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Speaker 1: the episode description. All Right, so Jeff, here we are.
Speaker 1: I'm Susis men, who are you.
Speaker 2: I'm Jeff Garland, one of America's top teens.
Speaker 1: And we are on the History of Curbry Enthusiasm on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1: This is season four, episode ten, opening night. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: this is a big episode, so yes, and a delightful episode.
Speaker 1: I have to say things that I didn't remember rewatching
Speaker 1: it that I thoroughly enjoyed.
Speaker 2: There's one term in this that fucking knocked me off
Speaker 2: my feet and I never heard it, and it's real,
Speaker 2: So we'll get to it.
Speaker 1: Umi, Okay, is this something that Richard Pine said? Of course, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I didn't know, and I reacted so strung I
Speaker 2: had to hold back my laughter. But after the seat,
Speaker 2: you know, after a take was shot, I said, that
Speaker 2: is such gold. I've never heard anything.
Speaker 3: For me.
Speaker 2: It's a real term.
Speaker 1: I never heard.
Speaker 2: It made me but also coming out of his mouth, Yes,
Speaker 2: made it so funny. We'll get there, we'll get there.
Speaker 1: So we start the scene Larry's at home and Cheryl
Speaker 1: is running lines with Larry. Larry's having trouble, and Larry's
Speaker 1: off to the airport to go to New York for
Speaker 1: the opening night. And Cheryl said, you know, if you
Speaker 1: want me to go with you, I could run lines
Speaker 1: with you in the plane and blah. And he's like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you go to your NRDC benefit. You don't need to come.
Speaker 1: And she's getting a little suspicious, and she's like, well,
Speaker 1: who's on the plane with you? And he says, you know,
Speaker 1: Jeff David Schwimmer, Katie Huffman. And Cheryl's like, oh Katie.
Speaker 2: Well, by the way, he did separate her, yes, well,
Speaker 2: he was searching for her name.
Speaker 1: He said it very suspensiously. I would have picked up
Speaker 1: on that in a heartbeat.
Speaker 2: Well, he realizes that this might be his last chance.
Speaker 1: Correct, and it's he only has three more days, you know.
Speaker 1: Cheryl tells him, you've only got three more days for
Speaker 1: your anniversary gift, and if you don't do it in
Speaker 1: the next three days, it deals off and Cheryl tells
Speaker 1: him that she's going to be there opening night, she'll
Speaker 1: see him after on opening night, and then we see
Speaker 1: Larry's at.
Speaker 2: The the idea that he tells her it's more important
Speaker 2: that she goes to events.
Speaker 1: She's on to him. You know, men are so transparent,
Speaker 1: and we see right through all this bullshit, at least
Speaker 1: I do, and so.
Speaker 2: Does she know I'm going to be That's a very
Speaker 2: astute thing. Men are very transparent because they.
Speaker 1: Don't know how to Oh, they done the idiots.
Speaker 2: But women the complete opposite. I think that anything a
Speaker 2: woman does in secret, if it's ever found out, it'll
Speaker 2: surprise anyone who's around that part cag you are KG
Speaker 2: you ladies.
Speaker 1: Next we see Larry at the airport and he runs
Speaker 1: into Jeff and Jeff's like, no, Ryl, and he's got
Speaker 1: three days. You are on him with this. You got
Speaker 1: three days? You're going to do this? Baby? You are
Speaker 1: so into it vicariously, but not really vicariously because you
Speaker 1: cheat on me left and right, so it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 1: And this is an interesting thing. I totally forgot this you.
Speaker 1: Jeff Green tells Katie Huffman that Larry has OCD because
Speaker 1: Katie told Jeff that she has OCD, and Jeff's trying
Speaker 1: to grease the wheels to get her interested in Larry.
Speaker 1: So you tell Katie Larry also has OCD, and you
Speaker 1: tell Larry that, and Larry's like, what did you do
Speaker 1: that for? And You're like, she was excited, she was
Speaker 1: excited about it.
Speaker 2: Well, by the way, he's actually for once outraged.
Speaker 1: A little bit, a little bit out.
Speaker 2: He was not happy. And by the way, that is
Speaker 2: such a funny thing to tell someone that you know nowadays,
Speaker 2: I would never do something like that. But young Jeff Garland,
Speaker 2: I'd say.
Speaker 1: Well it was Jeff Green Jeff.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I know, but young My point was,
Speaker 2: young Jeff Garland would have done that, and worse, like,
Speaker 2: I loved insane, practical jokes that no one would think.
Speaker 2: I know, you know, the what if jokes? Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, you knew me back then, and there I
Speaker 2: don't even know even getting married, if I changed, even
Speaker 2: having children, if I changed. But at some point I
Speaker 2: was like, no, that's totally inappropriate. I also didn't know
Speaker 2: I was bipolar, but that's not an excuse.
Speaker 1: Well you learned your lesson at this point. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: so Katie comes over and she gives Larry a big,
Speaker 1: big hug, which is uncharacteristic because he thinks she hates
Speaker 1: him after the whole scene at Ben's birthday party where
Speaker 1: he made a fool of himself and you very astutely
Speaker 1: leave and leave them alone. And she asks him about
Speaker 1: his OCD and they seem to have a bond about it,
Speaker 1: and it's a lovely little moment for them, and he's,
Speaker 1: you know, she's into him. You could tell she's into him.
Speaker 1: She's beaming at him. And then and they're not yes
Speaker 1: yet terrible and then David Schwimmer shows up and he's
Speaker 1: you know, he's very illusive.
Speaker 2: Really, that was a terrible joke. I just want to
Speaker 2: make that. I will cut it out when I know
Speaker 2: keep it. I just know, you know, I like admitting
Speaker 2: to the audience who are groaning or rolling their eyes
Speaker 2: that I'm very aware. I'm very aware, when.
Speaker 1: Well, why don't you tell our audience not our entire
Speaker 1: audience knows what abima is. Abima is the last day
Speaker 1: I did, they might not know a bema is like this.
Speaker 2: Is like I'll even say it like this, it's the
Speaker 2: stage where a service in a Jewish temple takes place.
Speaker 2: I call it the stage and the is up there,
Speaker 2: the tour is up there, which is always from It
Speaker 2: seems every temple that I go to it's from the Holocaust,
Speaker 2: like it was saved from the Holocaust.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't know that, but you know,
Speaker 1: once I had to. Over the years, I've done many
Speaker 1: gigs for Jewish war organizations and temples, and once I
Speaker 1: was hired to do one, and usually it's in a
Speaker 1: party room or something. They all have a party room, right,
Speaker 1: And this was outside of Philadelphia, and they had me
Speaker 1: doing stand up on the bema. And it was like, really,
Speaker 1: this is where you're having me do stand up? So
Speaker 1: I knew I immediately had to address it, you know,
Speaker 1: and I said something like you have me on the
Speaker 1: fucking bema and I called it. I was like, Rabbi,
Speaker 1: where's the rabbi and the rabbits? And then I looked
Speaker 1: at him, I said, did I fuck you? I had
Speaker 1: to like break the ice immediately that I was on
Speaker 1: the bema. But you know, and in front of the Torah,
Speaker 1: even though they covered it with a curtain, everybody knew
Speaker 1: the Tora was behind me and I'm doing my stand
Speaker 1: up totally inappropriate, which, by the way.
Speaker 2: I've been put in those situations too, and I may
Speaker 2: have done a BEMA job or two. But I also
Speaker 2: want to say the Adam Sandler bar Mitzvah Bought Mitzvah
Speaker 2: movie that's on Netflix. It's on right now.
Speaker 1: Two week I don't know it.
Speaker 2: It premiered now. Oh it's fantastic. You know. I watched
Speaker 2: it because I loved Adam and I had very low
Speaker 2: expectations and I was I couldn't believe how great it was.
Speaker 2: It was wonderful. And his daughter is spectacular.
Speaker 1: The actress who places going well, both.
Speaker 2: His daughters are in it, one as a smaller part
Speaker 2: as the older sister, but the young lady who's the
Speaker 2: actual star of it is fantastic.
Speaker 1: She's an actress, not his actress.
Speaker 2: It's very special. Oh no, she's his actual daughter.
Speaker 1: She is his actual daughter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, so it was really nice to see.
Speaker 1: Okay, So then we're on the plane and this is
Speaker 1: one of my favorite scenes. On the plane and Larry
Speaker 1: has a magazine and Jeff's just sitting there. Jeff's just
Speaker 1: sitting there.
Speaker 2: Do you have anything? Do you have anything to me?
Speaker 2: Just sit there. You don't have a magazine or a
Speaker 2: book nothing. No, I just said, how came you ever
Speaker 2: bring a book? R magazine? I don't need one. I
Speaker 2: like just sitting.
Speaker 3: We could sit on a plane for five hours like that.
Speaker 2: It's crazy, I can you.
