WEBVTT - The Big March Q&A: Part 1

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid verbal ll that for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Rubinstein, Sir, Yeah, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>watched Encanto and went to sleep. Wow, that was a

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful little evening for me. So I feel great.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, welcome back in.

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<v Speaker 3>It's great to have you with us and vibrant, yeah

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<v Speaker 3>and ready to attack. Just a meaty slate of questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>We got from the verballer hood very excited to do this,

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<v Speaker 3>not only in one part, but two parts. Second part.

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<v Speaker 1>As you said, we'll.

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<v Speaker 1>We're excited. Yes, I don't know what every option means,

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<v Speaker 1>get to some questions. Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm ready, let's dive. He right, I got my sound.

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<v Speaker 2>But you name it.

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<v Speaker 3>where we going first?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's start here. I'm gonna give priority to

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<v Speaker 1>our premium elite, you know, certified verbalers. We've got a

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<v Speaker 1>group of alphas here that are asking us questions, so

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<v Speaker 1>they get priority. Last year, Jen asks the over under

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan's win total was seven and a half. They're twelve wins,

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<v Speaker 1>surprised a lot of people. Which teams do you think

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<v Speaker 1>are going to surprise everyone this year, either with far

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<v Speaker 1>more wins than are expected or with far fewer than expected.

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<v Speaker 1>And for the record, we are answering or attempting to

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<v Speaker 1>answer this question before springball, before summer, before injuries, before

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<v Speaker 1>any late transfers, coaching moves, anything like that. So to you,

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<v Speaker 1>what qualifies a team as a surprise, like somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>is expected to be bad expected to be good, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>And what are the pathways that let's stay positive at

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<v Speaker 1>first that a team can outperform the conventional wisdom of

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<v Speaker 1>their future.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I mean again, you said it. It's March

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<v Speaker 3>the tenth, as most people listen to this show or

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<v Speaker 3>this part of this show, so it's before springball. There

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<v Speaker 3>will probably be another wave of transfers at some point,

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<v Speaker 3>just not going to stop. So that's another thing that

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<v Speaker 3>will we'll need to factor in at some point, but

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<v Speaker 3>at least at present March the tenth. One thing that

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<v Speaker 3>I think we can use as a guide is returning production,

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<v Speaker 3>which teams are bringing back a lot. So on the

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<v Speaker 3>show that we did on Tuesday, we talked a lot

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<v Speaker 3>about Stanford. Stanford went three to nine last year. Stanford's

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<v Speaker 3>road schedule in twenty twenty two is in all that optimal. However,

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<v Speaker 3>they're like third in the nation with respect to returning production. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a team that is of interest to me. I

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<v Speaker 3>could see that happening. Another team that kind of falls

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<v Speaker 3>into the same category as Florida State. Florida State brings

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<v Speaker 3>a lot back. Florida State didn't make the Bowl game,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, relative to last year. I think Florida State's

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<v Speaker 3>got to be better than they were a year ago,

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<v Speaker 3>but what is the expectation. We haven't seen over unders yet,

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<v Speaker 3>so we're kind of flying blind.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>From that standpoint, Stanford I think is an easy candidate.

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<v Speaker 3>Florida State I think will continue to improve. That's another

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<v Speaker 3>the one that jumps out to me as for teams

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<v Speaker 3>beyond that that could maybe exceed expectations. I'm actually quite

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<v Speaker 3>interested in Pitt. Pitt, of course loses Canny Pickett. Canny

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<v Speaker 3>Picktbull most likely going to be a first round pick.

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<v Speaker 3>Mark Whipple goes over to Nebraska, but Pitt still has

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<v Speaker 3>Jordan Addison.

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<v Speaker 1>They brought over.

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<v Speaker 3>Keaton's Slovas, who I think could be a good plug

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<v Speaker 3>and play guy. Sure, I can pull up Pitt's schedule,

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<v Speaker 3>but my guess is that it's fairly workable.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's of.

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<v Speaker 3>Interest to me. Are there any of that jump out

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<v Speaker 3>to you?

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes teams who lost a quarterback early and have a

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<v Speaker 1>record that was not necessarily representative of their ceiling of

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<v Speaker 1>their potential, like Boston College with Phil dri Khovic, who

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<v Speaker 1>I know because of his size and physical ceiling, has

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<v Speaker 1>garnered some NFL draft talk for next year's cycle, and

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<v Speaker 1>they finished what six and six and almost pulled off

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<v Speaker 1>wins against good two very good teams like Clemson with

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Dennis gross Out, like guys that shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>winning those types of games. So this is year now,

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<v Speaker 1>year three of Jeff Hafley. I think he just got

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<v Speaker 1>the extension, so right, it's returning production. And it's also

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<v Speaker 1>to me, a team that even Miami, Right, Miami, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't really have a great concept for, but they certainly

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<v Speaker 1>look like a different team offensively once Tyler van Dijk. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, different staff, different offense presumably, but that to

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<v Speaker 1>me is interesting when a team made a quarterback change

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<v Speaker 1>that paid off in big ways and just in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of teams developing and improving in a sort of natural state,

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<v Speaker 1>like I think Michigan State could fall off because they

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<v Speaker 1>had some breaks, and I still think they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be very good. But eleven win good, I think, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's with the Bowl game. I think that's asking a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Indiana made a lot of wholesale changes. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they're as bad as their zero to nine in the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Ten record might indicate, and just I mean, they

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<v Speaker 1>lost a ton of transfers. We'll see, but that's another team.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's that's due Nebraska. Obviously a lot has

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<v Speaker 1>been talked about how they are better than their record

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<v Speaker 1>indicated last year. Well, we talked about that on the

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<v Speaker 1>three and nine episode. Other teams that are going to

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<v Speaker 1>make significant jumps in that same way, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan went from seven and a half to twelve. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually think Michigan's do to fall off a bit back

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<v Speaker 1>in the other direction. Yeah, yeah, we talked about lost

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<v Speaker 1>lost a ton of key pieces on defense. They lose

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Gaddis and now look, they could be getting better

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<v Speaker 1>at quarterback full time with JJ McCarthy if that move,

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<v Speaker 1>which is looking like it's going to be the case, happens.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Arizona State has the makings of an

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<v Speaker 1>eight win program after what they've lost both in the

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<v Speaker 1>on the coaching staff and now at quarterback with Jayden Daniels.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Arizona is a team that could jump up

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<v Speaker 1>and make some more noise as a one and eleven program.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they could win four or five. He's just

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<v Speaker 1>a portal hard yeah, hit me.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Clemson could be an interesting study here.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Clemson's all over the place for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Continue Yeah, I mean I'm trying to avoid purpose league

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<v Speaker 3>teams that had coaching changes or of new coaches, because frankly,

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<v Speaker 3>that could.

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<v Speaker 1>Go any direction. You have no idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Clemson's interesting because the top guy, Dabostwueeny's still there, but

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of the support staff, top assistants, the ad

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<v Speaker 3>guys went everywhere, and so they're rebuilding that thing from

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<v Speaker 3>the inside out. The season last year was quote unquote underwhelming,

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<v Speaker 3>even though they won ten games whatever. It was so

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<v Speaker 3>still a pretty good team. They had a ton of

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<v Speaker 3>injuries to deal with, but at least on the coaching side,

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to be starting over in many respects, and

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<v Speaker 3>that that, like you said, kind of all over the

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<v Speaker 3>map could go almost any direction.

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<v Speaker 1>Ole Miss is a team that I think could jump

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<v Speaker 1>back a couple games, winning ten games with an experienced quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's the Jackson Dart led team. I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have a terrific offense. But I just think

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<v Speaker 1>there is a margin for err involved with ole Miss.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, they got to ten wins with a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of super close calls, notably that Arkansas game, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be the case every year. Texas A

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<v Speaker 1>and M is interesting to me. Another one of those

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<v Speaker 1>teams that dealt with a very early quarterback injury, and

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<v Speaker 1>for better or worse, doubt Kyle Zada was probably at

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<v Speaker 1>best an eight win quarterback, which is where Texas A

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<v Speaker 1>and M finished. They now add Max Johnson. They've got

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<v Speaker 1>interesting young options. You know, Haines King is presumably healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>and with what they've done these past couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>on the recruiting trail, they should be deeper than ever.

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<v Speaker 1>And who did Texas A and M early on? I

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<v Speaker 1>think they have Miami. I think they host Miami. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's actually a terrific time probably to get

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<v Speaker 1>a newly coached and a new look Miami team, and

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Field's a pretty difficult place to play generally speaking.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they could pop up two or three oh yeah, wins.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, that's a perfect segue into Melty's question,

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<v Speaker 3>which you've got high made. Next, here's the question, if

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<v Speaker 3>you got a pair of tickets to any regular season

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<v Speaker 3>game this year, which would you go to and who

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<v Speaker 3>would you take? Okay, so the friends matchup and spouses

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<v Speaker 3>and children not allowed, So all right, I am approaching

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<v Speaker 3>this from the standpoint of low hanging fruit, low hanging

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<v Speaker 3>fruit being big neutral site games. Now, I know where

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<v Speaker 3>you're aut on neutral site games. I'm with you, but

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<v Speaker 3>we've got some really good non conference games early that

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<v Speaker 3>are played at neutral sites. The one that I want

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<v Speaker 3>to talk to you about, well, the two that I

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<v Speaker 3>want to talk to you about are both on Labor

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<v Speaker 3>Day weekend. The first is the Chick fil A kickoff

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<v Speaker 3>game between your Oregon Ducks and Georgia. I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>just going to be a cool matchup. I'd love to

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<v Speaker 3>see it. I'm excited about that game. We may go

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<v Speaker 3>to that game, I don't know. Secondly, the next day,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess it would be on Sunday, September the fourth,

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<v Speaker 3>Florida State versus LSU. They played in the Superdome. That

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<v Speaker 3>could be a hell of a time. Like if you

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<v Speaker 3>and I are just like going without any kind of

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<v Speaker 3>you know, spouses or kids with us, NOL is a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good place to go. So I'm looking at that

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<v Speaker 3>one and I'm thinking, all right, LC's got a new

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<v Speaker 3>new coach, no expectations, Florida State's going to be loaded

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<v Speaker 3>for bear. They bring a fair amount back. I think

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<v Speaker 3>they'll be better based on the question we just answered

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<v Speaker 3>that could be interesting. I kind of think that might

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<v Speaker 3>be my answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not going to a neutral side game. You

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<v Speaker 1>give me an opportunity to go to Atlanta or New

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<v Speaker 1>Orleans and watch it in an NFL stadium. I would

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<v Speaker 1>love to go to Georgia, Oregon, and I may go

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<v Speaker 1>to Georgia, Oregon. But if you're gonna give me a

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<v Speaker 1>choice of any of these games, both from an environment

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<v Speaker 1>a location perspective, I just I don't know. We have

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<v Speaker 1>what another Clemson Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio State is in

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<v Speaker 1>Columbus this year, saying MBAMA is in Tuscaloosa. Continue, how

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<v Speaker 1>about Texas against Alabama? But where's that game? Games in Texas?

