1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast podcast, All Right. 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 2: Here we go. 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: Fifteen twenty twenty five, thirty thirty five, Hony Cody five 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: fifty and the kick Ass Block the College Football Laura 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: stund Oh my goodness, please stumble and the latter turn 6 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: a counter on the job, don't you. 7 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: The lad came off the veil the night. 8 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: By God, it's not the size of the dog in 9 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog. 10 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast and a 11 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: group of five Deep Dive. This is part two of 12 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: our sun Belt preview. If you want to hear what 13 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: we covered in the East, just hop into your podcast 14 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,319 Speaker 1: feed and listen to that first. If you're joining us 15 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: from the end of that episode, welcome back. Hopefully we 16 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: didn't scare you away with all that martial negativity, although 17 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: in between the two recordings we're already saying maybe under 18 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: two and a half is the way to go. Florida 19 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: State went thirteen and one to what two and ten? 20 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: So it has happened recently in college football. You know, 21 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: worse to first, but flip it. Also watch Party Week 22 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: zero if you want to join us in Chicago, Illinois 23 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: Joe's on Weed on August twenty third, Come on buy 24 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: eleven am kickoff. We got farm aged in between Iowa 25 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: State and k State. On the Emerald Isle, we got 26 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: the whole crew. Colin Stuckey, Duck myself. We're going to 27 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,639 Speaker 1: cut it up there. Please swing by, have some beers 28 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: with us. We'd love to talk college football. We are 29 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: so close to the bullets really being flying, really flying 30 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: around here in college football world. But let's get back 31 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: to the positivity. Let's start at the very top of 32 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: the West. There are three teams that I really like. 33 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: But let's start with Texas State. The Bobs went eight 34 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: and five last year, five and three in conference play. 35 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: They won the First Responders Bowl over in state ride 36 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: North Texas by two thirty to twenty eight. They are 37 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: seven to one as a co favorite with Louisiana to 38 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: win the Belts at least, you know, favorite in terms 39 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: of just the West. Their win total sitting at seven 40 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: and a half, three starters returning to an offense, one 41 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: on defense, one hundred and fifteenth in returning production, one 42 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: hundred and tenth on zer, one hundred and twelfth on defense. 43 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: The question here right off the top, can the offensive 44 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: wizardry continue for GG G J. Kenney always a difficult 45 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 1: one for me to spit out. They average thirty six 46 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: points per game in the last two years with TJ. 47 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: Finley and then with Jordan Mclouds, so it didn't necessarily 48 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: matter who he's working with a quarterback, and his fingerprints 49 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: obviously are all over this offense, even with a new 50 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. Unlike some of the G five offenses that 51 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: go all in on an air raid or a gimmicky 52 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: option run attack, they were perfectly balanced. So the question 53 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: for the group here off the top, is it going 54 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: to be Brad Jackson, Is it going to be Nate Yarnell, 55 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: Is it going to be Keldric Luster or does it 56 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: not even necessarily matter because we got Kinney's system. What 57 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: do you think, Colin? 58 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're the second thing that you said 59 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: is right, because if you're making a bet on Texas State, 60 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: you're making a bet on GJ. Kinney's system. Who stops 61 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: at Tulsa, stops at other places. He get a little 62 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: dip into the go go, so he's got his own 63 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: flavor of that going. I mean, there's a lot about 64 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: his offense that is catching a lot of eyes. I'm 65 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 2: actually kind of surprised he's still at Texas State. Probably 66 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,119 Speaker 2: destined to make it up on the P four level 67 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 2: at some point. So you're really betting on the fact 68 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: that it's his offense because they've lost every single starter, 69 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 2: and Keldrick Luster, I think is the one who may 70 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: be turning the heads and maybe the best fit of 71 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 2: this offense. He comes in from SMU over the incumbent 72 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: Brad Jackson, who has run plays in this offense. But 73 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: if you don't hear Brad Jackson's name during camp here, 74 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: that's because he's just not doing it well enough and 75 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: one of these transfers are going to beat him. They 76 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: do have one of the best centers in sun Belt 77 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: with tell at Lockett. He might be the best in 78 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: the sun Belt, which is great for one of these 79 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: four quarterbacks to get behind. They do have two September 80 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: games to figure this out. Eastern Michigan not worried about it. 81 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: Nichols not worried about it. I understand you're going to 82 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: utsa not that big of a road travel. Probably one 83 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: of the defenses you can still exercise, you know, try 84 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: to figure out what you're doing on offense, and then 85 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: you know Arizona State is going to be a battle, 86 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: but that really falls into a part of Arizona State's 87 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: schedule where they might not care about that game whatsoever. 88 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: So there is a month of September and there is 89 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: an outlook where this team could potentially have an identity 90 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 2: who the quarterback is, what their best attributes are. But really, 91 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 2: if you're betting them right now, it's on the belief 92 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: of just the offense, top three tacklers of four two 93 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 2: to five defense coming back. So that's good news. They 94 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: should have success in stopping the run. That is also 95 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: good news in this conference. There isn't much positivity about 96 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: the back seven though. That is where they're going to 97 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 2: give up a ton of explosive plays, and that is 98 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 2: something that you know Texas State last year there were 99 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 2: one hundred and sixth in coverage. They were ninety second 100 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: and giving up the big play. There were things like 101 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 2: passing downs explosives. There were one hundred and eighteenth like 102 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: if you got you know, third and long on the 103 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: Texas State defense, you could get a touchdown like so 104 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 2: that it's one of those things. I don't expect that 105 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: to stop, but they're just going to have to outscore 106 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: I project them seven point one, so I don't have 107 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: I have them necessarily making the Sunbelt Championship game, and I 108 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: don't have them necessarily getting over their seven and a half. 109 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 2: You know, it's not anything other to do other than 110 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 2: you know, looking at trying to figure out this offense 111 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: taking them saying they can't win Arizona State, which they 112 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 2: could take. I mean Arizona, say, is not a good 113 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: part of the schedule. And I still have questions about Kenny. 114 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: You'll get to that when we get to the Big 115 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: twelve and UTSA. I've got favored as by like eight 116 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 2: and a half, So there are games on here. I 117 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 2: don't think that they can win. So I haven't played 118 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: an under. I'm not going to play an under because again, 119 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: are you betting on the system or are you going 120 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: to bet on the fact that they don't have any 121 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: returning players on offense? 122 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: Doug, Let's talk about the defense real quick. Lots of 123 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: players coached by P four programs like Virginia Tech, Michigan State, 124 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: Colorado SMU, Dexter mccoyle Junior. I think proved last year 125 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: that they could essentially maintain some of those elite tackle 126 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: for loss havoc numbers without it being all boom or 127 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: bust because the year before that the Explosives were just 128 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: you know bottom, you know, two or three teams in 129 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: all of FBS. Incrementally, they made a little bit of 130 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: an improvement there. But when you look at eight wins 131 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: last year for their losses by one possession, do you 132 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: believe in this transfer class you know that has thirty 133 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: four three star players, and defensively in particular, they're relying 134 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: on a group in the front at least one of 135 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: these guys to pop. You got don Terry Russell from 136 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: Mississippi State on the edge, Michael and Wacocha from CUS, 137 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: Jordan Sanders who looked fierce at cal Poly. They need 138 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: these guys to step in and fill some of those 139 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: havoc numbers because that's their calling card. They essentially want 140 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: to take the ball away. They want to put teams 141 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: in a hole, get them behind the sticks. Even with 142 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: that being said, they still had the problems with the 143 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: explosives in some of those big moments. I mean, they 144 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: really should have beat Arizona State last year and they 145 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: get another shot at them. They got to go to 146 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: the Desert on September thirteenth. The week before that, they 147 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: played the road Runners at the Alamodome, and then they 148 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: also host James Madison on October twenty eighth, So they 149 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: have big opportunities, big moments to score secure, you know, 150 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: secure huge wins. Do you think they get it done 151 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: or do you think they're mispriced here? Along with Louisiana 152 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: in the West, the. 153 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,679 Speaker 3: Win total is fairly priced. I think with the defense, 154 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 3: you just have to kind of live with the high risk, 155 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: high reward. You're going to give up some explosive you're 156 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: going to send the blitz you're going to possibly get 157 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: in the backfield. They did pretty well at that last season, 158 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 3: with thirty six sacs and ninety six tackles for loss 159 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 3: secured last year, so defensive havoc numbers weren't too bad, 160 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 3: but it just took a lot of high risk in 161 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 3: order to do that. What you saw on the back 162 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 3: end was susceptibility to giving up the big play and 163 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 3: far too many explosives. Just to circle back to the 164 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: question you asked, I think it does matter who wins 165 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 3: the job, and the reason why I do is you 166 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 3: can be betting on this team in the system to 167 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: put up numbers and have the flashy, fun offense to watch. 