1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: My perspective is that I am a quarterback and that's 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: what that's what I think I'll be able to do 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: long term. But I also want to be able to 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: help this team out as much as I can. So 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: I think that's where, um, it's exciting to be able 6 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: to have some opportunities to be able to get on 7 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: the field special teams and make some plays and and 8 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: try and you know, be a difference Baker. Some of 9 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: the other quarterbacks are getting taken off the board, and 10 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: then you start wondering what's going on, like you know, 11 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: what's being talked about and that sort of stuff. So 12 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: you know, you end up just getting that call and 13 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: then everything's just like a weight off your shoulders. And 14 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: end up having a couple of big wins and beat 15 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: Ohio State and felt that no one everyone was doubting us, 16 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: no one thought that we could. You know, I don't 17 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: thought we could beat Ohouse State and much later to 18 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: the High State guy, yeah, I remember the game. I 19 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: didn't mean to keep doing that. Now that I will 20 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: welcome into the lounge. Many campus over o t A 21 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: s are over, but it ain't over for the rookies. 22 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: The rookies and the podcast guys. That's right. They keep 23 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: long hours. Man. The rookie start early and then late 24 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: they get about I guess four weeks off, three or 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: four weeks. Yeah, so uh a free weekend before training. Yeah, 26 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,279 Speaker 1: long weekend. We took advantage and we got Trace McSorley, 27 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: our new quarterback out of Penn State, sixth round pick. 28 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: He's gonna come in and join us. But before we 29 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: get into that interview, Garrett, we're a little disappointed, quite frankly, 30 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: with the response or lack thereof, that we got from 31 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: our hot takes on summer beers. Some great suggestions, even 32 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: though I couldn't remember mind any eventually came back with him. 33 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: But where where where's all the emails with and deliveries? 34 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: Deliveries most importantly more importantly, uh so, yeah, we we 35 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: need to see those coming. In the lounge at Ravens 36 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: NFL dot net. Yeah, we we lay out what we 37 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: like and one of the best parts, and one thing 38 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: that we always like is getting the emails from our 39 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: listeners about your favorite suggestions. Because I'm always down to 40 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: try a new beer. So you send in your emails 41 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: to the lounge at Ravens on NFL dot net and now, 42 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I've got a new idea and 43 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: knew something else to try. But if you don't say anything, 44 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: that's true. We did get we did get a little 45 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: delivery in house de livery from Diamondback. Yes, yes, have 46 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: you had your ship? I have not. I need to 47 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: make sure that you don't take it. I gotta go 48 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: check anyway, it's uh. You know we're going into summer mode, 49 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: and uh, I'll share this little story from the over 50 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:47,119 Speaker 1: the weekend. You know, I like to go outside, get 51 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: some exercise, take the kiddo outside. Uh. But for the 52 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: second time in two months, s Garrett, I have been 53 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: pooped on by a bird on my head. You know, 54 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: is this I understand this might be good luck. There 55 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: are a lot of people that say that's good luck. 56 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: It seems like pretty crappy. Look to me, it's a 57 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: good one. It's funny you say that because you brought 58 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: that up. And uh, my wife also got pooped on 59 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: by a bird. Christie got pooped on by a bird 60 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: over the weekend. And she was saying, I don't know 61 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: anyone else that's been pooped on by a bird. And 62 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: then you come in a day later and say, I 63 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: got pooped on by a bird. Me and Christie go 64 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: walking around the inner harbor. You're gonna see a flock 65 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: of birds. The first one was a hawk, I got 66 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: my eye anymore. I don't got my eyes on that sucker. 67 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: The second one, I'm not sure. I think it was smaller. Okay, 68 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,839 Speaker 1: maybe pigeon. Yeah, alright, enough enough bird poop talk. Let's 69 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: get into something that people actually want to listen to, 70 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: and that is our interview with quarterback Trace mc stortley. Alright, Trace, 71 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: so we have to start off this interview by asking 72 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: did you bring any cupcakes or cookies from your mom? Right? No, 73 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: not yet for the team or for us, for nobody. 74 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: What's up with that? She just doesn't have the kitchen 75 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: fired up yet. She doesn't have fired up yet. And 76 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: usually that starts like would start at least back at 77 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: school during the season. So, well, we'll see what happens 78 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: come come this season. Have any offensive lineman picked up 79 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: on that? Are they already? Kind of? It hasn't been 80 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: brought up, No, not at all, alright, and until it 81 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: got brought up to see what happened, So I knows, 82 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: maybe after this people hear about it and get brought 83 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: up now was wondering, basically, was it every game your 84 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: mom would basically make cupcakes and treat h started all 85 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: the way back in high school. My mom would do it, 86 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: and in high school would just be like candy bars 87 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: or something for the offensive line. Um. But then you 88 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: when we went to college, my mom thought she had 89 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: a step her game up, and you know, guys are 90 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: a little bit bigger. So she did like cupcakes and 91 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: found like bakeries in town and stuff like that. She 92 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily make them on her own. She would just 93 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: find bakers and stuff like that, especially when we'd go 94 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: on away games. Um, she'd find something local out there 95 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: too to give to the offensive line so they'd have 96 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: that to snack the night before the game. My mom 97 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: just liked that because she always wanted to give the 98 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: old line tree. She felt like, those guys don't get 99 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: their names in the paper and all that stuff, but 100 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: they're a huge part of the offense and success of 101 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: the team. So she wanted to give those guys like 102 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: make sure that they know that she appreciates them and 103 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: that they're getting some love. To wet a little bit 104 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: of that smart smart. So I I also did not 105 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: know this in doing some research on you, that your 106 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: actual name is not Trace, but you are Richard makes really. 