1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Welcome back to More to It, the show that takes 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: a deep dive into the biggest stories in sports, entertainment, 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: and culture. Start with headline news and then journey into 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: deeper conversations, always finding those life lessons that are presented 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: in every single story. I'm your host, Marcello. Say that 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: dude with that Hawaii spring break body underneath this shirt. 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: I'm hoping I actually ate amazing yesterday, y'all. But before 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: I get into all of that, I just want to 9 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: say thank you guys for listening, Thanks for the commons, 10 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: thanks for the support and all the love. Yes, welcome 11 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: to Never shut Up. That's what we're doing right now. 12 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: And let's start off with like we always start off with, 13 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: what's up with that dude? I ain't gonna talk about 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: my body yet because it ain't there yet. I ain't line. 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: I'm sucking it in. Let's talk about what happened yesterday 16 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: at the crib. You know, I grew up hearing that 17 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: happy wife meant happy life, right, And I think that 18 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: a sucker to the husbands in this world, because you think, Okay, 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 1: as long as I make my wife happy, she gonna 20 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: return the favor like a boomerang. Right, Well, it works 21 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: that way. Yes, immediately it works that way. But about 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, five six minutes later, your wife is 23 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: back to whoever your wife was before. You try to 24 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: make her happy, right, And it's funny me because I'm 25 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: the same damn way. But yesterday we got the delivery 26 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: of our outdoor patio furniture set. Right, Oh my god. 27 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: We had a blue set out there that I liked. 28 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: I admit it got a little old and dusted and disgusted, 29 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: but still it was back there. It looked cool. My 30 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: wife was like, we need another one, and she just 31 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: kept nagging. Every time I go outside. I'm playing ball 32 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: with him. J oh, it would look much better. He 33 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: probably catch every pass if he could rest on some 34 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: new patio furniture. Everything I barbecue, and oh yeah, this 35 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: looks great. The food is amazing, but it probably look 36 00:01:55,080 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: even nicer. Everything turned into a patio furniture set convoy. 37 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: I caved, and yesterday it delivered, and I thought it 38 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: was gonna make her the happiest person in the world. 39 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 1: And it did until it was time for the kids 40 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: to go to bed, and then she was yelling at 41 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: me again and do something. I was like, God leave, 42 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: we having a happy life, happy wife and that went 43 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: out the window. That was fun. Woke up this morning 44 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: to one of the sweetest moments. My four year old 45 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: looked at me and out of nowhere said, Daddy, I 46 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: love you. I was like, oh, I mean, come on, everybody, 47 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: ah And I said why. She said, because when you sleep, 48 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: your butt is out. I was like, what she said, 49 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: you sleep with your butt out like this Dad. That 50 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: wasn't the answer I was expecting, and it kind of 51 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: robbed me of the moment of baby. I thought this 52 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: was gonna be a heartfelt moment. She just turned into 53 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: another four year old, nasty, little prank thing. So took 54 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: that moment ran would it even though it didn't mean 55 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: anything to her. The last thing is my mother in 56 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: law leaves today. Yes, and my daughter cried. One daughter cried, 57 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: the daughter said bye bye, see you soon. My MJ 58 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: was like, whatever, and you know it's gonna be a 59 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: sad day. I get it. And at the same time, 60 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a different day and I ain't gonna 61 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: stay happy. But I'm just gonna say this. My mother 62 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: in law got into a good routine in these last 63 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: three weeks It included waking up exactly at the same time, 64 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: coming upstairs at the exact same time, about twenty minutes 65 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: before the kids go to school, so she ain't got 66 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: to help him get ready, And then she timed that 67 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: up perfectly. And then she would always come upstairs and 68 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: talk about the weather. I mean literally the weather for 69 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: those twenty minutes. The weather, y'all. Y'all, y'all think, y'all 70 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: think I'm playing the West for twenty minutes. Oh God, 71 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: She's the sweetest lady in the world. But boy, I 72 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: think she missed her calling. She should have been a 73 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: weather woman. All right, y'all, let's get into it now. 74 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: This story right here got on the radar. This is 75 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: some gangster sh right here, something you won't see on ESPN. 76 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. Aaron Hernandez, his older brother Dennis 77 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: DJ Hernandez, was arrested after he allegedly threw a brick 78 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: at ESPN's headquarters, and Bristol would have not attached to it, 79 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: according to police documents. All right, let's get through the 80 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: beat of this incident. Happened around three o'clock in the afternoon, 81 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: broad daylight come up on him. Want to walk by 82 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: with a brick. This happened on the campus after cops 83 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: were asked to perform a welfare check on DJ after 84 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: he allegedly stated he wanted to smash out windows at 85 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: ESPN and the state Capitol. I don't know what they 86 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: have in common, but man gangster, so police say. ESPN 87 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: security told the Uber driver that they saw one of 88 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: the gates to turn away. Passenger didn't get out the car, 89 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: allegedly that's DJ, and threw something on the grounds, then 90 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: got back in the vehicle and left right. Didn't walk 91 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 1: by for real. And the Uber cops and the documents 92 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: say when they investigate the object, they saw a white 93 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: plaster bag with a brick in and blah blah blah 94 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: to all media outlets. He wrote on the brick in 95 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: a note, it's about time you all realize, and he spoke. 96 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: He wrote, realize what r E A L E y 97 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: E s real eyes? Wow, the effect media has on 98 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: all family members. Since you're a worldwide leader, maybe you 99 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: could lead how media messages are delivered brick by brick, 100 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: clean it up? Exclamation point, Oh he ain't playing. Oh. 101 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: The note was signed yours truly, Dennis J. Hernandez So 102 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: let's leave all the allegedly out of this and the 103 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: yours truly part. Yeah, what a backhand compliment. Way to 104 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: be nice and DJ okay? Right. Cops say they ultimately 105 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: made contact with DJ, and he admitted to going to 106 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: ESPN but didn't want to speak about the incident. All right, 107 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: I get it. He got arrested for a misdemeanor breach 108 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: of P six C. Now what is going on here? 109 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: You gotta remember that after Aaron Hernandez committed suicide in prison, 110 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: that DJ wrote a book and the book was called 111 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: The Truth About Aaron, My Journey to Understand My Brother. Wow, 112 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,679 Speaker 1: you know what's going on here? Simple dude is pissed 113 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: off at the portrayal of his brother and what the 114 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: effect has been on his family. And you can understand that, 115 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: and you probably understand it and empathize with it if 116 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: you think the portrayal was off. Obviously DJ feels that 117 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: way from the outside. We don't feel that way, right, 118 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: I do not feel connected to Aaron Hernandez in terms 119 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: of what was true and what was false. All I 120 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: know is what was reported, and it was hard to 121 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: argue those as facts correct. So the whole portrayal of 122 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: him being a gangster, whether he was faking it or 123 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: he was really about it, the whole Poc life, the 124 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: Tupoc life. You didn't made it and all of a 125 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: sudden you get gangster or you were actually brought up 126 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: in it and you couldn't let it go, whatever the 127 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: situation was. We were sitting there like dumbfounded, right, like 128 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: what do you do if you're an NFL player you're 129 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: gang banging. It's one thing to act hard, you know, 130 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: try to do the job. Moran. It's one thing to 131 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: try to play it off like you got street cred everywhere, 132 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: you know, and you just acting like you got connections 133 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: and everything is about the life. That's one level of 134 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: the faking it. But when you really are gonna go 135 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: beyond faking it to the point where you really trying 136 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: to live it, we all were scratching our head, like, 137 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: come on, Aaron hernananez DJ, you can't be mad at 138 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: the world at large because they actually bought into the 139 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: reality that that's what your brother was. They also portrayed 140 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: him as gay, saying he had the lover and the 141 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: prison cell and etc. Etc. And all of those things 142 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: that were implied and what are we supposed to infer 143 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: from that if they weren't being explicit about it, it 144 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: was just the fact that they said your brother was 145 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: gay and a gangster. Wow, I understand how that can 146 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: have impact on you. But what is ESPN to do 147 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: in that situation? You tell me. But ultimately, when he 148 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: committed suicide, I think that that's where you probably draw 149 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: the line and you gotta cover all this factually, but 150 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: at the same time, opinions will be based off of 151 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: those facts. Sad state of affairs, man, because it seems like, 152 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: as they say all the time, when someone goes to jail, 153 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: they're not the only one that goes. And obviously when 154 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: someone dies, the families impacted and they're not the only 155 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: one who feeling that death. So I hope and pray 156 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: actually for DJ man because who this may be a 157 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: warning sign of bad things to come. Well, it's time 158 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: to go on fire on this topic. Let's talk about 159 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. And right now, in my head, I know 160 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: that's a dog Pound track that we come in with 161 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 1: all the time with that corrupt behind the walls. But 162 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: there's another song that they made called what would You Do? 163 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: And if y'all remember that one. That one wasn't even 164 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: harder boom? What would you do if you anyway? What 165 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: what Lamar Jackson do if he were a New England Patriot? 