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<v Speaker 1>Week two? Is it it's in Austin or is it

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<v Speaker 1>at Jerry World? No, it's in Austin. That that might

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<v Speaker 1>be my answer. I'm looking right now. It's week two,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's about September tenth I just looked in Austin.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's September the tenth um.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean yeah, I would. I think that's probably

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<v Speaker 1>my answer. If I get to go to Austin and

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<v Speaker 1>I get to watch that matchup, you have the narrative

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<v Speaker 1>sark and Saban. We presume Quinn yours in his second game.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who Texas has week one. The environment

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<v Speaker 1>at DKR is not the best, but I think it

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<v Speaker 1>should be pretty electric for Bama. Yeah, and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and nine national championship rematch. Yeah. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that that may be more for food and friends I

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<v Speaker 1>have in Austin than anything else. I've been to a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of games already at DKR, so there's no novelty

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<v Speaker 1>factor there. I think that's my answer. Sure, great, excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are we going? Next question.

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<v Speaker 2>Here?

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<v Speaker 1>This is in line with that Cheddar, who is obviously

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<v Speaker 1>an alpha on the Discord server runfoballers dot com. What

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<v Speaker 1>is the matchup that would create the best meal if

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<v Speaker 1>you combine the unique local cuisines from each school, So

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<v Speaker 1>you probably have to either do food and drink or

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<v Speaker 1>entree dessert. So if you were coming up with a

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<v Speaker 1>matchup so you could use okay for beer, you could

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<v Speaker 1>use a number of plays.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, I'm not gonna be good at this one, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just not as well versed in the travel aspect

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<v Speaker 3>of college football, So I understand as you the former

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<v Speaker 3>SI Tour guide. Yeah, so you're gonna have to answer

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<v Speaker 3>this one. I will do my best to tell you

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<v Speaker 3>with grunts and with gunneral sounds what sounds good and

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<v Speaker 3>what doesn't. But I just don't have the local flavor

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<v Speaker 3>like you do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's really difficult to combine foods that would work

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<v Speaker 1>well together. I think there is something I'll go. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be a selfish homer here, I'll go Oregon

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<v Speaker 1>LSU because of both the seafood in both places. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>good seafood in the Pacific Northwest. Obviously your salmon, you

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<v Speaker 1>have your special your guy ducks, right, the huge oyster

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<v Speaker 1>or type things, and you have the Cajun food, and

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<v Speaker 1>you have the beer, and you have the wine. You

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<v Speaker 1>have breweries in Oregon, You've got a wine area if

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<v Speaker 1>you're into wine vintner is that what a wine enthusiast

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<v Speaker 1>is called. And then all the crazy food of Louisiana,

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<v Speaker 1>all the incredible food, your Cajun influence. So that's probably

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<v Speaker 1>my answer that would give us both a good football

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<v Speaker 1>matchup and a good food matchup. You can go across

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<v Speaker 1>the country very easily. You can go you know, Mexican

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<v Speaker 1>food with USC or UCLA, just geographically usc is going

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<v Speaker 1>to give you better Mexican food in that downtown LA area,

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<v Speaker 1>then you're going to get in you know, Westwood. You

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<v Speaker 1>compare that with somewhere that does really good beer.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that's that's probably my dream. And we got that,

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<v Speaker 1>albeit on a neutral site Oregon LSU in like twenty eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>There it is. How about that? Sure?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking like a Wisconsin Ohio state matchup this year

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<v Speaker 3>between the Brats and there are some good breweries in Coloria, Columbus. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>just craft brewery type places. None that I could probably

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<v Speaker 3>name off the top of my head. I think Great Blake,

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<v Speaker 3>Great Lakes Brewing excuse me, is in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, yeah, that's a tough question. You get some

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<v Speaker 1>Jenny's ice cream? Yeah, if you if you really want

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<v Speaker 1>to go dairy heavy with you know, Wisconsin, bringing the

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<v Speaker 1>brots and cheese cards and finish it off with some

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<v Speaker 1>ice cream with Jenny. It's not a sponsor, could be.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there anything you could mix with Skyline Chili in Cincinnati?

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<v Speaker 1>I would prefer not to. That might be last on

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<v Speaker 1>my list. Cincinnati has very good food. I'm not into that,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, No, there's there's a lot of interesting things

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<v Speaker 1>you could do with that answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Just let us know.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a tweet at us with Instagram whatever. Next top

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<v Speaker 1>next question, Frank wants to know who do you think

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<v Speaker 1>will do better over the next few years at their

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<v Speaker 1>new locations. Lincoln Riley or Mario Cristo ball Kay Mario Crystabal.

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<v Speaker 1>Both are top recruiters, improven winners. They're both moving from

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<v Speaker 1>small towns with strong football program to big time beach

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<v Speaker 1>cities with a lot to offer five star kids in

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<v Speaker 1>addition to football. Both enter week conferences, joining historically great

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<v Speaker 1>football brands falling recently. And Dan adds parenthetically the last

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen to seventeen years on on hard times. Yeah, who

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<v Speaker 1>is better set up for? And who do you expect

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<v Speaker 1>to if we return to this question in twenty twenty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty eight, somewhere along there, who has more whatever

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<v Speaker 1>measure of your success ten win seasons, conference crowns, playoff appearances.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm inclined to say Lincoln Riley in usc Okay, I

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<v Speaker 3>am focused primarily right now on the recruiting beat. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>these are two areas of the country that have a

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<v Speaker 3>fertile crescent of sorts when it comes to Crescent High

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<v Speaker 3>School prospects. Yep eh okay, But I feel like USC

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<v Speaker 3>now being kind of the splashy program led by the

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<v Speaker 3>younger guy, Lincoln Riley, I feel like it's going to be.

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<v Speaker 3>It feels like it's going to go a long way

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<v Speaker 3>towards keeping some of those kids home. So I think

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<v Speaker 3>they've got a built in recruiting advantage there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Lincoln.

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<v Speaker 3>Riley, with it with only because he's bringing his own

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<v Speaker 3>guys over from Oklahoma, is going to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>get that thing out of the gate to a hot start,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think he's going to be able to use

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<v Speaker 3>that to propel the program forward. As Frank said, both

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<v Speaker 3>sides of this equation are pretty weak from a conference standpoint,

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<v Speaker 3>Like you've obviously got Clemson to deal with in the ACC.

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<v Speaker 3>You know there are other teams that have gotten better

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<v Speaker 3>in the ACC as well, so maybe a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>more resistance there. But I feel pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>About Lincoln Riley out west. I think my answer is

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<v Speaker 1>Mario Christobal h and I think Miami is more serious

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<v Speaker 1>about poor resources into the program when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>how much money they spent on their staff, when you

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<v Speaker 1>look at what Mario Christobal was able to do in

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<v Speaker 1>bringing up Oregon's resources and commitment to football and building

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<v Speaker 1>out that program. What Lincoln Riley has done in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of staff hires, it doesn't leave me all that excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we comparing staves here? Staves? Well, no, we are

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<v Speaker 1>comparing paths, and we're comparing I mean, look, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>division and conference in which these teams play. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to find and develop a quarterback into a huge

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<v Speaker 1>success and the ability to build up consistent talent and

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<v Speaker 1>depth on the roster. I have no doubt that Lincoln

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<v Speaker 1>Riley is going to continuously find quarterbacks. I have no

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<v Speaker 1>doubt that Lincoln Riley is going to elevate USC's regional

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<v Speaker 1>and national recruiting. My question is can the region perduce

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<v Speaker 1>enough lineman depth for USC to provide confidence in me

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<v Speaker 1>saying yeah, they'll win ten plus games every year when

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<v Speaker 1>USC is just hasn't been that place. Miami hasn't either,

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<v Speaker 1>but their pathway within that division is pretty clear depending

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<v Speaker 1>on what you believe in. In terms of North Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>right now and Brent Prye and Virginia Tech, I just

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<v Speaker 1>the ceiling just seems so much higher for Miami. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>this is in Miami team. How many acc crowns are

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<v Speaker 1>we talking about? I believe that be zero zero? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you are taking a chance with you taking more

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<v Speaker 1>of a risk with with Miami. Mark Chris Ball has

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<v Speaker 1>taken precisely zero teams to the college football Playoff?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? Is that is factually correct in And yeah, Also

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<v Speaker 3>I'd add as a counterpoint, we've heard this song and

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<v Speaker 3>dance on the Miami front before.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course we joked about it. When they hire.

