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Speaker 1: Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: In hour number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We

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Speaker 2: are live in New York City as we have been

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Speaker 2: all week long. Appreciate all of you out there listening

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Speaker 2: to us all over the country. We'll get into some

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Speaker 2: of the takeaways, but had a lot of fun at

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Speaker 2: the stephen A.

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Speaker 1: Smith debate. We'll get Bucks take on it as well.

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Speaker 2: We got some cuts that I think are actually interesting

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Speaker 2: from a political process.

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Speaker 1: That we will play later in this hour.

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Speaker 2: But here right off the top, we talked an hour

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Speaker 2: one about the clear motivations becoming a parent. I know

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Speaker 2: all of you were aware Charlie Kirk was not killed

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Speaker 2: by a right winger. He was not killed because he

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Speaker 2: wasn't right wing enough. He wasn't killed, as Jamel Hill,

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Speaker 2: formerly of ESPN said, by part of a white supremacist

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Speaker 2: gang hit. This is what she tweeted Buck Now she

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Speaker 2: since deleted it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if he was in a maximum security prison,

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Speaker 3: maybe that story would make some sense. But that's insane,

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Speaker 3: that's truly. Let's lunatic stuff, absolute lunatic stuff. A white

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Speaker 3: supremacist gang hit, according to Jamel Hill. But what are

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Speaker 3: they saying on CNN?

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Speaker 2: I want to play a couple of these cuts because

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Speaker 2: they're telling you things that are one false And I

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Speaker 2: want to ask Buck's opinion on this. I don't understand

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Speaker 2: how you could have these takes and be on the

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Speaker 2: internet at all. First, here is CNN's host Abby Phillip

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Speaker 2: arguing with Scott Jennings about people celebrating Charlie Kirk's murder

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Speaker 2: cut thirty four.

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Speaker 4: Everybody here acknowledges that there have been thousands upon thousands

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Speaker 4: of people, ordinary people who have taken to social media

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Speaker 4: to celebrate this.

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Speaker 1: Yes or no, I.

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Speaker 5: Don't know about that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I just we should just there's we've got to be

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Speaker 5: factual about this, right. I don't think you know the scope.

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Speaker 5: I don't know the scope, but I do think that

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Speaker 5: we have to distinguish between random people in the world

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Speaker 5: and something that is a dominant issue.

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Speaker 1: Because the person who people a random person in the world.

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Speaker 6: Well, here's the thing here, it's the danger that you

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Speaker 6: dismissed the random people of the world.

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Speaker 5: They have access assassinations in this country. There have been

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Speaker 5: political assassinations in this country before, Scott, wouldn't you agree,

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Speaker 5: And they're all reprehensible and in this country do you

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Speaker 5: believe that in those political assassinations in the sixties and

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Speaker 5: the seventies and the eighties assassination attempts, that there were

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Speaker 5: no Americans who cheered that on. I think the question anything,

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Speaker 5: the question is whether or not. It's not whether or

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Speaker 5: not it happens. The question is whether or not we

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Speaker 5: need to place that at the very center of our

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Speaker 5: political world right now and categorize half the people in

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Speaker 5: the country according to those random people that we've now

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Speaker 5: just happened to see because of the Internet.

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Speaker 3: We do have to put that in the center of

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Speaker 3: our political world. By the way, because it.

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Speaker 2: Is she initially you did that there were thousands and

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Speaker 2: thousands of people. I actually think Scott Jennings was being

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Speaker 2: very lenient in his numbering. Certainly there's tens of thousands.

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Speaker 2: I think there's hundreds of thousands. There may well be millions.

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Speaker 2: So to say, oh, we don't know that there's thousands, again,

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Speaker 2: they're trying to minimize what is going on.

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Speaker 1: Here is MSNBC.

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Speaker 2: This is brandy Za drown Z And I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: if I got that name right, but she is on MSNBC.

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Speaker 2: You don't know Brandy's I'm not familiar with her work.

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Speaker 2: I don't know her whole catalog, but she says, to

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Speaker 2: suggest people on the Internet are cheering for the murder

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Speaker 2: of Charlie Kirk is actually the total opposite of what's

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Speaker 2: actually happening.

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Speaker 1: This is what she said, cut thirty five.

