1 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: Shannon the Door was driving under the influence, hit someone's property, 2 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: hit and run, then pretended she was I guess walking 3 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: her dog. And people are making fun of it on 4 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: social media, and I swear to you, I don't know 5 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: if I'm getting softer in my old age. I don't 6 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: know that I ever would have made fun of that. 7 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: I felt compassion first. I don't even know if it 8 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: was just for her, but just like I felt like, oh, amazing, 9 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: this is somebody to drag. Now. It is not admirable 10 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: to drive under the influence. She is not the first 11 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: person to ever have done it. It is certainly less 12 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: admirable to crash into someone's property and then it's a 13 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: hit and run. It certainly makes you think of what 14 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: if it was a person and driving under the influence 15 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: is so disgusting and so selfish and what if you 16 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: hurt someone? But people are happy about it. That's what 17 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 1: freaks me out. Like it's not like people are like, Wow, 18 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: that's really unsafe and unfortunate and irresponsible. People are like laughing, 19 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: like ooh, I guess this other one on the show 20 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: is gonna be excited. Like that's what's getting disgusting about 21 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: reality TV. That people are just thinking of it as 22 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: content and like that. I guess she made fun of 23 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: somebody else's duy, a girl, Gina on the show, and 24 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: so now that girl gets to make fun of her, 25 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: and then this is going to be the talk of 26 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: the reunion. And it's really fucked up. Like it's really 27 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: fucked up. And it's not the first thing my body 28 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: thought of. I just I swear on my life, my 29 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: body thought of, oh my god, I'm so glad everyone's okay, 30 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: because a dui is fucked and it's just it's a 31 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: turn off. It's bad. But then that you could really 32 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: kill somebody and hurt somebody, and there could have been 33 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: a kid on the lawn of that house, and it's 34 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: just it's very scary. It's just very unfortunate. And I 35 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: think of I've been thinking of Tamra lately because Tamra. 36 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: I think she sort of came out against my either 37 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: Raquel interview or something else. Tamra's the type of person 38 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: that if you like, you know, if you say one 39 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: thing towards her, she like has to snap back and 40 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: is very you know, she's spiteful. She has to like 41 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: go for it. Because I've said really positive things about 42 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 1: her before and being a goat and an amazing housewife. 43 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: And I talked about an episode that she was on 44 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: on The Housewives of OC, the Naked Wasted one, on 45 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: how it was an example of this genre of television 46 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: where it's a genre where it's okay for women to 47 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: get somebody wasted and then someone's son to go force 48 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: themselves on another person and the cameras don't stop. I 49 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: don't blame Tamra for that anymore than I blame anybody 50 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: else or myself or the things that I've done on 51 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: reality television and said that don't reflect who I am 52 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: in a normal, non stressful environment. I never blame the talent. 53 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: I genuinely don't blame the talent. I don't blame when 54 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: you're on the field, and when you're in the Hunger Games, 55 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: it is kill or be killed. It is a zero 56 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,839 Speaker 1: sum game. You are there to drive ratings, and it's 57 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: taken me years and years to rinse it off. And 58 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: in the way that it takes like over a year 59 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: or two for your body to bounce back after having 60 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: a baby, it takes years for your psyche, your mind, 61 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: and your emotional well being to bounce back after being 62 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: on the Housewives and being really good at it. Many 63 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: people try it, are bad at it, leave and that's 64 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: probably because they're too ethical, too good. It's just not 65 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: worth it. But I was very good at it, and 66 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: I was all in with it, and it took me 67 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: a really long time to realize all the things that 68 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: are not correct about it as a genre. And I'm 69 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: not a hypocrite. I'm just a person who's older and 70 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: wiser and doesn't have to do that for money anymore. 71 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: So I do not blame tamorra anymore than I blame 72 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: anyone else, anymore than I blame Raquel or Tom or 73 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: anyone else. It does not reflect real life. I am sorry. 74 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: And I was thinking about this episode of New York 75 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: when Barbara was caught saying something about Tom Luan's fiance. 