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<v Speaker 3>Cchriyst of Ball, it seems like a race to get

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<v Speaker 3>the most Miami guy possible to coach the program. So

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<v Speaker 3>having him there, Look, I do believe he's a cut

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<v Speaker 3>above what they've had before. He's a known recruiter, he's

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<v Speaker 3>a good coach, he's a good coach. I think he

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<v Speaker 3>will get them going in the right direction. I truly

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<v Speaker 3>honestly believe that. But in terms of who can get

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<v Speaker 3>a program up and running quicker, I think the answer

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<v Speaker 3>there is Lincoln Riley. And I think if you do it,

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<v Speaker 3>I think if you bring Caleb Williams over, if he

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<v Speaker 3>continues to have the success that we believe he'll have,

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<v Speaker 3>or that's just going to feedback into the award of

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<v Speaker 3>the program that that's going to jumpstart that recruiting operation

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<v Speaker 3>and take it to a level that it hasn't been

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<v Speaker 3>at in quite some time.

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<v Speaker 1>And he should have two years of Caleb Williams, whereas

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler van Dyck might only be in Miami for another

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<v Speaker 1>one year. So I am banking on the ACC providing

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<v Speaker 1>for less resistance than the PAC twelve at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>just because Utah exists, just because the talent ceiling of

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<v Speaker 1>Oregon is pretty impressive. Otherwise, I don't know, there's not

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<v Speaker 1>much in the PAC twelve. And Sam could be said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Clemson's not necessarily heading in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 1>I think just Miami right now, I think they can

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<v Speaker 1>build a deeper defense, And to me, that is just

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<v Speaker 1>I think what they what Miami's roster can look like,

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<v Speaker 1>is more impressive than what USC's roster can look like.

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<v Speaker 1>Fair Enough, I'm fair enough one with Mario and Miami

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<v Speaker 1>in the next five years or so. Next question. Ten

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, I could never have imagined we'd be in

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<v Speaker 1>the era of the portal and of players picking schools

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<v Speaker 1>based on nil deals. Yeah, what do you think will

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<v Speaker 1>be the biggest factors shaping the game in twenty thirty two, Ty,

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<v Speaker 1>how old will you be in twenty thirty two?

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<v Speaker 2>Nd about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't want to talk about that that no one is

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<v Speaker 1>talking about now, as Ty would be then a dude

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<v Speaker 1>having entered his sixth decade of life. That's correct, That

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<v Speaker 1>is actually correct. Well, I mean, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Anytime you get a question like this, the answer is

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<v Speaker 3>always in forever lasers, right, of.

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<v Speaker 1>Course, obviously obviously drones, lasers, laser, drones, drone lasers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, I think the answer is lasers. Dan who asked

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<v Speaker 3>the question, Dan, A couple things come to mind, but

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<v Speaker 3>kind of on that same note, technology is definitely shaping.

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<v Speaker 1>The way we view all sports.

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<v Speaker 3>I would expect ten years from now that VR is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a big deal, a much bigger deal

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<v Speaker 3>than it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Think so.

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<v Speaker 3>I think so so in terms of how it shapes

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<v Speaker 3>the game, maybe not on field, but the fan experience.

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<v Speaker 3>I could see going in a direction where VR is

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<v Speaker 3>a thing and how we experience the game at home

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<v Speaker 3>is very much driven by optics, literal optics that we

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<v Speaker 3>put on our head. I think that could be a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to hold out hope that in ten years

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<v Speaker 3>we can put a chip in a ball and we

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<v Speaker 3>don't have to leave it to Dean Blandino or guys

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere in a truck with eight K televisions to figure

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<v Speaker 3>out did the ball cross the line or not. We've

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<v Speaker 3>got to be able to put the chip in the ball, Dan,

0:24:00.520 --> 0:24:02.280
<v Speaker 3>got to be able to do that. Somebody can do

0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:06.720
<v Speaker 3>that now. I gotta believe that's going to be one

0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:09.119
<v Speaker 3>of the next revolutions that comes over the next ten years.

0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:12.320
<v Speaker 1>We could have robot umpires for baseball, and yet we don't.

0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:14.960
<v Speaker 1>They shot that down, right, I know, I saw that.

0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:15.600
<v Speaker 1>That's a bummer.

0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:18.720
<v Speaker 3>They shot that down. Robots is another answer in line

0:24:18.760 --> 0:24:22.119
<v Speaker 3>with the lasers. Yeah, will we see any robotics, Dan.

0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:27.439
<v Speaker 1>I think the organization of the sport is going to

0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:29.399
<v Speaker 1>look a whole lot different. I think things are going

0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:33.080
<v Speaker 1>to continue to consolidate. College football has shown itself and

0:24:33.119 --> 0:24:35.720
<v Speaker 1>a number all major sports have shown themselves to be

0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:41.239
<v Speaker 1>entities that don't move backwards. And so if we are

0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:43.920
<v Speaker 1>talking about a sport in which conferences are getting bigger

0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:47.520
<v Speaker 1>and are focusing on television money, then things are going

0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:51.200
<v Speaker 1>to further consolidate. The idea of college football. For better

0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:53.920
<v Speaker 1>or worse. I say, for worse has been to chase

0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:56.159
<v Speaker 1>the NFL model, So I think we're going to end

0:24:56.200 --> 0:24:58.240
<v Speaker 1>up with fewer conferences. I think we're going to end

0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:00.600
<v Speaker 1>up with a much more consolidated sport chasing more and

0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:03.440
<v Speaker 1>more TV money. The Playoff will continue to expand. I

0:25:03.440 --> 0:25:04.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know the exact year. I don't know if it's

0:25:04.800 --> 0:25:06.800
<v Speaker 1>by twenty thirty two, whatever, we know it's going to

0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:10.240
<v Speaker 1>expand at least to six, eight, ten, twelve games before then.

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:14.800
<v Speaker 1>But I think there will be there will be a

0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:18.600
<v Speaker 1>reckoning at a certain point where a bubble will burst

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 1>and there will have to be a conversation around Okay,

0:25:23.800 --> 0:25:26.000
<v Speaker 1>college football is now a national sport, do we have

0:25:26.200 --> 0:25:29.040
<v Speaker 1>a national governing body? That to me is going to

0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:31.200
<v Speaker 1>be the biggest change. I think by twenty thirty two

0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:35.040
<v Speaker 1>there will be a national governing body in place, not

0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 1>necessarily in the way that the College Football Playoff governing

0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:40.800
<v Speaker 1>body exists, because it's not really a governing body, just

0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:44.679
<v Speaker 1>an organizational grouping. I think there is going to be

0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:49.600
<v Speaker 1>a fundamental shift between the haves and have nots, and

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:52.360
<v Speaker 1>there will be a governing body that is saying, okay,

0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 1>these are the rules be it about nil, be it

0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:59.920
<v Speaker 1>about any sort of payment, be it about actual rules,

0:26:00.000 --> 0:26:03.440
<v Speaker 1>beat about scholarships, be about scheduling. I think there will

0:26:03.480 --> 0:26:10.520
<v Speaker 1>be a major shift in how the sport is organized

0:26:10.520 --> 0:26:12.639
<v Speaker 1>and governed, and that there will be a group. I

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:14.320
<v Speaker 1>don't know if there's a commissioner. I don't know if

0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:16.360
<v Speaker 1>there's a board. I don't know if there's some sort

0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:20.600
<v Speaker 1>of consortium of conference commissioners that come together and make

0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 1>these make the rules for the sport. But I think

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:26.720
<v Speaker 1>we are heading in that direction where college football sees

0:26:26.720 --> 0:26:29.480
<v Speaker 1>the amount of money on the table and says, if

0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:31.480
<v Speaker 1>we can get our act together and turn this into

0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:37.560
<v Speaker 1>more of a machine, turn this into a full organization,

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:41.720
<v Speaker 1>then we can do better financially and we can spread

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 1>the resources around more effectively. So that's my answer.

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean the money aspect here I think has

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:51.440
<v Speaker 3>potential to change a lot. Now, at time of recording,

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 3>it is March, it is twenty twenty two. Reportedly EA

0:26:57.119 --> 0:27:01.159
<v Speaker 3>Sports is dropping the new college football game in twenty three. Now.

0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:04.520
<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen that confirmed, but that's the report that

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<v Speaker 3>I think could actually drive change in a pretty big way,

0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:13.440
<v Speaker 3>and especially with respect to things like nil, and especially

0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:17.239
<v Speaker 3>with respect to representation for the players and where that

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:21.440
<v Speaker 3>whole movement goes next, Because suddenly we're talking about a

0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:25.520
<v Speaker 3>pretty big source of income for everybody, sort of a

0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:29.720
<v Speaker 3>calm denominator, if you will, How that is handled, how

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 3>that affects things on the NIL front moving forward, It's

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 3>gonna be really interesting to see. But could it drive

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:37.679
<v Speaker 3>us to the place could it drive the sport to

0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 3>a place where we're talking about things like commissioners, where

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 3>we're talking about things like collective bargaining.

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:45.439
<v Speaker 3>I might be getting a little bit over over my

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:47.920
<v Speaker 3>skis here, but that I think could be a pretty

0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:50.719
<v Speaker 3>big moment for us as we examine this question over

0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:51.439
<v Speaker 3>the next decade.

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:54.199
<v Speaker 1>I also don't think and I think this is and

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 1>just from talking to people, I don't think prospects maybe

0:27:58.359 --> 0:27:59.959
<v Speaker 1>the top of the top of the top, with all

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:04.840
<v Speaker 1>things being equal, make a decision that heavily weighs ANIL stuff.

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:09.720
<v Speaker 1>But I still think the schools that have the most

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 1>money are already the schools are generally really good who

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:17.200
<v Speaker 1>have those huge donor bases. Look, Texas hasn't been good

0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 1>in quite some time, and they have that donor base,

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 1>and they could organize and they could, you know, put

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 1>together these collectives that pay top recruits whatever X amount

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 1>of dollars. But also, you still have to want to

0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 1>play for Texas. You still have to want to play

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 1>for Tennessee or Florida State or USC or any of

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:37.640
<v Speaker 1>these places that are sort of trying to use NIL

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 1>in a big way. And so I still don't think

0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 1>somebody is going to exclusively go to a place because

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 1>of short term earning. I still think that we are

0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 1>we are selling kids and their intellect and decision making

0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 1>abilities a little bit short when we assume that that's

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent of the process. So I think I

0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 1>think specifically NIL is going to get a lot more organized.

