WEBVTT - Chiefs THROTTLE Broncos, Mahomes RETURNS + NFL Week 1 REACTION | Nick Wright

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome in What's Right with Nick Wright, episode 502. This

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<v Speaker 1>episode of What's Right with Nick Wright is presented to

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<v Speaker 1>you by Boost Mobile. Everything is right in the world again.

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<v Speaker 1>And listen, it doesn't mean the Chiefs are going to

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<v Speaker 1>win the Super Bowl. I mean, they probably will. But

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, America. Last year felt weird. The Chiefs aren't good.

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<v Speaker 1>The Ravens aren't good. The Bills are good, kind of,

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<v Speaker 1>but can't win their division. The AFC Championship game is

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<v Speaker 1>a 10-7 slog in the snow in Denver between Jared

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<v Speaker 1>Stidham and Drake May. You missed us. You missed us.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all better when Kansas City is still the standard.

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<v Speaker 1>And even with a quarterback nine months to the day

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<v Speaker 1>of knee reconstruction, we're still the damn standard. The only

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<v Speaker 1>reason the Chiefs didn't have the, oh my God, the Jags,

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<v Speaker 1>they did look great against the Browns. Oh, the Bears

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<v Speaker 1>scored 59. The only reason the Chiefs didn't have the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest blowout of the weekend is because we took knees

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<v Speaker 1>instead of kicking that field goal. 24 would have been

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<v Speaker 1>the high watermark. We took mercy on the Denver Broncos.

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<v Speaker 1>The Chiefs had nine years atop the AFC West. Denver

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<v Speaker 1>had nine months. And now it's back how it's supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be. Straight to voicemail brought to you by Boost Mobile.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care about any of these things. Hi, Demondze.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up? Good to see you. Dumb Clippers stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care about. Bad U.S. Open that I went

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<v Speaker 1>to the semifinal of, but got stuck in traffic for

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<v Speaker 1>two hours because of a wreck, and then the Uber

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<v Speaker 1>driver went the wrong way, and I ended up having

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<v Speaker 1>to get out and run. And I had literally front

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<v Speaker 1>row center court for the U.S. Open, and I got

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<v Speaker 1>there mid-third set. Not great. But who cares? Great to

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<v Speaker 1>see you. If you're new to this program, Tuesdays in football,

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<v Speaker 1>we do hit on every game from the weekend. Every

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<v Speaker 1>single team will be mentioned. Every game will be discussed.

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<v Speaker 1>And we don't always lead with Monday night football. But

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<v Speaker 1>when it's the return of Patrick Mahomes and the announcement

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<v Speaker 1>of Kenneth Walker and the Chiefs with a running game,

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<v Speaker 1>who'd have thunk it? Multiple Super Bowl MVPs on one team.

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<v Speaker 1>That might be good. We are going to lead with

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<v Speaker 1>Monday Night Football. I'll try to keep this to less

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<v Speaker 1>than half the pod, but no promises. Demanze, take it away.

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<v Speaker 2>Nine months after tearing his ACL, Patrick Mahomes makes his return.

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<v Speaker 2>So there were some oopsies in there, but he came out, ran,

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<v Speaker 2>and got that touchdown. And the defense performed. Your rookies performed.

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<v Speaker 2>And Kenneth Walker. Random into the ground. The floor is yours.

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<v Speaker 2>You haven't been able to speak positively about the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 2>in a minute. I know you're excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Kenneth Walker is micro the big story. The young defense

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<v Speaker 1>is the secondary big story. But the biggest story is,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, Patrick Mahomes. in record time from an ACL,

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<v Speaker 1>no pun intended, with never a doubt in his mind

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<v Speaker 1>that he was going to be on that field for

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<v Speaker 1>week one of the season. He tore his ACL to

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<v Speaker 1>Monza in the 14th game of the year. I just

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<v Speaker 1>want people to understand Mahomes' injury history. 2019, he dislocated

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<v Speaker 1>his kneecap. He missed two games. They won the Super Bowl. 2022,

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<v Speaker 1>he suffered a high ankle sprain in the playoffs. The

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<v Speaker 1>exact injury that currently has A.J. Brown out on the

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<v Speaker 1>IR and out for six weeks. He missed one drive.

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<v Speaker 1>And they won the Super Bowl. And in 2025, he

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<v Speaker 1>tore his ACL. And he missed three games. And now

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<v Speaker 1>he is back. And to announce he is back. And

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<v Speaker 1>also to announce some of the Chiefs issues at wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver are still not fixed. On the opening drive of

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<v Speaker 1>the game. He ran it in for a touchdown. They

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<v Speaker 1>got a holding penalty. So he ran that son of

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<v Speaker 1>a bitch in again. It could have been no better.

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<v Speaker 1>for one of the defining athletes of the 21st century,

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<v Speaker 1>which he is, to show the world he's not worried

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<v Speaker 1>about that damn knee than against what is supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be an excellent defense with an undrafted rookie free agent

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<v Speaker 1>protecting his blind side. against one of the Super Bowl favorites,

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<v Speaker 1>the defending division champions, and a team that has more

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<v Speaker 1>hope going into this year than they've had since Peyton

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<v Speaker 1>Manning was their quarterback. That he reminds them, guys, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the AFC West. I'm in my prime. I'm already healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>And as has been the case every year of my

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<v Speaker 1>career save one, the division still goes through me. And

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<v Speaker 1>folks can argue all they want about Josh and Lamar

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<v Speaker 1>and Stafford and Joe and these other great quarterbacks. And

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<v Speaker 1>they are great quarterbacks. Or Caleb or Drake or Trevor,

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<v Speaker 1>who I believe are going to be and are turning

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<v Speaker 1>into great quarterbacks. Or Justin Herbert, who in an alternate

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<v Speaker 1>dimension is a great quarterback. But all those people arguing

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff, know that deep down at their core,

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<v Speaker 1>when the chips are down in the biggest spots, there's

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<v Speaker 1>only one choice on who you'd want running your team.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's 15 in Kansas City. And he reminded you

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<v Speaker 1>of that last night when even in a game where

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't have it, he starts the game to Monza

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<v Speaker 1>2 of 12. 2 of 12. And everything looks off

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<v Speaker 1>in the passing game. And then he finishes 13 of

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<v Speaker 1>15 with one miss and one miscommunication that I thought

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<v Speaker 1>the broadcast did a good job of explaining. Xavier Worthy

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<v Speaker 1>didn't run the right route, but fine. It's a pick.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes on Patrick's resume. A couple touchdown passes. That

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown throw.

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<v Speaker 3>And.

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<v Speaker 1>There has been a lot, a lot on Chiefs Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>of Chiefs fans kvetching and complaining about how this team

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<v Speaker 1>went about their offseason. And there has been a lot of,

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<v Speaker 1>and I haven't really, I alluded to this once on

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<v Speaker 1>the TV show, but I've never really discussed it. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of folks who this offseason... I think the best

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<v Speaker 1>way to put it is turned on me because they

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<v Speaker 1>thought that I was couching my true feelings about how

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<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs approached this offseason because of loyalty to either

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<v Speaker 1>Brett Veach or the organization or some nebulous....

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<v Speaker 3>Force.

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<v Speaker 1>When in reality, the reason that I supported the way

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<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs built this team this offseason is because I

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<v Speaker 1>fucking agreed with it. I believe if you have Patrick

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<v Speaker 1>Mahomes as your starting quarterback, as frustrating as it can

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<v Speaker 1>be to not throw a ton of resources into wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>What you've got to have is a defense that can

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<v Speaker 1>get off the field on third down. They threw all

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<v Speaker 1>their resources into that. With Patrick Mahomes coming off an injury,

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<v Speaker 1>what you've got to have is a running game that

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<v Speaker 1>has to be respected. They threw their free agent money

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<v Speaker 1>into that. And then see what Magic Patrick can make. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about the receivers in a bit. If that's

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<v Speaker 1>how they're going to look this year, that's not good enough.

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<v Speaker 1>They are going to have to address that during the season.

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<v Speaker 1>But folks talking about This is a reset. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a rebuild. No, it's not. This Chiefs team is going

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<v Speaker 1>to start the year 4-0. They're at home Sunday night

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<v Speaker 1>against the Colts. Then they have brutal road trips in

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<v Speaker 1>Miami and Las Vegas. And then an early bye week,

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<v Speaker 1>home for the Chargers, and then some tough games ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>But they instantly showed the world, you're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to respect our running game. Our defense, much like 2022,

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<v Speaker 1>is very young, but with Spags pulling the trigger, is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be at least create splash plays. And Patrick's

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<v Speaker 1>only going to get better. So.

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<v Speaker 2>You think he'll be at full power by the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the season? Do you think he'll ever be able

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<v Speaker 2>to get there?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think by the end of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no doubt. I would imagine Mahomes will be at 100%

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<v Speaker 1>post the bye. I think that they will slowly bleed him,

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<v Speaker 1>but get him rolling. I also think, right, and I

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<v Speaker 1>also think, Demanze, that part of, his shakiness early, a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit was rust, but the other piece was he was,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said it after the game last night, he

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<v Speaker 1>was mostly a one read quarterback because I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how much he trusted the protection. Yeah. Well, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was, I mean, kind of about getting hit, but

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<v Speaker 1>really the protection, like undrafted free agent at left tackle was,

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<v Speaker 1>first game back from injury, that Broncos pass rush, I

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<v Speaker 1>think he just wanted to get the ball out. He

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<v Speaker 1>clearly was not afraid to get hit because he was

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<v Speaker 1>running the ball. And Andy was not afraid to let

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<v Speaker 1>him get hit. They called a speed option with the

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<v Speaker 1>lead late in the game. Now, here's what I will

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<v Speaker 1>say about Mahomes running, Demonte, before we get to the

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<v Speaker 1>major runner, Kenneth Walker. He When the Chiefs have been

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<v Speaker 1>rolling historically, Mahomes using his legs was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest reasons he is such a playoff riser was because

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<v Speaker 1>it was something he so rarely did in the regular season.

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<v Speaker 1>He would use his legs to escape pressure, like to

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<v Speaker 1>then throw the ball, to roll out, but not as

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<v Speaker 1>a scrambler, not to run down the field. Last year,

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<v Speaker 1>from game one, he was using his legs to get yards.

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<v Speaker 1>And this year game one, he's using his legs to

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<v Speaker 1>get yards. I don't love that. I'm consistent on that. I,

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<v Speaker 1>the only quarterback in the league who is physically imposing

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<v Speaker 1>enough to just have you know, quarterback driven runs be

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<v Speaker 1>a huge part of their game regularly. And you don't

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<v Speaker 1>worry about injury is Josh Allen, but even Josh Allen

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<v Speaker 1>last year, evidently broke his foot or dealt with a

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<v Speaker 1>foot injury at the end of the season from the

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<v Speaker 1>residual wear and tear. So I don't love that piece

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<v Speaker 1>of it, but Patrick is a competitor, man. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to do any of this half speed. Which

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<v Speaker 1>is why him not having to and their ability to

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<v Speaker 1>lean on Kenneth Walker is so critical. So let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about him.

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<v Speaker 2>What does Kenneth Walker bring to the team that you

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<v Speaker 2>guys didn't have before? And do you think that this

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<v Speaker 2>is the new identity? And do you worry about putting

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<v Speaker 2>too many miles on him?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm not worried about putting too many miles on

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<v Speaker 1>Kenneth Walker. He got a big contract. That's the, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a running back. He wants to be the bell cow.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked the rookie backup running back, Emmitt Johnson, the

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<v Speaker 1>kid out in Nebraska. Both of those guys, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Emmitt Johnson is dramatically better as a backup running back

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<v Speaker 1>than any running back we've had on the roster the

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<v Speaker 1>last two years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the, the, here is the, the point that

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<v Speaker 1>I was making all off season and folks, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why people thought I was overstating this. I, I

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<v Speaker 1>was not arguing that Kenneth Walker was the best player

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<v Speaker 1>that changed teams this off season. That was obviously miles Garrett.