168 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 3: But I specifically look at what happened last season for 169 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: Texas State which cost them on the field in games 170 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 3: against Arizona State, Louisiana Lafayette, Georgia State. They were just 171 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 3: so untimely in their turnovers and there were just flippant 172 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: mistakes that were made in key situations of those games 173 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 3: that had to direct impact on those three games, and 174 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 3: it really cost them on the field. And so I 175 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 3: think when you're looking at trying to find the gift 176 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 3: to balance finding the right fit for the offense, who's 177 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: the dual threat, who can make the throws, and who's 178 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 3: going to take care of the football, Because we had 179 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: three specific games last year where turnovers were the direct 180 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 3: result in losses. And you know, they had a second 181 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 3: half against sam Houston State in a neutral stadium where 182 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 3: they just completely went stagnated on offense and allowed the 183 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 3: Bearcats to get back in it and win it at 184 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 3: the buzzer. So I mean, I think who wins the 185 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 3: quarterback job definitely will unlock that next step in this 186 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 3: offense because they have some exquisite talent coming in from 187 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 3: the portal. Tyron Smith is a wonderful receiver who played 188 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 3: at UTEP and then came in via Cincinnati. Greg Burrell 189 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: at running back from UNLV should fit this offense. Just 190 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 3: find Mims comes in from Southern Miss, so I think 191 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 3: will be good in the slot. So I think there 192 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 3: are some explosive pieces offensively. Going now back to the 193 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 3: defensive side, it's just really gonna you're relying on transfers. 194 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 3: They've got four or five guys in the secondary that 195 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 3: are gonna have to gel and play cohesively. They're gonna 196 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 3: have a little time to figure it out in the 197 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 3: non conference, but it's going to be boom or bust, 198 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 3: I think again, because it's just a style of defense 199 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 3: that this unit calls and they're gonna have some time. 200 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 3: As long as they can get to the quarterback, they'll 201 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 3: be okay. But it puts a lot of stress on 202 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: the secondary when you're sending the blitz and you've got 203 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 3: limited guys in pass coverage and you just leave your 204 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 3: guys out there susceptible big plays. 205 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: Let's look at another team that won ten games in 206 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: the Belts last year. They went seven to one in 207 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: conference play, but ten and four overall, that's the Louisiana 208 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: ragent Cajun's. 209 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: This is the one you've been waiting for. 210 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: The season ended with a thud. You know, they get 211 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: worked over by Marshall. 212 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 2: They get it. 213 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: In Mexico Bowl. It was thirty four to three to TCU, 214 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 1: So I think that's thrown some cold water on the 215 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: overall perception of this team. But they're still seven to 216 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: one to win the Belt. Win total seven and a 217 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: half seven starters returning, four in offense, three on defense, 218 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: one hundred and fourteenth in returning production. Michael Desermo looked 219 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: like a poor man's Billy Napier, just keeping sunbelt Billy 220 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 1: seatwarm in case he flamed out at Florida. Then he 221 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: went and messed around, won ten games, and now he 222 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: hands the keys to his offense over to the most 223 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: talented quarterback recruit in program history. Walker Howard is a 224 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: former blue chip kid, rated it as the nation's number 225 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: one dual threat quarterback by ESPN and number five by 226 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: twenty four to seven Sports. Why do we not know 227 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: his name? While he sat behind this guy named Jaydon 228 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: Daniels at LSU. He also was in that quarterback room 229 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: with Nuss Meyer. No shame in not being able to 230 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: pop there in Van Rouge. Then the last two years 231 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: he sits behind Jackson dart at Ole Miss, who was 232 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 1: a first round NFL draft pick. So I think when 233 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people you know, would look at a 234 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: power for guy that gets buried all he doesn't have 235 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: that dog and we can't command a room. He doesn't 236 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: have those leadership in tangibles. I don't think we know 237 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: anything about that because he not winning those jobs over 238 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: those NFL guys. There's no shame in that whatsoever. Now 239 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: the question is can he do more with his legs 240 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: than Wolderin, which did last year. But Woldrige was incredible 241 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: for Louisiana. But can he do it with his legs? 242 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: Because this receiving room is very green, they're gonna need 243 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: Sheldon Sampson, a former SEC Blue Chipper who's a big kid. 244 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: He's got crazy speed. They need him to be borderline 245 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: first team all belt to be able to balance out 246 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: the inexperience that they have on the perimeter. Luckily, they 247 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: get two layups right away. They get Rice, they get mcnice, 248 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: so they have some time to settle in offensively defensively, 249 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: this is where I kind of lose a bit of 250 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: steam in terms of my positivity for l Ten of 251 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: their top thirteen tacklers are gone. The pass rush should 252 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: be decent during the loss in the Cameron Whodfield return 253 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: after chipping in eleven and a half sacks on the edges, 254 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: but so many new faces behind them. Jim Sealgado has 255 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: really has his work cutout for him. I think he's 256 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: going to have to perform some miracles on the back 257 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: end here. I'm going to level with everybody though this 258 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: schedule only has two surefire losses. In my opinion, It's 259 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: why I'm over on the win total. I do think 260 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: that they are my pick, maybe a co favorite in 261 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: the West. With this next team I'm going to discuss. 262 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: I really like them because I look at the loss 263 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: at Maszoo and then a loss of James Madison. However, 264 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: even against the Dukes, they're off of a buy and 265 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: JMU is not, so in terms of a scheduling quirk, 266 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: they have the advantage there. Gonna go with the over 267 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: because I'm enamored with Howard. I think this guy's going 268 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: to be fantastic. I hope that he is. I think 269 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: that all of our G five leagues need more elite 270 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: quarterback play. I think it's what gets the casual's eyes 271 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: on these conferences, and that's what I'm looking for. So 272 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: howard or bust for me? What do you guys think? 273 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: I'll kick with you first? 274 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: Duck? Yeah. 275 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 3: I think it's a really unique quarterback situation and probably 276 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 3: a situation that this group is just not used to 277 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 3: being in. Right, you have a really high profile recruit 278 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 3: that has now settled on Louisiana and should immediately inject 279 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 3: some life into elevating their pass game from priors. The 280 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 3: offensive line actually shores up, okay, I think they did 281 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 3: pretty decent in four point eight yards per carry and 282 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 3: only allowed eighteen sacks last year. And they've got plenty 283 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 3: of talent back along the offensive line, so they appear 284 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 3: to be just as strong. There, really a solid unit 285 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 3: on third down, and they were in the red zone 286 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 3: a ton last season. They did really well moving the ball. 287 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 3: What I would like to see from this group is 288 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 3: better execution down there. I mean, they settled for nineteen 289 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 3: red zone field goals last season, which is just absurd. 290 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 3: So if you have a quarterback with a laser arm 291 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 3: that can make the right decisions in tight windows and 292 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 3: you can convert those trips because they didn't have a 293 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 3: lot of empty trips. But if you can convert those 294 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 3: red zone opportunities into touchdowns, this offense could just be 295 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 3: elite and could be lights out this season for Louisiana. 