1 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: The Official Jets Podcast is presented by win Bet. Benning 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: is a team sport, but together at win Bett. How 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: about the team today on the podcast Spart Scott as 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: always and we bring Brian Baldinger Baldy in studio. Gentlemen, 5 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: great morning to you both. The Jets are one to zero. 6 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: It's been an emotional forty eight hour swing here at 7 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: one Jets drive. Great win over the Buffalo Bills. Outstanding 8 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: team victory. With that being said, Aaron Rodgers goes down 9 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: after four snaps three offensive plays. He's placed on into 10 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: reserve with the Achilles on Tuesday. 11 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: Baldy, look, I mean for all of us when we 12 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: watched it, it was with disbelief, like nobody could believe 13 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: this could have happened. Everybody's reaction was pretty much the same. 14 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: What come out of your mouth was a little bit different, 15 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: but we all felt like a gut punch. So it's tough, 16 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 2: but I think within that sometimes you find out just 17 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: how good you are, Like, is it just Aaron Rodgers? 18 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,559 Speaker 2: I mean that if you watch Hard Knocks, you figured 19 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: it was just Aaron Rodgers and a bunch of guys. 20 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: You know, I know that's TV, But like sometimes you 21 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 2: got to find out how good your team is, and 22 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 2: that that team rally down thirteen to three late in 23 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: the game and they found a way and Bart like 24 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: it's so cliche, but players got to make plays. Yeah, 25 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 2: and they just guys just kept doing it, whether it 26 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: was Breeze or whether it was Whitehead, or whether it 27 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: was Xavier Gibson in overtime. Guys found a way to 28 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: make plays. And sometimes you don't know that you could 29 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 2: do it until you're asked to do it, and you 30 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: have to. 31 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: Do it exactly. I mean, we say it all the time. 32 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: Adversity doesn't defined. Character reveals it, and this shows you 33 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 3: that this was a confident bunch with or without you know, 34 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers. Just this is basically the same team last 35 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: year that was, you know, fighting for a playoff. 36 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 4: Spot started even four at that point. 37 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 3: Right with with with more experience. All these young guys 38 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 3: now are seasoned veterans, you know what I'm saying. And 39 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 3: you think about Sauce taking the next step, Garrett Wilson's 40 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 3: taking the next step, but they have a greater supporting cast, 41 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 3: you know, I think the offensive line, the more they 42 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 3: play with each other, it's going to take about five 43 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 3: games and listen, they're going to be have their feet 44 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 3: held to the fire because their first five opponents are 45 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 3: guys that have tremendous defenses that can get after. So 46 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 3: it's going to accelerate the communication because you're going to 47 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: have to because you're going to have to have a 48 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: lot of correctable tape because it won't be perfect. Guys 49 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: got to get in in football shape. I think that 50 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 3: was one of my takeaways throughout the league, because there's 51 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: no preseason. Guys are playing at one hundred percent, one 52 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty percent, pushing through fatigue and pain because 53 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 3: you can't tap in. 54 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 4: You know, say hey, come save me, and you're like, hold, 55 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 4: I'm a backup. 56 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 3: You the starter, You get started money, you go out 57 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 3: there and you do what you gotta do. But you know, 58 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 3: Theets can take a lot from what they did, and 59 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 3: I think the former has to be much like it 60 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 3: was our two thousand and nine and twenty ten year, 61 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 3: where you know, Zach Wilson's taking shot or pretty much 62 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 3: like Mark Sanchez took shots and handing the ball off 63 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: and leading the league in rushing. They have two capable backs. 64 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 3: Bree is only going to get stronger. I thought Dalvin cooked. 65 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: Maybe his timing was off a little bit, you know, 66 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 3: because he has to learn. One thing Brees knows is 67 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 3: he's played with these guys before, so he knows their tendencies, 68 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 3: their body language and none verbal communication. 69 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 4: Dalvin has to learn that, like how he's going to block. 70 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 3: Certain fronts if you're going to get a true but 71 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: if you're going to get a turn, you're gonna get 72 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 3: a hook and get that trust in timing. As far 73 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 3: as I say, all great backs have to have patients 74 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 3: to the whole, acceleration through the whole, and Dalvin has 75 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: to be able to learn that patience then comes with 76 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: more reps. 77 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: It's a dance part. It's a dance that every back 78 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: has to have with their offensive line. There's some days 79 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: you come off the field and you're like, I can't 80 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: get the mic block, Like look like it's not the 81 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: way it was on Wednesday or Thursday, and you can't, 82 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:51,839 Speaker 2: Like you gotta figure it out a way. We gotta 83 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: get the mic block. He's gonna make every tackle. And 84 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: so sometimes it's just that simple, Okay, come to the sideline. 85 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: Here's what we're gonna fold it. We're gonna scoop it. 86 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: We're you know, what do we have to do in 87 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: order to get to this guy? And so Dalvin has 88 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: to learn that, you know, if he's going outside zone 89 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: behind Dwayne Brown and Lake and Tomlinson. It's different than 90 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: what he did in Minnesota for six years. And so 91 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: to Bart's point, he spot on like, there's a little 92 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 2: bit of time where you need to learn the dance 93 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 2: and then once you get it, then you'll get your rhythm. 94 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: Then you know your spots when to hit it, where 95 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 2: the daylight is. And I think you know that will. 96 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: Come subscribe, rate and review also banged the like on YouTube. 97 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,799 Speaker 1: Bart ten year anniversary nine to eleven. You played against 98 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. You guys were down by double digits 99 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: in the second half as well. Then Sanchez hit Plexico 100 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: bursts the late Joe McKnight, god rest his soul blocks 101 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: a punt, Isaiah Truefont takes it into the end zone. 102 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: So a lot of similarities. Twenty second anniversary of nine 103 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: to eleven at Charge Environment, the fans were incredible Monday night, 104 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: and the Jets got a great defensive effort and then 105 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: they hung around, kept on battling offensively. How about the 106 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: touchdown catch from Garrett Wilson in the fourth quarter. That 107 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: tisy game. I don't know how he came down there 108 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: with that against stray Avis White, and then they ended 109 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: in overtime with an undrafted free agent Exavier Gibson taking 110 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: it to the house. 