Speaker 1: Don't need to read sit there for five hours, just sitting,
Speaker 1: which is so indicative of your character's emptiness.
Speaker 2: Let me also add that was a first take, and
Speaker 2: Larry asked me not to do that again, so we
Speaker 2: did other versions of it's just more talkative. I may
Speaker 2: have had a magazine something and I was so look,
Speaker 2: I knew we had it. And you know, I always
Speaker 2: I'm not say argue, but I feel free to disagree
Speaker 2: with Larry all the time. Or when I'm a producer
Speaker 2: watching and I go up to talk to him on
Speaker 2: a scene, I'll tell him the straight dope. I don't
Speaker 2: hold anything back. But I was disappointed because not that
Speaker 2: I could have done more with straight sitting straight ahead.
Speaker 2: But I was like, don't you see how funny that is?
Speaker 1: It's very funny.
Speaker 2: No, no, but he goes into editing and he calls
Speaker 2: me I was wrong. It's hilarious. I was wrong. And yeah,
Speaker 2: by the way, Larry is a guy doesn't hesitate to say.
Speaker 1: No, no, I've done I've had the same experience. While yeah,
Speaker 1: he'll tell me to do something, I say, can I
Speaker 1: do another one my way? And then I'll do it
Speaker 1: your way, and he's always like yeah, yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 1: then you know.
Speaker 2: But but by the time us he has no ego.
Speaker 2: What's the funniest And so he went in editing and
Speaker 2: saw that that is hilarious, and I just was, you know,
Speaker 2: it's so funny. Before we shot the first take, I
Speaker 2: was just sitting there and we started, and I had
Speaker 2: nothing planned. I never well, I generally don't, but I
Speaker 2: wasn't thinking anything, and so I just sat there and
Speaker 2: then the second he asked me what I was doing,
Speaker 2: I was off to the races.
Speaker 1: Well, because it's so it's such a character thing, you know,
Speaker 1: it's such a I mean that you just you could
Speaker 1: sit there for five hours with nothing. And this was before.
Speaker 1: By the way, now there's always a DVD you know,
Speaker 1: a television screen in front of your seat. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I just stated myself, Yes, there's a TV screen always
Speaker 1: in the seat in front of you, in the back
Speaker 1: of the seat in front of you. So you know,
Speaker 1: that's what you do on a plane, you watch movies
Speaker 1: and TV or news whatever. But in those days, no,
Speaker 1: this was two thousand and four, that wasn't the case.
Speaker 1: And then we see a shwimmer whisper something to the
Speaker 1: flight attempt.
Speaker 2: By the way, I want to just jump back for
Speaker 2: a second. That scene was very reflective, and I don't
Speaker 2: think I did it since of the in the Hour
Speaker 2: special where I don't like gum, very first scene of
Speaker 2: the show where we're sitting in the waiting area and
Speaker 2: he offers me a piece of gum and they say,
Speaker 2: I don't eat gum, you know, And I forgot what
Speaker 2: my reason was, but it was very non existent. It
Speaker 2: was just insane. Go ahead.
Speaker 1: So then Swimmer goes up to and I'm blocking. Her
Speaker 1: name Yvette. She starred in Community who played the flight
Speaker 1: attend That was the thing. I love her. She's a
Speaker 1: great girl. I've worked with her on other things.
Speaker 2: Oh, she's fantastic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ya Vette. What's her name?
Speaker 2: You Vet?
Speaker 1: No, it's not you Vet. This isn't the Time Machine.
Speaker 1: What a great movie that was, by the way.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, with Rod Taylor and what were the
Speaker 2: name what were the name of the characters that were
Speaker 2: below ground.
Speaker 1: I don't remember, oh.
Speaker 2: That movie like the.
Speaker 1: It wasn't that, it was the.
Speaker 2: It was you're right, but that movie is a kid
Speaker 2: time Machine.
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about I rewatched it from the.
Speaker 2: Fifties, did you really? And I assume it holds up.
Speaker 1: It's fantastic because it's so and I remember it's Yvette
Speaker 1: Nicole Brown.
Speaker 2: Nicole Brown, right, yeah, she's wonderful. But I remember watching
Speaker 2: the Time Machine and as a kid, it was so
Speaker 2: beyond my comprehension. The spinning wheel going back in time
Speaker 2: and the way that people were blonde, and how beautifully
Speaker 2: Yvette mim was and all that. But the characters underground
Speaker 2: scared the ship out me. I found that whole and
Speaker 2: they were The makeup on those characters was great, and
Speaker 2: it really it was profound that movie. You know where
Speaker 2: I first saw Family Classics on W G. N okay,
Speaker 2: But it was an HG.
Speaker 1: Well story.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like, well, it's a great book, but
Speaker 2: still so.
Speaker 1: Back to so David Sack the.
Speaker 2: Current day, where no one is underground except for people
Speaker 2: who work the sewers go ahead.
Speaker 1: David Swimmer whispers something to the flight attendant, which Larry
Speaker 1: used to call the stewardess through the whole show.
Speaker 2: Did you, as a kid believe the thing that if
Speaker 2: you dug deep enough you get to China?
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't an idiot.
Speaker 2: I believed it as a kid. I believed that I
Speaker 2: even started digging to China. Way, okay, keep going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he whispers to the flight attendant, and then the
Speaker 1: flight attendant comes over to Larry, which is uvet Nicole Brown,
Speaker 1: and tells him he's got to put a seat upright.
Speaker 4: Sorry, could you please put your seat in the fully
Speaker 4: upright position?
Speaker 3: Please?
Speaker 5: Let me ask a question. Yes, did he tell you
Speaker 5: to say that?
Speaker 4: Did who tell me?
Speaker 5: What? Good guy?
Speaker 2: Right there? Did he tell you the seat wasn't.
Speaker 1: Up I don't know what you're talking about, but we're
Speaker 1: trying to take off, so I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: Need I saw him talking to you up there? Did
Speaker 2: he tell you myself?
Speaker 4: Let me tell you what I need.
Speaker 6: I need you to be quiet and in this seat
Speaker 6: with the seat fully of Okay, that's what I require.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, But I saw him talking.
Speaker 1: Did you hear what I require? Which, by the way,
Speaker 1: is a thing that never makes sense to me. Why
Speaker 1: our seats have to be upright, I understand the trade table,
Speaker 1: but the seat upright, I don't fully understand.
Speaker 2: No, I don't understand. And to be honest with you,
Speaker 2: I've always followed it.
Speaker 1: Well you have to because they won't take off if
Speaker 1: you don't follow it.
Speaker 2: And Larry, I see others who I don't tell on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Larry believes that Schwimmer told on him.
Speaker 2: By the way, whenever Larry gets yelled at, he loses it.
Speaker 2: And so that was that moment for him to get through, wasn't.
Speaker 2: She's screaming at him to you know, follow the rules
Speaker 2: and all that. You know, it gets interrupted a million
Speaker 2: times because he can't go on. He's laughing so hard.
Speaker 1: Been there. Yeah, Then Larry goes to the bathroom and
Speaker 1: what do I have with foot? What is this? I
Speaker 1: can't understand my notes. Sometimes he lives up. He lifts
Speaker 1: up the seat with the foot foot, which is another
Speaker 1: thing that I find completely gross. That I understand why
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to use his hand, But your hand
Speaker 1: you could clean the foot. You can't the shoe, and
Speaker 1: then that shoe comes into you.
Speaker 2: I've got in an argument with him and Bob Whitey
Speaker 2: about that, especially Whitey Bob White is the director of
Speaker 2: the episode, and I said, I always use my hand,
Speaker 2: then wash my hands.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know whatever, and then this turbulence, crazy turbulence,
Speaker 1: and it's a whole scene with him trying to pee
Speaker 1: in the turbulence at a typical Larry's scene.
Speaker 2: Which, by the way, I never found that scene funny.
Speaker 1: It's the physical comedy. It's one of.
Speaker 2: Those No, Larry's great in this, in the in the scene,
Speaker 2: but I never because that's one of those where you
Speaker 2: uncontrollably laugh at Yeah, and it didn't hit me.
Speaker 1: No, all right, didn't work for you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you're too afraid to say it didn't work
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 1: Now, I didn't feel that way.
Speaker 2: I'm not afraid afraid. So my question is what was
Speaker 2: your feeling about that scene?
Speaker 1: You know, I liked it, It was okay. I mean,
Speaker 1: when I'm watching these, by.
Speaker 2: The way, let me ask you a question, curb your enthusiasm?
Speaker 2: Is okay? Acceptable? I think not. I that wasn't necessary
Speaker 2: for the whole show. That could have easily been cut.
Speaker 1: But when I'm watching these episodes and taking notes, I'm
Speaker 1: not watching it like I'm just sitting back enjoying it
Speaker 1: and you know I do both.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do both.
Speaker 1: I don't to me.