296 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: Do you think the offense will be enough to help 297 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: the defense as it slowly grows this season column? Because 298 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: as I mentioned, so many new guys are going to 299 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: be relied on for stops. 300 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 2: It has to the defense is atrocious. I'll get to that. 301 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: I think the offense though, for how bad your defense is, 302 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: there could be problems on the offense. And one thing 303 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 2: that I'm looking at is a hundred and seventeenth and 304 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 2: tempo and the fact that they love to run the ball. 305 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 2: They're gonna be able to do that. The backfield, with 306 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 2: zill and Perry and Bill Davis each three point seven 307 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 2: plus yards after first contact, they can move after they 308 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 2: get hit. Zillen Perry creates misstackles at a really great rate. 309 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 2: From the running game perspective, this is sunbuilt. Billy's offense 310 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: still is the footprint of that, and it's still got 311 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 2: two running backs that can go so even Walker Howard 312 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 2: needs some time against Rice McNeice, which he should, but 313 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: even if he needs time, they're, oh, my gosh, a 314 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: game against the jury, and I don't like Missouri. So 315 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna you know, I think this offense is 316 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 2: going to be fun. But when you run a tempo 317 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: that's slow, your defense is gonna have to and you 318 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 2: have games that have nine to ten possessions, your defense 319 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: is gonna have to step up once. And that's where 320 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: second year DC Jim Salgado's got some real problems here. 321 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 2: I mean, lose top five tacklers on the defensive side. 322 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: They do get Jordan Lass and Cameron Whitfield on the edges, 323 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: they count for eleven and a half sacks the season, 324 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: but outside of putting a little bit of pressure on 325 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: a quarterback from those edge positions, it's dog shit. And 326 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: I mean I lose that that might be an in 327 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 2: to dog shit because one hundred and thirty second in 328 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: defensive rushing success rate, they couldn't stop the run, one 329 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty fifth in creating contested catches, They couldn't 330 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 2: stop the pass, one hundred and twenty first in defensive 331 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: finishing drives one hundred and thirty first and pass rush 332 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty fourth and tackling that's coaching, that's 333 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: Jim Salgado. So you're on the clock, buddy. I mean, 334 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 2: if there's got to be an improvement here through the 335 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: first half of the season, or they could be going 336 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: with a mix and match assistant staff running the defense here. 337 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: This is you, guys mentioned is one of the easiest 338 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 2: schedules from a strength of perspective, strength of schedule perspective 339 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 2: in the conference. They're going to host their rivals Texas 340 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: State in Southern miss They're on back to back six 341 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 2: days rest of South Alabama, which could be the only 342 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 2: tricky spot on this entire you know, on this entire roster, 343 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: and plus South Alabama with what they want to do 344 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 2: with their offense, if you don't get your corner position 345 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: locked up, that could be a problem. If you get 346 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 2: a bye week before you get to go to James Madison, 347 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: not sure you can beat them at home, but you 348 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: do get a bye week, could be a Sun Belt 349 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: game preview. I think the question is are they, like 350 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 2: you said, are they co favorites to the West. I 351 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: think the answer is yes. I project them at seven 352 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: point four and so there's no play for me on 353 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: the win total. But I think the team that I 354 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: do like to win the West, that's where you're gonna 355 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: want to find to figure out some sort of head 356 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 2: strategy to make sure that you get your investment out 357 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 2: of the West, if it's Louisiana or this other team 358 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 2: we're going to get to. But I think the offense, 359 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 2: the fact that they run one of the slowest tempos 360 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 2: in the nation, puts the defense on alert that you're 361 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: gonna have to get a stop at some point. And 362 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: that's where I get a little bit queasy about Louisiana 363 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 2: team total and potentially playing over or taking them to 364 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 2: win the West. 365 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: This next team that we're going to discuss is the 366 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: reason why I love my job and I love working 367 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: at Action Network because I'll bump into regular sports fans. 368 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: They asked me, oh, what do I do for work? Oh, 369 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: I cover college sports, talk college football. Which teams are 370 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: you excited about? 371 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: And they're waiting for. 372 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: Me to say Penn State or Texas And I say 373 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: Southern miss And they slowly back away from me and 374 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: get in their car and leave the parking lot. But 375 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: you guys, you're my people. You understand. Let's talk about 376 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: the Golden Eagles in Hattiesburg. They went one and eleven 377 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: last year over in Sun Belt play. They are now 378 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: in the sixteen to one range to win the Belts. 379 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: I know that everyone on this recording has fired in 380 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: at least twenty five, thirty, thirty five, forty to one. 381 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: Their wintel is sitting at four and a half, only 382 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: two starters returning, one on each side of the ball, 383 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: seventy third in returning production overall, thirteenth on offense. Though 384 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: in the action network world, USM is a known commodity. 385 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: Charles Soft comes in from Marshall, a worst for first 386 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: or worst coach in Will Hall. Will you know hullball? 387 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: Now over? He's out the door. The best in terms 388 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: of winning the conference last year won a coaching swap this. 389 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: I mean, let's start with the fact that quarterback play 390 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: for USM has been horrific since Nick Mullins left, I 391 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: mean him going to the NFL. They basically there's just. 392 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 2: Counting Frank gor and his auntie playing quarterback. 393 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: I guess, yes exactly. I mean they when you could 394 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: legitimately say no tongue in cheek that go wildcat and 395 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: just have a running back throw the football. That's your 396 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: best situation. That's how bad the quarterback situation has been 397 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: for years, four years here, and now Brayln Braxton comes in. 398 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: He went undefeated as a starter last year, nineteen to 399 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: two touchdown to interception ratio, two separate one hundred and 400 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: forty yard rushing performances, his dual threat potential. Then you 401 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: blend it with Blake Anderson as the play caller. Blake Anderson, 402 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: it seems like his coaching career, his life was over 403 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: when he was fired at Utah State for cause. Now 404 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: he's suing Utah State. It seems like he has a 405 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: good case there, certainly enough for the administration at USM 406 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: to say that you can resuscitate your career here. It 407 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: looks like you're clear of those legal hurdles. He is 408 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: an incredible play caller when you look at the statistical 409 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: monsters that he coached up at Arkansas State and Utah 410 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: State programs that didn't have a full cupboard of P 411 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: four talents or guys that they went into the portal 412 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: and just paid Justice Hansen Logan Bonner massive seasons for him. 413 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: So I think when you look at this and the 414 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: skill positions that are going to be around Braxton, that 415 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: are loaded with former P four talents in their back 416 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: field at wide receiver. I have faith in this potentially 417 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: being a top four offense in the Belt, which is 418 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: incredible given the five year run, coming off an zerover 419 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: season in conference play, and on top of everything else, 420 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: last year dreadful turnover look. Bill Connley wrote this up 421 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: for ESPN. They were negative nineteen in the turnover margin, 422 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 1: which was dead last in FBS, and when you look 423 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: at what it should have been based on average luck 424 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: and balls bouncing around on the carpet, it still should 425 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: have been negative eight, which would have been dreadful on 426 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: its own. So I'm not saying that they're going to 427 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: go from the bottom in terms of turnover margin to 428 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: be a top twenty five team, because, by the way, 429 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: Marshall was very fortunate in that way. I'm just banking 430 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: on them being closer to zero, and I think if 431 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: that's the case and the breaks aren't necessarily always going 432 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: against them, that changes everything for this team and the 433 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: overall upside. The defensive pieces, they got to be a 434 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,719 Speaker 1: lot better. They got to come together, and they have 435 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: some in terms of Josh Moden comes in from Marshall. 