111 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's just illustration of just the 112 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: work that Joe Douglas has done in understanding what this 113 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 3: team needs. Last year, that was a source spot with 114 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 3: Bracks and Barrios. You know what wasn't flipping the field. 115 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 3: You have a great defense, your special teams becomes a 116 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 3: weapon because they become your offense. If your defense can 117 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 3: get guys off the field three and out, it's a 118 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 3: formula kick the ball. 119 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 4: The ball was short. 120 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 3: You know, even if you get ten yards you average 121 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 3: ten yards, you're flipping the field because if you in 122 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 3: return punt and you outpunt the punter. I thought the 123 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 3: special teams was excellent, you know, you know Z and 124 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 3: more more so did their thing right and flip the field. 125 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 3: And that's something that was a point of emphasis for 126 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 3: the And you can see the hit we call it 127 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 3: the hitting yards. 128 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 4: We can see the hitting yards. 129 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 3: And then the hitting yards took place when you get 130 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 3: off three and three in out and you have a 131 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 3: walk off. But even if it wasn't a walk off, 132 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 3: the field was already set to be able to just 133 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 3: have to get twenty thirty yards and you have field 134 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 3: goal ranks to try and win the football game. 135 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: I always say part that during the course of a year, 136 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 2: you want your special teams to win two games for you, Well, 137 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 2: just one one. There's still another game out there to win. 138 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: What you don't want to do is have your special 139 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: teams lose a game for you, or lose two games. 140 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 2: And that can happen too. Just happened to the Giants. 141 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 2: You get a field goal attempt block for a touchdown. 142 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 4: There's this moment out of yourself. 143 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: Everybody on the sideline, this is what happens to you. You 144 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 2: got the mental stuff in your head. Go here, we 145 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: go here, it goes again like it. It is such 146 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 2: a defeating play. You got points on the board three 147 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 2: and it goes the other way for ten and then 148 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: you get a tipball interception pick six. I mean, honestly, 149 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 2: the Cowboys had eight snaps and we're up sixteen nothing. 150 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: But like you, that's a deep hole to try to 151 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: dig yourself out. 152 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 3: And when you think about it, you know you're gonna 153 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 3: have an advantage AD and you can have a big advantage, 154 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: especially if you have great core teamers. It's in the 155 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 3: special teams because the communication. A lot of these guys 156 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 3: on special teams are are guys that's working with each 157 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 3: other for the first time. So if you have a 158 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: good special team unit, a veteran one one that's played 159 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 3: with each other and guys to understand their role and 160 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: accept their role, you can really take advantage early in 161 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: the season because communications X dunt cross stunts, guys techniques bad. Right, 162 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 3: we had to jump through when you talk about the giants, 163 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 3: jump through God and stabs inside hand. Now I guarantee 164 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 3: for every game in the rest of the year, somebody 165 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 3: who's ever there on that wing is gonna stab that 166 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: inside hand and then step out. But now the Dallas 167 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 3: Cowboys able to gain advantage because they took advantage of 168 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 3: guys not being ready to play. 169 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: I see pall to getting excited over here. It says, 170 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: then there's football one on one, there's football three oh one, 171 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: five o one. This is like seven oh one. This 172 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: is doctor level stuff right now. 173 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: But you know the victories and wins all line the 174 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: details like Bart's talking about, just a simple detail that 175 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,119 Speaker 2: you actually practice every day. You know, every single team 176 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: every day does a field goal, extra point, try drill 177 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: every It happens every day, and it's just something that 178 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: you just almost take for granted doesn't happen. That's disappointing. 179 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: That play to Brian Dable, as bad as it was, 180 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: might have been the one that bothered him the most. 181 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: All right, let's come back to the Jets here. We're 182 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: gonna dive into that matchup this weekend with the Dallas Cowboys. 183 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, he comes here a couple days before the draft. 184 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: He totally bought in. He loved his new surroundings, his 185 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: new environment, his new start after eighteen years in Green Bay, 186 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: fifteen as a starter, four time NFL MVP, A guy 187 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: looking at the Lombardi Trophy and telling Jets fans, dad 188 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: trophy looks lonely. I want to lead this team to 189 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: another one four plays. What do you think he's going 190 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: through right now? And also what kind of challenge does 191 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: Robert Sala have ahead of them? 192 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: Well, I would just imagine that inside Aaron Rodgers' brain 193 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 2: right now, it's a torture chamber because all, like I mean, 194 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: I'm sure that he thought, like Tom Brady thought when 195 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: he left New England went to Tampa, I can do this, 196 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 2: Matt Stafford leaves Detroit, I can go to LA and 197 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: do this, like Aaron wanted to be the next. 198 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 4: Guy to do it. 199 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 2: Like you know, that's what the great players do at 200 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: that position. They elevate everybody. And nobody thought Tampa was 201 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: a super Bowl team. Nobody thought the Rams were a 202 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: super Bowl team until those guys elevated everybody around him 203 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: and the coach quarterback relationships always got to be special. 204 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: And I thought Aaron had a chance to do that, 205 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: and that dream died quickly. So it's a gut punch 206 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: to Aaron, like he doesn't want a Hall of Fame 207 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: career to end like that. It does, like nobody can 208 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: nobody can write that script part about how to walk 209 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 2: into the sunset. We all want to do it. We 210 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: all want to go win the Super Bowl and walk 211 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 2: off into retirement and all our dreams are fulfilled. 