Speaker 2: The last episode that we did, The Survivor, The Survivor,
Speaker 2: I found myself laughing so hard I was grabbing my
Speaker 2: stomach really, because, yeah, I really enjoy the show. I
Speaker 2: generally don't laugh at myself, but oh boy, there were
Speaker 2: moments in that show where I'm laughing so hard I
Speaker 2: can't get well.
Speaker 1: I feel like what I should do is watch the
Speaker 1: whole episode and then rewatch it and take notes. But
Speaker 1: that's a lot of one.
Speaker 2: No. Yeah, but I have the skill to do both.
Speaker 2: Look at you, look at me. We'll be right back.
Speaker 4: Stay tuned, and we're back.
Speaker 1: So they get to the Regency Hotel and Swimmer Gooat
Speaker 1: walks right in, doesn't tip anybody, and Larry complains to
Speaker 1: the doorman that he has no small bills, and the
Speaker 1: doorman he doesn't really buy it, and same to the billboy.
Speaker 1: He says, I'm going to come back and I'm going
Speaker 1: to take care of you, but neither of them really
Speaker 1: buy it. And then he gives one of the other
Speaker 1: doormen a twenty and says, why don't you split this
Speaker 1: with Tim who was the original doorman? And what he
Speaker 1: said he had no small bills. I thought he only
Speaker 1: had hundreds. I didn't realize he had twenties. And then
Speaker 1: what happens is one of my peeps. When you're checking
Speaker 1: into a hotel, when they start to give you the
Speaker 1: rundown and the instructions, it drives me fucking crazy. I
Speaker 1: know they're doing their job, but when they bring you
Speaker 1: up to the room and they start to tell you, oh,
Speaker 1: the showers over here, and the phone is over here,
Speaker 1: and the blah blah's over here, and the blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: and Larry starts to make fun of it. That's a window,
Speaker 1: I know. That's for looking out. And that's this you know,
Speaker 1: because they goes a.
Speaker 2: Floor, it's for standing. I want to talk about that actor.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know who he is.
Speaker 2: I do know who he is, and our listeners know
Speaker 2: who he is. He a lovely gentleman who, by the way,
Speaker 2: you can see in the episode him breaking when Larry
Speaker 2: does the floor in the windows. I bet you we
Speaker 2: didn't have a take without him breaking. That's Zachary Levi.
Speaker 2: Zachary Levi. I don't know if it's that point. He
Speaker 2: had a TV series as like a Secret Agent comedy
Speaker 2: an NBC or it was after this point, bing is
Speaker 2: he's a big movie star. He's Shazam in the Shazam movie.
Speaker 1: Really okay?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And by the way, when you met that
Speaker 2: dude back then, you went, oh, this guy's a star.
Speaker 2: This guy's definitely going to be a star.
Speaker 1: And he was, and.
Speaker 2: He became a big movie star.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed that. When you see some well like we
Speaker 1: just talked about you vet Nicole Brown, yes, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's very excited. And then she became a big star. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's fun. And he says to this guy, Zachary Levi,
Speaker 1: I don't have any small bills. I'll get you tomorrow.
Speaker 1: You seem dubious. He goes through the whole song and gifts,
Speaker 1: and he's like, it's NOTTSY to give you a twenty,
Speaker 1: isn't it. It's not sy to give you a twenty.
Speaker 1: So you call you say, let's go for a drink.
Speaker 1: Larry wants to study lines, and you're like, adam it,
Speaker 1: you've only got three days. You got to come down
Speaker 1: to the bar and meet some chicks.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: So he finally says, I'll meet you in a half hour. No,
Speaker 1: here's what you say, Jeff, which maybe laugh meet some gals.
Speaker 1: He said, you need to meet some gals.
Speaker 2: Do you know where that came from, Carol Garland?
Speaker 1: Your mother sat some gals.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And by the way, you know what you know.
Speaker 2: I love saying fellas fellas, Hey fellas two men or more, Hey,
Speaker 2: fellas fellas, and it always gets a very unique response.
Speaker 1: Of fellas, laughter and fellas and gals.
Speaker 2: And by when I write it in my emails, hey fellas,
Speaker 2: and then I always put a comma, yes fellas.
Speaker 1: I say, fellas yells great.
Speaker 2: Wasn't there a show called Fellas Good Fellas? That's a movie. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I think there was a show called was something
Speaker 2: Fellas in it?
Speaker 1: And he goes, you would no, I don't remember. He
Speaker 1: goes down to the bar and you are sitting there
Speaker 1: with a giggling blonde Christina.
Speaker 2: Who plays her because she was so good.
Speaker 1: She was very good. I didn't look that up. And
Speaker 1: Larry and Christina start talking. He says that he is
Speaker 1: a pet groomer, that he has a truck and goes
Speaker 1: around peck grooming.
Speaker 2: He said, we groom dogs and pets, and I said,
Speaker 2: we don't do it. We have a team, and Larry
Speaker 2: and I sit in front. Think of it, Larry and
Speaker 2: I sitting in the front of a truck. Well behind us,
Speaker 2: there's they're grooming. What are we doing there?
Speaker 1: I have that for my dog. A truck comes.
Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, we do we have that here
Speaker 2: with our dogs. And they do the best job. I
Speaker 2: can't watch. They give you that little window to watch.
Speaker 2: I just I'm not a fan of.
Speaker 1: What it's like here. Take them, bring them back.
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 1: And then we find out that Christina is a fillatio teacher.
Speaker 1: Now I assume that was in the outline.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, that wasn't the outline.
Speaker 1: For sure, that wasn't the outline. She didn't make that up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, no, Well, I say to her,
Speaker 2: here's how much of a setup it is. Tell him
Speaker 2: what you do, knowing full well.
Speaker 1: What she does.
Speaker 2: And Larry knows that.
Speaker 1: And Larry is disgusted by that. He's like, how can
Speaker 1: anybody do that without a blindfold? And the penises group.
Speaker 2: No, he's not. He's not disgusted that she teaches that.
Speaker 2: He's always surprised that how would you do it without
Speaker 2: a blind without.
Speaker 1: Then he uses the word grotesque for the penis and
Speaker 1: she's it's it's beautiful and it's sad if anyone doesn't
Speaker 1: get to experience it and whatever. Next thing we know,
Speaker 1: Larry and Christina are at a Mexican restaurant. I will
Speaker 1: tell you this. This scene didn't work for me, so
Speaker 1: I'm not afraid to say that.
Speaker 2: Jeff Garland, Okay, it worked for me because the only
Speaker 2: premise was that she'd leaved once she said.
Speaker 1: Let's go through the scene. Okay, it's spicy food, and
Speaker 1: she tells him that spicy food makes a man's calm
Speaker 1: taste spicy.
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no no, it gives it
Speaker 2: a delicious taste.
Speaker 1: She thinks it a delicious taste.
Speaker 5: Okay, I love spicy, shod I love it.
Speaker 1: I love spicy. Did you know that spicy food makes
Speaker 1: a man's taste delicious?
Speaker 2: I did not know that. I did not know that.
Speaker 5: True Jenny did not know that.
Speaker 2: Delicious.
Speaker 1: And she wrote a book. And Larry starts choking, and
Speaker 1: he starts sweating, and he starts blowing his nose, and
Speaker 1: he's got a napkin on his head and he's drooling.
Speaker 2: Before this, she asks him, what's your favorite blow job?
Speaker 2: What do you like best to buy a blowjob? And
Speaker 2: I thought, if that isn't the best question that a
Speaker 2: man could hear what he answered, He didn't.
Speaker 1: He didn't.
Speaker 2: He started losing his shit. Yeah, And the purpose of
Speaker 2: the scene was he loses his shit and she walks away.
Speaker 1: She's grossed out by him and she is turned off
Speaker 1: and she leaves. So there's another possibility of an anniversary
Speaker 1: gift down the drain again. But I just didn't buy
Speaker 1: the It was too much for me, the sweating, and
Speaker 1: I just did.
Speaker 2: By the way, that was filmed at Ernie's Mexican Restaurant
Speaker 2: on Lancashim in.
Speaker 1: North Hollywood, not in New York, you see.
Speaker 2: No, No, Bob Hope, that was his favorite Mexican too,
Speaker 2: he lived down the street. Yeah, because I believe it's
Speaker 2: on More Park in Lancasham. Maybe it's not. But anyhow,
Speaker 2: the interiors of the hotel, except for the lower level
Speaker 2: stuff you know by the front desk, that's all filmed
Speaker 2: in New York. But the scenes with the hotel rooms,
Speaker 2: that's the Roosevelt Hotel in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, famous, very famous hotel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, old time.
Speaker 1: So Christina, the flatio teacher leaves and then Larry's in
Speaker 1: bed doing lines and his loud music, really loud music
Speaker 1: coming next door with thumping, a lot of thumping, And
Speaker 1: he goes and knocks on the door and it's Swimmer's
Speaker 1: room and Swimmer is having a party and he doesn't
Speaker 1: invite Larry in, and he tells Larry that he lost
Speaker 1: his watch. It's a black tag and it's got some whatever. Sapphires,
Speaker 1: I forgot what it is. And Larry's like, it's Jeff
Speaker 1: Jennifer Edison. He's looking in the room. It's Jennifer Anderson
Speaker 1: in there.