76 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: She had a hot mic, and they aired it because 77 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: there is no line with reality television and the producers 78 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: that people think of their friends. Their number one goal 79 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: is ratings, so Barbara. So it's legal in New York 80 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: to record a phone call. So I could get on 81 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: the phone with Paul and say some things to him, 82 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: and he could say some things to me that are 83 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: private and I could record it and I could air 84 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: it here on this podcast, and it is legal. Does 85 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: that make it right? And he's signed up for this relationship, 86 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: but he's with a crazy person and a public person. 87 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: Does that make that right? And why I say that 88 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: is that that incident ruined Barbara and Lewan's relationship because 89 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: Barbara was saying negative things about Tom on a hot mic. 90 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: She did not ever or intend anyone to hear. She 91 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: signed a release because she was gonna be at a party, 92 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: but she didn't sign on that every thought that she 93 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: has in her mind, by the thought police is going 94 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: to be aired for profit content. She's not a housewife 95 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: like even there are so many things that we say 96 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: that we regret on camera when we know we're being recorded. 97 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: That that's dangerous enough, that's a risk enough. Now talk 98 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: about if you're on a hot mic. That's so frightening. 99 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: And I say this because I was watching It's the 100 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: one where Lenny has a hot mic and he's in 101 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: the kitchen and he's talking about how he's been sleeping 102 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: with someone else and he's leaving Lisa. Now, I've met 103 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: Lisa a couple times. I think she's very nice. I 104 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: like her. There are many housewives I've met from other 105 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: cities that I really like, just like many housewives from 106 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: other cities have met me that they really like. And 107 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: then there are people from New York Housewives that could 108 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:55,239 Speaker 1: hate me because they get a different experience than my nice, 109 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: pleasant relationship with Phaedra or Lisa Hoxney because we're not 110 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: at war together, we're not on the back I feel together. 111 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: So Lisa would feel very differently about Larsa if they 112 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: didn't work together on that toxic battlefield. So what I'm 113 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: saying is I like Lisa. I think she's very nice. 114 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: I don't know that much about her, but I don't 115 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: know about her marriage. I met her on a trip. 116 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: We all went on a trip together, Lenny, her and 117 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: like fifty people, and they seem fun and she's the 118 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: life of the party. But that doesn't mean I know her. 119 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: So I'm not going to judge her or Lenny, except 120 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: that I'm team Lisa because I've met her, I like her, 121 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: and I'm going with the girl. But that's still even 122 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: Let's pretend he's a full scumbag he got engaged with 123 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: someone else. These two aren't legally divorced. Okay, I think 124 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: I might have done that too. I think I might 125 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: have done that too. I think Kim Kardashian did that. 126 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: I think people have done that. Okay, I'm not sitting 127 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: here in judgment. I'm saying on a television show, Lenny 128 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: wasn't on camera, he's not the housewife, he's not being paid. 129 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: He's signed a release because he's part of this, but like, 130 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 1: it doesn't look like he's really loving being on the 131 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: show overall or in this instant. He's on a hot 132 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: mic talking about cheating on his wife, talking about maybe 133 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: leaving her. Does that mean it's right that they air 134 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: that He didn't consent to that content going public, He 135 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: didn't want it going public just because he signed a release. 136 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: Does that mean that, like it should be a loophole 137 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: and their relationship secrets should be aired. What if she 138 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: thought that the fucking trainer at her gym was hot 139 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,559 Speaker 1: and told one of her friends he's got a fucking 140 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: hot ass and I'd hit that. Does that mean that 141 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: that's supposed to be aired because it's like because she 142 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: thought it? Like, And I'm not defending Lenny by any 143 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: stretch of anyone's imagination. He's I've already publicly, you know, 144 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: said watching him get engaged was like picking out of 145 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: a garbage bin, you know, a discount bin, you know, 146 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: for the five dollars bin. I've already said that. I'm 147 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: just talking about a construct of being on a hot 148 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: mic and not knowing that what you're saying is going 149 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: to be used on television. Like, there's got to be 150 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,559 Speaker 1: a line with that. It wasn't something he wanted out there, 151 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: and he's not the main character. And people are in 152 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: relationships that cheat and then they still stay together. People 153 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: are in relationships where one person doesn't really want to know. 154 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: Many people Luan didn't want to know. Many women don't 155 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: want to know. More women don't want to know than 156 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: do because what if they can't afford to get a divorce. 