212 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 3: Soul can never be settled that way, like it's an 213 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: unselling death, Like the soul can't rest right, you know 214 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 3: when I talk about that every football player experience is 215 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 3: to death, their natural death and their football death. They 216 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 3: can't do what they love to do, and they have 217 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 3: to walk away and make that decision. 218 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 4: You know. 219 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 3: For myself, it was a toe and it was tough, 220 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 3: and I had a tremendous opportunity being able to get 221 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 3: an opportunity for CBS, and I still feel like I 222 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 3: had some years and I feel like I had something 223 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 3: to prove. And to this day, my soul is unsettled 224 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 3: because I wish that I would have said, you know what, CBS, 225 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 3: thank you, but no thank you, and found my way 226 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 3: on there so I can walk off the field with 227 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: my head high and healthy. And sometimes you don't have 228 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 3: the Jerome Bennis type of story right off until the sunset, 229 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 3: like Shane, you know. But I just can't see a 230 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 3: guy like Aaron Rodgers wanting that to be his lasting 231 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 3: image and still feeling like he owes the Jets and 232 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 3: the Jets fans something. But he's already you see his 233 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 3: impact throughout this entire organization. You can see the life 234 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 3: that he's brought breathed into Zach Wilson. You can see 235 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: how he's you know, sharpened up the skills and the 236 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 3: confidence of Makai Beckton. You can see his effect on 237 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 3: Garrett Wilson, who he believes, Hey, you're like seventeen, and 238 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 3: being able to breathe that confidence and to him to say, hey, 239 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 3: I've seen some of the best receivers in this game, 240 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 3: and I believe you can be one. 241 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 4: Bart. 242 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 2: I really think that there is a like he's already 243 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: embedded himself in this organization. Like you said, like he's 244 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 2: got to have the surgery. I hope he still stays here. 245 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 2: He's here every day. I hope he's on the sideline. 246 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: I hope he's on the plane rides like he's a 247 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 2: part of this team. And just seeing him, I feel 248 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 2: like it gives a lot of people confidence. No, not 249 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 2: gonna take a snap, not gonna help win a game. 250 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: I feel like his presence is really important. 251 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna have to see what happens there. Wouldn't 252 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: that hurt you at the same time, like you want 253 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: to help the team. 254 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it happens. 255 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 3: We've all felt hopeless, right, you don't feel a part 256 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 3: of it, right, right, But he can be a huge 257 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 3: part of it. 258 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 4: Right. 259 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 3: He had two jobs come here, win a Super Bowl, 260 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 3: but also develop help develop a young quarterback. The first mission, 261 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 3: he can't. He can't do that until next year. If 262 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 3: he decides to come back the part two of that mission, 263 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 3: he can still obtain. He still can be a big 264 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 3: part of the winning here by helping develop and accelerate 265 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 3: the growth of Zach Wilson. 266 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson's second act now a lot sooner than we 267 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: all anticipated. With that being said, one of the advantages 268 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: of Rogers coming here that Brady didn't have, that Stafford 269 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: didn't have, that Peyton Manny didn't have, is that this 270 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: was his system. He was matching himself up with Nathaniel 271 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: Hackett as a player coach. Now, what do you anticipate 272 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: that relationship is going to look like with Hackett and 273 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: Wilson and they'll fire. They'll have a week to prepare 274 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. I imagine he wasn't getting too many 275 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: first team reps, if at all, last week. 276 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 2: Getting the reps knowing that the spotlight on them, that 277 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 2: will all help. You know, you want to see what 278 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 2: you don't What I think we saw a little bit 279 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: on Monday night was he made the error, he didn't 280 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 2: see the linebacker. He made the throws interceptor. But you know, 281 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 2: Matt Malone was a very good player. But so I 282 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 2: saw it throughout the league. Bryce Young through two to 283 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 2: the other team the other day. It happens. But what 284 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: had happened in the past is that one mistake with 285 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: snowball into two and three mistakes, and we didn't see 286 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 2: that the other night. And so the ability to erase 287 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: a mistake, flush it, clean it and go on. I 288 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 2: felt like the team helped them. I think they all 289 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: came over and let them know everything's going to be 290 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 2: all right, even when they were losing. And and then 291 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 2: you know, the touchdown to Garrett's got to feel good. 292 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 2: It's a phenomenal play. But you need your players around 293 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: you to make highlight circus catches like that. You need 294 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 2: your guys to make catches that they haven't made before 295 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: across the board. So everybody has to pick up their 296 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 2: game a little bit. And I feel like that's the 297 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 2: message that Robert We'll send to the team. We all 298 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 2: have to do a little bit more now. We all 299 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 2: got to be a little bit better. It's not all 300 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: on number two. It can't be. 301 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, you heard Dalvin Cook say say say as much 302 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 3: right when he said we all got to help too. 303 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 3: And you know, everybody list and these are guys that 304 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 3: are veterans in this league that have played at a 305 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 3: high level. We need you to play at a high 306 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 3: level all. We don't need you to be special or 307 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 3: something that you haven't been. Just play the play to 308 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 3: the back of your your football card. Play to the 309 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 3: back of your football card. And I know if Dalvin 310 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 3: Cook plays to the back of the football card, is 311 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 3: one of the most elite backs in the game. I 312 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 3: know if Makai Beckon plays into his capability, then that's 313 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 3: one of the best, most dominant, you know, tackles in 314 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 3: the game. 315 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 4: I know, if. 316 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 3: Vera Tucker plays, that's arguably one of the best guards 317 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 3: in all of football. Lanklyn Thompson, former Pro bowler, play 318 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 3: to the back of your your your your your football card. 319 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 3: Dwayne Brown, play to the back of your football card. Right, 320 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 3: You're a five time Pro bowler. Play to the back 321 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 3: of your football card. And if everybody plays to the 322 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 3: back of their football card, then I think they'll be fine. 323 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 3: One of the things I think they're going to have 324 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 3: to do, he's going to have to customize this system 325 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 3: for the strengths. 