436 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: If he puts on weight and maintains his speed and agility, 437 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: I could see him being a three or fourth round 438 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: NFL draft pick. That's how good he is. I thought 439 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: for sure he was going to go to a power 440 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: for program in the portal. And also you got Josh 441 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: Battle from FCS Chattanooga at safety. That's another veteran hand 442 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: there in the back half of their defense that's going 443 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: to make sure that they're not given up huge plays 444 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 1: left and right. Jason Seymour, their DC, is someone that 445 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: I trust. He did a phenomenal job at Marshall. This 446 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: is a common theme situational play calling. How are you 447 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: on third downs? How are you in the red zone? 448 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: I trust him to get things right in that regard. 449 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: My favorite win total of all the G five over 450 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: four and a half on USM. I got him at 451 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 1: thirty to one. I'd still play them at twenty to one. 452 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to hunt around for that because sixteen 453 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: to one seems to be the consensus there by books. 454 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: But Colin, just talk me through this. This is something 455 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: we both got really excited about. The more you look 456 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 1: into it, the more it looks like a complete turnarounds 457 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: and maybe a seven win differential from last season. 458 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 2: About seven eight years ago, when the Sports Action app 459 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 2: was invented and I think it had maybe five downloads 460 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 2: in the app store, I went to Vegas and started 461 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 2: laying into Temple forty to one, thirty to one, twenty 462 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 2: five to one because I knew Matt Ruhle was going 463 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 2: to make it to the AC championship game, which he 464 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 2: did pre pandemic. Our podcast was hot on UAB thirty 465 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 2: five to one, and everybody we knocked it down to 466 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 2: twenty to one and they beat Middle Tennessee to win 467 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 2: their conference championship. This has that feeling. Now. The bad 468 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 2: news for everybody listening is is that forty to one 469 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 2: that I snagged when the lines opened up. I was 470 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 2: in the middle of college baseball season, but this one 471 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 2: I had bookmarked, I had penned. I had constant reminders 472 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 2: to wake up every morning and check seven books to 473 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: see if a numbers have hit. I wanted this one bad. Now. 474 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 2: Not only is the entire Marshall off Brayln Braxton, and 475 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: then five of the eleven starters on defense should be 476 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 2: from Marshall Charles sooff is bringing that defensive staff, but 477 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 2: on offense. When I heard the Blake Anderson who was 478 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 2: the head coach at Arkansas State with some electric offenses 479 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 2: and he left his you know rip to his wife 480 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 2: died of cancer. He needed a change of pace and 481 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: he went out West. Maybe he didn't like the fit 482 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: kind of some bad things happening at that program. He 483 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: comes back to the Sun Belt. Nobody knows this conference 484 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 2: like Blake Anderson, and now he doesn't have head coaching 485 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 2: duties and he's just going to play offensive coordinator to 486 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 2: best quarterback in the league. My power rating numbers can't 487 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: get to where Southern MYSS needs to be. I project 488 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 2: them like at four wins, and I don't think that's right. 489 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 2: When you take Marshall's defense and you combine it with 490 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 2: their quarterback, who's going to be the best With an 491 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator that is has an electric style and has 492 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: dominated this conference before, there's nothing you can do in 493 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 2: excel sheet that's going to catch up to that. So 494 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: what is the ceiling of this team? They can win 495 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 2: the West, they can go to the championship game and 496 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,239 Speaker 2: then they can get dominated by James Madison. But until then, 497 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,479 Speaker 2: let's have some fun. I think the forty to one 498 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 2: was good. I think if you can find twenty to one, 499 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 2: that's good. The number at fourteen to one to win 500 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 2: the Sun Belt is troublesome because you're still going to 501 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 2: start off the season getting probably beat by Mississippi State, 502 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 2: maybe cover probably beat. Then we get to see the 503 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 2: real action against Jackson State, and then I think you're 504 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 2: going to dominate app State, and then everybody's going to 505 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 2: wake up and realize. So I've had enough time for 506 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: Blake Anders and to get this offense intact, and people 507 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 2: are going to know what Southerness is, and the power 508 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 2: rating is going to be complete a change. Remember if 509 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 2: you talk to everybody about this, like power ratings at 510 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 2: the end of the season, last four weeks, they don't 511 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,959 Speaker 2: move more than a point and a half. First two 512 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 2: weeks of the season, you can move power rating four to 513 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 2: six points in a game based what you see in 514 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 2: the box score and how they wax teams. So this 515 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 2: is what I expect. We've had examples of this before 516 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 2: where people weren't paying attention to Matt Rule going to Temple, 517 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 2: where people weren't paying attention to Bill Clark resurrecting a 518 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 2: UAB program that had a bunch of players like sit 519 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 2: out for two years and decide to come back. This 520 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 2: is one of those situations nobody paid attention to in 521 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 2: the offseason, and that's why the opening number was ridiculous. 522 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 2: And I think twenty to one is a huge bargain. 523 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 2: I would still buy at fourteen to one. Sit back, 524 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 2: figure out a plan for Louisiana. That's going to be 525 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 2: a tough game. Power rating state it's a fourteen point game, 526 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 2: but it might not be by the time it gets 527 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 2: to October eighteen. So get your futures in, build a 528 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 2: plan to go up against Louisiana, and then build a 529 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: hedge plan for James Madison because that could be bad. 530 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: I think we're all on the same page. Offensively, the Anderson, 531 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,239 Speaker 1: you know, Braxton union is probably gonna bear fruit, and 532 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: I think explosive offense is what I expect by the 533 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: time October rolls around. Certainly, the question is this defense, 534 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: which was once monitored the Nasty boys. Can they bring 535 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: an edge to themselves this year? Last year it was 536 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: a full collapse. I'm not interested in looking at any 537 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: of the metrics or the stats. It's a new staff. 538 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: It's so many new faces. Do you think they're going 539 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: to be good enough defensively to not only be in 540 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: the conversation for a Bowl, but to be in a 541 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: conversation to win the West this year? 542 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 2: Duck Dug needs to mention that Michael Montgomery is a dog. 543 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 2: He's coming in to be the captain of his defense 544 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 2: very much so. 545 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think the four to two five alignment 546 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 3: will provide them opportunities to be successful. There is a 547 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 3: significant talent infusion along the defensive line platoon and in 548 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 3: the secondary. Ian Foster comes in to provide some versatility 549 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 3: at the nickel position. I think that you kind of 550 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 3: have to throw out a lot of the defensive metrics 551 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 3: in prior because the entire unit is changed over, and 552 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 3: really the portal win of certainly the G five, if 553 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 3: not all of FBS football last year with fifty four 554 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 3: new faces and just significant upgrade of your entire nucleus 555 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 3: of your two deep on defense has changed. This group 556 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 3: when the win total came out, was really being penalized 557 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 3: by the helmet sticker, right. I think Colin made mention 558 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 3: of it where you just didn't have the books operating 559 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 3: on the premise of this team being so significantly upgraded 560 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 3: in talent, in coaching, in situational football, they're going to 561 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 3: be better everywhere, and so yeah, I think the defense 562 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 3: will be in situations where they're going to succeed and 563 00:25:54,920 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 3: certainly improve drastically on the points per game, the yards 564 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 3: per rush, the red zone metrics, the third down metrics 565 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 3: where they struggled at times. I think that you'll just 566 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 3: see a completely rejuvenated group and a team that plays cohesively. 567 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 3: I think it may not show itself in the opener 568 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 3: hosting Mississippi State, but it could. But you go down 569 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 3: the line of those next four games, and every one 570 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 3: of those is winnable. This regular season win total at 571 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 3: four and a half, which is still out there. It's 572 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 3: heavily juiced over, but it's still out there at four 573 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 3: and a half. I mean, this could be a secure 574 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 3: bagger early. 575 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 2: In the season. 576 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 3: And I think you could be good on some alternate 577 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 3: win total markets six wins plus as like plus one 578 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 3: forty plus one fifty seven wins is plus two hundred. 579 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 3: I mean, those can all be good numbers to go 580 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 3: out and snag. From the all win perspective for Southern 581 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 3: miss would not surprise me at all if this is 582 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 3: a group that is playing very meaningful football and having 583 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 3: an impact on what happens in the Sun Belt West 584 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 3: this season, and you just look it through the schedule. 