work. Everybody knew,

533
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 4: you know, so we all have that. And you know,

534
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 4: I says to say, you know, you drive up to

535
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 4: a stomp sign. A lawyer just lost a case where

536
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 4: the client maybe lost his life earnings. A doctor pulls

537
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 4: up that stomp sign and he may have just lost

538
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 4: a patient on the operating table. And I'm gonna pull

539
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Speaker 4: up the soft sign and I just lost a game

540
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Speaker 4: and they're all gonna look over me and say it's

541
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Speaker 4: all right, coach, You'll be okay. And I'm thinking, because

542
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 4: they can compartmentalize it. No one really knows what they

543
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 4: went through, but everybody knows you have a bad day

544
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 4: at work, so you know, I think the ability to

545
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 4: compartmentalize that is very very important in terms of your

546
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 4: everyday lifestyle. And I think that's how you can have

547
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 4: sustained career because you can't. You know, it bothers you. Yeah,

548
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 4: but you do what you have to do. You prepare

549
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 4: for it, You let them, let the dice roll how

550
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 4: they roll, and you go from there and you move

551
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 4: on weekend, week out.

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Speaker 2: What's the game that keeps up wakes up at night?

553
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 2: Is there one that's always going to be there?

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Speaker 4: Probably I don't know. I guess I think about I

555
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 4: think about the two thousand and four AFC Championship game.

556
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 4: That's a football team. We were fifteen and one, sixteen

557
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 4: and one, and we're coming down and it was Ben's

558
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 4: rookie year, and we're coming down to the end of

559
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 4: the second half in the second quarter, and the Rodney

560
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 4: Harrison pick because I think we had we actually had

561
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 4: it over the top. It was kind of a you know,

562
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,719
Speaker 4: and Ben kind of locked in on Heath Miller. So

563
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 4: but you know, that was probably one because it was

564
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Speaker 4: like it was like the fourth AFC Championship loss. The

565
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 4: championship losses, I can remember every one of them. The

566
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Speaker 4: last play against the San Diego Chargers in nineteen ninety four,

567
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 4: we try to throw it to Barry Foster in the

568
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 4: end zone with Neil o'donald incomplete Dennis Gibson. We lose

569
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Speaker 4: the game. Ninety seven, we play against the Denver Broncos

570
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Speaker 4: and Cordell throws a couple of interceptions in the end zone.

571
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Speaker 4: We're getting so we moved the ball. We had a

572
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 4: chance in that game. In l way, it's Shannon Sharp

573
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 4: with a big third down pass and Lee Flowers is

574
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 4: getting ready to hitch on l way in the back.

575
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Speaker 4: Two thousand and one, Probably the one I think about

576
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Speaker 4: the most is we get a block field goal for

577
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Speaker 4: a touchdown, a putt return for a touchdown. We knocked

578
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Speaker 4: Brady out, bletso comes in, we hold him for two

579
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 4: hundred and forty yards. We were third, going up and

580
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 4: down the field. We just can't score touchdown. So that

581
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 4: one was bad. Then to lose back to them again

582
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 4: in two thousand and four, the one I just talked

583
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 4: about to you about, So pick any one of them.

584
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 4: I remember every one of them. So why we're going

585
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 4: done this?

586
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Speaker 3: I don't know this misery?

587
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,959
Speaker 4: Wayne, Like, yes, the big ways you want to all

588
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 4: the losses? Okay, I'm sorry, all right, that's right, Dan,

589
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 4: That's okay.

590
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 3: I just dawned on me. I'm like, oh my god,

591
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 3: what am I doing?

592
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 4: You know?

593
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 3: And then I'm going to say, have a great rest

594
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Speaker 3: of the day.

595
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 4: There, nice memory, way, And that was great.

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00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: So you know what, put your.

597
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Speaker 3: Put your Hall of Fame jacket on and walk around

598
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Speaker 3: the blotchers.

599
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 4: But the truth of the matter is, I think if

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00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 4: you look at any coach, they remember the losses. They

601
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 4: more than you remember the wins. And I think that's

602
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 4: a very very fair point. And so you look at

603
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 4: every one of those things. What could you have done differently,

604
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 4: a different play in ninety ninety four? Uh, you know,

605
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 4: maybe if in ninety seven, if I run the ball

606
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 4: livey a little bit more and not try to throw

607
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Speaker 4: it as much as I did two thousand and one,

608
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Speaker 4: I mean, my gosh, if we're just like a part

609
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 4: return and a block field goal for touchdowns and special

610
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 4: teams was like I was a special team's coach. It's

611
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Speaker 4: nothing bothered the war that SAT would probably worse now

612
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 4: I think about it. Probably Sat it would be worse

613
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Speaker 4: than any of them. It's two thousand and one. So

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Speaker 4: in two thousand and four, listen, it was a great year,

615
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 4: and you know, and Tom did. They did a great job.