Speaker 2: Well, by the way, he doesn't do it that excitingly.
Speaker 2: He does it where he's excited and curious, Hey, is
Speaker 2: that Jennifer Aniston in there? By the way. He is
Speaker 2: so funny in this scene looking around him, and Shwimmer
Speaker 2: is such a perfect foil. Both Bench Stiller and David
Speaker 2: Schwimmer ran with these parts. All right. I cannot believe
Speaker 2: how great Ben was, and I cannot believe how great
Speaker 2: Swimmer was. I mean really great, extraordinarily great.
Speaker 1: And I do believe that another couple comes in to
Speaker 1: go to the party. I believe that's John Corn, who
Speaker 1: was one of our editors, with I didn't see.
Speaker 2: Who he was with Megan Megan Murphy.
Speaker 1: Oh was that Megan? I didn't realize was with.
Speaker 2: John Corn who she's the post productions supervisor was Yeah,
Speaker 2: she didn't get fired.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And John Corn, who was one of our editors
Speaker 2: and a guy who's edited a couple of my movies
Speaker 2: and also other things.
Speaker 1: Also a director.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he directed actually The Goldbergs a few times. Oh really,
Speaker 2: you know editors. Here's a little fun fact for our listeners.
Speaker 2: The best job that's not a director to become a
Speaker 2: director is not a director of photography. Although he could
Speaker 2: make it look good. I should say they could make
Speaker 2: it look good because that's the process.
Speaker 1: It's not an assistant director, which is a completely different job.
Speaker 2: No, but the ads become directors sometimes. But the reason
Speaker 2: that editors, yeah, become the best directors is because they
Speaker 2: know when they're editing, they know the tone, they know everything.
Speaker 2: The one thing they don't know how to do is
Speaker 2: talk to actors. They have no because they're in that
Speaker 2: dark room. They know everything about what.
Speaker 1: Needs to putting it together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they have no idea how to tell an actor.
Speaker 2: But that can be learned.
Speaker 1: But also I think it's important for people to understand,
Speaker 1: especially on this show, how important the editing is when
Speaker 1: you're improvising and we don't know. Usually you know, when
Speaker 1: you get a script, it's generally a page a minute.
Speaker 1: So if you're doing a thirty minute show, it's a
Speaker 1: thirty minute script. We don't have a script, and we
Speaker 1: could go on outline.
Speaker 2: That's seven pages.
Speaker 1: Right, and we'll go on and on. So so so
Speaker 1: much is done in the editing to create the timing
Speaker 1: of the show that's not done in the shooting. It's
Speaker 1: not it's not.
Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of editors, my favorite editor to
Speaker 2: become a director was Hal Ashby, and hal Ashby directed
Speaker 2: some amazing movies. My favorite movie he directed was Being
Speaker 2: There with Peter Seller. Great movie, A Complete Mask.
Speaker 1: We watched that recently, like a year ago, so.
Speaker 2: That one I know holds up. It was the name
Speaker 2: of the guy Rafael. Do you know Rafael? That he
Speaker 2: keeps asking people because Rafael was some sort of criminal
Speaker 2: and no matter.
Speaker 1: What, oh yeah I know Rafael.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure. But his performance. But also
Speaker 2: hal Ashby, what a ragical director. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then we are in Larry's room and the handyman
Speaker 1: is fixing the ac, and the handyman is seek obviously
Speaker 1: has a turban, and Larry's just marveling at it. He's like,
Speaker 1: I could never do that. What you do is fix
Speaker 1: an ac. You know, many years ago the first house
Speaker 1: that we got, my husband, Jimmy was finishing the basement
Speaker 1: by himself because he used to build houses. I told
Speaker 1: Larry that Jimmy was finishing the basement. He was just like,
Speaker 1: what do you mean. He's got guys coming right. He's like, no,
Speaker 1: he's doing himself. He's got a crew. He could not
Speaker 1: fathom that somebody I was married to was actually hands
Speaker 1: on with hammer and nail finishing.
Speaker 2: Why and this is one of the stereotypes because he's
Speaker 2: a Jew.
Speaker 1: Yes, well he says that.
Speaker 2: Right. My wife know early on I will not be
Speaker 2: repairing anything I can do. By the way, what I've
Speaker 2: always been skilled at is electronics and computers.
Speaker 1: Yes, you're very good at that.
Speaker 2: I used to go bring my computer into the Genius
Speaker 2: bar to have something fixed or turn it in to
Speaker 2: go off from your pair and I the people that
Speaker 2: were there, including I bumped into friends. I would fix
Speaker 2: their computer before the Genius got to them. No, I
Speaker 2: know that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I personally feel that to have a husband who
Speaker 1: is not handy, what's the point you need to have
Speaker 1: a handy husband.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can say that because.
Speaker 1: Because I have a handsome husband.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, you have the ultimate. By the way,
Speaker 2: can I also say I have a Sari my girlfriend,
Speaker 2: my partner. I love saying that my partner, she is
Speaker 2: our handymaner.
Speaker 1: She's good at that stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, she because she doesn't finish until she's
Speaker 2: done it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not betting. You know what I'm very good at,
Speaker 1: surprisingly not computer stuff, but any TV stuff. The cable
Speaker 1: goes out, I could figure it out. I don't know
Speaker 1: how I do it, but somehow I figure it out.
Speaker 1: And Jimmy's bad at it.
Speaker 2: Do you know what you're really great at? Making a
Speaker 2: delicious apple brown betty?
Speaker 1: Who doesn't love an apple brown betty?
Speaker 2: Do you know what an apple brown betty is?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crumbles, and it's the apples and it's a crumble.
Speaker 2: I think you just said it's apples and a crumble.
Speaker 1: I think that's what it is.
Speaker 2: No, but that line, No, you said it's crumbles before,
Speaker 2: and then you went right to an apple and a
Speaker 2: crumble was just very funny. But yeah, it's kind of
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: So Larry is carrying on that he could never do that,
Speaker 1: he could never fix air condition. He's very impressed with
Speaker 1: this guy. And this is when the room service comes,
Speaker 1: and anybody who has ever stayed in a halfway decent
Speaker 1: hotel and ordered room service has had the sticker shock
Speaker 1: of breakfast. Fifty three dollars, it's breakfast. Then he's like,
Speaker 1: is the tip included eighteen percent? Do people give you more?
Speaker 1: And then cousin Andy shows up in the middle of
Speaker 1: all this.
Speaker 2: Richard, by the way, I'm looking it up on my computer.
Speaker 1: Brown bad.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's quicker No who played the Sikh. Because he's
Speaker 2: a friend of mine and he's a very successful stand
Speaker 2: up comedian.
Speaker 1: That's terrific.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Maz Gibbroni, Maz Gibroni, who is immensely successful and
Speaker 2: I can say, easily top five of the nicest people
Speaker 2: I've ever met in comedy. I just want to throw
Speaker 2: that out there.
Speaker 1: Great, I've never met him, so I'm going to trust him.
Speaker 2: So he's an excellent dude, excellent comedian. Yeah, but that
Speaker 2: might have been his first job.
Speaker 1: But then cousin Andy shows up and I have met him,
Speaker 1: which is Richard Kunt And first thing he says to
Speaker 1: Larry is mister f.
Speaker 2: And then of course he says.
Speaker 1: How is play practice?
Speaker 2: Well, that's later on he goes, well, first off, he's
Speaker 2: Larry goes, I called you yes.
Speaker 1: I called yes, which is because earlier episode.
Speaker 2: But then when he said how's play practic the way
Speaker 2: he says it, how's play practice going? Well, I didn't
Speaker 2: know that was a real term, and I had to
Speaker 2: control myself when he said the term play.
Speaker 1: Practice meaning rehearsal.
Speaker 2: Yes, But I found out that's actually something that people
Speaker 2: have said. I don't know. I think adults in the
Speaker 2: theater who say it are hearkening back to when they
Speaker 2: were very young.
Speaker 1: Cousin Andy makes the reference that's what we did in
Speaker 1: high school when we were doing Pippin. We had play
Speaker 1: practice after school when we were doing Pippin, and you
Speaker 1: just I just sensed that that was true for Richard.
Speaker 1: But he really did have play practice.
Speaker 2: By the way, my style of improvisation, which works well
Speaker 2: for me with Larry, is in that moment and I'm
Speaker 2: not Larry did great stuff, but I'm saying if he
Speaker 2: tells me that I would say to him, who did
Speaker 2: you play in Pippin? Yes, I love I'm a big investigator,
Speaker 2: which which is basically throwing softballs. The other improvise exactly.