585 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 2: I mean, the big game is. 586 00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 3: At Louisiana on October eighteenth, but even those last I 587 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 3: mean Arkansas State, Texas State, South Alabama, Troy, They're going 588 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 3: to be in the mix to win those games. And 589 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 3: it could be something where worse to first is definitely 590 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 3: not something that I would assume happens with any regularity, 591 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 3: and I certainly don't bet on it with regularity. But 592 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 3: this is one where you have rejuvenated coaching staff with 593 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 3: Blake Anderson. Charles Huff is real motivated to be here. 594 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 3: The talent in flux is significant. This is absolutely a 595 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 3: play on team until the power ratings adjust according all right. 596 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: We turned from a team that we're really hot on 597 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: to one that I think we may have some split 598 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: votes in terms of them going up or down. The 599 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: Arkansas State Red Wolves a butch don't Kill My Vibe 600 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: Baby eight and five. Last year five and three in 601 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: the Belts, they win the Sixty Adventures Bowl over Bowling 602 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: Green in a shootout thirty eight thirty one. 603 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 2: Butch better have my money. 604 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,719 Speaker 1: They're twenty six to one to win the Belt. Win 605 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: total at five and a half, five stars, returning most 606 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,959 Speaker 1: on offense for on that side of the ball hundredth 607 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: and returning production seventy ninth on defense, though Jalen Rayner 608 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: chequees Corey Rucker. Somehow they kept their big three in Jonesborough. 609 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: I think all G five programs should take notes because 610 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: it seemed as though those guys were going to be 611 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: on the move when the portal opened, but they all 612 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: return This offense could be just as good or better 613 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: if offensive line coach Nick Grimes works some magic. Only 614 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: one returning starter up front, but they did portal in 615 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: three heavies from Arkansas, Tulane and Southern miss all those 616 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: three star kids. When the defense, though, when they faced 617 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 1: quality quarterback play, they got murdered. With the exception of 618 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: that weird eighteen sixteen game against South Alabama. Griff McCarley 619 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: gets a crack at calling plays, but he doesn't have 620 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: many reliable stoppers to work with on that side of 621 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: the ball. It's some interesting transfer pieces, namely Javonta Mackie, 622 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: who was with Arkansas State two years ago and safety 623 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: a g McGee for Marshall. Even if they win the 624 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: games they're supposed to win Southeast Missouri State at Kansaw, 625 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: at Monroe at Troy, ad Apps State, that's only five 626 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: wins and four of those games are on the road. 627 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: So we got paycheck games with Arkansas, Iowa State, Texas State, 628 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: Georgia Southern. I could go on. There are teams that 629 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: are going to be very difficult outs, and like I said, 630 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: when their potential gimmes are all on the road, I'm 631 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: leaning under here. Maybe it's just because of that one 632 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: year I was on Tennessee to I think win the 633 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: national championship. That was the Butch Jones year where they 634 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: just kept losing games that they were winning in the 635 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. They blew lead to Oklahoma, they blew lead 636 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: to Florida in heartbreaking fashion. This guy's never gone well 637 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: for me when I backed him, and I faded him 638 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: strategically over the years. I think given the fact that 639 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: he's improved his win total every year thus far in Jonesboro, 640 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: I think this is finally time to get off of 641 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: the ride. I think, even though the offense still could 642 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: be quite good. This defense has massive holes and I 643 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: don't love the situational spots to play here on Arkansas State. 644 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: What do you think, Josh, Yeah. 645 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 3: It's a play I made earlier in the summer, and 646 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 3: the current line is still with respectable juice, so I 647 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 3: would still support the position under five and a half here. 648 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 3: I think when you look at what our Arkansas State 649 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 3: did last season, they had just so many fortuitous breaks 650 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 3: go their way. They won eight games, but for those 651 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,959 Speaker 3: games you could make a strong argument they should not 652 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 3: have won. Took a miracle for them to beat Central Arkansas, 653 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 3: and the opener they didn't deserve to beat Tulsa. There 654 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 3: was just a stunning, poorly performed and situationally coached game 655 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 3: by South Alabama where Arkansas State defeated them. They beat 656 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 3: Troy by three in a game they probably should not 657 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 3: have won, and the breaks went their way more often 658 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 3: than not last season. I personally don't think that the 659 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 3: offensive line played particularly well during stretches last year. They 660 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 3: allowed way too much havoc seventy tackles for lost, thirty 661 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 3: five sacks surrendered, and they it was kind of a 662 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 3: flash in the pan when they were successful offensively. I 663 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 3: didn't see a lot that I thought I can really 664 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 3: consistently bank on in the run game, and now they 665 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 3: lose the influx of talent along the offensive line, for 666 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 3: the top receivers are gone, along with their top running 667 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 3: back from last season. But really defensively, I think they're 668 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 3: going to take a big step back, completely rebuilt along 669 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 3: the defensive line and a unit that was just really 670 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 3: not good last season. Nineteen sacks secured sixty five tackles 671 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 3: for loss, which is not elite. Five point seven yards 672 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 3: per carry on the ground. You could run on this 673 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 3: defense anytime that you wanted, and I think that'll continue 674 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 3: yet again this season. The linebacker room looks weaker. It's 675 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 3: a completely rebuilt front seven. Just not something I'm wanting 676 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 3: to bank on. When you look at the schedule, for me, 677 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 3: I think it's two and two in the non conference, 678 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 3: with tough games against Arkansas and Iowa State. Colin You 679 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 3: can chime in on Arkansas later, as these two programs 680 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 3: have never played each other in football, so I'm interested 681 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 3: to get your thoughts there. But the conference games at 682 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 3: home are brutal Texas State, Georgia, Southern Southern miss and Louisiana, 683 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 3: all at home, so it makes your winnables on the road. 684 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 3: This program has been terrible on the road for some time, 685 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 3: and I just don't think you can bank on them 686 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 3: going out and winning four road games to secure the 687 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 3: over here. I think that you saw a team that 688 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 3: was very fortuitous and a lot of their wins last season. 689 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 3: The defense is set to take a major step back. 690 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 3: Give me under five and a half. This is not 691 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 3: a bull team this season. Despite some of the flashy 692 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 3: players they have on offense that you are fun to watch. 693 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: It's right there on the cusp of bowl eligibilities. Are 694 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: they sitting at home colin during the holidays or are 695 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: they playing in a bowl game? 696 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 2: They're not playing in a bowl game. But I will 697 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 2: say this just put a message into you people on 698 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 2: the other side of the state over in Jonesborough. All right, 699 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 2: when I got out of college, First off, Frank Broyle's 700 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 2: former ad for like a billion years and former player 701 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 2: on our national championship sixty fourteen, he wouldn't even acknowledge 702 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 2: that there were other colleges in the state of Arkansas. 703 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 2: And he's sure as hell wouldn't acknowledge Arkansas State wanted 704 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 2: to play us in basketball or football. Ever, this game 705 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 2: would have never happened. We would go down pay ULM 706 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 2: a billion dollars even to come beat us in little Rocks. 707 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,479 Speaker 2: Some years, we would have never acknowledged that Arkansas State 708 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 2: has a program. Because of a recruiting perspective and the 709 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 2: fact that Arkansas keeps losing out on recruits and we're 710 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 2: playing Arkansas State. I'm just still questioning, Hunter, what are 711 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 2: we doing? Anyways, we're playing this game. And I will 712 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 2: say this as a little SEC preview because Stuck he 713 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 2: touched on it in our first Pickoff podcast about what 714 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 2: happens if Arkansas State wins. Arkansas has the worst defensive 715 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 2: line in all of the SEC, and they can't get 716 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 2: pressure on this Arkansas State offensive line, the Hogs aren't 717 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 2: gonna win a single game. So I'll just keep that 718 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 2: in the back of your head. Plus you people in Jonesboro, 719 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 2: just chill out. And the reason I'm saying chill out 720 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 2: is because after I got out of college, Arkansas State 721 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,239 Speaker 2: and Arkansas played in women's basketball, all right, And it 722 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 2: was like nineteen ninety seven, ninety no, it was like 723 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 2: two thousand, I don't know what year it was. It 724 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 2: was postseason It's not like we scheduled them. It was 725 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 2: some sort of n it game, some shit like that. 726 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 2: The Arkansas State women's basketball team beat Arkansas women's basketball 727 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 2: and you know what they did over there, They made 728 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 2: DVDs and they sold them on every bookshelf in the 729 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 2: state of Arkansas. Because you're women's basketball team beat Arkansas 730 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 2: women's basketball. Chill out over there on the other side 731 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 2: of the state. Know your role and hang out in 732 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 2: Jonesborough and don't come this way. All right, that's all 733 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 2: I gotta say about Arkansas State and that Arkansas game. 734 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 2: Get me fired up, and we still got six weeks ago, 735 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 2: all right. I project Arkansas State at three point seven. 