1 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: Well, most up Mets fans, welcome back to another episode 2 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: of the Mets Up Podcast Full Transparency. I'm gonna say 3 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: this early. I'm gonna say quickly, this is a voicemail episode. 4 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: You're gonna hear me specifically be moany and whiny. And 5 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, this is the last episode. 6 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: I'm done with it after this. When I told James 7 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: at the game, is the last of your hearing of 8 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: it me. I will be I'll be realistic. I will 9 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: be truthful in previous in next episodes, not previous, that's 10 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: not how the time works. In the future episodes, I 11 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: will be realistic and truthful. But this is the last 12 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: you'll hear of me being whiny. That being said, we 13 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: have a bunch of voicemail shout to everybody on Instagram 14 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: who reach out to us at mets up on Instagram, 15 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: Twitter and TikTok. If you want to be featured in 16 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: future episodes, it's a great place to do it. We're 17 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: gonna listen to what you guys have to say. We've 18 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: done extensive research. We have got some stats that are 19 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: going to be shocking, and yes, they all lead to 20 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: me wanting Eric Chavez fired if in case anyone was wondering, 21 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: that's where my that's my bias right now. I can't 22 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: I can't stand to see him or Jeremy Barnes continue 23 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: to be working for this team right now. But hey, 24 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: that's why we have the voicemails. It's here what the 25 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: people got to say. Let's see what they have. We'll 26 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: drop our stats in information to really open your guys' 27 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: eyes to how bad it currently is. Because as much 28 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 1: as Carlos Mendoza and everybody in the Mess organization wants 29 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: to say things are okay, these are good hitters, they're 30 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: gonna figure it out. And I half believe it. I 31 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: half believe it. What we've seen so far this year 32 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: is truly staggering and shocking. And when we take the 33 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: numbers and we tell you them out loud, you're gonna 34 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: be pretty surprised too. Shot to everybody who's gonna take 35 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: these stats in roun with them on Twitter tomorrow, James, 36 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: go ahead, drop us a first voicemail. Who do we got? 37 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: What do we got going on? 38 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: First voicemail from friend of the program Jury god voice 39 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: Wien coming in from Jury over here. He said this 40 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: in at three thirty which had to be nine minutes 41 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: after you put the story up on twitther Maybe I 42 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: mean Instagram. Yeah, so here's from Yuri before the game 43 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: even ended on Wednesday. 44 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's up, guys. I don't even know why I'm 45 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 3: sending that voice message. I really got no words for 46 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: this team right now. I hope this is at least 47 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: like a wake up goal, but I've thought that, like 48 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 3: about the last couple of losses. I've been thinking that 49 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: since they've been since I got swept by the Padres. 50 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 3: But I don't know, man, I think I think Jovas 51 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,119 Speaker 3: has to get fired now. I mean, even if it's 52 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: just as a sending a message type deal, I really won't. 53 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, they need to wake up. They need to 54 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 3: play better. But I don't have the answers. I think 55 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 3: nobody has the answers. I think they need to toughen 56 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 3: the fuck up, play better, have a better attitude. Because 57 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 3: a couple of other shots from inside the dugout this game, 58 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 3: everyone's looking down in the domes. Honestly, use this voice moment. 59 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 3: But they stuck right now, need to get better, should 60 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 3: play better. Hit the fucking baseball hard. 61 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: Use his voicemail. That's a great voicemail because I think 62 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: you're right voice Mark, and I didn't get a lot 63 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 2: of insights into how these players looking to dug out 64 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: because because we were at two of the three games 65 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: in the series, and the third game we spent half 66 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: of it at softball watching on our phones, so we 67 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: didn't get to see a lot of the insights we took. 68 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 2: A lot of the reporters have been saying it does 69 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: seem like these guys are down the dumps. Eddie Martinez 70 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 2: specifically mentioned Wan showing want so those showing frustration, but 71 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 2: I mean, you guys do want to hear this, Like 72 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: we're at the pointing the team probably just has to 73 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: fire Eric Chavs just to get adjults, just to get 74 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 2: the juices flowing, or I don't know, Laurns and just 75 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 2: someone something. There has to be something that happens that 76 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: like gives this team like a shock to the system 77 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: that just this isn't okay and like something something is changing, 78 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 2: not that I think it's actually necessarily would or could 79 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: or will change anything, because I think the role of 80 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: the hitting coach is like super overstated, like in the 81 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: the public perception, but it's just kind of I guess 82 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: not to scare people, but just to make them like 83 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: open their eyes and blink a few times and like 84 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: get some moisture back in there and just wake up 85 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: a little bit. 86 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: I think I think it's to show a little life. 87 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: Like Uri said, this team doesn't look like they got Jews. 88 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: It doesn't look they have energy. I mean, do we 89 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: want to drop the stats now, James, Is this the 90 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: time since we're talking about Eric Chavez and what he 91 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: is like as a hitting coach, or we wait a 92 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: little bit longer. 93 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: I think we should wait to some more when we 94 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: get more specific mentions of specific players. We have a 95 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: lot of stats specifically about specific guys I think will 96 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: be fun to fit silent. I'm gonna get some more voicemails. 97 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: You know, can't. 98 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 2: This isn't our show, this is their show. 99 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 1: This is their show. This is the people show. But yeah, 100 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: I me and you talked about and this is the 101 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: first time I've truly heard you be like take away 102 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: like what Chavez is doing fundamentally, philosophically, like whatever. I think, 103 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: just simply to show show a little something to the team, 104 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: maybe wake some guys up, like, Hey, what's happening is unacceptable. 105 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: This is this is to send a message. It is 106 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: crazy that we might not see a head role yet. 107 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: And it's funny I think that we always said that, 108 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 2: like you're not going to fire Eric shav Is when 109 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: your team still is one of the best records national 110 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 2: league and your off it's still in the top third 111 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: of the league. Now those things have both changed. We're 112 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 2: now like pushing back towards the wildcard race. I'm so 113 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: relieved he won that Sunday game against the Reds or 114 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: else they'd be even two games closer to us right now, 115 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 2: which would really be changing things. And also the offense 116 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: has gone from like the sixth to seventh ranked offense 117 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: overall in the league for the season, down like four 118 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,799 Speaker 2: key word for down, to like the fifteenth ranked offense 119 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: this season just based on runs per game I think 120 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: so twelfth overall, thirteenth overall ops. So again that's not 121 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 2: like alarm bells for an offense, but for this offense 122 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 2: was supposed to be and the offenser shouldn't could be. 123 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: That's alarming. And if some more things happen about Eric 124 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: Shavis social media, I think that could actually wind up 125 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:33,559 Speaker 2: being the nail on the coffin. 126 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there may be a burner out there that 127 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: has been floated around. I'll be honest, I'm gonna get 128 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: ahead of that one. I don't think that the burner 129 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: that's being u pushed out on Twitter right now is 130 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: necessarily his burner. I think that that account is just 131 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: kind of almost feeding into it. And I do think 132 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: that the language used on that count's pretty unacceptable, and 133 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: I just I don't see Eric Shavas doing that. I 134 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: don't think he's a bad person. That account feels like 135 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: a bad person thing. That being said, there is an 136 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: Eric Shavas Twitter account. It's it's public. I've found it. 137 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: I've seen it just as he's tweeted. It's his name 138 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: and numbers. You guys can find it if you look 139 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: hard enough, he replies to Only Eric Shavez tweets specifically 140 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: at certain people in the Mets community. It's him. Like, 141 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: there's no doubt my mind, I know what Eric Shavis' 142 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: Twitter is. The burner that's being perpetuated right now. I 143 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: don't truly believe it is. Again, that would be a 144 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: garbage person type thing, and I don't think that's him. 145 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: So I really hope that doesn't run rampant, but it 146 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: is weird that he is pretty active on social media 147 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: hating his haters as much as he is for a 148 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: guy who I think is very much on the hot seat, 149 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: or at least should be on the hot. 150 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: Seat, at least relatively on the hot seat compared to 151 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 2: where he definitely was even like two wish weeks ago. 152 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the next voicemail going, Oh, you want me 153 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: to pull the next voicemail. Okay, No, that's honestly, you're right, 154 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: that's how we've done in the past, and that's on 155 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: me hand up, not not locked in, all right. Shout 156 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: out to our girl, Emily, one of the few women 157 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: that do listen to this podcast. Let's see what Emily 158 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: has got to say. 159 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 4: Hey, Mark and James, maybe this team just stinks. I 160 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 4: am not. You gotta believing right now. Don't even really 161 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 4: want to see Alonso tie Strawberry right now because it 162 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 4: would just feel so in this situation. Anyways, Thanks for 163 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,679 Speaker 4: all you do, Murphy. Interview was great. 164 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: By thanks, I mean she's right. Well, we were at 165 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: the game and we were like, man, we taught Ao 166 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: Alonso tying Darryl Strawberry in the ninth inning when they're 167 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: getting no hit or I guess at that moment one hit, 168 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: We're like, this is going to really be like the 169 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: latest way ever that he would tie this record. 170 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: And there was a conversation going on Twitter led by 171 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: Everyone's Safe for Report, the Andy Martine where he said, 172 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: like how the Mets fans actually feel about Pilanzo tying 173 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: the record, Like doesn't mean a lot to you, doesn't 174 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: mean a little too, Like where does it put you? 175 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: And I think most Mets fans would like it's like 176 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: kind of cool, like it is, but it's just like 177 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: the way the team's playing right now, I think would 178 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: overshadow what is setting a cool franchise record, while also 179 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: at the same time, like that is in terms of 180 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: records franchises could have. It's definitely not the most. 181 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: It's pretty unimpressive. 182 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: It's not unimpressive because it's still a lot of home 183 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 2: runs the guy's hit in seven years. The speed with 184 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: which with which Peter Lownso has done it is cool 185 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: because it's not for the COVID year. He's basically doing 186 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: this on still a rookie level deal, Like it's still 187 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: the first like six complete seasons of his career, having 188 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty home runs in six years. That's sick. 189 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: That's impressive. Last part's impressive, And I do one record 190 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: wise not impressed. 191 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 2: That's the part that's not impressive. Yeah, if if even 192 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: just like the conversation of like, fastest guys in the 193 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: Major league history tutor fifty home runs games wise, that's 194 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 2: pretty cool part of it. But I do think that 195 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: it would really kind of dramatically be overshadowed right now 196 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: by how badly this team is hitting, playing all those things. 197 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: You kind of can't break that record when you're getting 198 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: absolutely embarrassed by a team that's actively not trying to 199 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: win baseball games. 200 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: Actively trying to win half their baseball games. 201 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: That's fair, actively trying to be a five hundred team 202 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: and be good enough to basically still be professional. 203 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got the next voice while coming here from 204 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: our boy Tom. Here comes Thomas's voicemail, a two part 205 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 2: of their fourteen second and a seventeen seconds So I 206 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, And there's also this was sent minutes 207 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 2: after you posted the story as well, So this is 208 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 2: a two forty four PM voicemail. 209 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: Emily came in at two forty one incredible and. 210 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: We got the jury three thirty. You guys are on 211 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 2: this one, but here comes Thomas. 212 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 5: This team is pathetic, there's no life, nobody cares. Why 213 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 5: is Thereic Tramas still have a job? 214 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: Why? 215 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: Who? 216 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 5: Why are we employing him? 217 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: Why? 218 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 5: That's all I have to say is why? 219 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 2: And one more? 220 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 5: Do you know what? 221 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 2: Shout out Gavin Williams. 222 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: That's it. Wait, shout out Gavin Williams. 223 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 6: Looked like the greatest pitcher ever of Fuck Eric Chavez, 224 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 6: Fuck everybody. 225 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 5: Fuck this team. 226 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 6: They're lifeless, they don't give a shit, and I'm tired 227 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 6: of watching. 228 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 2: I was fully in that staining in rooting for at 229 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: Williams complete to No Hither. I'd never seen a nine 230 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: inning no hither from a pitcher live. I saw the 231 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: Mets team No Hither twenty twenty two, which was cool, 232 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 2: mostly because the Mets don't have many of those. But 233 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: seeing a pitcher throwing No Hither and him walking out 234 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 2: of the dugout with like one hundred tent pitches his 235 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: ninth was kind of a sick moment, and it would 236 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: have been nice to maximize the embarrassment with this team, 237 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: like you get no hit at home by a pitcher 238 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: with a one point four whip heading into the game, unseasoned, 239 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 2: and it's just it's too many people know too much better. 