Speaker 1: You don't know what somebody said, can come up with golds,
Speaker 1: but that's.
Speaker 2: My way of being a supportive actor is to give
Speaker 2: them throw them a softball, and it's up to you
Speaker 2: to either hit a grounder or out of the park.
Speaker 2: But it's an easy way to hit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's great. It's a good technique.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll be right back. Stay tuned, and we're back.
Speaker 1: And then Andy says, I don't see you doing it
Speaker 1: at all, but you'll be great. He's singing and dancing,
Speaker 1: and then he says to him, which also cracked me up,
Speaker 1: tomorrow you want to go to Westchester and go to
Speaker 1: open houses.
Speaker 2: And you know he improvised that, which is.
Speaker 1: Brilliant, and play practice he improvised, yeah, totally. And then
Speaker 1: the ac guy Sanjay is his name is Finish and
Speaker 1: he's and he's waiting for his tip and Larry never
Speaker 1: tips him, and then he finally leaves and Larry's am
Speaker 1: I supposed to tip that guy? And then uh, the
Speaker 1: maid comes.
Speaker 2: No, no, hold on, did we go over what he
Speaker 2: says about the check for the breakfast? Yeah, he did.
Speaker 2: We went over there three percent?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mentioned that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then Larry says, I'll give you to.
Speaker 1: I'll give you two percent more. Yeah.
Speaker 2: By the way, does my brain float to another plan?
Speaker 1: Adhd?
Speaker 2: Jeff, we all severy adhd. I've been told by doctors.
Speaker 2: But nonetheless, I.
Speaker 1: Didn't mention the two percent. I will say this. I
Speaker 1: mentioned the eighteen percent, like it's so cheap, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So okay. So the maid then comes in and Larry
Speaker 1: sees on her cart David Swimmer's watch is sitting on
Speaker 1: her cart, the tag watch, and he calls and leaves
Speaker 1: a message for Swimmer, and he tells him he found
Speaker 1: the watch, and he's got the watch, and then he leaves.
Speaker 1: He sees Tim the doorman. He's like, is everything straightened out?
Speaker 1: Tim the dormant has no idea what he's talking about.
Speaker 2: Everything.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's all straightened out.
Speaker 2: Straightened out.
Speaker 3: What I gave the other doorman? They hevyes that guy
Speaker 3: with the glasses, Yeah, I get him twenty dollars. I
Speaker 3: told him to give you ten. You didn't get the
Speaker 3: ten dollars. No, what he didn't give you any money?
Speaker 2: No, not a dime.
Speaker 5: You sure he didn't give you anything?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 3: In other words, he's got the ten dollars now and
Speaker 3: he chose not to give it to you.
Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying. No, that's what you're saying.
Speaker 3: I'm saying I didn't get ten dollars from him.
Speaker 1: The other dormant did not split the tip with Larry,
Speaker 1: but Larry doesn't know if that's true. Did he really
Speaker 1: not split the tip? And he does a stare down
Speaker 1: with him and then it's okay, okay, And then Tim
Speaker 1: points to and he says, he was upset that you
Speaker 1: didn't take care of him, and do I have to
Speaker 1: tip everybody? He confronts Sanjay and he's like, that's your job.
Speaker 1: But he decides he's going to give him a ticket
Speaker 1: to go see the producers. Is it that night or
Speaker 1: the night after? It's the night after, it's the next night.
Speaker 1: It's not that night.
Speaker 2: But I also want to say little side story. Okay,
Speaker 2: so we're filming in the lobby and this is when
Speaker 2: we are actually checking into the hotel. Okay, at the beginning,
Speaker 2: this is not in the episode, we're checking into the
Speaker 2: hotel and I'm standing next to David and the owner
Speaker 2: of the hotel is enamored with David Shwimmer. I'm invisible,
Speaker 2: and he says right in front of me, the swimmer,
Speaker 2: anything you need, you want to stay here, come stay here,
Speaker 2: will give you a great rate or nothing, please come,
Speaker 2: And then he looks at me and I'm not making
Speaker 2: this up. There was awkward silence like I'm writing a
Speaker 2: comedy scene where he says nothing, and I, of course,
Speaker 2: because of who I am, I said, you realize what
Speaker 2: you just did. I want to point out the exact
Speaker 2: thing you were enamored with, and this is for a swimmer,
Speaker 2: you were enamored like. I didn't not address it, and
Speaker 2: he said, oh, take care of you too, yeah, which
Speaker 2: would mean I'll upgrade your room or.
Speaker 1: Something you'll get like, you know, a mint.
Speaker 2: Yeah. By the way, you gotta get used to this
Speaker 2: because when you're with someone who's i'm gonna say, more
Speaker 2: a bigger star than you are, or more successful, like
Speaker 2: when I'm with Larry. Sometimes people have asked me to
Speaker 2: hold the camera to take pictures of them with Larry,
Speaker 2: like you are as invisible a person as can be.
Speaker 2: And that's why I always I wanted I was thinking
Speaker 2: about whenever I write my autobiography, calling it the guy,
Speaker 2: the guy with the camera, because it refers to that.
Speaker 2: And also I'm a photographer, so the guy with the camera,
Speaker 2: because I can't tell you how many times I've been
Speaker 2: handed a camera.
Speaker 1: I don't mind. I don't mind being in visible.
Speaker 2: No, I don't either. I'm not upset, but I notice,
Speaker 2: and I think it's interesting. But you know, there you go.
Speaker 2: So little side story.
Speaker 1: And so Larry is at the theater and there are
Speaker 1: a couple of tourists waiting online and they asked Larry
Speaker 1: to take a picture, and it's Stephen Colbert and Maddy Gormanno,
Speaker 1: another New York actress, and Colbert starts to go ask
Speaker 1: ask Larry to take a picture of them. It becomes
Speaker 1: a whole big thing of is it horizontal? Is it vertical?
Speaker 1: He starts screaming at his wife, and it was just
Speaker 1: a very brilliant little moment, little little gem. And then
Speaker 1: he gets really angry at at Larry because Larry does
Speaker 1: want to put him and he does like a curse.
Speaker 1: He does. You will fail with his.
Speaker 2: The way he does weird awesome, it's fantasy, but I
Speaker 2: also want to hear's a little story and a lesson
Speaker 2: for anyone out there who is an actor. Robert Smigel,
Speaker 2: we filmed section with him. I forgot what happened and
Speaker 2: it was great, and it.
Speaker 1: Got cut in this episode and.
Speaker 2: The producers yes, at the same time as Stephen Colbert,
Speaker 2: there was another part to it, and it was Smigel
Speaker 2: who got cast.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, I'm glad that it got cut
Speaker 1: because then he got to be in seasonal.
Speaker 2: It's the point. But here's the thing. Not only when
Speaker 2: you got cut, especially if you did a good job,
Speaker 2: you've made an impression. I know not, but but not
Speaker 2: only that. The biggest lesson here is Smigel was smart.
Speaker 2: He didn't tell anybody he was going to be on
Speaker 2: the show. There are so many people who've gotten cut
Speaker 2: where everybody in the world expected that they were going
Speaker 2: to be on the show and it was terribly embarrassing
Speaker 2: for them. And by the way, with very few exceptions,
Speaker 2: most of the people got cut just because the story and
Speaker 2: they were fantastic. But Smigel knew that you don't tell
Speaker 2: people when you're in something. And the other thing is
Speaker 2: Larry David called him. I also called him too, because
Speaker 2: he's one of my best pals. That he wasn't going
Speaker 2: to be in the show, but he did.
Speaker 1: End up coming in season eight in a hilarious recurring part. Hilarious.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 1: One time I was in a big movie. I had
Speaker 1: a small part, but it was a funny, very funny
Speaker 1: scene that I did in a big movie. And the
Speaker 1: director called me the night of the premiere to tell
Speaker 1: me that I was cut, but he also told me
Speaker 1: he was leaving my name in the credits so I
Speaker 1: would still get all the residuals.
Speaker 2: And I do who was this director?
Speaker 1: I don't want to say.
Speaker 2: That's a kind thing.
Speaker 1: I just don't feel like going now. I just don't
Speaker 1: feel like going.
Speaker 2: Well. I actually it actually ruined a relationship. Somebody I
Speaker 2: was not close friends but I was friends with produced
Speaker 2: a very famous TV show Okay, and I guest starred
Speaker 2: on the TV show. And I didn't even know when
Speaker 2: the episode was airing, and someone told me, this is
Speaker 2: the episode that's on tonight. Oh shit, I'm in that episode.
Speaker 2: I watch it. I'm not in it. I got cut,
Speaker 2: but he never called and he was a friend of
Speaker 2: mine and I was pretty angry. Now I would have
Speaker 2: ignored it and knew what he was about, you know what,
Speaker 2: but I actually share with him. I told him, I go,
Speaker 2: that was not kind. I go, I'm a producer. I
Speaker 2: know I call people when they're cut and have to
Speaker 2: tell them. I've had to do that numerous times. And
Speaker 2: I go, it's not a fun phone call. I said,
Speaker 2: I have your job. I know what it's like. You
Speaker 2: could have easily called me and said, oh, you're cut.