107 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: Now we have a lot of guys with the numerals 108 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: and their names on this team. You got r G three, 109 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: pl Thomas, relic sneed mark Ingram, Tony, Jefferson. You could 110 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: be a part of that crew. Just just toss it 111 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: out there. You don't want you don't want to, you 112 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: don't want to do that. I've thought about it. I 113 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: think kind of going by Trace, I think that kind 114 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: of takes the place of the third That's kind of 115 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: how I got to be called Trace. Um. If I 116 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: went by Richard or Wreck or something like that, I 117 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: probably what we would. But because I go by Trace, 118 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: I think feel like that kind of takes the place 119 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: of the third Um. But I thought about it, and 120 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: I know it would like look cool to have like 121 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: the third on the back of the jersey. So I mean, 122 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: we'll see maybe at some point they decide or something. 123 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,239 Speaker 1: I don't know. How do you get the name Trace? Uh? 124 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: So I was like, I mean I was born in 125 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: late August, so a couple of weeks old. Um, my 126 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: dad was he's happening, would just be watching a football game, 127 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: they start talking about Trace Armstrong was playing at the time, 128 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: and his name was is not Trace, but he's the 129 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: third so they called him Trace. So that's kind of 130 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: where my dad got the idea, UM, and like my 131 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: my mom like didn't enjoyed it. And since then, I've 132 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: been Trace yet football has been kind of the blood 133 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: since since the beginning. So what's it like, you know, 134 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: make the transition to the NFL. I how do you 135 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: feel like it's going so far, and what's been the 136 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: biggest challenge. It's been good. I think it's been awesome 137 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: to have a lot of the veteran guys, you guys 138 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: like arg three and Lamar that have gone through, especially 139 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: for me, um, guys that I could ask questions off 140 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: and learn from right now and kind of help with 141 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: the transition. So it's been really cool. And then just 142 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: getting to kind of bond with the you know, rookies, 143 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: like especially this time where it's just us in the building, uh, 144 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: you know, bond with those guys and start forming those 145 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: bonds before we get into training camp and being around 146 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: guys on the team, starting to work out and kind 147 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: of get that kind of stuff with Steve under our 148 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: belts I think it's just, uh, it's been a really 149 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: good transition. I think, you know, we've been helped out 150 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: a lot as rookies by you know, the strength staff 151 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: and coaches as far as how they've approached making sure 152 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: that we're up the speed by the time we're ready 153 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: to get on the field. So I think it's been 154 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: really good and really helpful from everyone or all around. 155 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: I think everyone talks about like when you're making the 156 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: move from college to the pros, especially at your position, 157 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: the challenge that comes with that, whether that's the playbook, 158 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: whether that's earning the trusts and the respective guys in 159 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: the locker room. What has been the biggest thing that 160 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: you've noticed about that is it has been exactly what 161 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: you thought completely different. What do you think so far? Um, 162 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: I think it's been a little bit of both. I mean, 163 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: there were definitely some surprises as far as getting in. 164 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: You get the playbook and I remember, like rookie Minican, 165 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: we got it the day we got here, and then 166 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: the next day we had to go out and just 167 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: execute like we've been doing it. Um. So that was 168 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: like a lot. And I remember, like me and Justice 169 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: were in the hotel because use my roommate and we're 170 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: just both in our playbook until like midnight that night, 171 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: and all right, we got try and get some sleep 172 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: before we get up the next morning. So we but 173 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: like those days was like those were tough where we 174 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: had to kind of figure it out our own a 175 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: little bit um. But since then, I think it was 176 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,679 Speaker 1: it's been really helpful. Like all the veterans have been awesome, 177 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: you know, like I said, Argi there and Lamar have 178 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: been awesome at least for me helping me to to 179 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: learn the playbook and kind of understand some of the 180 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: things like how they see things and you know, what's 181 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: their mind process as they get up to the line. 182 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: I think that kind of stuff is really helped me 183 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: personally to be able to help the transition and and 184 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: be able to adjust to kind of the NFL life style. 