166 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: Let's get into this one, because the reporter says, hey, man, 167 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: I was sitting there at the NFL Meetings Owners meetings, 168 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: saw Bob Kraft there, decided, hey, why not take a shot, 169 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: throw a hell Mary at him and see if he's 170 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: gonna answer this kind of crazy question. He said, Lamar 171 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: Jackson requested a trade today, A lot of fans back 172 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: home in New England or clamoring for him. What do 173 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: you think was the Patriots make a run? And you 174 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: ever asked somebody a question like that, and you're like, dog, 175 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: you almost start turning your body as soon as you 176 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: asked me, like, and ain't abody to answer this? And 177 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: he said Bob Kraft bit and he was like, what 178 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 1: the hell mary connected? Now? Full discrestion right here. I 179 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: gotta tell you guys, that man Bob Kraft Columbia alumni 180 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,599 Speaker 1: right there. Yeah, so I had to do that full disclosure. 181 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. He says this. I don't know 182 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: how to take this, but y'all work with me. On 183 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: this one. You know, Meek Miller is my friend. Now, 184 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: I don't know who cloud chasing more in this relationship. 185 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: Meet Mill to Bob craperbab Crav to me Miil because 186 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: if somebody ever responds, well, you know, Marcel Swally is 187 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: my friend, Like, it's like, oh dog, why don't you 188 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: just say my friend said? And that lets you know. 189 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: Bob is kind of pump. He got that young rapper 190 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: kicking it with him. You know, Meek Miller's my friend, 191 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: he said. He texted me saying that Lamar Jackson wanted 192 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: to come here. All right, we're getting somewhere personnel player, 193 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: personnel director, Meek Mill. But that's Bill Belichick's decision. Oh 194 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: here we go, y'all know, I'm gonna talk through this. 195 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: Of course Bill Belichick had to respond him to this, 196 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: and he says, quote, I'm not gonna talk about players 197 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: or any other team. And you know he said it 198 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: hella dry and shorter than that. So what is going 199 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: on here? What do you do when your homeboy texts 200 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: you and your homeboy is not even associated with the NFL? 201 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: Why are you putting that out there? Is an owner 202 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: to just deflect and then say actually, that's not my responsibility, 203 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: that's Bill Belichick. Do y'all see this hot potato going 204 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: on right here? Like like seriously like one, Bob Kraft, 205 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: I love you to death, you know that. But I 206 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: think everything's your responsibility if you want it to be. 207 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: But of course, why step in something like this the 208 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson sweepstakes if you don't have interests? So what 209 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: do you do? You delegate that, right, you deflect? You say, oh, 210 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: gotta ask Bill Belichick about that one. But Bill Belichick 211 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: got his marching orders or you already know he ain't 212 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: trying to march towards Lamar Jackson. So this is an 213 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: easy one to play and then bring up like, oh, 214 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just sitting at the crib, you 215 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying about to go to the club 216 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: and threw on some Meek Mill while I'm listening to me, 217 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: Meek text me Tom about Lamar Jackson. Hit him up, Tomody, 218 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: want to be a Patriot? How random is this and 219 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 1: how raggedy does this sound in terms of Lamar Jackson's 220 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: operations if they're really trying to do that, And the 221 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 1: fact that Bob Kraft really gonna listen to meek Mill hilarious. 