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Speaker 2: Welcome everyone to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I'm

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Speaker 2: Ken Rosenthal here with Alana Rizzo Alta. The postseason is

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Speaker 1: I Ken, always great to be with you. For everybody

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Speaker 1: the questions in the chat for Grill and Ken. That's

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Speaker 1: let's get into the lead. And we were talking earlier

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Speaker 3: That's right, And if you go back the entire three

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Speaker 3: I don't know that it's a big enough sample size

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Speaker 3: is quite weird that this keeps happening. The Orioles go

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Speaker 3: what the Tigers did to the Astros at Minute May Park.

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Speaker 3: The astros reign of seven straight American League Championship Series

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Speaker 1: How about this ken when I was looking at this

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Speaker 3: Really interesting that these players that were going to discuss

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Speaker 3: Game three is going to be fascinating. The pitching matchup

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Speaker 3: It's going to be a thrilling game, no question, because

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Speaker 1: And it's funny too, because if you look at these

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Speaker 1: and the Milwaukee Brewers are tied for fourth in terms

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Speaker 1: it'd be interesting to see how Game three plays out.

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Speaker 1: we're moving forward. Now we know who the New York

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Speaker 1: But ken to your point, you had an article we're

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Speaker 3: Yes, I published that this morning. And before I even

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Speaker 3: they've all done great and the point of this is

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Speaker 3: here are the Yankees. They're Boogeyman. The Houston Astros are out.

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Speaker 3: The team that has been their nemesis in the American

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Speaker 3: There is a better path than they could have imagined

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Speaker 3: when you spend three hundred million on payroll, and when

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Speaker 3: all know that things can turn topsy turvy in the

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Speaker 3: postseason and big money doesn't always win. But you know what,

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Speaker 3: there are no excuses. The Yankees need to win this

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Speaker 3: next series and frankly they need to win the American League.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they need to get to the World Series. I

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Speaker 1: to your point, no excuses New York Ken Rosenthal does

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Speaker 1: Grill and Ken as we move further towards towards that

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Speaker 1: if you look at the Padres and the Dodgers series,

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Speaker 1: more than having to play. No disrespect to the Central.

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Speaker 1: But to your point, I think the Yankees have a

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Speaker 3: Yes, because their principal rival is out. The Astros are

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Speaker 3: the team that obviously beat the Yankees in seventeen, nineteen

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Speaker 3: ignore that, but it was a reality that they've lost

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Speaker 3: but they're facing perhaps the hottest team in baseball in

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Speaker 1: That's incredible. Yeah, that pitching chaos is working, and obviously

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Speaker 1: All right, Thank you so much, Hughle. We appreciate you

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Speaker 1: being here on fair territory time. Now for Grill and Ken,

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Speaker 1: and we're getting some questions from our friend Rob buck Ken.

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Speaker 1: The first question is involving the Detroit Tigers. He wants

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Speaker 3: Could be now? The difference between Detroit and Arizona is

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Speaker 3: the other pictures famous. So I don't see Detroit in

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Speaker 3: The Tigers are not just getting hot. They've been hot

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Speaker 3: Can it continue against the Guardians? I think it actually can.

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Speaker 3: They are a team that played the Guardians evenly this year.

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Speaker 3: I believe the Guardians were seven and six against them,

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Speaker 3: No question, there's no doubt that he is one of

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Speaker 1: Be honest. When Fully comes out of the bullpen and

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Speaker 1: me is like they're twins, right, all right? Rob Buck

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Speaker 1: Now that hein Bloom is taking over the Cardinals, obviously

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Speaker 1: What does it mean? Is it a complete rebuild? Meeting

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Speaker 3: I don't know that it's a complete rebuild. I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: Now they've already basically parted ways with gold Schmid, at

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Speaker 3: least according to Katie Wu. She says that's not going

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Speaker 3: and you're in this position Goldie's gone, why wouldn't you

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Speaker 3: listen on those guys, and why wouldn't you move them?

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Speaker 3: It seems to me they're resetting their organization and those

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Speaker 1: This is not a question from Rob, It's a question

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Speaker 1: for me to you. Regarding the Cardinals. Are you surprised

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Speaker 1: perhaps that Oliver Marmole is still there and that they

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Speaker 1: Just that cardinal way. Ask Mike Schilt with the San

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Speaker 1: starting to think we're cursed. Come on, you're not the Cubs.

