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Speaker 1: What is up?

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Speaker 2: Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode of the Mets

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Speaker 2: Up Podcast. We got more Mets spring training baseball. We

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Speaker 2: got pitching to talk about. Noel McClain's thrown absolute chd

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Speaker 2: Joonahtong another pitch. We're seeing a lot of our pitching prospects.

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Speaker 2: We're seeing some bats from some hitting prospects. We're getting

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Speaker 2: Francisco app bat, Francis Gualvarez at Bat's a lot of

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Speaker 2: things going on.

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Speaker 2: That's our obligatory Ryan Lambert conversation every single time WBC preview.

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Speaker 1: Where do you want to start? James?

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Speaker 3: I mean again, I like what we did last time,

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Speaker 3: the quick spring shay and run around. The people like

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Speaker 3: it too. Just kind of all the interesting things we've

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Speaker 3: seen over the past week. Just kind of word vomit

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Speaker 3: yap at you guys. I think the most interesting thing

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Speaker 3: at least for me by far was probably Nolan McLain somehow,

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Speaker 3: like just the fact that I'm still to be this

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Speaker 3: intrigued and it's interested by him, and for him to

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Speaker 3: come out with new toys again kind of like in

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Speaker 3: spring training. Is I just I try sometimes to conceptualize

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Speaker 3: and think about his ceiling and it kind of makes

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Speaker 3: my head spin and makes my head hurt. I gotta

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Speaker 3: lay down closed my eyes because I don't even want

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Speaker 3: to let my mind go to those places.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was in Vegas for the weekend and when

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Speaker 2: McLean pitched, and you texted me while it was going on,

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Speaker 2: and we have the game on because we're betting on

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Speaker 2: everything while we're there, anything possible, love betting spring training games.

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Speaker 2: And you see Noel McClain start throwing ninety eight and

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Speaker 2: you text me about it, and I'm like, I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you strow ninety eight, he might just win a

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Speaker 2: side young.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if he throws ninety eight, he could just

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Speaker 3: be Paul Skiens. I didn't say that. I didn't say that,

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Speaker 3: but he didn't say it.

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Speaker 1: He was quiet.

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Speaker 3: Just to give a sense, and that start by McLain

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Speaker 3: spring his last spring training game, which is almost like

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Speaker 3: a week ago.

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Speaker 1: At this point, it's a lot of big blur.

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Speaker 3: Of the last few days, he threw thirty fastballs, fastballs

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Speaker 3: and sinkers. Eighteen of those thirty were at least ninety

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Speaker 3: six miles per hour. And just to give a sense

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Speaker 3: of why that's a big deal, because last year he

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Speaker 3: threw three hundred four combined fastballs and sinkers and only

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Speaker 3: eighty of them or at least ninety six miles per hour.

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Speaker 3: So in this poet to have more than half of

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Speaker 3: him to be over ninety six miles per hour and

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Speaker 3: last year way under a third way like it was,

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Speaker 3: that's a stark, stark, stark change for Nolan maclan.

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Speaker 2: It's a huge difference, and it really can be the

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Speaker 2: difference maker for him being a very good frontline starter

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Speaker 2: to just being like an ace, one of the best

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Speaker 2: so ridiculously.

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Speaker 1: Good out of control.

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Speaker 2: If that fastball and that sinker sitting ninety eight, like

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Speaker 2: we're we're looking at it like is this happening?

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Speaker 3: And then also like if the sweeper is eighty six

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Speaker 3: now instead of mayby four, and then that the color

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Speaker 3: And like even the fact that the sinker, especially for

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Speaker 3: It was four innings, so in terms of what the

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Speaker 3: he was so efficient that the four innings happened I

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Speaker 3: think in under sixty five pitches. So that's probably the

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Speaker 3: line we're looking at. And he's ramping up. He's getting

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Speaker 3: hot for WBC, we know that. But just the fact

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Speaker 3: a sinker like it is, it's getting to the point

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Speaker 3: where again it's kind of foolish and it's easy to

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Speaker 3: forget that last year was his first year fully pitching

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Speaker 3: just it's it was kind of amazing think about like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you also mentioned a little WBC stuff because

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Speaker 2: he's going to be pitching I think against Italy, which

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Speaker 2: I think is the fourth game of the pools, and

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Speaker 2: then the next time that he would.

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Speaker 1: Pitch would be the championship.