157 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: Ignorance is bliss? What if they have an open relationship. 158 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: So it's just something that hit me when I watched it, 159 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: because I thought they'll stop at nothing. It's just it's 160 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: for profit, and he did sign up for it. I 161 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: get that, but there has to be a line. He 162 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: signed up, But it should be like if you know 163 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: you're being filmed, that's what should air. It should not 164 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: be like you not everything you have. You think every 165 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: thing I've thought about my relationship with Paul should not 166 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: be public. I wouldn't want everyone to know. He wouldn't 167 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: love everything I've said to my friends about my relationship. 168 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: I wouldn't love everything he said to his therapist about me. 169 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: That's not what real life is. Barbara and Luan would 170 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: still probably be friends to this day if it wasn't 171 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: a hot mic on a show that she wasn't being 172 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: paid to be on because she had signed a release 173 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: to enter a building that's fucked up. It it affected 174 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: their relationship forever. So I don't care if it's wrong 175 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: to talk about this medium because I was paid and 176 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: made a lot of money and signed up for it. 177 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: I don't care. I just I'm seeing things differently. And 178 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: when I did tell Luanne about the Tom affair, I 179 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: told it on camera it was for profit content. I 180 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: own that. I recognize that. I get that that was 181 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: kill or be killed, that was the Hunger Games, that 182 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: was the Unsullied, And I wasn't friends of Luanna, and 183 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: I didn't really care. And you're either being killed or 184 00:09:55,120 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: killing so you want, you need, you need the on 185 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: someone else as they needed on you. At all times, 186 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: because you never know when you're gonna have to use it. 187 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: It's war, and no honest housewife will tell you any different. 188 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: They all know it's fucking war. If you have it, 189 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: the producers want it coming into the show, and if 190 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: you have it, you'll save it for a rainy day 191 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: because you will need it. Ooh, okay, a couple of 192 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: things housewives. Two housewives have reached out to me whose 193 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: stories you would want to hear. I've only ever had 194 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: Jill Zarin, and that was more about a reunion than 195 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: about housewives. But we didn't even really. Yeah, we did talk. 196 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: We rewatched Housewives, but I did not have her on 197 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: because she was a housewife. I had her on because 198 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: we were close friends and we reunited. Housewives have wanted 199 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 1: to talk about things that you would find very entertaining 200 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: and would be very clickbaity and very provocative. Bravo block them. 201 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 1: Bravo for bade Housewives not in writing from doing this show. 202 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: That's some tea, okay. In other news, I said to 203 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: Paul about Maurice doing Dancing with the Stars. Maurice is 204 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: the only person who has four names, Mo, Mauricio, Maudicio 205 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 1: or Maurice. I've met Maurice as Maurice, and I think 206 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: his friends called him mo Maudi cio is I think 207 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: what his family would probably call him. Mauricio is also 208 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: his name. He's got four names. He's who else has 209 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: four names? I gotta give him that he could be 210 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: a different name each week of Dancing with the Stars. 211 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's brilliant of him to 212 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: do it. I think it's brilliant of them to ask him. 213 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting that he's doing it before Kyle. 214 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: I can't imagine why Kyle hasn't done it. She loves dancing. 