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<v Speaker 1>And Trent McDuffie's a better player, and he left the Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 1>And Jalen Waddell's a hell of a player. DJ Moore's

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<v Speaker 1>a good player. Like, Jalen Phillips is a good player. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what I was arguing is, no team upgraded any single

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<v Speaker 1>position more than the Chiefs upgraded running back. Even Myles

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett to the Rams, he was traded for Jared Burks.

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<v Speaker 1>And I am here to tell you, as great as

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<v Speaker 1>Myles Garrett, even when he's healthy, is, the gap between

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<v Speaker 1>Jared Burks and Myles Garrett is smaller than the gap

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<v Speaker 1>between Isaiah Pacheco post-broken leg and Kenneth Walker. The Chiefs

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<v Speaker 1>have not had a running game that opposing teams... respect

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<v Speaker 1>at all since pacheco broke his leg and even with

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<v Speaker 1>pacheco they they weren't terrified of it he's a really

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<v Speaker 1>good story he's a seventh round pick and i like

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<v Speaker 1>him and i feel sick um that he you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's now having back surgery in detroit like his body

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<v Speaker 1>is broken down on him and that's awful But teams

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<v Speaker 1>last year simply dared the Chiefs to run, and when

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<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs did run, they couldn't run, even against light boxes,

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<v Speaker 1>even against formations that you should be able to run on,

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<v Speaker 1>which allowed teams to drop extra people in coverage, which

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<v Speaker 1>created muddier throwing windows for Patrick, which when you add

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<v Speaker 1>it to the overwhelmingly disappointing receiver production last year, you

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<v Speaker 1>had an offense that just died on the vines. And now...

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<v Speaker 1>You have a team that if you're... The Colts... Next week, DeMondse...

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<v Speaker 1>Are the Colts spending most... Or this week? Their prep?

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<v Speaker 1>Figuring out how to stop the Chiefs pass or run?

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that that's even a question... The fact that

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<v Speaker 1>that's even a question... Makes it so much better for Patrick.

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<v Speaker 1>And so... And... Shout out to Andy Reid for not

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<v Speaker 1>being conservative early. First drive of the game, went for

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<v Speaker 1>a fourth down. Second half, up just a touchdown on

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<v Speaker 1>their own side of the field. Fourth and one at

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<v Speaker 1>the 39. Went for it. And Kenneth Walker pops for

0:18:24.410 --> 0:18:31.510
<v Speaker 1>61 yards. It... Patrick said it at the team luncheon.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to look different, but we want to dominate

0:18:39.630 --> 0:18:50.300
<v Speaker 1>like the old Chiefs. You're damn right. And they're one

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<v Speaker 1>of two teams that has not had a thousand yard

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<v Speaker 1>rusher in the last nine years. Patrick's never had a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand yard rusher. He's never had what you would consider

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<v Speaker 1>a plus plus running back since the first 10 games

0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:09.550
<v Speaker 1>of his career, when cream hunt young cream hunt was

0:19:09.609 --> 0:19:12.750
<v Speaker 1>on the team before they cut him because of the

0:19:12.790 --> 0:19:18.729
<v Speaker 1>domestic violence incident. And so he's been doing it with

0:19:18.790 --> 0:19:24.170
<v Speaker 1>Damian Williams. God bless him. Darren Williams, shady McCoy, old

0:19:24.250 --> 0:19:31.659
<v Speaker 1>shady McCoy, uh, i mean obviously pacheco old kareem hunt

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<v Speaker 1>the the best running back you could argue they the

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<v Speaker 1>the most impactful running back they've had in the last

0:19:41.050 --> 0:19:44.190
<v Speaker 1>five years jerek mckinnon as a pass catcher as a

0:19:44.250 --> 0:19:48.910
<v Speaker 1>receiver out of the backfield and now you've got Kenneth Walker,

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<v Speaker 1>who just ran it right down the Broncos' throats all night.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's talk about the defense for a minute, Demaze.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you've been telling everybody about Delane Woods and Thomas.

0:20:01.930 --> 0:20:03.689
<v Speaker 2>Chris Jones came out and said that this was his

0:20:03.820 --> 0:20:06.480
<v Speaker 2>favorite group of rookies. How impressed were you with them

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<v Speaker 2>in this game?

0:20:08.670 --> 0:20:12.550
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Spaggs gets the primary credit. Delane played three snaps,

0:20:13.310 --> 0:20:18.630
<v Speaker 1>got a pick, and then hurt his shoulder. That's a concern.

0:20:19.550 --> 0:20:23.530
<v Speaker 1>He hurt that shoulder in training camp or in the offseason,

0:20:23.570 --> 0:20:26.270
<v Speaker 1>was held out for some of training camp. The fact

0:20:26.290 --> 0:20:29.270
<v Speaker 1>that it is not, the x-ray was clean is good.

0:20:29.530 --> 0:20:33.210
<v Speaker 1>MRI this morning. If you guys see while we're on

0:20:33.250 --> 0:20:39.369
<v Speaker 1>the air any news on the MRI, You know, let

0:20:39.410 --> 0:20:41.570
<v Speaker 1>me know in here or let us know in the chat,

0:20:41.609 --> 0:20:43.990
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0:21:09.190 --> 0:21:15.090
<v Speaker 1>there's news on Delane's MRI, I'll take it. Peter Woods,

0:21:18.190 --> 0:21:22.150
<v Speaker 1>a year before he was drafted, was projected by some

0:21:22.190 --> 0:21:26.950
<v Speaker 1>to be a top five pick. He then had a

0:21:27.010 --> 0:21:31.010
<v Speaker 1>terrible final year at Clemson. He went 29th. R. Mason

0:21:31.050 --> 0:21:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Thomas has legit burst off the edge and had impact

0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:39.780
<v Speaker 1>last night. The Chiefs last year could not get off

0:21:39.820 --> 0:21:46.530
<v Speaker 1>the field on third down. And people were like, oh man,

0:21:46.550 --> 0:21:52.790
<v Speaker 1>defense wasn't that good last year. And you lose Jalen

0:21:52.830 --> 0:21:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Watson in free agency, you trade McDuffie. Let's talk about

0:21:55.820 --> 0:21:58.740
<v Speaker 1>that for a moment. Jalen Watson was a seventh round pick.

0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:03.500
<v Speaker 1>That was an amazing story for Kansas City. Played great,

0:22:03.600 --> 0:22:06.280
<v Speaker 1>very happy. He got that $ 17 million a year from

0:22:06.300 --> 0:22:10.320
<v Speaker 1>the Rams. He gave up two touchdowns in their opening game,

0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:13.540
<v Speaker 1>and we'll see how he looks outside of Spag's system.

0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:19.970
<v Speaker 1>McDuffie came into the Chiefs and instantly was the best

0:22:20.030 --> 0:22:24.830
<v Speaker 1>slot corner in the NFL. He then, understandably, did not

0:22:24.890 --> 0:22:27.850
<v Speaker 1>want to play in the slot because slot corners don't

0:22:27.869 --> 0:22:32.040
<v Speaker 1>get paid like outside corners. Played on the outside last

0:22:32.100 --> 0:22:35.580
<v Speaker 1>year a lot. Did not play as well as he

0:22:35.619 --> 0:22:38.480
<v Speaker 1>did in the slot. Got traded to the Rams. They

0:22:38.500 --> 0:22:41.720
<v Speaker 1>paid him like an outside corner. He's playing outside corner.

0:22:42.020 --> 0:22:45.580
<v Speaker 1>That's not where he's at his best. I love the player.

0:22:45.820 --> 0:22:48.369
<v Speaker 1>Love the player. He can be the best slot corner

0:22:48.390 --> 0:22:52.649
<v Speaker 1>in football. That's where the Rams should use him. But

0:22:52.690 --> 0:22:57.010
<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs have a history with Spags of getting the

0:22:57.130 --> 0:23:03.020
<v Speaker 1>absolute most out of these secondary guys. And Noel Williams

0:23:03.180 --> 0:23:06.379
<v Speaker 1>was someone they drafted, they believed in, they elevated him.

0:23:06.790 --> 0:23:10.180
<v Speaker 1>Mansoor Delane was the number one corner by a mile

0:23:10.240 --> 0:23:17.070
<v Speaker 1>in this draft. Again, three snaps, one pick. Good start.

0:23:17.109 --> 0:23:23.230
<v Speaker 1>Gotta get healthy. And they got LeJarius Sneed back. Old, vintage,

0:23:23.750 --> 0:23:29.580
<v Speaker 1>Belichick Patriots model of. We develop a player... Someone else

0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:32.320
<v Speaker 1>pays him a bunch of money. He is not good

0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:35.900
<v Speaker 1>with them. They cut him. He comes back, and he's

0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:40.270
<v Speaker 1>excellent immediately again. I'm a Titans fan. I'm like, you

0:23:40.290 --> 0:23:44.110
<v Speaker 1>got to be kidding me. Jerry Sneed, while he's with

0:23:44.150 --> 0:23:46.510
<v Speaker 1>the Titans, all he had was knee surgery and got

0:23:46.609 --> 0:23:49.260
<v Speaker 1>questioned about an alleged drive-by shooting that he was in

0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:52.020
<v Speaker 1>a car for. They got rid of him, and now

0:23:52.060 --> 0:23:54.900
<v Speaker 1>he's back, and he's just talking shit to Cortland Sutton

0:23:55.240 --> 0:24:01.480
<v Speaker 1>and locking people down. I mean, it's just delightful. And

0:24:01.540 --> 0:24:03.399
<v Speaker 1>if they have a pass rush, they're going to be fine.

0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:07.580
<v Speaker 1>Because here's the other thing to Monza. That was supposed

0:24:07.660 --> 0:24:11.700
<v Speaker 1>to be the best offensive line in the NFL. Didn't

0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:18.460
<v Speaker 1>look like it yesterday. And so in 2022, the Chiefs

0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:22.119
<v Speaker 1>had the youngest defense in the NFL. And then in

0:24:22.180 --> 0:24:25.060
<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl, there's Trent McDuffie on the sidelines saying,

0:24:25.119 --> 0:24:27.800
<v Speaker 1>we won the Super Bowl, we don't even understand the

0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:34.970
<v Speaker 1>defense yet. They needed, again, it's very early, but they

0:24:35.030 --> 0:24:40.970
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<v Speaker 1>All right, Demanze, let's talk Broncos.

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:18.719
<v Speaker 2>You said the Broncos are going to show everybody they

0:26:18.740 --> 0:26:21.940
<v Speaker 2>were due for regression. Was this that, or was this

0:26:21.980 --> 0:26:23.260
<v Speaker 2>just like a week one thing?

0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:31.280
<v Speaker 1>If I'm a Broncos fan, I'm very nervous. For a

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:34.159
<v Speaker 1>number of reasons. And again, I picked the Broncos to

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:42.890
<v Speaker 1>make the playoffs. Reason I'm nervous, number one, Demonse. Here's

0:26:42.930 --> 0:26:48.940
<v Speaker 1>the Broncos opening couple months of football. Next week, home

0:26:48.980 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 1>against the Jags. Then the Rams. Then at the Niners.

0:26:56.740 --> 0:27:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Then at the Chargers. Not that hard. Then home for

0:27:00.540 --> 0:27:09.690
<v Speaker 1>the Seahawks on a short week. That's the first five games. Jags, Rams, Niners, Chargers, Seahawks. Then, theoretically,

0:27:09.730 --> 0:27:14.150
<v Speaker 1>a little respite in Arizona, even though they looked awesome. Yeah.

0:27:15.020 --> 0:27:18.060
<v Speaker 1>And then back at home against Kansas City. Now the

0:27:18.180 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 1>end of their schedule. After that. It's smooth sailing mostly.

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:27.010
<v Speaker 1>Got a Bills and a Patriots game late. But this

0:27:27.050 --> 0:27:30.310
<v Speaker 1>thing could get away from them quick. This was a

0:27:30.410 --> 0:27:32.730
<v Speaker 1>very big game for them. And they didn't just lose.

0:27:32.770 --> 0:27:37.530
<v Speaker 1>They got embarrassed. They couldn't tackle. They couldn't exploit the

0:27:37.590 --> 0:27:41.010
<v Speaker 1>undrafted free agent at left tackle. They couldn't run the ball.

0:27:41.350 --> 0:27:42.210
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Waddell.

0:27:43.990 --> 0:27:44.170
<v Speaker 2>Like.