326 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: As I just gonna ask you, like, what are Zach's 327 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: strengths because he came out this highly athletic talent out 328 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: of BYU. Obviously this is a new system. 329 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 4: You gotta you gotta scheme up shots for him. You 330 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 4: know what I mean. You keep it simple. 331 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 3: You know, easy throws we're on his guys, and catches, 332 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 3: slant slants rarely get picked off, right phase rarely get 333 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 3: picked off. And shots you know you talk about you 334 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 3: know over route speedos, you know what we call spiedos, these. 335 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 4: Deep crossing routes with easy check down. 336 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 3: You need to make a simple for him one, two, three, 337 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 3: all into the one vision until he opens things up. 338 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 4: But you know, you think about as well. 339 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 3: I think McCole harmon has to start playing right because 340 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: he's a guy that can be your gadget guy. He's 341 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 3: a guy in the slot that you can give jet 342 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 3: sweeps to and he can get a supposed to plays. 343 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 3: He's a guy you can get a screen pass to, 344 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 3: you get a supposed to play. He's a guy that 345 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 3: you I will put him in there at least once 346 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 3: or twice a quarter until him just go go straight, 347 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 3: Mark's cassette, go go straight. 348 00:15:58,320 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: You gottaccount for him. 349 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: Well, I mean I just b John Robinson, catch us 350 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 2: a hitch and go to the house for opening touchdown. 351 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 2: The Falcons like, just come back, okay, get a like, 352 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: just get a bunch of big guys out front and 353 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 2: let him use his talent. 354 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 4: Like I mean, you saw Aaron Jones. 355 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 3: You saw Aaron Jones, right, It was a screen right, 356 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 3: a nice little angle route. Listen, last year the Jets 357 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 3: had a tremendous package and they didn't have to Pro Bowl. 358 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 3: It was the pony package that they had when they 359 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 3: had Michael Carter and they had Breese Hall there, and 360 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 3: that front guy can go block for each other. But 361 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 3: that front guy also can run a wheel rod. And 362 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 3: we watch against that. I believe it was Denver. We 363 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: watched Breese Hall with like a sixth den there sixty 364 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 3: yard reception off of straight like wheel route, you know, 365 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 3: coming off the Pony package. 366 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: So we saw we saw package the other night with 367 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 2: both Breecee and Dalvin together and then they through the 368 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: screen to Dalvin to Brees and they put Dalvin out 369 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: in motion. So I think you can see put your 370 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: best players on the field, like you your star players 371 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 2: are gonna win the game for you like, Zach doesn't 372 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: have to be the star. You're not gonna hide him. 373 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,479 Speaker 2: To Bart's point, like you're gonna take your shots. But 374 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 2: there's a lot of help around him. 375 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 5: Right now, Jets fans, we're in our final push and 376 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 5: the clock is ticking. Win Bet is giving you a 377 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 5: golden opportunity to win VIP prizes for the twenty twenty 378 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 5: three season. 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The best part, you get an entry 386 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 5: for every one hundred dollars you wager. 387 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: If you can be even in the turnover battle each week. 388 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: I think twenty points is gonna win you a lot 389 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: of football games with this defense. 390 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 2: No, here's the thing, Like the defense was good last 391 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 2: year that gave up I think the fewest touchdowns in 392 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 2: the league. 393 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 4: But they didn't take the ball away exactly at sixteen 394 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 4: last year. 395 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: So in seventeen games the quarter of the way there, Well, 396 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: you need to double that this year. You got to 397 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 2: be thirty and above because if you give extra at 398 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 2: bats to this offense, they're going to score if you 399 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: just keep doing it. So what was encouraging even on 400 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 2: the fumble caused by Michael Clemens, Like there was you know, 401 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 2: there was Quinnon falling on it. Like last year, they 402 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 2: forced a lot of fumble they missed. They pick up 403 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 2: like loose balls is loose change? Like get the loose balls? 404 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 2: Like it's just got to be a mentality every single 405 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 2: time there's a ball in the ground, it's got to 406 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 2: be yours. 407 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: I think Field the Eights from ESPN tweeted after Jordan 408 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: White had his third interception that he had just earned 409 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: himself a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars roster bonus 410 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: in Week one. 411 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 3: There's a lot of cheese on the taco I wonder 412 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 3: if he's saying, you know what, listen, Jets, we don't 413 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 3: need to wait till the end of season. 414 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 4: I got it now, you can just go ahead and 415 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 4: pay me. So I started getting some interest in that 416 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 4: thing already. 417 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,719 Speaker 3: You talk about hitting for the cycle and listen, they 418 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 3: weren't like those are play recognition, tape studying type of interceptions. 419 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 4: Those weren't. Oh, I'm just happened to be Bart. It's 420 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 4: a great catch. Yeah, I'm not just trying to knock 421 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 4: it out of his hands. That's a great catch. 422 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like I'm Johnny on the spot. And 423 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 3: the last one understanding that they had they had some 424 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 3: type of combo limbo type of coverage. I understand he 425 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 3: sliced the seven route, came underneath and was able to 426 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 3: get the interception. That that is play study and anticipation 427 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 3: and being able to believe your eyes. 428 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: He looked like a good cornerback in that situation when 429 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: he undercut the route. 430 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 4: And he's dry. He listened. 