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I hope to see you there, lady. 42 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 6: Today, we have a very special guest on the show 43 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 6: that we're super excited to introduce to you. Shari Wilson 44 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 6: is an entrepreneur, healthy hair specialist, and motivational speaker whose 45 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 6: goal is to empower you to be the best you. 46 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 6: For the past decade, Shari has been an avid community 47 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 6: activist and a voice to be reckoned with in the 48 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:52,119 Speaker 6: Sacramento area and beyond. Shari founded Dreamgirls Fine Hair Imports 49 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 6: and Salon with her sister Tanya Thompson in two thousand 50 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 6: and six, first opening a Los Angeles location and opening 51 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 6: an LA growth locations soon after in two thousand and eight. 52 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 6: Wilson has continued her entrepreneur ventures with establishments such as 53 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 6: Mixed Cosmetology Institute, her Closet boutique, Stars Struck Apparel, and 54 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 6: now Level Up with Shari Wilson, her TV show all 55 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 6: about hair, family, marriage, and much more. Shari, welcome to 56 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 6: her space. 57 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 7: Thank you for having me. 58 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 8: I'm excited to be on your show. 59 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 3: Yay. 60 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 6: So Don's gonna take it away with our quote of 61 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 6: the day and then we're going to dive into a 62 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 6: juicy conversation with Shari Wilson. 63 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: So our quote of the day and Shari, maybe this 64 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: will sound familiar to you. Once you master your subconscious mind, 65 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: anything is possible. 66 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 7: So Shari, that's your quote. 67 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: When you hear that, tell us a little bit about 68 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: what inspired that particular quote. 69 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 3: You know, I believe that our mind can be a prison, 70 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 3: and it's something that we until we master it, until 71 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 3: we take control over it. 72 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 8: It's something that we're in prison. We're in prison. 73 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 3: We're locked in there, and you have to know how 74 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 3: to navigate your mind to get the things that you 75 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: need out of life and just in general. So when 76 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: I say you need to master your subconscious mind, you 77 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 3: got to be able to control it. You got to 78 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 3: be able to block the things that don't need to 79 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 3: be in there out. 80 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 8: You need to put the things that needs to be 81 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 8: in there in. And at the end of the day, 82 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 8: you have full control if you have the control. And 83 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 8: a lot of us we keep our guards down when 84 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 8: it come down to our subconscious mind, so we allow 85 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 8: so many things in unconsciously, and then that is how 86 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 8: we end up having the issues that we have in life. 87 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 8: You know, the patterns that we keep having over and 88 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 8: over and over again. We're trying to figure out why 89 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 8: does this keep happening to me? It's because we left 90 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 8: our We left our guards. Now when it came down 91 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 8: to our mind. 92 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 6: All snuff shar ain't over here preaching. I think that's 93 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 6: that might be why the internet connection isn't good. The 94 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 6: internet's like I know the something saying, like I know 95 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 6: this message is gonna be so good. You know how 96 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 6: it is when you have something powerful about to happen 97 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 6: that was so powerful, Shari, if you can maybe just 98 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 6: talk a bit about your entrepreneurial story and what shifts 99 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 6: you had to take in your mind in order to 100 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 6: get where you are, because I know, Shari that people 101 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 6: see you online they're like, oh my gosh, she's beautiful. 102 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 6: She has the husband, she has the kids, she has 103 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 6: the house, she has all the things, she has the businesses. 104 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,119 Speaker 6: How were you able to go from where you're from 105 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 6: and get to that place? 106 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 7: Mentally? 107 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 6: We've talked about it's not just about the physical things, right, 108 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 6: you have like an internal joy that you have. So 109 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 6: can you just give an overview of your story and 110 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 6: your journey and how you were able to do that? 111 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 7: You know, I'm. 112 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 3: Originally from south central LA. I was raised between Crenshaw 113 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 3: and Open Hill off of Slosson, And in my community, 114 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 3: so many people count little girls like me out. You know, 115 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 3: I grew up with Nipsey grew up at I mean 116 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 3: in the same area. My brother ran with him. And 117 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 3: when I was growing up, a lot of girls they 118 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 3: was out there. They was having kids very early. I 119 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 3: had family members. I was out there having kids at sixteen, 120 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 3: fifteen years old. And so I remember my grandmother telling 121 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 3: me one time, I was going to be just like 122 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: my cousin, barefoot and pregnant, and my goal was to 123 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 3: prove her wrong. You know, at a certain point in 124 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 3: my life, when I was around thirteen, fourteen fifteen, about sixteen, 125 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 3: you know, I did go down the path of trying 126 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 3: to gang bang and be in the street and try 127 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 3: to represent what my brother, my older brothers was representing. 