222 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: But let's be real about this and talk about the 223 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: options Lamar Jackson's has he has in this moment, because 224 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: it's starting to look a little different than it did, 225 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: not only a month ago, but obviously when Lamar Jackson 226 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: was at his full powers. Washington now, Washington interest in 227 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: the commanders. You look at their situation, I could see 228 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson there because obviously he's more talented and better 229 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: than the quarterbacks on their roster. What did Washington come 230 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: out and say, quote, I don't want to sound critical 231 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: of anyone. You know what's about to happen. Then they're 232 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: gonna hide their criticism, but they might gonna be a 233 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: critical He's a very talented guy. He's one of the 234 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: better quarterbacks in this league. Oh that's a shot right there, 235 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: one of the better because better means like you mid pack, 236 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: like you better than the midpack? Like right? So what 237 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: do you ten to sixteen? Maybe Mayhew said, But for 238 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: us right now, I love the right now because that 239 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: lets you know you can't argue me. Don't talk about yesterday, 240 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: don't talk about tomorrow right now, don't talk about a 241 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: year ago, don't talk about when you want to MVP. 242 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: Don't talk about the future right now. We're moving forward 243 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: with Sam Howell and Jacobe Brissette. Man, it's dark out 244 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: there for you, Lamar Jackson, it's dark, Sam Howard, Jacobe Brissette, 245 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: y'all already know. Do what you want in the comments 246 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: with that. Now, let's talk about the Coats. Interesting Jim 247 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: mr say, you know he's a rebel. However, he is 248 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: a rebel that was just redeemed of late because he 249 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: started calling out the Washington commanders and Dan Snyder. But 250 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: you remember all his issues and the drug addiction and 251 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: all the problems that the owners had with him. Does 252 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: he really want to go back to that place of 253 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: being a pariah in the ownership group meetings or is 254 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: he gonna take this newfound space that Yeah, I tack 255 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: Dan Snyder, so damnit, y'all love me. But this is 256 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: what they have on their roster, Gardner Minshew. If they're 257 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: gonna get a Menshew mania, maybe, but Gardner Minshew and 258 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: Pastor Nick Foles, come on, y'all, that ain't gonna get 259 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: it either. So there's an opportunity for him with the Coats. 260 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: But are you gonna go do that? And obviously, the 261 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: one that is really there for him is right under 262 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: his nose. Stay with the Ravens. Now, you could have 263 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: played this situation a little different and instead of having 264 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: the non exclusive tag franchise tag, you could have had 265 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: you could have had the exclusive one, the exclusive one 266 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: that's that big boy right but still non exclusive tag. 267 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: You could play that get tagged, get tags, mess around, 268 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: you pull a kirk Cousins. You stay with the Raisin 269 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: Ravens and pull a kirk Cousins. Why is that important 270 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: Because Kirk Cousins, for a four year span made the 271 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: most money of all players in the NFL. That includes 272 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: when Patrick Mahomes signed for half a billion dollars, that 273 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: includes when Dak Prescott signed that mega deal for one 274 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: sixty kirk Cousins made the most. So if you franchise 275 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: tagget franchise tagget and go out there and playing ball 276 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: out yo, there is money at the end. There is 277 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: a pot of gold at the end of that tunnel. However, 278 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: there is a lot of risk involved as well because 279 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: of the injuries, and you've been hurt five games last year, 280 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: five games the year before. If that trend continues, obviously 281 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: you can't get that Kirk Cousin type of money. But 282 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: he's gonna get paid regardless. Shall I know. This is 283 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: a story that in the moment it just seems so 284 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: dire and it's up and down roller coaster. But being real, 285 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: a franchise level quarterback never hits free agency. The last 286 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: time we saw it was Kirk Cousins, and when they 287 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: hit it, you're like, what, oh my god, the thirty 288 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's gonna be twenty eight years old looking for 289 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: an unrestrictive free agent contract that's megabucks that might be 290 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: three hundred million. Bestially have to be seeing Herbert get paid, 291 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: and we obviously what happens with Joe Burrow, etc. So 292 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: it's just funny that I love the hot potato of 293 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: this conversation. I love the fact that there's nepotism in 294 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: this NFL, the meritocracy of sports man stop nepotism. We 295 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: saw it with Belichick and his son Steve Belichick. There's 296 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: cronyism and NFL in terms of appointing people to power 297 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: that don't really have those credentials. We see it all 298 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: the time. And there's also networking or working the net 299 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: meek mill, just texting the owner say hey, yo, think 300 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: about my boy. What's up? And the owner actually let 301 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: Nat leave his mouth. All of that says that Lamar 302 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: Jackson's gonna have a landing spot and it's gonna be sweet, 303 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: but it may not be exactly where he desires or 304 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: when he desires about the talk about that money, that 305 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: the narrow, that dope, dope dope that shot lent ty 306 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: Lou coach of my clips twenty thousand dollars during the 307 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: lockout in nineteen ninety eight. Yeah, he said this on 308 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: the Pivot podcast. Shout out to all of them dudes 309 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: over there, especially my boy Fred Taylor, former teammate Tanky 310 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: Tangy Tang got love for him over there. All right, 311 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: this is the quote. So Tylu is talking about Shaquille 312 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: O'Neill taking everybody under his wing, having such a big heart. 