616
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Speaker 4: They beat us in that game, we beat him in

617
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 4: the regular season, they beat us in the playoffs, and

618
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Speaker 4: we got our redemption in two thousand and five. But

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Speaker 4: you know what, honestly, two thousand and one probably because

620
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Speaker 4: that was a really good team and that was a

621
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Speaker 4: bad loss, just just two returns for touchdowns and a

622
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Speaker 4: kicking game. Come on, I can we can we move

623
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Speaker 4: on from that?

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Speaker 1: I'm out of time.

625
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Speaker 3: I can't talk about all the great wins. Coach. I

626
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 3: got to come back.

627
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Speaker 4: I came on this morning. Thank you for making my day, Rosie.

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Speaker 3: Enjoy the rest of your day, coach.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks, thanks.

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Speaker 3: That's that's Bill Kuer, Hall of Fame coach.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific

633
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,960
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00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: Bobby Marks espn NBA Front Office Insider, regular contributor to

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638
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 2: let me start with that surprise that Miles Turner is

639
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 2: going to the Bucks, and then what they did with

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00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: Dame Lillard.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was surprised.

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Speaker 6: I thought, listen, Indiana gets to an NBA finals and

643
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 6: certainly Turner is a priority. I think things changed a

644
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 6: little bit with the Halbert injury. As far as where

645
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Speaker 6: Indiana is going next year with their roster.

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Speaker 4: I think the.

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Speaker 6: Interesting thing, Dan, they've they haven't paid the luxury tax

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Speaker 6: in twenty years. They had signed Turner, this would have

649
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Speaker 6: put them into tax for the first time, and they

650
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Speaker 6: basically let him walk to a division rival that's trying

651
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 6: to keep their franchise level player on their roster.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, it is. It is surprising the Lizard one.

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Speaker 6: I think the Lillard one is probably more surprising for me.

654
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 6: I know, he's out with that injury and he's owed

655
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 6: one hundred and thirteen million dollars and they stretched that

656
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 6: money over five years.

657
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 5: It's the biggest stretch ever.

658
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 6: Twenty two point nine million that he's going to be owed.

659
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Speaker 6: And I think when Damien does get returned from that injury,

660
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 6: he'll have a high demand. Whenever that is, you know,

661
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 6: it might be a year from now here, but it

662
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 6: will be interesting how this Bucks roster with they lose

663
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 6: Brook Lopez, but they get Miles Turner to join Giannis.

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Speaker 2: More likely or less likely that Jannis will be on

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Speaker 2: the move anytime soon.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was.

667
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Speaker 6: I think it's less likely that he'll be on the move,

668
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Speaker 6: And I said that this morning when we were doing TV,

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Speaker 6: just based on some of the moves they had made

670
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Speaker 6: with Bobby Porters, and they bring back Gary Trent Junior

671
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 6: and Kevin Porter some of their role players. They still

672
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 6: got to go get a point guard, though, I mean,

673
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Speaker 6: I think that's gonna be the most important thing. I think.

674
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Speaker 6: I think the one name to keep an eye on

675
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 6: is Chris Paul. I would keep an eye on Chris Paul.

676
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Speaker 6: I don't know if it fits what Chris is trying

677
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 6: to do this at this tale of his career, certainly

678
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 6: being in Milwaukee, not close to home, I know that

679
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 6: is a priority for him. But he's the best available

680
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 6: free agent point guard in the market. He played eighty

681
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 6: two games last year and he still got a lot left.

682
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Speaker 6: So I would think that would if I'm Milwaukee, that's

683
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 6: the priority for me as far as going out and

684
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Speaker 6: trying to get a player like that.

685
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 3: But what about the Pacers in lieu of Tyrese Halliburton?

686
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 3: What do you do?

687
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: We saw what Dallas did with Kyrie out and get

688
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: D'Angelo Russell's what's Indiana's mindset here?

689
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Speaker 6: Well, the market of free agent centers, and this is

690
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 6: kind of the timing of it is not good for

691
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 6: Indiana because we had a rash of centers come.

692
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 5: Off the board yesterday. You had Brook Lopez, you had

693
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 5: you had Clint Capella.

694
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Speaker 6: There was a number of players here really that they

695
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Speaker 6: have this, we call it the non tax fourteen million

696
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 6: dollars to go out and spend. DeAndre Ayton is the

697
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 6: best available out there. I would think the market for

698
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 6: DeAndre Ayton gets a little bit better.