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Speaker 1: What can I look forward to this offseason because I

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, you're not hopeless, CJ. Get off the ledge.

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Speaker 3: They're not cursed. These things happened for a reason. And

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Speaker 3: I would encourage you to read ritually today because I

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Speaker 3: one thing. It wasn't the injuries alone. It wasn't the

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Speaker 3: the foundation of that package. In the end, the offense

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Speaker 3: just seemed to me that they made a lot of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I still don't understand why they pulled Eflyn

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Speaker 1: what's the bigger headline for the Dodgers, whether Mookie finally

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Speaker 3: I would say we're worried about the wrong things, and

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Speaker 1: What do you think I'm worried about the starting pitching.

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Speaker 1: Can I have been the entire season? Landon Knack was

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Speaker 1: Time now to move on from Grill and Ken to

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Speaker 1: Dude and Dork. This is an opportunity for Ken and

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Speaker 3: My dude is actually three different teams, the Tigers, the Royals,

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Speaker 3: And my gosh, when you've got Jose Ramirez on the Guardians,

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Speaker 3: when you've got Bobby Witch Junior on the Royals, you've

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Speaker 3: got some pretty special players in this division as well.

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Speaker 1: Great I love to see in Bobby Wood Junior is

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Speaker 1: a blast, of course, and he's just a man among

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Speaker 1: boys when it comes to those certain things. All right,

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Speaker 1: my dude of the week is Jackson Turio. I mean,

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Speaker 1: obviously we've made a lot about Jackson Merrill probably getting

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Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year. Obviously, Paul Skeens is very much

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Speaker 1: in that conversation. But when you can be in a

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Speaker 1: conversation as the only person to tie Babe Ruth in anything,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty special, let alone in a postseason two go

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Speaker 1: ahead home runs in the postseason. Only only the Great

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Speaker 1: Bambino has done that. So congratulations to Jackson Turio, who

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Speaker 1: doesn't even turn twenty one until March of twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 1: which makes me feel ancient, which is awesome. All Right,

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Speaker 1: how about your dork of the week, Ken, My.

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Speaker 3: Dork of the week I just published a story about this.

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Speaker 3: It's the Miami Marlins dence mid August. Oh here we Gorky,

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Speaker 3: the John Fisher dork of the week. Look at that

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Speaker 3: special honor goes to the Marlins this week. And the

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Speaker 3: reason I am awarding them this special honor is, as

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Speaker 3: I wrote this morning, since mid August, they have let

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Speaker 3: go of more than seventy employees, more than seventy, including

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Speaker 3: their entire coaching staff this week, two of whom were

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Speaker 3: invited back pending the hiring of the next manager. Now,

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Speaker 3: there is always turnover whenever a new head of baseball

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Speaker 3: operations takes over, and Peter Bendix just took over last November.

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Speaker 3: We all understand that everyone in the game understands that this, though,

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Speaker 3: is beyond a normal set of circumstances, a normal turnover

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Speaker 3: that you might see. And I remember a lot of

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Speaker 3: when I first became a baseball writer in the late eighties,

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Speaker 3: rowand Haemond took over as general manager of the Orioles.

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Speaker 3: They had a horrible farm system. They were a complete mess,

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Speaker 3: and he said, you know what, there are some good

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Speaker 3: people here. I just have to find out who they are.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to fire everybody now, I know Bendis

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Speaker 3: has taken a year, but a lot of the great

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Speaker 3: general managers. Pat Gelick was another one. Buster only pointed

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Speaker 3: this out on X yesterday. They don't do this. What

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Speaker 3: they do is they find out who they can keep

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Speaker 3: and who really belongs and they kind of just pushed

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Speaker 3: the organization forward instead of gutting it. This is a

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Speaker 3: gutting and.

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Speaker 1: Not only that can but some of the people that

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Speaker 1: they let go, in my understanding, have nothing to do

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Speaker 1: with the performance on the field. This isn't This is

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Speaker 1: not things that are happening on the field as that

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Speaker 1: relate to wins and losses. I mean, you're just cutting

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Speaker 1: to cut and ry secretariat.