0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 1>And we talked about this with Matt Brown. You can

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:05.719
<v Speaker 1>go back and listen to that podcast from a few

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 1>weeks ago. He was excellent in that this is still

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 1>the infancy of the name image likeness era, and so

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:18.160
<v Speaker 1>markets will correct themselves, will better organize themselves. And you know,

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:20.560
<v Speaker 1>far be it for me to just assume major sports

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 1>knows what it's doing, because you look across a major

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 1>sport knows what it's doing. You look across the Olympics,

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 1>you look across baseball, and the NFL like there's no

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:31.640
<v Speaker 1>rhyme or reason to anything. I think there is going

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:35.960
<v Speaker 1>to be a reckoning with gambling. That's interesting one.

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we got a question about that. Of course, it's

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:40.800
<v Speaker 3>in the news right now. My hunch has got a

0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:43.080
<v Speaker 3>lot of folks listening have seeing the Calvin Ridley news

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 3>and where things stand with him being in the NFL

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 3>and gambling and that whole disaster that we're going to

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 3>see play out in real time. But gambling money is

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 3>a thing.

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:53.720
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 3>Will colleges more openly embrace it, will conferences, will the

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 3>playoff more open embrace it?

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:02.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't know.

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 3>If the Gamba companies had their drugs, they would it

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 3>would be a tighter relationship. You might have logos on uniforms.

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't think we'll get there, but it definitely has

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 3>the potential to, I think, affect things in a pretty

0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:16.480
<v Speaker 3>big way.

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 1>Here's the certainty, and this is, you know, a couple

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:23.400
<v Speaker 1>of days, three or four days after the Calvin Ridley

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:25.719
<v Speaker 1>being suspended for a year for betting, what you say,

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>fifteen hundred bucks on parlays NFL parlays including the Falcons

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 1>to win. So he wasn't betting against his own team,

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 1>which I guess is something. But the certainty, the one

0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent is going to be a wife, a nephew,

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 1>a son, a brother, a parent of somebody within a

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 1>program having inside information putting ten thousand dollars on a

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 1>game and it being traced back that and I'm fully

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 1>making this up that PJ. Flex nephew puts eighty five

0:30:56.720 --> 0:31:00.080
<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars down on the Gophers because they surprise and

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:02.360
<v Speaker 1>got back a quarterback who had been injured. And nobody

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:07.280
<v Speaker 1>knows this or that get has intel that a key player,

0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 1>usually a quarterback, sometimes a running back is out with

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 1>a surprise injury. Is you know, he was hungover and

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 1>snapped his ankle trying to jump over a fire hydrant

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 1>or something the night before a game. And there's going

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>to be suspicious money pushed around a game that will

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:27.680
<v Speaker 1>be traced back to a big name coach. That to

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 1>me with how easy it is to gamble, and Calvin

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Ridley did this on his phone, correct, yep. That is

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be too enticing for somebody with inside

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 1>information and it's going to be connected to a coach

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>or a strength coach or whoever, or a you know,

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 1>a girlfriend or whatever of a player. We'll be like, ooh,

0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:50.040
<v Speaker 1>this is a little bit fishy and too suspicious, and

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be further investigated, and there might be

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:55.719
<v Speaker 1>repercussions involved somehow, That to me, by twenty thirty two,

0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:58.560
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent will happen maybe by the end of

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two. Next question, Next question, nor Norden Cam.

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if Nordon Cam sure from Instagram? How

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:14.480
<v Speaker 1>can Tennessee prepare its defense for the workload of always

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:17.840
<v Speaker 1>being on the field. I assume that's sort of for better,

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 1>for worse and Hendon Hooker's coming back. Tennessee's offensive footprint

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:26.960
<v Speaker 1>per bell c they had the number one pace in

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:30.960
<v Speaker 1>college football last season, so for better worse meaning they'll

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 1>go three and out quickly, or they'll bomb it down

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 1>the field and score quickly. And I don't anticipate that

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:39.720
<v Speaker 1>style changing anytime soon. How do you account for that, coach, Tie?

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 3>If I'm not a coach, I'm a podcaster. Yeah, we're

0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 3>talking about true class on grass here. With that Tennessee

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 3>offense number one pace first off, one way that you

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 3>can help account for it is by making your offense

0:32:56.200 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 3>as efficient as possible. If you're going to be on

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 3>the field for a very short period of time, make

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 3>sure you get the most bang for the buck. So

0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 3>any way that you can make the offense better. If

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 3>that's what you're saying, score points, score points, right, I'm

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:10.480
<v Speaker 3>saying quite literally, score points. If you're going to be

0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:14.360
<v Speaker 3>running NASCAR offense. That that's the first thing. The second thing,

0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 3>I guess comes down to the type of players that

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 3>you're recruiting, the types of guys that you're putting out there.

0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 3>All you gotta do is watch the NFL combine to

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 3>realize that athletes are a little bit different now than

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:26.840
<v Speaker 3>they were ten years ago. There are so many more

0:33:26.880 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 3>guys that are out there now that kind of fit

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:33.400
<v Speaker 3>that hybrid mold than what we'd see a decade ago.

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 3>If you're tennessee any guys like that, any guys that

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 3>can be versatile, that can play a bunch of different positions,

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 3>that you know have stamina. You can't really afford to

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 3>go out there with three hundred and fifty pound defensive lineman.

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Those guys are going to be guessed.

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 3>So you need to be able to build a defense

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 3>that I think has much more of a hybrid look

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 3>and feel to it, so that you can get your

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:55.760
<v Speaker 3>guys in space and they're not going to die when

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:56.360
<v Speaker 3>they're on the field.

0:33:56.360 --> 0:34:00.760
<v Speaker 1>The entire game one slow down a little bit, fully,

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 1>not fully, have different speeds. There was an old Chip

0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Kelly story that you know, as fast as Oregon was

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:09.920
<v Speaker 1>playing when they really started playing with that kind of tempo,

0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:12.360
<v Speaker 1>they had red, yellow and green. They had green for

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 1>when it was go go, go, go go. They had

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:15.759
<v Speaker 1>yellow when it was like hurry up and then get

0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:17.960
<v Speaker 1>to the line and look over so the other team

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:21.440
<v Speaker 1>still can't substitute. And then a much slower like milking

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 1>the clock type pace. So Tennessee with what little Josh

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 1>hipel inherited said, Okay, one of our advantages if we

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 1>don't have a great offensive line is going to be

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:34.840
<v Speaker 1>the speed at which we play, because that will gas

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:36.880
<v Speaker 1>teams and that will mitigate any issues we have along

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 1>the offensive line. And they developed running backs. You know,

0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 1>they were able to play and win in different ways.

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:43.239
<v Speaker 1>Tyon Evans came on in the middle of the year,

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:45.880
<v Speaker 1>of course, and they were bombing it downfield and it

0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:48.399
<v Speaker 1>worked really, really well. Once Hendon Hooker took over as

0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:51.759
<v Speaker 1>the full time starting quarterback. Here's what you can do.

0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:56.239
<v Speaker 1>You can the most difficult and most obvious answer is

0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:59.840
<v Speaker 1>recruit a super talented and deep defense. You just rotate

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:02.839
<v Speaker 1>in and out, keep them fresh, and then you can

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:05.799
<v Speaker 1>get off the field quicker because you're constantly rotating in

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:08.959
<v Speaker 1>fresh legs. That's what Georgia was able to do last year.

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Pretty hard to replicate, pretty hard to replicate. And Georgia

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:14.120
<v Speaker 1>didn't have an offense that played with the pace that

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Tennessee's played with, right, but they were constantly bringing guys

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:20.400
<v Speaker 1>in and out of the game. This was when you

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:22.080
<v Speaker 1>recruit the way that Georgia did in a few years

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 1>leading up to twenty twenty one. You can do that.

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Another way is you just got to get off the field.

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:28.480
<v Speaker 1>And how do you get off the field, or you

0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:31.400
<v Speaker 1>get off the field with turnovers. There's a randomness to that.

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:33.959
<v Speaker 1>But you can teach a defense to give it self

0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:38.520
<v Speaker 1>the best chance at generating turnovers, and you know preaching strips, preaching,

0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:41.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, hands in passing lanes to get the ball

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:43.759
<v Speaker 1>into the air. You can look at the teams and

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:46.960
<v Speaker 1>the coordinators and assistants who have been a part of defense,

0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:50.640
<v Speaker 1>a defense that have been especially good at getting off

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:54.440
<v Speaker 1>the field on third down, especially good at fielding defenses

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:56.799
<v Speaker 1>that have high three and out percentages, and that those

0:35:56.840 --> 0:35:59.880
<v Speaker 1>all those numbers are readily available. And you look at

0:35:59.880 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 1>the teams who are able to even without a ton

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:05.239
<v Speaker 1>of talent, maybe you look at the FCS level, maybe

0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 1>you look at you know, G five level, whatever, the

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:12.920
<v Speaker 1>teams who are able to force the an uncharacteristically low

0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:17.719
<v Speaker 1>completion percentage from quarterbacks right that they're able to generate confusion,

0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:19.960
<v Speaker 1>that they're able to sew, you know, to get that

0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:23.560
<v Speaker 1>extra second or two seconds that that makes a quarterback hesitate.

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:27.239
<v Speaker 1>Find those guys. And so if you are fully dedicated

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:29.920
<v Speaker 1>to playing with that kind of pace, you need to

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 1>be dedicated to robust rotation and finding a coach who

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:39.319
<v Speaker 1>is especially adept at confusion. That to me is how

0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:39.759
<v Speaker 1>you do it.