736 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 2: Don't like anything about this offense. The only thing good 737 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 2: about this offense is that Jalen Rainer comes back. He 738 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 2: gets Corey Rucker out at wide out one hundred and 739 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 2: thirteen targets two point three yards per route run. That 740 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 2: is the entire offense. Because the offensive line returns thirty 741 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 2: three starts. It's not even lawn chairworthy. It's olay. Let 742 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 2: him run through. And with the tempo of this offense 743 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 2: being seventeenth fastest in the nation, they're gonna have Jalen 744 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 2: Rainer is gonna have to fire the ball faster, He's 745 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,720 Speaker 2: gonna have to take off run. That's gonna be the offense. 746 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 2: Defensive scheme change to the four two five we mentioned. 747 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 2: Griff McCarley taking over here could be the worst defensive 748 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,720 Speaker 2: line and secondary in the Sunbelt. So I can't really 749 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 2: have any can't really have any hope that they're gonna 750 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 2: get anything done from that perspective. But if you're a 751 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 2: second order win total guy, you're somebody that goes into 752 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 2: box scores and looks at win probabilities and factoring that 753 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 2: into next year. Six and zero and one possession games 754 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 2: last year, that is market indicators pointing down. Both Texas 755 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 2: State and Southern Myss come to Jonesboro off by weeks. 756 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 2: You draw Georgia Southern app State from the other division. 757 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 2: That's not the easiest games. So there's nothing I like 758 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 2: about this team. I went under five and a half. 759 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 2: I think because I was so focused on college baseball, 760 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 2: I had to eat some bad juice. I would have 761 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 2: preferred something better, but I would still play under five. 762 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 2: When the alternates come out, I play under four and 763 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 2: a half. I projected three points oven and by the way, 764 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 2: chill out week two when you play Arkansas. Okay, just 765 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 2: know your role and hang out over there by the 766 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 2: Mississippi River and do whatever it is you people do 767 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,479 Speaker 2: in jont throw whoo pig silly in Little Rock? 768 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 3: Colin, are they going to show up for that one? 769 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 3: That's Jonesborough, faithful? Going to show up in Little Rock 770 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 3: for that game that the Razorbacks don't like to travel 771 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 3: to each season? 772 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? You know, we actually lose money playing games and 773 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 2: more memorial Like this is just the stupidest rule. Like 774 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 2: towns like McGee and Dumas and Monticello, like you have 775 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 2: to play games in so that we can see our team. 776 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 2: Just buck up, put a little extra gas in the RV, 777 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 2: and get your ass up to fable. We actually lose 778 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 2: a million dollars playing in a war memorial. Knock it 779 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 2: off with this war memorial crap. All right, that's where 780 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 2: the high school teams play their championship. Make Arkansas State 781 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,760 Speaker 2: come over to Donald w all right, you have two 782 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,760 Speaker 2: scoreboards bigger than the earth. What are we doing playing 783 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 2: in that garbage can of war memorial? We are not 784 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 2: losing that game against Arkansas State. 785 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: I'm speaking of losing. I think I've lost control of 786 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: this episode, but I still got time for an ad 787 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: Red here. Football season is here, folks, and we've got 788 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: some huge improvements and updates for the award winning Action 789 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: Network app, and we're very excited to discuss those in 790 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: the weeks ahead. But to get the most out of 791 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: the app, you'll need to start by being an Action 792 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: Pro subscriber. 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We 802 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,879 Speaker 1: turned out to the South Alabama Jaguars seven and six 803 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: last season five and three and the Belts Salute to 804 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 1: Veterans Bowl win over Western Michigan thirty to twenty three. 805 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,240 Speaker 1: Plus six to fifty to win the Belt. This season, 806 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: win total at six and a half, seven stars, returning 807 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: four on offense, three on defense, sixty eighth in returning production, 808 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: fiftieth on offense, sixty seconds on defense. No go Lopez, 809 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: no fluff Bath. Well, they get plucked by North Carolina 810 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: Mississippi State, respectively. How do they reload duck the South 811 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: Alabama Jaguars. 812 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 2: I think it'll be really hard. 813 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 3: I think when you look at the portal losses, they're 814 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 3: just absolutely massive with fluff and geogon. Jamal Pritchett receiver 815 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,800 Speaker 3: is gone, They've got all three levels of the defense 816 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 3: were poached. They brought in twenty three players in the portal, 817 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 3: but the talent level is just not infused with what 818 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 3: they lost, and so I think the nucleus of this 819 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 3: team takes a step back. Last season was up and down, 820 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 3: but really more disappointing in my opinion than anything else. 821 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 3: When you had disappointing non conference losses against North Texas 822 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 3: and Ohio, followed by stunning conference losses against Arkansas State 823 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 3: and then a complete collapse against Georgia Southern, where really 824 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 3: the motif of last season. It was a team that 825 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 3: should have been a little bit better in conference play 826 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 3: than they were, and then with a chance to still 827 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 3: make the Sun Belt Championship game last season, hosting Texas 828 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 3: State the day after Thanksgiving, just completely no showed there. 829 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 3: So really disappointing for that group. And now the talent 830 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 3: infusion is not there, and they lose a ton of 831 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 3: players defensively. The Darius Webb is gone, Jaden Voyceen is gone, 832 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 3: Jordan Shruggs is gone. There's just too much lost here 833 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 3: for me to really get excited about this. Not really 834 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 3: in love with what Paul Patrino was going to bring 835 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,439 Speaker 3: with the slow paced, balanced pro style offense. I don't 836 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 3: think it fits the skill set very well. A team 837 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 3: that was already bad at times in situational football offensively 838 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 3: thirty eight percent on third down, had tons of empty 839 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,280 Speaker 3: red zone possessions. I just don't see it happening this season. 840 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 3: There's too much loss defensively. The schedule sets up quite 841 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 3: poorly for me, with a tough non conference games against 842 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 3: Tulane and Auburn, which are almost sure losses. I think 843 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 3: they're going to lose against North Texas later on in 844 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 3: the season. They play the first six weeks, so they 845 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 3: could be suck and win when they have to go 846 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 3: to Troy on back to back and really looking for 847 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 3: that bye week, and then the last two games of 848 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 3: the season are against stronger opponents in Southern Miss and 849 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 3: Texas State. Just seems like a schedule where they're looking 850 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 3: up at a lot of the tougher opponents, and it's 851 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 3: going to be really hard for me to see this 852 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 3: schedule necessitating enough to get over the win total. I 853 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 3: did bet this win total very very early on when 854 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 3: it was released at seven half. I'd still go back 855 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 3: for more at six and a half. I think that 856 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 3: this team is fighting and clying and scratching to try 857 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 3: like hell to get to a bowl game this season. 858 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 3: Six and six looks like the absolute ceiling for me, 859 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 3: so I'd still go under six and a half here 860 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 3: with South Alabama. 861 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: Major apple White, he always gets seven or eight wins 862 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 1: at least that's been his mo as a head coach. 863 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 1: Do you think it's a repeat here for apple White 864 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: or is this the first rebuilding year truly as a 865 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: head coach for him? 866 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 2: Colin, I actually like South Alabama. I'm just waiting for 867 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 2: the market to drop more. I would like it. If 868 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 2: it went to six and a half, I'd like to 869 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 2: take the over. I actually project South Alabama just shy 870 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 2: of seven and a half wins, and I have I 871 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 2: think six games where I think they're favored by a 872 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,280 Speaker 2: TD like I've got them favored pretty heavy over Coastal Carolina. 873 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 2: I've got them favored a big time over Morgan State. 