1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with her radio. Hey Bob, Hey, 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: how you doing? Man? Good? Nice to meet you, well, 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: nice to meet Where are you? Nice to meet you too. 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: Where are you right now? I'm in California right now 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: seeing some family. Oh very nice? Is this where you're 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: from originally? Or yeah? Originally from my Anaheim? So southern 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: California boy, and uh then just been living in Texas. 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: But come on, everybody else tries to move to California, 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: you move away, look at you exactly. I'm in Austin, 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: um right now, keeping it weird in Austin. Ye've been 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: isn't that the isn't that what they say? Oh, I've 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: been a ton. Yeah. I used to go to south 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: By Southwest all the time. I loved it. Yeah, is 14 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: fun a cl all those wild events. So Zach, you 15 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: need to know they're calling this o G and the 16 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: new Guy? Did you know that? I like it? First 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: and foremost? Did you even ever even hear of my 18 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: season of the Bachelor? So my name is Bob Guinny. 19 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: I was Bachelor's season four trist Wren's reject who was 20 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: given its own season of the show disastrous season. By 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: the way, did you happen to see that one. No, 22 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: I haven't watched I haven't watched much of any uh 23 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: of any of the previous Bachelor's seasons, to be honest, 24 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: but you know I did my research on you a 25 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: little bit. I did you're the Bachelor before Jesse? Yes? Yes, 26 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: And Jesse is a good friend of mine. I paved 27 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: the road for that, man, I will tell you. Suggest 28 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: and I have a lot of mutual friends, and um, 29 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 1: oddly enough, I mean I really like him, but we've 30 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: never actually hung out in person like we've met. I 31 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: think we met a few times, like very briefly, and um, 32 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: but I think he's doing a great job as a 33 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: host of the show. I'm glad you guys are friends. 34 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: It's it makes it easier, right to navigate that whole thing. Well, 35 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you know, you walked so he 36 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: could run, so honestly, like he has so tell you, buddy, 37 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: Uh No, it was. It was great having Jesse's support. 38 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: I mean I got to know him a little bit 39 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: on the Bachelorette, you know, here and there when we're traveling. 40 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: But then we really had the chance obviously this season 41 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: because we're together a lot and you know, he always had, 42 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: you know, pieces of advice and just always was someone 43 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: to talk to constantly, and and you know, he would 44 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: give me full feedback and bounce ideas and we do 45 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: that back and forth quite a bit. But him and 46 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: I are pretty similar, like with the sports background. So 47 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: half the time I was just talking about football. Talk 48 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: to your sports background. I didn't know that I played 49 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: college football, UM which cal Pauly, Yeah, I know it. Well. Yeah, 50 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: so I played there for five years. It was an 51 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: offensive lineman, so never really got to touch the ball 52 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: or do any cool things in the end zone. But 53 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: still love football to death. And him and I just 54 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: really talked about that a lot. Oh that's great. Yeah, 55 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: I played college football too. I played Michigan eight UM. 56 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: Much like Jesse. I was a quarterback. Unlike Jesse, I 57 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,119 Speaker 1: didn't play. But it's nice, uh that one of us 58 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: of the three, or I guess two of us are 59 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: the three. Actually we're players. Now I feel really bad 60 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: about myself. Let's move on. Let's not talk about sports anymore, 61 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: all right, So let's talk about first and foremost. Um. 62 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: You brought it up about Um that you know you 63 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: had met him when you were on the Bachelotte. So 64 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: you were on the season the first season, I believe 65 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: where we had two bachelorettes, right, we had Rachel and Gabby. 66 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: It was a second season, like I said, you were 67 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: on the second season where we had two bachelorets with 68 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: Rachel and Gaby. So I mean the first thing that 69 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: goes once you're an old bachelor, your memory is the 70 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: first thing that you lose. Um, So, how was that experience? 71 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: And like, I mean you you chose to be in 72 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: the Rachel camp. Correct? Correct? Correct? I mean that would 73 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: be an awkward experience. I would think that that's it 74 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: just seems weird to me. Well, it definitely was, uh, 75 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: since it was still a first experience altogether, you know, 76 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: the first time ever being in this world, and and 77 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: it was you know, unique, but it was all I knew. 78 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: So I didn't know what it would look like with 79 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: just one bachelor it really but um, at first it 80 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: was a little interesting. Didn't know how to um, like 81 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: I said, approached something like this. But for my case, 82 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: it was real apparent very early that Rachel and I 83 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: did have a connection to where it was like, okay, 84 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: it almost doesn't matter, um that there's this two person dynamic, 85 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: but for many it did cause issues. So I could imagine. Yeah, 86 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: I mean that I couldn't even I got out of 87 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: the limit with Trista, so it was all eyes on, 88 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: you know, one person, and at least you knew this 89 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: is the person I'm gonna you know, be trying to 90 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: figure out how to get to know her and everything else. 91 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: I mean you had a little different dynamic going on. Yeah, yeah, 92 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: well with with Rachel. I mean it was a few 93 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: days in to the event, but like not the event, 94 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: the experience, but you talking about walking out of the 95 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: lima and just being like shocked and you know, nervous 96 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: with all the cameras and you're at the mansion and 97 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: then you have two very beautiful women right in