0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:41.040
<v Speaker 2>Do we think hypel can do that?

0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Yes? Yeah, I think if Tennessee has its affairs in

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:52.359
<v Speaker 1>order more so than usual, that they are not going

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:56.439
<v Speaker 1>to be outbid for assistant coaches, then assistant may choose

0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:58.480
<v Speaker 1>to go elsewhere who has options. But I don't think

0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:00.799
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be a money thing. I think the

0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 1>more that they win, the more interest they're going to

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:06.239
<v Speaker 1>generate from regional talent. We've seen that they're not going

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 1>to be outbid from an nil perspective, as the collective

0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:12.720
<v Speaker 1>has allegedly come together to pool together money to compete

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:16.239
<v Speaker 1>on the recruiting trail. So I think Josh Hipel is

0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:19.239
<v Speaker 1>all in on running both a modern offense and a

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:22.279
<v Speaker 1>modern program. So I don't know if that results in

0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 1>ten to eleven wins seasons more often than not, but

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:28.240
<v Speaker 1>I think Tennessee is trying to give itself every chance

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:31.359
<v Speaker 1>in the world to do that. We'll see what they

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:33.359
<v Speaker 1>end up at a quarterback. That's going to be huge

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:36.120
<v Speaker 1>because they're competing with some of the best nationally. But

0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to be an especially attractive offensive

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 1>style that will attract top quarterbacks in the years to come.

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:45.560
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, the defense thing is going to remain a question.

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:48.480
<v Speaker 1>You need to stay out in front and be innovative

0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:51.879
<v Speaker 1>and really look at the guys who consistently get their

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:53.240
<v Speaker 1>own defenses off the field.

0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:56.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and to that point, Dan, if you're talking about

0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:58.920
<v Speaker 3>things like turnovers, we're talking about havoc rate, right, We're

0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:01.120
<v Speaker 3>talking about creating place is when the defense is on

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:03.680
<v Speaker 3>the field to try and maybe tilt the scales in

0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 3>your favor. One of the factors that I think you know,

0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:09.360
<v Speaker 3>we had talked about at some point or another. Tennessee's

0:38:09.400 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 3>defense was pretty good this year, but Tennessee as a

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:13.080
<v Speaker 3>blitzing team was.

0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Not necessarily where it needed to be.

0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:16.920
<v Speaker 3>So, right, if you're talking about this equation where your

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:19.360
<v Speaker 3>defense is always on the field, your offense is only

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 3>on the field for a small percentage of the time,

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:23.840
<v Speaker 3>you got to get the most out of those blitzes.

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:27.120
<v Speaker 3>That's one area for improvement for Tennessee in twenty two

0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:27.560
<v Speaker 3>and beyond.

0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:31.600
<v Speaker 1>The good thing about Tennessee in year one was that

0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:35.360
<v Speaker 1>their special teams was also pretty good. Yeah, And so

0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:37.960
<v Speaker 1>when you talk about the hidden yards and what you

0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:41.880
<v Speaker 1>force teams into, if you are forcing bad field position

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot because of touchbacks from kickoffs and deep punts

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:50.879
<v Speaker 1>and sound you know coverage, and you know guys staying

0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:54.440
<v Speaker 1>in their lanes and making tackles where they should, you're

0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:56.400
<v Speaker 1>giving yourself every chance in the world to get off

0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 1>the field. If you're pinning teams pretty consistently, and also

0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:02.360
<v Speaker 1>if you're making special teams that result in short fields

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:04.560
<v Speaker 1>for your offense. If you're blocking kicks, so whatever, if

0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 1>you're doing what it takes. In special teams, you also

0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:10.040
<v Speaker 1>change the calculus a little bit, because all of a sudden,

0:39:10.040 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 1>you're up fourteen to three, and a team who's not

0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:14.600
<v Speaker 1>used to playing from behind and doesn't necessarily have an

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:17.600
<v Speaker 1>offense built to play from behind suddenly chucking the ball

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:19.879
<v Speaker 1>a lot and a lot more than usual, and that's

0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:22.040
<v Speaker 1>stopping the clock, and that's getting their own offense off

0:39:22.040 --> 0:39:24.360
<v Speaker 1>the field. So I think there are a lot of

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:27.400
<v Speaker 1>things you can do on the margins, and honestly, I

0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:30.080
<v Speaker 1>think Tennessee will give itself every chance to do so.

0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:32.280
<v Speaker 1>They are one of the few programs that, even without

0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of recent success, will attempt to spend their

0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:39.920
<v Speaker 1>way to success, which is I think it's better than

0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 1>not so here here. I think there you have our answer.

0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Mean Joe.

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:49.440
<v Speaker 1>A oh, that's a different mean Joe than I was expecting.

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Different Mean Joe is West Virginia in trouble number one

0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:58.759
<v Speaker 1>for transfers in the portal. I can't confirm that. I

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:01.440
<v Speaker 1>did go to their transfer page on twenty four to seven,

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot of WVU and then an arrow

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 1>pointing elsewhere and not as much pointing towards WVU from elsewhere.

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:18.439
<v Speaker 1>Is West Virginia in your mind in trouble under Neil Brown?

0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:23.040
<v Speaker 3>Well, if we harken back to the returning production thing

0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:27.800
<v Speaker 3>that I mentioned before, yea, West Virginia is, Yeah, they're

0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:30.799
<v Speaker 3>looking for people. They're looking for people who could come

0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 3>in and run things. It's going to be a lot

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:38.799
<v Speaker 3>of new faces, especially on offense for West Virginia. I

0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:42.040
<v Speaker 3>kind of don't know directionally which way this program's going,

0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:46.760
<v Speaker 3>and I've struggled with that over the last two seasons,

0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:50.879
<v Speaker 3>especially last season. Twenty twenty was moan, but twenty twenty one,

0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 3>you know.

0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Was sort of all over the place.

0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:56.520
<v Speaker 3>Still have a little bit of PTSD from that bowl game.

0:40:57.400 --> 0:40:59.919
<v Speaker 3>The bowl game against Minnesota, what was at eighteen to six?

0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:03.799
<v Speaker 3>Eighteen to six, Yep, it's a really bad offensive showing there.

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:06.479
<v Speaker 3>The reason that I struggle with West Virginia is because

0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 3>there are moments where you see that level of effort

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:12.879
<v Speaker 3>that you expect. Right there was a one score get

0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:15.680
<v Speaker 3>one score loss, what they lose by three points on.

0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:16.640
<v Speaker 1>The road to Oklahoma.

0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma was sort.

0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:21.000
<v Speaker 3>Of in disarray early, but still you know you're looking

0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:23.440
<v Speaker 3>at that game thinking well, geez, they lost sixteen thirteen.

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:26.920
<v Speaker 3>It must be doing something right, especially on defense. There

0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:30.360
<v Speaker 3>were other games they beat Iowa State, They beat Iowa

0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:32.120
<v Speaker 3>followed that up with what what do they follow up

0:41:32.160 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 3>the Iowa State win with like scoring three against Oklahoma State?

0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:38.479
<v Speaker 3>They lost by twenty one Oklahoma State at home. Yeah,

0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:40.960
<v Speaker 3>so it's just sort of been all over the mat.

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:44.360
<v Speaker 3>I beat Texas, right, Texas wasn't any great win, but

0:41:45.040 --> 0:41:50.240
<v Speaker 3>like they're just there's not enough consistency there in terms

0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:52.160
<v Speaker 3>of when they're getting their wins or when they're not

0:41:52.160 --> 0:41:53.960
<v Speaker 3>getting their wins, and that scares me a little bit.

0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:56.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that I don't know if we've

0:41:56.520 --> 0:42:02.359
<v Speaker 3>seen that consistency on the uptick in the time that

0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:05.919
<v Speaker 3>Neil Brown's been in Morgantown. Right, And as you're trying

0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:08.200
<v Speaker 3>to build something and directionally just get it going in

0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:11.240
<v Speaker 3>a good way, like you would hope that you start

0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:13.680
<v Speaker 3>to see something that's just a little bit more reliable

0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:17.200
<v Speaker 3>across the board. And that's what frightens me. That we

0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:18.080
<v Speaker 3>can go into numbers.

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:18.800
<v Speaker 1>We've got all the numbers.

0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:20.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm sure you've got the same stuff in front

0:42:20.400 --> 0:42:21.560
<v Speaker 3>of you that I have in front of me. But

0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:24.920
<v Speaker 3>the consistency aspect of this is what really frightens me.

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:32.520
<v Speaker 1>So West Virginia is in a really difficult place. So, okay,

0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:35.560
<v Speaker 1>West Virginia plays in a conference that it is not

0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:40.040
<v Speaker 1>in a largely geographic footprint of. So you go to

0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:42.400
<v Speaker 1>teams on the you go to you know, high schools

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:44.200
<v Speaker 1>on the east coast in the southeast, and you say,

0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:47.680
<v Speaker 1>come come play at West Virginia. We'll see you in Lubbock,

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:50.799
<v Speaker 1>We'll see you in Waco, and it's just it's very

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:56.400
<v Speaker 1>difficult for to convince players to come to Morgantown to

0:42:56.480 --> 0:43:02.120
<v Speaker 1>play far away, specifically in a specially when what the

0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 1>hell is West Virginia football under Neil Brown under Dana Holgerson.

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 1>You're like super creative, fast, fun offense. To play in it,

0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:11.680
<v Speaker 1>to be a quarterback, in, to be a receiver, in

0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:14.440
<v Speaker 1>to be a running back in there is a brand,

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 1>There is an identity to West Virginia football that was

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:20.759
<v Speaker 1>extremely positive and extremely enticing from my vantage point, if

0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:25.359
<v Speaker 1>you are a perhaps undersized receiver from Florida, like they

0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:27.480
<v Speaker 1>were able to get so much out of or North

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:31.359
<v Speaker 1>Carolina or South Carolina wherever somewhere in that that footprint Pennsylvania.

