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Speaker 3: where we going first?

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Speaker 1: All right, let's start here. I'm gonna give priority to

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Speaker 1: Ole Miss is a team that I think could jump

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Speaker 1: Now it's the Jackson Dart led team. I think they're

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Speaker 1: And who did Texas A and M early on? I

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Speaker 1: think they have Miami. I think they host Miami. Yep,

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Speaker 1: So that's that's actually a terrific time probably to get

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Speaker 1: I think they could pop up two or three oh yeah, wins.

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Speaker 1: is actually correct. Well, I mean, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Anytime you get a question like this, the answer is

434
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Speaker 3: always in forever lasers, right, of.

435
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Speaker 1: Course, obviously obviously drones, lasers, laser, drones, drone lasers.

436
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Speaker 3: Yep, I think the answer is lasers. Dan who asked

437
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Speaker 3: the question, Dan, A couple things come to mind, but

438
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Speaker 3: kind of on that same note, technology is definitely shaping.

439
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Speaker 1: The way we view all sports.

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Speaker 3: I would expect ten years from now that VR is

441
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Speaker 3: going to be a big deal, a much bigger deal

442
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Speaker 3: than it is.

443
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Speaker 1: Think so.

444
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Speaker 3: I think so so in terms of how it shapes

445
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Speaker 3: the game, maybe not on field, but the fan experience.

446
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Speaker 3: I could see going in a direction where VR is

447
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 3: a thing and how we experience the game at home

448
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 3: is very much driven by optics, literal optics that we

449
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Speaker 3: put on our head. I think that could be a thing.

450
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Speaker 3: I'm going to hold out hope that in ten years

451
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Speaker 3: we can put a chip in a ball and we

452
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Speaker 3: don't have to leave it to Dean Blandino or guys

453
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Speaker 3: somewhere in a truck with eight K televisions to figure

454
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Speaker 3: out did the ball cross the line or not. We've

455
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Speaker 3: got to be able to put the chip in the ball, Dan,

456
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 3: got to be able to do that. Somebody can do

457
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 3: that now. I gotta believe that's going to be one

458
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Speaker 3: of the next revolutions that comes over the next ten years.

459
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Speaker 1: We could have robot umpires for baseball, and yet we don't.

460
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: They shot that down, right, I know, I saw that.

461
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Speaker 1: That's a bummer.

462
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Speaker 3: They shot that down. Robots is another answer in line

463
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Speaker 3: with the lasers. Yeah, will we see any robotics, Dan.

464
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Speaker 1: I think the organization of the sport is going to

465
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Speaker 1: look a whole lot different. I think things are going

466
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Speaker 1: to continue to consolidate. College football has shown itself and

467
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Speaker 1: a number all major sports have shown themselves to be

468
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Speaker 1: entities that don't move backwards. And so if we are

469
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Speaker 1: talking about a sport in which conferences are getting bigger

470
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Speaker 1: and are focusing on television money, then things are going

471
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Speaker 1: to further consolidate. The idea of college football. For better

472
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Speaker 1: or worse. I say, for worse has been to chase

473
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Speaker 1: the NFL model, So I think we're going to end

474
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Speaker 1: up with fewer conferences. I think we're going to end

475
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Speaker 1: up with a much more consolidated sport chasing more and

476
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Speaker 1: more TV money. The Playoff will continue to expand. I

477
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Speaker 1: don't know the exact year. I don't know if it's

478
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Speaker 1: by twenty thirty two, whatever, we know it's going to

479
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Speaker 1: expand at least to six, eight, ten, twelve games before then.

480
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Speaker 1: But I think there will be there will be a

481
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Speaker 1: reckoning at a certain point where a bubble will burst

482
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Speaker 1: and there will have to be a conversation around Okay,

483
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Speaker 1: college football is now a national sport, do we have

484
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Speaker 1: a national governing body? That to me is going to

485
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Speaker 1: be the biggest change. I think by twenty thirty two

486
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Speaker 1: there will be a national governing body in place, not

487
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Speaker 1: necessarily in the way that the College Football Playoff governing

488
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Speaker 1: body exists, because it's not really a governing body, just

489
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Speaker 1: an organizational grouping. I think there is going to be

490
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Speaker 1: a fundamental shift between the haves and have nots, and

491
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Speaker 1: there will be a governing body that is saying, okay,

492
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Speaker 1: these are the rules be it about nil, be it

493
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Speaker 1: about any sort of payment, be it about actual rules,

494
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Speaker 1: beat about scholarships, be about scheduling. I think there will

495
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Speaker 1: be a major shift in how the sport is organized

496
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Speaker 1: and governed, and that there will be a group. I

497
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Speaker 1: don't know if there's a commissioner. I don't know if

498
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Speaker 1: there's a board. I don't know if there's some sort

499
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Speaker 1: of consortium of conference commissioners that come together and make

500
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Speaker 1: these make the rules for the sport. But I think

501
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Speaker 1: we are heading in that direction where college football sees

502
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Speaker 1: the amount of money on the table and says, if

503
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Speaker 1: we can get our act together and turn this into

504
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Speaker 1: more of a machine, turn this into a full organization,

505
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Speaker 1: then we can do better financially and we can spread

506
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Speaker 1: the resources around more effectively. So that's my answer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the money aspect here I think has

508
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Speaker 3: potential to change a lot. Now, at time of recording,

509
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Speaker 3: it is March, it is twenty twenty two. Reportedly EA

510
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Speaker 3: Sports is dropping the new college football game in twenty three. Now.