front 98 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: of you that is terrified and you're like, okay, here's 99 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: my one shot. You know, at least remember my name. 100 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: And I couldn't even remember my own name. I actually 101 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: forgot it and uh totally you know, shop the bet 102 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: on that one. But I do that often. So but 103 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: it's my age more so, so let me ask you this, like, 104 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: when you get out of the lima, do you do anything, 105 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: because I know people do stuff, right they get out 106 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: of the car. They try to do something to make 107 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: themselves memorable. Did you do anything that made you memorable 108 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: in that moment? Not at all, Not at all. Actually, 109 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: you know, leading up to it, I was, you know, 110 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: trying to think of something creative or something fun, like 111 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: for something wild, because that's you know, what people typically do, 112 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: and I I'm someone that just like I think I 113 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: got in my own head. I was so nervous. Um Like, 114 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: I saw the cameras and I just like freaked out 115 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, I think the 116 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: best way for me, you know, to give this a 117 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 1: fair shot is just be myself and meet the women 118 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: you know, as they are as I am, and not 119 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: do any kind of you know, gimmicks or anything like that. 120 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: And you know, through conversation hopefully that we'll have, you'll 121 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: get to know me. But I mean I still went 122 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: up there. I couldn't tell you what I actually said. 123 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: It was all a blur. And uh, I mean it 124 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: kept me around at least night one, right, So yeah, 125 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: well they kept a lot longer than that actually right now, Yeah, yeah, 126 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: quite quite some time after. But for you, remember what 127 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: your limo entrance was when you were on the Bachelor. Yeah, 128 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: you know, I was. I was basic, man, I mean 129 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: it was it was actually what I did inside the 130 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: mansion that sort of went next level. But we you know, 131 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: this was so early on when I was on the 132 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: show that no one really had a gimmick. In fact, 133 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: I was just telling the producers here tonight that the 134 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: guy that got out of the car with something special, 135 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: which was actually quite nice. Um, he had gone to Tiffany's. 136 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: He had gotten this you know bracelet and you know, 137 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: engraved with Trista's name on it, and we all looked 138 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: at him like he was just the devil. I mean 139 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: I remember thinking this guy, like, where's his head, man, 140 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: what's he doing? And um, it was it was almost 141 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: I think, probably jealousy more than anything that he had 142 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: thought of something that we didn't. But it was one 143 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: of those things where you know, and he almost he 144 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: kind of became the villain of the season, frankly, um, 145 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: because none of us had anything else going in the 146 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: front door. You know, we were all just like, Hi, 147 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: I'm Bob, nice to meet you. Um. Now, granted, once 148 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: we got inside, uh, you know, there's there's a lot 149 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: of stories about that one. I mean, I I was 150 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: you know, bringing up my my study of martial arts. Uh, 151 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: you know, which I which I did extensively. Uh. I 152 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: was doing TIBO at the time with Billy Blanks. Uh. 153 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: You know, it's a big deal as an infomercial. It 154 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: was probably outdated, but it was at the time. It 155 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: was a spectacular exercise regimen um and I just thought 156 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: it really made me somebody special. But it was funny. 157 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: We I mean, we were just a bunch of dudes 158 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: hanging out. And I think that was what made our 159 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: show special at the time, was the guys got along 160 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: so great and we weren't caddy with one another. It 161 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: was a very different environment at that time. How was 162 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: it with you, Like, what what was your dynamic with 163 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: the guys Once you're all in the house, everyone's sort 164 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: of hanging out. I mean, did you guys get along 165 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: or was it immediately something you know, a little friction 166 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: going on or anything like that. I mean, I'd say 167 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: for the most part, Uh, everyone got along. I think 168 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: everyone recognizes that it's such a crazy experience going on 169 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: and you're trying to just take it in and you 170 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: almost look four friends in this. Yeah, I think you 171 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: have the only one that's freaking out right now. Actually, 172 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: very early on, UM established a bunch of friends. Um, 173 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: you know, one in particular was was Nate, and Nate 174 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: was you know on that past season. And there was 175 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: a moment that night when we were taking you know, 176 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: the photo you do right before the road ceremony with 177 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: everyone and in the lead, uh, Nate and I as 178 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: well maybe another twenty other guys didn't have the opportunity 179 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: to speak with either of Gabby and Rachel just because 180 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: the night just took so long. Wait, so on the 181 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: first night you didn't speak to either lady, Nope. So dude, 182 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: you just got you got your rose based on the 183 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: fact that you are just jacked in a good looking dude. 184 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: Let's be honest. I think rose. You got the pity rose. 185 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: It was a pity rose. And I'm standing outside with 186 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: Nate and we just look at each other and we're like, wow, 187 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: we really just quarantined to just meet a bunch of dudes. 188 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: We're going home. It's been a really fun you know, 189 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: four hours. Yeah, it's been great night. Oh my god, 190 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: did you get a rose as well? He did? Yeah, yeah, 191 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: he did, and did a lot of the other guys 192 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: that we all got pity roses. But um, everyone you know, 193 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: you know, still in contact still, which is really cool. Yeah, 194 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: it's been some time since then, and got my core 195 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: group of buddies. Um, but everyone's really cool with each other. 