Speaker 2: And he said he forgot whatever. It was inexcusable.
Speaker 1: I agree. So so we go from from Colbert's you
Speaker 1: will fail.
Speaker 2: But I want to say that it's inexcusable, but I'm
Speaker 2: grateful for the life I have. I'm gonna say that
Speaker 2: from that one. Whenever I complained about your business stuff,
Speaker 2: I'm just greatful.
Speaker 1: Moving on, I know, sweet, And we are now we're
Speaker 1: now in the rehearsal studio and we're at a table
Speaker 1: reading Susan Strowman, the wonderful director is there, and Larry
Speaker 1: has his She was great too, She was terrific. And
Speaker 1: Larry has his glasses, which are very similar to his
Speaker 1: father's glasses. I noticed in NAT's glasses and Schwimmer asks
Speaker 1: him for his watch, and Larry goes through his pockets
Speaker 1: and doesn't have the watch, can't find the watch, and
Speaker 1: Shwimmer tells them, well, you owe me a watch and
Speaker 1: a whole uh you know. Larry's like, I don't know
Speaker 1: what to say, and you could say, I'm sorry, I'll
Speaker 1: buy you a new watch, and everybody weighs in. It
Speaker 1: becomes a cause celeb and you know, Mels, the big mcgilla.
Speaker 2: But I've thought it's somebody to do with being a
Speaker 2: famous person.
Speaker 1: Well it does, but it's also just used in that fashion.
Speaker 1: And then bit Mel chaos, chaos, and and Mel points
Speaker 1: out the whole point at the show is that Max
Speaker 1: and Leo love each other, and you know, and then
Speaker 1: Larry starts acting like he has OCD and arranging the
Speaker 1: bottles of water and arranging everything on the.
Speaker 2: Table, putting on a show for Katie.
Speaker 1: Katie is right next to him, and then he rearranges again,
Speaker 1: and then you see Katie's totally turned on, totally turned
Speaker 1: and then Mel moves some things and Larry rearranges and
Speaker 1: Katie's just turned on. And then he's out on the
Speaker 1: street with Katie talking about the watch. And Katie agrees
Speaker 1: with him, and some guy comes, you know, a mugger,
Speaker 1: and grabs her bag and starts running. She looks at Larry,
Speaker 1: you know, like expectantly, like, and he runs after the guy.
Speaker 1: And he's running after the guy and that Larry run,
Speaker 1: you know, the long legged, lanky Larry run he has.
Speaker 1: And then the guy, the mugger, turns around and looks
Speaker 1: at him, and Larry runs the other way.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: So funny. That's silent movie stuff. Yeah, very funny, so funny.
Speaker 1: And then we're back at the hotel and it's an
Speaker 1: opening night montage of him giving out tickets to Tim,
Speaker 1: to Sanjay, to all the people that work there. He
Speaker 1: gets a paper, he sees the ad for it. It's
Speaker 1: a big excitement, has a meltdown in the dressing room
Speaker 1: with Nathan Lane, which I found very funny.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: He's like, I can't do it. I can't do it,
Speaker 1: and Nathan's like, fuck up, buddy, go out there and
Speaker 1: kill him. And then he knocks on Shwimmer's door. They're
Speaker 1: at the hotel and he says, you want to go over,
Speaker 1: and Swimmer's like, I got an hour and a half.
Speaker 1: I'm going to sit here and stretch and he says
Speaker 1: to what's your warm up? You have a warm up
Speaker 1: and nothing, and Larry's like, he says, again, you're going
Speaker 1: to reimburse me for the watch, And Larry says, did
Speaker 1: you tell the stewardess that my seat was not upright?
Speaker 1: He brings that back. Then he goes to the theater.
Speaker 1: He sees the marquee. It's very exciting actually for me
Speaker 1: watching it. I found that.
Speaker 2: And by the way, it was so exciting hanging out
Speaker 2: the theater, hanging out back stage of the theater, being
Speaker 2: on stage of that theater, it was so exciting. And
Speaker 2: your sister was around a couple times. Oh yeah, okay, yeah, no,
Speaker 2: you had her come visit, and it was it was
Speaker 2: so much fun being on Broadway in New York.
Speaker 1: Oh, of course it's Broadway. And by the way, if.
Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, we all went to see the show
Speaker 2: when we first got there. And if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 2: Richard kind was Max Biallistock. Oh in that verseion of
Speaker 2: the producers.
Speaker 1: Oh, we have to find out about that. Okay. So
Speaker 1: then he's backstage and Katie opens her dressing room door
Speaker 1: and she calls him in and he's a wreck, and
Speaker 1: she has rituals, the whole thing, you know. He wants
Speaker 1: to bang his head against the wall, and she thanks
Speaker 1: him for running after the mugger, and he tells her
Speaker 1: if he didn't go into show busy, he was going
Speaker 1: to become a fireman. And Katie says to him, I've
Speaker 1: been thinking about that tenth anniversary present of yours. You
Speaker 1: want to come in, Come in, close the door, and
Speaker 1: then we see them making out, and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, he sees an eight x ten framed photo
Speaker 1: of George W. Bush. Was that.
Speaker 5: Is that Bush?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got a fiction of Bush in your dressing room.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're a Republican.
Speaker 1: Yes, Larry, I'm a Republican. He's he can't fuck her.
Speaker 1: He can't fuck a Republican. And then you're backstage and
Speaker 1: you say to him, i'd fuck her with a Bush
Speaker 1: mask on.
Speaker 2: I did say that, that's right.
Speaker 1: And then Larry's in his Max Biali Stot costume and
Speaker 1: he's like, he says, I look eighty five years old,
Speaker 1: and Andy calls him backstage, cousin Andy, and he's at
Speaker 1: the will call window. They don't have his ticket, and
Speaker 1: he's just being a nudge and annoying, and so Larry
Speaker 1: tells him he'll meet him, He'll meet him at the
Speaker 1: window and he goes on the hands. He's like, they
Speaker 1: don't have them, and then Larry cuts in the line,
Speaker 1: and then Lee Wilcox, who's a terrific actor. R. Lovely,
Speaker 1: is on the line telling him you can't cut. And
Speaker 1: then he sees Sanja and Sanjay has the tag watch on.
Speaker 1: He found it at the hotel, so clearly let drop
Speaker 1: down of Larry's pocket and he tells him that's David
Speaker 1: Swimmer's watch and Sanja as finders Keepers and that whole
Speaker 1: thing ensues and he fights with Sanjay, and then Cheryl's
Speaker 1: there watching it. Push Cheryl has seen all this way
Speaker 1: too many times and she says happy anniversary to him.
Speaker 1: How did the gift go? The gift was not happening.
Speaker 1: And then we see Colbert in the audience and Colbert
Speaker 1: makes the evil sign at him. Then they're backstage ready
Speaker 1: to go on, and he gives Swim of the watch
Speaker 1: and his apologies and they hug and let's all water
Speaker 1: under the bridge, let's start over, let's have a great time.
Speaker 1: And of course Larry can't help himself and says, did
Speaker 1: you tell the stewardess that my seat was not upright?
Speaker 2: There was a big producer's trailer that we would meet him,
Speaker 2: you know, And one day in that trailer, Larry, Charles
Speaker 2: and I are just watching this. We're watching Jerry Seinfeld,
Speaker 2: mel Brooks, and Larry David talk. And as I sat there,
Speaker 2: I went, wow, I'm watching legends. I'm in here, and
Speaker 2: I'm privy to watching Legends. Yes, Larry and Charles and
Speaker 2: I participated some, but we mostly watched because we both
Speaker 2: knew what we were watching and it was so remarkable.
Speaker 2: It was so much fun to watch, and they were
Speaker 2: funny and they were interesting. But that's like a moment
Speaker 2: I have from the show that I'll never forget, never forget.
Speaker 2: And also I remember walking around with Jerry and I go,
Speaker 2: I get recognized. How the hell do you walk around
Speaker 2: New York? And he told me what he does is
Speaker 2: he wears a baseball cap low with sunglasses, and I thought,
Speaker 2: who the fuck's not going to recognize you with it?
Speaker 2: He was completely cond This might be the only time
Speaker 2: Jerry has ever been wrong, because he's taught me so
Speaker 2: many things. And he said that I tried it, and
Speaker 2: I'm one one zillient, this famous as Jerry Seinfeld. And
Speaker 2: ain't nobody not recognizing me?