0:27:46.210 --> 0:27:49.530
<v Speaker 1>Someone should tell them they traded for Jalen Waddle. Maybe

0:27:49.570 --> 0:27:56.260
<v Speaker 1>throw him the ball. And Bo Nix looked flustered. Couldn't

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:59.300
<v Speaker 1>stop dropping the ball. One of them was not called

0:27:59.340 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 1>a drop. It was called a forward pass. More on

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:03.619
<v Speaker 1>that when we talk about the Lions game. I don't

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:07.480
<v Speaker 1>know when this god dog rule changed. These things that

0:28:07.500 --> 0:28:10.660
<v Speaker 1>have been quarterback fumbles my whole life. They're like, no, actually...

0:28:11.790 --> 0:28:14.590
<v Speaker 1>We saw his intent in the back of his mind.

0:28:14.650 --> 0:28:16.710
<v Speaker 1>He wanted to throw forward. So how can we call

0:28:16.730 --> 0:28:17.310
<v Speaker 1>it a fumble?

0:28:17.630 --> 0:28:21.330
<v Speaker 2>It's because his hand was diagonal with his head.

0:28:22.470 --> 0:28:25.070
<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing. I know.

0:28:26.609 --> 0:28:27.659
<v Speaker 2>Parallel. Screw it.

0:28:27.690 --> 0:28:31.470
<v Speaker 1>We'll just talk about it now. I know that if

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:35.980
<v Speaker 1>you're going forward and get hit, you only have to

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:38.620
<v Speaker 1>be going forward a tiny bit. And if you get

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:40.740
<v Speaker 1>hit and the ball goes forward, it's an incomplete pass.

0:28:41.020 --> 0:28:48.250
<v Speaker 1>I know that. But Bo Nix was going forward and

0:28:48.310 --> 0:28:52.130
<v Speaker 1>didn't get hit. The ball got slapped out of his

0:28:52.150 --> 0:28:57.420
<v Speaker 1>hand and went behind him. I honestly feel like this

0:28:57.500 --> 0:29:01.830
<v Speaker 1>is a Berenstain Bears situation. Like where everyone thinks it's

0:29:01.850 --> 0:29:05.550
<v Speaker 1>the Berenstain Bears and we're like, no, it's a Berenstain Bears.

0:29:05.850 --> 0:29:08.090
<v Speaker 1>What's that called, guys? Put it in the doc. The

0:29:08.110 --> 0:29:11.940
<v Speaker 1>Mandela effect. Yeah, when everyone's like, yeah, I remember Nelson

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:14.580
<v Speaker 1>Mandela dying in prison. They're like, no, he didn't actually.

0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:18.380
<v Speaker 1>That's wrong. I feel like that's what's happening right now

0:29:18.420 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 1>with fumbles in the NFL. Where all of us collectively

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:25.800
<v Speaker 1>are like, that's a fucking fumble. And then the refs

0:29:25.940 --> 0:29:29.340
<v Speaker 1>and Mike Pereira and everyone's like, no, you rubes.

0:29:29.900 --> 0:29:30.940
<v Speaker 2>Like, you rubes.

0:29:31.900 --> 0:29:35.390
<v Speaker 1>The rule has always been whatever the intent in the

0:29:35.450 --> 0:29:38.170
<v Speaker 1>quarterback's heart is, is how we rule it. I'm like, what?

0:29:38.190 --> 0:29:41.250
<v Speaker 1>The ball's behind him. Like, what are you talking about?

0:29:41.730 --> 0:29:45.750
<v Speaker 1>So I thought Bo Nix's was obviously fumble. His hand

0:29:45.810 --> 0:29:49.390
<v Speaker 1>is going forward. And then a Chiefs player doesn't hit him.

0:29:49.410 --> 0:29:51.920
<v Speaker 1>And even if they do hit him, the ball went

0:29:51.940 --> 0:29:53.940
<v Speaker 1>behind him. But they hit the ball. They're like, no,

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:57.220
<v Speaker 1>that's an incomplete pass. What? And the Jared Goff thing

0:29:57.240 --> 0:30:01.310
<v Speaker 1>was even worse. Once again, I'm right about replay. Everyone

0:30:01.330 --> 0:30:04.370
<v Speaker 1>will agree. Every single person watching that game in real

0:30:04.410 --> 0:30:06.130
<v Speaker 1>time when the Jared Goff thing happened, they're like, well,

0:30:06.150 --> 0:30:11.490
<v Speaker 1>that's a fumble. And they're like, no. Goff hadn't even

0:30:11.530 --> 0:30:15.730
<v Speaker 1>brought the ball forward yet. And he threw it backwards.

0:30:16.610 --> 0:30:21.930
<v Speaker 1>They're like, yeah, but in his hopes and dreams, he

0:30:21.950 --> 0:30:23.610
<v Speaker 1>was going to throw a forward pass. So how can

0:30:23.630 --> 0:30:31.410
<v Speaker 1>we not honor that? What? I'm just perplexed. And everyone's like, no,

0:30:31.430 --> 0:30:36.190
<v Speaker 1>this is the rules. I'm pretty good about knowing the

0:30:36.270 --> 0:30:39.990
<v Speaker 1>weird NFL rules. And like, ah, people think.

0:30:39.870 --> 0:30:41.550
<v Speaker 2>It's this, but it's that.

0:30:42.470 --> 0:30:45.750
<v Speaker 1>Yes, but that's not even my problem. My problem is

0:30:45.850 --> 0:30:49.110
<v Speaker 1>I feel like this is a psyop. That they're just like,

0:30:49.410 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 1>that they just decided like, not only are we changing it,

0:30:55.580 --> 0:30:58.490
<v Speaker 1>we're not going to tell anyone we changed it. And again,

0:30:58.510 --> 0:31:01.930
<v Speaker 1>we're going to, everyone's going to agree. Like, you know what?

0:31:02.930 --> 0:31:08.310
<v Speaker 1>This is what, hot take. I now know what being

0:31:08.650 --> 0:31:11.979
<v Speaker 1>gaslit feels like. I feel like the NFL is gaslighting

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:17.290
<v Speaker 1>me about what a fumble is. I'm like, and they're

0:31:17.310 --> 0:31:19.950
<v Speaker 1>just saying it's so matter of factly like I'm dumb.

0:31:20.430 --> 0:31:23.780
<v Speaker 1>Like on the Jared Goff play, they're just like, no.

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Like we all know the rule is even if it's

0:31:27.140 --> 0:31:29.820
<v Speaker 1>not moving forward, if he just starts to bring it

0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 1>up and he intended to throw it forward, what? And

0:31:33.820 --> 0:31:39.550
<v Speaker 1>they're just like, yeah, that's the rule. And part of me, honestly,

0:31:39.570 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 1>when I saw the Jared Goff thing, I was so

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:46.620
<v Speaker 1>unsettled by it, by how matter of fact they were about, yeah,

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:49.330
<v Speaker 1>of course that's the rule, that I almost didn't want

0:31:49.350 --> 0:31:51.810
<v Speaker 1>to talk about it because I was like, is that

0:31:51.850 --> 0:31:56.110
<v Speaker 1>like embarrassing for me? That I didn't know? But then

0:31:56.150 --> 0:31:58.830
<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, I do know. And this is

0:31:58.890 --> 0:32:01.980
<v Speaker 1>not how it's been called. Neither here nor there.

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Lighten the gas.

0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 1>I am. Do you know, Demondze, where gaslight, the term,

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:09.380
<v Speaker 1>comes from?

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:13.540
<v Speaker 2>It's from your car, right? It's like, the car actually

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 2>has like 50 miles when the gaslight comes on?

0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:20.620
<v Speaker 1>No, honestly, not a terrible guess. No, it is from

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:26.270
<v Speaker 1>a movie called Gaslight. Or is it called on? Fact

0:32:26.290 --> 0:32:29.190
<v Speaker 1>check me on that. Movie Gaslight. Yeah, a 1944 movie

0:32:29.210 --> 0:32:29.670
<v Speaker 1>where a man.

0:32:33.300 --> 0:32:37.620
<v Speaker 1>Is basically executing psychological warfare on his wife, and one

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:41.670
<v Speaker 1>of the things he does is he leaves the gas

0:32:41.730 --> 0:32:45.590
<v Speaker 1>burner on, and so she's like, do you smell that?

0:32:45.650 --> 0:32:48.270
<v Speaker 1>He's like, what are you talking about? Like, no, I

0:32:48.310 --> 0:32:49.090
<v Speaker 1>don't smell that.

0:32:49.150 --> 0:32:49.630
<v Speaker 2>How evil.

0:32:49.650 --> 0:32:55.290
<v Speaker 1>Exactly. But that's where the term comes from. A 1944 movie,

0:32:55.730 --> 0:32:58.110
<v Speaker 1>and then it was basically, that term was kind of

0:32:58.190 --> 0:33:03.010
<v Speaker 1>in hibernation for the better part of 80 years, and then...

0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:08.540
<v Speaker 1>I'll just be honest. Therapy speak, brought it back. Now

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:11.580
<v Speaker 1>everything's gaslighting. Now you're in an argument with your girlfriend

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:13.420
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, I didn't do that. And she's like,

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 1>you're gaslighting me. And you're like, no, but I literally didn't. Like,

0:33:17.020 --> 0:33:20.300
<v Speaker 1>I'm not like, what do you mean? You're like, why?

0:33:20.980 --> 0:33:22.960
<v Speaker 1>You're like, you left the door open. It's like, no,

0:33:23.050 --> 0:33:26.950
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I didn't like you. I'm sick of the gaslighting,

0:33:27.210 --> 0:33:29.730
<v Speaker 1>but it made a big comeback. Okay. Let's get focused.

0:33:29.890 --> 0:33:33.970
<v Speaker 1>We wanted to filter. Sorry. I was trying to talk

0:33:33.990 --> 0:33:37.210
<v Speaker 1>about Jared Goff. No, I wasn't. I actually was not.

0:33:37.230 --> 0:33:39.230
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to talk about Bo Nix. I was

0:33:39.250 --> 0:33:43.450
<v Speaker 1>talking about Bo Nix and how shaky he looked. Back

0:33:43.510 --> 0:33:46.770
<v Speaker 1>on topic. Because Bo Nix fumbled three times, and we're

0:33:46.790 --> 0:33:50.470
<v Speaker 1>not even counting that fake one. That wasn't a fake one. Now,

0:33:50.570 --> 0:33:52.630
<v Speaker 1>one of them was a bad snap. He fumbled once

0:33:52.690 --> 0:33:55.390
<v Speaker 1>on the sideline. That would have been scooped and scored,

0:33:55.430 --> 0:33:58.790
<v Speaker 1>but Snead barely stepped out of bounds. He dropped it once.

0:33:59.610 --> 0:34:03.670
<v Speaker 1>He couldn't make a throw. He was 4.7 yards per attempt.

0:34:03.930 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 1>He was awful. Yeah. That's where that's concerning the only receiver.

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 1>And this is gosh, darn it for the fifth straight year.

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:15.259
<v Speaker 1>The chiefs just can't cover tight ends. Evan Ingram just

0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:21.259
<v Speaker 1>killing us. Um, but if I, another one of my

0:34:21.340 --> 0:34:24.910
<v Speaker 1>big off season takes to Monza and then we'll get

0:34:24.930 --> 0:34:27.969
<v Speaker 1>to the other games, Jesus, a half hour on this game. Um,

0:34:31.900 --> 0:34:34.490
<v Speaker 1>The best defense last year is not always the best

0:34:34.550 --> 0:34:38.830
<v Speaker 1>defense this year. In fact, it very often changes a lot. Offense,

0:34:39.410 --> 0:34:43.910
<v Speaker 1>very stable, relatively speaking, year to year because it's so

0:34:44.030 --> 0:34:48.480
<v Speaker 1>quarterback based. So the best offenses are, you know, if

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:50.259
<v Speaker 1>you're a top five offense last year, you got a

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:52.020
<v Speaker 1>good chance to be in top five offense this year.

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:56.359
<v Speaker 1>Like that's usually how that goes. Defense, there's so much.