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Speaker 7: If you look across media generally, you have seen a

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Speaker 7: lot of people trying to grapple with Charlie Kirk's legacy

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Speaker 7: and what that is as a right wing agitator and

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Speaker 7: as a provocateur and as you know, a strategist and

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Speaker 7: the most important GOP figure besides Donald Trump arguably ever

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Speaker 7: and so or right now, and so there's a lot

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Speaker 7: of grappling to do. But to suggest that the internet

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Speaker 7: is cheering for this is just the opposite, total opposite

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Speaker 7: of what's actually happening.

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Speaker 3: No, actually, that's from reading the internet, and that's from

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Speaker 3: going on discord, and I'm clay. This is one of

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Speaker 3: the reasons why I did it the night the night

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Speaker 3: of meaning like we knew that he was dead that night,

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Speaker 3: I just spent I don't know how, I felt like

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Speaker 3: an eternity just going through Blue Sky. Going through Blue Sky,

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Speaker 3: I downloaded the app. I didn'tven have it on my

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Speaker 3: phone because I obviously don't want to support that lunacy,

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Speaker 3: but I had to see it with my own eyes,

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Speaker 3: telling I mean, I know, you know that, Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: thousands and thousands of people cheering, high fiving, making horrific jokes,

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Speaker 3: saying horrible things about his widow. I mean, these people

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Speaker 3: are sick maniacs. And some of them, you can say, oh,

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Speaker 3: they're not. You know, anchors on CNN, some of them

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Speaker 3: have a lot of followers. There are people that have

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Speaker 3: This is something else we all need to understand. There

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Speaker 3: are people online who have far more influence in political conversation.

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Speaker 3: There are many of them than any of these these

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Speaker 3: anchors on ABC. Look at they're empty suits. No person

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Speaker 3: about what these these they're basically like glorified male models,

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Speaker 3: and you know female models. I mean, they have absolutely

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Speaker 3: no gravitas with the public anymore. And when you see

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Speaker 3: who is saying this stuff and the kind of the

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Speaker 3: kind of following they have, it's really really disconcerting. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's pretty scary, honestly that we have to share a

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Speaker 3: them out there, and one of the things, you know,

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Speaker 3: Ezra Kline's getting all this pushback from and I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: tell you Ezra Clin has said some horrible things in

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Speaker 3: the past. I just just I want to remind people

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Speaker 3: because I've been in this game a long time. I've

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Speaker 3: got fifteen years of institutional memory about conservative media and

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Speaker 3: the Libs and how they used to be right. They're

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Speaker 3: gonna be sixteen years this, June Clay. It's just been

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Speaker 3: too long. It's wild. So Asra client, I remember when

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Speaker 3: they were trying when the whole Me Too thing was happening, said,

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Speaker 3: you know, the rape laws should be so stringent that

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Speaker 3: even people who are innocent are going to get caught

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Speaker 3: up in it. But that's the price we have to pay.

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Speaker 3: When it came to consent and non consent, I was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: so someone should have their life ruine to be considered

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Speaker 3: a rapist as part of the collateral damage of the

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Speaker 3: Me too movement. He said that on TV. I remember that,

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Speaker 3: So I'm whether he apologize for it later, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: but he has said some horrible things in this case.

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Speaker 3: In this case, he is saying that he you know,

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Speaker 3: in this op ed that he wrote, He said, you

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Speaker 3: can just condemn a political assassination without then all this

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Speaker 3: don't agree, but you know he's a white national supremacist

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Speaker 3: and all stuff. No, you can just say we don't

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Speaker 3: agree with political murder in this country. And that's actually

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Speaker 3: a core value of being an American. And this is

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Speaker 3: the test the left is failing. This is where Democrats

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Speaker 3: are showing us who they really are in millions of cases.

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Speaker 2: Let me play one more cut to to give you

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Speaker 2: a sense. This was CNN last night our friend Senator

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Speaker 2: Ted Cruz on with Caitlyn Collins, and Caitlyn Collins says, well,

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Speaker 2: we don't know any motive in the Charlie Kirk killing,

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Speaker 2: and it got heated from there. Listen to cut sixteen.

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Speaker 6: We don't have a motive yet, we don't know yet.

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Speaker 6: We're waiting. Obviously we've heard what the governors had to

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Speaker 6: say with the course direct motive.

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Speaker 4: Yet we know we don't have a motive yet. What's

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Speaker 4: happening with real position. He just happened to fire the

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Speaker 4: gun and celebration. You can't tell the motive.