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Speaker 3: Home clubhouse manager.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's just a lot of things that are

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Speaker 1: very disappointing about the way that that went down. All Right,

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Speaker 1: we do have a super chat, so let's get into

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Speaker 1: that before I get into my Dork of the Week.

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Speaker 1: If we can bring that up Derek and Jimmy, that

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Speaker 1: would be great, or if we want to do it

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Speaker 1: after dork that we can do that too. So my

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Speaker 1: Dork of the Week is an organization and it's I

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Speaker 1: don't know who made this decision in the organization but

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Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. The San Diego Padre is limiting who can

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Speaker 1: buy their tickets to postseason games. You are only allowed

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Speaker 1: to purchase tickets if you are in a resident of

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Speaker 1: San Diego County, Southern Orange County, Western Arizona, Las Vegas,

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Speaker 1: and the surrounding area and all of Baja California. Residency

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Speaker 1: will be based on credit card billing address. So I

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Speaker 1: ask you this, Ken, what if you're a San Diego

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Speaker 1: Padres fan and you live in La County and your

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Speaker 1: billing address goes to an LA County address and you

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Speaker 1: can't buy tickets to see your San Diego Padres because

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Speaker 1: the Padres are too afraid to have Petco Park filled

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Speaker 1: with Dodgers fans. This is not the first time that

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Speaker 1: they did this. Is that to me is just ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Are you scared of your stadium being taken over by

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Speaker 1: Dodgers fans? So there's a lot of Padres fans in

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Speaker 1: La County, a lot.

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Speaker 3: Of Here is what that fan in La should do.

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Speaker 3: Call a friend in San Diego and go about it

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Speaker 3: that way. And this goes back for me, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: thirty or forty years Bruce Springsteen concert in North Carolina.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to go to that concert for whatever reason,

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Speaker 3: and I knew nobody in North Carolina. I found a

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Speaker 3: woman who was in college with me. I didn't even

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Speaker 3: know her. I said, listen, I need your address. I

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Speaker 3: need to pick up these tickets for me. And we

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Speaker 3: got it done. Get it done, get creative. And if

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Speaker 3: you're a Dodger fan, get inside that stadium too.

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, that's just that's just stupid. Are

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Speaker 1: you nervous, San Diego?

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Speaker 3: Are you nervous?

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Speaker 1: All right? Anyway, I get it.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, there are ways to get

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Speaker 3: around this. No, of course, we are creative with tickets.

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Speaker 3: They will get creative.

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Speaker 1: Here, absolutely, and not for nothing. If I'm a San

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Speaker 1: Diego fan, I'm like, all right, I'm gonna buy these

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Speaker 1: up and then sell them to Dodger fans make some

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Speaker 1: money on the open market. But you know, that's just

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Speaker 1: the entrepreneurial spirit for me. All right, super chat next,

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Speaker 1: let's bring that up, guys, if you don't mind, all right,

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Speaker 1: here we go. Thank you Daniel Rothenberg for being a

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Speaker 1: part of us today. We appreciate you. Do you like

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Speaker 1: the expanded playoff system? Ken only one series is going

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Speaker 1: to three games. You were talking about this earlier. Do

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Speaker 1: not know if that is good or bad, just.

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Speaker 3: Fact, Daniel. I'm going to reserve judgment, and I'll tell

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Speaker 3: you why. I want to see how the Division Series

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Speaker 3: plays out, because we've seen a lot of upsets in

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Speaker 3: the Division Series of the teams that got buys in

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Speaker 3: recent seasons, and that, to me is not healthy for

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Speaker 3: the sport, that diminishes the one sixty two. And if

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Speaker 3: again we see this kind of pattern in the Division

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Speaker 3: Series this year, then I would think it's time to

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Speaker 3: take a look at whether this is working as intended,

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Speaker 3: or whether it's time to penalize the wild card team

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Speaker 1: Even more, it's funny too because this has nothing to

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Speaker 1: do with the expanded series as far as the amount

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Speaker 1: of years, if you win the division and there's always

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Speaker 1: that do we want the layoff or do we want

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Speaker 1: to keep playing? You know, Atlanta had said, oh, we

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Speaker 1: That is going to be such a good series. As

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