0:34:56.989 --> 0:35:00.350
<v Speaker 1>randomness of do you you know do are they sacks

0:35:00.410 --> 0:35:03.290
<v Speaker 1>or pressure or just pressures do you win the turnover

0:35:03.330 --> 0:35:06.669
<v Speaker 1>battle different what's the opposing quarterback schedule all those things

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:09.439
<v Speaker 1>and what were the three best defenses in the league

0:35:09.460 --> 0:35:13.200
<v Speaker 1>last year by a lot Seattle well they look pretty

0:35:13.300 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 1>awesome again Houston couldn't get any pressure on Josh Allen

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:25.850
<v Speaker 1>the whole game allowed 36 Denver you know Rookie left tackle, undrafted.

0:35:26.170 --> 0:35:33.969
<v Speaker 1>Nick Benito, erased. Allow 31, and they can't tackle anymore. Now, again,

0:35:34.010 --> 0:35:39.420
<v Speaker 1>I think Denver's defense will be better, but defense fluctuates

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:42.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot year to year. Go ahead. Extra.

0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 2>But, yeah, just with Nick Benito, it sounded like there

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:49.100
<v Speaker 2>was something. The way they were lining him up wasn't

0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:51.080
<v Speaker 2>letting him be able to work the way he usually

0:35:51.100 --> 0:35:52.719
<v Speaker 2>does is what I got from it.

0:35:54.680 --> 0:36:01.710
<v Speaker 1>You know what, Nick Benito? You got to beat the Chiefs.

0:36:02.770 --> 0:36:07.569
<v Speaker 1>Gosh darn it. This is embarrassing for me. You know what?

0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:10.500
<v Speaker 1>It's more embarrassing for Nick Benito. I was about to say,

0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:12.520
<v Speaker 1>you got to beat. And I was sick of calling

0:36:12.540 --> 0:36:14.700
<v Speaker 1>him an undrafted free agent. So I was like, I

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:16.319
<v Speaker 1>should call him his name. But then I realized I

0:36:16.340 --> 0:36:20.130
<v Speaker 1>forgot his name. Khalil Benson. You got to beat Khalil Benson.

0:36:20.910 --> 0:36:21.009
<v Speaker 2>Um.

0:36:21.930 --> 0:36:24.629
<v Speaker 1>There's one other Broncos thing that has to be discussed here.

0:36:25.290 --> 0:36:27.549
<v Speaker 2>How long until you think Sean Payton takes back the

0:36:27.590 --> 0:36:28.590
<v Speaker 2>reins on the play calling?

0:36:30.430 --> 0:36:38.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh boy. If I'm Davis Webb, I'm a little anxious.

0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:45.740
<v Speaker 1>Keep in mind, here's the timeline of Davis Webb becoming

0:36:45.780 --> 0:36:52.940
<v Speaker 1>the Broncos play caller. Davis Webb had potential head coaching opportunities,

0:36:54.010 --> 0:37:01.310
<v Speaker 1>including possibly the Buffalo Bills and Josh Allen. Sean Payton

0:37:01.350 --> 0:37:04.590
<v Speaker 1>did not want to lose him. So Sean Payton said,

0:37:04.610 --> 0:37:08.710
<v Speaker 1>I will, for the first time in my career, give

0:37:08.790 --> 0:37:11.890
<v Speaker 1>up play calling and give it to you. So you

0:37:12.050 --> 0:37:16.260
<v Speaker 1>stay here. So Davis Webb's like, okay, I will forego

0:37:16.340 --> 0:37:22.110
<v Speaker 1>my head coaching opportunities potentially to stay here. At halftime

0:37:22.170 --> 0:37:24.660
<v Speaker 1>of week one, Sean Payton was asked about it and

0:37:24.700 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 1>couldn't even lie. He was like, ask me after the game,

0:37:28.140 --> 0:37:31.759
<v Speaker 1>but this sucks. He didn't say this sucks part. It

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:38.359
<v Speaker 1>is an absolute non-zero chance that Sean Payton, in short order,

0:37:38.780 --> 0:37:44.990
<v Speaker 1>snatches that back from Davis Webb, which totally neuters his

0:37:46.489 --> 0:37:52.770
<v Speaker 1>head coaching ascension. And then Davis Webb's just like out

0:37:52.810 --> 0:37:53.150
<v Speaker 1>of luck.

0:37:54.050 --> 0:37:55.009
<v Speaker 2>In a tough situation.

0:37:55.650 --> 0:37:56.310
<v Speaker 1>Tough spot.

0:37:56.330 --> 0:37:56.649
<v Speaker 2>This year.

0:37:56.989 --> 0:38:00.709
<v Speaker 1>And it is something to watch. That is absolutely something

0:38:00.730 --> 0:38:04.510
<v Speaker 1>to watch because Sean Payton was not enjoying that. Was

0:38:04.590 --> 0:38:10.930
<v Speaker 1>not enjoying that. All right. We've got 14 other games

0:38:10.969 --> 0:38:14.250
<v Speaker 1>to get to. So let's try to do it as

0:38:14.330 --> 0:38:18.350
<v Speaker 1>quickly as we can. Let's get to probably the best game.

0:38:19.070 --> 0:38:23.080
<v Speaker 1>of Sunday, and probably the most important, Bills-Texans.

0:38:23.980 --> 0:38:27.140
<v Speaker 2>You and America were very excited about this game, Houston-Buffalo

0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:29.620
<v Speaker 2>on Sunday. It was a light show, lived up to

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:31.680
<v Speaker 2>the hype, but it all came down to a dropped

0:38:32.140 --> 0:38:36.440
<v Speaker 2>pick at the end by Laster there. Is rollercoaster Josh

0:38:36.540 --> 0:38:37.040
<v Speaker 2>Allen back?

0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:43.370
<v Speaker 1>So here's the thing. Probably yes, and I don't think

0:38:43.430 --> 0:38:44.060
<v Speaker 1>that's bad. I.

0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:55.750
<v Speaker 1>So Josh Allen was utterly sensational in this game for

0:38:55.750 --> 0:39:02.570
<v Speaker 1>58 and a half minutes. He's running all over Buffalo. Well,

0:39:03.270 --> 0:39:07.129
<v Speaker 1>one great run. And then he sniped one touchdown from

0:39:07.190 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 1>James Cook. And I really encourage folks, really encourage folks.

0:39:13.130 --> 0:39:15.069
<v Speaker 1>Because the NFL tweeted it out because it was like

0:39:15.110 --> 0:39:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Josh Allen's 80th or 81st or something rushing touchdown. An

0:39:18.260 --> 0:39:23.800
<v Speaker 1>insane number. Watch James Cook on the Josh Allen quarterback

0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:30.910
<v Speaker 1>sneak from the one. He doesn't love it. love it.

0:39:30.910 --> 0:39:34.220
<v Speaker 1>And it's not like Chris Broussard, like, I don't like it.

0:39:34.370 --> 0:39:38.370
<v Speaker 1>I love it. I really don't like it. He didn't

0:39:38.390 --> 0:39:40.570
<v Speaker 1>like it. He's like, that could have been my touchdown.

0:39:41.130 --> 0:39:44.780
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting sick of this shit. But Josh Allen was, again,

0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:48.339
<v Speaker 1>you guys can say I'm being unfair. Watch it. You

0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:51.430
<v Speaker 1>can see it. They snap the ball. He just immediately

0:39:51.469 --> 0:39:55.130
<v Speaker 1>starts walking off the field. He's like, this is outrageous.

0:39:56.930 --> 0:40:02.000
<v Speaker 1>But Josh Allen was great. He was great. His defense

0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:04.200
<v Speaker 1>was not that good. C.J. Stroud looked like a real

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:08.320
<v Speaker 1>quarterback for the first time in a while. The Bills

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:11.359
<v Speaker 1>offensive line was great, holding up for him against that

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:16.960
<v Speaker 1>edge rush. But Josh was great. And they were in

0:40:17.020 --> 0:40:25.069
<v Speaker 1>position to win the game. And with a minute 48

0:40:25.070 --> 0:40:30.049
<v Speaker 1>left at the Houston 34, so in field goal range,

0:40:30.110 --> 0:40:36.230
<v Speaker 1>not a chip shot, down one on second and 11

0:40:36.650 --> 0:40:43.879
<v Speaker 1>for no reason whatsoever. He threw up not a 50-50 ball,

0:40:44.780 --> 0:40:49.840
<v Speaker 1>a 90-10 the defense's way ball up to Josh Palmer.

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:54.540
<v Speaker 1>And Kamari Lassiter let it hit him in his chest,

0:40:55.840 --> 0:40:59.140
<v Speaker 1>and it fell harmlessly to the ground. And the very

0:40:59.180 --> 0:41:02.910
<v Speaker 1>next play, on third and 11, Josh Allen threw an

0:41:03.210 --> 0:41:08.490
<v Speaker 1>absolute laser beam to Josh Palmer for the game-winning touchdown.

0:41:09.790 --> 0:41:13.489
<v Speaker 2>How different is the discussion if Lassiter catches the ball?

0:41:13.530 --> 0:41:20.279
<v Speaker 1>Well, listen, if Lassiter catches it, Josh is, by some folks...

0:41:21.219 --> 0:41:27.950
<v Speaker 1>getting fairly heavily criticized and by, and by, you know,

0:41:28.050 --> 0:41:29.870
<v Speaker 1>the folks who are supposed to be smarter than the

0:41:29.930 --> 0:41:33.350
<v Speaker 1>rest of us, they're like, well, actually, you know, he

0:41:33.390 --> 0:41:37.049
<v Speaker 1>played so great. Who cares? He threw the game away. Like,

0:41:37.070 --> 0:41:41.810
<v Speaker 1>cause that's a bit that that's about 30% of the

0:41:41.850 --> 0:41:43.989
<v Speaker 1>people covering the NFL thing. It'd be better if we

0:41:44.010 --> 0:41:47.790
<v Speaker 1>didn't fucking keep score. Be like, let's, we can feel

0:41:47.850 --> 0:41:55.380
<v Speaker 1>who deserved the win. And so that is what happened.

0:41:58.160 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 1>But here's what I will say about what happened that

0:42:00.620 --> 0:42:04.510
<v Speaker 1>I think will surprise people. If I'm a Bills fan,

0:42:04.530 --> 0:42:07.190
<v Speaker 1>I'm totally fine with it. And that's actually the only

0:42:07.250 --> 0:42:11.330
<v Speaker 1>way you're ever going to win a Super Bowl. Let

0:42:11.810 --> 0:42:18.080
<v Speaker 1>full YOLO Josh Allen and just hope he catches a

0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:23.299
<v Speaker 1>hot hand in January. And I think Joe Brady is

0:42:23.340 --> 0:42:27.009
<v Speaker 1>going to lean into that. I think Joe Brady got

0:42:27.030 --> 0:42:29.529
<v Speaker 1>the job in part because he's so tight with Josh Allen.

0:42:29.850 --> 0:42:31.850
<v Speaker 1>I think Josh Allen wants to play this way. I

0:42:32.430 --> 0:42:36.629
<v Speaker 1>think the Bills are the scariest this way. Now, that

0:42:37.050 --> 0:42:42.040
<v Speaker 1>is a recipe for potentially you losing in the playoffs

0:42:42.140 --> 0:42:48.420
<v Speaker 1>to an inferior team. with an inferior quarterback like you

0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:52.720
<v Speaker 1>did last year against Bo Nix. But it's also the

0:42:53.010 --> 0:42:59.170
<v Speaker 1>only recipe for you guys beating, I'll just be honest,

0:42:59.489 --> 0:43:03.629
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs if he's rolling or under

0:43:03.690 --> 0:43:12.150
<v Speaker 1>any circumstances. You've got to let Josh be Josh. Rollercoaster

0:43:12.190 --> 0:43:15.930
<v Speaker 1>be damned. And just hope that in the playoffs they

0:43:15.950 --> 0:43:20.490
<v Speaker 1>drop it. Because you're not going to be good enough

0:43:21.110 --> 0:43:25.170
<v Speaker 1>to win four consecutive playoff games. You don't have a

0:43:25.210 --> 0:43:28.969
<v Speaker 1>dominant defense. You don't have great receivers. You have a

0:43:29.090 --> 0:43:33.219
<v Speaker 1>great running back and a great offensive line and one

0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:35.940
<v Speaker 1>of the most talented quarterbacks in football. You just got

0:43:35.960 --> 0:43:40.259
<v Speaker 1>to hope he gets hot. And that the mistakes don't

0:43:40.300 --> 0:43:44.740
<v Speaker 1>kill you. That's the scariest Bills team. The scariest version

0:43:44.780 --> 0:43:47.779
<v Speaker 1>of the Bills is we're building the whole plane out

0:43:47.820 --> 0:43:55.739
<v Speaker 1>of Josh Allen plus James Cook. And there's going to

0:43:55.780 --> 0:43:59.880
<v Speaker 1>be a lot of variance. But that's just what you

0:43:59.920 --> 0:44:05.430
<v Speaker 1>got to do. So I'm not going to... Listen, I

0:44:05.469 --> 0:44:07.540
<v Speaker 1>thought Josh on the whole... He got away with it.