511
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 3: I haven't seen that confirmed, but that's the report that

512
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 3: I think could actually drive change in a pretty big way,

513
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 3: and especially with respect to things like nil, and especially

514
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Speaker 3: with respect to representation for the players and where that

515
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 3: whole movement goes next, Because suddenly we're talking about a

516
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Speaker 3: pretty big source of income for everybody, sort of a

517
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 3: calm denominator, if you will, How that is handled, how

518
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 3: that affects things on the NIL front moving forward, It's

519
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 3: gonna be really interesting to see. But could it drive

520
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Speaker 3: us to the place could it drive the sport to

521
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Speaker 3: a place where we're talking about things like commissioners, where

522
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Speaker 3: we're talking about things like collective bargaining.

523
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I might be getting a little bit over over my

525
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 3: skis here, but that I think could be a pretty

526
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Speaker 3: big moment for us as we examine this question over

527
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Speaker 3: the next decade.

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Speaker 1: I also don't think and I think this is and

529
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Speaker 1: just from talking to people, I don't think prospects maybe

530
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Speaker 1: the top of the top of the top, with all

531
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Speaker 1: things being equal, make a decision that heavily weighs ANIL stuff.

532
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Speaker 1: But I still think the schools that have the most

533
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: money are already the schools are generally really good who

534
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: have those huge donor bases. Look, Texas hasn't been good

535
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: in quite some time, and they have that donor base,

536
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: and they could organize and they could, you know, put

537
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Speaker 1: together these collectives that pay top recruits whatever X amount

538
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: of dollars. But also, you still have to want to

539
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Speaker 1: play for Texas. You still have to want to play

540
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Speaker 1: for Tennessee or Florida State or USC or any of

541
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Speaker 1: these places that are sort of trying to use NIL

542
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Speaker 1: in a big way. And so I still don't think

543
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Speaker 1: somebody is going to exclusively go to a place because

544
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Speaker 1: of short term earning. I still think that we are

545
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Speaker 1: we are selling kids and their intellect and decision making

546
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: abilities a little bit short when we assume that that's

547
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Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the process. So I think I

548
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: think specifically NIL is going to get a lot more organized.

549
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: And we talked about this with Matt Brown. You can

550
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Speaker 1: go back and listen to that podcast from a few

551
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: weeks ago. He was excellent in that this is still

552
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: the infancy of the name image likeness era, and so

553
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: markets will correct themselves, will better organize themselves. And you know,

554
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: far be it for me to just assume major sports

555
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: knows what it's doing, because you look across a major

556
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: sport knows what it's doing. You look across the Olympics,

557
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: you look across baseball, and the NFL like there's no

558
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: rhyme or reason to anything. I think there is going

559
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: to be a reckoning with gambling. That's interesting one.

560
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a question about that. Of course, it's

561
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Speaker 3: in the news right now. My hunch has got a

562
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 3: lot of folks listening have seeing the Calvin Ridley news

563
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 3: and where things stand with him being in the NFL

564
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Speaker 3: and gambling and that whole disaster that we're going to

565
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 3: see play out in real time. But gambling money is

566
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Speaker 3: a thing.

567
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Speaker 1: Man.

568
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Speaker 3: Will colleges more openly embrace it, will conferences, will the

569
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Speaker 3: playoff more open embrace it?

570
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know.

571
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Speaker 3: If the Gamba companies had their drugs, they would it

572
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 3: would be a tighter relationship. You might have logos on uniforms.

573
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Speaker 3: I don't think we'll get there, but it definitely has

574
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Speaker 3: the potential to, I think, affect things in a pretty

575
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Speaker 3: big way.

576
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Speaker 1: Here's the certainty, and this is, you know, a couple

577
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Speaker 1: of days, three or four days after the Calvin Ridley

578
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Speaker 1: being suspended for a year for betting, what you say,

579
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Speaker 1: fifteen hundred bucks on parlays NFL parlays including the Falcons

580
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Speaker 1: to win. So he wasn't betting against his own team,

581
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Speaker 1: which I guess is something. But the certainty, the one

582
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Speaker 1: hundred percent is going to be a wife, a nephew,

583
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Speaker 1: a son, a brother, a parent of somebody within a

584
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Speaker 1: program having inside information putting ten thousand dollars on a

585
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: game and it being traced back that and I'm fully

586
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: making this up that PJ. Flex nephew puts eighty five

587
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 1: hundred dollars down on the Gophers because they surprise and

588
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: got back a quarterback who had been injured. And nobody

589
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: knows this or that get has intel that a key player,

590
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: usually a quarterback, sometimes a running back is out with

591
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: a surprise injury. Is you know, he was hungover and

592
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: snapped his ankle trying to jump over a fire hydrant

593
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: or something the night before a game. And there's going

594
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: to be suspicious money pushed around a game that will

595
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: be traced back to a big name coach. That to

596
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: me with how easy it is to gamble, and Calvin

597
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: Ridley did this on his phone, correct, yep. That is

598
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: it's going to be too enticing for somebody with inside

599
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: information and it's going to be connected to a coach

600
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: or a strength coach or whoever, or a you know,

601
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: a girlfriend or whatever of a player. We'll be like, ooh,

602
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: this is a little bit fishy and too suspicious, and

603
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: it's going to be further investigated, and there might be

604
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,719
Speaker 1: repercussions involved somehow, That to me, by twenty thirty two,

605
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Speaker 1: one hundred percent will happen maybe by the end of

606
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Next question, Next question, nor Norden Cam.