196 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: All right, So let's let's let's skip a little level here, 197 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: so you go through the whole experience. Next thing, you know, 198 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: they reached out there like all right, Zach, you're gonna 199 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: be the bachelor, right, so now you have this whole 200 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: thing that you've been through, the whole rigamarole um, you know. 201 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of emotions involved 202 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: in that that comes to either like we're gonna have 203 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: you be the new guy. Is it excitement that you're 204 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: hit with? Is it fear? Is it are you fired up? 205 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: Are you piste off? I mean, where what are your 206 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: emotional you know, feelings on this whole thing. I was 207 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: feeling a lot of different things. At first. It was, 208 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: to be honest, confusion. It was like really like, okay, 209 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: I'm honored. But also before you even get there, were 210 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: you confused about the night you didn't get a rose? 211 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: Like where was that whole what was your whole emotional 212 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: thing that set you up for this so with what 213 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: had happened on The Bachelor that season of going home 214 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: after that, like I needed time to just be away, 215 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: like family, process what happened in like and kind of 216 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: just recover from that whole experience of traveling the world 217 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: and and you know dating someone with other suitors and 218 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: then it you know, not being us like taking that 219 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 1: in and then you know, being asked weeks maybe a 220 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: little under a month um if I'd be interested in 221 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,239 Speaker 1: considering being the Bachelor. I mean it was like, okay, 222 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm getting over what, you know, being on TV, like 223 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: I like and and you know, having a broken heart, 224 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: Like how can I just hop right back in? Was 225 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: my initial thought. But it was also you know flattery. 226 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, like that's that's really cool that 227 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: they're considering me for this, like what once in a 228 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: lifetime opportunity. So you know, after separate conversations, I was like, 229 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: I would be kicking myself if I didn't, you know, 230 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: take this shot, because I know I'm ready for it, 231 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: but like this is this is totally different now, Like 232 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: I'm not yeah, does that going on that experience now 233 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: when you look back at where Rachel and Gabby where 234 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: like you know, if we cut to the end of 235 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: this whole thing, it's got to give you a different 236 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: feeling as far as how that whole process goes, right, 237 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you you get it now. It's kind of 238 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: a difficult thing to go through right on either side 239 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: of it was tough on your end, I'm sure, but 240 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: now that you're the bachelor guy and you're doing the same, Like, 241 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: my biggest fear was, oh my god, I'm gonna hurt 242 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: people who don't deserve to be hurt, you know, I mean, 243 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: and it almost makes you feel weird saying it because 244 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: you're like, are they going to be hurt? Should they 245 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: even give a shit about me? But you're, you know, 246 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: you're in that mindset of I don't want to hurt people, 247 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: you know. That was that was a big thing for 248 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: me because I know what it feels like on that end, 249 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: and I think that it helps, you know, having that 250 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: that time there to where, you know, being in the 251 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: bachelor role. If the whole dynamic is different, like if 252 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: you feel a lot of pressure constantly and I'm you know, 253 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: tack that on with not a lot of you know, rest, 254 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: and you know you're you're going a million miles and 255 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: you know other other people's feelings are at stake like that. Like, 256 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: like you said, it's kind of weird to assume, but 257 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: sometimes you have to because you have to make your 258 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 1: decisions off of everything around you. You know, first and 259 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: most important it is like what your heart's telling you. 260 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: But second is like, how can you go about this? 261 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: You know the right way if there is a right way? Um, 262 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: and it's stressful, like and you can always second guess 263 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: and and always question. But like that was the biggest 264 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: part for me. It was like, it's a totally new dynamic. 265 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: How long have you been done filming so far? I 266 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: mean we wrapped up just over two months ago. All right, 267 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: so you're and now you're watching the season unfold I am, 268 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: I am. Yeah, you're watching it by yourself in your 269 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: room home alone at night, or you got like a 270 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: posse of people. I recommend you deal with friends, buddy, 271 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: because it sucks if you do it by yourself. No. No, Well, 272 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: the first episode, you know, we had a cool premier party, 273 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: had family and friends come, friends from the show, um, 274 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: and producers and that was really cool experience. Uh. For 275 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: future episodes, UM, very low key, I'm gonna says by 276 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: episode five. It's a pretty lonely experience. At least that 277 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: was my experience. Yeah. Yeah, And I think, like, I'm 278 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: not someone who likes to watch myself on TV anymore, 279 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: Like where I hear my own voice and I'm like, oh, 280 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: I sound like I see it. And then I'm like, Okay, 281 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: I'm watching myself romantically. We're watching me do something good 282 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: at something bad, this and that, and I just feel 283 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: like I ever relive it, and I'm like, I'd rather 284 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: not you know, deal with um you know the comments 285 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: like I like to just watch it, Okay, cool, I 286 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: remember it, that's exactly how it went, or you know, 287 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: and then move on to the next one. I'm not 288 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: a big watch party guy. Watched with a bunch of people. No, 289 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: it's difficult, I know. I mean I can only imagine 290 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: what it's like. I mean, dude, to to date myself 291 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: and this is horrible. But when I was the bachelor, um, 292 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: there wasn't even social media, right, so I didn't have 293 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: to deal with it. There were chat rooms which seemed 294 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: off putting and you know, um a lot of gossip mags, 295 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: but there there there wasn't like on the on the 296 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: button moment by moment dissection of everything I did right, 297 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: And you know, I'd watch the show and I'd be like, God, 298 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: I really that's how I kiss. This is crazy, you 299 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: know that? Do I always talk like this and I 300 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: always hemming and hawing. I mean, I would dissect myself. 