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Speaker 6: Senator, That's not what I said and I said law

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Speaker 6: enforcement hasn't laid out a direct motive. They laid out

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Speaker 6: a lot of evidence here of these messages and.

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Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk, pardon.

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Speaker 6: Senator, with all due respect, you know exactly what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: I'm not arguing with you politically. I'm saying that law

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Speaker 6: enforcement has not put a specific motive. You know that

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Speaker 6: there's a difference of what they're putting in a legal work.

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Speaker 6: They have that and know what you're talking about and

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Speaker 6: are not even we're not about the.

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Speaker 4: Fact is false, Senator, fact hold on, say let me

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Speaker 4: answer your statement, because what you said is respect law

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Speaker 4: enforce your You don't want to that I did.

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Speaker 6: Not say, and I want to get back to.

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Speaker 3: You the facts of all I mean this is like,

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Speaker 3: this is like watching an NBA player go one on

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Speaker 3: I'm just just being honest in terms of debate and

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Speaker 3: and intellectual rigor. Clay, we watched the air it prossec

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Speaker 3: and in this case they're side of the bad guys.

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Speaker 3: That's the truth. Their ideas, they're Oh, if you don't

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Speaker 2: This is if you're wondering, this was actually during the

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Speaker 2: Utah County DA Jeff Gray. In addition to the text

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Speaker 2: messages which Buck read for you an hour one that

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Speaker 2: we discussed here, he is yesterday saying. Suspect's mother says

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Speaker 8: Robinson's mother explained that over the last year or so,

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Speaker 2: Okay, so they tried to say always too far right wing.

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Speaker 2: Then on Saturday, Fox News breaks the story that his

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Speaker 2: roommate is a man who is deciding to become a woman.

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Speaker 1: And we said back, and we said, ah, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, number of Trump voters who are dating or hooking

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Speaker 2: up with a man pretending to be a woman. I

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Speaker 2: think a fairly small number. Maybe there's some, but there's

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Speaker 2: not that many of them. And in conjunction with writing

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Speaker 2: all of these slogans on the bullets as a part

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Speaker 2: of the murder, and in addition to even though it

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Speaker 2: sounds suspect in some ways, the text messages there is

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Speaker 2: zero doubt about what the motive is.

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Speaker 1: Also, might I just add the decision.

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Speaker 2: To murder someone at a free speech event while they

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Speaker 2: are discussing all different sorts of issues is a sign

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Speaker 2: of general animus. You know, they're still saying this about

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Speaker 2: the guy who tried to kill Trump, who we remember

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Speaker 2: know virtually nothing about. Right, they're still saying right now, well,

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Speaker 2: we don't really know why he did it.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, just a general idea.

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Speaker 2: If you prepare an assassination attempt and if you kill someone,

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 3: We have every line Litz, so let's get some calls here.

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Speaker 3: Kathy in Florida, welcome, Hello, have a question? Hello, Yeah,

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Speaker 9: I just have a question. I don't really understand or

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Speaker 9: I feel like it's foolish that we've released all the

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Speaker 9: Well because of the way they're spinning it, like this guy.

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Speaker 2: Clay, Yeah, I agree. I also think this is a

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay, Travis, Buck, Sexton show up in

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Speaker 2: Not so anyway, we started there, and there were a

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Speaker 11: if you are willing to admit you sincerely, ninety nine

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Speaker 11: percent doubt that you would ever run for office, And

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Speaker 11: that's one.

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Speaker 3: Of the most I'm running for president answers I've ever

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Speaker 3: heard of my life. Look, I'm amazing. My life is amazing.

441
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Speaker 3: I don't want to deal with the nonsense of politics.

442
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Speaker 3: What everybody needs me, So maybe I'm gonna have to

443
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Speaker 3: step up and run.

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Speaker 2: He makes forty million dollars a year right now, according

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Speaker 2: to the New York Times report that's out today from ESPN,

446
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Speaker 2: in from satellite radio. He's got a new politics channel

447
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Speaker 2: on SERIOUSXM. So this would challenge your thesis, Buck that

448
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Speaker 2: nobody ever loses by running, because I don't know if

449
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Speaker 2: you could take a salary to sixty million a year.

450
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Speaker 2: I don't know where you just tap out. The dollars

451
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Speaker 2: aren't any higher. But unlike someone who say owns a company,

452
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Speaker 2: when you work for labor, you and I work for labor.

453
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Speaker 2: We have to show up and work we're not just

454
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Speaker 2: owners of companies that don't require us to be out working.