0:44:08.290 --> 0:44:09.810
<v Speaker 1>And because he got away with it, that was just

0:44:09.850 --> 0:44:22.180
<v Speaker 1>an awesome game. Like sometimes... It just goes your way. And... Bills, Chiefs, Ravens.

0:44:23.870 --> 0:44:27.969
<v Speaker 1>Those are the teams that matter in the AFC. A weekend.

0:44:28.510 --> 0:44:34.370
<v Speaker 1>I don't care. Listen, maybe the Jags will delightfully surprise me.

0:44:35.010 --> 0:44:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Maybe the Chargers, more on them in a bit, will

0:44:38.380 --> 0:44:41.000
<v Speaker 1>surprise me. But it's those three teams.

0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:42.739
<v Speaker 3>And.

0:44:43.980 --> 0:44:50.740
<v Speaker 1>The Bills, I don't feel, I think the Bills' best

0:44:50.820 --> 0:44:54.020
<v Speaker 1>path to beating one or both of those teams in

0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:58.160
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs is Josh just has a monster game and

0:44:58.200 --> 0:45:01.239
<v Speaker 1>gets away with the craziness. It's just who he is.

0:45:01.340 --> 0:45:03.680
<v Speaker 1>It's who he wants to be. I know everybody kills

0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:09.580
<v Speaker 1>me for this. His first playoff game ever tied in overtime,

0:45:10.620 --> 0:45:12.799
<v Speaker 1>he threw a backwards lateral over the back of his head.

0:45:14.160 --> 0:45:18.270
<v Speaker 1>For no reason. He's just a wild stallion. Like, you

0:45:18.290 --> 0:45:23.430
<v Speaker 1>just gotta let him be. No, that's a compliment. Yeah,

0:45:23.489 --> 0:45:24.690
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's just like....

0:45:26.710 --> 0:45:27.950
<v Speaker 2>Can't tame it.

0:45:29.010 --> 0:45:32.469
<v Speaker 1>Can't tame it. Like, Brew made this comp yesterday to Monzae.

0:45:32.489 --> 0:45:36.540
<v Speaker 1>I think you'll like it. There is some prime, again, prime,

0:45:36.800 --> 0:45:44.550
<v Speaker 1>apex Russell Westbrook to him. Where it's just like, You

0:45:44.590 --> 0:45:45.140
<v Speaker 1>live and die.

0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:46.990
<v Speaker 2>You got to take the bad with the good. Yeah,

0:45:47.010 --> 0:45:48.190
<v Speaker 2>you got to take the bad with the good. And

0:45:48.210 --> 0:45:48.790
<v Speaker 2>the good is great.

0:45:49.410 --> 0:45:52.310
<v Speaker 1>And the good is great. Yeah. So I'm not going

0:45:52.330 --> 0:45:56.510
<v Speaker 1>to kill him for that. They scored 36 on Houston.

0:45:57.070 --> 0:46:00.230
<v Speaker 1>And the last touchdown was a laser beam. Yeah, well,

0:46:00.270 --> 0:46:06.719
<v Speaker 1>so listen. I think Buffalo's offensive line's been underrated. I

0:46:06.739 --> 0:46:09.859
<v Speaker 1>think Houston Stevens will be fine. D'Amico's too good. My

0:46:09.900 --> 0:46:13.190
<v Speaker 1>guess is that's the most points... They'll give up all year.

0:46:14.070 --> 0:46:17.290
<v Speaker 1>If I'm a Texans fan, while the end of the

0:46:17.330 --> 0:46:22.790
<v Speaker 1>game sucked and CJ's fumbles sucked, CJ throwing for 275,

0:46:22.790 --> 0:46:28.270
<v Speaker 1>couple touchdowns. I'm like, okay, we can build on this.

0:46:29.590 --> 0:46:34.550
<v Speaker 1>Like that is not a disappointing. Yeah, it's not a

0:46:34.610 --> 0:46:40.670
<v Speaker 1>disappointing loss. It is disappointing, but it's not a devastating loss.

0:46:42.010 --> 0:46:44.410
<v Speaker 1>And you just assume the defense will be better. And

0:46:44.450 --> 0:46:46.150
<v Speaker 1>if CJ can be anywhere close to that, you're in

0:46:46.170 --> 0:46:47.330
<v Speaker 1>good shape. All right, next game.

0:46:48.469 --> 0:46:51.800
<v Speaker 2>You were skeptical of the Giants all over the offseason

0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:54.120
<v Speaker 2>and loved the moves that Dallas made in the offseason.

0:46:54.620 --> 0:46:57.060
<v Speaker 2>But it was the Giants who performed and came through.

0:46:57.460 --> 0:47:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Harbaugh was obviously first game with the new team. What

0:47:00.980 --> 0:47:04.340
<v Speaker 2>was the bigger story here, the Cowboys' loss or the Giants' win?

0:47:04.360 --> 0:47:08.390
<v Speaker 1>The bigger story was the Cowboys. So we'll get to

0:47:08.430 --> 0:47:11.089
<v Speaker 1>the Giants in a minute. He did look good. Yeah.

0:47:11.620 --> 0:47:16.110
<v Speaker 1>Bigger story was the Cowboys' loss because there were two

0:47:16.230 --> 0:47:22.450
<v Speaker 1>teams to Monzae this offseason that the general media sentiment

0:47:22.489 --> 0:47:28.120
<v Speaker 1>about did not align at all, not at all, with

0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:32.660
<v Speaker 1>the betting odds. And they were in opposite directions. And

0:47:32.700 --> 0:47:36.279
<v Speaker 1>those two teams were the Chiefs and the Cowboys. The

0:47:36.400 --> 0:47:43.090
<v Speaker 1>Chiefs were discussed as an average team that was around

0:47:43.110 --> 0:47:48.089
<v Speaker 1>a coin flip to make the playoffs. And Vegas had

0:47:48.130 --> 0:47:50.989
<v Speaker 1>them with the fifth best odds to win the Super

0:47:51.030 --> 0:47:55.279
<v Speaker 1>Bowl and the favorites to win their division. But that

0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:57.160
<v Speaker 1>is not how they were discussed. I think in the

0:47:57.200 --> 0:48:00.279
<v Speaker 1>whole national media, only me and Barnwell picked them to

0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:06.410
<v Speaker 1>win the Super Bowl. The Cowboys were the opposite. Vegas

0:48:06.430 --> 0:48:11.910
<v Speaker 1>saw the Cowboys as a decidedly mediocre team. around the

0:48:11.950 --> 0:48:18.050
<v Speaker 1>13th best Super Bowl odds, underdogs to win the division,

0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:22.320
<v Speaker 1>slightly better than a coin flip to make the playoffs.

0:48:24.000 --> 0:48:28.540
<v Speaker 1>And they were discussed as a very trendy Super Bowl pick.

0:48:31.000 --> 0:48:37.009
<v Speaker 1>And Dak was a very popular MVP pick. And week one,

0:48:37.030 --> 0:48:43.340
<v Speaker 1>they were bad at everything. Pickens, No showed. CeeDee Lamb

0:48:43.380 --> 0:48:47.560
<v Speaker 1>was fine. Javante Williams' one big play was taunting on

0:48:47.600 --> 0:48:50.960
<v Speaker 1>a touchdown down 14. That cost them the ability to

0:48:51.000 --> 0:48:52.640
<v Speaker 1>go for two if they wanted to, and then they

0:48:52.680 --> 0:48:55.460
<v Speaker 1>missed the extra point. And the defense they poured all

0:48:55.480 --> 0:49:00.140
<v Speaker 1>those resources into, nobody knew what they were doing. I

0:49:00.180 --> 0:49:03.759
<v Speaker 1>thought Chris Collinsworth was going to have a conniption fit.

0:49:04.020 --> 0:49:08.859
<v Speaker 1>Chris Collinsworth's like, they can't cover the flat. He's wide open,

0:49:08.880 --> 0:49:15.560
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, they can't cover... The right flank, not flank,

0:49:15.620 --> 0:49:19.029
<v Speaker 1>but the, you know, midway down the field to the

0:49:19.090 --> 0:49:21.880
<v Speaker 1>right side, they just kept hitting. they it was it

0:49:21.920 --> 0:49:29.460
<v Speaker 1>was playing the Giants Greg Roman and Matt Nagy were

0:49:29.500 --> 0:49:32.739
<v Speaker 1>calling plays like when you play your young cousin on

0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:34.980
<v Speaker 1>Madden and he doesn't know how the coverages work and

0:49:35.000 --> 0:49:36.980
<v Speaker 1>you're like all right I guess we'll just do it

0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:41.140
<v Speaker 1>again that guy's still open Right. You just say, all right,

0:49:42.020 --> 0:49:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm going four wide and you're in goal line. He's

0:49:45.260 --> 0:49:50.020
<v Speaker 1>going to be open. Adjust. And the Cowboys couldn't do it.

0:49:51.170 --> 0:49:56.549
<v Speaker 1>So we've talked a lot about, listen, week one can

0:49:56.570 --> 0:50:00.450
<v Speaker 1>be a liar. And we don't know why we're seeing

0:50:00.489 --> 0:50:06.049
<v Speaker 1>what we're seeing in week one. If the Giants are

0:50:06.330 --> 0:50:11.170
<v Speaker 1>just stone excellent. then the Cowboys shouldn't be that worried.

0:50:12.410 --> 0:50:15.319
<v Speaker 1>If the Giants are who I think they are, which

0:50:15.480 --> 0:50:21.820
<v Speaker 1>is going to, you know, struggle to get to 500,

0:50:21.820 --> 0:50:27.320
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys should be terrified. Now on the Giants side,

0:50:29.340 --> 0:50:33.149
<v Speaker 1>you like Jackson Dart. Danny likes Jackson Dart. He looked

0:50:33.210 --> 0:50:37.750
<v Speaker 1>really good. I credit where it's due. It's first game

0:50:37.790 --> 0:50:44.010
<v Speaker 1>of the second year. I'm still nervous with how often

0:50:44.050 --> 0:50:47.490
<v Speaker 1>they run him and how he runs, but he was effective.

0:50:49.540 --> 0:50:54.880
<v Speaker 1>He was careful with the ball. You know, he was responsible,

0:50:54.980 --> 0:50:59.440
<v Speaker 1>so to speak. So you've got to, you know, I

0:50:59.500 --> 0:51:05.640
<v Speaker 1>have to allow the games and the results, particularly with

0:51:05.739 --> 0:51:11.580
<v Speaker 1>young players, to really matter. And one game in, nothing

0:51:11.640 --> 0:51:18.100
<v Speaker 1>but high marks for Jackson Dart, who was efficient, accurate,

0:51:19.500 --> 0:51:27.759
<v Speaker 1>and good. I still feel like the media is a

0:51:27.800 --> 0:51:33.460
<v Speaker 1>little higher on Cam Scadaboo than his production demands. I

0:51:33.500 --> 0:51:40.219
<v Speaker 1>understand he's a hard-running white dude, and we love that. But,

0:51:40.420 --> 0:51:45.170
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's fine. Like, I don't totally, you know,

0:51:46.210 --> 0:51:49.650
<v Speaker 1>there is a little, and this is an old reference,

0:51:50.550 --> 0:51:54.290
<v Speaker 1>but there's a little Peyton Hillis and how, you know,

0:51:55.090 --> 0:51:57.770
<v Speaker 1>much people love him. Peyton Hillis to Monza was a

0:51:57.810 --> 0:52:02.940
<v Speaker 1>hard-running white running back for the Browns who was so

0:52:02.960 --> 0:52:08.610
<v Speaker 1>irrationally popular that he one year When they were doing

0:52:08.650 --> 0:52:10.490
<v Speaker 1>it via fan vote.