313 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: But he goes to Shock's house one day and he says, quote, 314 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: we got to Shack's house and the next day he 315 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: gives me twenty thousand dollars cash. He's like, I know 316 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: you ain't got no money. I know it's a lockout. 317 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: Take care of yourself. That kind of helped me out. 318 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: Shot just made me feel welcome right away. Lou shared 319 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: this in his appearance when he was on the Pivot Wow, 320 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: and that just made my mind start racing because I 321 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: know these experiences and a lot of times fans don't 322 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: get to go behind the curtain in terms of how 323 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: do you guys get paid, why do athletes go broke? Etc. Etc. 324 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: What we got a little time, let's talk to it. Well, 325 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: NBA is different than football in terms of our payments. Obviously, 326 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: in football you get paid during the season. That's it, 327 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 1: all right, So what used to happen in football? It's 328 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: something like this in terms of guys needing that bridge loan. 329 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: Why football season is in August, it starts right. You 330 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: start getting your checks in August training camp. That's a 331 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: small check in comparison to your salary, very small check. 332 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: I don't know where the numbers are now, but back 333 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: in those days, we were getting paid like maybe a 334 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a day. Trust me, I know people at 335 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: home like what And I'm talking about to the NFL player. 336 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: That's not comps. So the guys that are like, all right, 337 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: that's a little money. But then you get into the 338 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: preseason games, it was like twenty five hundred dollars for 339 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: a game. Right, Still, you're talking about guys who are 340 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: making millions and millions of dollars, and some of them 341 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: making it for a week. So getting a thousand dollars 342 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: is not necessarily gonna keep the bills paid. So from 343 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: there you get paid. August September, you get the bump 344 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: to the regular season, bam, and here come the checks. 345 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: Here come the checks. They're coming in right every single week, 346 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: seventeen weeks, go to the playoffs up to twenty weeks, 347 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: got your money coming right, and then, no matter who 348 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: you are, I don't care if you won a championship 349 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: or not, February it's over. Now. You got from February March, April, May, June, July, 350 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: and then August again to get another check. How are 351 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: you budgeting this? Now? Every single year I was in 352 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: the league, there were around plus a minus five guys 353 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: who needed these bridge loans, who needed to just get 354 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: through to the next check. And I'm being real now, 355 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: y'all can say, man, that's just some frivolous spending. Nah, 356 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you straight up, it's not just bad. 357 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: It's not just big spending. It's people with big hearts 358 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: as well. We know it takes the village to raise 359 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: a child, right, But the problem with a lot of 360 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: athletes is when they make it, they try to repay 361 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: that village or they try to bring that village along 362 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: with them for the ride. And that's not how you're 363 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: supposed to do it. You're supposed to get the golden 364 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 1: goose so fat and fluffy. That means stack those chips, 365 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: get that money, keep it, keep it, keep it, golden goose, 366 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: this big, and that's what the golden goose can do. Now, 367 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 1: lay golden eggs, all right, get the principal big. Then 368 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: all of a sudden later interests. Now. I saw this 369 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: firsthand with my two best friends that I graduated with 370 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: that both became Wall Street executives. They went on the 371 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: path of the hockey stick graph. Right, So it's like this, 372 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: they're making little money, little money. Oh my god, look 373 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: at these Wall Street exacts. Right. Meanwhile, I at it 374 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: like this roo helicopter ride straight up. And that those guys, 375 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: when they finally are in their thirties, have been accustomed 376 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: to a lifestyle that they were making this little money 377 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: in their twenties. One they were going to be a 378 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: little loose with the money when they were trying to 379 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: figure it out, find out and hanging out a ton. 380 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: They had this muster work with, so they learned to 381 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: work with it, right. But meanwhile, an athlete it's got 382 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: this muster work with and they don't know how to 383 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: work with it all because in part they think they 384 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: have so much that they can give you some, give 385 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: you some, Mama, this gets the car, gets the house, 386 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: Daddy is gets the car, gets a house, sister gets 387 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: the house, Untie gets some money, and then next thing 388 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,479 Speaker 1: you know, this has turned into this. But keeping up 389 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: with the Joneses and your lifestyle, your monthly nut is 390 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 1: actually still there. So it's not just big spending furs, 391 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: jewry cars for you. It's big hearts that are actually 392 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: trying to take the whole village on this ride. Because 393 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: as soon as they make it, they all put on 394 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: that hat and they start promising things that they haven't 395 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 1: necessarily acquired in the full, and then you know they 396 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,719 Speaker 1: Uncle Sam, oh, Uncle Sam coming through the door, and 397 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: he wants it all. So I just looked at this 398 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: story like, Wow, even the guy who's been in the 399 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: league a first rounder doesn't matter. Man, the budget and 400 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: the numbers don't care about your story, and so many 401 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: athletes walk into it and it's hard. It pulls on 402 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: you because you got all this money compared to everyone 403 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: else in your family, right, and you're like, I can't 404 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: leave them there, I can't leave them down there. I 405 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: gotta bring them up. But it's a time and place 406 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: to do that. And the time and place it is 407 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: a long time. After you get drafted. First, you gotta 408 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: get it going and then you can start lending it out. 409 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: So I seen a lot of guys have to go 410 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: through this same scenario, the same situations, situation, and it's 411 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: sad because you know the guy is actually trying to 412 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: figure this out. The guy is not doing all bad things. 413 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: And some guys do figure it out. Trust me, the 414 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: one that he is actually asking for the money, he 415 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: figured it out. He knows how to do it. He 416 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: knows how to make it through that offseason. No pity 417 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: parties for any of these guys, because we do have resources. 418 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: We do have proper resources that can help us figure 419 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: this situation out. But a lot of times guys get post, 420 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: guys get poked on. Guys look at their situations and 421 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: try to bring everybody up. It's hard to bring that 422 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: entire village floor up, and a lot of guys suffer 423 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: from it. It's time to talk about Aaron Rodgers and 424 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. Brian guden coups is going on. Man, 425 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: it seemed like every single offseason we got an Aaron 426 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: Rodgers story that is just not neat. It's not clean, 427 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: it's not convenient. And my grandma used to always say 428 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: the truth is simple and lines of complex, and boy, 429 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: here's another complex story surrounding Aaron Rodgers. All right, the 430 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: Packers general manager Brian canuon couse disfuse Aaron Rodgers's claims. Oh, 431 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: he says talks with Rogers quote never transpired this offseason, 432 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: never transpired, really, And when Aaron Rodgers announced his intention 433 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: to play for the Jets, franchise legend said the Packers 434 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: have been shopping him behind his back, never has to 435 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: take to put him and that he wished the team 436 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: had more direct communication. Now yesterday, oh, the GM came 437 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: out and said, calmly but forcefully, let me just push 438 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: back on that assertion that we couldn't reach him. Let 439 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: me tell you why we couldn't reach him. He's like 440 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: after multiple attempts and trying to get in contact with 441 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Quote. I think at that point I had 442 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: to do my job. Messy situation and packers and Jess 443 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: is still trying to work out a trade, and he's 444 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: on record saying he wants that trade done sooner than later. 445 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: It's a messy situation. We all know that. But how 446 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: does it get messy? Big business like this, how does 447 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: it get messy? Well, I got experienced with this one. 448 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: It starts off always with an uneven level of interests. 