240 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 2: Cholds this point, like he's too much of a conversation 241 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: for this to still be a thing. And I do 242 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: think that's almost He's almost like a distraction at this point. 243 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: I feel like. 244 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: It's almost like he he is, I think, and it 245 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: might become rifle, might become wrongful, becoming escapegoat though for 246 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: the fact that a lot of these players have just 247 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 2: not stepped up in a really significant way this year, 248 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: Like we're getting pretty objectively not like a bad season 249 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: of out of Francisco Lindor. We've had two terrible months 250 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 2: out of Pee Alonso, We've had two bad months out 251 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 2: of brand Nemo, Like six eight really good weeks at 252 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 2: Brandimo and then two now three more bad, really bad 253 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: weeks of Brandim. Jeff McNeil was really hot for two 254 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 2: months and he's been called for by the month. It's 255 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: just such an absolute roller coaster up and down. There 256 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 2: was a stat going around Twitter on Tuesday night that 257 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: no hitter on the Mess has a seven hundred ops 258 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 2: over the last month to play zero hitters Jeff McNeil 259 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 2: had the seven hundred going into play on Wednesday, didn't 260 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 2: get any hits. He'd now dropped under, there's not one 261 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 2: player in the mess with seven seven hundred ops over 262 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 2: a month. You can never win like that. 263 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: Now, of course, we do not know what the conversations 264 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: are being had. We don't know if there are adjustments 265 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: being made, and I would like to think there are. 266 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 2: Well, did you see carsls me does quotes after the game? 267 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: No, what are you saying? 268 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: He said that we're recognizing. I'll get you to the 269 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 2: exact quotes right now because it kind of opened the door, 270 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 2: I think. At the same time, and Doze was giving 271 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 2: some flack to both the positional coaches and the players, 272 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: while then also walking back a tiny bitten saying the 273 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: coaches are doing a great job. It's just not being 274 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: communicated well enough something like that. But this quote did's 275 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: a problem, But this quote did make the rounds. I'm 276 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 2: scrolling and try and get it okay. He Carls. Mendoza 277 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 2: says the mess of the Mets have lacked conviction at 278 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 2: times while as to play, and he wants to see 279 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 2: them trust in their abilities and their plan more. And 280 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 2: then He said the players have struggled to make in 281 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 2: game adjustments, and someone asked why that's the case. He said, 282 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: our coaches are working really hard, they continue to have 283 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: those discussions with the players, but we still got to 284 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: do it. 285 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go I'm gonna take what he said, 286 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna kind of fire back at you a 287 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: little bit here and see what you have to say 288 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: about this. We've had Trevor May on the podcast before 289 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 1: and one of the things that he lauded Jeremy Hefner 290 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,599 Speaker 1: for so much about his job and his position, was 291 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: that Jeremy Hefner is excellent at taking information and basically 292 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: giving it out to the players and making it understandable, 293 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: making it attainable, and understanding what the game plan is 294 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: and how to execute and what the Mets players need 295 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: to do what they're looking to do. Is there not 296 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: some fault on the coaches. I understand the players need 297 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: to execute. This is not me completely escapegoating Eric Chavez 298 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: because the players still need to perform at the end 299 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: of the day. The coaches can only do so much. 300 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: But if everybody on this roster is having the same issues, 301 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: because it is, it's in everybody. We got stats with 302 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: this team without Juan Soto, and they are shocking, and 303 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: I will read them to you maybe in a little 304 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: bit here, But at some point, maybe the way that 305 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: Eric Schavez and or Jeremy Barnes disseminate this information give 306 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: out what the plan is supposed to be is not working. 307 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: Maybe it's become dull, maybe it doesn't stick. Maybe they're 308 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: bad at it. There's a possibility that they are legitimately 309 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: bad at their job. That feels to me like there's 310 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: a problem that there is. There's this major disconnect that 311 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 1: the manager of this organization, this roster is feeling as well. 312 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: He's going the coaches are working hard, the players are 313 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: not understanding it. Do you blame the players? Do you 314 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: blame the coaches. It's probably a little bit of both, 315 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: And to be honest, I tend to lean to blame 316 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: them the coaches then, because they're not doing enough to 317 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: make the players actually understand what. 318 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: Needs to be done. The part of that that's weird 319 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: for me is that these were the same coaches last 320 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 2: year with most of the same players. So say, how 321 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 2: how was there more of a disconnect this time around? 322 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 2: Last time in around. 323 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: Hot take Jad Martinez. 324 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,239 Speaker 2: He think he was like the middleman, like with jam Martinez, 325 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 2: like it might be because like was he the de 326 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: facto quality assurance coach. 327 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: Now I'll say this, like Jady Martin was pretty horrible 328 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: last year. I think I think we all know that, 329 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: Like he went through a stretch where he was unplayable, 330 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: but there was something that happened offensively, There was a 331 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: second gear that this team hit when he started hanging around. 332 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: We saw it with Vientos, we saw with a bunch 333 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: of players. There was a different approach to the plate. 334 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: And Jad Martinez, for all intensive purposes, has been a 335 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: very very cerebral hitter throughout his career. He was a 336 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: guy who was a very very early adapter of like 337 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: watching video during games, acknowledging what's going on as bats, 338 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: like maybe at times to a fault that can probably 339 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: be a little at times low crippling, hyper analyzing every 340 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: single thing that's going on. But also maybe that was 341 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: part of it. Maybe there again, there was a disconnect 342 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: between the coaching staff on the hitting side and the players, 343 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: and Jady Martinez was able to help bridge that gap. 344 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: That's probably also giving him away too much. 345 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 2: Gret totally, but I actually think there is something to 346 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: that because the Mets don't have a quality control coach 347 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: on their staff. They do have a separate strategy coach, 348 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 2: which is Danny Barnes, but Danny Barnes was a reliever, 349 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: so I don't know how involved people do with some 350 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: of this hitting stuff. And then they do with two 351 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: hitting coaches and Eric Chavez and Jeremy Barnes, and then 352 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: they also had, yeah, the strategy coach and Danny Barnes, 353 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: So there could be something to this where Jad Martinez 354 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: could have been the facto translated, because I do think 355 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: this is a big thing that a lot of these 356 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: major league coaching staffs lack because there's so much advanced 357 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 2: information just being disseminated like day after day and moment 358 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: after a moment. We talked about it with Murphy when 359 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: we talked to him a few weeks ago, about how 360 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: much information did you like in game versus out of 361 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 2: the game. Where was your preference, where was your reaction? 362 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: He basically said, in the game, I'm in the game. 363 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: We definitely know that's not true of all players. I 364 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: think there are a lot of guys who probably do 365 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 2: want to be looking at these things in games. So 366 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: perhaps that there was a bit of a communication bridge 367 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: that Jad Martinez was kind of holding a lot of 368 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: weight inside of that now is gone. I'm not advocating 369 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: for Jada mar team who've been put up back on 370 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: this team or anything like that. I'm just saying that 371 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 2: that is while a lot of these things, a lot 372 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 2: of the same processes were in place last year, that 373 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 2: is one thing that's defiantly different right now. 374 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, And maybe maybe that's the difference. Maybe there is 375 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: an issue with how to communicate these things. I mean, shit, 376 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: we've heard Francisco Indoor publicly say to reporters that he 377 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: called out Chavez last year for not doing his job, 378 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: and at the moment, at the moment when we saw that, 379 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: we were like, huh, that feels that feels like a problem, right. 380 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: I Mean, sometimes maybe it's right in front of your 381 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: face and it's so fucking obvious you can't see it. 382 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: There also have been a few instances this year. We 383 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: never know what's going on in somebody's personal life for 384 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: what's actually is that is the deal happening with some 385 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: of these coaches and their staff and how often they're 386 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: supposed to be in the building and out of the building. 387 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: But Eric Chavas sometimes isn't with the team, and again 388 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 2: we don't know exactly why. We know he has youngersh kids. 389 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: We know he does have a house in Arizona, so 390 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: if the Mexico in the West there having some days 391 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: where he's been there, so it's like it's it's we 392 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: don't know exactly how these coaching staffs were socially having 393 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: two hitting coaches, because you know the famous saying you 394 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: have two hitting coaches, you really have none. There could 395 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 2: be a situation why that is happening right now, but 396 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: it is a strange coaching alignment from the get go, 397 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 2: and a lot of that did happen from the fact 398 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,959 Speaker 2: that we kind of bumped Javas around the last few 399 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 2: years hitting coach, bench coach back to hitting coach. It's 400 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 2: something that most other teams have not done. Situations like 401 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 2: this last few years take away what we think about 402 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: him currently in the moment as what he is as 403 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 2: a hitting coach. Like Jeremy Hefner is the exception, because 404 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 2: he is highly lauded amongst every baseball person in the world, 405 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 2: stand out, standout, phenomenal coach like the best pitching coach 406 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 2: arguably in baseball. Never have heard those same things about 407 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: Jeremy Barnes and Eric Chavez. But they're from the old regime, 408 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 2: and the fact that they're still here is weird. They're 409 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: like the only people from that old regime that have 410 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 2: still stuck around. And it doesn't it doesn't make sense 411 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 2: to me. 412 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,239 Speaker 7: AHM on my phone right now in Arena Club and 413 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 7: I'm looking at the Emerald slab packs and I see 414 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 7: in the grail a Bobby Witt Junior twenty twenty Bowman 415 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 7: Chrome Prospect Auto Gold Refractor card. 416 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 2: Give me that, Give me your phone. 417 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna get you. 418 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 7: Well, you gotta buy it to me. 419 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: I don't have it. 420 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 7: You know you have to get a slab pack. 421 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: No, I don't have that, And give me. 422 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 5: Your slap pack. 423 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 6: That card's worth you buy slap pack, Scott, so I 424 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 6: can get the Bobby with Junior Gold Refractor twenty twenty 425 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 6: Bowman Chrome Auto because that sounds. 426 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 7: Awesome and it's worth a lot. 427 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 2: It's worth a lot. 428 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: He's a stud. 429 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: He's not going down. Get a grill. Get a grill. 430 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: I want a grils. 431 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: God give me the Holy grill you do it. 432 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 7: To do that, you must get yourself a slab pack 433 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 7: in Arena Club or if you want to get it 434 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 7: for a friend, you can do that too. And right 435 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 7: now you can get twenty percent off your first slab 436 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 7: pack or your first card purchase if you're going on 437 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 7: there and you're just like, hey, I want a specific card. 438 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 7: I find it there. I want to grab it for 439 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 7: my showroom Arena Club dot com slash foul and use 440 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 7: the code f O U L. 441 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: But we'll talk about it more here. I've got another 442 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: message here coming in from a Los. Let's see what 443 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: he's got to say. 444 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 2: MA loose. 445 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,239 Speaker 1: From the that we're all in hell. 446 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 2: Yeah's Carlos this. 447 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 5: Time for going go ahead and fire Eric Chavez. If 448 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 5: the entire team cannot put. 449 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 7: The bats to the ball, there's a problem. 450 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: Okay, I think it's time for me to drop my stats. 451 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 2: Are you ready? The stats are here. I was waiting 452 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 2: for someone to specifically call that one. So because I 453 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 2: thought we were going to get that. 454 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: I don't. 455 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 2: I don't don't. 456 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you. I think the people that listen 457 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: to this podcast are way too smart to do something 458 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: like that. So me and James while we're at the game. 459 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: I looked him and I said, and I know, I 460 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: know me and him, Me and James specifically have argued 461 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: back and forth on what's going on with this team offensively, 462 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: but we're we're friends. This is all in good fun, 463 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: this is good content. And I looked at James and 464 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: I go, I think, if we take Juan Soto out 465 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: of the equation, these numbers are gonna fall off a cliff. 466 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: And me and James took Wan So out of the equation, 467 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,959 Speaker 1: and the numbers fall off a cliff so quickly. 