185 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: So what was that first practice like when you had 186 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: like several hours of playbook study and you're expected to practice, 187 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: so you're just like, it actually went pretty well? Yeah, 188 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: it went it went pretty well. I think you know 189 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: a lot of guys, I think everyone pretty much on 190 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: the entire team at that point, I'd kind of done 191 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: the same similar things. So we got out there, and 192 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: we did have a few hours of me anytime in 193 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: the morning where we were with the coaches to be 194 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: able to brounse any questions off. But for the most part, 195 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: for going out there and executing the first practice, I think, um, 196 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: guys did pretty good. I think that was one thing 197 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: that was a big adjustment. I know in college, you know, 198 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: it wouldn't have gone to smoothly as it probably did 199 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: if that had been been the case. Um. So I 200 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: think a lot of guys just you can see how 201 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: guys just treat treated more as a profession as a job, 202 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: like this is this is it? So I think guys 203 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: were able to really just do a good job and 204 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: practice went pretty smoothly that day. How different is the 205 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: Ravens NFL playbook compared to your Penn State playbook? Uh, 206 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: the terminology is completely different. I think for me that 207 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: was the hardest part. We just learning the language. I mean, 208 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: the concepts are pretty similar to kind of what we did, 209 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: um a field, you know, different things here and there. 210 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: Obviously a little bit you know, reads a little bit different, 211 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: but um, you know, at the end of the day, 212 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: like I kind of went into like football's football, Uh, 213 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: and there's looks so much that can kind of change, um, 214 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: but determineology in the language was a lot different and 215 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: that was the biggest thing, is just learning how to 216 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: speak the language of the Ravens offense. Right. Well, one 217 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: thing that's definitely different that I don't think you did 218 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: any of it Penn State is you're doing some work 219 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: fielding points that is all the best. I don't have 220 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: a feeling you didn't do that too much at Penn State. 221 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: What do you think of that? Oh, it's been fun, 222 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: It's been a good transition. Is something that's a new 223 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: challenge for me, um, something that I hadn't really had 224 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: never done. So it was something that interesting to be 225 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: able to come in and learn UM and try and 226 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: prove myself in a different way that I can be 227 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: able to get on the field and make an impact. 228 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: So I think it's been a good transition. Been interesting. 229 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: It's had this ups and downs obviously, but you know 230 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: the first couple of times doing it, But um, it's 231 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: going well and I think I'm just I'm looking forward 232 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: to be able to come out and do anything that 233 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: I can, especially in that in special teams aspect for 234 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: the team. I want to prove myself there. I'm curious 235 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: how that came about, Like did Chris Horton Special Teams 236 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: coach or coach Hardball or whoever it is come to 237 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: you and say, hey, have you ever done this? We 238 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: think you have a potential to give us a shot? 239 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: Like how did that whole conversation? And then also what 240 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: was that first day? Like when you go out there, 241 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: because catching points, like I honestly think that's one of 242 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: the toughest jobs in the league. You just gotta stand 243 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: out there kind of on the island and we're not 244 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: trying to talk you out of it. How did it 245 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: come about it? And then what was that first day? 246 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: Like it kind of came about when I came here 247 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: on the pre draft visit um for the local day 248 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: and we went and did the whole workout on the 249 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: field with like quarterbacks, offense and that sort of stuff. 250 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: Then it kind of got brought up after like hey, 251 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: we'd like to see if you see if you do it, 252 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: would you be open to it? And I was, you know, yeah, 253 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: I'd be open to it. So I went out there. 254 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: I caught a couple there, and then when I got 255 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: here and started you know, workimmunity camp and all that stuff. 256 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 1: Started continuing to do that kind of stuff at the 257 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: beginning of practice. Um, so yeah, it was. It was 258 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: a little bit different with something that you know, kind 259 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: of it got brought up in the pre draft process 260 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: and something that I was open to obviously know when 261 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: I come in and end up being probably back up 262 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: and wanting to get on the field in some way. 263 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: So I think, you know, kind of from my position 264 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: and what I can do, the more I can do 265 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: will help me to be able to get on the field. 266 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: Do you like it? I mean, yeah, no, it's a 267 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: little wiggle to you. I got a little bit just 268 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: trying to figure out catching the ball is the main 269 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: thing kind of at the end of just make sure 270 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: you got the ball and then do what you can 271 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: with it after that. So yeah, offensively, a lot of 272 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: people have compared you to Taysom Hill and the role 273 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: that he had last year with the Saints. Is that 274 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: kind of your understanding of the role that the coaches 275 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 1: envisioned for you this season? Yeah, I think that's something 276 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: that you know, it's something that I can do, um 277 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: and it's something that I think the coaches are kind 278 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: of looking to explore a little bit if you know 279 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: I can do that kind of stuff. Um, So I 280 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: think that's something that I can definitely have a roll 281 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: in on, willing to kind of do whatever if they 282 