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Speaker 2: To give up a forty million dollar a year job

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Speaker 2: for a four hundred thousand dollars a year job, not

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Speaker 2: very many people do it.

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Speaker 3: Well, they would take him back. First of all, he's

459
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Speaker 3: not gonna win, so we're talking about really a max

460
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Speaker 3: Vanity project. Yeah, he's not gonna win. So it'd be

461
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Speaker 3: an eighteen month long process that he would have to

462
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Speaker 3: I assume you have to step away from ESPN. I

463
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Speaker 3: don't really know. I think the broader part of this

464
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Speaker 3: is I stand by my theesis, which is that people

465
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Speaker 3: run for president now as part of a brand enhancement project.

466
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Speaker 3: It used to be you'd have these people who would

467
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Speaker 3: run who had no chance, and it was always but

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Speaker 3: they're an important voice in the conversation.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 3: You say, well, I don't know if like pulling it

471
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Speaker 3: zero point three percent of the national vote makes you

472
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Speaker 3: an important voice in the conversation. Maybe it does. But

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Speaker 3: now I think it's become more clear than ever before

474
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Speaker 3: that people running. I mean, look like vivek Ran basically

475
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Speaker 3: telling everybody vote for Donald Trump. But I'm running because

476
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Speaker 3: this is a great way to have a lot of

477
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Speaker 3: people here about Viveke and it worked for him. I

478
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Speaker 3: mean I at the time and still a poll this

479
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Speaker 3: thought that it was quite a strange move from the

480
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Speaker 3: perspective of you're not going to be president like Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: If you're saying the guy that is running that everyone's

482
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Speaker 3: going to vote for is going to be your mentor

483
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Speaker 3: when you're president, you're accepting that he's going to be

484
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Speaker 3: the president and you're not. But that was really the

485
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Speaker 3: pinnacle of or that reach that was peak. This is

486
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Speaker 3: brand and attention seeking instead of I actually am going

487
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Speaker 3: to run at least on the right or I'm going

488
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Speaker 3: to win rather and I think that you'll see more

489
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Speaker 3: and more of that. So you know, look, steven A,

490
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Speaker 3: by the way, I think steven A would get some

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Speaker 3: I mean I think he would get some support. I

492
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Speaker 3: think he would be one of these candidates again thinking

493
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Speaker 3: I don't know who the Democrats are we're gonna run,

494
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Speaker 3: but you know, I would soon think you'd see him

495
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Speaker 3: getting in the top five, maybe the top three. The

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Speaker 3: Democrats are gonna have a it's gonna be a whole

497
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Speaker 3: bus load of candidates the next time around. Because again

498
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Speaker 3: it's even for politicians it's national recognition and if you

499
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Speaker 3: can get on that debate stage. So I don't think

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Speaker 3: he would be a joke candidate at all. I don't

501
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Speaker 3: think he would win. But people said that about Donald

502
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Speaker 3: Trump too, so you can't. You can't discount any anybody

503
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Speaker 3: who has charisma, some funding for themselves. You know that

504
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Speaker 3: makes it really a lot easier and an insatiable willingness

505
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Speaker 3: to put themselves out there can run for president and

506
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Speaker 3: be taken seriously. Now you know that that's where we are.

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Speaker 2: And they grabbed me saying if Steven A ran, I

508
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Speaker 2: would run against him and kick his ass, which is

509
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Speaker 2: very fun. And here was cut eleven from that debate.

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Speaker 2: If Stephen A runs, I'll run and I'll kick his ass,

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Speaker 2: all right, really quickly.

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Speaker 1: No, he wouldn't. He'd get his ass kicked.

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Speaker 11: And let me tell you why, because he's somewhat rigid.

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Speaker 11: In other words, you'd appeal to your base.

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Speaker 3: No doubt.

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Speaker 11: But I'm more of a centrist with the capability to

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Speaker 11: appeal to both sides, so he'd get a segment of

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Speaker 11: the country.

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Speaker 1: I'd get everything around.

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Speaker 3: Well, let me, I actually will give a little political

521
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Speaker 3: analysis of this year. I don't think he's familiar with

522
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Speaker 3: your conversion, with your past, with where you've come from politically,

523
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Speaker 3: So I think that he just thinks talk radio and

524
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 3: assumes he would maybe be more right saying that about me.