449 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it again, uneven level of interest, whether 450 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: it's Aaron Rodgers and his interest in playing for the 451 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers going forward a little less or a 452 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: little more than the Green Bay Packers wanting Aaron Rodgers 453 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: to play for them going forward. Maybe it's a seesaw effect, right, 454 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: It's like this, like Aaron Rodgers, I don't really want 455 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: to play for him, and they're like, we really do, 456 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: but not at this cost, not at this labor expense 457 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: that we're paying just to get in touch with you. 458 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: So it doesn't sound like Aaron Rodgers was readily available, 459 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: because be real, it's almost like dating, like you find 460 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 1: time for the girl you're trying to hol at, right, 461 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: ain't ain't no busy in the world that's gonna keep 462 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: you for somebody. You trying to talk to, somebody who's 463 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: trying to reach you that you actually want to talk to, right, 464 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: You use that line on the ones you don't want 465 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: to talk to. You're like, oh, it's busy. Oh man, 466 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I just saw your message man a couple 467 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: of days ago. I'm sorry you're busy because you're preoccupied 468 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: with things you're actually interested in. So when you guys 469 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: can't have direct communication, we all know what's really happening. 470 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: The Packers. Y'all not that interested in Aaron Rodgers and 471 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. You're not that interested in the Packers right now, 472 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: and y'all gonna go through the song and dance to 473 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: show that instead of directly saying that, okay, so we 474 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: got that going on. You tried to reach me and 475 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: I wasn't available. I played this trick all the time, 476 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: and everybody I know is laughing at me when I 477 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: try and pull it, like, oh man, I called, do 478 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: you want you hit me back? Oh? You called me? 479 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: I ain't know. I don't check my voicemail. You ain't 480 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: got to check your voicemail to know somebody called you, don't. 481 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: You just look at the phone and says, uh, call 482 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: friend that you ain't about to call back. Like that's 483 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: what they're said a little phone. So I'm I'm tripping 484 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: like dog. Why at this level, a big business with 485 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: jobs on the line and millions and billions at stake, 486 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: will they even go to such petty levels and play 487 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: petty gangs. Well, let's talk about it. In big business, 488 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: one thing that happens is there's a lot of bureaucracy, right, 489 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: There's a lot of layers. You know, there's an assistant 490 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: and then there's an executive assistant to who's the vice president, 491 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: who is the executive vice president subordinate, who has a 492 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: boss that is now the president who he has to 493 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 1: check in with, the CEO, who has to check in 494 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: with the chairman. You have to check in with the board. 495 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying, Like it's almost a telephone game. 496 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: You get on the phone, AO, check this out. Now 497 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: repeat it. Somebody gonna get on the phone say, yo, 498 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: check this out. Somebody's gonna say check this out. You're 499 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: losing words every single time you get down the line, 500 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: and that's what happens. I went through this with my 501 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: charger situation. When I got released, Long story short, I 502 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: left the building shaking hands. Hey, Marcel's good job. We 503 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: understand what you were going through. A lot of double teams, 504 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: triple teams. Hey wasn't on you, We didn't have the 505 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: same personnel, blah blah blah. And then I'm easily available. 506 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: I lived right in the city. I lived in La 507 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: I was back and forth, easily available. Did I get 508 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: any phone calls? Did I get any phone calls? Why, 509 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: let's be real. Behind closed doors, they were working on 510 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: a plan, and then when they came out from those 511 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: closed doors, they wanted to execute that plan. So the 512 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: way that you execute that plan is two ways. One 513 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: you don't let the other side know you're planning, or 514 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: two you act like you try to get in touch 515 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: with them, but you really didn't try to get in 516 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: touch with them. So obviously, in that situation, you break ties. 517 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: I had. That situation happened in my last deal with 518 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: Fox to some degree. Agent was calling, they didn't respond. 519 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: They would call back the agent, and all of a sudden, 520 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: when he called back, they were like, well, what does 521 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: he really want? He was like the same thing we 522 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: said yesterday. Here are the two worst words you hear 523 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: in any negotiation. Yeah, but those are the two worst words. 