607
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if Nordon Cam sure from Instagram? How

608
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: can Tennessee prepare its defense for the workload of always

609
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: being on the field. I assume that's sort of for better,

610
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: for worse and Hendon Hooker's coming back. Tennessee's offensive footprint

611
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: per bell c they had the number one pace in

612
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Speaker 1: college football last season, so for better worse meaning they'll

613
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Speaker 1: go three and out quickly, or they'll bomb it down

614
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: the field and score quickly. And I don't anticipate that

615
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: style changing anytime soon. How do you account for that, coach, Tie?

616
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Speaker 3: If I'm not a coach, I'm a podcaster. Yeah, we're

617
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 3: talking about true class on grass here. With that Tennessee

618
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 3: offense number one pace first off, one way that you

619
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Speaker 3: can help account for it is by making your offense

620
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Speaker 3: as efficient as possible. If you're going to be on

621
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Speaker 3: the field for a very short period of time, make

622
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 3: sure you get the most bang for the buck. So

623
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Speaker 3: any way that you can make the offense better. If

624
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 3: that's what you're saying, score points, score points, right, I'm

625
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 3: saying quite literally, score points. If you're going to be

626
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 3: running NASCAR offense. That that's the first thing. The second thing,

627
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 3: I guess comes down to the type of players that

628
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 3: you're recruiting, the types of guys that you're putting out there.

629
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Speaker 3: All you gotta do is watch the NFL combine to

630
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 3: realize that athletes are a little bit different now than

631
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 3: they were ten years ago. There are so many more

632
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 3: guys that are out there now that kind of fit

633
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 3: that hybrid mold than what we'd see a decade ago.

634
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 3: If you're tennessee any guys like that, any guys that

635
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 3: can be versatile, that can play a bunch of different positions,

636
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 3: that you know have stamina. You can't really afford to

637
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 3: go out there with three hundred and fifty pound defensive lineman.

638
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: Those guys are going to be guessed.

639
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 3: So you need to be able to build a defense

640
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 3: that I think has much more of a hybrid look

641
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 3: and feel to it, so that you can get your

642
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 3: guys in space and they're not going to die when

643
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Speaker 3: they're on the field.

644
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Speaker 1: The entire game one slow down a little bit, fully,

645
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: not fully, have different speeds. There was an old Chip

646
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: Kelly story that you know, as fast as Oregon was

647
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: playing when they really started playing with that kind of tempo,

648
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: they had red, yellow and green. They had green for

649
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: when it was go go, go, go go. They had

650
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: yellow when it was like hurry up and then get

651
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: to the line and look over so the other team

652
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: still can't substitute. And then a much slower like milking

653
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: the clock type pace. So Tennessee with what little Josh

654
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: hipel inherited said, Okay, one of our advantages if we

655
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: don't have a great offensive line is going to be

656
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 1: the speed at which we play, because that will gas

657
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: teams and that will mitigate any issues we have along

658
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: the offensive line. And they developed running backs. You know,

659
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: they were able to play and win in different ways.

660
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: Tyon Evans came on in the middle of the year,

661
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: of course, and they were bombing it downfield and it

662
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: worked really, really well. Once Hendon Hooker took over as

663
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: the full time starting quarterback. Here's what you can do.

664
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: You can the most difficult and most obvious answer is

665
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: recruit a super talented and deep defense. You just rotate

666
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: in and out, keep them fresh, and then you can

667
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: get off the field quicker because you're constantly rotating in

668
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,959
Speaker 1: fresh legs. That's what Georgia was able to do last year.

669
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: Pretty hard to replicate, pretty hard to replicate. And Georgia

670
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: didn't have an offense that played with the pace that

671
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: Tennessee's played with, right, but they were constantly bringing guys

672
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: in and out of the game. This was when you

673
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: recruit the way that Georgia did in a few years

674
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: leading up to twenty twenty one. You can do that.

675
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: Another way is you just got to get off the field.

676
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: And how do you get off the field, or you

677
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: get off the field with turnovers. There's a randomness to that.