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: want me to be out there blogging punts. I think 283 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: that'd be pretty cool to have seen tastom block a 284 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: couple So, um, I think it's something that we're looking 285 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: into and something that, um, I'm actually kind of excited 286 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: about being able to get some of those opportunities. Are 287 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: you watching his film from last year to kind of 288 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: pick up some stuff. I haven't really been watching film 289 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: on him, just kind of more learning our playbooking techniques 290 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: and that kind of first thing. First, it's interesting, I 291 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: remember when the Ravens drafted you and the Taysom Hill 292 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: thing came up and you talked to doing some of 293 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: this other stuff, but you also like made it pretty 294 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: clear from the very start that you're a quarterback, and 295 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: it reminded me a little bit of Lamar last year 296 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: in that sense. He has a lot of questions about 297 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: are you a quarterback? What are you? And you even 298 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: talked about how the fact last year remember him going 299 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: through that process and he made those comments like I'm 300 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: a quarterback and you kind of admire that, like, is that, um, 301 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: have you guys talked about that at all? And is that, um, 302 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: while you're doing these other things, how important is it 303 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: also the show like I am also a quarterback. Yeah, 304 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: I think you know, that's kind of very important for 305 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: me obviously when and I kind of trying to approach 306 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: you that wherever I'm mat just being there. So when 307 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm in specially these meetings are around on the field 308 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: doing special team stuff, I'm all in there and I'm 309 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: completely focus there and I'm competing with the guys on 310 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: special teams. But then when I get over the quarterback 311 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: and on the offense, UM, competing with those guys Lamar 312 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: r G three and those guys to be able to 313 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: be the best quarterback guy can be. And from my 314 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: perspective is that I am a quarterback and that's when 315 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: I that's what I think I'll be able to do 316 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: long term. But I also want to be able to 317 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: help this team out as much as I can, So 318 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 1: I think that's where, UM, it's exciting to be able 319 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: to have some opportunities to be able to get on 320 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: the field of special teams and make some plays and 321 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: and try and you know, be a difference Baker if 322 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: I can there. But kind of the same thing. I 323 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: think you as a quarterback, you have to be a 324 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: little bit stubborn and the fact that you gotta wholeheartedly 325 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: believe that that's what you can do. Um. And for me, 326 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: I think and Lamar, I think that's the same kind 327 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: of thing that we have. Like we both talking about 328 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: him last year and how he kind of approached He 329 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: wanted to be able to get on the field anyway 330 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: to to make an impact and help the team. But 331 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: I think his mindset in the back of his head 332 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: was he was going to be the starting quarterback. I 333 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: think that's something that you kind of have to have 334 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of that. Yeah, I mean I think 335 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: that looking at you out in practice, it's not like 336 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: you're doing a bunch of tricky stuff out there, like 337 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: you're playing the quarterback position, throwing the ball a lot 338 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: and and throwing it well to my my just my opinions. Um, 339 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: what if coaches said to you about the way you've 340 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: been been practicing, Yeah, I think they've just they've been 341 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: pretty complimentaries and positive for the most part. Just trying 342 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: to come in and and learn the offense and be 343 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: as uh as seasons as I can up to this point. Um, 344 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: as far as you know how I'm operating the offense, 345 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: getting guys lined up, getting guys in rest place, and 346 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: and making good decisions. I think I'm just trying to 347 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: improve every single day. Um. And it's a it's a process. 348 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: It's something that it doesn't happen overnight, and it won't 349 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: happen overnight, but over time, just trying to focus on 350 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: getting but one percent better every day. I think that's 351 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: something that I focused on And I've talked with you know, 352 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: Coach Urban a lot about just and keep improving every day, 353 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: keep you like a you know stairs, just kind of 354 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: keep getting there. Um. And I think you know, for me, 355 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: I've just tried to embrace that as much as possible. Right. 356 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: So I do want to go back and talk about 357 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: your background a little bit. I'm sure all the Penn 358 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: State listeners out there they already know all this, but 359 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: for the Ravens fans, you might not be Nitney Lions themselves. 360 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: Uh they might not. So you went to high school 361 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: in Ashburne, Virginia, which is the home of the Redskins. 362 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: That's where their headquarters are. So did you grow up 363 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: a Redskins fan. I did grow up a Redskins fan. 364 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: A lot of those guys were kind of in the area, so, uh, 365 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: you know see guys like that. My mom was a 366 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: real estate agent, so she had some players, former players clients. 367 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: So I kind of I did grow up as a 368 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: Restkins fan. Who was your favorite Redskins I kind of. 369 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: I did. Like LaVar Arrington the jump over the Illinois 370 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: at Penn State. Is that what you're talking about? Yea, yeah, 371 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: one where he jumped overall. I don't remember what game was, 372 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: but it was it was your Redskin guy growing up. 373 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: Sean Taylor was a guy that I love. That's pretty awesome. 