525
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Speaker 3: But you you know, being like that guy's a right

526
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Speaker 3: wing maniac. But you look at it, as you've said,

527
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Speaker 3: you you are somebody who has had a political transformation

528
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Speaker 3: in the last decade, and so you understand people that

529
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Speaker 3: are now looking people who are saying, oh wait, the

530
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 3: Democrat Party is insane. You can, by the way, you're

531
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Speaker 3: not allowed to run for president. Let's just get this clear. Okay,

532
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Speaker 3: you have a job here. But I'm just saying I

533
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 3: disagree with his political analysis of that because I think

534
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Speaker 3: that he, uh, well, look, he's a great entertainer, and

535
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Speaker 3: he was very cordial to you on that stage and

536
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 3: very respectful. So I appreciate that. I'm not really familiar.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm one of the rare Americans I think

538
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Speaker 3: who's not familiar with his work really at all, because

539
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 3: I don't watch sports commentary. But he acquitted himself incredibly

540
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Speaker 3: well and was respectful to you. But I think that

541
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Speaker 3: he thinks you're more right, Like, it's not that you're

542
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 3: not right wing, but I think that he doesn't understand

543
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Speaker 3: the connectivity that you have to people in the center.

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Speaker 2: I think that's true, and I think there's tons of

545
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 2: people out there listening right now that are like me.

546
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm willing to admit when I'm wrong on something.

547
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Speaker 2: And I look out there and COVID was in many

548
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Speaker 2: ways radical eye and I think there are a lot

549
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Speaker 2: of people that recognize that. And then the Charlie Kirk assassination,

550
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Speaker 2: I think there are people out there, probably tens of

551
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Speaker 2: thousands of you that are listening to us right now

552
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 2: that might not have listened before. I've heard from a

553
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 2: lot of people that just say, man, the world is

554
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: more toxic than I realized. And that is a moment

555
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: of toxicity that it's almost impossible not to be thinking

556
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 2: about on a deeper level than just what you saw.

557
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Speaker 3: I would offer that the Charlie Kirk assassination aftermath, the

558
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,959
Speaker 3: responses that we've seen, it's not that it is radicalizing.

559
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Speaker 3: It is clarifying. This is making it clear to everybody

560
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Speaker 3: what the stakes are, what the stakes are, what the

561
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 3: teams are, who stands for what? This is giving you

562
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 3: real clarity. Every single one of you who listens to

563
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 3: us knows you know this and you know God for

564
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 3: but this, ever actually happens the Democrat was assassinated, we

565
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Speaker 3: would condemn it and there would not be all this

566
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 3: throat clearing about, oh, well, you know Senator so and so,

567
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Speaker 3: I don't like some of the bills that he voted for.

568
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Speaker 3: I'm not happy that he was you know, harm physically

569
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Speaker 3: or whatever. But I know we would just say that's

570
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Speaker 3: absolutely beyond the pale. You know, the person should be

571
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Speaker 3: prosecuted the fullest extent of the law. Part of the

572
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Speaker 3: reality here is that doesn't happen to left wing people,

573
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Speaker 3: and I hope it still doesn't. But we've had to

574
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Speaker 3: deal with this now on the right numerous times, and

575
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Speaker 3: the celebration of violence against people who are on the

576
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Speaker 3: right in this country. This is a pattern. It is

577
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Speaker 3: far too clear, and like I said, this is the

578
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Speaker 3: clarifying moment.

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Speaker 2: One more cut and then we'll take some of your

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Speaker 2: calls reactions as we roll into the third hour. Here

581
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Speaker 2: was Stephen a cut four. I think he had some

582
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Speaker 2: nice things to say about me.

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Speaker 11: What I like about Clay is this Clay is the

584
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Speaker 11: kind of person that will pick up on that unspoken

585
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Speaker 11: pressure that we don't allude to, and he'll bring it up.

586
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Speaker 11: It gives you the license to say, Ah, there we go.

587
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Speaker 11: That's the question I was waiting for, because folks don't

588
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Speaker 11: really realize what I'm going through. And if more white commentators, pundits,

589
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Speaker 11: people in positions of power really really understood the sensitive

590
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Speaker 11: pressure that emanates from our communities and how they're trying

591
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Speaker 11: to compel us to speak more about this issue, which

592
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Speaker 11: forces us to do so, then you'd have a greater

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Speaker 11: understanding as to why folks choose to address those subjects.