678
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,959
Speaker 1: But you can teach a defense to give it self

679
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: the best chance at generating turnovers, and you know preaching strips, preaching,

680
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: you know, hands in passing lanes to get the ball

681
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: into the air. You can look at the teams and

682
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: the coordinators and assistants who have been a part of defense,

683
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: a defense that have been especially good at getting off

684
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: the field on third down, especially good at fielding defenses

685
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: that have high three and out percentages, and that those

686
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: all those numbers are readily available. And you look at

687
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: the teams who are able to even without a ton

688
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: of talent, maybe you look at the FCS level, maybe

689
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: you look at you know, G five level, whatever, the

690
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: teams who are able to force the an uncharacteristically low

691
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: completion percentage from quarterbacks right that they're able to generate confusion,

692
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: that they're able to sew, you know, to get that

693
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: extra second or two seconds that that makes a quarterback hesitate.

694
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: Find those guys. And so if you are fully dedicated

695
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: to playing with that kind of pace, you need to

696
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: be dedicated to robust rotation and finding a coach who

697
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: is especially adept at confusion. That to me is how

698
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: you do it.

699
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: Do we think hypel can do that?

700
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, I think if Tennessee has its affairs in

701
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: order more so than usual, that they are not going

702
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 1: to be outbid for assistant coaches, then assistant may choose

703
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: to go elsewhere who has options. But I don't think

704
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: it's going to be a money thing. I think the

705
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: more that they win, the more interest they're going to

706
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: generate from regional talent. We've seen that they're not going

707
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: to be outbid from an nil perspective, as the collective

708
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 1: has allegedly come together to pool together money to compete

709
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: on the recruiting trail. So I think Josh Hipel is

710
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: all in on running both a modern offense and a

711
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: modern program. So I don't know if that results in

712
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: ten to eleven wins seasons more often than not, but

713
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 1: I think Tennessee is trying to give itself every chance

714
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 1: in the world to do that. We'll see what they

715
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: end up at a quarterback. That's going to be huge

716
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: because they're competing with some of the best nationally. But

717
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be an especially attractive offensive

718
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: style that will attract top quarterbacks in the years to come.

719
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, the defense thing is going to remain a question.

720
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: You need to stay out in front and be innovative

721
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 1: and really look at the guys who consistently get their

722
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 1: own defenses off the field.

723
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, and to that point, Dan, if you're talking about

724
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 3: things like turnovers, we're talking about havoc rate, right, We're

725
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: talking about creating place is when the defense is on

726
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 3: the field to try and maybe tilt the scales in

727
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 3: your favor. One of the factors that I think you know,

728
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 3: we had talked about at some point or another. Tennessee's

729
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 3: defense was pretty good this year, but Tennessee as a

730
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 3: blitzing team was.

731
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: Not necessarily where it needed to be.

732
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 3: So, right, if you're talking about this equation where your

733
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 3: defense is always on the field, your offense is only

734
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 3: on the field for a small percentage of the time,

735
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 3: you got to get the most out of those blitzes.

736
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 3: That's one area for improvement for Tennessee in twenty two

737
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 3: and beyond.

738
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Speaker 1: The good thing about Tennessee in year one was that

739
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: their special teams was also pretty good. Yeah, And so

740
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: when you talk about the hidden yards and what you

741
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: force teams into, if you are forcing bad field position

742
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: a lot because of touchbacks from kickoffs and deep punts

743
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 1: and sound you know coverage, and you know guys staying

744
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: in their lanes and making tackles where they should, you're

745
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: giving yourself every chance in the world to get off

746
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: the field. If you're pinning teams pretty consistently, and also

747
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: if you're making special teams that result in short fields

748
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: for your offense. If you're blocking kicks, so whatever, if

749
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: you're doing what it takes. In special teams, you also

750
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: change the calculus a little bit, because all of a sudden,

751
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: you're up fourteen to three, and a team who's not

752
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: used to playing from behind and doesn't necessarily have an

753
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: offense built to play from behind suddenly chucking the ball

754
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 1: a lot and a lot more than usual, and that's

755
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: stopping the clock, and that's getting their own offense off

756
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: the field. So I think there are a lot of

757
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: things you can do on the margins, and honestly, I

758
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: think Tennessee will give itself every chance to do so.

759
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 1: They are one of the few programs that, even without

760
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: a lot of recent success, will attempt to spend their

761
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: way to success, which is I think it's better than

762
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: not so here here. I think there you have our answer.

763
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: Mean Joe.

764
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: A oh, that's a different mean Joe than I was expecting.

765
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: Different Mean Joe is West Virginia in trouble number one

766
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: for transfers in the portal. I can't confirm that. I

767
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: did go to their transfer page on twenty four to seven,

768
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of WVU and then an arrow

769
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: pointing elsewhere and not as much pointing towards WVU from elsewhere.

770
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 1: Is West Virginia in your mind in trouble under Neil Brown?

771
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 3: Well, if we harken back to the returning production thing

772
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 3: that I mentioned before, yea, West Virginia is, Yeah, they're

773
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 3: looking for people. They're looking for people who could come

774
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 3: in and run things. It's going to be a lot

775
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 3: of new faces, especially on offense for West Virginia. I

776
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 3: kind of don't know directionally which way this program's going,

777
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 3: and I've struggled with that over the last two seasons,

778
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 3: especially last season. Twenty twenty was moan, but twenty twenty one,

779
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 3: you know.

780
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: Was sort of all over the place.

781
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 3: Still have a little bit of PTSD from that bowl game.