301 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: No one could critique me more than me on my 302 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: own worst critic um. And even though I know you're 303 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: from the West Coast, you seem kind of like a 304 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: Midwest guy to me in a weird way, which I 305 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: take that as a I mean that I should say, 306 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: is a very big compliment. Right. They don't say they 307 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: say Midwestern values, right, they don't say West Coast values, 308 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: they say Midwestern values. So you're getting a compliment from 309 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: me right now. And I hope you can take it 310 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: as such. But I think that it's got to be 311 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: tough because you're watching yourself. You're like, how did I 312 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: end up here? And right? And then the whole thing 313 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: is it's unfolding. I mean, I'm sure you hear the noise, right. 314 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: There's a lot of people saying things way better about 315 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: you than you could ever deserve, and a lot of 316 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: people saying just garbage about you that you also don't deserve. 317 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: And it's hard, right because you hear the good stuff 318 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: and that kind of goes in one year and not 319 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: the other, and the bad stuff will stick with you 320 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: for months. How have you been dealing with that? The 321 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: social media stuff is just tragic? Like how do you? 322 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: I don't mean that specific to you, I mean that 323 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: just in general. I get it all the time too. 324 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: I don't even know how I deal with it, But 325 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: how do you deal with it? Because it's got to 326 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: be magnified for you. Yeah, that's a good question because 327 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: I think it's constantly evolving on how to tackle that, 328 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: because like just over a year ago, you know, I 329 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: was working, you know, my my tech job in Austin, 330 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: going about life, you know, not someone that's even big 331 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: onto social media or understands it, let alone, Like I 332 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: don't even know how to properly like post photos at 333 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: the time. And now I'm in the world where, like 334 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: every ones on social media, everything you do is critiqued. 335 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 1: Now my love life is being critiquedum and everyone has 336 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: an opinion, and everyone fair like absolutely has an opinion, 337 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 1: and like seeing the the tough or hurtful comments, initially 338 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: we're really like, oh my god, like how could someone 339 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: like say that they don't know me this and it 340 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: did bother me early on? Um, and I don't know, 341 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: it took just maybe time or you know, just through 342 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: you know, confidence, or or just like seeking advice from 343 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: from family and friends was like okay, you know you're 344 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: never gonna appease everyone. Um. Also everything in a sense 345 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: with like short media and this is like with a 346 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: lot of things in general are pretty short lived. Um. 347 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: And you know, yeah, the next thing right away, right, 348 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: I mean instantly, if I get in my own head 349 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: about it, then it's just like I'm gonna be you know, 350 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: bummed out. And I'm not a guy that's ever bumped out. 351 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: Like I'm very positive. But then when I'm like, oh, 352 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: these people are trying to hurt me, I'm like they've 353 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: probably got something else going on in their life to 354 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: where they feel they need hurt. So that's how I 355 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: rationalize and justify it. But and you're a better man 356 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: than me. I still grind myself over the coals for 357 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: half the things that are said about me. But you know, 358 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: interestingly enough, someone gave me a great piece of advice 359 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: once and they're like consider the source, right, So, like 360 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: you're living your life and then you have these other 361 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 1: people who are commenting on you living your life. Right, 362 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: It's like, how often are you online commenting on someone 363 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: else living their lives? Probably never? Right? So who are 364 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: these people? And you know, hey, thank you for you know, 365 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: paying attention, but let's be kind, right, We're still human beings. 366 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: We start. You know, this is still us putting it 367 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: out there, and clearly you're someone who's you know, going 368 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: through an emotional experience. I mean, what you've done is genuine. 369 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: People are I'm gonna I mean, I will tell you this, 370 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: twenty years after I was the Bachelor, You're gonna still 371 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: ask you the question is it real? You know? Is 372 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: it all scripted? And you know I always say, I'm like, well, 373 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 1: the moments are scripted, but the emotions are real, you know, 374 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: So you're still feeling that stuff. So I'm sorry. You 375 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: gotta deal with it. I mean, I didn't have to 376 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: deal with it. I don't have to do it at 377 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: the magnitude that you all do. I mean on the 378 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: show today. I mean still, you know, twenty years later, 379 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 1: I think I have like a hundred ten thousand followers. 