215 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: Fun fact, I've been asked to do it since the 216 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: very beginning. I was asked to be a celebrity apprentice 217 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: since the very beginning too, But same with Dancing with 218 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: the Stars, and I've always turned it down, not because 219 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: I'm better than it or anything. Brinn was young, going 220 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,599 Speaker 1: out to La to do it was never a possibility, 221 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: and I don't know. I haven't wanted to do it. 222 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: Is that is that just a good enough answer? But 223 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: I was the first housewife to be asked to do it, 224 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: but I didn't want to do it, and I love 225 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: it and I love them and I love ABC and 226 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: it's great, but I can't give a good reason. And 227 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: the casting person always emails she's love and amazing and 228 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: it's a great show. So I think it's brilliant of 229 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: Maurice to do it, brilliant of ABC to ask him, 230 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: brilliant of Dina Katz to think of him. I do 231 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: think it's interesting that Kyle hasn't done it. Kyle's now 232 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: leaned into I guess Maurice being famous some tea. He's 233 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: always wanted it really badly, and he did help push 234 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: that whole business and that whole fame model in their 235 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: home forward. I mean, Beverly Hills is very much a 236 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: show of husbands and wives, and Maurice, you know, the 237 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: hot house husband, and he's been part of that equation. 238 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: I know that. You know it's a double edged sword. 239 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: I know Durinda experienced it understandably when you bring in 240 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: your partner and like, now they're becoming famous and doing 241 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: carpets too, and it's not really about the fame, but 242 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: it sometimes turns you off when they now are all 243 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: into Instagram and social media when they weren't like that, 244 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: when they're loving the light and it's double standard because 245 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: you're doing it and you love the light, or you 246 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: may not love the light, but you're in the light 247 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: and you're the peacock, and then when they become the 248 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: peacock too, it can be challenging if people didn't enter 249 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: that together. It's always best when one person doesn't really 250 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: want it and kind of just is there to indulge you, 251 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: but when the other person really wants it, which Maurice 252 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: definitely does. And I know that because Kyle didn't want 253 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: Maurice to kind of be doing his own TV stuff, 254 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: you know, and he was. We had it. We share 255 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: an agent years ago, and the agent was getting on 256 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: the phone with Maurice about this other show, not Housewives, 257 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: and said, do you want me to get Kyle on? 258 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: Because it was kind of going to be their thing, 259 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: but I don't, you know, it was really his thing. 260 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: It was their thing, but it was his thing the 261 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: way The Housewives was her thing and she wasn't that 262 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: into that, which I get. You know, they did the Housewives. 263 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: It was a means to an end. Let's build our businesses, 264 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: let's make money, but we don't need to like have 265 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: you over there doing your own show. That's also going 266 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: on with Heather Dubreu and Terry where he's a big star. 267 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: Now that's got to be fairly annoying, I'm sure. So 268 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: it was happening where Maurice was trying to get his 269 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: own show, which and he said to the agent when 270 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: the agent said let's get kylong because she was like 271 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: the primary client, Oh, don't worry, we don't need to 272 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: get her on, because he really wanted it. So Maurice 273 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: has wanted the light and the fame, and that's his prerogative. 274 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: You know, he has a business, he's liked the attention, 275 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: he's become wealthy. He used to be in the garment industry. 276 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: He's very forward facing. People have thought he's very hot. 277 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: He's wanted the light, and maybe that's part of what 278 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: happened in their relationship. You know, they came in together 279 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: and she was the peacock. And now he's on Dancing 280 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: with the Stars and he might be wearing a peacock costume. 281 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: Who knows, he might be on the mask singer soon 282 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: wearing a peacock costume. It's just always challenging when there 283 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: are two peacocks in a relationship. It's interesting that Maurice 284 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: is going to be on Dancing with the Stars. I'm 285 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: sure she'll cheer him on. I'm sure the kids will 286 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: be there too. He's got his own shows buying Beverly Hills. 287 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: And also, you know, you can't fight the ocean. So 288 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: once Maurice started being beloved by the audience and started 289 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: being funny and they became a famous duo and they 290 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: do commercials and stuff together, Kyle probably just leaned in 291 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: and said, Maurice is famous. Now. All boats rise with 292 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: the tide and it's all going into the family pot anyway. 293 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: So I hope to see Kyle watching Maurice. I hope 294 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: to see him dancing the night away and congratulations and 295 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm excited, and the audience is going to love it. 296 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: But headline, it's brilliant across the board.