Speaker 1: I know who I am, but you are a large Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're more noticeable. You're larger, you got a big head,
Speaker 1: you have a booming voice. I could very easily not
Speaker 1: get recognized. I put on a baseball cap and sunglasses
Speaker 1: walking around Manhattan. Nobody especially, So it's based on the
Speaker 1: timber of your voice, whatever body size. I'm surprised. Sometimes
Speaker 1: there has been instances during COVID when I had a
Speaker 1: mask on and sunglasses and somebody recognized me just when
Speaker 1: I start to speak. That's when they can. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, by the way, that's the thing for me. I
Speaker 2: go to the grocery store, up and down the aisles,
Speaker 2: up and down the ouss. Ain't nobody bothering me. Ain't
Speaker 2: nobody saying anything to me. When I get to the
Speaker 2: thing and I'm exchange, I'm talking to the person behind
Speaker 2: the register.
Speaker 1: What is that, cashier?
Speaker 2: Cashier? People hear my voice. Yes, and I'm not very famous,
Speaker 2: and they two or three people because also I did
Speaker 2: a lot of Pixar movies, so all the voice is
Speaker 2: my giveaway. Yes, my large head. But the real giveaway
Speaker 2: for me always is when I open my mouth.
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll be right back, stay tuned.
Speaker 4: Okay, we're back.
Speaker 1: Then we see that Sanjay is sitting in front of
Speaker 1: Richard Kine with his turban and Richard kink cousin Andy
Speaker 1: can't see. You see that he's nonplused. He can't see.
Speaker 1: Then we're backstage. Mail comes backstage for some reason. He's
Speaker 1: spelling everything, and then the curtain comes up. It's opening night.
Speaker 1: I found this so thrilling to watch this. You know,
Speaker 1: there's something about the live theater experience. They're doing opening night.
Speaker 1: They're doing the worst show in town. The audience is laughing,
Speaker 1: everything is going well, fantastic, and that we see Jeff
Speaker 1: in the audience and Cheryl and the audience just beaming
Speaker 1: and felling. And then Schwimmer enters the office and that
Speaker 1: you know, he starts telling him the more money, it's
Speaker 1: very interesting, the more money you could You could make
Speaker 1: more money with a flop than a hit. And Larry
Speaker 1: goes up on his lines. He doesn't know what to say,
Speaker 1: and it gets really awkward and uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: You were saying.
Speaker 3: That under the right circumstances, what was I saying that
Speaker 3: under the right circumstances.
Speaker 1: And then this wasn't totally realistic. People just get up
Speaker 1: and leave in drugs. People don't leave that quick from
Speaker 1: an expensive Broadway.
Speaker 2: Well, by the way, it is what it is. I agreed,
Speaker 2: and I believe I said something, but sometimes.
Speaker 1: Whatever, Yeah, And then we see Jerry in the audience cringing,
Speaker 1: and we see Colbert in the audience smug and then
Speaker 1: Jerry gets up and leaves, which again that was not
Speaker 1: really that's his friend, He's going to get up and
Speaker 1: leave whatever. One of the things I do know is
Speaker 1: that when anybody knows who you are, it's very difficult
Speaker 1: to leave a show, even at intermission, especially if friends
Speaker 1: of yours are in the show. That's a very difficult thing.
Speaker 1: And Larry starts. The audience is leaving, and Larry starts improvising,
Speaker 1: and mel leaves, also very important, mel leaves. We see
Speaker 1: Melo is behind, you know, walking back and forth behind
Speaker 1: the seats, and mel leaves, and Andy starts fighting with Sanjo.
Speaker 1: Not yet, not yet. The next next scene, again Andy
Speaker 1: starts fighting with Sanjay, saying, you don't wear a hat
Speaker 1: to the theater. Wear a hat and Larry comes out.
Speaker 1: He introduces my cousin Andy. He's a product of incest.
Speaker 1: Primary reason for anti semitis he starts doing bits and
Speaker 1: then he starts going into the stand up and talks
Speaker 1: about the turbine everything, and the audience starts laughing, and
Speaker 1: he's killing. He's killing, and he saves the scene, which
Speaker 1: is so funny because if you've ever seen the original
Speaker 1: movie of the Producers, it's exactly what Dick Sean does
Speaker 1: where he starts improvising when he's playing you know, the character,
Speaker 1: the German character. Whatever. No, he's not playing the German character.
Speaker 1: What is he playing? Is he playing.
Speaker 2: Shall? Not? Dick Shall one of my favorite actors, played that.
Speaker 2: But nonetheless he's playing Hitler.
Speaker 1: He's playing Hitler. That's right, He's playing Yeah.
Speaker 2: And by the way, one of my favorite all time
Speaker 2: performances is Dick Sean and it's a mad, mad memory's brilliant.
Speaker 1: I rewatched that recently.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, that's wonderful. Anyone who hasn't seen it,
Speaker 2: it's really it's the grand Opus of comedy, you.
Speaker 1: Know, you know, and you know what I want to
Speaker 1: play in the remake. I want to play the ethel
Speaker 1: Mermon character. Oh who else could That's exactly exactly it.
Speaker 2: And I look at that and I just say, they'll
Speaker 2: never cast me. Why not?
Speaker 1: There's a million parts in that you could play, I know.
Speaker 2: But they'll pick up.
Speaker 1: And Larry should play the Milton Borough character.
Speaker 2: There's somebody who will be casting.
Speaker 1: But anyway, but nobody's picked up the phone and called
Speaker 1: me for that.
Speaker 2: But well, okay, you know who I'd like to play
Speaker 2: the Jonathan Winters lay great role. Never be as good
Speaker 2: as Jonathan Winters, you know. Oh, yeah, Dick.
Speaker 1: We're talking about Dick.
Speaker 2: Shawn's performance in It's a Mad, Mad, Mad Mad World.
Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like that.
Speaker 1: Well, he was truly original, and you certainly can't imagine
Speaker 1: anybody else in the movie of the producers playing that part.
Speaker 2: By the way, he passed away on stage. There was
Speaker 2: a thaves and he died. He literally died on stage.
Speaker 2: Albert Brooks and Bob Einstein's father, Parker carcass Or the gentleman.
Speaker 2: I forgot that there was actually he also he killed. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but right after he killed, yeah, I walked off, sat down,
Speaker 2: fell over.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: But this is the only other.
Speaker 1: Thing and what happened with Dick shawn Is he was
Speaker 1: laying quite a while. They didn't know because he was
Speaker 1: such a wacky kind of performer.
Speaker 2: Well, the audience was laughing. They thought it was a bit.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine being in that audience.
Speaker 1: Horrible, And we lost a great one on that one.
Speaker 1: That he was an original anyway. So so Larry is
Speaker 1: doing what Dick Sewan did in the movie, basically improvising
Speaker 1: and doing stand up, and we cut to Melan Anne
Speaker 1: at the bar, laughing and bankrupt, who was in real
Speaker 1: life Mel's wife terrific actress.
Speaker 2: Beyond the terriffic actress, an iconic, legendary actress.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Anne was amazing.
Speaker 2: Well, by the way, was only a few years older
Speaker 2: than Dustin Hoffman.
Speaker 1: When when they did the graduate, I know, and they're
Speaker 1: laughing and enjoying us. Did you see the look on
Speaker 1: their faces?
Speaker 7: And he has freed us from the anchor, from the
Speaker 7: albatross and the producers which has invaded our lives every
Speaker 7: single minute.
Speaker 2: Every hour.
Speaker 7: No more openings in Cleveland, no more sleeping in dirty
Speaker 7: beds in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: With free free it last. Isn't it wonderful?
Speaker 1: How did you know that he could ruin the show.
Speaker 1: The minute I laid.
Speaker 2: Him, I sent him.
Speaker 7: I said, this guy's a disaster. He's a living he's
Speaker 7: a storm. He's like a storm will destroy everything in
Speaker 7: its path. I mean, he's got this gift. Everything he touches,
Speaker 7: he dooms. He's a little cycling, a little tornado destroying
Speaker 7: the Saint James Theater.
Speaker 2: Any minute now, the show will be dead. Here a
Speaker 2: toast to the death of the producers. They had rest
Speaker 2: in peace.
Speaker 1: Everything he touches, he dooms. And they're toasting to the
Speaker 1: death of the producers.
Speaker 2: By the way, this explains the whole season, that's right,
Speaker 2: because his partners were furious at him.
Speaker 1: Norm, Yeah, Paul Mazerski and Rudy de Luca.
Speaker 2: Yeah, actually Paul Mazirski played Norm, but they were furious
Speaker 2: furious at him because they saw the real thing. But
Speaker 2: Mel's like something about this guy, yeah, and he even
Speaker 2: want to tell him he wanted the show to close.
Speaker 1: Mels like something about this ballheaded jew, you know. And
Speaker 1: they're toasting and they're singing by the light of the
Speaker 1: silvery moon, and then it's intermission. In intermission in New York,
Speaker 1: it doesn't really happen much anymore. But people used to
Speaker 1: just go into the bar across the street and have
Speaker 1: a drink during intermission.
Speaker 2: And what would it be called when you snuck.