380 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: There's something that's pretty paltry. But um, I've probably have 381 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: worked really hard for those hundred and ten. I think 382 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: my mom's probably got like seventy ghost accounts. But the 383 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: point is no, The point is, you know, it's like 384 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: you go through this experience and it's tough, man, and 385 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: there You're never gonna please everybody. So I mean, at 386 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: the end of the day, you know, what are you 387 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: gonna do? But okay, let's talk about your season now. 388 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: So you come on as a bachelor. From what I understand, UM, 389 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: I may have missed a few finer points of this, 390 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: but it sounds to me like on the opening night, 391 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: one young lady um walks up and licks your earhole. Basically, 392 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: this gives you like tongue jacks your earbox, is what 393 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: I've been told. Yeah, any words exchanged and he like, hey, 394 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: how are you? Or she just walks up and it's 395 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: boom shaka ka right in the ear drum I from 396 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: because I think I would have married her. I'm totally kidding, 397 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: totally kidding. Well, we're watching it and then try and 398 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: remember that exact moment that I was, what I was feeling, 399 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: and like, like, first off, that takes you know, Cohona's 400 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: to do that um, could you imagine a poor dad. 401 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 1: He's just like, oh, look, I'm gorgeous. Little girl. Here 402 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: she comes, like a moment and then just tongue tongue dart. 403 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: His buddies at home are like, really, Jim, this is 404 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: what we're doing. This is what little Debbie's doing the night. Honestly, 405 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: my my facial reaction, I think gives it away of 406 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: just like I trying to hide, like it like with 407 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: a laugh, Like I put my head back and opened 408 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: my mouth like I'm laughing thinking it's funny, but it's 409 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 1: actually like like disgusting. Like I'm like, why, why you 410 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: can't You're like, I don't know, Okay, I mean I'm 411 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: sure it piques your curiosity for a hot second, but 412 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: it I mean, I don't know you at all, but 413 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: from what I can tell from our initial interview, you 414 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: strike me as one of those guys. I mean, I 415 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: can tell you. When I was on the show, all 416 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: I could think of, Oh my god, I don't want 417 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: to embarrass my family, Like I don't want my mom 418 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: and dad to have to go to the grocery store 419 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: and be ashamed of me. Right, So if the girl 420 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: walks up, she's you know, making out with your ear 421 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: drum and you're like, oh, yeah, this is first impression 422 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: rose all the way. I mean, your parents would be 423 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: so disappointed, right, So I get it. I mean, but 424 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: you said her home, you fast tractor to the limo. 425 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: From what I gather, no that that was not a 426 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: fast track to the limo. No, I I did not 427 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: give her a rose that night. But there were, Um, 428 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: there was another instance of there was one instance of 429 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: I'm a fast track to the limo, but someone else 430 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: not for ear looking well, tell me about it. What 431 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: was the fast track? Uh? So, you know, a night 432 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: one and um, you know, had the opportunity to to 433 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: speak with one of the women in the house and 434 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: we had a conversation and um, you know I went 435 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: pretty well. Um, and she decides to pull me again 436 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: for another conversation. I think that there were some feelings 437 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: of jealousy because she saw that, um, I had kissed 438 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,239 Speaker 1: other women and she wasn't one of them, and so 439 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: she wanted to pull me to get her kiss. And 440 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: she pulls me aside and we're doing like these like 441 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: dances or something, and she pulls me in like for 442 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: a hug. I'm going in for a hug and she 443 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: goes in and pulls me in and making a kiss happen. Um, 444 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: and that did kind of rub me the wrong way. Um, 445 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: like you can't force anything, Like, you can't force it 446 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: if it's not there, and you know, you know had 447 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: that you know, tough decision and talking with her saying like, hey, 448 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: we can't force that, like what like if it's not here, 449 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: it's not here, And I don't want to waste your 450 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: time in the moment you did like you kind of 451 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: like you sort of pulled back and like this is 452 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: not happening. Well, so for it happens. And I'm like 453 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: processing like like did that kiss just happen like that? 454 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: Like is that how it really went? And I remember 455 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: talking to Jesse about it actually funny enough because he asked, 456 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: He's like, dude, like what you know what was with 457 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: that that kiss? It didn't look like you really wanted 458 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: to And I was like, you know what I I 459 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: you know, I I respect you know, her pulling me 460 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: again because you know that that takes guts And then 461 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: most people don't, you know, some people will only get 462 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: you know, one time, and some don't get any time. 463 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: On on night one and he's like, what do you 464 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: want to do? And I was like, what I think. 465 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: I think it's best to send her home, like I 466 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: don't want, you know, to lie to her or hold 467 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: her here if there isn't a connection, And there clearly 468 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: wasn't that spark when? So that was that was interesting. 469 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: You never know what you're gonna you're gonna get on 470 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: night one, like anything like Gritty all that stuff. Gritty 471 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: is a good That's a tough dance. I mean, if 472 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: they perfected, I believe they should get fast jacked the 473 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: night too. That's just me. But I'm not a great dancer, 474 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: and so I value things and others that I don't possess, 475 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: you know, right, I can't judge it Like who I 476 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 1: gritty on TV? And it looks absolutely terrible, So I 477 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: can't someone pulls it off in an evening gown. Moving 478 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: on next round. Did you ever watch the show previously 479 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: being on it? Did you know the whole drill? I'd 480 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: probably watched about a handful of episodes before, but my 481 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: my mom and my two younger sisters are die hard 482 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: fans of the show, so you know, growing up, you know, 483 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: I walked downstairs see them watching the show and of 484 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: course it would just have my attention drawn in uh 485 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: to watch it, but you know, not consecutively by any means. 