468 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 2: I want to tell you, guys, the Mets stats still 469 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 2: across the league just offensively as a team. We alluded 470 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 2: to them before, but in terms of just a stat 471 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 2: that Mark and I think our favorite one to just 472 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 2: completely just assume offense. Ops. The Mets are still twelfth 473 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 2: in the league. They might be thirteenth behind the Brewers 474 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: because it was seven twenty five for a seven to 475 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 2: twenty four that was going into play on Wednesday. Mets 476 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 2: a thirteenth in runs per game. The Mets aren't fourth 477 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 2: in walk grate actually, and the Mets are where I said, 478 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 2: thirteenth in on base percentage. Now probably not now thirteenth 479 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 2: on base percentage, so it's still again objectively and weighted 480 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: runs created plus WSC plus ninth, So in terms of 481 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 2: all of the still fulham alcamation of offensive stats for 482 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 2: the whole season, the Mets are still objectively speaking, don't 483 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: crash your car, do not yell at me, do not 484 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 2: go and Twitter and curse me out. A top ten 485 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: offense in baseball, which again you don't like the fact 486 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 2: that this isn't one of like the five best offensive 487 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 2: baseball because you think it was built to be that. 488 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 2: But you could still be like, it's a top third 489 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 2: offensive baseball. That's an offense that should no matter what, 490 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 2: but at least a competent pitching staff, which I'm so 491 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 2: happy no one's brought out the pitching staff because I 492 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 2: worried about people getting mad about the pitching staff because 493 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 2: slid not the problem. Should be able to drag you 494 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 2: to the playoffs no matter what. 495 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: But now that's because Wan Soto is in the lineup. 496 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: I think could be one of the more underrated players 497 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: in baseball because when you hear the difference in the 498 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: numbers of what this Mets team looks like with Juan 499 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: Soto and without Wan Soto, it is staggering. The Mets 500 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: simply are one of the worst offensive teams in Major 501 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: League Baseball if you take Jan Soto out of the lineup, 502 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: and I understand that's not what they are stupid conversation. 503 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: This is like theoretically, it is a stupid conversation, but 504 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: I do think it magnifies what's actually going wrong with 505 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: this team. And a big reason is the Mets do 506 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: not get on base. And I think part of the 507 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,959 Speaker 1: reason why runners of scoring position problem feels so magnified 508 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: is because they actually don't get on base very often. 509 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: So without WANs in this lineup, the Mets on base 510 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: percentage for the season is three toh nine. With Wan 511 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: Soda in the lineup, the Mets on base percentage is 512 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 1: three to nineteen. That is a ten point drop. If 513 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: you look at the major league averages right now, that 514 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: would put the Mets hard at number twenty three in 515 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball or twenty two, twenty two, twenty three, 516 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: wherever that is going to be. That is that of 517 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: the Orioles, Angels, Pirates, Guardians, Rangers, Royals, White Sox, and Rockies. 518 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 1: You're gonna hear those names again, because that is pretty 519 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 1: much the only teams in Major League Baseball the Mets 520 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: are better than offensively, without considering Juan Soto, it is. 521 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: It is staggering. You go to the slugging Mets slugging 522 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: percent just three ninety eight, that puts them in the 523 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: middle of the pack, still in Major League Baseball. But 524 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: that drops him a bunch, that drops him almost nine 525 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 1: points or something like that for the season. And then 526 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: where it gets really shocking, the biggest one they still 527 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: hit the ball hard, still hit the ball hard. Shout 528 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: out James loves heart hit rate, heart hit rate. Everyone 529 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: should love heart hit rate. But the staggering one is 530 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: when you look at barrel ray and this would explain 531 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: why the Mets are having so many issues getting runs, 532 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: extra base hits, scoring runs. The barrels are what you 533 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: should be chasing in baseball. If you're not trying to 534 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: hit barrels, I don't know what you're trying to do. 535 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: That's why Luis Ryce stinks. Nobody cares about it. 536 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 2: And just to tell you, guys, a barrel when we 537 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 2: talk about barrel ray, that's when you hit a ball 538 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 2: that has to have at least a ninety mile ninver 539 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: x of lastly, so a little a tiny bit higher 540 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 2: for threshold than a hard hit ball and has to 541 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 2: be struck between a twenty second and thirty degree launch angle. 542 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: And you can keep getting barrels as you get a 543 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 2: higher launch angle, but they have to then be hit 544 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 2: in like in proportion harder hit with the higher launch angle. 545 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 2: So it's basically bad at balls that are better, for 546 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 2: lack of a better term, smacked. 547 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna blow your guys mind. With Wands in the lineup. 548 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: The Mets are the third highest team in terms of 549 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: barrel rate this season ten point four percent. That is 550 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: the third highest, only behind the Yankees and Angels, which 551 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: the Angels only hit home runs, and the Yankees have 552 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: Aaron drugs, which is crazy, So think about that for 553 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: a second. Without wand Soto, this team's barrel rate is 554 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: six point six percent. That is the second worst in 555 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,959 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball. The only team worst is weirdly, the 556 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: Milwaukee Brewers. But they don't play baseball the same way 557 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: that anyone else in baseball does. They're weird, they're bizarre. 558 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: They break how this game is played, They play fast, 559 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: they play different. So what I'm hearing is that this 560 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: Mets team, outside of Juan Soto, makes the second worst 561 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: quality of contact in the entire league. So fire Eric 562 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: Shavs and Jeremy Barnes. 563 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 2: It's also just his star reminder of what this season 564 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 2: could have looked like if we did not sign Wan 565 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 2: Solo like we we would be probably right now five 566 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 2: ten games on their five hundred. We'd be kind of 567 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 2: toiling around. 568 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 1: With the Braves. 569 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 2: We might be we might be a couple of games 570 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 2: worse than the Marlins right now if we weren't able 571 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 2: to And there's a lot of I mean, I was 572 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: expecting a few anti Solo voicemails because there's just been 573 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 2: so much of this on Twitter last few days, and 574 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 2: I think that it's it's easy to forget how good 575 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 2: and how much he is able to change this lineup, 576 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 2: even while he's not having the best season of his career, 577 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 2: because there has been a massive level of just simple 578 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 2: regression from every other guy in this team. I said, 579 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 2: looking deeply the numbers, that I was scared about Francisco 580 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: Lindor back towards the end of May. I didn't realize 581 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 2: he'd also break his toe after that. And then when 582 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 2: you add those things together, one him getting a little 583 00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 2: bit older, and two playing whole season with a broken 584 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 2: So he's been actually just bad for about two for 585 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 2: literally two exact straight months, going two exact months. Because 586 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 2: Francisco Indor hit the foul ball off his tone of 587 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 2: fracture than in June fourth, we're looking at a two 588 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 2: to ten batting average of two seventy on base and 589 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 2: a three sixty sluck. So that is terrible. That's twenty 590 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 2: percent worse than league average. That's untenably bad. And the 591 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: worst part is that before that foul ball off his toe, 592 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 2: he was two eighty four three fifty six, four to 593 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 2: ninety eight. That was an eight to fifty ops forty 594 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 2: percent better than league gaverage. He was pacing for a 595 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 2: great season. But at the same time he was pacing 596 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 2: for that. The fear was the dropping the bat speed, 597 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 2: not pulling his fly balls as much. There was some 598 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 2: chinks in the arm or and now with the injury, 599 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 2: we've seen that. And then if you just look at 600 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 2: this Mets team says that Francisco and Lindor broke in 601 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 2: toe happened, and again we don't want to you can't 602 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 2: really blame one player same way that we're talking about 603 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 2: how much want So has elevated this offense. We can't 604 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: just say Francisco Indor isn't up to his MVP level standards. 605 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: We saw last season that this team should just suck. 606 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 2: But since he broke that toe, this Mets team is 607 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 2: twenty four and twenty nine June fourth, and that with 608 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 2: two different six game win streaks, actually one seven game 609 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 2: win streaks, So thirteen of the twenty four wins that 610 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 2: we've had since June fourth happened within one week of 611 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 2: time each. So there's been besides two good weeks of baseball, 612 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 2: nine straight weeks of bad baseball since fan Francisco and 613 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 2: Door foul ball off his toe. And it's not an 614 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 2: excuse for the rest of the players of this team. 615 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 2: Plans has been nice cold since then as well. Brandon 616 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 2: Nimmo's been streaky, Jef McNeil, what's hot went cold, Baity's 617 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 2: been streaking, Marisio kind of just has these pop off 618 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 2: games and goes crazy. Viento's has been absent until the 619 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: last week, but still doesn't really feel like he's really 620 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 2: clicked back in all the way. Alvarez. We know what's 621 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 2: going on with Alvaz this year, like it's it's a 622 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 2: lot on all the other players. The whole point of 623 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 2: a team is that someone struggling and you should step up. 624 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 2: But I really look back at that moment, Lindor breaking 625 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 2: his toe, not going down the injured list when it happened, 626 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 2: and that probably still dealing with nag and effects that 627 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 2: all season, while dealing with regular regression, and it just 628 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 2: looks it just looks bad overall. 629 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: No, it's a it's an absolute fucking mess like this, 630 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: This offense is a mess. And I again you mentioned 631 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: I'm glad we're not getting any pitching voicemails yet we might, 632 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: we might get some, and I honestly I'm gonna bet 633 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: that we at least get one. But it is so 634 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: not the problem of this team right now. The Mets 635 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: address the bullpen. Bullpen's good. The starting pitching, we would 636 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: love to see them go deeper. They don't have to 637 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: go deeper if necessarily. This bullpen is much better. We 638 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: have read Garrett pitching the sixth inning now, like that's 639 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: such a huge relief. Loss is our eighth inning guy, 640 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: and losses he's pitching in the sixth inning. The number 641 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: one problem and the overarching problem of this entire team 642 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: has been that nobody besides Juan Soto and Pete Alonso 643 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,719 Speaker 1: for a little bit, have been able to do almost 644 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: anything at the plate this year. And that is why 645 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: the Mets continue to lose games. And until something changes, 646 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: the Mets will continue to lose games. This is not sustainable. Again, 647 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: the teams that I'm mentioning that the Mets are better 648 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: than offensively right now are the worst teams in baseball. 649 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: You want to know why the Orioles suck this year. 650 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: They have bad pitching and they can't fucking hit. You 651 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: want to know what the Pirates think because they can't hit. 652 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: The Guardians think because they can't hit. You look at 653 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: every every single team that the Mets are better than offensively, 654 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: they all stink because they cannot hit. And at the 655 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: end of the day, if we don't score more runs 656 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: than the team you're playing against, you will never win 657 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: a baseball game. And the Mets are not giving themselves 658 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: that opportunity. 659 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 2: No, And you go, you have a series like this 660 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 2: against the Guardians where I know we're not actually specifically 661 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 2: talking about the series because I don't think you guys 662 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 2: want to hear about it, and I don't want to 663 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 2: talk about it. Where you give up four runs, you 664 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 2: give up three runs, and then you give up five 665 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 2: runs in regular time and then two runs with the 666 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 2: bullshit extra inning rules. So it's like those are just 667 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 2: based on the runs you gave up very winnable games. 668 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: You lost the game on Friday, you gave up four 669 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 2: runs one of those game in extra innings, Padres gave 670 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 2: up seven runs, and two games he gave up five runs. Okay, whatever, 671 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 2: It's just you have opportunities to win these games. It's 672 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 2: the fact that this can't be a league average offense 673 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: right now is the reason you continue to lose them. 674 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: And that's with one so O their league average. Yeah, 675 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: everybody else with signs one so lucky. We have one 676 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: so though. 677 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 2: But it was just highlighting the fact of what the 678 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 2: floor could have looked like without him. 679 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: And then my last thing I'll mentioned here before we 680 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: get going on to a next voicemail, because of how 681 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: bad everyone else has been. Juan Soto's production that he's 682 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: been with getting on base, with hitting the ball harder, 683 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: doing that stuff, it means nothing because nobody else can 684 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: do anything else. 685 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 2: And like you said, to start this whole diatribe. It 686 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 2: exasperates the I think I keep using that word wrong. 687 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 2: But whatever, it makes the risk problem look a lot 688 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 2: worse because we have few opportunities relatively to get those 689 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 2: runs home. We have few when you have fewer chances, 690 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 2: and you still fail them to get magnified. 691 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: And those guys who come up, including Juan Soto, aren't 692 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: hitting it or aren't getting them done either. Because most 693 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: of these guys are not hitting well with our runners 694 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: in scoring position. I think that's the other conversation they're 695 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: not That's my whole. 