874 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 2: Of course, that Southern Myss they're hosting, But what is 875 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 2: Southern Myss By the time November twenty second comes around 876 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 2: on the road at Georgia State, I mean, that's another game. 877 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 2: It's a batspot for Georgia State. There are games on 878 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 2: here that I think are completely winnable. Zach Pyron coming 879 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 2: in after not winning the Minnesota job. I don't think 880 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 2: he's going to be the starting quarterback because Bishop Davenport 881 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,320 Speaker 2: was just excellent the Bowlgie. I was watching this thinking, 882 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,839 Speaker 2: Holy cow this. I mean even at Go Lopez Leaves, 883 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 2: we're pretty good. Paul Petrino coming in as offensive coordinator, 884 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 2: but it's still major Apple White system. I think what 885 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 2: we're overlooking is that even though that fluff Bothwell isn't there. 886 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,839 Speaker 2: Kinrall Bullock has some really good numbers at running back, 887 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 2: this is an offensive line that's fifty second in the NATE. 888 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 2: It gets fifty second starts back that's eighty fourth of 889 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 2: the nation, So it isn't that bad. But there is 890 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 2: holes on this defensive line. They have edges that are 891 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 2: blow two hundred and fifty pounds. That gives me a 892 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 2: little worried D two experience on here too, of the 893 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 2: top fourteen tacklers are back. So definitely soul searching on 894 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball. But again, like I said, 895 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 2: I have six games where I make South Alabama around 896 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 2: a six point favorite or more, which tells me if 897 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 2: I can get this alt total or the total in general, 898 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,879 Speaker 2: if I can get this massive duck followers to push 899 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 2: that thing down to six and a half, I could 900 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 2: be entertained into going over six and a half. I 901 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 2: would really like to hear Bishop Davenport's name as the 902 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 2: starter around August twentieth, and then I'd be more inclined 903 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 2: to fire. All right. 904 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: We turned to the Troy Trojans four to eight last season, 905 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: three and five in the Belt, thirteen to one to 906 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: win the conference this season, and went till was sitting 907 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 1: at five and a half ninth Stars returning four on offense, 908 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 1: five on defense, nineteenth in returning production forty third on offense, 909 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 1: top twenty on defense. A Rockies start for Jared Parker 910 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: ended in optimism with the three and one finished, the 911 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 1: offense finally started to score, and their situational stats like 912 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: third downs in red zone efficiency, they were fantastic, top 913 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: ten nationally in both. That's usually a sign of quality coaching. 914 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: But they do have weapons to replace surrounding Goose Crowder. 915 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: Are they going to be able to replicate some of 916 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 1: the positivity that ended last season. That's to be seen 917 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: because losing Ross to Penn State is a massive blow. 918 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: Daniel King to North Carolina at tackle is also problematic 919 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 1: in terms of keeping Goose upright this season. You can 920 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: make a strong argument that this overall roster, three of 921 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: their top five best players in the entire roster are 922 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: at linebacker and dB. When I look at the schedule, though, 923 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: you could argue that there's ten toss up games. You 924 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 1: got the wover Nickels, you got the clear loss. They're 925 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: going to get dropped by Clemson. Outside of that, a 926 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 1: lot of possibilities, a lot of variance with the schedule. 927 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 1: It's a pass for me. For that reason, I think 928 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 1: there's a chance they get to five and seven, six 929 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 1: and six, seven and five into that sweet spot. I 930 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,360 Speaker 1: think this is priced accurately. What do you think calling Well, I. 931 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 2: Have an agree with you. I'm going to pass on 932 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 2: them because I make the total, you know, around six. 933 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 2: It says that I should go over five and a half. 934 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 2: But at the same time, I would like to know 935 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 2: what the health of this team is. After Week two 936 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 2: against Clemson, that defensive line is going to eat this 937 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 2: Troy offense like a game of Miss pac Man. After that, 938 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 2: you're going to go and Kevin Memphis offense. It's going 939 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 2: to try and run you up and down the field. 940 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 2: Come back to me on September fourteenth, tell me what 941 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,359 Speaker 2: the health of this roster is. Does Girod Parker have 942 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 2: because intendant starter is still healthy enough to play the 943 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 2: rest of the season, I'd be more inclined to bet 944 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 2: them from then on because you're right there are so 945 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,839 Speaker 2: I've got what seven point loss games. I mean, it's 946 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 2: just it's way too much for me. Nichols and Georgia 947 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,760 Speaker 2: State the only games where I've got projected to Troy 948 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,439 Speaker 2: as a double digit favorite. So there's just seven games 949 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,839 Speaker 2: where four points spread are less. Can't get into it. 950 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,360 Speaker 2: But again, it's one of those things where I'd like 951 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 2: to see a healthy roster after Clemson a Memphis, and 952 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 2: then I'll be ready to roll for potentially some dip 953 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 2: spots if they look bad against those two teams, which 954 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 2: they should for good reason. So if they do and 955 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 2: they're healthy, I'll be betting them come September twentieth, probably 956 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 2: against Buffalo. 957 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 1: It's been more than four months since International Women's Day, 958 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: so I appreciate you throwing out misspac Man, not the 959 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 1: regular male dominated pac Man. 960 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:24,399 Speaker 2: Douck. 961 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: What do you think on Troy this year? 962 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it really comes down to the health of the quarterbacks. 963 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,840 Speaker 3: Last year they just battle with injuries with Goose Crowder 964 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 3: just not being able to stay healthy and so it 965 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,399 Speaker 3: really handcuffed them early on in the season. I think 966 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 3: there is a little bit of an infuse of talent 967 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 3: here offensively with Rob rot Thomas coming in from Georgia, 968 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 3: Trey Cooley coming from Georgia Tech. So they do have 969 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 3: some pieces offensively that they can kind of hang their 970 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 3: hat on as long as the Goose can stay healthy. 971 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 3: When they come up to Sun Belt play. I think 972 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 3: that they could be okay. I think we talked about 973 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 3: the win total at five and a half. It's a 974 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 3: pass for me because I actually have this group pegged 975 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 3: at one in three in the non conference. So if 976 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 3: you like over, I would isolate the conference wins, which 977 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 3: is three and a half. I think there's five conference 978 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,720 Speaker 3: games that this unit really would feel good about their chances, 979 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 3: and many of those games are at home. So if 980 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 3: you want to go over on the win total, I'd 981 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 3: isolate the conference win total and go over three and 982 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 3: a half, which is still widely available. Defensively, they're going 983 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 3: to have to create a little more pressure up front. 984 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 3: They have some good talent that came in from some 985 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 3: P four schools that they can try to build something around. Defensively, 986 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 3: I don't have really a ton else on this group, 987 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 3: but I think that there are pieces to work with here, 988 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 3: and if anything, I'd go over three and a half 989 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 3: conference wins. 990 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,720 Speaker 1: If they get to bowl eligibility. Listen, college football gods 991 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 1: up there in the sky, please give me a Western 992 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: Kentucky versus Troy matchup so we can go Goose first 993 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 1: Maverick in the bowl game. 994 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 2: All of the. 995 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 1: Graphic designers across the internet would rejoice. I think we 996 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 1: could see some great memes out of that. So hopefully 997 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 1: if they go bowling, we get that connection. Let's close 998 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 1: out the West year with the Louisiana Monroe Warhawks five 999 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 1: and seven. Last year three and five in the Belt. 1000 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 1: Coach Vincent did a great job coaching them up. They're 1001 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,240 Speaker 1: thirty six to one to win the Belt. Win total 1002 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 1: sitting at four and a half, ten starters, return five 1003 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 1: on each side of the ball twenty fourth and returning 1004 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: production fifteenth on defense. If there was a G five 1005 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,760 Speaker 1: skill position player more integral, more important to a team's 1006 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 1: success than a mod hardy, I'd like to hear it, 1007 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,280 Speaker 1: because UM should have thrown a bake sale on steroids 1008 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 1: to keep this kid, because without him, how do they 1009 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 1: execute Vincent's vision. I just don't see it right now. 1010 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 1: Maybe you can talk me into it, duck Well, I. 1011 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 3: Mean, he's an exceptional player and it was really a 1012 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 3: shame that they couldn't keep him around. And so it's 1013 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,719 Speaker 3: really unfortunate because he is a big loss, and he's 1014 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,919 Speaker 3: a really big loss. When U factor what this unit 1015 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 3: wants to do offensively, they run at a complete snails pace, 1016 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 3: They spread you out, but they run the ball two 1017 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 3: to one. They possess the football. They really try to 1018 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 3: keep that leaky defense off the field, and so it 1019 00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 3: is a big loss with a mad hardy. I think 1020 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 3: Brayln mcreynold's coming in from South Alabama will help lessen 1021 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 3: the blow a bit. Just recapping twenty twenty four, you know, 1022 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 3: they really overperformed every metric. Their regular season win total 1023 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 3: opened up at one and a half and that was 1024 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 3: over right away, and so this group significantly outperformed, and 1025 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 3: even in doing so, you have to feel like twenty 1026 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 3: twenty four was a disappointment. This group started five to one, 1027 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 3: They had plenty of chances to secure a bowl game, 1028 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 3: couldn't do it, So they kind of faded down the stretch. 