486 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: But you know, I had a rough idea of what 487 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: to expect. Um. But you know, my sisters obviously were like, uh, 488 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: you know, given me as many planners as they could 489 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: well were some of the psy anything's sticking out right 490 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: now that you listen to or any of that you 491 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: didn't and you wish you would have because obviously they 492 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 1: know how this thing goes. Yeah. So actually, funny enough, 493 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: my sister she told me right before. I don't remember 494 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: if it was before batchelor Red or Bachelor, but um, 495 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: she said, don't cry. And I'm an emotional guy, like 496 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: by nature, I'm someone who wears my heart of my sleep. 497 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: It's encouraged in my house, like show your emotion like 498 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: good or bad. Um, you know, not worth holding in. 499 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: And she said don't cry, and I was like, okay, 500 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: I won't. Yeah, and that's quick to a sizzle real 501 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: if you cry, man, we all know that, I know. 502 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: And just you know, as Jesse said, this is the 503 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: most emotional season for the Bachelor so far, So I'll 504 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: just leave it at that. She didn't listen to her body. 505 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: It's impossible. It's impossible, you know. I gotta be honest. 506 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 1: For Ben Higgins. It was also impossible that dude cries 507 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: more than anybody ever saying, but he isn't a emotional 508 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: and lovely man, and I think that you'll probably have 509 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: that same kind of staying power. I didn't cry. I 510 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: didn't cry, and you didn't know who the hell I was, 511 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: So there you go. I probably once in my lfe 512 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: no I cry a ton Are you kidding me? I 513 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 1: am the most emotional disaster um back then, though it 514 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: didn't fit the mold. You gotta remember what I did 515 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: the show. They it was a very you know, we 516 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: didn't film stuff that didn't fit the mold of what 517 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 1: we were trying to present. So I could have been 518 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: falling like a baby and they'd be like, all right, 519 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: just give him some time, let's dry him off, get 520 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 1: him back in there and make him look stoic, you know. 521 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: So it was. It wasn't as emotionally raw. Reality television 522 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: wasn't as real back then, let's just put it that way. 523 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: I didn't feel that way anyway. Yeah, it didn't feel 524 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 1: that way. So one thing that I dealt with from 525 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: being the bachelor. Um, that I think is probably something 526 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: that is universal, regardless of social media or not. I'll 527 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: never forget it. First time I walk into my hometown supermarket, 528 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: I'm with my mom. I was just telling this story 529 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 1: earlier that you know, my mom would go to the 530 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: still twenty years later, she'll go to the chicken section, 531 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: and people like, according to my mom, anyway, aren't you 532 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: bachelor Bob's mom? And my mom was like, I am 533 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: it just Oh, everyone drives me crazy bringing it up. Yeah, 534 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: I can be in the same supermarket. No one speaks 535 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: to me. So the hardest adjustment though, was seeing your 536 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: personal life all over the tabloids, right like all of 537 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: our US weekly, People, Magazine, Star, National choir whatever it is, um, 538 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: social media. I'm sure how has that been for you? Like, 539 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: how has that adjustment been for you to all of 540 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: a sudden go from being, you know, a guy that's 541 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: working hard. You know, I mean you you know, you're 542 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 1: an athlete. So the mindset of you know, keep your 543 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: head down, work hard, and good things will happen. Right. 544 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: We all have heard those from our coaches over the years, 545 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 1: and um, now all of a sudden you know, you're 546 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: entire personal life and every decision you make is being 547 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: dissected by body relationship experts and you know all this 548 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: kind of crap. I mean, how has that been for 549 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: you as a as a an individual and how are 550 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: you handling it? Yeah, it's a good question. It is interesting, 551 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: you know with life now outside of the show. Um, 552 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: you know, similar to you know, your story with with 553 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: you your mom at the grocery store, like you know, 554 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: going to most places, um, you know, being recognized as 555 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: a weird feeling because I'm kind of a private person 556 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: by nature, and I like, I think it's it's really 557 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: cool when people like come support or or whant I 558 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: get a photo with me? But it's just still such 559 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: a crazy concept that people want to do that in 560 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: the first place, or people want to write an article 561 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: about what clothes I wore on my last Instagram post 562 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: or like well, like it's it goes back to the 563 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: opinions thing. It's like, Okay, everyone's going to have an opinion. 