0:52:11.210 --> 0:52:11.930
<v Speaker 2>You want MVP?

0:52:12.170 --> 0:52:17.850
<v Speaker 1>One. No. Not MVP. No. The cover of Madden.

0:52:19.969 --> 0:52:23.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean. You would rather him get that than like

0:52:24.000 --> 0:52:25.439
<v Speaker 2>an actual accolade.

0:52:25.480 --> 0:52:29.219
<v Speaker 1>No, I understand that. But again, like when I tell

0:52:29.260 --> 0:52:32.640
<v Speaker 1>you he was on the cover of Madden. And when

0:52:32.680 --> 0:52:34.820
<v Speaker 1>I tell you it was because he had.

0:52:34.830 --> 0:52:36.109
<v Speaker 2>He was like the 80th best player in the league.

0:52:36.489 --> 0:52:38.379
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he had 11, listen, he had a really

0:52:38.400 --> 0:52:41.259
<v Speaker 1>good season. He had 1100 rushing yards and 11 touchdowns.

0:52:42.200 --> 0:52:45.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean the rest of his career, he had 11

0:52:45.440 --> 0:52:49.200
<v Speaker 1>or 1200 rushing yards and six touchdowns. Like it was

0:52:49.290 --> 0:52:54.870
<v Speaker 1>such an absurd thing that happened. Um, but so I

0:52:54.930 --> 0:52:57.589
<v Speaker 1>get that why this guy's a fan favorite. I think

0:52:57.610 --> 0:53:00.430
<v Speaker 1>he's fine. I don't think he's one of the 15

0:53:00.430 --> 0:53:02.680
<v Speaker 1>best running backs in the NFL, but the giants looked

0:53:02.719 --> 0:53:07.319
<v Speaker 1>really good. And yeah, We now see them against the

0:53:07.380 --> 0:53:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Rams in a game that will tell us a lot

0:53:11.600 --> 0:53:15.560
<v Speaker 1>about both of those teams. All right, let's go on

0:53:15.580 --> 0:53:16.219
<v Speaker 1>to the next game.

0:53:17.100 --> 0:53:19.340
<v Speaker 2>In the highest scoring week one game ever, the Bears

0:53:19.380 --> 0:53:23.980
<v Speaker 2>defeat the Panthers 59-37, and Ben Johnson loves it. Before

0:53:24.040 --> 0:53:26.049
<v Speaker 2>the season, he announced that he wants Chicago to have

0:53:26.070 --> 0:53:29.230
<v Speaker 2>the greatest offense ever, and then he doubled down postgame

0:53:29.270 --> 0:53:31.529
<v Speaker 2>saying that that will always be the goal. We want

0:53:31.550 --> 0:53:33.170
<v Speaker 2>to be the highest scoring. We want to have the

0:53:33.210 --> 0:53:35.540
<v Speaker 2>most wins, and we want to win Super Bowls. But

0:53:35.580 --> 0:53:36.380
<v Speaker 2>what about the defense?

0:53:37.920 --> 0:53:41.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so let's talk about the good first. I mean,

0:53:42.200 --> 0:53:48.509
<v Speaker 1>Caleb was utterly sensational. The Bears threw for 270 and

0:53:48.590 --> 0:53:52.290
<v Speaker 1>ran for 290. You just can't have a better offensive

0:53:52.350 --> 0:53:55.390
<v Speaker 1>day than they had. And they did it, DeMonte, with

0:53:55.430 --> 0:53:56.910
<v Speaker 1>the guy that we all thought was going to be

0:53:56.950 --> 0:54:01.109
<v Speaker 1>their number one receiving option, Colston Loveland. Zero catches. Can

0:54:01.130 --> 0:54:06.650
<v Speaker 1>you imagine if you're a fantasy football player? And you

0:54:06.690 --> 0:54:08.910
<v Speaker 1>have Colston Loveland spent a high draft pick on him.

0:54:08.950 --> 0:54:13.250
<v Speaker 1>The Bears scored 59 points. And you get zero points

0:54:13.270 --> 0:54:16.009
<v Speaker 1>out of it. You're like, what happened? It's like, oh,

0:54:16.030 --> 0:54:19.140
<v Speaker 1>he got hurt? Nope, he was out there the whole game.

0:54:20.340 --> 0:54:24.540
<v Speaker 1>So one of the reasons I'm so bullish on Caleb

0:54:24.760 --> 0:54:29.489
<v Speaker 1>is because the things he needed to improve year one

0:54:29.510 --> 0:54:32.690
<v Speaker 1>to year two, he did. He needed to improve the

0:54:32.770 --> 0:54:36.839
<v Speaker 1>terrible sack rate, And the pre-snap penalties. They cleaned that

0:54:36.880 --> 0:54:40.520
<v Speaker 1>up immediately with Ben. And this year he needs to improve.

0:54:40.640 --> 0:54:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Not dirting easy passes. And he looked to have improved that.

0:54:45.380 --> 0:54:49.960
<v Speaker 1>His best throws are still super elite. He ran. This was.

0:54:50.060 --> 0:54:53.400
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't believe this. DeMondsey. In Caleb's first two years

0:54:53.480 --> 0:54:58.180
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. He only had three rushing touchdowns. That

0:54:58.239 --> 0:55:02.069
<v Speaker 1>stunned me. I couldn't believe it. And then week one

0:55:02.090 --> 0:55:06.190
<v Speaker 1>he had two. So he is deadly with his legs,

0:55:06.370 --> 0:55:09.830
<v Speaker 1>and he used them. Those were dynamic runs. So the Bears'

0:55:09.930 --> 0:55:15.549
<v Speaker 1>offense looks amazing. That defense looks awful. Now it's possible

0:55:16.650 --> 0:55:18.650
<v Speaker 1>that I'm going to have to eat crow on years

0:55:18.710 --> 0:55:19.830
<v Speaker 1>of Bryce Young takes.

0:55:20.230 --> 0:55:21.450
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there we go.

0:55:21.489 --> 0:55:22.790
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, don't sleep with Carolina, man.

0:55:22.810 --> 0:55:25.109
<v Speaker 2>Listen, Bryce threw for 360, had a 110 rating, three touchdowns.

0:55:31.400 --> 0:55:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Um, so maybe, maybe it finally all clicked for Bryce.

0:55:36.120 --> 0:55:41.300
<v Speaker 1>My concern would be if I'm a bears fan of man,

0:55:41.590 --> 0:55:44.049
<v Speaker 1>if it didn't all just click for Bryce and he's

0:55:44.090 --> 0:55:48.850
<v Speaker 1>the same guy he's been, our defenses really bad, like

0:55:49.190 --> 0:55:55.450
<v Speaker 1>big trouble. Um, and so listen, I think the bears

0:55:55.469 --> 0:55:59.070
<v Speaker 1>are going to be really good. Let me back that up.

0:55:59.870 --> 0:56:03.510
<v Speaker 1>I think the Bears are going to be an awesome offense. Awesome.

0:56:04.850 --> 0:56:08.850
<v Speaker 1>But there's a chance they are the Bengals from two

0:56:08.870 --> 0:56:12.710
<v Speaker 1>years ago. Where they just can't, or the Cowboys from

0:56:12.750 --> 0:56:17.430
<v Speaker 1>last year. Where the defense undoes everything. Like, the defense

0:56:17.489 --> 0:56:20.150
<v Speaker 1>is so bad, it turns every offense they play into

0:56:20.190 --> 0:56:22.770
<v Speaker 1>a top five offense. But if that defense can just

0:56:22.830 --> 0:56:25.630
<v Speaker 1>be average, and maybe they are the team that trades

0:56:25.650 --> 0:56:29.049
<v Speaker 1>for Max Crosby, if the Raiders end up trading. then

0:56:29.070 --> 0:56:34.110
<v Speaker 1>they're a legit threat. I think this team with the

0:56:34.550 --> 0:56:37.259
<v Speaker 1>average defense is a legit threat to make the Super Bowl.

0:56:38.060 --> 0:56:39.700
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know if it's going to have an

0:56:39.760 --> 0:56:46.520
<v Speaker 1>average defense. And listen, I'm skeptical of Carolina's entire operation. Obviously,

0:56:47.020 --> 0:56:52.600
<v Speaker 1>their defense did not look good. But Bryce was great.

0:56:53.520 --> 0:56:56.100
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Coker was awesome. Tep McMillan was good.

0:56:56.160 --> 0:56:56.339
<v Speaker 2>Like.

0:56:58.290 --> 0:57:02.979
<v Speaker 1>So that is, the Panthers don't feel great after being 0-1,

0:57:03.200 --> 0:57:07.600
<v Speaker 1>but that whole division's 0-1. So, you know, it is

0:57:07.660 --> 0:57:09.859
<v Speaker 1>what it is, so to speak. All right, I know

0:57:09.880 --> 0:57:13.420
<v Speaker 1>you guys want to do Nick Wright, public defender.

0:57:14.600 --> 0:57:17.400
<v Speaker 2>So everybody with eyes can see that Caleb played amazingly,

0:57:17.880 --> 0:57:20.830
<v Speaker 2>but you'll be back in the blind. It is time

0:57:20.870 --> 0:57:25.100
<v Speaker 2>for the return for Nick Wright, public defender, counselor. Defend

0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:29.240
<v Speaker 2>PFF saying 19 quarterbacks are better than Caleb Williams.

0:57:32.100 --> 0:57:35.510
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I actually, you know what? I wrote a letter

0:57:35.550 --> 0:57:40.070
<v Speaker 1>to the bar and I'm resigning my position as public

0:57:40.110 --> 0:57:43.430
<v Speaker 1>defender on this one because I can't. But I do

0:57:43.470 --> 0:57:45.570
<v Speaker 1>want to discuss it. That's why I wanted you to

0:57:45.650 --> 0:57:48.200
<v Speaker 1>do it. But I'm not going to do that. If

0:57:48.240 --> 0:57:50.820
<v Speaker 1>you're new to the pod, the public defender bit is

0:57:50.860 --> 0:57:54.980
<v Speaker 1>where I prove to my sister and my father, both

0:57:55.040 --> 0:57:57.200
<v Speaker 1>of whom have law degrees, that I also could have

0:57:57.220 --> 0:57:59.900
<v Speaker 1>been an attorney. But I, you know, I'm doing the

0:57:59.960 --> 0:58:05.020
<v Speaker 1>far more important work of arguing about sports. And I

0:58:05.180 --> 0:58:08.680
<v Speaker 1>defend an indefensible position. But I don't want to do that.

0:58:09.120 --> 0:58:12.230
<v Speaker 1>I want to actually discuss the PFF thing, especially because

0:58:12.550 --> 0:58:18.090
<v Speaker 1>I'm now been alerted. PFF wrote an article. why Caleb Williams'

0:58:18.150 --> 0:58:24.010
<v Speaker 1>week one PFF grade doesn't match his box score. And

0:58:24.430 --> 0:58:27.070
<v Speaker 1>they included my tweet in the article. I'm reading this

0:58:27.090 --> 0:58:30.680
<v Speaker 1>for the first time. So I'm going to read from

0:58:30.700 --> 0:58:34.100
<v Speaker 1>their article, and we'll hear it together. At the center

0:58:34.120 --> 0:58:36.280
<v Speaker 1>of it all was quarterback Caleb Williams, who finished with

0:58:36.280 --> 0:58:39.080
<v Speaker 1>334 total yards, four touchdowns. He completed 21 of 29

0:58:39.080 --> 0:58:44.540
<v Speaker 1>passes for 269 yards, two scores, no interceptions. a 124

0:58:44.540 --> 0:58:48.880
<v Speaker 1>pass rating while adding 65 yards and two scores on

0:58:48.900 --> 0:58:54.390
<v Speaker 1>the ground. However, Williams earned just a 64 passing grade,

0:58:55.160 --> 0:58:58.790
<v Speaker 1>16th amongst the 30 quarterbacks who threw at least 13

0:58:58.790 --> 0:59:02.390
<v Speaker 1>passes before Monday night. On the surface, those numbers seem

0:59:02.430 --> 0:59:06.510
<v Speaker 1>almost impossible to reconcile. Four touchdowns, no interceptions, 59 points,

0:59:06.550 --> 0:59:09.830
<v Speaker 1>yet only a middling PFF grade. It raises a question

0:59:09.850 --> 0:59:13.300
<v Speaker 1>that gets asked annually. How can a quarterback produce at

0:59:13.360 --> 0:59:16.600
<v Speaker 1>that level without grading accordingly? They then include my tweet.