782
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 3: The bowl game against Minnesota, what was at eighteen to six?

783
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 3: Eighteen to six, Yep, it's a really bad offensive showing there.

784
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,479
Speaker 3: The reason that I struggle with West Virginia is because

785
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: there are moments where you see that level of effort

786
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 3: that you expect. Right there was a one score get

787
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 3: one score loss, what they lose by three points on.

788
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: The road to Oklahoma.

789
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 2: Oklahoma was sort.

790
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 3: Of in disarray early, but still you know you're looking

791
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 3: at that game thinking well, geez, they lost sixteen thirteen.

792
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 3: It must be doing something right, especially on defense. There

793
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 3: were other games they beat Iowa State, They beat Iowa

794
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 3: followed that up with what what do they follow up

795
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 3: the Iowa State win with like scoring three against Oklahoma State?

796
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,479
Speaker 3: They lost by twenty one Oklahoma State at home. Yeah,

797
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 3: so it's just sort of been all over the mat.

798
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 3: I beat Texas, right, Texas wasn't any great win, but

799
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 3: like they're just there's not enough consistency there in terms

800
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: of when they're getting their wins or when they're not

801
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 3: getting their wins, and that scares me a little bit.

802
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if that I don't know if we've

803
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 3: seen that consistency on the uptick in the time that

804
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 3: Neil Brown's been in Morgantown. Right, And as you're trying

805
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 3: to build something and directionally just get it going in

806
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 3: a good way, like you would hope that you start

807
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 3: to see something that's just a little bit more reliable

808
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 3: across the board. And that's what frightens me. That we

809
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 3: can go into numbers.

810
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 1: We've got all the numbers.

811
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure you've got the same stuff in front

812
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 3: of you that I have in front of me. But

813
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 3: the consistency aspect of this is what really frightens me.

814
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: So West Virginia is in a really difficult place. So, okay,

815
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: West Virginia plays in a conference that it is not

816
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: in a largely geographic footprint of. So you go to

817
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: teams on the you go to you know, high schools

818
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: on the east coast in the southeast, and you say,

819
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: come come play at West Virginia. We'll see you in Lubbock,

820
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: We'll see you in Waco, and it's just it's very

821
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: difficult for to convince players to come to Morgantown to

822
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: play far away, specifically in a specially when what the

823
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: hell is West Virginia football under Neil Brown under Dana Holgerson.

824
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: You're like super creative, fast, fun offense. To play in it,

825
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: to be a quarterback, in, to be a receiver, in

826
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: to be a running back in there is a brand,

827
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: There is an identity to West Virginia football that was

828
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: extremely positive and extremely enticing from my vantage point, if

829
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 1: you are a perhaps undersized receiver from Florida, like they

830
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: were able to get so much out of or North

831
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 1: Carolina or South Carolina wherever somewhere in that that footprint Pennsylvania.

832
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: Excuse me, under Neil Brown. It's sort of and this

833
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: is to borrow an NBA term, it's kind of a

834
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: program on the treadmill of mediocrity. If you are in

835
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: the portal looking for playing time, looking to contribute to

836
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: a major program. West Virginia was just kind of average

837
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 1: last year. So you can't go to West Virginia and say, man,

838
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: they need a lot of help on defense. I'm going

839
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: to immediately come in and play and show out in

840
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: a major conference, in the Big twelve. If you're an

841
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: offensive player, if you receiver, of which I think they've

842
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 1: lost four or five in the portal specifically this year,

843
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 1: what was your experience these last couple of years playing receiver.

844
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: You're catching five yard passes from Jarrett Dagy who's now

845
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: at Western Kentucky. So they don't hit the portal hard

846
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: for a quarterback. They hired Graham Harrell to hopefully improve

847
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: the branding of that offense, but it's not like what

848
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: was he able to do at USC with top tier talent,

849
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: not a ton Those were disappointing offenses with a ton

850
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: of NFL receivers. They you know, they part ways with

851
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: Vic Canning in twenty twenty, and so you know there

852
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 1: are guys that are recruited by him are thinking they're

853
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: going to play in that specific defense, and so that changes.

854
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 1: And so you're just sort of in no man's land

855
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: right now at West Virginia because what are you going

856
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 1: there to do? Definitively, I can't answer that question.

857
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 3: Like it's the identity, right, The identity is what you're

858
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 3: getting at. It's a good question, and it sort of

859
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 3: is pervasive across the board. Right is your identity in

860
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 3: terms of like a geego graphic college football thing?

861
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: Right?

862
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 3: Well, you're removed at least right now at present from

863
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 3: the center of gravity of your conference. They're like half

864
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 3: a world away, half a country way.

865
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 1: Yep.

866
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 3: What is your identity on offense? On defense? My point

867
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 3: was going to be especially around the quarterback position, right it.

868
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 3: Jared Dagi threw nineteen touchdowns this year to twelve interceptions.

869
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 3: If inconsistency is my overarching theme here, yeah, that's a

870
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 3: pretty good place to look.

871
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: Sure. I like Jared Deggy, He's all right.