699
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 5: It had cooled off a little bit.

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Speaker 6: We thought maybe the Lakers were linked to him, and

701
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 6: we'll see if that plays out. But I think if

702
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 6: Eighton wants to go to Indiana, that would probably be.

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Speaker 5: A better fit for him.

704
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Speaker 6: But it is a tough blow for Indiana because now

705
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Speaker 6: you lose two out of your five starters for next year.

706
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Speaker 2: But are you bringing in somebody as a temporary replacement

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Speaker 2: for Halibert.

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Speaker 5: Well, they've got TJ.

709
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 6: McConnell, and they have Andrew Nemhard and they drafted. They

710
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 6: they went through the draft and picked up picked up

711
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 6: a guard there. So I I think the interesting thing

712
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Speaker 6: Dan is the move they made before the draft when

713
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 6: Haliburton right in the NBA Finals, when they were getting

714
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 6: able to get their first round pick back, they traded

715
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Speaker 6: their own pick this year to New Orleans and got

716
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Speaker 6: their pick back in twenty twenty six. So now that

717
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 6: gives them the flexibility like they're almost kind of we're

718
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 6: like Boston is where you're almost I don't want to

719
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 6: say gap year, but you're, you know, you're kind of

720
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Speaker 6: you can kind of pull back a little bit here

721
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Speaker 6: and reset that roster and still get a pretty good

722
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Speaker 6: draft pick.

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Speaker 3: Would you move Jalen Brown if you're the Celtics.

724
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Speaker 6: I wouldn't because I keep on coming back to this

725
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 6: notion that eventually Jason Tatum's coming back. I mean, like,

726
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Speaker 6: and you're going to have if the goal is to

727
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 6: try to win, you need Jalen Brown and Derek White

728
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Speaker 6: around him. And it's so hard getting a player like

729
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 6: Brown who's a top twenty player, and you know, White

730
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Speaker 6: does it, you know, do everything type guy to add

731
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 6: to your roster and trades and free agency. I wouldn't

732
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Speaker 6: unless it's you know, the mothership of packages and everything

733
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 6: like that.

734
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Speaker 5: I wouldn't move off off Jalen Brown.

735
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Speaker 2: Bobby Marks, ESPN, NBA Front Office Insider, and NBA Today

736
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: Free Agency Special. It's three hours starting at seven Eastern tonight.

737
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 2: Can you help me understand or translate what Rich Paul

738
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 2: was saying to us? And I guess the Lakers about

739
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: Lebron almost be grudgingly opting in, but hey, remember it's

740
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: about winning now, not the future.

741
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Speaker 6: Well, when I saw that, Dan, I had to send

742
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 6: it to my wife that I had said, can you

743
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 6: interpret this for me? Because I don't understand anything on here.

744
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Speaker 5: It's interesting.

745
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 6: It's like, well, we're going to opt into fifty three

746
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 6: million dollars, but we want the roster to be better

747
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 6: and I want to win. It has to be a

748
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 6: championship roster. Well, if you wanted to do that, why

749
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 6: don't you just decline your option? You had to pick

750
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 6: a team's I mean that would have been essentially the

751
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:38,479
Speaker 6: easiest thing to do here. Now he's opted in there,

752
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 6: Listen there, there's an incomplete for the Lakers as far

753
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 6: as their off season so far. I mean, they went

754
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 6: out and got Jake Lauravia, but they've got We've been

755
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 6: talking since February about getting a center. I mean, they

756
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 6: need to get a center, and there's no market for

757
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 6: them outside of eighton right now. And it's going to

758
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 6: be interesting the collateral damage or the impact if they

759
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 6: don't make significance improvements here because you've got Luca on

760
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 6: one end, who is your future, and then you have

761
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 6: Lebron here on the last year of a contract. Here

762
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 6: you're basically kind of working on two different timelines.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to understand.

764
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 2: And they lose Dorian Finney Smith to the Rockets, and

765
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: I start to wonder, Okay, they're going to bring back

766
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 2: Austin Reeves. You think he turned down uh that extension,

767
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 2: but they're going to bring him back. I'm guessing. But

768
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Speaker 2: I just wonder what exactly is Lebron saying? And I

769
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 2: agree with you.

770
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 3: I said the same thing.

771
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 2: If you don't like what it looks like in LA,

772
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 2: then go to Cleveland and win another title there. If that,

773
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 2: if you're not happy with this, you're not part of

774
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 2: the future, then you can win a championship in Cleveland

775
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 2: with the East wide open.