0:59:18.180 --> 0:59:20.880
<v Speaker 1>They then write, the answer lies in what PFF grades

0:59:20.920 --> 0:59:23.860
<v Speaker 1>are designed to measure. PFF grades were built to be

0:59:23.940 --> 0:59:27.680
<v Speaker 1>box score agnostic. and to capture everything the box score misses.

0:59:28.250 --> 0:59:30.730
<v Speaker 1>Every play is evaluated on what the player did with it,

0:59:30.890 --> 0:59:33.970
<v Speaker 1>independent of what the stat line says happened afterwards, and

0:59:34.010 --> 0:59:37.070
<v Speaker 1>that works in both directions. A quarterback can finish with

0:59:37.110 --> 0:59:40.060
<v Speaker 1>an underwhelming stat line and still grade well if the

0:59:40.140 --> 0:59:43.500
<v Speaker 1>reads were right, the throws were placed well and on time,

0:59:43.840 --> 0:59:46.380
<v Speaker 1>and whatever went wrong did so after the ball left

0:59:46.420 --> 0:59:50.030
<v Speaker 1>his hand. Yeah, we all get that. Another quarterback can

0:59:50.070 --> 0:59:52.770
<v Speaker 1>finish with a pristine stat line and grade more modestly

0:59:52.810 --> 0:59:55.190
<v Speaker 1>if he was asked to make routine throws all afternoon

0:59:55.550 --> 0:59:58.710
<v Speaker 1>and his receivers manufactured most of the production after the catch. Yes,

0:59:58.750 --> 1:00:01.000
<v Speaker 1>we understand that as well. What the grade measures is

1:00:01.040 --> 1:00:04.120
<v Speaker 1>the part of the play the quarterback actually controls. The read,

1:00:04.140 --> 1:00:06.700
<v Speaker 1>the decision, the throw. Not the result that lands in

1:00:06.720 --> 1:00:14.510
<v Speaker 1>the box score. They didn't explain their grading system more thoroughly,

1:00:15.050 --> 1:00:18.080
<v Speaker 1>and so now we'll get to the Caleb part. Williams

1:00:18.100 --> 1:00:21.190
<v Speaker 1>dropped back 40 times against Carolina. 11 of those dropbacks

1:00:21.290 --> 1:00:26.200
<v Speaker 1>earned positive grades, with 8 earning a play grade of.

1:00:26.150 --> 1:00:29.230
<v Speaker 1>5 and 3 earning 1.0. He didn't grade higher than

1:00:29.270 --> 1:00:31.960
<v Speaker 1>that on any play, though that's less a knock than

1:00:32.000 --> 1:00:34.920
<v Speaker 1>it might sound. Before Monday Night Football, one quarterback had

1:00:34.960 --> 1:00:37.360
<v Speaker 1>earned a grade better than 1.0 on any play.

1:00:37.520 --> 1:00:37.780
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

1:00:38.400 --> 1:00:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Another 23 dropbacks earned a 0 grade. Those were the

1:00:41.120 --> 1:00:46.010
<v Speaker 1>expected plays, routine plays. That leaves 6... Negatively graded plays,

1:00:46.130 --> 1:00:52.370
<v Speaker 1>five earned, negative 0.5, relatively minor mistakes. Okay, it keeps going.

1:00:53.070 --> 1:00:56.650
<v Speaker 1>This is a more boring article than I expected. They're

1:00:56.670 --> 1:01:00.150
<v Speaker 1>really explaining their grading system. Got it.

1:01:00.170 --> 1:01:04.270
<v Speaker 2>This PFF think they are, man. Or you guys.

1:01:04.690 --> 1:01:11.890
<v Speaker 1>That is the exact right point. I'm so glad you

1:01:11.910 --> 1:01:20.540
<v Speaker 1>got down to it. Because first of all, Pro Football Focus,

1:01:20.660 --> 1:01:23.900
<v Speaker 1>with respect, you don't know if it's the right read

1:01:23.940 --> 1:01:27.640
<v Speaker 1>or not. You're guessing. It's fine. You all have to

1:01:27.680 --> 1:01:28.440
<v Speaker 1>guess to a degree.

1:01:28.960 --> 1:01:29.419
<v Speaker 2>That's fine.

1:01:31.120 --> 1:01:37.830
<v Speaker 1>And I do understand and appreciate trying to have a

1:01:37.890 --> 1:01:45.370
<v Speaker 1>statistical evaluation that is independent of the box score. I

1:01:45.510 --> 1:01:50.560
<v Speaker 1>get wanting to say, hey, we just talked about Josh

1:01:50.720 --> 1:01:55.860
<v Speaker 1>Allen's potential game-losing interception. That's that bad of a decision,

1:01:55.900 --> 1:01:58.550
<v Speaker 1>whether Lassiter comes down with it or not. We need

1:01:58.570 --> 1:02:02.910
<v Speaker 1>to have a way to evaluate that. I agree with that, okay?

1:02:07.250 --> 1:02:15.060
<v Speaker 1>Where some of these independent evaluators get a little high

1:02:15.360 --> 1:02:24.050
<v Speaker 1>on their own supply is not recognizing that there needs

1:02:24.150 --> 1:02:28.830
<v Speaker 1>to be on any of this because it is not,

1:02:28.990 --> 1:02:33.210
<v Speaker 1>it's not math and it's not an exact science. And

1:02:33.230 --> 1:02:37.010
<v Speaker 1>your formula that you're talking about is just a fucking

1:02:37.110 --> 1:02:44.240
<v Speaker 1>guy given grades. It's not a baseball player's war, which

1:02:44.360 --> 1:02:49.460
<v Speaker 1>is just we're putting the numbers into a formula. The

1:02:49.520 --> 1:02:55.650
<v Speaker 1>numbers are non-debated facts and then spitting it out. There

1:02:55.750 --> 1:02:59.030
<v Speaker 1>is a lot of art to what you're calling science.

1:03:02.430 --> 1:03:10.640
<v Speaker 1>And what I think they consistently fail to recognize is

1:03:12.000 --> 1:03:18.820
<v Speaker 1>there needs to be a common sense factor to, hold

1:03:18.940 --> 1:03:27.240
<v Speaker 1>on a second, guys. I understand that our grader went

1:03:27.280 --> 1:03:32.459
<v Speaker 1>through every play and charted every play and came away

1:03:32.500 --> 1:03:38.320
<v Speaker 1>with this grade. But does it make sense for us

1:03:39.840 --> 1:03:45.150
<v Speaker 1>to put out into the world Is it accurate? Is

1:03:45.270 --> 1:03:51.610
<v Speaker 1>it actually what we're trying to say? That in week one,

1:03:52.590 --> 1:04:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Caleb Williams' play garnered a 62.5 grade, while Sam Darnold,

1:04:05.900 --> 1:04:09.610
<v Speaker 1>who threw three passes and then pulled his butt muscle,

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<v Speaker 1>garnered a 62.3. We good with that? Hey guys, we're

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<v Speaker 1>giving Caleb a 62.5 and Jaden Daniels, who was objectively

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<v Speaker 1>awful for three quarters, we're giving him a 73.5. We

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<v Speaker 1>want to run this through someone else's eyeballs for a second?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, Aaron Rodgers just played football like he's a

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<v Speaker 1>42-year-old man who spent the days leading up to the

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<v Speaker 1>game talking about his fiancée wanting to sleep with other people.

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<v Speaker 1>We're throwing him an 80. Do we think that accurately

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<v Speaker 1>represents the football that was played this weekend? Well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what our graders say.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like, what are you watching?

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<v Speaker 1>I And the arrogance with which they're like, oh, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are looking at the box score. Well, a little.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, again, I will now go to their exact

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<v Speaker 1>grading of Caleb. They said that in this game, 12

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<v Speaker 1>of his 30 plays were positive scores. I'm sorry, that's incorrect. Sorry. That,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to misrepresent because he played way more

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<v Speaker 1>than 30 plays. My apologies. Of the 30 quarterbacks this weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>Caleb had the 12th most positive plays. And the 13th

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<v Speaker 1>most negative plays. What? That he and that he was

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<v Speaker 1>seventh worst this weekend in accurate throws. He was ninth

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<v Speaker 1>worst in perfectly placed throws. He was seventh worst in

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<v Speaker 1>catchable but inaccurate. You're Hold on, let me just read

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<v Speaker 1>this one last thing, the last paragraph. None of this

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<v Speaker 1>is to say Williams played poorly, and his grade isn't

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<v Speaker 1>saying that either. I don't know, bro. Then maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>guys have a messaging issue. But there's 32, as of Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>30 quarterbacks had played. You had him 20th. He produced

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<v Speaker 1>two big-time throws. Good for a 6.5% big-time throw rate.

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<v Speaker 1>How dare you, folks? You Neanderthals questioning our science? What

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<v Speaker 1>are you, flat earthers? Not believing that we have defined,

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<v Speaker 1>beyond a shadow of a doubt, big-time throw. We've taken

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<v Speaker 1>phrases that guys say to each other, hammered. On Heineken's

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<v Speaker 1>at a bar on Sunday watching Red Zone. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>big time throw. And we've defined it beyond a shadow

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<v Speaker 1>of a doubt. Get the fuck out of here. I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Williams made high-level plays, largely kept the ball out of

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<v Speaker 1>harm's way, helped lead one of the league's most productive offenses.

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<v Speaker 1>He also missed on roughly a quarter of his throws

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<v Speaker 1>and had one particularly costly mistake that never appeared in

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<v Speaker 1>the interception column. A 64 passing grade reflects that entire

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<v Speaker 1>body of work, not simply the result. The box score

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<v Speaker 1>tells you what happened. The grade is designed to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you how it happened. Well, you know what? Then consider

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<v Speaker 1>that the grade unsuccessful. Because it didn't tell me how

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<v Speaker 1>anything happened. Most weeks, these two stories will look familiar.

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<v Speaker 1>When they don't, as was the case with Williams in

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<v Speaker 1>week one, the play-by-play evaluation helps explain why. Or, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>all makes a lot of sense. Occam's razor. The simplest

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<v Speaker 1>solution is often the correct one. Or are you guys

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<v Speaker 1>just wrong?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what? On the board as well.

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<v Speaker 2>They're making stuff confusing.

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<v Speaker 1>100%.

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<v Speaker 2>Alright.

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<v Speaker 1>I said we'd get to every team. We've gotten to

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<v Speaker 1>like eight. So we're going to really have to fire

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<v Speaker 1>through these. But first, you ever notice how everything keeps

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<v Speaker 1>30 gigs, customers may experience lower speeds, as long as

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<v Speaker 1>they remain active on the Boost Unlimited plan. All right, Demondze,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do this as quick as we can.

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Some embarrassing losses. The Chargers lost to Arizona while being

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<v Speaker 2>nearly double-digit favorites, and Jacoby Brissett starting at quarterback. Green

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<v Speaker 2>Bay allowed 29 unanswered points to Carson Wentz, who a

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<v Speaker 2>double-digit lead, and the Rams and their Australia travel fiasco.

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<v Speaker 2>Who had the most embarrassing loss of the week?