Speaker 1: In second acting?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's not second you second acted.
Speaker 1: The show, which is when you would sneak in at
Speaker 1: and stand in the back or find an empty seat
Speaker 1: or whatever, And so the audience is raving, raving about
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 2: I actually said one time I second acted. I was
Speaker 2: with Marla in Coconut Grove and Pia Zadora was doing
Speaker 2: her one woman show and Marlon and I are standing
Speaker 2: there and we see it's intermission. I said, do you
Speaker 2: want to? And she had second acted a million shows.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what you do when you're poor in New York,
Speaker 1: you second act.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't sold out, so we found a couple
Speaker 2: of seats and it was an awesome show. She would
Speaker 2: talk to on a screen, Frank Sinatra, Sammy Davis Junior.
Speaker 2: She would have like to have fake conversations with them.
Speaker 2: It was something to behold. But I had done it
Speaker 2: once and no one in the ice slow.
Speaker 1: Well. I used to do it all the time when
Speaker 1: I was poor in New York, and I wanted to
Speaker 1: see a show I couldn't have it. So you see
Speaker 1: the second act.
Speaker 2: Yeah, legendary thing that people love theater do.
Speaker 1: So the audience is raving about it, and he's like, well,
Speaker 1: maybe they're talking about a different show. And then somebody says,
Speaker 1: who would have thought that Larry David would be so great?
Speaker 1: And then there's like there's no Ann and Mel like
Speaker 1: there's no way out. You see, they're dejected, there's no
Speaker 1: way out. Let's go it. And they decide let's go back.
Speaker 1: Maybe this wasn't the majority of the audience. And they
Speaker 1: go into the theater and the whole show is killing
Speaker 1: and I have to say, I so enjoyed watching Larry
Speaker 1: play this part on a stage, even though it was shot.
Speaker 1: You know, we're not live, but he's he he was,
Speaker 1: and he was completely committed to it and he worked
Speaker 1: so hard at it. I know how hard he worked
Speaker 1: at it because he had to learn all those lines.
Speaker 1: He couldn't improvise it. He had to learn all those
Speaker 1: lines and do the dance movements and sing the songs.
Speaker 1: And he was great. And they go back to the
Speaker 1: theater and they're singing the Leo and Max song and
Speaker 1: then they get a standing ovation and we see Cheryl,
Speaker 1: you know, felling, and Larry points to his watch. He's
Speaker 1: got one more hour to get his anniversary gift. But
Speaker 1: it's never gonna happen. And that's it.
Speaker 2: But no, hold on, though, you left out the part
Speaker 2: of Mel crying crying and crying, yeah, man, crying because
Speaker 2: they realized. And also, here's a piece of interesting trivia.
Speaker 2: Larry was offered to really do it on Broadway.
Speaker 1: Yes, I know, as Max Bielis.
Speaker 2: That's how good he was. And Mel saw that, and
Speaker 2: he got offered to do that role, and he considered
Speaker 2: it and then wisely said that, you know, because I
Speaker 2: was actually there was interest in me to do hairspray
Speaker 2: as the mother I didn't want. I thought about it.
Speaker 2: First off, every night to have to put on that
Speaker 2: body suit, which they would have put a lighter one
Speaker 2: on me because they don't have to make me that.
Speaker 2: But the thought of shaving my eyebrows, no fucking way.
Speaker 2: I don't care what's going on, Nless, I'm playing the
Speaker 2: evil character in a James Bond movie who was bald.
Speaker 1: But that's the least of it, Jeff. It is eight
Speaker 1: shows a week.
Speaker 2: Well, no, the exhaustion and knowing me I would get bored.
Speaker 2: But also Larry David in his own play on a.
Speaker 1: Limited Shadow Shadow was at.
Speaker 2: A certain point was like, I can't do this.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, yeah, but it's I mean, I
Speaker 1: have such admiration for these Broadway actors who are also
Speaker 1: musical actors, especially who were singing and dancing eight shows week. Now.
Speaker 1: I know Nathan when Nathan Lane was playing Max Biolli
Speaker 1: stuff which he played for a long time, he was exhausted. Exhausted.
Speaker 2: By the way, do you know who's also exhausted? Anyone
Speaker 2: who does a straight drama.
Speaker 1: It's exhausting too. On Wednesday you're doing two shows. On
Speaker 1: Saturday you're doing two shows. Usually Sunday you do one,
Speaker 1: and then you have one day off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one day one day off. Oh, it's a grinds.
Speaker 2: It's brutal, No, it really is. It's so Look, I
Speaker 2: can tell you when I was about to say, you know,
Speaker 2: it's not exhausting, Certainly, it's tiring. Is a straight comedy.
Speaker 1: Different, very different when you have to sing and dance.
Speaker 2: Like a Neil Simon play. Yeah, is not going to
Speaker 2: knock me off my feet. Although that schedule was.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what. Yeah, it does. I did one,
Speaker 1: but only for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: You know, I was telling somebody this last night, an actor.
Speaker 2: We were having this very conversation and I explain that
Speaker 2: when I do a show, i'm really I'm beholden to
Speaker 2: the audience. Not that any comedian isn't, but because I'm
Speaker 2: mostly an improviser, I'm only as good as the audience
Speaker 2: lets me be. Like, if an audience is loving me,
Speaker 2: I'll reach heights that I every time surprised myself and
Speaker 2: I come off and I'm pumped up. Now if they
Speaker 2: don't give me much, I'm not that great, but they
Speaker 2: don't know. Because I'm professional, I can fake it. But
Speaker 2: when I come off stage for one of those shows,
Speaker 2: I don't even I can't stand covered in sweat. No,
Speaker 2: it's exhausting, It's well, it's not exhausted.
Speaker 1: Well, no, to me, it was. I mean, when you
Speaker 1: get home and destroyed, so you have to do numerous shows,
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's not the two shows.
Speaker 2: And by the way, what's the enemy of every comedian Friday.
Speaker 1: Late Friday light show.
Speaker 2: Because they're tired and they're drunk. That is, I actually
Speaker 2: can go over my forty one year career and maybe
Speaker 2: count on one hand at the most part of a
Speaker 2: second hand the number of great second show Fridays I
Speaker 2: did in forty one fucking years, like maybe five. Maybe
Speaker 2: it just was impossible.
Speaker 1: There are things that the general public doesn't realize how
Speaker 1: important they are. The time, the venue. The venue is essential.
Speaker 1: I mean, you have a bad venue where they can't
Speaker 1: see you or here.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what time, No, it doesn't.
Speaker 1: You know. That's why if you're in a comedy club
Speaker 1: that's set up for comedy and it's a low ceiling
Speaker 1: and you know it's a thing of beauty, that's our.
Speaker 2: Fat people don't understand that low ceilings are very important
Speaker 2: a comedy, not that when someone plays a theater.
Speaker 1: Because laughter is contagious and when you have a low ceiling,
Speaker 1: it hovers and it rolls, but a high ceiling it goes.
Speaker 2: Do you know what's interesting? I twice have done outdoor shows.
Speaker 2: One was the worst show I've ever had in my life.
Speaker 2: That was a private gig for the w Hotels. And
Speaker 2: there's a whole story beyond beyond that that's hilarious, but
Speaker 2: at the time it was overwhelming for me. But I
Speaker 2: recently hosted a show at the Greek Theater out here
Speaker 2: and I killed and I was shocked.
Speaker 1: I wonder if that's set up differently Jeff, in terms
Speaker 1: of well.
Speaker 2: It's a very intimate, you know, unlike the Hollywood Bowl,
Speaker 2: the Greek is very intimate. The Greek's one of my
Speaker 2: favorite places periods.
Speaker 1: So it depends on how I'm there.
Speaker 2: I was shocked because it's a lot more in a
Speaker 2: lot of people. Probably ten thousand people, seven thousand, I'm
Speaker 2: not sure, maybe three thousds. I don't know. But the
Speaker 2: point thing is I realized, Oh, if it's intimate and
Speaker 2: it's set up this way, you're completely right. Wow, I
Speaker 2: can do an outdoor show. I was shocked at how
Speaker 2: well I did.
Speaker 1: I did not expect that. Yeah, so important. But coming
Speaker 1: up next we are going to start season five, which
Speaker 1: might be my favorite season.
Speaker 2: By the way, can I be honest with you say this,
Speaker 2: because I have not rewatched it. I couldn't tell you
Speaker 2: what season it was, what we did that I could.
Speaker 3: Not tell you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, is this the Kidney season? Oh it's a great
Speaker 2: one's great and it has easily our in the history
Speaker 2: of the show. And it's so sentimental to us. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, no it is.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that one of my favorite that's.
Speaker 2: Our You and I agree, it's our favorite scene that
Speaker 2: we've ever done.
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of good ones in this season,
Speaker 1: a lot of great episodes season. So we will see
Speaker 1: you next time and we will start season five. Yes,
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