1029 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,360 Speaker 3: The defense really faded in the run defense. It was 1030 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,959 Speaker 3: just that this this unit did not have the depth, 1031 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,319 Speaker 3: they didn't have the size, and when they played some 1032 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 3: of the tougher teams in Sun Belt play, they really 1033 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,479 Speaker 3: they were really up against it and just couldn't stop 1034 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 3: the run. So it was kind of one of those 1035 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:43,280 Speaker 3: things where I think Brian Vincent has this team doing 1036 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 3: the right things. You know, the good takeaway for me 1037 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,439 Speaker 3: is they're just not absolute dog shit. They don't suck. 1038 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:52,839 Speaker 3: They're a formidable, at least serviceable bottom third sun Belt 1039 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,360 Speaker 3: team as opposed to just being the absolute worst team 1040 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 3: in sun Belt play. You know, the offense is going 1041 00:47:58,520 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 3: to be what it's going to be. They're going to 1042 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 3: be run heavy. They have to develop at least some 1043 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 3: sort of competent passing attack, as last season they just 1044 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,839 Speaker 3: were unable to throw the ball with any regularity, consistently 1045 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 3: failing to break one hundred and fifty year at the 1046 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 3: passing they were poor on third down. Turnovers were a 1047 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,279 Speaker 3: little bit of an issue, and the defense was just 1048 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 3: up against it because the offense couldn't score. So if 1049 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:25,239 Speaker 3: there's any sort of development of Arminetta at quarterback, and 1050 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 3: if there was any playmakers that emerged, this could be 1051 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,239 Speaker 3: a feisty group in sun Belt play. I think we're 1052 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 3: looking at four or five wins. I don't see a 1053 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,280 Speaker 3: ton of value in the win total. I see absolutely 1054 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 3: nothing As far as the futures market. Again, I think 1055 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 3: Brian Vincent has elevated this program from complete futility to okay, 1056 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,279 Speaker 3: it's a real opponent. We have to prepare for I'd 1057 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,680 Speaker 3: looked to bet unders in some of their games this season. 1058 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,919 Speaker 3: They should blast FCS Saint Francis, and then I think 1059 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,240 Speaker 3: that they could with just their style of ball control 1060 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 3: play in the very very slow pace, they're going to 1061 00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 3: try to play keep away. So I think early in 1062 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,399 Speaker 3: the season could be some unders that we might look 1063 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,359 Speaker 3: on in game for them, and then depending on how 1064 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 3: they operate the game plan, they could be looking at 1065 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 3: that Northwestern game as one where they might be able 1066 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 3: to show up and at least give a spirited effort 1067 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 3: there in Chicago. So if they're catching enough points, could 1068 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 3: be catching twenty four to twenty five points could be 1069 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:23,360 Speaker 3: worth looking at there, But otherwise nothing too crazy for me. 1070 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,360 Speaker 2: On ULM. I do like the over on this team. 1071 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,439 Speaker 2: I do make it about five and a half. I'd 1072 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 2: like to go over four and a half. But there 1073 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 2: are a lot of questions here on the offensive side, 1074 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 2: mainly Brian Vincent says that he's not calling the plays, 1075 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 2: and I don't really see on the coaching staff who 1076 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,400 Speaker 2: is going to call the plays. I'd like to have 1077 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,839 Speaker 2: that answer before I fire my own money. He says 1078 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,279 Speaker 2: he wants to give attention to the other parts of 1079 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 2: the team, okay, but you know, I want to know 1080 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,319 Speaker 2: who's calling the plays. I want to what system we're 1081 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,720 Speaker 2: going with because quarterback Aden Armenta needs to be developed. 1082 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 2: And at the same time, Hunter Herrig is the guy 1083 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,719 Speaker 2: that's going to run the wildcat here and if he 1084 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 2: has any success, if I hear anything out of fall camp, 1085 00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 2: you know, they're running this wildcat package and they're running 1086 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,799 Speaker 2: at the hundred thirty third slowest offensive tempo in the nation. 1087 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 2: Then they're going to army You well, I guess armies 1088 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 2: maybe a little bit faster than that, but they're going 1089 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,279 Speaker 2: to try to play eight possessions a game and then 1090 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 2: try to capitalize on that. The problem is that the 1091 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 2: defense is just the rush defense was future horrible one 1092 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty fourth in defensive rushing success rate. A 1093 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,840 Speaker 2: lot of Juco's coming in to try and plug up 1094 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 2: all those holes up front. Pass defense is actually the 1095 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 2: specialty here. They're going to be able to stop some 1096 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 2: of these offenses that like to sling it around that 1097 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,880 Speaker 2: are on their schedule. You know, they're I'm looking at 1098 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,280 Speaker 2: Texas State, I'm looking at you know, maybe potentially Louisiana 1099 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,320 Speaker 2: with Walker Howard at the end of the season, ULM 1100 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 2: could potentially with this secondary give them, you know, a 1101 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 2: little bit of pause. The rest of the defense is 1102 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,879 Speaker 2: nothing really to talk about, but you know, corner David 1103 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 2: Goolsby's coming in UAB transfer Carl font Troy, so we'll 1104 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 2: see what they can do. He'll be there at safety. 1105 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 2: Three outright wins as an underdog last season, they really 1106 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 2: caught everybody off guard. They only covered like one of 1107 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 2: their last five games, I think against Marshall. I think 1108 00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 2: they ran out of gas or maybe just on paper 1109 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,359 Speaker 2: they got figured out. Really, it was one of those 1110 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:02,840 Speaker 2: things where I think they ran out of gas and 1111 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,720 Speaker 2: they kind of showed their entire hand. Even beating JMU 1112 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,359 Speaker 2: as a sixteen point underdog last year. That tells me 1113 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 2: that's coaching. That wasn't because of the talent they had. 1114 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,360 Speaker 2: I mean, of course they had good talent. They've lost that, 1115 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,399 Speaker 2: but that's coaching too. They have a good spot early, 1116 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,399 Speaker 2: they're coming off a buye before they go and play UTEP. 1117 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 2: They can beat Scotty Waldron. Scotty Waldron has not brought 1118 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,239 Speaker 2: in what he needs to bring into UTEP, what I 1119 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,359 Speaker 2: thought he'd have in year two. That's a winnable game. 1120 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 2: Then they catch Arkansas State on back to back travel 1121 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 2: Saint Francis is a win. In week two, they're at 1122 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 2: home against ODU. They're on I mean, do you believe 1123 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:35,959 Speaker 2: in the first half of the schedule of the second 1124 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,759 Speaker 2: half a schedule. I think the overall belief is that 1125 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,839 Speaker 2: it's the coaching. I think they're going to figure it out. 1126 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 2: On offense, the slow tempo means the defense needs to 1127 00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,640 Speaker 2: plug a couple of holes since there's only gonna be 1128 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,279 Speaker 2: eight to ten possessions a game. So I do like 1129 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,120 Speaker 2: the over I'd like the market to get a little 1130 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:50,839 Speaker 2: bit more depressed find the best number, but I would 1131 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 2: go over more and a half. 1132 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 1: So that's it for us. The Sun Belt now in 1133 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,880 Speaker 1: the books, I hope you guys appreciated that double feature 1134 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 1: East and West. If you're listening to the West preview 1135 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 1: and you're wondering what the hell we're talking about in 1136 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,759 Speaker 1: the East, go back into your feed and check out 1137 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,400 Speaker 1: everything that we broke down for those seven teams coming 1138 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,360 Speaker 1: up next the Mountain West, followed by Conference USA, and 1139 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,799 Speaker 1: then the week after that, Colin and Stucky strap in 1140 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 1: for Power for previews. That is going to be an 1141 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 1: incredible listen, so make sure to have your calendar set 1142 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,240 Speaker 1: for when those drop because those numbers and those conference 1143 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 1: title ods that they're putting out there as soon as 1144 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 1: they say it and it hits the airwaves, there's going 1145 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 1: to be some market movements, so you want to make 1146 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,640 Speaker 1: sure that you're able to follow along more or less 1147 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,239 Speaker 1: in real time. Thank you so much for listening to 1148 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 1: the Big Bets on Campus podcast. It's been Group five 1149 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,360 Speaker 1: Deep Dove special thanks to my co host Colin Wilson 1150 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 1: and Duck. 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