128 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 3: But my s you know, she did a complete makeover 129 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 3: on me. You know, she did a complete makeover. And 130 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 3: when she did that complete makeover, that's the first time 131 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 3: I ever saw myself as being pretty. I was a 132 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 3: tomboy prior to that. And right when I saw myself 133 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 3: as being pretty, here's my grandmother telling me that I 134 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 3: was fast. You know, I was going to be just 135 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:10,239 Speaker 3: like my cousin fareyfoot and pregnant. And so I always 136 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 3: had that in the back of my mind, even though 137 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 3: that's what gassed me. That's what pushed me to try 138 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: to be proof or wrong, which I stayed in a 139 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 3: marriage for ten years, an unhealthy marriage, because I wanted 140 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: to prove her wrong, right, because I only want to 141 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 3: have kids by one man. I wanted to only be 142 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 3: married to one man because of what she already put 143 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: in my mind. So even though those things that she 144 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 3: said stuck to me, that gassed me to push me 145 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 3: to where I am today, But at a certain point 146 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 3: I had to release it because what then gassed me 147 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 3: was also a wound, and I was working out of 148 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 3: my wound, and by me working out on my wound, 149 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 3: I was hurting other people because I was hurt. Does 150 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: that make sense? So we can go back to Madame C. J. 151 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:55,679 Speaker 8: Walker? 152 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 3: If you guys have good I'm not sure if you 153 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 3: guys saw that movie Sol made. 154 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 8: Did you guys see that series? 155 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: Yes, so it's on my watch list. I haven't had 156 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: a chance to check it out yet, but I've heard 157 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: really good things about it. 158 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know what the movie. 159 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 3: You can take so many different things from that movie, right, 160 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 3: And what gassed her up was her being that lady 161 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 3: in that kitchen. I got beat by that man who 162 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 3: got hit by that man, and she was bleeding right, 163 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: and she was bald headed, and she never saw that 164 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 3: she was worthy. She didn't think she was beautiful. That 165 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 3: is what probably helped gas her to do the things 166 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 3: that she did. But her wounds, which is the same 167 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 3: thing that gassed her right, her marriage failed, she wasn't 168 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 3: able to enjoy the process of her becoming a millionaire. 169 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: And then once she finally became a millionaire and became 170 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 3: having the things that she wanted desire out of life, 171 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 3: she passed away. And I think, in so many different ways, 172 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 3: a lot of successful women happening and a lot of 173 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 3: us we can't really enjoy it because we're so worried 174 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 3: about the next moment, the next moment, the next moment, 175 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 3: because we're still trying to prove somebody wrong, you know, 176 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 3: we're trying to prove to somebody that I am this, 177 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 3: I am that. And if you notice in the movie, 178 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 3: she kept on going back to that person. She was 179 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 3: with no hair beat in that room, you know. And 180 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to tell all the whole movie, but 181 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 3: my point is the same thing that's pushed us and 182 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 3: gas us is a wound that if we don't get 183 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 3: rid of it at a certain point after it gased 184 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 3: us to get to where we need to go, it 185 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 3: can cripple us and it could cause us to lose 186 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 3: everything that we're actually trying to achieve. We can lose 187 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 3: it or we'll die before we're even able to enjoy it. 188 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: So the therapist in me wants to know, how did 189 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: you heal your wound? 190 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:50,119 Speaker 8: Counseling? 191 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: Okay, So my wound was what gassed me up, and 192 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 3: what pushed me was the things that my grandmother said. 193 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 3: And there was other people in my family used to 194 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 3: call my sister you know money bank or this or that, 195 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 3: and you know I will always feel like, well call 196 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 3: me that, call me that. You know. What I had 197 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 3: to realize that was I was working out of my 198 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 3: wounds because now I started hurting other people with my words, right, 199 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 3: And so it was my husband, my current husband, because 200 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 3: I got divorced, I got remarried, and my current husband. 