431 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 3: He dropped four last week. I mean last year they 432 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 3: said he dropped four. Sometimes you just you. 433 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 2: For Bart and you spend the off season on the 434 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 2: drug machine. Yeah, like, I gotta get my hands better. 435 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: How about the Williams brothers. We tend to expect this, 436 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: I think from quinnin but Quincy is really. 437 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 4: And he flashes. 438 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 3: He plays at a different speed, right, he's a guy 439 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 3: that you know, he brings and delivers, delivers, you know, 440 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 3: tremendous hits. You know, he's not the biggest guy, reminds 441 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 3: me of it. He reminds me a lot of myself. 442 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 3: And I'm not trying to pump. I'm not trying to 443 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 3: lift myself up. But I was a hitter and I 444 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 3: had a tremendous range, especially early in my career. And 445 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 3: he's a guy that plays with a reckless abandon because 446 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 3: he's a guy that was giving up on He's a 447 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: guy that said, hey, he wasn't good enough, and he's 448 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 3: come here and he found he's found a home and 449 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 3: not only just being able to come down and be 450 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 3: that wild man. He's like the loose cannon, right. They 451 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 3: allow him just to run and hit. There's like Seaball 452 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 3: get balled. Mi'ster ray Lewis right, he's the guy like 453 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 3: and Quintin is allowed to just be a reckless craze doll. 454 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 3: And I love it and I love him to see him. 455 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 3: And also he's athletic and he's had that. He has 456 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 3: that speed. He saw that on the wheel route. He 457 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 3: was right there, stride for stride and yes, and we know, 458 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 3: James Cook is a guy that can run too, So 459 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 3: you know, I'm happy for him, and that's what you need. 460 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 3: You need your young guys also to take the next step. 461 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 3: And these guys are taking the next step. Whether you 462 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 3: talk about Garrett rather you talk about Sauce, you know, 463 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 3: you talk about Whitehead more comfortable in the system. 464 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 4: I think he's more comfortable. Last year. 465 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 3: I think coming over from a new team, you know, 466 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 3: high price, free agent, a lot of expectations. Maybe he 467 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 3: was pressing a little bit. Now he's just letting the 468 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 3: game come to him. We're seeing the player that we 469 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 3: saw on Tampa. 470 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that matchup Jet's Cowboys. But just 471 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: flipping back to the quarterback real quick. If you're Joe Douglas, 472 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: you already know you we're taping here Wednesday morning, elevated boil. 473 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: So right now he's your backup? Are you adding another quarterback? 474 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 4: Hits? Okay, you know why? 475 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: And could you throw out some names hypothetically, you know, 476 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: but like. 477 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 2: Look, you owe the team. I mean, Joe's been doing 478 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 2: this for the last two years straight. The team is good. 479 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 2: They proved it on Monday night. We know it's good. 480 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 2: You owe the team, the best player you can get, 481 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 2: you can find. You make every phone you call Tom Brady, 482 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 2: you know, you call Philip Rivers. You just make those calls. 483 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: You call, like he drafted Carson Winston Philly, Like you know, 484 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 2: Carson has been giving up on Maybe and nobody's called. 485 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 4: The phone's not ringing. Maybe this is a chance. I'm 486 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 4: not saying. 487 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 2: I don't know what the answer is, but I know 488 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 2: Joe has been busy calling every agent, every available guy 489 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 2: out there, making trades. Who might you who might you 490 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: be able to shake loose that could come in here 491 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 2: and win games right now if they have to, because 492 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody's going to come off the street 493 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 2: anybody and just step in and play right away. 494 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: It's Robert Salad was clear about it that Zach has 495 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: team right now. 496 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 4: I think Zach has two weeks to prove it. Right. 497 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 3: We understand how daunting the task is. You know, the 498 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 3: first six games, how hard they would be. We knew 499 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 3: that before the season with Aaron Rodgers, without Anon Rodgers. 500 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 3: But I'm gonna give Zach two weeks before I really 501 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 3: go big fish hunting. And I'm trying to go big 502 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 3: fish hunting now. But you have to ask yourself, right, 503 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 3: if you go big fish hunting, what are you say 504 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 3: saying Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers has come in, He's given 505 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,719 Speaker 3: thirty million dollars back. He's been a guy that's been 506 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 3: all in. If you go out and you tell you know, 507 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 3: the Rams, I got a first round draft pick, you 508 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 3: give me Matthew Stafford. 509 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 4: You can go out and. 510 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 3: Get Kayler Williams because you're going to have two first 511 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 3: round draft picks and have an opportunity to get your 512 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 3: future quarterback. Who knows he might say that Kaylor Williams 513 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 3: has said he'll go back to school if I believe 514 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 3: if a team like Arizona tries to draft him because 515 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 3: Aaron flux. You know, but you can see a USC 516 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 3: kid wanting to play for a team that won the 517 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 3: Super Bowl a couple of years ago and be with 518 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 3: a guy like Sean McVay. But then also you got 519 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 3: to understand what is that saying to Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers, 520 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 3: if he believes come back, he can't make that decision 521 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 3: right now, so you can't make a long term decision. 522 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 3: So it has to be somebody that understands that this 523 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 3: is still Aaron Rodgers team until it's not so. I 524 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 3: think about a guy like Jacoby Brissett. I think about 525 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 3: a guy like Teddy two Gloves who's been here before, 526 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 3: and you say, well, why would these teams give up, 527 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 3: you know, a guy like Teddy two Gloves. Why would 528 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 3: they give up a guy like Jacoby Brissett Because they 529 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 3: are one of the best bats in the game that 530 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 3: you can trust that can come in. 531 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 4: You can win games with even Tyrod Taylor. 532 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 3: But why would the Giants ever make a deal with 533 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 3: the Jets right, you know, and help them and then 534 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 3: if something happens to Daniel Jones, But the Jets still 535 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 3: have a surplus. I said in pass rushers and pass 536 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 3: rushers are a premium and if you have to use 537 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 3: some of your personnel, that's your best chance I believe 538 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 3: to get a player. 