524 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: And Aaron Rodgers is here, and yeah, but you know 525 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: why because yeah, of course you want Aaron Rodgers. Of 526 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: course Fox wanted me. Man. The thing is, yeah, but oh, 527 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,479 Speaker 1: Marcella's want to do a show where he talking about 528 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: transgenders one day and then the next day he talked 529 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: about rappers, and then the next day he talking about 530 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers on the same show. Really, and I know 531 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: that didn't fifth their business model. So yeah, but and 532 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: how much does he want? He wants more? Yeah, but 533 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: and he wants to talk more. Yeah, but and that's 534 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: what happens Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, but because they got Jordan 535 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: loved there. And when you have Jordan loved there, it's 536 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: time to just figure out what it really is. Who 537 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: is Jordan love versus always chasing Aaron Rodgers And it's 538 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: ever changing demands. I totally understand that. But when you 539 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,719 Speaker 1: become a veteran of this game, you get into that 540 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: place where you want new challenges, and Aaron Rodgers wants 541 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: a new challenge and I'm sure he's presented himself with 542 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: those new challenges time and time again in Green Bay, 543 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: but now he's looking elsewhere for that new challenge, that 544 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: breath of fresh air, new challenge kind of similar. I 545 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: understand it totally. So it's just simple, y'all, do not 546 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: get caught up in this back and forth. If they 547 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: were really interested in each other, mutually interested in each 548 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: other out, there'd be no issue at all, because just 549 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: like y'all, if she's saying, yeah, let's go out tomorrow 550 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: and you wanna go out and herd them all, guess 551 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: what you're doing them all? Y'all hanging out. So that's 552 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: all this is. This situation is this crazy? I'm gonna 553 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: keep following it, but I'm just laughing how they playing 554 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: these real petty dating child games with all this at Steak, 555 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: especially when you know Aaron Rodgers is one of the greats. 556 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: All Right, every show we ended with what whyly ism? 557 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: It's time to go there? Now? Oh man, I can't 558 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: get this song right, y'all gotta help me in the 559 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: comments with this something. All right, let's do this quote. 560 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: Don't double down on dumb, don't double down on dumb. 561 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:46,959 Speaker 1: All first, like I get this run down, see out 562 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: of my head. Dumb dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dum dumb. 563 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: All right, don't double down on dumb. Y'all know what 564 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: I'm talking about, right, None of us are perfect. We 565 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: all make mistakes. Raise my head and higher than yours 566 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: because I make a ton of them. The goal is 567 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: to not make the same mistake again, right, that's the goal. 568 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: And even when you do, you understand that that is 569 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: really bad. Why because the consequences are exponentially greater. Right, 570 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: you mess up the first time, even with your kids, 571 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: they mess up and you do something. I told you 572 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: to put that down, all right, he puts it down. 573 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: He does it again. Didn't I tell you to put 574 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: it down? Yo? We just went from zero to one 575 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: hundred real quick. That's how it works in the real 576 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: world as well. So don't make the same mistake again. 577 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: Tap out switch lanes. Your problems should be more diverse 578 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: than just the same one, right, like your Your problems 579 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: almost should be like your investment portfolio. It needs to 580 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: be diverse problems like you don't want to be there, jo, 581 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: He keep messing up this exact same way all the 582 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: damn time. Spram around, right, don't double down on dumb, 583 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: especially when the ego gets involved, because a lot of 584 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: times you double down on dumb because you got stuck. 585 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: Who hasn't who hasn't got into an argument, who hasn't 586 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: been that person? Just like, oh man, that's stuff. But 587 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: now I can't look wrong. I gotta sound right. And 588 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: then you just start trying to find words to connect 589 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: some type of logic to the dumb shit you're talking 590 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: about right there in that moment, right, and it doesn't 591 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: add up. And that is officially somebody who is doubling 592 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: down on dumb. So let's catch ourselves. We usually call 593 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: it the ego pride, whatever it may be. All y'all, 594 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: let's work together on this one. Don't double down on dumb, 595 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: all right, that's gonna do it for more too. It 596 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: checked the show notes for all the information on our 597 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: topics to day. You want to keep the conversation going, 598 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: how know you do? Let's talk find me on all 599 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: socials at Marcellos Walley. That's right. More to it is 600 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 1: a production of Dan Patrick Productions. That Dude Entertainment in 601 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: Workhouse Media show as executive produced by Dan Patrick, Marcel 602 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: S Wally, that's me. That dude was Paul Anderson and 603 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: Nick Pinella. Marcell Sally, thanks for listening, Thanks for those reviews. 604 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: Keep them coming, man, I read every single one of them. 605 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: Reviews all what I got in one hundred and eighty 606 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: two of something Crazy. I love y'all, man. There's more 607 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 1: coming from more to it. Talk to you, Hella soon 608 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: got