201 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 8: Said to me, he said, who hurts you? And I'm 202 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 8: looking like, what you mean? Who hurt me? 203 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 3: You know, the saying thing, listen, I don't need you 204 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 3: you here because I want you, you know, And that 205 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 3: was hurtful, Like you don't say that to somebody, especially 206 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 3: as your husband, you know. And I understood what I meant, 207 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 3: but the way it came across, the way it cut them, 208 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 3: it was harsh. 209 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 8: And I would say that to anybody like I just 210 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 8: was a beast. 211 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: I was always about getting what I want, you know, 212 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 3: no matter what I had to do, I just get 213 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 3: what I want. If I hurt you with my words, 214 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 3: if I tell you that you ain't working it out 215 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 3: the way, I'll go get somebody else. I had to 216 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 3: learn a different way. I was speaking to people and 217 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 3: treating people for my wounds. So I had to go 218 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 3: back and tell that little girl, okay, little Shari, the 219 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 3: one at sixteen, seventeen thirteen, fourteen year old. 220 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 8: Girl, that it's okay. I got you. 221 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 3: Now, what happened to you wasn't okay. But guess what 222 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: we're gonna forgive. We're gonna let it go and we 223 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 3: need to move forward. And when I did that, I 224 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 3: went to a counselor. It was a Christian counselor. And 225 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 3: she's the one who actually helped me through the process. 226 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 3: You know, she's the one who told me to embrace 227 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 3: the little girl. Now let her know that it's okay 228 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 3: and we don't have to hurt other people because of 229 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 3: what you know people did to me. And so if 230 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 3: your I guess your question was how did I get 231 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 3: past that? It was really digging deep, digging deep, deep deep, 232 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 3: and the counselor helping me embrace the little girl, feel 233 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: the emotions again and then let her know that the 234 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 3: woman I am today will never allow that to happen 235 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: to us again. 236 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 8: But at the same time, we won't do that to 237 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 8: no one else. And that's what clicked for me. 238 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 6: Oh my goodness, sar okayn't you don't preach the whole sermon? 239 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 6: And we're like, what a couple of minutes. And so 240 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 6: my next question for you, shar You talked about where 241 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 6: you came from, and I know the shari today, so 242 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 6: learning about that, I'm just like, oh my gosh, so inspiring. 243 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 7: But talk about what you do today? 244 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 6: And I mean, you have this incredible healthy haircare system 245 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 6: and businesses and all of that. Can you talk about 246 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 6: how you were able to get to that place and 247 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 6: actually what you do for folks that are not familiar 248 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:31,599 Speaker 6: with your work. 249 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 3: Well, I specialized in healthy hair and you know, just 250 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 3: like a lot of black girls, we never believe that 251 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 3: our hair can get so long, right, we think that 252 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 3: our hair can either get to our shoulders or maybe 253 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 3: above our brosstraps and that set, and some of us 254 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 3: don't even know that our hair can get longer than that, 255 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 3: or even get that long. So what me and my 256 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 3: sister did was I was wearing protective styles for a 257 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 3: very long time, and at first I was going to 258 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 3: somebody and my hair was just coming out, coming out, 259 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 3: coming out, and then we kind of ticke it over 260 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 3: and we started just doing each other waves, you know. 261 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 3: And at the same time I was doing my clients. 262 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 3: We wasn't really doing weeds on other people, but we 263 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 3: were just doing our own. And then we started doing 264 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 3: our clients hair, doing waves, and we was put as 265 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 3: much love that we put in our hair into our clients. 266 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 3: And then we noticed that our hair was growing, but 267 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 3: it wasn't see through anymore. Our hair was growing and 268 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 3: it was full at the ends our hair was growing, 269 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 3: we still had edges. And we ended up doing a 270 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: few more clients, and then one of my sister clients 271 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 3: actually went on and was bragging about it, and she 272 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 3: actually called it the Healthy Hair Program. So that's how 273 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 3: the Healthy Hair Program came about, and we've been doing it. 274 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 8: Now for about ah I want to say about. 