696 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: Conversation that was involve the point that made this podcast 697 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: all season not hitting. 698 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: They're the entire team's not hitting. 699 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 2: There we go, we got you. We finally got back 700 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 2: to it, all right, Next one coming Kyle McDonald. Another 701 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 2: quick one at two forty eight, with then an update 702 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 2: at three fifty seven. So again, so quick voicemails from 703 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: the people here. 704 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 5: I'm gonna keep this short and sweet because. 705 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 8: I mat work right now. 706 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 9: But if you're getting no hit through six and I 707 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 9: only got one, you're saying is. 708 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 5: The guy stinks. 709 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 9: Get him out of here and bring up in triple 710 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 9: A and and coach pick salvs a swing in the 711 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 9: earlier week and keep faith. Boys, it's gonna be a 712 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 9: tough end of stretch. 713 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 2: And we got the update an hour later. 714 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: I know what I want to talk about. 715 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 10: Though, all right, got swept by the Guardians Bats, all right, 716 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 10: because I don't know if you guys remember the last 717 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 10: time that's got almost no hit. 718 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: JD. 719 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 10: Martinez hit a home run in the ninth inning and 720 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 10: then Met's went on to run. 721 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 2: That was the game versus the Marlins last year. 722 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 10: So big run coming, tough schedule ahead, Let's go Mats. 723 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,719 Speaker 5: Love the podcast boys, keep it up. 724 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: Thank you Colin. It is shockingly, shockingly positive at the end. 725 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: I didn't think that was coming. 726 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 2: Actually, I do think I want to take that moment 727 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 2: because while we've just been spewing hate and vitriol's whole episode, 728 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 2: I think we're gonna get a lot more fire shot 729 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 2: as fire shot as fire shavas. Yeah, even after the 730 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 2: Mets almost got no hit in that game, I think 731 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 2: I think it was also the Braves, not the Marlins. 732 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 2: Last year. We should have gotten no hit in a 733 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 2: game that you guys probably remember very fondly against the 734 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 2: Blue Jays. Remember that one that was the day game 735 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 2: against Bowden Francis that we really should have gotten no hit, 736 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 2: but then Francisc glendor broke up the no hitter with 737 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 2: the home run of the ninth inning. Oddly enough, for 738 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 2: almost even around that point in the season. Actually, we're 739 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 2: even before that point in the season. That was last September. 740 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 2: That was after a big win streak when we were 741 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 2: still kind of teethering. Even if you go back exactly 742 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,479 Speaker 2: a year to the day right now we were having that. 743 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 2: We just had that one game makeup in Saint Louis 744 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 2: that we won with seanm and Ia pitch and we 745 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 2: went to Colorado won two out of three. That was 746 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 2: before the horrible series in Seattle against the managers were 747 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 2: basically shut out for three straight games, and then that 748 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 2: that clobbering, that nine run clobbering. We were hanging out 749 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 2: with early Ernie and Drew and Christina Carlos that that 750 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 2: Tuesday night against the A's at the time of the 751 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 2: Oakland A So again we're still a week clear of that, 752 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 2: which still felt like a rock bottom even after the 753 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 2: great run of last year. So it is easy to 754 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 2: forget how much time is left in the season. We 755 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 2: still have almost two full months of the regular season, 756 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 2: which is nuts. We have as much time right now 757 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 2: left in the regular season as we have from now 758 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: going back to like a week before Memorial. 759 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: Day or like the COVID season, then yeah. 760 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 2: We basically have a COVID. We almost have a full 761 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 2: COVID season left. Just a reminded of Dodgers fans out there. 762 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 2: I'll fake that championship. But so this, I don't want 763 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 2: to be like we are doing gloom right now. This 764 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 2: team looks like fucking raging dog shit. I'm not gonna 765 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 2: sugar go with that for you. But it's not the 766 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 2: end of the world. You can see the light at 767 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 2: the end, you like, you could look like we can 768 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: see the end of the world. We can see where 769 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,479 Speaker 2: it falls off the cliff. But there is still legitimate 770 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 2: amount of time where if there's anything good that happens, 771 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 2: two good games, I'm suddenly back. 772 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the Mets take the series and the Brewers 773 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: and the title of the YouTube videos gonna be the 774 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: Mets are so back, Like, I know exactly what's gonna happen. 775 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: I know what it's gonna be. That being said, I 776 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: do want to have a bigger conversation about Francis Squabaz here, 777 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: He's looked awesome. He's one of the few guys that 778 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: has looked awesome, especially since it's been called back up. 779 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: Does does that not feel weird that it took him 780 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: going down to hit in triple A and. 781 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 2: Working with JP Air and Sebia? 782 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: Do you think he was so defiant of Eric Schavs 783 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: and Jeremy Barnes or do you think those guys were 784 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: not even trying to make changes? 785 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 5: Like what? 786 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: That that's weird right Optically, it's weird. 787 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 2: That is weird, And I'm just just to feed into 788 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 2: our narratives and everyone else's narratives. I'll agree with you 789 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 2: on the surface, but I also think in Alvarez this case, 790 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 2: it was such a weird problem he was having by 791 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 2: just and this leads in back to your approach thing 792 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 2: where he was kind of doing this thing where he 793 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 2: was trying to shorten up and trying to be a 794 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 2: different kind of hitter. I think the biggest thing with sports, baseball, life, coaching, 795 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 2: anything in general, you just gotta be yourself. Francisco Alvarez 796 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 2: was put on this earth to just take absolutely gargantuman 797 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 2: daddy hacks and try to send the ball into the 798 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 2: fifteenth row of the left field stance. That's it. That's 799 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 2: the only thing that fucking matters. That is, it's the 800 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 2: only thing that mattered, because I think a lot about 801 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: how we lost the game on Monday, which we'll rehash 802 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: that quickly for you guys, because you wanted to hear 803 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 2: about it because it was so top of mine in 804 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 2: the moment where in the ninth inning, after again Met's 805 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 2: made a great comeback a gray five r and comeback 806 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 2: in that game after Carlsmondoza seemingly just like I have 807 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 2: to get Sean and I threw six innings to Showman 808 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 2: and I had nothing in that sixth inning Threnada that 809 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 2: mile in our fastball hit a batther through a wild pitch, 810 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 2: was a fucking mess, No reason why I should have 811 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 2: been out there. 812 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: But make a great comeback fuel by Pete. If you 813 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 1: just had a big sack, fly what Twitter says, you 814 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: gotta go six innings? So but then again, great comeback, 815 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: we had great time, great comeback. 816 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,959 Speaker 2: Tyron Taylor's on to start the ninth inning or someone 817 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 2: or al for his gout on Drew walk Actually in 818 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 2: Tyron Taylors pitch running. We don't send Tyron Taylor and 819 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 2: he Steel's. 820 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: Just say I'm gonna say words, I'm so mad. 821 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 2: You guys know what happened for ciscole Indoor, who again 822 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 2: it's much Malian people should not him. He should have 823 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 2: had the walk off hit in that game. There was 824 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 2: a play where he put the double, didn't get all 825 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 2: the way to the corner. Nolan Jones threw the ball 826 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 2: into Weirdly, the coloff man Carlos Santana Mike Sarbaugh holds 827 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 2: up Tyron Taylor at their base. You can see in 828 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 2: the replay that looked like it could have been a 829 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 2: close play with perfect throws. It wasn't perfect throws. That's 830 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 2: hindside twenty twenty. Tyrone Taylor is still probably safe. You 831 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 2: send him, But the logic of the move before I 832 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 2: let Mark spew the hate out of his mouth, it 833 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 2: makes sense because you're like, all right, Pete Alonso's up, 834 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 2: He's already four for four in this game. We need 835 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 2: a fly ball to win the game. And Peter Alonzo 836 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 2: comes up and just shits his pants and. 837 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 1: He tries to hit opposite He's she's shortening up his swing. 838 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 2: He's just trying to make contact. He still can't touch 839 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 2: Kate Smith because he throws one hundred miles an hour 840 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 2: while striding like ninety percent of the way to the 841 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 2: play at The guy's a monster, and then he strikes 842 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 2: out to go to the extra innings and that's why 843 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 2: we wind up losing that game. Approach wise, that was 844 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 2: fucking horrific to get that situation and try to not 845 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 2: be yourself. I understand that you do want to shorten up, 846 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 2: as murphle likes to tell us, you want to play 847 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 2: catch with the center fielder, but you don't want to 848 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 2: really dramatically change the way you think about At best, generally, 849 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 2: you still want to think about the bat in the 850 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 2: situational sense that you want to win the game with 851 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 2: this moment. So that's not like take daddy hacks, do 852 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 2: all that play the situation, but it seemed like Pete 853 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 2: was thinking about trying to be something else in that 854 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 2: moment rather than again being himself. 855 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, the one strike swing, I looked at HM. He's 856 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: trying to go to the right field. You can see 857 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: it from in per you can tell that he's trying 858 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: to hit the ball to right field. That's not who 859 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: Pete Alonzo. 860 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 2: Is fly swing. That's the base hitswing. Yeah, it's situation. 861 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. And like earlier in the game when he hit 862 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: the home run, Remember I was telling you, I was like, 863 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: pull the baseball, pull the baseball. He pulled it. Home run. Shocker. 864 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: Petere A Lonzo hit home runs when he pulls the baseball. Shocker, 865 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: you hit more home runs when you pull the baseball. 866 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: The opposite field approach is almost what single Handley killed 867 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: estoc Preds his entire major league baseball career. He started 868 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: pulling the baseball strictly, and what do you know, he's 869 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: an All Star caliber third baseman. But the nonsense by 870 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: Mike Sarball was so disgustingly fucking stupid. It was brain 871 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: dead me and you were the only, like one of 872 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: the few people that had that pretty much the exact 873 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: same view, maybe even a little bit worse than Mike 874 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: star Ball. And it was so Nolan Jones crashed into 875 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 1: the wall dole. He spun. 876 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 2: He didn't crash in though he's playing. 877 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: He's fun. He spun double clutch the baseball. He's also 878 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: that to cue. You're looking forward the third base coach. 879 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 2: You see if that ball takes one bounce in the 880 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 2: corner or if the outfielder hits the wall. That's in 881 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 2: all the sense, these are the things. 882 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: But even the spin, though, is such a longer it's 883 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: it's a long thing like him going because he throws 884 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: with his right hand. Him going towards the wall, you know, 885 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: he has to spin and throw that is longer than 886 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: a left handed thrower would have to make from the 887 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: right field. Like that's one thing to consider. He then 888 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: spin throws, double clutches, throws it into Carlos Santana, who's taking 889 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 1: the cup. Because Brian Roki has such a noodle alarm, 890 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 1: carl Santana also still has a noodlelarm. Not a good 891 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: arm either, one of the worst than baseball like thirtieth 892 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: percentile makes a bad throw, Carlos Santana has to leap, catch, 893 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 1: bobble it to gather just the baseball Tyrone Taylor while 894 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 1: the ball's in the air is around third base and 895 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: Mike Sarball is giving him a hard stop stop stop. 896 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 1: He wasn't even deep down the line, star Ball. Star 897 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: Ball was standing almost even with third base, completely out 898 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: of position. As a coach, fucking horrible, horrible job, all 899 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: around by him. And the thing that pisses me off 900 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: the most is, while I totally agree with you philosophically, 901 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: Peter A, Lonzo has to get the job done too, right. 902 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: If you got two shots to get the run in 903 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,439 Speaker 1: from third base, I totally can buy that. But they 904 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 1: pinch ran for Francisco Alvarez with Tyrone Taylor. If you're 905 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: gonna pinch run with who is your fastest player on 906 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: the bench, and then you're not gonna push them, You're 907 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: not gonna try and make anything happen. Why did you 908 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 1: pinch run Francisco Alvarez was going first to third on 909 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: that play, so what they did was nothing different with 910 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: a much faster runner in That to me is just 911 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,240 Speaker 1: like fundamental fucking loser mentality. Nobody wants to be great, 912 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: and by nobody I mean Mike Sarbab but also this team. 913 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: Nobody wants to be great. There's just there's a lack 914 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 1: of wanting to take the game by the balls and 915 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: just fucking win. There's there's nothing, there's no juice, and 916 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: I that's why I agree with all the people who 917 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,280 Speaker 1: say that there's no sense of urgency with his team 918 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: and at the absolute worst, right, perfect throw, perfect play, 919 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,959 Speaker 1: Tyrone Taylor's out at home. Francisco Lindor is at third base. 920 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: You know he's making on the throw there. As soon 921 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: as see the throw, he's getting to third base. And 922 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 1: now I have Peede Alonzo up with a man on 923 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: third base again in a chance to win the baseball. 