872
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 3: He completed sixty five percent of his passes, but inconsistency

873
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 3: was pretty much there across the board. Doing the little

874
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 3: things well has definitely not been a hallmark of Neil

875
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 3: Brown's time in Morgantown. And that type of stuff adds

876
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 3: up over time.

877
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: It just does. Yeah, And I think transfers, and this

878
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 1: is clearly stating the obvious. Transfers on that huge level,

879
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: at such a big number indicate people don't want to

880
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 1: be there and for whatever reason, be it the losing,

881
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: be it the uninspired identity, be it the culture within

882
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: the program, be it the location of the program, be

883
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: it the conference of the program. It's not a big

884
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: long term indicator of a turnaround, of a quick turnaround.

885
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: And so if you were a defensive player, if you're

886
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: van Darius Cowen who's heading to I think Maryland right

887
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: he was? Was he Obama player before West Virginia. This

888
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: is second transfer. You can look that up. You're holding

889
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: teams to sixteen points in losing. You're holding teams to

890
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: eighteen points in a bowl game and losing by scoring.

891
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: I don't think they score a touchdown. I think that

892
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: six was two field goals. You can fact check me

893
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: on that as well. It's just like at a certain

894
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: point you're going to say we're holding up our end

895
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: of the bargain and the offense is has not and

896
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: is not getting better. So that to me is the issue.

897
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: Yeah with West Virginia is there's not a lot you

898
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: can point to in the during the Neil Brown era

899
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: where you're like, this is what this program is and

900
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: that's what excites me. Yeah, and right now it's it's

901
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: it's an attention economy. And god, I sound like a

902
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: dumb tech bro when I say really, but it is

903
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: and Virginia doing to garner attention.

904
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 3: Neil Brown's forty one years old, definitely one of the

905
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 3: younger coaches out there. He's going to go into year

906
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 3: four with a mark of seventeen and eighteen in Morgantown.

907
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 3: That is in start contrast to what he did at Troy,

908
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 3: where the first year was bad and then he won

909
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 3: double digits the next three. Different set of circumstances, obvious, sure,

910
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 3: completely different, but we have not seen that turnaround story

911
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 3: at all with West Virginia. Twenty nineteen five and seven,

912
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six and four weird.

913
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 1: COVID year Make of it what you will.

914
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 3: Last year finished the year six and seven, so by

915
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 3: a large five hundred program under Neil Brown, you need

916
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 3: to see if you can turn things around in good direction.

917
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 3: We take one more question.

918
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: All right, this is from an alpha from Patreon in

919
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: memory of Charles Entenmann. The Unforgettable Fire would like to know, ty,

920
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: did he just recently pass Charles Intemen? I've never heard

921
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: of well Entimates the supermarket brand donuts. You've never heard

922
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: of Entemens. No, it must be weirdly regional. You're you're

923
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: on the outside. Yeah. What is your favorite breakfast pastry

924
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: or your go to breakfast pastry? Yeah? Yeah, talk me

925
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: through your stance on breakfast page. I don't really eat

926
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: in the morning, but that doesn't mean I don't eat

927
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: breakfast pastries, just a different time of day. Yeah, I

928
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: mean I love.

929
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 3: A good a good breakfast pastry.

930
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: I'm a big time fan of it.

931
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 3: I love a good blueberry muffin.

932
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: Okay, talk to me through, talk me through your ideal

933
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: blueberry muffin. Well, the problem that I see with a

934
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: lot of blueberry muffins, as you know, amconnaissur of such

935
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: always they make them too big. That's your complaint. No,

936
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: it's not a complaint, but it's.

937
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 3: Just you just said they're too big. That sounds like

938
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 3: a complaint. It's not intended as a complaint. But you

939
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 3: can't eat those things without a fork and a knife.

940
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 3: It's impossible if you try to eat. If you try

941
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 3: to eat the full blueberry muffin, just by sticking it

942
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 3: in your mouth, you look like you're a barbarian.

943
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: That's true, because they're huge. And then you just rip

944
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:34,720
Speaker 1: off chunks.

945
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 2: Then you get crumbsle over you.

946
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I want I

947
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 3: want the primal blueberry muffin experience. I'm not ripping off chunks.

948
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 3: I'm just sticking the thing in my mouth, Okay, And

949
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 3: so when you make the gargantuan blueberry muffin, that's a problem.

950
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 3: That's my only real if you want to call it complaint,

951
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 3: okay with blueberry muffins, but beyond that, yeah, I like.

952
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 3: I like if I get fresh blueberries in there.

953
00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

954
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 3: I like if they've got have you ever made blueberry muffins?

955
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 1: Pretty easy?

956
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 3: I like if they've got like the sugar flakes on top.

957
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: Always great.

958
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 3: That give you that a little bit extra kick in

959
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 3: the morning, just get you going. I like that, sure,

960
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 3: I like it if they're cold, actually.

961
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: Okay, fresh and blueberry muffin. Yeah, I like it. The

962
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 1: refrigerator whoa okay, unexpected twist.

963
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that, feel like that texture. Do you

964
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 3: have an answer?

965
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: Well, I have blueberry muffin thoughts. If you want to

966
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: talk more blueberry, you talk about whatever you want Dan

967
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: all right in a berry muffin, I want, I want

968
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: something rigid up top, and you you go to the

969
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: temperature for something that that stiffens it a little bit.