275 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 3: Eight years, about eight years now, and our clients we 276 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 3: deal with the inside out. 277 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 8: We try to figure out what's going on internally. 278 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 3: If you're low iron viting in d college, we try 279 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 3: to fix all that. We put your hair into our 280 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 3: rest stage, which means you're not manipulating it, you're not 281 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 3: tugging on it, you're not brushing on it, you're just 282 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 3: letting your hair be. And when we take it out, 283 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 3: we made sure that we did tangle it very very 284 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 3: very well to where you're not losing a lot of 285 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 3: hair and pretty much that's the healthy hair program. Twenty 286 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 3: four months later, twelve months later, your hair is much longer, 287 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 3: as healthier, as fuller. You know, Terry, you're from your results. 288 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 6: Yes, And just to put it out there, Shari has 289 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 6: grown my hair y'all down to mine like the middle 290 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 6: of my back, right, Sharry, It's like the middle of 291 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 6: my back, and my hair has never been that long 292 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 6: in my entire life. Okay, so this hair care program 293 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 6: is not it's the real deal, Okay, Like it's so 294 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 6: incredible and you have helped so many women across the globe, Sharlie. 295 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 6: I'm sure you have clients that are outside of the 296 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 6: States as well that come to visit you. 297 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 7: So, yeah, where did that myth come from? Because I 298 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 7: feel like. 299 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 6: Growing up and you know, just in black girl community, 300 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 6: it was like a privilege, and it was you envied 301 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 6: women that had long hair. 302 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 7: Not everybody, but some of them might be. 303 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 6: Like, oh she thinks she aw that or hair as 304 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 6: long and hear people feel like, oh, my hair can't 305 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 6: get that long. 306 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 7: Where do you think that comes from? 307 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, And I was that little girl. 308 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 3: I didn't I never thought my hair can be this long, never, 309 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 3: you know, and just a little bit of real understanding 310 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 3: how hair work TLC. 311 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 8: You know, our hair can get long. 312 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 3: But I think it just came from, you know, just 313 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 3: how African matter, how. 314 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 8: We was raised. 315 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 3: You know, like, girl, your hair ain't gonna gett no long, 316 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 3: Come on, come over here, and how we used to 317 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 3: treat it right, Your mama have you sip between they 318 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 3: let her legs and she'd go with the breast and 319 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 3: she'd just be yanking it. 320 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 8: And you're like, how mommyin heard it her great. 321 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 3: Hurting me quiet tugging through your hair not knowing she's 322 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 3: just ripping all your hair out. 323 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 5: You know. 324 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 3: So some of that could have just been how we 325 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 3: was raised and how they was taught how to deal 326 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 3: with the hair and how to calmb the hair. But 327 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 3: we definitely have to I always tell people, love on 328 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 3: your hair. When people call my hair, like, love on 329 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 3: my hair, Love on my hair. You know, don't be 330 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 3: pulling it, don't be trying to snatch it. But we 331 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 3: have to learn that, and it's a lot of hairstylists 332 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 3: to this day, they still don't get it. They still 333 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 3: don't get that kind of like you just got to 334 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 3: be gentle, you got to be patient. Just love on 335 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 3: the hair. You know, if you love anything you love 336 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 3: on will grow. That's just a rule of thumb. Anything 337 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 3: you love on will grow. 338 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 7: That's a trademark quote. Anything you love on will grow. 339 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: And I think that speaks to what you've been like 340 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: the overall theme of what you've been saying about, like 341 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: dealing with the subconscious mind and healing your wounds, because 342 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: I think a lot of us have to work through 343 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: those subconscious thoughts of our hair can't grow that well, 344 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: you know, our hair can never. 345 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 7: Be that long. 346 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: And when we have those subconscious beliefs or those core 347 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: beliefs sitting in us, then our behavior tends to match that. 348 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: And so I think that a lot of us our 349 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: behavior matches that mentality of my hair can't grow that long, 350 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: so we engage in unhealthy ways of taking care of 351 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: our hair exactly exactly. 