924 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 2: Game with two outs instead of one. 925 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: I mean, fucking put the ball in play then too again, 926 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: try it like get a hit. That's when Peter a 927 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: Lonzo could take a swing of trying to serve the 928 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: ball to right field, maybe just to put the ball 929 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 1: in play. But even then, be yourself when Peter a 930 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,800 Speaker 1: lons hits the ball hard and he pulls the baseball 931 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: he gets hits, I don't know why he thinks he 932 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 1: has to go to right field to get a fucking single. 933 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 2: No, but in that moment again, it would have been 934 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 2: like please just a fly balls. That was like some 935 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 2: of the worst discourse we've had this whole season, which 936 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 2: was the freeze, frame, shadow s and y incredible production 937 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 2: as they always do, showing that split screen, even just 938 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 2: in the moment without knowing what would happen after the 939 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 2: split screen of Tyrone Taylor running as the play was happening, 940 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 2: and it's such an awkward play on a baseball field 941 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 2: for a first basement to make that run out because 942 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 2: that no one does that besides teams who have guys 943 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 2: like Brian Rookie who have some of the worst arms 944 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 2: in the league, where you're running so much as the 945 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 2: first basement to get that far out to spin and 946 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 2: make that throw. Carlsontana also being a right handed thrower, 947 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 2: he was going to have to grab that and then 948 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 2: pivot his whole body, which is why he woul end 949 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 2: up dropping that baseball. Tyrone Taylor would have scored with 950 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 2: that throw, But again, that's all hindsight twenty twenty Monday 951 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 2: and won a quarterback. It is just it's frustrating to 952 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 2: look back and being like that was a moment that 953 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 2: could have been like a huge step in the right direction, 954 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 2: be like a race of five run deficit. You've leave 955 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 2: the ballpark feeling good. These next two games go completely differently. 956 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 1: Honestly, if that happens, you guys in the stadium would 957 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: have seen this, but on TV, I'm sure you didn't. 958 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 1: The Mets were out of the dugout and were like 959 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: jumping up and down couldn't believe that Tyrone Taylor wasn't 960 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: said like everybody, everybody in the fucking planet wanted him sent. 961 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: And for everyone who's like, you can't send him there, 962 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 1: you shouldn't have sent him. Congrats, Mets got a loss 963 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: because you decided to play like a little fucking loser 964 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: and not try and take a chance with the team 965 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: that again has struggled. His score it runs with runners 966 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: scoring position. If we want to bring it back to 967 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: my favorite conversation, they haven't droven any runs with guys 968 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 1: in running scoring position. What made you think they were 969 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 1: gonna do it? 970 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 5: Now? 971 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 2: Right now? We got to get back some voicemails because 972 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 2: we're forty minutes in and we have like fifty more 973 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 2: voicemails to get to. I don't think we're gonna get 974 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 2: to all of them, all right, so we're gonna keep 975 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 2: moving here. Then, Brandon, did you Brandon yet? 976 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: I was actually gonna I was gonna give him, give 977 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: him a little shine. So you want to play it 978 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: or me? 979 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 2: I got Brandon. Here comes next voicemail from Brandon, Hey, 980 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:02,800 Speaker 2: Mark and James. 981 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 11: Obviously we're all down, but I have no fucking answers anymore. 982 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 11: You know, you change the lineup, doesn't make a difference. 983 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 5: The Mets shit their. 984 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 11: Pigs when things go wrong. They don't know how to react. 985 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 5: It's when they go down they. 986 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 11: Forget how to play baseball. I have no idea, but 987 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 11: I'm with you, Chavis has to go. Their approach is 988 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 11: so bad. What do we do from here? You know, 989 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:30,240 Speaker 11: doc to score runs? 990 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 2: I'm over this. Sometimes it's just frustrating. 991 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 5: I was at the game Tuesday. It was pathetic. You know, 992 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 5: Monday night. 993 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 11: You know it could have been a great comeback. 994 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 2: Baty has to make a better play there, but you 995 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 2: have to get a hit with the bases loaded. 996 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:43,280 Speaker 8: Anyway. 997 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,320 Speaker 11: I hope you have a great. 998 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:45,760 Speaker 1: Day, James. 999 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,879 Speaker 11: By the way, I'm gluten free. 1000 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 5: Also, it sucks. 1001 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 2: Shout out Brandon Brandon. I feel like he had a 1002 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,439 Speaker 2: joker moment because he was always a very positive fan 1003 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 2: and now he's been I'd be like, I've been seeing 1004 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 2: him on Twitter now I'm on Instagram like he's getting mad, 1005 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 2: and I think that really echoes how a lot of 1006 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 2: these Mets fans are feeling. And the Tuesday game was awful. 1007 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 2: The fact that wet there was a point between it 1008 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 2: was the fifth inninge Tuesday or the fourth day, I 1009 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 2: can't remember exactly. And until the WANs so the home 1010 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 2: run on Wednesday, it's like twelve consecutive no hit innings 1011 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,240 Speaker 2: that doesn't even make sense, Like you know, the Guardian's 1012 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 2: bullpen's good, but like Kobe Allers strowing eighty nine mile 1013 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 2: an hour sinkers Like it's. 1014 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,320 Speaker 1: Like Kobe Colby allart sucks. 1015 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 2: I'm saying, I guess what I'm saying. There has to 1016 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 2: be a hit somewhere there mixed in. And it was 1017 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 2: so funny that I thought Carlos Modoe was a pull 1018 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 2: Clay Holmes the perfect time. I thought Clay Holmes had 1019 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 2: a good start, given what Clay Holmes is right now. 1020 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 2: We saw Clay Holmes last week look beleaguered, and that 1021 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 2: started against the Padres. In the first pitch of the game. 1022 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 2: The guy was gassed. He was dead. And I literally 1023 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 2: told you leaving the stadium on Monday, I was like, 1024 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 2: I guarantee you a good play homes starts tomorrow, and 1025 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 2: you're like, wow, I was like six five days rest 1026 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 2: pitching on the sixth day, I know he's going to 1027 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 2: have a good start. A lot of these Mets situations 1028 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 2: could be alleviated a bit, even though the starting pitching 1029 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 2: is like the ninth biggest problem right now, the tenth 1030 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 2: biggest problem, because the ninth problems first nine problems are 1031 00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 2: once they're nine batting order. But just these guys are 1032 00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 2: a lot better with that extra day of rest. So 1033 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 2: I think that is something that's funny to keep an 1034 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 2: eye on. As Brandon Sburd has some pitching really. 1035 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 1: Want to play, Yeah, if you want, if we want 1036 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: to talk about pitching, but we know the problem is hitting, 1037 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna jump to Joe Vasquez. There was like seven 1038 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: others that I'm gonna be honest, guys, like a minute 1039 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 1: forty five is tough. I don't I don't know if 1040 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 1: I can give you a minute forty five. I love 1041 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,800 Speaker 1: I love you guys sending messages, but I do prefer 1042 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: the ones are like twenty eight seconds. So i've I'm 1043 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 1: gonna give Joe a little shine. Here shout Joe Vsquez. 1044 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: Here we go so quiet, so quiet. I don't know 1045 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: what he's talking. I think I think, Okay, we lost Joe. Joe. Unfortunately, 1046 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 1: you talk crazy. 1047 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:35,839 Speaker 2: I think we lose Joe. I think we lost Joe 1048 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 2: over here. 1049 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say he sent me a text on 1050 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 1: the reply to the story says, bro I hate that 1051 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 1: this team plays with no fucking balls. It starts with 1052 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: Lindor every fucking play has a smile on his face. 1053 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 1: As the captain, he should be leading this team with 1054 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: some grit, some heart, some attitudes, some fucking balls. And 1055 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: I will say this, I told James, I'm gonna call 1056 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 1: it the indoor out. He has to be a leader. 1057 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 1: He has to be better. He's a guy who, for 1058 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: the longest time we know is not a raw, raw guy. 1059 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 1: And that's fine, not everybody is. He's been a lead 1060 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 1: by example, the example he's been playing with, whether there's 1061 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 1: injury concerns or not, he's he's been leading like shit. 1062 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 1: So he's got to play better. 1063 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you this. At the same time, he 1064 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 2: should have had the walk off hit on Monday, of course, Yeah, 1065 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,879 Speaker 2: well yeah, Mark, if Mike Sarball had yeah. 1066 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 1: So I'm saying, like Joe Masqus was talking about, because 1067 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 1: like even. 1068 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 2: When you were having these conversations, those conversations were pervasive 1069 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 2: on Twitter after the game on Monday, just because there 1070 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 2: was that play in the tenth where Baby on the 1071 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 2: sack bunt probably should have gone to first, but side 1072 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 2: to try and make the hero play and go the 1073 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 2: second still had the runner if he made a good throw. 1074 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,439 Speaker 2: Wasn't a great throw, It also wasn't a terrible throw. 1075 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 2: Looked like it clanked off Lindor's glove. Definitely catchable ball. 1076 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 2: That was the conversation. But he had to walk off hit, 1077 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 2: And I think that's the kind of thing where this 1078 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 2: comes back to, Like you mentioned, leaving the walk off 1079 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 2: hit was kind of taken away from you by the 1080 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 2: third base coach inadvertently. That plays into your mind the 1081 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 2: next inning. But you can't take you can't take a 1082 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 2: play like that into the field with You can't, especially 1083 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 2: when you're like a platinum glove glide like Francisco Londor is. 1084 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,839 Speaker 2: But I got the next one from Sam over here 1085 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 2: thirty six seconds from Sam Love that. 1086 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,800 Speaker 8: The podcast just wanted to ask, how long do you 1087 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 8: think this Met's team is going to go with being 1088 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,240 Speaker 8: this terrible at the play? Like at the beginning of season, 1089 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 8: they were getting it, They were getting a good deal 1090 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 8: of the wins because they're starting pitching was amazing. 1091 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 5: But this stretch has just. 1092 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,720 Speaker 8: Been horrible and they can't even get on base anymore, 1093 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 8: no hits, no walks, and the extra base hits thing 1094 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,840 Speaker 8: is really concerning. Just want to ask you, guys, do 1095 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 8: you think this is a slump? Do you just think 1096 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 8: this team is just terrible? 1097 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: The podcast, I got it, I got a bad I 1098 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 1: got a bad thing to say. They might just suck. 1099 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: I think I think there's I think there's a non 1100 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 1: zero chance that this offense just stinks and that unless like, 1101 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 1: and that's what the current version of Lindor, that's what 1102 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 1: the current version of Linzo, that's what with the version 1103 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,320 Speaker 1: that we've seen for the last two months, right like, 1104 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 1: they've been bad. The numbers we read out to you 1105 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,399 Speaker 1: without Wansto are pretty pretty shocking. It's crazy how much 1106 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 1: he does impact this offense, Like ten points of on 1107 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 1: base percenta just kind of insane to think about that 1108 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 1: he has that impact. That's how good Wan Soto is. 1109 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 2: Over three percentage points of barrel rate. 1110 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, like that's that's freakish, the impact he makes on 1111 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 1: this team. It is also concerning to the quality of 1112 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,359 Speaker 1: players on this team, not just Lindora Alonso, but also 1113 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,439 Speaker 1: everybody else behind them not doing their job. It's also 1114 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,319 Speaker 1: a little bit on the front office for maybe not 1115 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,479 Speaker 1: having as legitim a roster as we thought they. 1116 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 2: Did, I guess. But then like going into the season, 1117 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 2: we seeing put the front office built of again like 1118 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 2: Lindor Nemo Alonso flanking Wansda, We're like, no matter what, 1119 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 2: no matter what, based on the regular average outputs of 1120 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,320 Speaker 2: all of these guys, that's the top five offense in 1121 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 2: the league, and everything else kind of became gravy. 1122 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 1: Maybe a little too much faith in Mark Vientos, right, 1123 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,240 Speaker 1: like they pulled. 1124 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 2: The plug of Mark Vento's not in totality, But that 1125 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 2: also comes back to Mendoza because we also know, in 1126 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 2: terms of the way the most front office and coaching 1127 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 2: stats work in this league, the Mets give relatively more 1128 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 2: autonomy to Mendoza than most other front offices give their manager. 1129 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 2: So that's part of it as well. And also that 1130 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 2: is I think that there's a lot of things Carls 1131 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 2: Mendoza does well. I thinks good Man thinks he doesn't 1132 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,799 Speaker 2: do well. He is a player's manager. He rides with 1133 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,319 Speaker 2: the guys, and when you have as much success as 1134 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 2: the Mets, specifically Mendoz and Mark Vantis had last year, 1135 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 2: it's hard to flip the switch in the other direction quickly, 1136 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 2: and a lot of you guys listening right now, because 1137 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,919 Speaker 2: we do have a very divisive split in the Mets 1138 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 2: community of listeners to the show who are like, you 1139 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 2: have to get Mark vantis going and Mark Fanti is 1140 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:30,799 Speaker 2: not major League baseball player. We saw it all through 1141 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 2: the conversations happening around the trade deadline. So even being 1142 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 2: from the inside of that, that does seem like just 1143 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,359 Speaker 2: a crazy It's just that it's a it's a very 1144 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 2: strange decision to make Dane and Day, and we see 1145 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 2: how badly Carss Medoza specifically wants to get Mark Fantis 1146 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 2: going and Mark Fanzo's while he yes, he has hit 1147 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 2: better for two weeks now, So I'm not gonna I'm 1148 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 2: not gonna disparage that. That's kind of a thing that's 1149 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 2: going back and forth. And I do want to give 1150 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 2: credit to our favorite reporter, the old moon faced Steve Gelbs. 1151 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 2: He he opened the press availability for Mendoza today saying, 1152 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 2: like we've had these conversations, they should be better, they 1153 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 2: should be better for months. It's August. He said, where 1154 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,359 Speaker 2: does that leave us? And then Mendoza still gave him 1155 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:07,919 Speaker 2: the can we know we're better, we should be better. 