374 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: That's a good pick. Uh. So you led your high 375 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: school team, Briar Woods to three three Virginia state championships. 376 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: That's not easy to deal. Had a fifty five and 377 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: five overall record in high school. I mean, just to 378 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: talk about, what was the recruiting process like for you? 379 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: I mean you had to have everybody kind of on 380 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: on the scent, right, Uh, not really really not so much. 381 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: How many more games you need to win to get 382 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: They're like, hey, what there's five loss talking about that. Um. Yeah, 383 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: I mean I was a well recruited player to high school. UM, 384 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: but a lot of people recruiting me to play safety, 385 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: especially at the Division one level, they were really only 386 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: a handful of schools that recruited me to play quarterback. 387 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,479 Speaker 1: And that's kind of what in the end ended up 388 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: driving me too at the time commit to Vanderbilt. When 389 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: coach Franklin was there, was just uh kind of his 390 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: belief in recruiting me as a quarterback because at that time, 391 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: that's that's what I wanted to play. Um. I had 392 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: been playing safety only for a couple of years in 393 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: high school. UM, So I think, you know, for me, 394 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: I I had always kind of had envisioned myself being 395 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: a quarterback and that's where I put in all the work. 396 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: So I think that's what I just wanted and that's 397 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: where I felt I was going to be successful at 398 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: the next level. UM. So that's what kind of drove 399 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: me to end up being, you know, committed to Vanderbilt. 400 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: And then we coach Franklin flipped over to Penn State. 401 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: I ended up coming over there with him. Side note 402 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: question just a little off topic. So if the Ravens 403 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: if wink came to you and said, yeah, let's check 404 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: you out of safety a little bit. Let's check out 405 00:17:53,119 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: the safety. What would you say to Wake So, hell yeah, 406 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: just guy's never gonna come off the field. So you 407 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: go to Penn State and then you start winning games 408 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: as a sophomore and you just have a huge season. Um, 409 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: you actually were on the highs and ballot with Lamar 410 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: that year. Like it was a crazy thinking about that, like, now, yeah, 411 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: some people had your highest two that year. Um, now 412 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: you guys are on the same team. Was that kind 413 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: of a crazy year two thousand and sixteen, Yeah, that 414 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: year was. It definitely was a crazy year. It's kind 415 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: of one of those that especially when we started the year, 416 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: no one, I don't think we were ranked in the 417 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 1: any of the top twenty five or anything like that. Um, 418 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: no one really thought we were gonna be doing too 419 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: much that year. And then you know, we kind of 420 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: started off two and two. We got blown up on Michigan. 421 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: It was a little bit of a rough start to 422 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: the season, and then we really just kind of turned 423 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 1: it around and got hot at the right time, end 424 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: up having a couple of big wins on beat Ohio State, 425 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: and uh, that kind of really just jump started our 426 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: season for the last of the year and kind of 427 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: rolled through everyone else. So uh, I ended up winning 428 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: the Big Ten Championship. UM, and it was just kind 429 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: of a great year all around. It was one of 430 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: those things that no one really expected it, which made 431 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: it that much more kind of cool to be a 432 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: part of because we always still had that underdog mentality 433 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: and everything that we did was that much sweeter because 434 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: we felt that no one everyone was doubting us, no 435 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: one thought that we could you know, I don't thought 436 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: we could beat Ohouse, stayed much less even compete for 437 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: the Big Ten Championship or a New Year's six Bowl game, 438 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: and we ended up playing in the Rose Bowl and 439 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: winning the Big Ten Championship and all that kind of stuff. 440 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: So State guy, Yeah, I remember that game. I didn't 441 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: mean to keep doing that. That was definitely throw out. No, Yeah, 442 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: how did your life change after that season? Like you 443 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: talked about you were an underdog going into that year 444 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 1: and then like all of a sudden kind of secrets out, 445 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: like how did your life change? On campus? Also nationally, 446 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: there's a lot of attention on you. Did it feel 447 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: completely different when you go into the two thousand seventeen season. Um, 448 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: not really. I think the only thing that really changed 449 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: were expectations were now higher for us at the time, 450 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: and especially after that you really didn't lose too many guys. 451 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: We still were returning a lot of our production on 452 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball and even on defense, 453 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: So expectations were just a lot higher for our team 454 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: at the time. So, um, but I think as a 455 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: team we're able to handle that really well and kind 456 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: of approach that that offseason, as you know, we kind 457 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: of got a taste of what we can be. Now 458 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: we wanted to elevate and be better. Uh So I 459 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: think that's just kind of been the process that really 460 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: we had gone through the last couple of years of 461 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: Penn State was just the expectation has been higher. I mean, 462 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: obviously some of the national attention started showing up around 463 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: and you know, start being recognized on campus a little 464 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: bit more and that kind of stuff. But you know, 465 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: for me, I always just kind of trying to focus 466 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: on what was next and just trying to approach you know, 467 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: now the expectations were there, having to meet those works 468 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I mean then your junior year, you 469 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: you put up very similar numbers. Your sophomore year, another 470 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: great year, and then I think a lot of people 471 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: for last year, the numbers kind of dipped a little bit, 472 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: the completion percentage and touchdowns all days things. Why why 473 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: did they dip in your estimation, I think it was 474 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 1: probably a mix of a couple of things. One, I 475 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: think you know, when they started to dip at the 476 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: beginning of the year. Personally, I think I kind of 477 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: just tightened up and tried to be under exact and 478 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: you know, things were going well. It just kind of 479 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: just tightened up and wasn't out there playing loose like 480 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: it was the last couple of years. So I think 481 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,479 Speaker 1: that was part of it. Um we had had, you know, 482 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: we like I said in the two thousand seventeen, we 483 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: returned a lot of reproduction this last year. A lot 484 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: of that production now was in the NFL, you know, 485 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: I mean Dayshawn Hamilton, Mike is Sicky, A lot of 486 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: those guys that were you know Todd, I mean, say 487 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: you Blacken all even it was the guy that he 488 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: was on finished the year on the Raiders. I mean 489 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: a lot of guys that we had that on that 490 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: team that year where ended up being on NFL rosters, 491 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: and we had a lot of you know, young guys 492 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 1: coming in having step up in big roles. So I think, um, 493 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: when things didn't start clicking, I think a lot of 494 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: guys um started, you know, kind of get tightened tightened up, 495 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: and uh, it wasn't going the way I think everyone 496 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: kind of expected. So it was something that we all 497 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: had to kind of adjust to and and prepare for 498 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: and end up you know, trying to fix. And you know, 499 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: we had our games where we gotta fix and we 500 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: had our games where we did um. So I think 501 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: it was one of the things that for me personally, 502 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: I was able to learn a lot from was you know, 503 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: when I'm out there playing loose and just flying around 504 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: and seeing things and reacting, things are going really well. 505 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: When I try and tighten up and and be hunter 506 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: sent exact and those kind of things are is when 507 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: things started. So it was one of the things that personally, 508 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: I think, although it wasn't the greatest thing to go through, 509 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: I didn't love it, I think I was able to 510 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: get better from it. I probably made you a better 511 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: NFL players. So you had a ton of records at 512 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: Penn State. Then then take us to draft weekend. First 513 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: of all, I'm shocked that you lasted till the sixth round. 514 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: Were you surprised? I mean, it seems like a really 515 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: emotional time, But were we surprised that you lasted to 516 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: the sixth round? Honestly, didn't know what was gonna happen, Okay, 517 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously I was hopeful that I'd be drafted 518 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: as high as I as high as possible, Um, but 519 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: I really didn't know what was going to happen. I 520 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: think I tried to not look at any of the 521 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: kind of boards and that sort of stuff because but 522 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: it's hard. It's not hard. I gotta believe like you 523 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: have your friends texting you pay that was the things 524 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: we're friends would be text me and and people would 525 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: see something and send it to me and all that 526 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. It was one of those things that 527 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: you just really didn't know. Obviously. Like I said, I 528 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: was hopeful that I'd be drafted as high as possible, 529 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: and um, you know the competitor and you wants to 530 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: be higher, be drafted higher. But I ended up being 531 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 1: in a great situation in great spots. So I think 532 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it all worked out. 533 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: Well and it's it'll be good and in the long run. 534 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: How emotional was that? Like we've seen the video it 535 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: clearly it just seemed like the motion started pouring out 536 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: of Yeah, you take us back to that as much 537 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: as you can. Yeah, I mean it was a long day. 538 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: I think that day it started at noon and it's 539 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 1: a long day for us, so I can't imagine what 540 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: it's like for you. So I was just sitting there 541 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: on the couch watching for I don't even know, it 542 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: felt like forever. I don't even know how long it 543 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: actually was in real time, but it just felt like 544 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: it just took forever. Um. So it was just a 545 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: long day and a lot of anticipation, and then you 546 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: can kind of start to see, you know, some of 547 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: the other quarterbacks are getting taken off the board, and 548 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,719 Speaker 1: then you start wondering what's going on, like you know, 549 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: what's being talked about and that sort of stuff. So, um, 550 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: it was just a ton of like anticipation, a lot 551 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: of emotion, and um, you know, you start to get 552 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: you know a little bit nervous, and you're wondering what's 553 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: gonna happen. You're trying to you keep looking at your 554 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: phone and see what's going on. You're talking to bunch 555 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: of people, and you know, you end up just getting 556 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: that call and then everything's just like a weight off 557 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: your shoulders, and um, it's something that you've been dreaming 558 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: about and working since, you know, the time you're a kid. 559 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: H something that you always jumped about was playing in 560 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: the NFL, especially you know, being able to hear your 561 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,239 