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<v Speaker 1>The most embarrassing loss is the Packers because of the

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<v Speaker 1>way it happened. The most telling loss is the Chargers

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<v Speaker 1>because of the issues they have. And the most concerning

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<v Speaker 1>big picture stuff is the Rams. So I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>do this as quick as we can because I do

1:10:18.100 --> 1:10:20.600
<v Speaker 1>want to get to every game. And Demondsey's got to

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<v Speaker 1>get to work. And I actually... Demondsey's got to go

1:10:23.439 --> 1:10:27.980
<v Speaker 1>work on Cowherd Show. I have to go on Cowherd Show. So, like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're really... We're up against it. Green Bay collapsing against

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<v Speaker 1>Carson Wentz just can't happen. And Matt LaFleur's seat's got

1:10:37.229 --> 1:10:40.710
<v Speaker 1>to feel a little warm. They keep blowing these double-digit leads.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't win a game without Micah Parsons. It's highly concerning.

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<v Speaker 1>And allowing 27 consecutive points.

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<v Speaker 1>To, was it 27? No, 29. They were up 22-10.

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<v Speaker 1>29 consecutive points in a divisional game that you had

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<v Speaker 1>in hand and that you knocked Kyler Murray out of early. Disastrous. Arizona, listen, Jacoby,

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<v Speaker 1>more than every once in a while, Jacoby Brissett's going

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<v Speaker 1>to show up and be like, I'm a starting quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>in this league. Now, so often also he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>show up and look like the slowest player in the

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<v Speaker 1>entire NFL and just be throwing up picks. But Jacoby

1:11:20.439 --> 1:11:23.540
<v Speaker 1>can look solid, and he's confident, and he's a pro.

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Herbert, on the other hand, once that punt got blocked,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, you're trailing the Cardinals 16-14 before the

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<v Speaker 1>punt got blocked. No, it's not even his face. It's

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<v Speaker 1>that these are how the three possessions ended. On 1st

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<v Speaker 1>and 10, a bomb to show off that beautiful cannon

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<v Speaker 1>of his to a guy with two defenders around him

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<v Speaker 1>who is 5'8, who had two catches last year. Probably

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<v Speaker 1>not the decision you want to make. Next possession on

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<v Speaker 1>4th down, throws short of the sticks. And the next

1:12:05.520 --> 1:12:10.460
<v Speaker 1>possession on 4th down, throws short of the sticks. The Chargers,

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<v Speaker 1>who play the Raiders next week, DeMondse, who looked good, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. And then after that, DeMondse, here's the Chargers

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<v Speaker 1>next seven weeks at Buffalo, at Seattle, home for Denver,

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<v Speaker 1>at the Chiefs. at the Rams, home for the Texans,

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<v Speaker 1>at the Ravens. Good night. Good luck. Curious to see

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<v Speaker 1>who the fall guy is this year. My guess is

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to blame Harbaugh for the guard rotation. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to say, oh my God, that Tyler Biotish injury

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<v Speaker 1>just couldn't overcome. And then they're going to zero in on,

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<v Speaker 1>can Justin Herbert get some wide receivers? Forget the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that The only reason he didn't have Ladd-McConkie in the

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<v Speaker 1>second half of that game was because he threw Ladd-McConkie

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<v Speaker 1>the ultimate hospital ball and got the poor guy's chest

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<v Speaker 1>caved in. Niners-Rams, the Niners looked awesome. Purdy played great.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't even overuse McCaffrey. But.

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<v Speaker 1>Miles Garrett missed a ton of camp. Everyone ignored it

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<v Speaker 1>except for Greg Rosenthal. Shout out Greg Rosenthal and NFL Daily.

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<v Speaker 1>Because they're like, ah, Stafford missed camp last year. Greg

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<v Speaker 1>seemed concerned. Miles Garrett didn't have the single worst game

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<v Speaker 1>of his career and is now having knee surgery. Jalen Watson,

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about him earlier, one of their big offseason acquisitions,

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<v Speaker 1>got cooked. They're playing Trent McDuffie out of position and

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Stafford looked old. I'm not saying you panic with

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<v Speaker 1>the Rams, but The reason I said I thought they

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<v Speaker 1>were a touch overvalued, now all of a sudden they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my God, we've got to have Aaron Donald. They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think they were even ever getting Aaron Donald a

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<v Speaker 1>couple months ago, and they were the Super Bowl favorites.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's go to the blowouts.

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<v Speaker 2>Your Jags and my Ravens beat up on some bad

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<v Speaker 2>teams this week. We don't know if they're bad yet,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess. Trevor had four touchdowns, and Lamar and Derrick

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<v Speaker 2>Henry looked amazing. How much are you reading into these games?

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, we... We do know the Browns are bad. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to be cheeky there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to read you a tweet from quarterback coach,

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe Deshaun Watson, either confidant or coach or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>Quincy Avery. Quincy Avery... who much like the folks at PFF,

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<v Speaker 1>just understand the game at a higher level than us Rubes,

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<v Speaker 1>tweets yesterday afternoon. I do understand people not liking Deshaun, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>I also don't think you guys watched the same tape.

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<v Speaker 1>I also saw things he definitely needed to do better,

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<v Speaker 1>but the way you guys are talking about it makes

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<v Speaker 1>it obvious you didn't watch it with an honest perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, Quincy? I'm going to be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 1>We must not have watched the same tape. Correct. If

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<v Speaker 1>you came away from that game and you're like, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what? Some good, some bad from Deshaun. The opening

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<v Speaker 1>drive of their season, he throws a pick. He then

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<v Speaker 1>tries to throw another one. He fumbles the ball and

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<v Speaker 1>then made a few nice plays once they were down

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<v Speaker 1>like 34 to nothing. Get out of here. What are

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<v Speaker 1>we doing? It was just god-awful quarterback play while the

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<v Speaker 1>game was in the balance. That's the tape I saw. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe this is another Berenstain Bears situation. It's like the fumbles.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe Quincy Avery has access to the tape, the good

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<v Speaker 1>Deshaun Watson tape, and where a fumble's a fumble. I

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<v Speaker 1>have access to awful Deshaun Watson tape and everything I

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<v Speaker 1>thought was a fumble is not a fumble. What do

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<v Speaker 1>I know? Trevor, on the other hand, looked great. And

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<v Speaker 1>that touchdown pass to the back of the end zone

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<v Speaker 1>with four guys around him, oh my. Look for Mahomes

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<v Speaker 1>Mountain today on First Things First. Trevor going to be

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<v Speaker 1>up there. DeMonte, your Ravens looked amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Minter, I really like him. I liked him already.

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<v Speaker 1>Lamar looks spry, willing to run.

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<v Speaker 3>Lamar.

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<v Speaker 2>Eric and defense wasn't rolling over.

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Henry is just one of the best athletes of

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<v Speaker 1>my lifetime. Period, point blank. Like the guy was one

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<v Speaker 1>of those, maybe the most dominant high school running back ever.

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<v Speaker 1>A great college running back comes into the NFL and

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<v Speaker 1>just crushes everyone. And it's still going.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like a conventional running back either. Like they're

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<v Speaker 2>not normally built like he is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's more like from the seventies and eighties.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So it is, he is kind of old school and

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<v Speaker 1>like how giant he is. He's still taller than the

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<v Speaker 1>guys from the seventies and eighties, but they did, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's so good, man. The rate, listen, I picked the

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens to be the one seed for a reason. Lamar's

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<v Speaker 1>got to prove it to me in the playoffs. Now's

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<v Speaker 1>not the time to talk about that. They look scary

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<v Speaker 1>and really good. And we've talked a lot about these

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<v Speaker 1>teams that have brutal schedules. Ravens, not one of them. Ravens,

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<v Speaker 1>next five. Home for the Saints, in Rio for the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>home for the Titans, at the Falcons, at the Browns,

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<v Speaker 1>before they have to go Bills, Bengals, Jags. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they've got 5-1 at worst, probably 6-0 written all over them.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's do the quick hitters. Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati defeats Tampa Bay 33-27.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, Bengals fans, you can call me a hater all

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<v Speaker 1>you want. I am not yet a believer that your

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<v Speaker 1>defense is fixed. I thought Tampa Bay moved the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>and Baker just had some of the most clownish fumbles

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever seen. It was maddening. Does this sound like

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who had Tampa Bay plus three and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>New Orleans plus seven and a half, Jags minus eight

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<v Speaker 1>and a half and the Chiefs money line all tied together.

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<v Speaker 1>It sure does. But I'm still very upset. Baker, not

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<v Speaker 1>a great first game for Baker with the contract. Bengals, though,

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<v Speaker 1>they get off to a 1-0 start despite Burrow not

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<v Speaker 1>playing great. I thought he lost it for him with

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<v Speaker 1>the pick six. So it's a good win, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still skeptical of the defense. We'll see. Four sacks, four

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<v Speaker 1>forced fumbles. Really productive. We'll see if it's sustainable. Tampa,

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to kick themselves on that one. Detroit, New Orleans,

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<v Speaker 1>Demond's eight. Detroit is going to be, until they get

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<v Speaker 1>their safeties back, Josh Allen might throw for 500 yards

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<v Speaker 1>if he wants to. Tyler Shuck just threw for 410.

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<v Speaker 1>Their pass defense is going to be a problem. We

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<v Speaker 1>already touched on this game because of the fumble rule thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And anybody arguing that the Saints should have kicked the

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<v Speaker 1>extra point in overtime and just, you can't kick an

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<v Speaker 1>extra point with 90 seconds left in overtime and just

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<v Speaker 1>accept a tie in week one. You have to go

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<v Speaker 1>for it. All right, next game.

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<v Speaker 2>Philly defeats Washington 24-22.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a little underwhelmed by Philly. I thought the

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<v Speaker 1>way they were imposing their will defensively early, they'd be

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<v Speaker 1>able to do it the whole game. Landon Dickerson to

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<v Speaker 1>the IR, that's a big injury for them. But Saquon

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<v Speaker 1>had the one big run. Jalen, to his credit, made

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<v Speaker 1>three huge plays in three big spots. Jaden started really,

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<v Speaker 1>really poorly, like 6 of 18 or something crazy. Got,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hot late. They blew the two-point conversion. That

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<v Speaker 1>would have been a terrible loss for Philly. Instead, they

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<v Speaker 1>escape with a win. It is what it is. It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like a Last couple years, kind of an

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<v Speaker 1>ugly Eagles game, but they end up winning. Next.

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<v Speaker 2>Pittsburgh defeats Atlanta, 2013.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if I'm a Steelers fan, I'm not overwhelmed by

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<v Speaker 1>that win. T.J. Watt had to save the game against

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper Rush. That's an insane pick-six.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, how he ended up where he was, that that

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<v Speaker 2>ended up a touchdown, was crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, he's such a great player. Such a great, great player.

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<v Speaker 1>I could spend an hour talking about why Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 1>would do that podcast the day before the season on

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<v Speaker 1>his teammates podcast. I just, it just, it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>such a baffling decision that I can't, I can't even

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<v Speaker 1>wrap my mind around it. You had to beat that

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<v Speaker 1>Falcons team with the quarterback situation. The Falcons, I think

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<v Speaker 1>could be a live team. That defense looked better than

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<v Speaker 1>we thought it would. If they get panics back soon, Next.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, we got the Jets defeating the Titans 23-10.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember when people were like, you know what? It's not

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<v Speaker 1>fair to Cam Ward. He's the number one pick and

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<v Speaker 1>no one talks about him. No one talked about him

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<v Speaker 1>going into the draft. No one's talking about him. Hey, man.

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<v Speaker 1>You know who's really, really happy that no one talks

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<v Speaker 1>about Cam Ward right now? Cam Ward. He is hurtling

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<v Speaker 1>towards like.

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<v Speaker 2>Some biggest bust, like number, like number one pick.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I it's early. So I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>say that, but that's what I was going to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he, to Marcus Russell's like looking around, I it's

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<v Speaker 1>not great. And he's got it. Like that was that

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<v Speaker 1>offense had no life whatsoever. Shout out to the jets

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<v Speaker 1>for getting the win. And then lastly, the Raiders beat

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<v Speaker 1>the dolphins 27, 13. Good win for the Raiders. I

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<v Speaker 1>will admit to the audience, I was not locked in

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<v Speaker 1>to Jets, Titans, or Raiders, Dolphins. I thought we did great.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you to Blue Duck. Thank you to Volume. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you to Demondze. Thank you to Polymarket. Thank you to

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<v Speaker 1>to join us. Thank you to everybody who's watching live.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm late for work. Demondze's late for work. We will

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<v Speaker 1>see you guys on Thursday. What's right.