1156 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 2: But I think that finally I was. It's been very 1157 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 2: it's been a very fair time to ask that question. 1158 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 1: And I'll ask you this. Mark Vianz has been better 1159 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 1: over the last two weeks, right, mm hmm. I want 1160 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 1: to I want to know what his ops is over 1161 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 1: the last fifteen. 1162 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,919 Speaker 2: Games, seven thirty. 1163 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 1: Six forty five stop six forty five. He's in fifty 1164 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 1: five though, he's getting his singles. There you go, he's 1165 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,120 Speaker 1: getting his singles. Eric Shaves is pumped you. How many 1166 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 1: walks he has in his last fifteen games? How many one? 1167 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:36,279 Speaker 1: You want to know how many walks he has in 1168 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:40,959 Speaker 1: his last thirty games? How many one? Oh? No, Yeah, 1169 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 1: Mark Fiento's right now is running like a sub one 1170 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,360 Speaker 1: percent walk rate over the last month. 1171 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:47,879 Speaker 2: It's really bad. 1172 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 1: It's really fucking bad. I don't I don't give a 1173 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:51,759 Speaker 1: shit what his average is. 1174 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 2: Did you do the third the second voicemail from Andrew? 1175 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 1: Did I do that? 1176 00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 2: He's got there, he's got the Garfield pro pickn't I 1177 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 2: didn't click Garfield. 1178 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. 1179 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 2: This one came in at two forty four, so nice. 1180 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 2: Got Andrew minutes after you boasted the story. 1181 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,879 Speaker 12: So you have a team you just patched every hole 1182 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 12: in your bullpen, which was arguably your biggest weak point. 1183 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 12: You have one of the better rotations in the National League. 1184 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 12: If you have nothing but spoils of talent on the. 1185 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,880 Speaker 13: Hitting side and you can't piece it together, what is 1186 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 13: the magic pixie dust that this team needs to put 1187 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,839 Speaker 13: it all together? Because on paper, there's nothing wrong other 1188 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 13: than these star hitters can't get hits when. 1189 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 5: It actually matters. What needs to change. I'm not a loss. 1190 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 1: That's that's where I think our numbers do come in. 1191 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 1: I actually think on paper, there is something very wrong 1192 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 1: with this team. They don't barrel up the baseball. They 1193 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 1: don't get on base the quality of contacts poor outside 1194 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 1: of wan So too. And I bet you if you 1195 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,399 Speaker 1: took if you took out Pete Alonso too, which again, 1196 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:51,319 Speaker 1: now we're really now we're. 1197 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:52,879 Speaker 2: If you take the best you hitters off, any team 1198 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:53,760 Speaker 2: come in the best. 1199 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 1: But then there's but then there's seven guys in the 1200 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,839 Speaker 1: lineup that are sure really bad, really bad, like worse 1201 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:00,879 Speaker 1: up hirates bad. 1202 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 2: I think that again, I think that would be a 1203 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 2: bridge too far. Stisically, I think that that would prove it, 1204 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 2: that would prove it's nothing, but it is. It is 1205 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 2: so ironic that we've plugged up this bullpen. We just 1206 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 2: can't use them. 1207 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 1: No, there's they're useless. 1208 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,400 Speaker 2: There's no moment for these guys. And even like the 1209 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 2: times that Helsing and Rodgers come in this series, Hellsley, 1210 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 2: it's it's a bunch that the ball is thrown to 1211 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 2: the outfield and he winds up giving up two runs 1212 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 2: in the extra innings, and then Tyler Rodgers is blue 1213 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 2: blue walk and it's just like that's how you lose 1214 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:27,759 Speaker 2: the game on not lose the game, but that is 1215 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 2: how in the moment they lost the game on Tuesday night. 1216 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 2: It's just it's painful the way that it's going back 1217 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:34,880 Speaker 2: and forth round how this team is playing still with 1218 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 2: the thing holding us that we got got you got 1219 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 2: like you got fifty games left here for the af 1220 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 2: think exactly, so it's like forty forty seven. So there's 1221 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,839 Speaker 2: there's a moment. You got something by I think we're 1222 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 2: gonna do voicemails. I think we're gonna do three. 1223 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read out the names of the last three 1224 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,439 Speaker 1: because they're just a little bit shorter and we're coming 1225 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:52,879 Speaker 1: up on time. 1226 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 11: Here. 1227 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,799 Speaker 1: We got Papa Peppe, Chris, Ja, Kariko, Willy Deutsch, and 1228 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 1: then of course Frankie Pepper's will be the last voicemail 1229 00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 1: that we listened to. 1230 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,200 Speaker 2: I wonder if if frank you think frank He's had 1231 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:01,720 Speaker 2: us a regular Frank or a voicemail. 1232 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:04,920 Speaker 1: That's a good question. 1233 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:06,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. 1234 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:07,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess we'll find out. But regardless, 1235 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,840 Speaker 1: Frankie Pepper will be the last. Frankie Pepper's will be 1236 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 1: the last voice you hear shout Frankie Peppers. All right, 1237 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 1: it's coming from Papa Pepe. Let's see what he's got 1238 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:14,760 Speaker 1: for us. 1239 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1240 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,360 Speaker 14: I don't know if it's too late to leave a message, 1241 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 14: but I just want to say I kind of wish 1242 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 14: that the Mets would have. 1243 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,719 Speaker 5: Got no hit today. 1244 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 6: Maybe that would have sparked him to like turn it 1245 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,320 Speaker 6: around on some m I don't know, hopefully at least, 1246 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,760 Speaker 6: uh when you getting that one hit make a difference. 1247 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 5: Let's go Mets. 1248 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I was rooted for the no hitter. 1249 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:39,360 Speaker 1: I tweeted out. I was like, I'm root for the 1250 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 1: no hitter. Maybe just gets their shot is fired. 1251 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:45,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a we got Willie seven seconds from 1252 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 2: a guy, Willy Deutsch. 1253 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:47,320 Speaker 1: I hope it's just screaming. 1254 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 2: There we go. 1255 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,239 Speaker 8: Time to fire shot as allsound. 1256 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 3: If your results are this horrible, this long, eventually your 1257 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 3: process sucks. 1258 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. That's that's where we've gotten to at 1259 00:51:58,920 --> 00:51:59,280 Speaker 2: this point. 1260 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Christian Kerrico, last one before Frankie Pepper's 1261 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,719 Speaker 1: here we go. What's up? 1262 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 4: Guys? 1263 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 8: Listen? 1264 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,799 Speaker 14: This team is unwatchable right now. I don't understand what 1265 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 14: their problem is. I don't get it. Ever since you know, 1266 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 14: the Gay Mets of twenty twenty five, they have been 1267 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 14: losing baseball. Last year they were winning from that point on, 1268 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 14: So I don't understand why. I don't know what's going on. 1269 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,280 Speaker 14: They need a spark plug of some kind. This lineup 1270 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,600 Speaker 14: is better. We keep saying it's better than it. 1271 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 5: Is, but it's not. 1272 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,880 Speaker 14: We're watching like you guys keep saying the twenty twenty 1273 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,800 Speaker 14: four Phillies all over again good at the beginning of 1274 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 14: the year and just been awful awful since since June. 1275 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,840 Speaker 14: So I don't know what needs to happen here. We 1276 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,360 Speaker 14: need a spark plug of some kind. But this is 1277 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,879 Speaker 14: very painful. This got to be rock bottom man. One 1278 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:49,880 Speaker 14: hit today after this series against the Guardians. Disgusting, disgusting, 1279 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,400 Speaker 14: hard to watch baseball. 1280 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,640 Speaker 5: So hopefully something changes. 1281 00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,319 Speaker 14: Call up one of these kids, get McClean up here, 1282 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 14: gets brought up here. I don't care. We didn't trade 1283 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 14: for a start. We need to starter up here to 1284 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:02,920 Speaker 14: do something. I know it's the hitting, but we need 1285 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,160 Speaker 14: a spark plug. All right, let's fucking go Mets. 1286 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,279 Speaker 1: I actually think one Chris actually well articulated. That was 1287 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 1: one of the best voice measures we got, and good 1288 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 1: I think. I think that's where we can kind of 1289 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,399 Speaker 1: spin this now to what we're moving forward with is 1290 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 1: how do the Mets get out of this right? How 1291 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:19,719 Speaker 1: do the Mets move forward? How do we make these 1292 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 1: next fifty games actually matter and show that this is 1293 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 1: a capable team that can make a run the. 1294 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:25,400 Speaker 2: Plaoffs, make the playoffs. 1295 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 1: That's a legitimate thing that Mets have to worry about now, 1296 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:28,600 Speaker 1: is making the playoffs. 1297 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 2: I think there's a real conversation about the spark plug 1298 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,439 Speaker 2: element of this, because I think that's it's true because 1299 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 2: there's no there's no spark left on the offense unless 1300 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,000 Speaker 2: unless David Stern just wants to go Dumby and just 1301 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 2: put cars in bedg on this team. A spark plug, Yeah, 1302 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,360 Speaker 2: that could be a spark plug. That's also I just 1303 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,759 Speaker 2: think that's a dog. That's just not what that's not 1304 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 2: definitely I don't take something he would do. Also, while 1305 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,440 Speaker 2: we have you guys here, we're going to another episode 1306 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,280 Speaker 2: this week, Mark and I were kind of in between 1307 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,279 Speaker 2: two options, either rehashing our top ten prospects in the 1308 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,719 Speaker 2: system after the trade deadline, or if you guys might 1309 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,279 Speaker 2: get crazy with us redoing the trade deadline and out 1310 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:01,759 Speaker 2: of the park baseball and then simming the rest of 1311 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,239 Speaker 2: the season see if we can win the World Series. 1312 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 2: So those are two options for an episode that will 1313 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,440 Speaker 2: probably come out for you guys on Saturday. So whatever, 1314 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,480 Speaker 2: get more YouTube comments or YouTube comment that gets more 1315 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,080 Speaker 2: likes from those two options, you guys let us know 1316 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:13,840 Speaker 2: down below, And that's the episode we're going to record 1317 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,880 Speaker 2: either Thursday or Friday. We'll see that, but it probably 1318 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,640 Speaker 2: is time they just have to. But we still have 1319 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 2: kept keep talking about the fact that there's not really 1320 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,520 Speaker 2: actual space. I think if Frankie Montas, I guess we'll 1321 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:28,480 Speaker 2: just tele transition to the to the Brewers series preview here. 1322 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,600 Speaker 2: If Frankie Monta shows up on Saturday evening and just 1323 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 2: gets lit up again, he's probably going to go in 1324 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 2: the phantom a l. I think that's where we can 1325 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:38,280 Speaker 2: pretty confidently say. 1326 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 1: That, I mean, is that time for the Draft Kings 1327 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,480 Speaker 1: Player spotlight for Frankie Monts. 1328 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 2: You want to do it the frank just push it 1329 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 2: on Frankie Montis. But were going all in over fourteen 1330 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 2: and a half outs. 1331 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,440 Speaker 1: Draft Kings Player Spotlight Frankie Montas. 1332 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:57,319 Speaker 2: Here we go. It's kind of put up a show 1333 00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,560 Speaker 2: up time for Frankie Montas, and we've been I think 1334 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,719 Speaker 2: the like them, like the only Frankie Montsis defend their 1335 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 2: left I I think he's just not awful. I think 1336 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,839 Speaker 2: that he's being scapegoaded for a rotation that really at 1337 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,640 Speaker 2: the end of the day, and I keep saying this 1338 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,279 Speaker 2: like it's it's to me, it's a lot more about 1339 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,200 Speaker 2: Sanka and me and I a right now and a 1340 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 2: tiny bit Peerson on Wednesday. But I'm not blaming Dave 1341 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,520 Speaker 2: Pieceer for really anything this year. It's just those were 1342 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,600 Speaker 2: the guys who knew had to be the Big three, 1343 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,239 Speaker 2: Like in the Biggest Air quats. Ever like a big 1344 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:23,879 Speaker 2: three to be like the most big three we could 1345 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 2: have because they all are pretty good pitchers. Then it 1346 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 2: was really just by Mantas and Homes to kind of 1347 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,560 Speaker 2: soak up the back end and give us the splash 1348 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,160 Speaker 2: stars and just get us through five, hopefully six once 1349 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,880 Speaker 2: in a while. But I think Franky Montis gets through 1350 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,440 Speaker 2: five innings two runs on Saturday. I'll tell you that 1351 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:39,760 Speaker 2: right now. That's my bull prediction. 1352 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:41,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would take a look at the 1353 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,680 Speaker 1: outs recorded see how low it gets. I think it's 1354 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,719 Speaker 1: going to be pretty low. Frankie Montos hasn't kind of 1355 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,959 Speaker 1: five innings in his last two starts, so we're looking 1356 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,239 Speaker 1: at a total of eight and a third over his 1357 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,880 Speaker 1: last two appearances, which is pretty bad. He's only pitched 1358 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 1: up to like ninety two pitches over the last few games. 1359 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,239 Speaker 1: I mean, the sinate cynical person in me is like 1360 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,400 Speaker 1: take the underd I feel like there's no shot that 1361 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,000 Speaker 1: Frankie Montes goes more than five innings. It doesn't seem 1362 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,879 Speaker 1: like that's really in the realm of possibility. Right, got 1363 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 1: a zig when they zag, But that's exactly he got 1364 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:11,840 Speaker 1: a zig when they zag. So We'll be taking the 1365 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,799 Speaker 1: over on Frankie Mont's house because, like you said, he 1366 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:19,319 Speaker 1: almost has to. There's kind of no other option kind of. 1367 00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:20,920 Speaker 2: But also he does have a contract for next year, 1368 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,799 Speaker 2: so there's another option because he will be fine at 1369 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 2: the end of the day. But it is a situation 1370 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,440 Speaker 2: where these these athletes have so much pride and Frankie 1371 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,440 Speaker 2: Montas has had moments where he's flashed at least being 1372 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,080 Speaker 2: a passable three starter for a good chunk of his career. 