970
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: The cold. I would like crystallized sugar or pearl sugar,

971
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: which sort of looks like sesame seeds, but a little

972
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: baking sugar type things. Maybe a strusole presence, you know,

973
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: the sort of clustery, crunchy type elements of a of

974
00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: a muffin. I never hate a strusle top, but I

975
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: I do want that harder top to a muffin if

976
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: I'm in that direction. And yeah, the crystal eye sugar

977
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: or the pearl sugar whatever, I'm great with. I like

978
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: it warm, though, I want that. I want a little

979
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: bit of steam when I opened it up fresh out

980
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: of the oven. Yeah. I'm not a big muffin guy.

981
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: I do like so my go to if I was,

982
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: if I were to be offered any sort of traditional

983
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: breakfast pastry. I want an old fashioned donut, or I

984
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: want like an apple frit or something like that. A

985
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: donut with texture, with ridges with crevasses, that's what I want.

986
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: I like a good lemon muffin, but I haven't found

987
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 1: a lot of good ones that I love. There was

988
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: a place in Brooklyn called Smith Canteen that made the

989
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: best I've ever had rest in peace. No longer there

990
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: the other breakfast that or the pastry that I like,

991
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: you can't find it in a lot of places. Is

992
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: It's my definitively like hipster answer. There is a Swedish

993
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 1: breakfast pastry. It's kind of like a cinnamon roll, but

994
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: it's like a It's if you combined the appearance and

995
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: texture of a garlic knot with the taste of a

996
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: cinnamon roll. We may have stopped off and got one

997
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: of these in Austin together, Okay. It's called so you

998
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: can get it with a with a cardamom presence, okay,

999
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: and that's really good, or just the cinnamon and have

1000
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: the sugar. It's called a canal booler okay, And I'd

1001
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: had never had one before going to this place. Easy

1002
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: Tiger of which you wear an easy tiger hat on

1003
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: the show sometimes down. Yeah, but it goes really well

1004
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: with coffee because it's not iced like a cinnamon roll.

1005
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: So it's it's not that like cinnabun sweet and dripping

1006
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: kind of thing and messy. It's a little bit smaller

1007
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: and more handheld, and you get the texture from the knots.

1008
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: So I think that is my and I like the

1009
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: cardamom version. That is my hipster snobby answer. And then

1010
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: apple fritter or blueberry old fashioned donut if I'm sticking

1011
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 1: with it. I'm not a big wasissanct guy. I like Bobka.

1012
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: Bobka can be good for as a breakfast paste that

1013
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: again has that texture.

1014
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, here's the problem with this question. Yeah, guys, stop

1015
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 3: asking us food questions. Stop stop asking the food questions.

1016
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 2: All right, he likes food. Dan likes food. He's very

1017
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 2: good like the food. Oh, I like food.

1018
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: Everybody likes food.

1019
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:20,919
Speaker 3: But you know food, I don't know anything about any

1020
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 3: of this stuff. I don't I know something that tastes

1021
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 3: good when I that's what I know. I'm looking desperately.

1022
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 3: I can't turn the camera around. I am looking desperately

1023
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,919
Speaker 3: on Google images to find the name of the thing

1024
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 3: that I know I like, but I couldn't think of

1025
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 3: and defaulted to blueberry muffins. Let's just peel back the

1026
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 3: kimono here and let you know what's going on inside

1027
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 3: my head. I am desperately searching for an answer here.

1028
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 3: I looked at these questions beforehand. I still don't know

1029
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 3: the name of the thing that I actually like.

1030
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: Can you describe it? We can all work together.

1031
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 2: It sort of flakes a little bit.

1032
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: But it's not a croissant. It's not a crysant.

1033
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 2: It's bigger.

1034
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: Give me a shape. It could be any.

1035
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 3: Shape square, and it's sort of it doesn't necessarily have

1036
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 3: like a real sweet flavor to it, almost like maybe

1037
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:09,760
Speaker 3: like a cream cheese filling.

1038
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: Okay, of sorts, So is it more savory? Is it

1039
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: a scone? A savory scone? It's not a scone's.

1040
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 3: It's more it's just more of like a cream cheese taste.

1041
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: To it, a cream cheese square, a rectangular, traditional flaky pastry,

1042
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: possibly on the more savory side. Yeah, it's not a

1043
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,919
Speaker 1: pop tart. No, it's not a popart. Did you grow

1044
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: up with pop tarts? By the way, is that a

1045
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: part of your rotation growing up.

1046
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 3: Or currently, say rotation's a bit much, but yes, I mean,

1047
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 3: of course I grew up with pop tarts.

1048
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't really have that many pop I like

1049
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: pop tarts, but I don't really have that many growing up.

1050
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 1: I'm trying to work through this. So it's a flaky

1051
00:54:54,440 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 1: cream cheese breakfast pastry. Flaky cream cheese breakfast pastry.

1052
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 3: Like, I'm sure there's a name for this thing that

1053
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 3: I've got in my head. I don't know what you're

1054
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 3: talking about. A Danish Sure, I guess, No, I guess.