564 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: I get that, and and it's up to me like 565 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: if I want to read those comments or not. But 566 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: like for me, I I I welcome you know everyone 567 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: with with open arms. You know, when I meet people 568 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: out and about and you know, whether it's at the 569 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: gym or at the grocery store or this and that, 570 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: and just I don't know, just take the time to 571 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,239 Speaker 1: say high or get to know them, um, because it is. 572 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: It is a cool opportunity because I know, like when I, um, 573 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: you know, growing up, would like run into someone that 574 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: I have seen it on TV and I would like 575 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: love to meet them and get a picture with them, 576 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: and you know, it would be the biggest gut punch 577 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: it They said, no, oh sure, yeah. You always love 578 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: it if there's someone who you hope that you think 579 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: they are right, Like you meet Tom Hanks, you wanted 580 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:26,959 Speaker 1: to be the greatest guy you've ever met in your 581 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: life because he seems like he is. You know it. 582 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: He's such a bomb if he wasn't, you know. But 583 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: there's a lot of pressure on those guys too. I 584 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: met Bill Murray in the airport today and Bill Murray 585 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: was amazing. I mean, he was so nice. Oh yeah, yeah, 586 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: and it was really cool and I was thankful because 587 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: you know, he had no clue who the hell I was, 588 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,719 Speaker 1: nor should he, but I definitely knew who he was 589 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: and it was nice that he gave me thirty seconds 590 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: of his time, you know, and that's all it takes. 591 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: It's not that hard to be kind to people. It's 592 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: pretty easy, really, You're never that busy in fact that 593 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: it's just being kind, you know, like just expect that. 594 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: You know, not everyone has that out you know, outlook 595 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: on life. But as long as you keep that yourself, 596 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: you'll be good. That's yeah. So have you ever heard 597 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: of the term like grease in the wheel, like getting 598 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,479 Speaker 1: ready for something? You so, first night of the Bachelor, 599 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: you're getting ready to you know, all the limbos of 600 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: pull up? What did you do to grease the wheel? 601 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: What did you do to like get yourself ready? Anything specific? Um, 602 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,959 Speaker 1: there's a lot of pacing. Yeah. Any any beverage choices 603 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: that maybe helped you get to the right place? Quite 604 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: a few? Um? I had, I had a few, uh 605 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: a few beverages. Um, any of that are you know 606 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: Mexican in in in uh origin, perhaps like tequila or 607 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: anything like that. Absolutely, maybe maybe two or three if 608 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: we're honest. And then you know, you gotta have some 609 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: you know, artificial caffeine in there somewhere because it's a 610 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: late it is late, and a lot of blasting of 611 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: just like the most ridiculous music you can and just 612 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: like get the nerves out some way, you know, and 613 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: back to its Tequia. It's always tequila money. That's the 614 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: only way to Yeah. I like it. I like the 615 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: way you got there, though you took a long road, 616 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: and I appreciate it. So Okay. One of the things 617 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: that we had back in the day when I did 618 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: this show was a deliberation room, right, so they had 619 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: all the women that were there on that night of 620 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,479 Speaker 1: the contail party or whatever we call it. They had 621 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: all of their photos on like a wall, like a 622 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: viewing wall, and I would go in and I would deliberate. 623 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: Now we just look at these photos as if to 624 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: ponder who I was going to give a roast to, 625 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: because they were all right there on the cusp. And 626 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: I remember looking at all these and I would take time. 627 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: I'd look at each one. Some of them, I grabbed 628 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: the frame and I'd stare at it for a minute. 629 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: I put it back. Do they still do that or 630 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: they skipped that part of it, because it was it 631 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: was really interesting time for at the time Chris Harrison 632 00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: and I had to walk in there and just have 633 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: me stare a blank wall. Yeah, something just like that, 634 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,719 Speaker 1: because obviously a night one like there's no way you 635 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: can remember everyone's names with the faith, and like you 636 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: have so many conversations and you're trying to you know, 637 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: calm your own nerves and you need to go and 638 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: just breathe in another room and just you know, figure 639 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: it out. For lack of better terms, h yeah. So yeah, 640 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: there would be several times without like throughout the night 641 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: going to a room and looking at the little you know, 642 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: cards with the name, and you know, sometimes it would 643 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: just be the easiest, like like you just follow your 644 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: gut on that and you're like, yep, something well seconds 645 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: with this person. Yep, I don't know what it is. 646 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but yes, And then there's some 647 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: that you know, you have to deliverate a little bit 648 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: more on and and and figure out. But that was 649 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: something new that I didn't know how like you do it, 650 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: because I was fully prepared to come in and be like, 651 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: all right, I'm remembering all the names. We're doing it. 652 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: That's a little false because there's no shot I would 653 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: ever be able to actually come on. I'm a competitive guy, 654 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: so I gotta tell you, um, on my first night's 655 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: rose ceremony, I had I believe it was twenty eight 656 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: or thirty ladies there. And I had found out that 657 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: Alex Michelle, out of the fifteen women that he got 658 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: to keep on the first night, he had remembered twelve names. 