539 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 4: Draft picks. 540 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, the draft picks going to match the type of 541 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 3: conversation you get. If you want to get a high 542 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,239 Speaker 3: end quality back up and somebody that can potentially come in, 543 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 3: whether it's even an Andy Dalton, it's gonna you know, 544 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 3: it may cost you a player or a high draft pip. 545 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 3: But a guy like Jakob ber said, I think you're 546 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 3: going to have to get creative, maybe send a player 547 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 3: and get a four back and return. 548 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 4: And then get the backup. They have said they're all in, Bart, 549 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 4: You're all in. You're all in. 550 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, And look, it was unfortunate circumstances. Nobody could have 551 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 2: foreseen what happened. But I think you still have to 552 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:50,719 Speaker 2: be all in. 553 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: And we saw improvement from Zach Wilson throughout the summer. 554 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: And like we talked about at the top, they started 555 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: five and two last year, we're seven and four. 556 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: You're looking at right now. Is an insurance policy, yeah, 557 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 2: because he gets hurt. 558 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 4: He gets hurt too. 559 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 2: He's been so you have to protect yourself and that's 560 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 2: that's what it is. But we all look, we all 561 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 2: want to see Zach succeed. The league needs Zach. This 562 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 2: is a big market. The league needs the Jets to 563 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 2: be prime time. They need Zact to be good. We 564 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 2: all need This league is built on quarterback play. We 565 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 2: need great quarterback play. We need Zact to develop and 566 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: be good. 567 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: Do you see the similarities with the Sanchez situation? Different rosters, 568 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: but just talking about the top level elite defense, the personnel, 569 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 1: really good running back. 570 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 3: I just don't know if you can consistently win that 571 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 3: way anymore, because the game has opened up a lot 572 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 3: more since you know, I left the league a long 573 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 3: time ago, right, So I think you can. 574 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 4: You can. It can be a variation of that. 575 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 3: You can kind of try and win kind of how 576 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 3: like Tennessee used to win with great defense and running 577 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 3: the ball at a high level, you know, And maybe 578 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 3: you call up easy and now you have four backs 579 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 3: up so you can keep that stable going to keep 580 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 3: everybody fresh, because I still think you don't want to 581 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 3: get Brice hall numbers. 582 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 4: Up too much. Right now. 583 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 3: We got to see how that knee handles when he 584 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 3: gets fatigued, when the fatigue of the season starts to 585 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 3: bear down on you. So I much rather try and 586 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 3: keep him fresh. So I think you may bring up 587 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 3: four running backs and then consider that being like pony packages, 588 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 3: because you're saying, okay, well maybe we put a tight 589 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 3: end down because now we got your four backs up, 590 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 3: but we use that personnel. And I love to see 591 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 3: Breece Hall run a will route. I love to see 592 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,719 Speaker 3: Izzy at what a four to two or four to 593 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 3: three and forced to see off linebacks and keep up one. 594 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 4: Right on the old goal route. 595 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 3: Right because and also what I need to see is 596 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 3: the adjustment that I believe the Buffalo Bills made. They 597 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 3: understand that Dix has tough matchups on the outside to 598 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 3: read and salt. What do they do They move them 599 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 3: in the slot and match him up against Michael Carter. 600 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 3: But also that allowed him to get free releases. You 601 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 3: want easy throws for for Garrett Wilson as well. Well, 602 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 3: you know, so I would see putting him in the 603 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 3: slought a lot more so that he can get free 604 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,959 Speaker 3: releases and get space. And we know how quick he 605 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 3: is in space and keeping guys to keep up with 606 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 3: his quickness, his vertical acceleration, also his lateral quickness. 607 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Jets went big number of those packages. I 608 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: like what I saw out of Jeremy Rutgers in a 609 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: blocking game, and they do. 610 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 2: They played a lot of thirteen personnel. Yeah, played a 611 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 2: lot of three tight end sets. Look, it just stretches 612 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 2: all the gaps and double double. The eighty three yard 613 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: run by Breeche was off three tight ends and Rutgers 614 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 2: did a good job of ceiling with Uzama right there 615 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 2: and Conkling, and he had one guy to beat and 616 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: that was Stredavious White and beat him and he was 617 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 2: off to the races. 618 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 3: You didn't breaking and bring him down with a hand 619 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 3: with an arm tackle. But the thing is as well, 620 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 3: when you talk about that package, you know Breecee did 621 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 3: a great job in understanding that the space was going 622 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 3: to reduce. It's not where the defender how much space 623 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 3: you have when you're you know, start to run. He 624 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 3: knew that it was going to reduce, and he trusted 625 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 3: that the tight ends on the double team was gonna 626 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 3: continue to get movement. And you know, uh to Davis 627 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 3: the patient, Yeah, but that's what you have to be 628 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 3: because Davis understands he can't get he can't let anybody 629 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 3: circle the defense. So he wasn't taking the error away 630 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 3: and that's the edge reduced. That created just enough space 631 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 3: for Breefe to thread him outside to just get vertical 632 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 3: and corners aren't put in those situations. As a linebacker, 633 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 3: I know I have to continue to take the space 634 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 3: and stay on the upfilled shoulder not to allow him 635 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 3: to get outside. But if the double team continues, even 636 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 3: you see it a lot of times with tackles and 637 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 3: guards when they have the tight end, they creating that space. 638 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 3: To widen that bubble, you have to continue to take 639 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 3: that space away by coming downhill. And corners don't want 640 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 3: that smoke. 