Speaker 1: name called at the draft. So I think it's one 562 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: of those things that just a ton of emotion came 563 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: out from not just myself, but you know, my parents, 564 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: and they've been with me on this journey the entire time. 565 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: My entire family and grandparents and and uncles were there. Um, 566 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people, my girlfriend was there. So it 567 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: was just a ton of people that knew kind of 568 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: what the journey in the process was from the time 569 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: that I was, you know, started playing football at nine 570 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: years old until now. So I think it was just 571 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 1: really cool kind of have everyone there and be able 572 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: to experience it. What's what's the deal with your dad? 573 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: I wasn't sure who the Ravens drafted Jack. Yeah, yeah, 574 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: my dad. I messed him all the time. I say 575 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: he's psycho. I think at this point. I don't know 576 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: exactly what's been, but there was a time he goes 577 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: he works out of the gym every day, like literally 578 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: every day, and I think Mom had started to keep 579 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: track of it. And when they celebrated their twenty fifth 580 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: wedding anniversary, I think there was eleven days where he 581 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: hadn't worked out. My god, since they've been since they've 582 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: been married, he's yeah, he's that's just like his thing. 583 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: That's how he gets his day going. And he'll you 584 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: can definitely tell when he hasn't got his workout in, 585 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 1: and at this point, my mom would like just go 586 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: like work out and because it's like helps him to 587 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: blow off steam and get away, and you'll start to 588 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: get like irritated and kind of a stem almost like 589 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 1: just go like downstairs and run or something like that. 590 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: So I think it's one of those things that now 591 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: it's just it's his routine. And he'll be up at 592 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: you know, he sometimes like early morning flights, so he'll 593 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: get up at like two am and go, oh God, 594 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: does he try to wake you up for this early 595 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: morning workouts? Or what I would when I was younger 596 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: and kind of starting to get into it, I would 597 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: you know, get up with him in the morning, but 598 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: then uh, not so much anymore. I kind of got 599 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: I got my own Well, I I got my own schedule, 600 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: and I think he understands that. Um, as long as 601 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: he knows that I am working out, UM, he's been able. 602 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: It's cool. Uh the days we're all taking off day 603 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: if I'm at home, I could definitely he'll start to 604 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: get like antsy and started I'm like that my off. 605 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: They relaxed like I got eleven days and twenty years. 606 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,239 Speaker 1: That sounds like you huh, yeah, you can't sell. So 607 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: did you have a feeling that the Ravens could be 608 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: the team that that ultimately picked you because of the system, 609 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: because of Lamar and how it's a natural fit. If 610 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: if Lamar were to go down, you know that you 611 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: would be a good fit. Yeah. I think it was 612 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: one of the teams that when we were looking through 613 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: the teams that you know I might end up at. 614 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: You know, the Ravens were definitely one that was always 615 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: at the top. Um this you know, this system fit 616 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,239 Speaker 1: was right. But I think it was you know, kind 617 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: of the opportunities where I could come in and make 618 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: a difference on you know, some special teams and UM 619 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: kind of with where really where the depth of the 620 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: quarterback was At the time, it was Lamar and r 621 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: g Um the only two guys in there. UM, So 622 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: I think it was something where I felt like if 623 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: it ended up getting down a free agency situation, and 624 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: that's kind of how we were looking at weard. As 625 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: far as looking at fits Um, this would have been 626 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: a spot that I would have seriously looked at. Given 627 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: the system. Fit Um depth was probably about right where 628 00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: I could come in be able to get some reps 629 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: of quarter back, but also try and prove myself if 630 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: I'm coming in as a third quarterback that I can 631 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: do some things in other areas as well. Right, So 632 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: this sounds this is like the classic post college job 633 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: interview question what is it like this year look like 634 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: for you? And then what does it look like for 635 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: you five and ten years down the line, like what 636 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: is your NFL and your mind like, what does that 637 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: look like this season? And then five and ten years 638 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: from now? Yeah, I mean this season, I want to 639 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: do anything I can to get on the field and 640 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: shut the team. Um, whether if it's at the quarter requisition, 641 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: if you know I'm needed there, then that's what I 642 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: want to be doing. Um. But if it's something where 643 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be a special teams guy or a 644 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: backup guy, then I just want to be able to 645 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: come in and do whatever I can to get on 646 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: the field and help this team. You know, recent the 647 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: goals that they want to be at um talking about 648 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: five to ten years. It's a little bit hard to 649 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: kind of exactly plan out, but you know, eventually I'll 650 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: you know, the competitor to me wants to be working 651 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: my way up to be in the starting quarterback in 652 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: this league, um and wherever that kind of maybe, um, 653 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: but eventually I think that's kind of the the goal 654 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: is working to being a starting quarterback in this league 655 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: and compete to win Super Bowls. Yeah. Well, and then 656 