352 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 7: That's it. 353 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: That's it, And so what would you what are some 354 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: of your favorite healthy haircare tips. 355 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 3: Besides you know, leaving your hair alone every now and then, 356 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 3: even if you have any even if you don't have 357 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 3: a weave, if you run your hair natural, sometimes it's 358 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 3: just good to plat your hair out, you know, and 359 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 3: you can do it and still look cute. The person 360 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 3: who I love on TIV that's always doing different hairstyles 361 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 3: and wearing different type of things for her hair, kind 362 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 3: of showing natural girls that you don't have to do 363 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 3: much to look cute. 364 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 8: Is it's her name Terry Ross. Terry Ellis Ross. Yes, Oh, Tracy, Tracy, Tracy. 365 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 3: Yes, she's a prime example because sometimes I see her 366 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 3: wear some braids just going straight back, you know, and 367 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 3: she have her lipstick go on and her big hoops, 368 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 3: so and she still looks good. Some of the things 369 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 3: that we need to learn is that we don't need 370 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 3: to always be flat iron our hair. We don't need 371 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 3: to always be brushing and tugging our hair. Sometimes you 372 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: just need to let your hair be. 373 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 7: Just let it be. 374 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 3: If that means, you know, flatten your hair up and 375 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 3: some cute little plaits and wearing it in an upduce style, 376 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 3: do that. Or if that's putting your hair and a 377 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 3: few braids going. 378 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 8: Back, do that. We're to protect the style. Do that. 379 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 3: Wearing a nice little bun, not combing it every day, 380 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 3: but doing it to a point where sometimes I wear 381 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 3: buns and I won't comb it through for a whole week, 382 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 3: and that same bun, I will, you know, brush my edges, 383 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 3: brush my side, take it, finger it through a little bit, 384 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 3: and put it right back in the bum. But I 385 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 3: won't literally take a comb and tug through it. So 386 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 3: it's so many different things that we can do to 387 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 3: put our hair at rest. And by doing that, our 388 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 3: hair would just flourish. It would just start growing, growing 389 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 3: and becoming what we want it to be. 390 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 6: That's amazing, it's so helpful. Shar and I think about 391 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 6: the women that listen to our podcasts. We have women 392 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 6: from all over the globes that listen, And the question 393 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 6: I want to ask for all of us is like, 394 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 6: as black girls, what does our hair need to be healthy? 395 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 6: In addition to what you've shared, Like are there certain 396 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 6: supplements or you know, do we need to moisturize? And 397 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 6: like are there any I know you have some products 398 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 6: you might want to share with us too, but like 399 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 6: what does our hair? 400 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 7: What does hair need to just be healthy and grow? 401 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 8: Okay, so our hair need a balance of too. It 402 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 8: needs two things. 403 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 3: It needs protein and it needs moisture, and it needs 404 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 3: to be balanced. Okay, So what does that mean? You 405 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 3: can't have too much protein and not enough moisture in 406 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 3: your hair be Okay, you can't have too much moisture 407 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 3: and too much protein. You got to figure out exactly 408 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 3: what's going on with your hair so you could balance it. 409 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,959 Speaker 3: And everybody texture is different. You know, my hair texture 410 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 3: can be different from your hair texture. But you got 411 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 3: to figure out what's your balance, and then you need 412 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 3: to make sure that you're iron, your vitamin D, you're collagen. 413 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 8: All those things plays apart. And remember whenever you're. 414 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 3: Going through anything internally, it always shows up in your hair. 415 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 3: So I always tell people. If you feel like your 416 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 3: hair is going through something, let's go get a physical, 417 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 3: let's go get some blood work done, Let's go find 418 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 3: out what's going on internally. Could that can tell us 419 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 3: the story about me? Your hair can tell you a 420 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 3: story about everything else. So, for instance, I had a 421 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 3: lady I kept doing her hair, and her hair kept 422 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 3: falling out in the stink, kept falling out, Like, something's 423 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 3: going on with your hair. 424 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 8: She was like, well, my doctor said everything is fine. 425 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 8: I said, listen, something's going on. It was like a 426 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 8: month or two later, it was still happening. I said, listen, 427 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 8: I think you're long on iron. I said, go to 428 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 8: the doctor and get your iron pull. 429 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 3: Well, she went to the doctor doctor and she said, 430 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 3: can you guys, you know, check my iron. 431 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 8: The doctor said no, no, no, no, you're fine. You're fine. 432 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 8: So she came back and told me what the doctor said. 433 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 3: I said, okay, tell your doctor that you're weak, you're tired, 434 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,719 Speaker 3: and you're driving at night and you can't keep your 435 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 3: eyes open. She went back told the doctor. The doctor said, okay, 436 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 3: I'll do it for you. She went on that Thursday. 