1373 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,839 Speaker 2: And it did seem like he had a good start 1374 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,080 Speaker 2: against that Angels team that in that game two weeks ago, 1375 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 2: and then that Padres game it was four good innings 1376 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,120 Speaker 2: before a complete mental breakdown, and then the following up 1377 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 2: of a mental breakdown that game against the Giants who 1378 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:48,560 Speaker 2: gave up the home run and then the mess made 1379 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 2: a couple of mistakes on the infield and then the 1380 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,160 Speaker 2: wheels spun out. So this is about Frankie Montas focusing 1381 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 2: himself back up and getting himself into a situation where 1382 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:59,440 Speaker 2: he can just mentally get himself to restart because frankly, 1383 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,920 Speaker 2: the team, the team needs it. Yeah, it's it's just 1384 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:03,839 Speaker 2: I hate to be the ESPN guys, but it's time 1385 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:04,399 Speaker 2: to step up. 1386 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,479 Speaker 1: It's time to be that guy. Frankie Montas. But yeah, 1387 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,279 Speaker 1: it's our player spotlight. It's a weird one. We normally 1388 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,720 Speaker 1: go pretty positive. This one's like, hey, the spotlight's literally 1389 00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,920 Speaker 1: on you. You got you gotta do something for us, Frankie, 1390 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,560 Speaker 1: we need your friends lial player spotlight. Yeah, literally a 1391 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 1: spotlight on him. Guys, download the DraftKings sportsbook app and 1392 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,800 Speaker 1: use code foul that's Cade foul for new customers to 1393 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,520 Speaker 1: get one hundred and fifty dollars in bonus bets instantly 1394 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 1: when you bet your five bucks. Honestly great value only 1395 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,600 Speaker 1: on DraftKings. The crown is yours. Get that money, boys, 1396 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,160 Speaker 1: go get you some joh DraftKings. All right, let's talk 1397 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:34,439 Speaker 1: about this Brewer series, yep. 1398 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,760 Speaker 2: Rest of the pitching matchups. So bit if an a 1399 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,760 Speaker 2: saw Friday night at eight ten kind of a nice time. 1400 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,640 Speaker 2: Just take us through a night there for a Friday game. 1401 00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,760 Speaker 2: Code I Sango versus Brandon Woodruff told you guys, Saturday 1402 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:47,920 Speaker 2: seven ten weird having eight and seven back to back 1403 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,160 Speaker 2: in the same series. Frankie Mantas versus Logan Henderson. I'm 1404 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:54,200 Speaker 2: excited to talk about and then Sunday mattin a two 1405 00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 2: PM Sean and I have versus Quinn Priest. We hope 1406 00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:58,800 Speaker 2: that's an asof yeah, so. 1407 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,439 Speaker 1: Uh opposite of the Mets. The Brewers get on base, 1408 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:02,960 Speaker 1: they get it. They have the third highest on base 1409 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,440 Speaker 1: percentage of baseball at three twenty nine, even with WANSO, 1410 00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:09,080 Speaker 1: that is significantly better than the Mets. They don't slug better, 1411 00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,520 Speaker 1: we know that, but their OPS is still better than 1412 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 1: the Mets, or it's right around there, seven to twenty five. 1413 00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,240 Speaker 1: They get hits, they get on base, they play good defense, 1414 00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 1: they run, they pitch well. It's a very good baseball team. 1415 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,720 Speaker 2: Now the Brewis are the Bruises, aren't contructed in a 1416 00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,520 Speaker 2: hilarious way where right now they're having the best season 1417 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,880 Speaker 2: franchise history. This is the quickest as a team they've 1418 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,680 Speaker 2: ever gotten to to seventy wins. And also from op 1419 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,920 Speaker 2: to stats today, the Brewers are the first team in 1420 00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 2: MLB history to have a road trip of any length 1421 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,520 Speaker 2: where they scored fifty plus runs, didn't lose a game, 1422 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,200 Speaker 2: and didn't commit an error. So they're coming home after 1423 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:42,919 Speaker 2: doing that. 1424 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,680 Speaker 1: Cool, cool, Yeah, that sounds really good for the Mets, 1425 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:47,600 Speaker 1: which is really fun. 1426 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:51,040 Speaker 2: And again like that even a big wee zag again. 1427 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,440 Speaker 2: First team to seventy in baseball quickest they've been to 1428 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,640 Speaker 2: seventy in franchise history. And when you look at this lineup, 1429 00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,200 Speaker 2: you're gonna be like, what are you talking about? Because 1430 00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,480 Speaker 2: it's it's South Freelick, It's Isaac Collins, It's Andrew Vaughan, 1431 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,360 Speaker 2: It's Blake Perkins, Bryce Terrag, they got someone named Anthony 1432 00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:06,840 Speaker 2: Siegler playing star bass. 1433 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 1: Joey or Er Yankee's prospect. 1434 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 2: Okay, also Caleb Derbin, former Yankees prospect, Brandon Lockridge, the 1435 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,520 Speaker 2: guy we've made fun of a lot from the padres 1436 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,120 Speaker 2: on this team, like it's it's a line. 1437 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,120 Speaker 1: Of motostereo still kicking it up there in the majors. 1438 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,480 Speaker 2: Oh and tremona serius utilian fielder on the bench NonStop. 1439 00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,120 Speaker 2: Of course, Danny Jansen, much belign Danny Jansen, the back 1440 00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 2: will catcher. It's a it's an absolute who's who of 1441 00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,120 Speaker 2: nonsense baseball players that the Brewers have just turned into 1442 00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,480 Speaker 2: an absolutely scalding, stupid hot lineup right now. 1443 00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,160 Speaker 1: And similarly to a lot of teams that we played recently. 1444 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,200 Speaker 1: If the Mets don't score runs early in this game, 1445 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,600 Speaker 1: they will not win because this bullpen is one of 1446 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,280 Speaker 1: the best in baseball. Trevor McGill probably one of the 1447 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,520 Speaker 1: most underrated pitchers in baseball. When that guy's good and going, 1448 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 1: he's unbelievable. He's so good, he's the better McGill. Unfortunately 1449 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:50,360 Speaker 1: for US Mets fans. 1450 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,920 Speaker 2: Trevor McGill also he had a really rough start to 1451 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 2: a season. If you guys remember there were some murmurs 1452 00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,240 Speaker 2: about him being taken out of the closer role. There 1453 00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,080 Speaker 2: was some issues just with him. Remember that Yankee series 1454 00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,880 Speaker 2: also Bruce, he played like this team is falling apart. 1455 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,960 Speaker 2: Trevor McGill has given up almost no runs since like 1456 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,080 Speaker 2: the middle of April. His era is about to be 1457 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,080 Speaker 2: under two and it on where we're at right now. 1458 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,240 Speaker 2: It was a three run, six eight game on April twelfth. 1459 01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,080 Speaker 2: It was another run he gave up. In April twenty six, 1460 01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:14,760 Speaker 2: it was another run he gave up on it. On 1461 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:19,400 Speaker 2: May It's oh wow, it was June Wow. He's giving 1462 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,600 Speaker 2: up like nothing. This guy's unbelievable. This guy's so damn good, 1463 01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,440 Speaker 2: but he's he's also when you get to the back 1464 01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,400 Speaker 2: of the bullpen, it's also a demon Avenue Rebey. One 1465 01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,960 Speaker 2: of Mark and I's favorites, Jared Koenigs the left. You 1466 01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:30,480 Speaker 2: just throws one hundred miles an how r now because 1467 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,080 Speaker 2: bros just do that every few years. Nick mears Aaron 1468 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,560 Speaker 2: Ashby's coming back like it's just they they've just relentless 1469 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:36,960 Speaker 2: back there. 1470 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they're really good and uh. On the starting 1471 01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,160 Speaker 1: pitching side, Brandon Woodruff coming back from injury has been 1472 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,520 Speaker 1: pretty unbelievable, pretty ridiculously good. 1473 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,920 Speaker 2: So much credit to Brandon Woodriff where it's due. He's 1474 01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,959 Speaker 2: coming back from a really serious shoulder injury, the capsule tear, 1475 01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,120 Speaker 2: which is the thing that Koda Sanga strained a few 1476 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:56,600 Speaker 2: years ago, which is why they were so careful with 1477 01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,640 Speaker 2: Kodes Sang in the last year. They were so careful 1478 01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,240 Speaker 2: Kolle Sanga. Last year. Woodriff has lost like four miles 1479 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 2: an how lost the board and he's probably never getting 1480 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 2: those four miles an hour's back. So as he was rehabbing, 1481 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,160 Speaker 2: he just developed a color and now he's just like 1482 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 2: a field guy, change up fast, fastball, sinker color, just 1483 01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:13,360 Speaker 2: kind of mixing it all up around the zone. 1484 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,600 Speaker 1: Also still striking out more people than like he ever has. 1485 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:18,720 Speaker 1: He's doing it though by working low in his zone. 1486 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,040 Speaker 1: He used to be a high in his zone guy. 1487 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:21,560 Speaker 2: Like he used to be like the ball dog mean 1488 01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 2: Brandon Woodrif used to like h like mean, mug you 1489 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,439 Speaker 2: and throw ninety nine miles an hour at your face 1490 01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,160 Speaker 2: and like and like try to hit it. I dare you. 1491 01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,640 Speaker 2: But now he's just he's different, and it's just so 1492 01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,560 Speaker 2: much credit to a professional like that. Again, he just 1493 01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,480 Speaker 2: he just developed his color after there. He did not 1494 01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,320 Speaker 2: have a color before. And as he's lost all this 1495 01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,360 Speaker 2: VLO and this stuff, he's like, I need to get 1496 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,920 Speaker 2: this color back. And then all the pictures this year 1497 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,520 Speaker 2: is are interesting. Logan Henderson he has like a thirty 1498 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 2: percent strike up rate and a cup of coffee this 1499 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:46,520 Speaker 2: year in like a one five VR right, But the 1500 01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,360 Speaker 2: Brewers have so many starting pitchers, they're like, we got 1501 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,720 Speaker 2: no space. Now he's back up because Jacobszraski, he need 1502 01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:52,480 Speaker 2: a two week break so we could have enough innings 1503 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,120 Speaker 2: to pitch in the playoffs. He's it. They said, he's 1504 01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,320 Speaker 2: going the ale with a shin. Bruce jacob Ezraski, Yeah, would. 1505 01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,000 Speaker 1: Would you bump his leg on his bed walking around 1506 01:01:59,040 --> 01:01:59,400 Speaker 1: the corner. 1507 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:00,880 Speaker 2: I mean he is like he is like this then, 1508 01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 2: so I guess that could actually really bruising badly like Meszarowski. 1509 01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,840 Speaker 2: But it's just see the Bruce just storing a guy 1510 01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:07,720 Speaker 2: like Henderson in the minor leagues like this, just come 1511 01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:09,360 Speaker 2: back up and give him a few weeks it starts. 1512 01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,720 Speaker 2: Is incredible. Then Quinn Priester come out of nowhere this 1513 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,400 Speaker 2: year with some of the best ads in the National League. 1514 01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:16,560 Speaker 2: He's like this year's Tobias Myers where it's just so 1515 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:20,120 Speaker 2: much a use them. 1516 01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 1: Boston Red Sox straight him away or with the Pittsburgh Pirates. Yeah, 1517 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,360 Speaker 1: either of them have actually been pitching kind of well 1518 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,640 Speaker 1: starting pitcher wise, But I don't think when Priester does 1519 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,320 Speaker 1: this with team that's not the Bruce because they are 1520 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,560 Speaker 1: so good with this archaetype of pitcher just let's let's 1521 01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:34,800 Speaker 1: just junk your way to being like a two five 1522 01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:35,720 Speaker 1: r first season. 1523 01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:37,280 Speaker 2: The next year you might suck, but in the season 1524 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:38,360 Speaker 2: you're in, you're dominant. 1525 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,000 Speaker 1: Fun fact about Quinn Priester as the highest win loss 1526 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,040 Speaker 1: percentage in Major League Baseball. He's eleven and two. 1527 01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,800 Speaker 2: It's incredible. And then because the Brewers always seem to 1528 01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:49,040 Speaker 2: do this. Isaac Collins. You hipped Isaac Collins right now. 1529 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,520 Speaker 1: Well, he's a he's a switch hitter right and from 1530 01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:53,160 Speaker 1: one side he hits for power and from the other 1531 01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,160 Speaker 1: side he's like a slap hitting on base machine. 1532 01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:56,520 Speaker 2: His I mean, I'm sure a lot of Mets fans 1533 01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:58,680 Speaker 2: are remembering that name, Isaac Collins. You're like, oh my god, 1534 01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,000 Speaker 2: Isaac Collins. He has coming out in that game against 1535 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:02,880 Speaker 2: the Mets that we blew in that day game against 1536 01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,000 Speaker 2: Rie Garrett. But yeah, it's a seventy four mile and 1537 01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:06,720 Speaker 2: iver swings speed from the right side seventy two from 1538 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,560 Speaker 2: the left side, so still above average from both, but 1539 01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:11,880 Speaker 2: it's many more fast swings and it's a much longer 1540 01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,160 Speaker 2: swing from the right versa left. But overall it's come 1541 01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:17,320 Speaker 2: out to an eight hundred ops and like really good. 1542 01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,400 Speaker 2: And he never chases from either side. He knows when 1543 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,320 Speaker 2: the pitchers are coming in. So it's a He's a 1544 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,760 Speaker 2: twenty eight year old ninth round pick from Cretan and 1545 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:25,560 Speaker 2: he's just been a plus player all year, sent third 1546 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,840 Speaker 2: for the most days. Now it's like a really sneaky 1547 01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:28,680 Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year pick. 1548 01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:29,640 Speaker 1: Right now he's. 1549 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,000 Speaker 2: Sneakily actually probably is the favorite the National League. If 1550 01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,080 Speaker 2: you look at the rookies nationally at this moment. Let's see, 1551 01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:35,960 Speaker 2: let's witch sure what DraftKings got. We'll give him another 1552 01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:37,680 Speaker 2: little shower here. I look up the DraftKings Rookie of 1553 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:39,360 Speaker 2: the Year odds. You can keep talking about the Brewers 1554 01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,440 Speaker 2: if you got anything else. It's just I get this 1555 01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,280 Speaker 2: team is just relentless, like and you're going to be 1556 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,320 Speaker 2: so annoyed, like luckily more playing than now me. 1557 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,640 Speaker 1: Isaac Collins is plus two thirty five right now. Drake 1558 01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,400 Speaker 1: Baldwin is still the favorite, but that's some pretty good 1559 01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,720 Speaker 1: value on Isaac Collins there plus two thirty five. 1560 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:54,880 Speaker 2: That's pretty good, especially because he I'm sure he's gonna 1561 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:56,360 Speaker 2: have a higher war and Lorky the Year has become 1562 01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:57,840 Speaker 2: a bit of a war award the last few years. 1563 01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,240 Speaker 2: Nice that it's gonna be a cool strength first ranks 1564 01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,200 Speaker 2: matchup because the Mets are still it's hard to talk 1565 01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:03,919 Speaker 2: abut Mets strengths right now, one of the best teams 1566 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,240 Speaker 2: in the league in limiting stolen bases. The Brewers run 1567 01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,040 Speaker 2: like No Bay's fucking business, and it's a good moment 1568 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,520 Speaker 2: to talk about something we've talked about with Francis Goldndor 1569 01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,960 Speaker 2: playing through this broken toe and not being there William Contreras. 1570 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,320 Speaker 2: You look at his stats this year, they objectively suck, 1571 01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,480 Speaker 2: but he fractured his thumb early this season. He was like, 1572 01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:22,800 Speaker 2: I don't care. I'm just going to play through and 1573 01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:24,640 Speaker 2: I'm the catcher, like I'm the man. So he's had 1574 01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:28,240 Speaker 2: a bad season statistically, but what's happened the last few weeks. 