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Speaker 2: What I would say, too, in response to that, is

595
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Speaker 2: to actually some of the white guys in the NBA

596
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Speaker 2: that are the most outspoken politically, Steve Kerr, Greg Popovich

597
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Speaker 2: and I just think.

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Speaker 1: It's a bad look for the NBA.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: One other thing, but a couple of things we didn't

601
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Speaker 2: have fall back and forth. We got into a discussion.

602
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Speaker 2: You and I talked about this afterwards about the Washington

603
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Speaker 2: Redskins name, and Steven A said, well, if Native Americans

604
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Speaker 2: have decided that name's offensive, I think they should get

605
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Speaker 2: to make that choice. We've talked about this quite a

606
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Speaker 2: lot on the program, but I didn't say it during

607
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Speaker 2: the discussion because it didn't circle back to me. There's

608
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Speaker 2: not a clarity or a consistency necessarily from the Native

609
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Speaker 2: American community about the Redskins Moniker about that nickname. In fact,

610
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Speaker 2: there are lots of Native Americans who saw it as

611
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Speaker 2: a symbol of honor, much like the Florida State seminoles

612
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Speaker 2: is seen as a symbol of honor. And both the

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Indians the Washington Redskins they came after the Atlanta

614
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Speaker 2: Braves Kansas City Chiefs. That doesn't end, and I think

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Speaker 2: it's not definitive that everybody who's Native American has the

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Speaker 2: same opinion. In fact, there are some studies that suggest

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Speaker 2: that Native Americans actually see the Redskins name and the

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Speaker 2: logo as somewhat beneficial or a positive reflection of their overall.

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Speaker 3: That's really straightforward. Do you name teams about things that

620
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Speaker 3: you respect, think are cool and love, or do you

621
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Speaker 3: name teams about things that you demean? We all know,

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Speaker 3: you know, same thing with like Apache helicopters and the

623
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Speaker 3: Comanche system and all this. The gep Cherokee is is

624
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Speaker 3: that out of respect for the warrior culture that those

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Speaker 3: people's had or is it. Is it meant to, you know,

626
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Speaker 3: defame and demean them. This is very straightforward.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's what I'll said, Sam, And of.

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Speaker 3: Course, in the sports context, the same thing we cheer

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Speaker 3: for sports teams. We're not laughing at the sports teams.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to detigrate your sports team. So I

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Speaker 2: think it is a name of honor. But we'll take

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Speaker 2: some of your calls and continue to update you. We

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Speaker 2: should mention as well, for those of you out there

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Speaker 3: today and let's do. Jason in Mesa, Arizona, what's up, Jason?

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Speaker 9: Hi?

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Speaker 3: I love your show. Guys, thank you.

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Speaker 8: I think you're onto something with the With the text,

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Speaker 8: it sounds almost I thought about it earlier this morning.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like a script for somebody inside of.

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Speaker 1: A bank robbery. They called nine to eleven and they

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Speaker 1: don't want to They want to give their location away,

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Speaker 4: Oh yes, mister robber, I'll put my hands in the

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Speaker 4: air here at the US Bank at ninth and twelve.

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Speaker 1: It just seems weird.

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Speaker 3: We're with you, Jay, it just seems that's the way

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Speaker 3: to describe it. Totally agree, it just seems weird. It's

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Speaker 3: off to be concerned. As I said, Jason, I think

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Speaker 3: you probably heard this. Why would you be concerned about

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Speaker 3: But why would be concerned about that? But then script

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Speaker 2: I just why would you not have a phone call if.

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Speaker 3: You was a more intimate anyway we're talking this is

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Speaker 1: Over, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: If you're trying to convey information of a sensitive nature,

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Speaker 2: how often at work do you sometimes see let's meet

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Speaker 2: in person about this, yeah, instead of putting it in

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Speaker 2: an email. Why would you text all this stuff unless

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Speaker 3: Let's play BB Here Don from California listens on k

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Speaker 3: We don't want to lose.

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Speaker 12: But and plus you know you already made your money

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Speaker 3: But you can play around with it. But don't run

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Speaker 3: Clay all right, We don't worry. Don We're not letting

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Speaker 3: him run. It's not happening. Lara Travis is gonna put

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Speaker 3: the Kai bosh on that.

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Speaker 2: Lara Travis is very antiv being involved in any political office.

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Speaker 1: So you, for better or worse, you got me here.

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Speaker 1: Would we come back?

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