0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, under Neil Brown. It's sort of and this

0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:39.040
<v Speaker 1>is to borrow an NBA term, it's kind of a

0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:43.440
<v Speaker 1>program on the treadmill of mediocrity. If you are in

0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:45.719
<v Speaker 1>the portal looking for playing time, looking to contribute to

0:43:45.760 --> 0:43:48.800
<v Speaker 1>a major program. West Virginia was just kind of average

0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:52.399
<v Speaker 1>last year. So you can't go to West Virginia and say, man,

0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:53.880
<v Speaker 1>they need a lot of help on defense. I'm going

0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:56.200
<v Speaker 1>to immediately come in and play and show out in

0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:59.080
<v Speaker 1>a major conference, in the Big twelve. If you're an

0:43:59.080 --> 0:44:01.960
<v Speaker 1>offensive player, if you receiver, of which I think they've

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:04.399
<v Speaker 1>lost four or five in the portal specifically this year,

0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:07.240
<v Speaker 1>what was your experience these last couple of years playing receiver.

0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:10.920
<v Speaker 1>You're catching five yard passes from Jarrett Dagy who's now

0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:14.680
<v Speaker 1>at Western Kentucky. So they don't hit the portal hard

0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:17.520
<v Speaker 1>for a quarterback. They hired Graham Harrell to hopefully improve

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:20.200
<v Speaker 1>the branding of that offense, but it's not like what

0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:22.800
<v Speaker 1>was he able to do at USC with top tier talent,

0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:26.239
<v Speaker 1>not a ton Those were disappointing offenses with a ton

0:44:26.239 --> 0:44:29.799
<v Speaker 1>of NFL receivers. They you know, they part ways with

0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:32.799
<v Speaker 1>Vic Canning in twenty twenty, and so you know there

0:44:32.800 --> 0:44:34.399
<v Speaker 1>are guys that are recruited by him are thinking they're

0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:36.840
<v Speaker 1>going to play in that specific defense, and so that changes.

0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:40.879
<v Speaker 1>And so you're just sort of in no man's land

0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:44.359
<v Speaker 1>right now at West Virginia because what are you going

0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:48.840
<v Speaker 1>there to do? Definitively, I can't answer that question.

0:44:49.000 --> 0:44:51.399
<v Speaker 3>Like it's the identity, right, The identity is what you're

0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:53.440
<v Speaker 3>getting at. It's a good question, and it sort of

0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:57.920
<v Speaker 3>is pervasive across the board. Right is your identity in

0:44:58.040 --> 0:45:02.680
<v Speaker 3>terms of like a geego graphic college football thing?

0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:07.080
<v Speaker 3>Well, you're removed at least right now at present from

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:11.279
<v Speaker 3>the center of gravity of your conference. They're like half

0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:12.960
<v Speaker 3>a world away, half a country way.

0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:13.720
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:17.440
<v Speaker 3>What is your identity on offense? On defense? My point

0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:21.560
<v Speaker 3>was going to be especially around the quarterback position, right it.

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:25.759
<v Speaker 3>Jared Dagi threw nineteen touchdowns this year to twelve interceptions.

0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:31.279
<v Speaker 3>If inconsistency is my overarching theme here, yeah, that's a

0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:32.360
<v Speaker 3>pretty good place to look.

0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Sure. I like Jared Deggy, He's all right.

0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:38.200
<v Speaker 3>He completed sixty five percent of his passes, but inconsistency

0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:41.520
<v Speaker 3>was pretty much there across the board. Doing the little

0:45:41.520 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 3>things well has definitely not been a hallmark of Neil

0:45:45.000 --> 0:45:48.839
<v Speaker 3>Brown's time in Morgantown. And that type of stuff adds

0:45:48.920 --> 0:45:49.520
<v Speaker 3>up over time.

0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:54.279
<v Speaker 1>It just does. Yeah, And I think transfers, and this

0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:58.240
<v Speaker 1>is clearly stating the obvious. Transfers on that huge level,

0:45:58.320 --> 0:46:02.759
<v Speaker 1>at such a big number indicate people don't want to

0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:06.280
<v Speaker 1>be there and for whatever reason, be it the losing,

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:09.960
<v Speaker 1>be it the uninspired identity, be it the culture within

0:46:10.000 --> 0:46:12.239
<v Speaker 1>the program, be it the location of the program, be

0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:15.880
<v Speaker 1>it the conference of the program. It's not a big

0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 1>long term indicator of a turnaround, of a quick turnaround.

0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:22.680
<v Speaker 1>And so if you were a defensive player, if you're

0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:25.200
<v Speaker 1>van Darius Cowen who's heading to I think Maryland right

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:28.600
<v Speaker 1>he was? Was he Obama player before West Virginia. This

0:46:28.680 --> 0:46:32.560
<v Speaker 1>is second transfer. You can look that up. You're holding

0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:35.640
<v Speaker 1>teams to sixteen points in losing. You're holding teams to

0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:38.520
<v Speaker 1>eighteen points in a bowl game and losing by scoring.

0:46:38.600 --> 0:46:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they score a touchdown. I think that

0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:42.799
<v Speaker 1>six was two field goals. You can fact check me

0:46:42.840 --> 0:46:45.080
<v Speaker 1>on that as well. It's just like at a certain

0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:49.040
<v Speaker 1>point you're going to say we're holding up our end

0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 1>of the bargain and the offense is has not and

0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:55.480
<v Speaker 1>is not getting better. So that to me is the issue.

0:46:55.560 --> 0:46:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah with West Virginia is there's not a lot you

0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:01.480
<v Speaker 1>can point to in the during the Neil Brown era

0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:05.640
<v Speaker 1>where you're like, this is what this program is and

0:47:05.680 --> 0:47:09.200
<v Speaker 1>that's what excites me. Yeah, and right now it's it's

0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:12.560
<v Speaker 1>it's an attention economy. And god, I sound like a

0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:14.480
<v Speaker 1>dumb tech bro when I say really, but it is

0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:17.160
<v Speaker 1>and Virginia doing to garner attention.

0:47:17.800 --> 0:47:21.719
<v Speaker 3>Neil Brown's forty one years old, definitely one of the

0:47:21.760 --> 0:47:26.200
<v Speaker 3>younger coaches out there. He's going to go into year

0:47:26.360 --> 0:47:30.560
<v Speaker 3>four with a mark of seventeen and eighteen in Morgantown.

0:47:31.239 --> 0:47:33.400
<v Speaker 3>That is in start contrast to what he did at Troy,

0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:35.799
<v Speaker 3>where the first year was bad and then he won

0:47:35.880 --> 0:47:40.040
<v Speaker 3>double digits the next three. Different set of circumstances, obvious, sure,

0:47:40.680 --> 0:47:44.200
<v Speaker 3>completely different, but we have not seen that turnaround story

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<v Speaker 3>at all with West Virginia. Twenty nineteen five and seven,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty six and four weird.

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<v Speaker 1>COVID year Make of it what you will.

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<v Speaker 3>Last year finished the year six and seven, so by

0:47:55.040 --> 0:47:57.839
<v Speaker 3>a large five hundred program under Neil Brown, you need

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<v Speaker 3>to see if you can turn things around in good direction.

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<v Speaker 3>We take one more question.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, this is from an alpha from Patreon in

0:48:07.280 --> 0:48:12.960
<v Speaker 1>memory of Charles Entenmann. The Unforgettable Fire would like to know, ty,

0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:16.960
<v Speaker 1>did he just recently pass Charles Intemen? I've never heard

0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:22.440
<v Speaker 1>of well Entimates the supermarket brand donuts. You've never heard

0:48:22.480 --> 0:48:25.160
<v Speaker 1>of Entemens. No, it must be weirdly regional. You're you're

0:48:25.200 --> 0:48:31.360
<v Speaker 1>on the outside. Yeah. What is your favorite breakfast pastry

0:48:31.560 --> 0:48:36.680
<v Speaker 1>or your go to breakfast pastry? Yeah? Yeah, talk me

0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:38.719
<v Speaker 1>through your stance on breakfast page. I don't really eat

0:48:38.719 --> 0:48:39.920
<v Speaker 1>in the morning, but that doesn't mean I don't eat

0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:43.040
<v Speaker 1>breakfast pastries, just a different time of day. Yeah, I

0:48:43.080 --> 0:48:44.400
<v Speaker 1>mean I love.

0:48:44.280 --> 0:48:47.520
<v Speaker 3>A good a good breakfast pastry.

0:48:47.520 --> 0:48:48.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm a big time fan of it.

0:48:50.480 --> 0:48:53.000
<v Speaker 3>I love a good blueberry muffin.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, talk to me through, talk me through your ideal

0:48:56.920 --> 0:49:00.560
<v Speaker 1>blueberry muffin. Well, the problem that I see with a

0:49:00.560 --> 0:49:03.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of blueberry muffins, as you know, amconnaissur of such

0:49:03.400 --> 0:49:08.719
<v Speaker 1>always they make them too big. That's your complaint. No,

0:49:08.840 --> 0:49:10.719
<v Speaker 1>it's not a complaint, but it's.

0:49:10.560 --> 0:49:13.239
<v Speaker 3>Just you just said they're too big. That sounds like

0:49:13.280 --> 0:49:17.400
<v Speaker 3>a complaint. It's not intended as a complaint. But you

0:49:17.480 --> 0:49:19.800
<v Speaker 3>can't eat those things without a fork and a knife.

0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:24.040
<v Speaker 3>It's impossible if you try to eat. If you try

0:49:24.080 --> 0:49:28.319
<v Speaker 3>to eat the full blueberry muffin, just by sticking it

0:49:28.320 --> 0:49:31.400
<v Speaker 3>in your mouth, you look like you're a barbarian.