437 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 3: That Friday, they called it from the er saying get 438 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 3: in here immediately, we. 439 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 8: Need to do a blood transfusion. 440 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 3: That's how low she was on her iron what wow, Yeah, 441 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 3: and I. 442 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: Need there's multiple things there, like you are speaking to her, 443 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: like you're telling her, you're observing things in her. So 444 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: there's that pieceage, you know as her hairstyle is like 445 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: you are able to tend to things and observe things, 446 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: but yet her medical doctor was ignoring her. That's really 447 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: deep to me. 448 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 7: Yeah. 449 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I actually have her testimony somewhere on my 450 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 3: page when she's speaking about it. But yeah, it happens 451 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 3: all the time. So I just want people to know. 452 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 3: All the ladies says listening that your hair is more 453 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 3: than just your hair. Your hair tells a story. And 454 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 3: so we have to make sure that we're paying attention 455 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 3: to our body, okay, because the first thing to go 456 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 3: is your skin, right, you're skinny, your nails. You don't 457 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 3: need your skin, You don't need your nails, You don't 458 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 3: need your hair to live at all. 459 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 8: You just don't need that to live. 460 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 3: And so when your body start doing things internally, okay, 461 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 3: the first thing it's going to start pulling is from 462 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 3: the biggest organ, which is your skin and you're scanning 463 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 3: your nails. 464 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 8: It's made out the same thing. 465 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 3: So always kind of just pay attention, pay attention to 466 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 3: what's going on. 467 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,479 Speaker 1: Wow, I'm sitting there and I'm just thinking about like 468 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: all those stories that I've heard of women where their 469 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,479 Speaker 1: hair was falling out because they were stressed. And you know, 470 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: and as you're saying, it makes me think about like 471 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: work in the mental health field of like you know, 472 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: when we talk to people about what are some of 473 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: the signs and symptoms of stress or anxiety or depression, 474 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: that I forget about your hair and how your hair 475 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: and like you said, and your skin is a reflection 476 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: of your internal health. 477 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 7: It is. It is. 478 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 3: And the way the way God made everything work was 479 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 3: you know, you need your heart, right, you need your liver, 480 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 3: you need all this, You need the bigger that you 481 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 3: need the other organs. 482 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 8: Not the bigger organs, but you need other organs as 483 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 8: death or life. 484 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 3: So God would start pulling from the things you don't 485 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 3: need to live, but eventually once he need them, take 486 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 3: everything out of your hair and your skin, then it's 487 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 3: going to that next organ, you know. 488 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 8: And that's how a lot of people end up being sick. 489 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 3: It's because they don't pay attention to their body until 490 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 3: it's too late, and when it's too late. Now you're 491 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 3: talking about liver, Now you're talking about kidneys, Now you've 492 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 3: talked about your heart. You know, we have to pay attention, 493 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 3: especially with African American women. 494 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 8: When we go to the doctor, we're overlooked. 495 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 7: You know. 496 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 3: They said, we tell them something is wrong, and they 497 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 3: were like, oh no, it's everything's fine, or you don't 498 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 3: need that, or you don't need that. So we really 499 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 3: got to advocate for ourselves and speak up and tell 500 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 3: them what we want done and what we want tested. 501 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 7: That is so true. 502 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 6: We hear that time and time again of black women 503 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 6: going into the doctors and not being advocated, for not 504 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 6: being given the proper doses of medicine right because they 505 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 6: believe we might be stronger all that stuff. One thing 506 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 6: you did say, shar You talked about hair types, and 507 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 6: I know one stylist I worked with years ago, she 508 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 6: was like, I don't buy into the four A and 509 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 6: four B and four C. 510 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 7: Is that a really? Is that a really a real thing. 