659 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: So my goal was to remember all fifteen. So I 660 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: created a song in my head, and I got through it. 661 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: I got through all fifteen. However, what a lot of 662 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: people don't know a little a little sidebar is I 663 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: was nervous, right, So I was holding the rose. Uh, 664 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: let me see if I can hold. I was holding 665 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: the rose like this, right, So I have a rose, 666 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: and I was like Debbie, right, and then the next 667 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: one Jenny or you know. I'm just using random names, 668 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: of course, to protect the innocent. And I and I 669 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: remember the next one. I go to say the name 670 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: and the rose the top of the rose falls off 671 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: and no one knows what to do, and I think, 672 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: oh my god, this is a real show. So I 673 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: can't It's reality television. I can't waiver. So I hole 674 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: hold and I'm like Rhonda, and Ronda comes up on Granda, 675 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: will you accept the stem? And she takes that. I 676 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be great television, and they make you 677 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,479 Speaker 1: reshoot it, and I was so bummed. Point is, though 678 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: I got all fifteen. Do you remember how remember how 679 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: many of the ladies on the first night you remembered 680 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:21,240 Speaker 1: all their names? Uh? They just say this. They didn't 681 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: let me test that theory. If I'm not mistaken, let 682 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: me try and reenact this and tell me this is 683 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: that rate. You'd get through like five names and you'd 684 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: be like, I'm sorry, ladies, I I need a moment, 685 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 1: and you'd step outside, maybe like they'd like Debbie, Rhonda, Jenny, Brenda, Camille. 686 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: Is that not how they did well? Not not as 687 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: dramatic as that. It would be. You know, I'll go 688 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: I'll use your names. It would be like okay, yeah, Ronda, 689 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: what do you accept the strokes? Yes, okay, And then 690 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 1: it would be a pause and then I would like 691 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: look to to one of the um like directors and 692 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: I would just give a nod and he'd nod back, 693 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: and then I'd be like and then just mysteriously, oh, 694 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: there was no explanation, because when I was on the 695 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: batchel of the rat, they didn't do any explanation. We 696 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: were like, why are the girls keep going back to 697 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 1: the back room like what's going on? Like are they 698 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: are they panicking or they freaking out? And then I 699 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: later learned that's what it was for. It took away 700 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: the drama factor. I brought some drama to that franchise. 701 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: Back then, I'd be like, ladies, I just can't. But 702 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: then I'd like, but no, I can because I got 703 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: all fifteen right here in my bean. I got through it. 704 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. All right, So one last question, No, 705 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: thank you, buddy. It was the one thing I had 706 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: going for me. I got. I had a musical memory. So, UM, 707 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: all right, let's ask you this. So now that you're engaged, UM, 708 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Well, I'm sorry. What was your name? I 709 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,879 Speaker 1: think they all right, Well, you know what, I'm sorry. 710 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: I'm getting some bad intel. So at the end of 711 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: the day, we're so happy about the marriage coming up, 712 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: and we're excited to be invited to the nuptials. Um, 713 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: now I'm excited for you man. You seem like a 714 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: very nice guy, and I think that at the end 715 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: of the day, you got to remember, I have this, 716 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: I have this idea of the way the show works, 717 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,399 Speaker 1: especially when I was on it. I used to say, 718 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 1: you know, you could have You can have a monkey 719 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: up here handing out flowers and everyone's gonna cry because 720 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: it's a social science experiment. It's nothing to do with 721 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: the guy. So I think about that all the time. 722 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: I'm always like, you know, and people like, oh, no, 723 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,720 Speaker 1: that's humble pie pop. I'm like, no, it's really sincere. 724 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with the guy. But I 725 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: think in your case it kind of does, because you 726 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: seem like that guy. Man, you're a very nice guy, 727 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: and I have a feeling that you probably have a 728 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: lot of ladies vying for your attention and you were 729 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 1: raised right, and man, I'm just excited for you. I 730 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 1: hope it all works out the way you wanted to 731 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: and um, and you find some happiness at the end 732 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: of this thing, because it's a tough road to hope. 733 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: People don't get it right. They all think, oh, what 734 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 1: a crimeer river. You know, he handed out flowers of 735 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: thirty girls and made out with him, big deal. But 736 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: it is tough. You go through a lot to get there. 737 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: So I hope you guys find happiness, and I wish 738 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 1: you the best and thanks for being part of our show. 739 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: I mean it's o g to the new guy. Man, 740 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 1: this is a big transition. I was twenty years ago 741 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: and it's still on the air. This is bananas. Wow. Wow. 742 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: Well we'll first stop. Thank you. I appreciate that the 743 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: kind of words, and um, you know, yeah, like what 744 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 1: you're saying, it is wild and not a lot of 745 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: people understand it. You know, Fortunately you do. You're someone 746 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: that does. And it's it's crazy to know you. You 747 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: know that there are people that do support um, you 748 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: know through all the crazy social media and whatnot. But um, 749 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,439 Speaker 1: I appreciate being on this podcast and the new guy. 750 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. Hey, we just named it tonight, Bunny. 751 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: We're excited. We're excited. Well, I wish you the best. 752 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, at the end of the day, 753 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: you gotta remember, I mean, you know, just get through 754 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: it with your confidence intact. Don't let anybody beat you up. 755 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,399 Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's it's not easy, right, It's 756 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,879 Speaker 1: you're an easy target, dude. I mean, you know you're 757 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: out there, you're a nice person, putting your heart on 758 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: the line. Like you say, you wear your emotions on 759 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 1: your sleeve. So you're gonna get some grief for it. 760 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, Man, your happiness 761 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: twenty years from now. Take it from me, as it 762 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: matters of most. So it's gonna be a great experience. 763 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: You said yes to a fun moment. Live it up, 764 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 1: enjoy it, and thanks for being a part of the show. Man. 765 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. Thank you, Bob. I appreciate it. 766 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 1: I'm rooting for you. Man. Thank you. Tell your mom, 767 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: I said, Hi, Oh, she knows you.