776
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think it would have worked maybe

777
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 6: five years ago. I mean, but now, as I said,

778
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 6: like where the Lakers are when you went out and

779
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 6: get you acquire Luca like he's the face of the franchise,

780
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 6: Like he's the face of the franchise. They're not going

781
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 6: to go out and make a short term move to

782
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 6: satisfy Lebron. Like they're not going out and giving up

783
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 6: all their draft equity for a short, short term move

784
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 6: for a player that likely won't be on their roster.

785
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Speaker 3: But aren't the Lakers trying to win now?

786
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 6: Bobby, Well, that's what they're trying to kind of thread

787
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 6: the needle, like you're trying to thread the needle of

788
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 6: winning now saving your flexibility for next year. That is

789
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 6: it's hard to do in the Western Conference, trying to

790
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 6: do that the Western Conference we went through yesterday. Dallas

791
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 6: got better because they got D'Angel Russell as a temporary

792
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 6: replacement for Kyrie. Of course, Cooper fly. You go through

793
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 6: the list, Denver, Cam Johnson, Houston of course as far

794
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 6: as where they're Okay, c brings back everything like if

795
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 6: you tell me right now, is the Lakers a top

796
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 6: five or six team in the in the what? I

797
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 6: don't think they are? And we had this debate this morning.

798
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 6: I would say the Dallas and Nico Harrison got criticized.

799
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 6: He got crucified, right like, and that's rightfully so based

800
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 6: on the trade and what happened.

801
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 5: But you could make the argument that Dallas is in

802
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 5: a better.

803
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 6: Position right now than the Los Angeles Lakers as far

804
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 6: as where they are. And I know they got lucky

805
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 6: with Cooper flag, but with Cooper flag, and if they

806
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 6: get Kyrie back in the debt they have with that roster.

807
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 6: If they of course, if they stay healthy, that they're

808
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 6: in a better position.

809
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear Nico Harrison tell me about

810
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: the vision that he had, because the vision was, Hey,

811
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: I traded away Luca. People hated me. We had injuries.

812
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: If we win one more game, we're not even in

813
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 2: the lottery. There's no vision here. He lucked into Cooper Flag.

814
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 2: That's all we needed to say. Hey, I still believe

815
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 2: in defense. When we're healthy, we're going to be very competitive.

816
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 2: We lucked into the lottery and I got Cooper Flag.

817
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 3: That's it. But don't tell me, hey, you see the

818
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 3: vision that I had. What exactly is that vision?

819
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 4: You know?

820
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 6: It would have been refreshing if he just went up

821
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 6: there and goes, man, we got lucky. Yeah, I mean

822
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 6: like humanize it, like humanize it, right.

823
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 5: We would all been like, yeah, you know what, you did,

824
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 5: get lucky.

825
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Speaker 3: What do you expect to out of Cooper Flag? First year?

826
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Speaker 9: Oh?

827
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 6: Man, I tell you I've probably told this story too

828
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 6: many times, but I mean I living out in Southwest Florida,

829
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 6: and I saw Cooper play when he was at Mount

830
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Speaker 6: Verd at the City of Palms Classic in Fort Myers.

831
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 6: This is when Cooper was sixteen. This was his senior

832
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 6: year in high school. And this is with Derrick Queen

833
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 6: and Lee McNeely and Ason Newell that team. And I

834
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 6: was sitting with a scout and I said that a scout, I'm.

835
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Speaker 5: Not making this up.

836
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 6: I go he could play in the NBA right now sixteen.

837
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 5: The beauty of Cooper.

838
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 6: Flag is not him scoring twenty two, twenty three points

839
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 6: a game. The beauty of Cooper Flag is defense. I

840
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 6: mean his defense, as far as his length, his IQ.

841
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 6: That's what's going to keep him in these games down

842
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 6: the stretch here. And I think he's he's all business.

843
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 6: I had an opportunity to sit down with them high level.

844
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 5: But I love I love the fact.

845
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 6: That he can come in right now and make an

846
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 6: impact defensively.

847
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 3: But I also wonder how do you ease him in

848
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 3: to a lineup? That's do you start him?

849
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 5: You start him, then you have PJ.

850
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 6: Washington come off. That's the That's the thing with Dallas.

851
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 6: They got so much depth they have, you know, whether

852
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 6: it be PJ. Washington or Nagie Marshall or Caleb Martin.

853
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 6: I mean you go, Kyrie, Clay Cooper, ad Derek Lively,

854
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 6: Daniel Gafford. I mean that's kind of what you're you're

855
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 6: looking at here. But I do think you, I do

856
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 6: think I mean, Jason's talking to my kid is all

857
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 6: about playing my point a little bit here too, which

858
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 6: is going to be interesting here. But I do think

859
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 6: you kind of it's like baptism by fire.