0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:34.120
<v Speaker 1>That's true, because they're huge. And then you just rip

0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:34.720
<v Speaker 1>off chunks.

0:49:34.800 --> 0:49:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Then you get crumbsle over you.

0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:38.120
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I want I

0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:42.880
<v Speaker 3>want the primal blueberry muffin experience. I'm not ripping off chunks.

0:49:42.880 --> 0:49:45.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm just sticking the thing in my mouth, Okay, And

0:49:45.920 --> 0:49:49.200
<v Speaker 3>so when you make the gargantuan blueberry muffin, that's a problem.

0:49:49.560 --> 0:49:51.880
<v Speaker 3>That's my only real if you want to call it complaint,

0:49:51.920 --> 0:49:55.600
<v Speaker 3>okay with blueberry muffins, but beyond that, yeah, I like.

0:49:55.760 --> 0:49:57.840
<v Speaker 3>I like if I get fresh blueberries in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh.

0:49:59.000 --> 0:50:01.960
<v Speaker 3>I like if they've got have you ever made blueberry muffins?

0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:03.399
<v Speaker 1>Pretty easy?

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<v Speaker 3>I like if they've got like the sugar flakes on top.

0:50:07.120 --> 0:50:07.759
<v Speaker 1>Always great.

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<v Speaker 3>That give you that a little bit extra kick in

0:50:09.760 --> 0:50:12.359
<v Speaker 3>the morning, just get you going. I like that, sure,

0:50:14.440 --> 0:50:16.480
<v Speaker 3>I like it if they're cold, actually.

0:50:17.440 --> 0:50:19.759
<v Speaker 1>Okay, fresh and blueberry muffin. Yeah, I like it. The

0:50:20.280 --> 0:50:23.320
<v Speaker 1>refrigerator whoa okay, unexpected twist.

0:50:23.600 --> 0:50:28.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like that, feel like that texture. Do you

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<v Speaker 3>have an answer?

0:50:29.880 --> 0:50:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, I have blueberry muffin thoughts. If you want to

0:50:31.680 --> 0:50:33.560
<v Speaker 1>talk more blueberry, you talk about whatever you want Dan

0:50:34.000 --> 0:50:37.719
<v Speaker 1>all right in a berry muffin, I want, I want

0:50:37.760 --> 0:50:40.320
<v Speaker 1>something rigid up top, and you you go to the

0:50:40.320 --> 0:50:42.600
<v Speaker 1>temperature for something that that stiffens it a little bit.

0:50:42.600 --> 0:50:46.480
<v Speaker 1>The cold. I would like crystallized sugar or pearl sugar,

0:50:46.640 --> 0:50:48.440
<v Speaker 1>which sort of looks like sesame seeds, but a little

0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:52.080
<v Speaker 1>baking sugar type things. Maybe a strusole presence, you know,

0:50:52.080 --> 0:50:56.160
<v Speaker 1>the sort of clustery, crunchy type elements of a of

0:50:56.200 --> 0:51:00.080
<v Speaker 1>a muffin. I never hate a strusle top, but I

0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I do want that harder top to a muffin if

0:51:02.960 --> 0:51:05.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm in that direction. And yeah, the crystal eye sugar

0:51:05.200 --> 0:51:07.840
<v Speaker 1>or the pearl sugar whatever, I'm great with. I like

0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:10.359
<v Speaker 1>it warm, though, I want that. I want a little

0:51:10.360 --> 0:51:11.759
<v Speaker 1>bit of steam when I opened it up fresh out

0:51:11.800 --> 0:51:14.120
<v Speaker 1>of the oven. Yeah. I'm not a big muffin guy.

0:51:14.600 --> 0:51:19.360
<v Speaker 1>I do like so my go to if I was,

0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:21.520
<v Speaker 1>if I were to be offered any sort of traditional

0:51:21.560 --> 0:51:24.080
<v Speaker 1>breakfast pastry. I want an old fashioned donut, or I

0:51:24.120 --> 0:51:27.520
<v Speaker 1>want like an apple frit or something like that. A

0:51:27.560 --> 0:51:31.640
<v Speaker 1>donut with texture, with ridges with crevasses, that's what I want.

0:51:33.719 --> 0:51:35.719
<v Speaker 1>I like a good lemon muffin, but I haven't found

0:51:35.760 --> 0:51:37.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot of good ones that I love. There was

0:51:37.360 --> 0:51:39.840
<v Speaker 1>a place in Brooklyn called Smith Canteen that made the

0:51:39.840 --> 0:51:41.960
<v Speaker 1>best I've ever had rest in peace. No longer there

0:51:42.840 --> 0:51:46.239
<v Speaker 1>the other breakfast that or the pastry that I like,

0:51:46.480 --> 0:51:48.040
<v Speaker 1>you can't find it in a lot of places. Is

0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:53.719
<v Speaker 1>It's my definitively like hipster answer. There is a Swedish

0:51:54.040 --> 0:51:59.319
<v Speaker 1>breakfast pastry. It's kind of like a cinnamon roll, but

0:51:59.440 --> 0:52:02.279
<v Speaker 1>it's like a It's if you combined the appearance and

0:52:02.320 --> 0:52:05.160
<v Speaker 1>texture of a garlic knot with the taste of a

0:52:05.160 --> 0:52:07.759
<v Speaker 1>cinnamon roll. We may have stopped off and got one

0:52:07.760 --> 0:52:11.319
<v Speaker 1>of these in Austin together, Okay. It's called so you

0:52:11.360 --> 0:52:14.120
<v Speaker 1>can get it with a with a cardamom presence, okay,

0:52:14.160 --> 0:52:17.120
<v Speaker 1>and that's really good, or just the cinnamon and have

0:52:17.160 --> 0:52:21.000
<v Speaker 1>the sugar. It's called a canal booler okay, And I'd

0:52:21.040 --> 0:52:23.000
<v Speaker 1>had never had one before going to this place. Easy

0:52:23.000 --> 0:52:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Tiger of which you wear an easy tiger hat on

0:52:25.120 --> 0:52:29.560
<v Speaker 1>the show sometimes down. Yeah, but it goes really well

0:52:29.680 --> 0:52:32.759
<v Speaker 1>with coffee because it's not iced like a cinnamon roll.

0:52:32.840 --> 0:52:36.040
<v Speaker 1>So it's it's not that like cinnabun sweet and dripping

0:52:36.120 --> 0:52:38.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing and messy. It's a little bit smaller

0:52:38.640 --> 0:52:41.200
<v Speaker 1>and more handheld, and you get the texture from the knots.

0:52:41.880 --> 0:52:43.759
<v Speaker 1>So I think that is my and I like the

0:52:43.760 --> 0:52:49.440
<v Speaker 1>cardamom version. That is my hipster snobby answer. And then

0:52:49.520 --> 0:52:52.920
<v Speaker 1>apple fritter or blueberry old fashioned donut if I'm sticking

0:52:52.920 --> 0:52:57.320
<v Speaker 1>with it. I'm not a big wasissanct guy. I like Bobka.

0:52:57.400 --> 0:52:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Bobka can be good for as a breakfast paste that

0:52:59.600 --> 0:53:00.600
<v Speaker 1>again has that texture.

0:53:00.719 --> 0:53:04.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, here's the problem with this question. Yeah, guys, stop

0:53:04.880 --> 0:53:09.239
<v Speaker 3>asking us food questions. Stop stop asking the food questions.

0:53:09.600 --> 0:53:13.239
<v Speaker 2>All right, he likes food. Dan likes food. He's very

0:53:13.239 --> 0:53:15.120
<v Speaker 2>good like the food. Oh, I like food.

0:53:15.120 --> 0:53:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Everybody likes food.

0:53:16.120 --> 0:53:20.919
<v Speaker 3>But you know food, I don't know anything about any

0:53:20.960 --> 0:53:24.240
<v Speaker 3>of this stuff. I don't I know something that tastes

0:53:24.280 --> 0:53:27.360
<v Speaker 3>good when I that's what I know. I'm looking desperately.

0:53:27.560 --> 0:53:30.320
<v Speaker 3>I can't turn the camera around. I am looking desperately

0:53:30.400 --> 0:53:32.919
<v Speaker 3>on Google images to find the name of the thing

0:53:32.960 --> 0:53:34.759
<v Speaker 3>that I know I like, but I couldn't think of

0:53:34.840 --> 0:53:38.680
<v Speaker 3>and defaulted to blueberry muffins. Let's just peel back the

0:53:38.719 --> 0:53:41.360
<v Speaker 3>kimono here and let you know what's going on inside

0:53:41.440 --> 0:53:44.640
<v Speaker 3>my head. I am desperately searching for an answer here.

0:53:45.000 --> 0:53:48.160
<v Speaker 3>I looked at these questions beforehand. I still don't know

0:53:48.200 --> 0:53:49.759
<v Speaker 3>the name of the thing that I actually like.

0:53:50.040 --> 0:53:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Can you describe it? We can all work together.

0:53:52.360 --> 0:53:54.040
<v Speaker 2>It sort of flakes a little bit.

0:53:54.640 --> 0:53:56.400
<v Speaker 1>But it's not a croissant. It's not a crysant.

0:53:56.520 --> 0:53:57.200
<v Speaker 2>It's bigger.

0:53:57.400 --> 0:53:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Give me a shape. It could be any.

0:53:59.680 --> 0:54:03.160
<v Speaker 3>Shape square, and it's sort of it doesn't necessarily have

0:54:03.360 --> 0:54:08.280
<v Speaker 3>like a real sweet flavor to it, almost like maybe

0:54:08.320 --> 0:54:09.760
<v Speaker 3>like a cream cheese filling.

0:54:10.440 --> 0:54:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, of sorts, So is it more savory? Is it

0:54:15.880 --> 0:54:19.759
<v Speaker 1>a scone? A savory scone? It's not a scone's.

0:54:20.520 --> 0:54:23.440
<v Speaker 3>It's more it's just more of like a cream cheese taste.

