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Speaker 1: Cassie Ventura took the stand yesterday and Diddy's sexual assault trial.

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Speaker 2: Yeah Yeah, she did. Star witness.

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Speaker 1: Cassie was, of course, a longtime girlfriend of Ditty, and

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Speaker 1: when asked about the beginning of her relationship with Ditty,

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Speaker 1: she told jurors quote, there was a seventeen year age difference.

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Speaker 2: I was really confused at the time, new artist. I

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Speaker 2: was pretty naive.

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Speaker 1: Cassie testified that she and Ditty's professional and personal relationship

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Speaker 1: became blurred quickly, and she frequently visited Ditty at a

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Speaker 1: hotel in New York and explained that she wanted to

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Speaker 1: be around Diddy because he was powerful, magnetic, and very

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Speaker 1: much in control of her career. Cassie recalled her first

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Speaker 1: freak off at age twenty two with Ditty and a

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Speaker 1: sex worker, saying there was a lot of drugs, alcohol,

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Speaker 1: and baby oil. Cassie also gave gut runching accounts of

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Speaker 1: the physical abuse that Diddy inflicted on her while they dated.

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Speaker 2: Did He's legal? They asked her.

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Speaker 1: One of the attorneys asked her how frequently, and she

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Speaker 1: said too frequently.

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Speaker 2: He beat her too frequently. That was her respond to, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was just unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't know what what the cross have

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Speaker 3: they done a cross examination of the defense.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, every I mean the prosecution and

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Speaker 1: the defense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, talk to her, yeah, because they're trying to paint

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Speaker 4: a picture that you know, it was consensual because she

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Speaker 4: stayed in the relationship for so long, but the psychological abuse,

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Speaker 4: the physical little, the drug.

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Speaker 2: She was scared, she was.

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Speaker 5: Very young, and her career career, control over her career,

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Speaker 5: and people that are blaming her as the victim instead

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Speaker 5: of the abuser.

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Speaker 2: I just I don't, I don't understand.

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Speaker 3: Here's where the breakdown comes in that you can tell

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Speaker 3: that she had had enough, that it was against her

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Speaker 3: will because they got a tape of her running putting

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Speaker 3: her shoes on at the door. Yeah, this dude putting

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Speaker 3: a towel around his neck, run and chase. We saw

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Speaker 3: him stomp this.

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Speaker 1: Girl and she said that he dragged her. He stomped

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Speaker 1: her in the head, he pulled her by her hair.

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Speaker 3: She had whatever the des is talking about. I'm the prosecutor,

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Speaker 3: go yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was consentual.

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Speaker 2: Caroll tape again, please, yeah, they said, And this is

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Speaker 2: what else.

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Speaker 1: The defense team said that Cassie made a choice every

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Speaker 1: day for ten years to stay and fight for Diddy,

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Speaker 1: and when she finally made the choice to leave, she

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Speaker 1: ran into the arms of another man, Alex Fine, who

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Speaker 1: was her husband. So you know, as so, yeah, it

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Speaker 1: really is we got to run to someone, Yeah, get

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Speaker 1: to get out of there. She just wanted to leave.

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Speaker 2: She said.

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Speaker 1: He knew her whereabouts every single minute of the day,

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Speaker 1: so there was no know where really for her to

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Speaker 1: run at that time. You know, he would always go

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Speaker 1: back and get her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right. And the more you hear

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Speaker 3: this type of stuff, the more you understand about the

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Speaker 3: mental abuse of abusive relationships, that you can mentally be

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Speaker 3: controlled mentally. It's not just physical, because you know, there's

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Speaker 3: reports that he threatened if you do this, I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: hurt your family, you know, And you get the feeling

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Speaker 3: like you this man has the power to control every

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Speaker 3: aspect of my life. He can hurt my family. Let

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Speaker 3: me just go along with just because I don't want

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Speaker 3: nothing to have no mamas. You know, now, all these

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Speaker 3: people with these other comments, y'all make me sick because

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Speaker 3: seeing if it were you or your child, your daughter,

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Speaker 3: your sister, you know where where where's your heart for

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Speaker 3: the victim? Here? See, I don't like people who don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't see how.

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Speaker 3: I know you don't see how because it ain't happened

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Speaker 3: to you. That seemed to me like she could have.

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Speaker 3: I got what you say, and it seemed like she

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Speaker 3: could have. But hear what happened though, Yeah, excuse me,

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Speaker 3: roll tape.

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Speaker 2: See you talk. I'm telling you right, I'm on trial.

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Speaker 2: It ain't him trials.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what so many men have said. Tell me,

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Speaker 1: so many men have said that, you know, and you

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Speaker 1: could televise it with their daughter, with their daughter you.

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Speaker 5: Want to do.

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Speaker 3: It ain't nothing you can say to me. This is

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Speaker 3: not a probably a good example. But you know the

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Speaker 3: story that you've been watching about that black dude who

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Speaker 3: police officers killed his son, shotting and then he went

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Speaker 3: out the next day and killed a police officer, and

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Speaker 3: he went to court the next day and looked at

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Speaker 3: all the policemen. Yeah it was a different police officer,

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Speaker 3: which I didn't. That wasn't the way. I don't but

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Speaker 3: but but but now here's and that was horrible for

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Speaker 3: this innocent man. That was horrible. But what he was

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Speaker 3: saying was, oh, y'all gonna do this to me. I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna do this to y'all. Now that's not, like I said,

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Speaker 3: the best example. But for men who are watching this

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Speaker 3: who have daughters, no brother, Noah, brother Puffy, listen to me.

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Speaker 2: Man and his own daughters are in court too.

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Speaker 1: You know they leave during certain parts of the testimony,

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Speaker 1: but they are as well.

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Speaker 3: I heard his mama took him out. They were talking

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Speaker 3: about your nation and all that. But I don't think

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Speaker 3: the daughters need to just go and stay to the

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Speaker 3: house because you finish discover some stuff that's really that

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Speaker 3: you don't. First of all, you don't need to be

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Speaker 3: exposed to now. And I know you can't keep from

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Speaker 3: your kids no more because of the Internet.

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Speaker 2: And they got to go to school. Yeah that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're either juniors or seniors because they've been going

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Speaker 4: to prom and things like that, so towards the end

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Speaker 4: of high school.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure it's.

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Speaker 4: Seventeen or eighteen years old around that age, the darts,

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Speaker 4: the twins.

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Speaker 2: I don't know the age of all his children, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's a lot of people. Yeah, just yeah, this is

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Speaker 2: just horrible. It really is. I mean it's horrific. What

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Speaker 2: a monster you're listening to Hardy morning show