641 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, no, you're mare for cornerbacks on that. 642 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 3: But that's what you do. You say, Okay, you got 643 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 3: a great corner that can that can cover. We're gonna 644 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 3: see if he can tackle today, and the most corners, 645 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 3: like Deona said, show me, show me a quarter that 646 00:28:59,440 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 3: could cover. 647 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 4: I tell you what it came to. 648 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: We could talk about Dion for a couple of hours, 649 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: what he's doing right. 650 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 2: I mean, Rex's famous line was like, I don't care 651 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 2: if my corners can tackle. I got nine other guys 652 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 2: that can tackle, exactly. I don't want corners save touchdowns. 653 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: Because they had fifty seven out there making all those plays. 654 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: All right, So do you like the cord that Robert 655 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: Salaz struck early this week when he was talking to 656 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: the media and said, I don't know about you guys 657 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: right now, obituary on this team just yet. 658 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 4: There's a good line. 659 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a good line, and I think he believes it. 660 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 2: And but you have to sell that. You have to 661 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 2: sell that it's about the team. It's not about one guy. 662 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 2: As good as that one guy is. It's not about 663 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 2: one guy. It's about the team and the team and 664 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 2: he that was proven on Monday night against Look, the 665 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills just won the division three years in a row. 666 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 3: Like there's a team to be no wash the Bills 667 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 3: and how they play later and they'd be like, oh, 668 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 3: Josh Allen can't play. 669 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 4: No, it's a Jets problem. Defense is that good? It's 670 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 4: like one of those things you got to give credit 671 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 4: to the opponent, and I think. 672 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: We overreact for everything. Josh Allen stakes, right. 673 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll see that. 674 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Jets that openly touchdown is Van Diggs was like, 675 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 2: not many players can make that. 676 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 3: The Jets make them stink because they keep him under 677 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 3: constant durest. And in this game, when you have a 678 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 3: defense that can play at a high level, right, all 679 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 3: it takes is three miscalculations or four or five. 680 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 4: Josh Allen probably probably had. 681 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 3: You know, if he go looked at the film, he 682 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,719 Speaker 3: may have had like seventy eighty percent great plays, but 683 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 3: that twenty percent is forced by you know, the the defense, 684 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 3: you know, putting him under the rest him getting hit 685 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 3: the Raiders this week, so. 686 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 2: That nine quarterback hits five sacks, right, so he he 687 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 2: takes his eyes off the ball a simple snap, yeah, yeah, 688 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 2: because he take his eyes off the snap. 689 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, because he's coming. Yeah. So, like that's what makes 690 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 4: you flinch. Like not everything can make you do that. 691 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: That comes from two organizations and two coaches that basically said, 692 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 2: if you hit quarterbacks early, they're gonna give it to 693 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 2: you late. And like I Rex used to say that, 694 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 2: like that's that's how they thought in Baltimore. Like that's 695 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 2: what you got it. Like you you make it doesn't 696 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 2: matter what the name of the back of the jersey is. 697 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,239 Speaker 2: You hit these guys early. Like, believe me, they they 698 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 2: eternal clock. That eternal clock speeds up. 699 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: Get the head of snick. That's the bottom line. And 700 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: the Jets got the numbers to do that each and 701 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: every week. Okay, Dallas, what do you think about Not 702 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: so much looking back and saying the Giants what they 703 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: did to the Giants, but more so styles make fights. 704 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: So how did the Jets match up with the Cowboys? 705 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 2: Well, you can't, like look, Dallas scored two special teams 706 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 2: in defensive touchdown. I mean that opened the game wide open. 707 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: Giants couldn't recover from them. So you can't you can't 708 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 2: make those kind of mistakes. 709 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 4: But if you do. 710 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 2: They were down in fourth quarter thirteen to three, they 711 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 2: came back. I would say that make Dak Prescott beat 712 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 2: you like play like they got one big play to 713 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 2: CD the other day off a pick play against man 714 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 2: coverage sixty four. 715 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 4: I have something like that, like one sixty. He didn't 716 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 4: have to have a great. 717 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 2: He didn't have to have a So you know, Mike, 718 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy took the ball out of his hands. Tony 719 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 2: Pollard is a quality back. I don't know that they 720 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 2: have a second back, so like beat him, you know. 721 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 4: Look, yeah, no, no, we can go ahead and say. 722 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 2: Sometimes in there's a world bart like you say things 723 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 2: that we used to say. Yeah, gets you in trouble. 724 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 2: But see how much you want to play, you know, 725 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 2: make him feel your punch. Let me put it that way, 726 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 2: to feel your punch. 727 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: But you like this matchup in the secondary because you 728 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: think the Jets are going to be challenged by a 729 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: good set of receivers too. 730 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 3: I do, And I think sometimes you just mix the 731 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 3: coverage up, you mix up variations of zone and man 732 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 3: two man. I think you're dropping whole whole guys down there. 733 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 3: You drop some rat some rat players, right, you think, 734 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 3: right now, White hens playing at a high level. He's 735 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 3: seeing the field very well, right. I think you make 736 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 3: Dak fitted into tight spots. And we know tip balls 737 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 3: change games, right, So when you got tight man coverage, 738 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 3: you challenge these guys as the line of scrimmage because 739 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 3: I think you know it may have been a little 740 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 3: bit more difficult. Tyron Smith is when healthy, is one 741 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 3: of the best. But then I think Jermaine Johnson played well. 742 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 3: I don't know if Carl Lawson is going to be 743 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 3: up this week, but that's what you pay those guys 744 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 3: for your first round draft pick for a reason. And 745 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 3: you're a high price free agent for us for a 746 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,959 Speaker 3: reason for these type of games. 747 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 4: Give him hell, right. 748 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 3: And on the other side, listen, Quinny, this is what 749 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 3: people want to see you the best versus the best. 750 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 3: So let's let's measure yourself against a nine times all pro. 751 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 4: Let's see if you want that smoke. 