1055
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 3: I don't even know what it Danish is. I don't

1056
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 3: know what the classifications are.

1057
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: For these things. I don't do you feel like it

1058
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 1: is a like specifically like Germanic type influence, that it's

1059
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: like unique to Eastern PA. It looks like Danish is

1060
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: the right answer here. Yeah, okay, I like Danish are delicious.

1061
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: There it is. I'm a I'm a big Danish fan.

1062
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 3: But other than that, I don't like. I don't ask

1063
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 3: the food questions. I don't know the answers to them.

1064
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 3: I'm always be essing my way through them always of

1065
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 3: the time.

1066
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: Can I ask you another question? Only it's not about food. No,

1067
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 1: it's about food. It's about breakfast pastries. I'm positive you've

1068
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 1: had this or seen this, and I just want your

1069
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: opinion on it. How do you feel about crumb slash

1070
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 1: coffee cake? I do like that, of course.

1071
00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: It's so good.

1072
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you ever have good molasses cake? Is that typically

1073
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 1: eating for breakfast? You can't eat it for breakfast? I

1074
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: mean you can mo hiper eats pumpkin pie for breakfast. Yeah,

1075
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: any paper breakfast yeah. Um, molasses cake. Yeah, I've heard

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00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: of shoefly pie, which is a molasses pie.

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00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no.

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00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 1: Molasses cake, molasses cake, breakfast, molasses breakfast cake. I mean

1079
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: that looks very heavy. It looks extremely heavy. Yeah. No,

1080
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 1: it'll take you through all the way till like three pm.

1081
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 1: Gives you sort of like a gingerbready vibe. Yeah, oh yeah,

1082
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: ginger vibe. Okay, yeah, No, I've never done that for breakfast,

1083
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: but it looks great now. Crumb cake Entiman's crumb cake.

1084
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,479
Speaker 1: To be specific with this question, it's so good.

1085
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 3: I have a very limited field of view. People need

1086
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 3: to understand this about I have a very limited field

1087
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 3: of view when it comes to food.

1088
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 2: Really, when it.

1089
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 1: Comes to life.

1090
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 2: Are we talking sports? Are we talking tech? Are we

1091
00:56:58,560 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 2: talking space?

1092
00:56:59,600 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: Like?

1093
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 3: These are things that are very much in the wheelhouse,

1094
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 3: but sure, anything in the food world, forget it. Just

1095
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 3: I'm tapping out. I'm getting frustrated here tapping You've.

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00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: Made You've made all sorts of discoveries food wise in

1097
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: the last five years that you've been very happy with.

1098
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know why.

1099
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 3: It's been because of you, And it's been because of

1100
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 3: solid wife Kate. On my own, I am a rube.

1101
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 3: I have no idea about any of this stuff.

1102
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: I'm feeling here. I'm gonna lose my voice. It's okay.

1103
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 3: I have no idea about any of this stuff. So

1104
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 3: I have you to thank for avocados.

1105
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: Avocados. Of all things avocado. I can tell you is

1106
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: everybody is a rube until they're not. If you make

1107
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: an effort to try new things, which I think you do,

1108
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: then you're at a rube.

1109
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 3: For fourteen years, I'm answering food questions. I don't know

1110
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 3: a damn thing about any of it. Nothing make me up.

1111
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: Agree barbecue a couple of years ago that you loved

1112
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: it's great.

1113
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 3: Don't know anything about that either. It tastes good. Yeah,

1114
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 3: but people are like, what's your specific parents?

1115
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1116
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: I have heard what about? What about?

1117
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 3: Now?

1118
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: I forget what I was going to ask, but oh yeah,

1119
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: you just found it, like a great Italian deli nearby.

1120
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: I did like a meatball parm.

1121
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 3: But I know Italian food. I'm from an Italian fan.

1122
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 3: Joy that I know pizza. Actually, I sort of know.

1123
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: We gotta get you to Italy, man, you know Italian

1124
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: American food. That's just what I know. I don't know

1125
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: Italian Italian Italian food all that well at all, which

1126
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: I'd like to know more. Yeah, I'm with you on

1127
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: that front. Yeah, all right, we got to keep this going.

1128
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: We have a bunch of questions about pants, about sauces,

1129
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: more about college football, about child rearing, about marriage, ty.

1130
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: We got a lot to talk about. I know so

1131
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: much about child rearing.

1132
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 2: I'm ready.

1133
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 3: I'm rearing to go, and I'm getting warmed up now.

1134
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm all woe.

1135
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 2: The juice is flowing here.

1136
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1137
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is agitated. This is I'm agitated.

1138
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1139
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: Okay, So to everybody listening to this show who is

1140
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: not a subscribing member of our patreon at Verballers dot

1141
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: com one you could be, we'd love to have you two.

1142
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: It's okay if you're not, but thanks for listening and

1143
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: we're going to see you next week. We're going to

1144
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: keep this show going for those of you who are subscribers,

1145
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: and that's all I have. For those those incredibly good

1146
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: looking people who listen to the show thus.

1147
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 2: Far, join us for Part two.

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00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 3: Yes over on the Patreon Forballers dot com, starting now,