511 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 6: I know we have different hair types, but is that 512 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 6: a legitimate sort of system that you about by as 513 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 6: far as the hair types. 514 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 8: You know what, I don't do that. That's something that's new. 515 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 3: Now, I won't say it's not legit because somebody created 516 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 3: it and then she took each different type of textures 517 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 3: and she placed ab to this type of texture. So 518 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 3: I won't say it's not real. Somebody did create it. 519 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 3: Do I go buy that? No, I go buy texture. 520 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,719 Speaker 3: Text Hair is like a fabric, okay, And you got 521 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 3: different type of fabrics, and when you have those different 522 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 3: type of fabrics, you need different type of things to 523 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 3: go with those different different type of fabrics. Our hair 524 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 3: is the same way, so the same things, the same 525 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 3: shampool conditioner I may use on my hair may be 526 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 3: something different than I use on your hair. We just 527 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 3: got to know the difference, like what do I use 528 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 3: on O? And also we need to figure out this too. 529 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 8: Do you know that our hair can change? 530 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 3: You know, our hair change, and so when our hairs 531 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 3: start changing, what I used before I may not use 532 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 3: next year, you know, because now something has happened. Well, 533 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 3: my hair is changed. It's not as tight anymore. It's 534 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 3: more pores. You know, it's not holding moisture like it 535 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 3: used to hold. So we have to know that our 536 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 3: hair textures can change, but we look at hair as 537 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 3: a fabric instead of a you know, she got a 538 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 3: straighter texture, or she got a kinkier texture. 539 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 8: Just look at it as a fabric. Okay, I think 540 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 8: we'll be if that makes sense. 541 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 6: That makes sense, Sary and I do have a friend 542 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 6: that was pregnant and she noticed that after her pregnancy 543 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 6: or hair changed, and so I noticed that it does 544 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 6: change during different phases. 545 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 7: In life, right depending on what's happening within our body. 546 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 7: So that's really important to know. 547 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, my hair's changed right now, like. 548 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 3: Like seven months ago, my hair was like so different 549 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 3: right now because I went on a diet and I 550 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 3: was fast than a lot and I lost like thirty 551 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 3: five forty five pounds. My hair felt like air. 552 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 7: You know. 553 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 8: So it's just and people like, well, how can your 554 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 8: hair feel like air? 555 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 3: How can you feel like air? It's just light, it's 556 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 3: very lightweight. It's like airy. It doesn't have any density. 557 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 3: It's just it's not I'm not feeling it right now. 558 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 3: So it's different things that I'm doing, you know, to 559 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 3: try to get it back. So am I using the 560 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 3: same products that I was using seven months ago? 561 00:26:59,000 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 7: Nope? 562 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 3: Actually I'm using you know some Hannah a lot in 563 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 3: my hair that you get from the Indian store because 564 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 3: I need my the hair strands to be you know, 565 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 3: filled up. And then I'm using a lot of green 566 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 3: tea bags. So I'm putting poor and green. Like I'm 567 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 3: doing different things right now because I know my hair 568 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 3: is not like it was because of my diet. 569 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 8: So yeah, that's the whole different conversation. 570 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: And so considering as you talk about like diets being different, 571 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: I know, just talking with some of my friends that like, 572 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: now that we've all we're all sheltering in place, our 573 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: diets might be a little bit different and we don't 574 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: have access to our hairstylists anymore. And so what would 575 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,479 Speaker 1: you recommend for us to do to take care of 576 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: our hair while we're all sheltering in place at home 577 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: and we don't have access to our normal routines. 578 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 3: I go back to say, the less you do, the better. 579 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 3: Try to wash your hair. Some people like to wash 580 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 3: your hair once a week. I'm not a wash my 581 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 3: you know, wash your hair once a week type of person. 582 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 3: I wash my hair at least maybe every two to 583 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 3: three weeks. 