860
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, maybe I have him come in

861
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 3: off the bench.

862
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: He's playing against their second unit, but then you do

863
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 2: kind of want him surrounded a little bit there. I mean,

864
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: he's he's really got the luxury of he can defer

865
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 2: and nobody's going to complain if he defers. Whether if

866
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: he went to the Wizards, went to Brooklyn, I mean,

867
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: all eyes would be on him, like, all right, let

868
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: me see what you can do with Dallas. He can

869
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 2: attempt to blend in a little bit there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's almost like a quarterback getting drafted with the

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Speaker 6: first pick and like basically throwing him into like on

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Speaker 6: an expansion team, like we sort of I think Derek

873
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Speaker 6: Carr right with the Texans and you know where Cooper,

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Speaker 6: He's not going to Utah or Washington or Brooklyn. One

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Speaker 6: of these teams at rebuilding. You basically have all these

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Speaker 6: veterans around him that you can he's in more into

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Speaker 6: the situation.

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Speaker 3: Any big moves you're expecting.

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Speaker 6: You know, we have all these restricted free agents out there.

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Speaker 6: Jonathan KAMINGA Josh Giddy. There's a group and the problem

881
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 6: is there's no money out there in free agency for

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Speaker 6: a team to come in and give an offer sheet.

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Speaker 9: Here.

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Speaker 6: You know, we'll we'll see what happens on the on

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Speaker 6: the trade front free agency. You know, we had a

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00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 6: lot come off the board on Monday. Here, we might

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Speaker 6: be done by the end of the week. Free agency wise,

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Speaker 6: it's it's the the downside of the ability to negotiate

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Speaker 6: with your own players at once the finals ends.

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Speaker 2: If you were going to let's say one of your children,

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Speaker 2: you're going to show and tell, bringing in my dad,

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Speaker 2: he's going to explain the NBA aprons. So it's career day,

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Speaker 2: but you were going to explain it to let's say

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Speaker 2: fifth graders. Yeah, treat me like a fifth grader and

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Speaker 2: my audience and explain the famous NBA aprons.

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Speaker 3: That second apron here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, I wish we would come up with

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Speaker 6: a different name, right it's a it's a punitive restriction

899
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Speaker 6: that once you exceed it, Okay, once you exceed this level,

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Speaker 6: you're all right, let's let's all right. I'm gonna talk

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Speaker 6: like a fifth grader. You have a toy box of toys. Okay,

902
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 6: you have twenty twenty of your best toys. Okay, once

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Speaker 6: you exceed this restriction, this level, I'm going to go

904
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Speaker 6: in the toy box, Dan, and I'm going to take

905
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Speaker 6: fifteen out of those away. But I'm still gonna give

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Speaker 6: you five of your best toys okay, but I'm taking

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Speaker 6: those other fifteen away.

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Speaker 5: Here.

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Speaker 6: Now you have less toys to play with, but they're

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Speaker 6: still pretty good. But you won't be able to add

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Speaker 6: any more toys to that here. And that's what the

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00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 6: league is saying. We're going to allow you to keep

913
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Speaker 6: your best, but we're not going to allow you to

914
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Speaker 6: go to Golden State or to Clippers and grab their

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Speaker 6: best player.

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Speaker 5: And what it does is it makes you draft well,

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Speaker 5: it makes.

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Speaker 6: You prioritize keeping your own players. If you don't like Phoenix,

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Speaker 6: who's been a second Apron team and had three high

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Speaker 6: level players and they don't have they have three shiny toys,

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Speaker 6: but not really anything else good to that roster. It

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Speaker 6: really hurts you, like Oklahoma City's is going to be.

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Speaker 6: If they're a team that can defeat the second apron

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Speaker 6: as we.

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Speaker 5: Call it, they're the ones that can do it.

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Speaker 6: Because if Shay chet Jalen Williams four first round picks

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Speaker 6: next year, all these young players, when player, when lou

928
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Speaker 6: Dort gets expensive, Cason Wallace, Mike will probably replace himhen

929
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Speaker 6: Isaiah Hartenstein replaces him. Thomas Sorber, who they drafted, replaces him.

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Speaker 6: So you can keep on turning the wheel.

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Speaker 3: There no thank you. Thank you for treating us as I've.

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Speaker 5: Never used that. I've never used that in now. I

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Speaker 5: just made that one up.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you could do it to Greenee, you know, because

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Speaker 2: I Greene doesn't understand the second aprin So maybe you

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Speaker 2: just treat him like a fifth grader.

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Speaker 3: Have fun tonight, Bobby, thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 5: Thanks to that. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Bobby Marks