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: and then five years down the line, he's taking our jobs. 657 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: Because I understand that you took some class and journalism 658 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: took a couple. This last semester, after I got my 659 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: degree in business, I went back and decided because I 660 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: was between the two between business and journalism when I 661 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: first got this college got my degree in accounting, so 662 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: on the business side, and then after that I started 663 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 1: looking at, you know, did I want to do eighteen 664 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: credits of master's accounting classes, or go back and do 665 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: a couple of the journalism classes that I was a 666 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: little bit interested in and probably a little bit more 667 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: interested in quite honestly when I got there. So I 668 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: decided to go that route, and I enjoyed it. Has 669 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: some fun, got to write a couple of articles and 670 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: do some stuff like this. It was cool. The masters 671 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: are Journalism classes are definitely easier than Masters accounting classes, 672 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: especially going into my last year football and I was 673 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: one more semester. I was, you know, I was juggling 674 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: a little bit, but I was like, you know what, 675 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: I think I'd much rather enjoy doing the journalism side. 676 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: Take it from two journalism majors here. Neither of us 677 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: are brain surgeons. So you made well. And if if 678 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: you keep, you know, busting on Garrett about the highest 679 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: state and beating the highest state you bringin, then then 680 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: you can join the podcast anytime. Well thank you, all right, 681 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: Well good stuff from Trace. But I did remember that 682 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: I forgot to ask my most important question, or actually 683 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: it was make a request. My request was that at 684 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: some point this year, if a trainer asked him are 685 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: you sore? He should say Yeah, I'm really mixed sorely. Yeah, 686 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: that's terrible. I didn't say that. I didn't try that 687 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: because that's just terrible. That would I wouldn't even have 688 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: given you a pity laugh to him. You just would 689 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: have had to throw that out there. That. Yeah, it 690 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: would have been a gamble if you just like, if 691 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: it was just total crickets with him, that could have 692 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: been a little awkward. It would have been crickets. Frankie's 693 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: giving me a little smile over here. Yeah, that's a 694 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: pretty smile. Pretty smile. Anyway, I'm excited about Trace. I think, 695 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: like I said an interview, and I wasn't just saying 696 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: this to butter him up. I thought he threw the 697 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: ball pretty well. I thought he looked good out there 698 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: for a rookie quarterback to step in. He's about the 699 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: third team offense. He's going against the third team defense 700 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: generally speaking. But I thought he made a lot of 701 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: good throws and looked pretty comfortable. Yeah. The other thing 702 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: I would say too with him, and this is what 703 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: I told him actually right as we is he finished up, 704 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: is I like his attitude, Like I like the fact 705 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: that he's he recognized this the situation. He knows that 706 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's the starting quarterback, so he's not coming here 707 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: and trying to beat Lamar Jackson out for the job. 708 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: But at the same time, he is very clear that 709 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: eventually he wants to be a starting quarterback in the 710 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: NFL and he's gonna work to try to get to 711 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: that point. And so he's trying to do everything he 712 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: can to get on the field and make the team, 713 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: which is priority number one. But ultimately he wants to 714 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: move into a role where he's a starter at some 715 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: point in his career. And I like that he's open 716 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: about that, Like that's I think that's the right attitude 717 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: to have. And I mean, when you look at the 718 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: guy's stats, ridiculous stats. We're not talking about you know, 719 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: alcorn State here, Okay, We're talking Penn State Big Ten football. 720 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: He lit it up. He ended his career with the 721 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: most passing yards in a single season in in Penn 722 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: State history, most passing touchdowns in a single season, most 723 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: total yards of offense all time, and total touchdowns in 724 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: the season at Penn. Stay. Yeah, he lit it up. 725 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: He literally think that that guy gets drafted in the 726 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: first round, not the sixth it's true. It's I think 727 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: it's a little bit of system. It's he falls victim 728 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: to the size thing, a little bit um in terms 729 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: of the prototypical size that NFL teams want. But look, 730 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: he's in the NFL and so now he's got a 731 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: chance to go him do it. Um, and I'm excited 732 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: to see what he does. He's gonna get a lot 733 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: of reps in the preseason for sure. Um, it'll be 734 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: an opportunity to go prove himself. Definitely agree. Well that's 735 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: it for us. This week, we are trying to nail 736 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: down a pretty elite guests. What you don't want me 737 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: to You don't want me to tease it? No, it's 738 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: fine to tease it, but oh elite, Yeah, let's talk 739 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: about that's like automatically where someone's mind. Now I've moved 740 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: on from the elite to beek, you're obviously still there 741 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: at everyone was thinking it No, Frankie, no no. Uh 742 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: So anyway, a really good guest. Next week we're trying 743 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: to nail down uh and uh. Then we're going on 744 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: summer break for a week. But we'll still have a 745 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: pod for you, so make sure you keep it locked 746 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: right here and as always, hit us up with your 747 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: emails at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net 748 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: exactly next week