584 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 8: But wash your hair. 585 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 3: A lot of people get in trouble when it's time 586 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 3: to blow dry and di tangle. So I always recommend 587 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 3: always wash your hair, you condition your hair. Part your 588 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 3: hair in fours until you figure out what you're gonna do. 589 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 3: And what I mean by four, it's like you should 590 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 3: have four plats in your head. If you're gonna blow 591 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 3: dry it, then you should blow dry it bisection and 592 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 3: then bring it back up. But if you're going to 593 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 3: wear a natural hairstyle, leave it into those plats until 594 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 3: it's time, you know, until it dries. 595 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 8: Always lock it in with oil. 596 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 3: So you have shampoo, you have conditioner, you have leave 597 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 3: in and then you lock it with a good oil. 598 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 8: And that's how you keep that moisture in there. 599 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 3: And just I mean, you're not going anywhere, so where 600 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 3: you're hearing some plats, chill. 601 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 8: At home, throw on a wig if you need to, 602 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 8: and just let it be. This is a perfect turn. 603 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 8: Really let your hair just be. 604 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, that sounds good, that's hopeful. Shari. 605 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 6: I will say I had an appointment with Shari right 606 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 6: before this happens, and I definitely felt like a spoiled 607 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 6: first world person. I was like, wait, I want to 608 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 6: meet with Shari before before the coronavirus. 609 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 8: You know, but I. 610 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 6: Right after this happens, I will be seeing you in 611 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 6: the shop, all right, Sharry. 612 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 7: So we want to switch up the energy in our interview. 613 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 6: And because we recognize, appreciate, and celebrate the multifaceted woman, 614 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 6: and we believe that it's okay be classy and ratchet 615 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 6: you can still be elegant and dance to strip club music, 616 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 6: we want to invite you to the oh you clatch 617 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 6: it segment? 618 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 7: So, Shari, do you take on the challenge? Yeah? All right. 619 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 6: So our first question for you, Shari is what's the 620 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 6: most spontaneous thing you've ever done. 621 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 8: You know, on a vacation before me my husband. 622 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 3: I I think this is Yeah, I went skinny dipping 623 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 3: an option. 624 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 8: Yes, yes, okay, get it. 625 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 7: That's a good one. 626 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 6: Okay, that's a really really good one. 627 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: Yes, okay. So what is your biggest pet peeve? 628 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 3: You know what people going around like not just being straightforward, 629 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 3: going all the way around the situation without saying what 630 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 3: the situation is. And I cannot stand liars those two things. 631 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 6: So people to beat around the bush and then you're 632 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 6: looking at them like I know you lying right now, 633 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 6: and they just keet me going and you're. 634 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 7: Just like, see right through you right now. 635 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 8: Just tell me, tell me, just tell me, just tell. 636 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 7: Me, keep it a hunted, just tell me. All right. Sorry, 637 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 7: the next question for you, this is a good one, 638 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 7: so good ready? Sorry? Are you gonna twirk? Or two steps? 639 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 9: You know what? 640 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 8: I think I would work. 641 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 7: A all right? 642 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: So, since since you're tworking, what's your favorite drink? Ooh? 643 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 3: I love a martini Cosmopolitan. But my favorite drink I 644 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 3: could drink all day every day is tequila and pineapple juice. 645 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,239 Speaker 3: That's just I don't know the name of that, but 646 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 3: that's whatever that is. 647 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 7: That sounds so good right now? 648 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: That works? 649 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 6: I yuess Now, Shari, is there a question that you 650 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 6: wanted us to ask or that you want people to 651 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 6: ask you more that we did not ask today? 652 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 7: No? 653 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 8: I think we hit it. 654 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 7: It was great, great interview. 655 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 6: Well, thank you so much for your time, shar We 656 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 6: appreciate you and what we would love to share with 657 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 6: our listeners. Where can they find you online and where 658 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 6: can they order your products and see your amazing testimonials. 659 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 3: You can go to I am Shari Wilson on ig 660 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 3: I am Shari will and then my dream Girls page 661 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 3: is Dreaming Girls hair on ig and then my website 662 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 3: is Shari Wilson dot com, which leads you to my 663 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 3: YouTube channel. 664 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 9: Hey lady, it is doctor Dom here from the Herspace Podcast. 665 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 9: Do you have a burning question you're dying to get 666 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 9: feedback on? Do you want an unbiased perspective on a 667 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 9: situation you're facing? 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