0:54:23.160 --> 0:54:30.160
<v Speaker 1>To it, a cream cheese square, a rectangular, traditional flaky pastry,

0:54:30.280 --> 0:54:33.759
<v Speaker 1>possibly on the more savory side. Yeah, it's not a

0:54:33.760 --> 0:54:35.919
<v Speaker 1>pop tart. No, it's not a popart. Did you grow

0:54:35.960 --> 0:54:37.560
<v Speaker 1>up with pop tarts? By the way, is that a

0:54:37.560 --> 0:54:39.080
<v Speaker 1>part of your rotation growing up.

0:54:39.560 --> 0:54:44.120
<v Speaker 3>Or currently, say rotation's a bit much, but yes, I mean,

0:54:44.440 --> 0:54:45.800
<v Speaker 3>of course I grew up with pop tarts.

0:54:46.080 --> 0:54:47.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't really have that many pop I like

0:54:47.800 --> 0:54:49.480
<v Speaker 1>pop tarts, but I don't really have that many growing up.

0:54:51.440 --> 0:54:54.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to work through this. So it's a flaky

0:54:54.440 --> 0:55:01.399
<v Speaker 1>cream cheese breakfast pastry. Flaky cream cheese breakfast pastry.

0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:03.680
<v Speaker 3>Like, I'm sure there's a name for this thing that

0:55:03.719 --> 0:55:05.120
<v Speaker 3>I've got in my head. I don't know what you're

0:55:05.120 --> 0:55:10.160
<v Speaker 3>talking about. A Danish Sure, I guess, No, I guess.

0:55:10.200 --> 0:55:12.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know what it Danish is. I don't

0:55:12.320 --> 0:55:14.040
<v Speaker 3>know what the classifications are.

0:55:13.920 --> 0:55:16.120
<v Speaker 1>For these things. I don't do you feel like it

0:55:16.200 --> 0:55:20.240
<v Speaker 1>is a like specifically like Germanic type influence, that it's

0:55:20.280 --> 0:55:23.040
<v Speaker 1>like unique to Eastern PA. It looks like Danish is

0:55:23.040 --> 0:55:26.560
<v Speaker 1>the right answer here. Yeah, okay, I like Danish are delicious.

0:55:26.600 --> 0:55:29.080
<v Speaker 1>There it is. I'm a I'm a big Danish fan.

0:55:30.520 --> 0:55:33.399
<v Speaker 3>But other than that, I don't like. I don't ask

0:55:33.440 --> 0:55:36.040
<v Speaker 3>the food questions. I don't know the answers to them.

0:55:36.200 --> 0:55:40.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm always be essing my way through them always of

0:55:40.280 --> 0:55:40.600
<v Speaker 3>the time.

0:55:41.880 --> 0:55:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Can I ask you another question? Only it's not about food. No,

0:55:45.560 --> 0:55:48.319
<v Speaker 1>it's about food. It's about breakfast pastries. I'm positive you've

0:55:48.320 --> 0:55:49.799
<v Speaker 1>had this or seen this, and I just want your

0:55:49.800 --> 0:55:52.960
<v Speaker 1>opinion on it. How do you feel about crumb slash

0:55:53.040 --> 0:55:57.879
<v Speaker 1>coffee cake? I do like that, of course.

0:55:57.920 --> 0:55:58.600
<v Speaker 2>It's so good.

0:55:58.960 --> 0:56:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you ever have good molasses cake? Is that typically

0:56:02.760 --> 0:56:05.319
<v Speaker 1>eating for breakfast? You can't eat it for breakfast? I

0:56:05.360 --> 0:56:08.239
<v Speaker 1>mean you can mo hiper eats pumpkin pie for breakfast. Yeah,

0:56:08.239 --> 0:56:13.600
<v Speaker 1>any paper breakfast yeah. Um, molasses cake. Yeah, I've heard

0:56:13.600 --> 0:56:15.799
<v Speaker 1>of shoefly pie, which is a molasses pie.

0:56:15.800 --> 0:56:17.560
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, no.

0:56:17.960 --> 0:56:24.879
<v Speaker 1>Molasses cake, molasses cake, breakfast, molasses breakfast cake. I mean

0:56:24.920 --> 0:56:28.120
<v Speaker 1>that looks very heavy. It looks extremely heavy. Yeah. No,

0:56:28.239 --> 0:56:30.400
<v Speaker 1>it'll take you through all the way till like three pm.

0:56:30.600 --> 0:56:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Gives you sort of like a gingerbready vibe. Yeah, oh yeah,

0:56:33.920 --> 0:56:37.920
<v Speaker 1>ginger vibe. Okay, yeah, No, I've never done that for breakfast,

0:56:38.160 --> 0:56:41.440
<v Speaker 1>but it looks great now. Crumb cake Entiman's crumb cake.

0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:45.479
<v Speaker 1>To be specific with this question, it's so good.

0:56:45.760 --> 0:56:49.040
<v Speaker 3>I have a very limited field of view. People need

0:56:49.080 --> 0:56:51.440
<v Speaker 3>to understand this about I have a very limited field

0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:52.680
<v Speaker 3>of view when it comes to food.

0:56:53.040 --> 0:56:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Really, when it.

0:56:53.560 --> 0:56:54.280
<v Speaker 1>Comes to life.

0:56:54.719 --> 0:56:58.480
<v Speaker 2>Are we talking sports? Are we talking tech? Are we

0:56:58.560 --> 0:56:59.480
<v Speaker 2>talking space?

0:56:59.600 --> 0:56:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:56:59.719 --> 0:57:01.960
<v Speaker 3>These are things that are very much in the wheelhouse,

0:57:02.040 --> 0:57:05.160
<v Speaker 3>but sure, anything in the food world, forget it. Just

0:57:06.719 --> 0:57:09.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm tapping out. I'm getting frustrated here tapping You've.

0:57:09.400 --> 0:57:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Made You've made all sorts of discoveries food wise in

0:57:11.920 --> 0:57:14.040
<v Speaker 1>the last five years that you've been very happy with.

0:57:14.120 --> 0:57:14.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know why.

0:57:16.240 --> 0:57:19.880
<v Speaker 3>It's been because of you, And it's been because of

0:57:19.920 --> 0:57:23.440
<v Speaker 3>solid wife Kate. On my own, I am a rube.

0:57:23.600 --> 0:57:25.680
<v Speaker 3>I have no idea about any of this stuff.

0:57:25.720 --> 0:57:27.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling here. I'm gonna lose my voice. It's okay.

0:57:27.840 --> 0:57:29.640
<v Speaker 3>I have no idea about any of this stuff. So

0:57:29.680 --> 0:57:31.360
<v Speaker 3>I have you to thank for avocados.

0:57:32.000 --> 0:57:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Avocados. Of all things avocado. I can tell you is

0:57:35.840 --> 0:57:39.200
<v Speaker 1>everybody is a rube until they're not. If you make

0:57:39.240 --> 0:57:41.680
<v Speaker 1>an effort to try new things, which I think you do,

0:57:42.360 --> 0:57:43.280
<v Speaker 1>then you're at a rube.

0:57:43.680 --> 0:57:46.160
<v Speaker 3>For fourteen years, I'm answering food questions. I don't know

0:57:46.160 --> 0:57:48.960
<v Speaker 3>a damn thing about any of it. Nothing make me up.

0:57:48.960 --> 0:57:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Agree barbecue a couple of years ago that you loved

0:57:51.680 --> 0:57:52.120
<v Speaker 1>it's great.

0:57:52.160 --> 0:57:55.400
<v Speaker 3>Don't know anything about that either. It tastes good. Yeah,

0:57:55.440 --> 0:57:57.520
<v Speaker 3>but people are like, what's your specific parents?

0:57:57.880 --> 0:57:58.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:57:59.080 --> 0:58:03.040
<v Speaker 1>I have heard what about? What about?

0:58:04.600 --> 0:58:04.720
<v Speaker 3>Now?

0:58:04.760 --> 0:58:06.400
<v Speaker 1>I forget what I was going to ask, but oh yeah,

0:58:06.400 --> 0:58:08.520
<v Speaker 1>you just found it, like a great Italian deli nearby.

0:58:08.640 --> 0:58:10.320
<v Speaker 1>I did like a meatball parm.

0:58:10.080 --> 0:58:12.240
<v Speaker 3>But I know Italian food. I'm from an Italian fan.

0:58:12.320 --> 0:58:15.560
<v Speaker 3>Joy that I know pizza. Actually, I sort of know.

0:58:15.560 --> 0:58:18.160
<v Speaker 1>We gotta get you to Italy, man, you know Italian

0:58:18.200 --> 0:58:20.320
<v Speaker 1>American food. That's just what I know. I don't know

0:58:20.360 --> 0:58:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Italian Italian Italian food all that well at all, which

0:58:22.600 --> 0:58:24.800
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to know more. Yeah, I'm with you on

0:58:24.840 --> 0:58:28.000
<v Speaker 1>that front. Yeah, all right, we got to keep this going.

0:58:28.000 --> 0:58:30.280
<v Speaker 1>We have a bunch of questions about pants, about sauces,

0:58:30.400 --> 0:58:34.720
<v Speaker 1>more about college football, about child rearing, about marriage, ty.

0:58:34.800 --> 0:58:36.160
<v Speaker 1>We got a lot to talk about. I know so

0:58:36.280 --> 0:58:37.360
<v Speaker 1>much about child rearing.

0:58:37.440 --> 0:58:37.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm ready.

0:58:37.920 --> 0:58:40.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm rearing to go, and I'm getting warmed up now.

0:58:40.920 --> 0:58:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm all woe.

0:58:42.480 --> 0:58:43.760
<v Speaker 2>The juice is flowing here.

0:58:44.320 --> 0:58:44.720
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, this is agitated. This is I'm agitated.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So to everybody listening to this show who is

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