1575 01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,360 Speaker 2: It seems like it's healed because he's raised the ops 1576 01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,040 Speaker 2: like seventy points in about three weeks of baseball, including 1577 01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:36,000 Speaker 2: a game last Friday where he went five for seven 1578 01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:39,120 Speaker 2: and became the first player in the stackcast era. Now, 1579 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:40,280 Speaker 2: I'm just going to go out and let me say, 1580 01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,520 Speaker 2: the first player in the history of baseball to have 1581 01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,000 Speaker 2: six batted balls that were hit harder than one hundred 1582 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:46,200 Speaker 2: four miles. No, howur in the same game. 1583 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,080 Speaker 1: I think you'd be pretty safe in saying that he's 1584 01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:48,760 Speaker 1: the first. I was. 1585 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,320 Speaker 2: I was covering it for him sports. I was like, 1586 01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,439 Speaker 2: holy shit. I was like, no one's ever done this before. 1587 01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:53,880 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh wow, no one's ever done 1588 01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:55,800 Speaker 2: this before. It was it was awesome, and William Cheri 1589 01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:57,960 Speaker 2: is probably the first player in baseball history to have 1590 01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,000 Speaker 2: six bat the balls to hard than a hundred one 1591 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:01,040 Speaker 2: power in the same game. 1592 01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,720 Speaker 1: Good baseball team, maybe one of the best in the 1593 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,160 Speaker 1: league playing like it, that's for sure. I mean, top 1594 01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,120 Speaker 1: to bottom, this is a clean, solid, fundamental team. Pat 1595 01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:13,160 Speaker 1: Murphy has really got these guys playing well. Great manager shot. 1596 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,440 Speaker 1: Pat Murphy also just a good vibes guy too, a 1597 01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,400 Speaker 1: lee vibes He's I think he keeps a pancake in 1598 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:17,920 Speaker 1: his pocket. 1599 01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:19,840 Speaker 2: I saw a clip of that, So he's got these 1600 01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:20,680 Speaker 2: guys pancakes on the go. 1601 01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,560 Speaker 1: As many vibes the Brewers have the Mets have none. 1602 01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:25,800 Speaker 1: But hey, we come out of the playoffs last year 1603 01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,880 Speaker 1: in that stadium in Milwaukee. Maybe it sparked something for them. 1604 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,560 Speaker 2: And I think we're still the last team to beat 1605 01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:33,640 Speaker 2: them in a three game series, not even kidding about that, 1606 01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,200 Speaker 2: the series that we beat them into the field. But 1607 01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,120 Speaker 2: we had that one completely dramatic, horrible loss. Double checking 1608 01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,120 Speaker 2: right now, Oh, actually no, it's just us and the Marlins. 1609 01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,880 Speaker 1: Don't let the Marlins get hot, not James Marlins right there, literally. 1610 01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:47,200 Speaker 2: James Maleins. I told you, guys, in males like I'm 1611 01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:48,840 Speaker 2: worried about Francesc Lindor and I think the Marlins are 1612 01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,360 Speaker 2: actually really good baseball team. He fucking nailed us take somehow. 1613 01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,680 Speaker 2: But there's been a long ass episode. Thank you guys 1614 01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,840 Speaker 2: all so much for the voicemails. Appreciate that. I appreciate 1615 01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:57,480 Speaker 2: that we can open the doors like that, and you 1616 01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,200 Speaker 2: guys are willing and receptive contribute to the show. That's 1617 01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:01,800 Speaker 2: kind of the best part about all this. And again 1618 01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:03,880 Speaker 2: his up in the comments whether you want and out 1619 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,120 Speaker 2: of the park Baseball Virtual Sam of the second half 1620 01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,760 Speaker 2: of the season, redo the trade deadline or mark and 1621 01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:11,000 Speaker 2: as top ten prospects for a Saturday upload. 1622 01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:13,320 Speaker 1: But also sorry that we didn't get to everyone's voicemail. 1623 01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:14,200 Speaker 1: I mean we're an hour in. 1624 01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:15,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're an hour in and they were like they 1625 01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,240 Speaker 2: were like, there the voicemails. It was a lot, but 1626 01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:19,560 Speaker 2: we got Franky Peppers to close us out. 1627 01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:26,680 Speaker 5: Gentlemen, this is Frankie Pepper's hat on that stunk. We stink, 1628 01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:33,600 Speaker 5: our offense thinks are pitching starting pitching stinks. I always 1629 01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:36,920 Speaker 5: try and bring a positive air to these instagrams, but 1630 01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:40,640 Speaker 5: I we got one hit today. How do you remain positive. 1631 01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:44,160 Speaker 5: I have to get one hit. You remain positive because the 1632 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:47,959 Speaker 5: boys and I went to go get some food, Mark James, 1633 01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:49,880 Speaker 5: I had a lovely time hanging out with you and 1634 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,720 Speaker 5: Jake afterwards. Shout out to Isaac as well, all the 1635 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:56,520 Speaker 5: all the friends who was able to say hi to 1636 01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:00,000 Speaker 5: at the ballpark today. It's really special. And for those 1637 01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,920 Speaker 5: if you won the remark and James actually don't talk 1638 01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,479 Speaker 5: to each other outside of the podcast. They get paid 1639 01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:07,520 Speaker 5: to work together and. 1640 01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:09,760 Speaker 1: They don't this isp agaanda that's. 1641 01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,560 Speaker 5: In real life. I'm only joking. They're wonderful people. They're 1642 01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:14,960 Speaker 5: really good friends, and I'm very grateful to have gotten 1643 01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,920 Speaker 5: to spend some time with them. All Right, boys, I 1644 01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:21,840 Speaker 5: hope the voicemail episode was good and I will talk 1645 01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:26,000 Speaker 5: to you soon, hopefully after Revetta series coming up. Let's 1646 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,600 Speaker 5: go Mets. Take care as always, boys. 1647 01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,680 Speaker 1: Big shout out Frankie Peppers. We did get to spend 1648 01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,800 Speaker 1: some time time with him at a rep Us cafe 1649 01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:35,960 Speaker 1: in Astoria. If you like a Repus, if you like 1650 01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:40,840 Speaker 1: Venezuelan food, this is a declaration a vouch you gotta 1651 01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,120 Speaker 1: eat there. We got Venezuela and friends. Friends they swear 1652 01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:44,680 Speaker 1: by and the food will put you in a coma. 1653 01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,040 Speaker 1: It's absolutely delicious, so if you're in a story a 1654 01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:50,400 Speaker 1: repus cafe. Also, we didn't get to rant about after 1655 01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,560 Speaker 1: the game, James, real quick shout Frankie Peppers drove us there, 1656 01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,000 Speaker 1: shout out having a car. But what was the whole 1657 01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:58,320 Speaker 1: reason why we need to ride there, James? What was 1658 01:07:58,360 --> 01:07:59,920 Speaker 1: going on after the game? What was there a lot? 1659 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,200 Speaker 2: So after this game, we were just with some friends 1660 01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:04,880 Speaker 2: of the park and we were just dying to get 1661 01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:08,080 Speaker 2: shout out before shout out before shout out Jake, shoutout Isaac. 1662 01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:10,280 Speaker 2: We were just dying to have a beer because we 1663 01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,400 Speaker 2: know there's going not gonna be super express trains during 1664 01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:13,520 Speaker 2: the day game. So we're like, we just want to 1665 01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:16,160 Speaker 2: let the crowds dissipate, just want to have one bruskie 1666 01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,040 Speaker 2: by the ballpark and then be on a road, get 1667 01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:19,560 Speaker 2: some dinner and then go home with a podcast and 1668 01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,400 Speaker 2: I can work and all this stuff. The two bars 1669 01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,160 Speaker 2: that the Mets have that both leave so much to 1670 01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:25,679 Speaker 2: be desired were closed. 1671 01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:29,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, Kke Corner closed pre and postgame. Apparently it's only 1672 01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:31,920 Speaker 1: Fridays and Saturdays and Sunday. It's only the weekends. It 1673 01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,200 Speaker 1: was saying that like after the game you can go there, 1674 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:37,759 Speaker 1: which is crazy, just losing money, just losing money, absolutely 1675 01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,320 Speaker 1: pissing away money, which is crazy. And then Ebbs, which 1676 01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:42,519 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what their deal is. I 1677 01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,120 Speaker 1: don't think it's been open at all this year. I 1678 01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,160 Speaker 1: feel like I haven't seen Ebbs open at all. What's 1679 01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,799 Speaker 1: going on? Like, how is this even possible? 1680 01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,320 Speaker 2: And then at the same time, it's just like it's 1681 01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:54,720 Speaker 2: it's really a great It just feels so easy to 1682 01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:56,880 Speaker 2: do this, just have have the bar and get the 1683 01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,840 Speaker 2: people there because we just it's we're there one to 1684 01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:01,559 Speaker 2: do it. And especially after these day games, it's such 1685 01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:03,200 Speaker 2: a mess getting out of there because if you drive 1686 01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:05,320 Speaker 2: to the day games, you get trapped in rush hour. 1687 01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:07,320 Speaker 2: If you take the train from the day games, all 1688 01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:08,960 Speaker 2: of the trains, the seven trains, which this is not 1689 01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,080 Speaker 2: something we're complaining about, but they're all Manhattan taking everyone 1690 01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:14,000 Speaker 2: from Manhattan back to Queens after work. So it's just 1691 01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:15,519 Speaker 2: it's like it's like it's like getting out of the 1692 01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:17,679 Speaker 2: music festival to get onto a seven line train after 1693 01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:19,439 Speaker 2: that game, unless you rush out of your season get there. 1694 01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:21,160 Speaker 2: So it would have been a great day to have 1695 01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:24,880 Speaker 2: those bars open. Everyone can spend forty five minutes, an hour, 1696 01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:26,360 Speaker 2: hour and a half, two or three beers. What everyone 1697 01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:28,639 Speaker 2: do with you with your night, your evening? There water, 1698 01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,719 Speaker 2: drink some water, anything, have have a couple some French fries, 1699 01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:35,680 Speaker 2: a pretzel like just any fry. Any place for the 1700 01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:37,320 Speaker 2: Mets fans to hang out after that game and let 1701 01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:39,519 Speaker 2: those crowds dissipate would have been great. And there's also 1702 01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:40,800 Speaker 2: one more thing I want to talk about that happened 1703 01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:42,719 Speaker 2: this game, that's been happening at to the field this week. 1704 01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,120 Speaker 2: We've talked about a lot in this podcast over the years. 1705 01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,519 Speaker 2: There's been a dog that has been or I'm sure 1706 01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:49,680 Speaker 2: a few dogs that have been trapped sitting there just 1707 01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:52,439 Speaker 2: making money for some grift or some jerk off. Fuck 1708 01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,280 Speaker 2: that guy, some asshole in front of that state mess 1709 01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:56,000 Speaker 2: up declaration. 1710 01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:56,800 Speaker 1: Fuck that guy. 1711 01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:00,320 Speaker 2: Absolutely The messed Up is the first proud pro dog 1712 01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,760 Speaker 2: Mets podcast on the internet. But there's been a brave 1713 01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:05,720 Speaker 2: guy over there, so I've been following up with him 1714 01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,920 Speaker 2: on Reddit. His name is Darth Butcher. He's just he's 1715 01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:10,479 Speaker 2: kind of funny. He's wearing like a dog nose and 1716 01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,920 Speaker 2: dog ears but then he's just he's having people donate 1717 01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,360 Speaker 2: to the ASPCA while he's standing right in front of 1718 01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,920 Speaker 2: the guy staring at his dog wearing a shock collar 1719 01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,320 Speaker 2: where the shock range is like two inches in every 1720 01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,840 Speaker 2: single directions that poor dog can move, basically be tortured 1721 01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:24,640 Speaker 2: day and day out for this grifter to make a 1722 01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,120 Speaker 2: few bucks. And it's ridiculous, and the Mets have said 1723 01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,439 Speaker 2: they can't do anything about it because that is city lands, 1724 01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:31,880 Speaker 2: but it's also just there. It's been since we were 1725 01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:33,519 Speaker 2: kids that this guy's been out there with I guess 1726 01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:35,360 Speaker 2: the series of dogs at this point, unless it's one 1727 01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,960 Speaker 2: really sad old dog, which just makes me want to cry. 1728 01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:40,400 Speaker 2: But it's it's the fact that this is being perpetuated 1729 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:41,640 Speaker 2: for this long. It makes me sick. So if you 1730 01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:44,120 Speaker 2: guys aren't following along the New York Mets subreddit, Darth 1731 01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:45,720 Speaker 2: Butcher has been a couple posts this week to have 1732 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,439 Speaker 2: tons of upposts, getting a lot of steam, and he's 1733 01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:50,160 Speaker 2: been he's been working trying to get one off the 1734 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,920 Speaker 2: SPCA and just trying to bring attention to this issue 1735 01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:54,240 Speaker 2: that's been happening for a very long time. 1736 01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:58,120 Speaker 1: Simply put, if there's anything that you can do. If 1737 01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna take a picture with the dog, I would 1738 01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,080 Speaker 1: suggest against it, because again, that dog is working against 1739 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,599 Speaker 1: its own will. It's it's it's being told to work, 1740 01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,280 Speaker 1: and it's generating money for this grifter and this asshole 1741 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:12,000 Speaker 1: who's just punishing this dog for basically existing. Gets a 1742 01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,160 Speaker 1: dog a hug, give us some waterduce. If you're gonna 1743 01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:16,360 Speaker 1: go show it any sort of attention, don't make it 1744 01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:18,880 Speaker 1: monetary towards this guy, because I'm promising you it's not 1745 01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:19,840 Speaker 1: going towards that dog. 1746 01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,519 Speaker 2: No, it's just and it's been years, so I am 1747 01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,519 Speaker 2: happy that someone is taking a stand and it's just 1748 01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:26,040 Speaker 2: it's it's it's cruel, it's horrible. 1749 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:30,679 Speaker 1: Fuck that guy. Fuck this series. Negativity gone. We're done. 1750 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,000 Speaker 1: It's it. No more Mopi, Mark, no more mopey James, 1751 01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,920 Speaker 1: no more angry, no more sad. Play better baseball, and 1752 01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:38,400 Speaker 1: we get good podcasting back in good baseball. I'm excited 1753 01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:40,280 Speaker 1: for it. Guys. That's it for this episode of that 1754 01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,920 Speaker 1: Mets Up podcast. Long one, very long, but we gotta 1755 01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:43,280 Speaker 1: get it out. 1756 01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:43,880 Speaker 2: We had to spew. 1757 01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:46,080 Speaker 1: It's like the episode Rick and Morty when you gotta 1758 01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,080 Speaker 1: get like the toxic version of yourself out. You just 1759 01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,519 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta throw it out of there, and hopefully 1760 01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:52,720 Speaker 1: we did, hopefully open your eyes to some things. Fire 1761 01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,599 Speaker 1: job as whatever it is. I don't think he's going anywhere, 1762 01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:57,439 Speaker 1: but maybe he will. Who knows. Maybe I'll wake up 1763 01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:58,679 Speaker 1: in the morning and be very surprised. 1764 01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:01,320 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe maybe they'll Willie randolp him, fly him out, 1765 01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:02,040 Speaker 2: then fire him. 1766 01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,599 Speaker 1: That would be That's sad, all right. I got nothing 1767 01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,320 Speaker 1: to say to that, you know what I want to say. 1768 01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:08,160 Speaker 1: Thank you guys for listening, Thank you for watching. Make 1769 01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:09,720 Speaker 1: sure you follow us on all our social media at 1770 01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,120 Speaker 1: mets up on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok. Subscribe to the 1771 01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:13,920 Speaker 1: mess Up podcast YouTube channel if you want to see 1772 01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:15,639 Speaker 1: the video version of this and if you are listening 1773 01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:19,160 Speaker 1: to us Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google drops a rating, drops review, download, 1774 01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,599 Speaker 1: and subscribe. You can follow James on social media at 1775 01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,360 Speaker 1: James Chiano. I'm draftneckmark with a CEE. Thank you guys 1776 01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,120 Speaker 1: for listening, Thank you for watching. We'll catch you all 1777 01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,160 Speaker 1: in the next episode. Peace Out, Let's go Mets. 1778 01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:29,479 Speaker 2: Peace Out, guys, Let's go Mets.