752 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 3: I remember like we would come in on Wednesdays and 753 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 3: be like, hey Linbrack's got tough lifting today, right, we 754 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 3: got LT. We're gonna dominate LT, right, and we were 755 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 3: always real. I was with the Jets or I was 756 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 3: with the Ravens. We were all waves up for a challenge, right. 757 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 3: We didn't give up many hundred yard rushers, and we 758 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 3: took pride in that right. And you gotta understand set 759 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 3: the standard, like all right, when everybody watched this damn film. 760 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 3: This film ain't for for this week. It's for this week, 761 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 3: next week and the week before, like whoa, whoa, and 762 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 3: hold them like we say, hold him up early in 763 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 3: the game, hold him up, don't take him down. We 764 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 3: all gonna get we all gonna get a piece of this. 765 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 3: We all don't take him down. If you got him, 766 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 3: wrap him around the waist and let everybody take these 767 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 3: Sammy saucer shots at him right quick, and let's see 768 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,439 Speaker 3: what happens when these body blows in the second half. 769 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: I'm here all day, get through this skun all day. 770 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 2: You can't go hunting for interceptions. You have to anticipate it, 771 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 2: tip balls, all those things happen. But Dak Prescott did 772 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 2: lead this league in interceptions last year, and he threw 773 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 2: two more in the postseason against San Francisco. He gets 774 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 2: in trouble late in his progressions and like a lot 775 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 2: of quarterbacks like, Okay, CD's not open right there, Ferguson's closed, 776 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 2: I'm coming back over the middle here, and you get 777 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 2: him late in the progression with that rush coming at 778 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,959 Speaker 2: him like he he Now he can say that's half again, 779 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 2: you can say it. But if I'm Sauce, if I'm DJ, 780 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 2: if I'm Carter, if I'm Whitehead, I'm thinking there's gonna 781 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 2: be two or three that he's gonna throw. It's either 782 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 2: they're gonna make the play or we're gonna. 783 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 4: Make the play. 784 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 2: Like you can get them, there's no doubt you can 785 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 2: get them. And you got to think like that. But 786 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 2: you can't go hunting for it and take chances in gamble. 787 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 2: You got to play your defense. But you got to 788 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 2: keep your eyes open because there're gonna be some opportunities. 789 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: And the Jets. Jets are staying on the national stage 790 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: because after Monday Night Football, where I think they just 791 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: set a ratings record against them, they're going to Dallas. 792 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: They're going to Big. 793 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 4: D afternoon game. 794 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 1: Yea doubleheader slot. 795 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 4: Everybody's watching. 796 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: Everybody's watching, So. 797 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 4: This is what you want. 798 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great opportunity for a long time. 799 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 2: This organization played at one o'clock. They were home and 800 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 2: they're lazy boy at five watching the Lake game, Like 801 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 2: this is what you want to show your in prime 802 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 2: time right now? 803 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 4: You know? 804 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 2: And the biggest ratings grab and this whole league is 805 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 2: the Cowboys and it's their home opener, right But I 806 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 2: played in Dallas part and if you get I don't 807 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 2: care what year it is. I don't care who the 808 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 2: coach is. When the Cowboys are getting beat in the 809 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 2: fourth quarter, fans they're not sticking around like they did 810 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 2: the other day. 811 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 4: They'll leave him. 812 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 2: They're getting too the parking lot, they're beating the traffic, 813 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,439 Speaker 2: like there's no better feeling that if you come into 814 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 2: Dallas at and T Stadium and you see fans leaving, 815 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,280 Speaker 2: there's no better feeling. 816 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 3: I want to see a guy, see I take a 817 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 3: person like whenever you go against guys, like when you're 818 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,280 Speaker 3: trying to sin and become a superstar, you take it personal. 819 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 3: So if I'm goy like Vera Tucker, I said, y'all 820 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 3: think he the guy, let me show. 821 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 4: You what I got. 822 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I want to see them pulling the next generation. Yeah, 823 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 3: I want I want to see them pulling Vera Tucker. 824 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 3: I want them to highlight Vera Tucker in this run game. 825 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 3: He's one of the in my opinion. If he would 826 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 3: have got hurt and he would have just played guard 827 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 3: last year, he'd have been a Pro Bowler and this 828 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 3: year he'd have been on schedule for All progre He's 829 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 3: one of the best, most versatile, but he's selfless, right, 830 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 3: so he moved the tackle if you need him to 831 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 3: and play at a high level, and I give up 832 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 3: any sacks. Before the injury, he was playing some of 833 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 3: the best football that I've seen from offensive line. 834 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 2: I remember Zeke talking about Jack Martin. Youre talking about 835 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 2: Jack Martin, the right guard, Yes, in his tenth year 836 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 2: right now, and he just got paid like he held out, 837 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 2: didn't go to training camp, and they paid him. And 838 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 2: I remember Zeke saying a couple of years ago, our 839 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 2: best player is number seventy. He goes I don't care 840 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 2: if the play is supposed to go left, it ends 841 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 2: up behind seventy. And when you watch the Cowboys play, 842 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 2: it ends up behind the right guard. He's just that good, 843 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 2: and so Quinny goes up against him. You want to 844 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 2: get matched up. You want to show everybody like while 845 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 2: you're worth the check that the Jets wrote, Like beat 846 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 2: Zack Martin, beat Zack Martin the way you beat that 847 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,720 Speaker 2: center the other day, Like you do that that catches 848 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:30,439 Speaker 2: everybody's eye. 849 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,760 Speaker 1: All right, Prime time performances from both of you guys today. 850 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: That's Brian baldinre Bart Scott, Subscribe, break Review, had a 851 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,439 Speaker 1: coffee as well, and bang the like on YouTube. These 852 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: guys are bringing it not only here in the podcast, 853 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 1: but Jet's Game Day with Robert Sala that airs this 854 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: weekend at CBS, also on New York Tess dot com 855 00:37:53,040 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: and YouTube. We'll see y'all later, ye