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Speaker 2: Mark Throws said that if they make it to the finals,

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Speaker 2: which tm USA should relatively easily, Noel McLain would be

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Speaker 2: the pitcher for Team USA in the World Baseball Classic Finals,

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Speaker 2: which is is kind of crazy for a guy who

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Speaker 2: I thought was originally going to be coming out of

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Speaker 3: I mean, why not though, like he is one of

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Speaker 3: the best baseball and the funny, the scary part of

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Speaker 3: the battle all of this actually is that his first

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Speaker 3: experienced experiencing further gooke symptoms, which I do not want

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Speaker 3: that as far away from all this as possible. That's

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Speaker 3: a very serious thing for a baseball player, can't have

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Speaker 3: that on. But it's just to see him in that

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Speaker 3: I mean you also, I don't think we could see

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Speaker 3: I think that game against the Astro is one of

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Speaker 3: the ones that wasn't broadcast because we've had not a

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Speaker 3: actually on television available for us to watch, which sucks

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Speaker 3: about this part of the spring training. But still just

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Speaker 3: to see that, getting that data on him and seeing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we also got to talk about Jonah Tong too.

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Speaker 2: If we're gonna talk about the data and what we're seeing,

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Speaker 2: Jonah Tong just releasing new pitches it seems like every

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Speaker 2: single game now, which is really really cool because again

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Speaker 2: we know that the fastball change we're going to be great,

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Speaker 2: that moves glove side. We saw the cutter, we're seeing

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Speaker 3: Definitely is when we talked about that with Tong too,

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Speaker 3: coming as over the top as he does. How difficult

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Speaker 3: to slither throwing a ball like you have to throw

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Speaker 3: a slyther is so the fact that he can get

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Speaker 3: the depth on it. But I do want to shout

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Speaker 3: on the color we saw last week last time we

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Speaker 3: was nice to see him spam it, but didn't really

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Speaker 3: a lot, but it got crushed from home run by

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Speaker 3: Nolan Gorman and it didn't really move horizontally to the

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Speaker 1: This time he took a little bit off it.

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Speaker 3: It did actually get to the other side, It did

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Speaker 3: and a half last time, it sat ninety one and

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Speaker 3: a half. Last time I had fifteen inches of induced

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Speaker 3: vertical break. This time I had eight inches on average

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Speaker 3: of induce vertical break. This time it had four inches

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Speaker 3: of horizontal break. Last time it didn't even actually break horizontally.

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Speaker 3: It stayed, It stayed one It stayed one inch to

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Speaker 3: his arm side. And this time it did have a

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Speaker 3: he got more swings and missus on it. It wasn't

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Speaker 3: I don't think it actually was put in play in

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Speaker 3: this game against Nicaragua on Tuesday. So it's just again

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Speaker 3: we've heard that he has a lot of things that

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Speaker 3: he's ready to experiment with. So it's nice that he's

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Speaker 3: using this time in spring train and be like, Here'm

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Speaker 3: minna spam this one. And also he threw he threw

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Speaker 3: twenty of them today and he threw fifty four total pitches.

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Speaker 3: So again it's like I'm gonna throw the shit out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just exciting that you can see that these

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Speaker 2: Mets pitchers, these young guys now working with Willard and

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Speaker 2: everybody in the organization just seems like there is a

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Speaker 2: but like to continue to get better. Last year was

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Speaker 2: be where we end up his pitchers. I love seeing

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Speaker 2: tong Tinger with new pitches. We joke about it all

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Speaker 2: the time, how he's one of the he was one

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Speaker 2: just able to try new pitches in the middle of

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Speaker 3: And this is what you're supposed to do with this time,

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Speaker 3: Like these games do not count, Like I was getting

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Speaker 3: replies to my tweet about it today being like, dude,

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Speaker 3: he still got blown up. This guy sucks, and it's

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Speaker 3: like this not the results do not matter right now,

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Speaker 3: Like this is the second time he's ever thrown a

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Speaker 3: it, it looked this good. And it's clear that that is

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Speaker 3: the goal is to get something that just simply moves left.

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Speaker 3: And finally he got something that moves left today and

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Speaker 3: he still had that firmer curveball death ball, like we

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Speaker 3: said before it got registered today is a knuckle curve.

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Speaker 3: So I'd be curious if we get comments from him

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Speaker 3: or from Willer, they're from Mendoza about what the intent

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Speaker 3: of that pitch actually was. And at the same time,

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Speaker 3: it's like his command is still all over the place.

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Speaker 3: Is there's a sharpness that's lacking. And the fact that

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Speaker 3: we saw a sinker is kind of cool too there

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Speaker 3: because we've kind of lamented the fact that Tong sometimes

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Speaker 3: gets forced to throw his fastball low because that's kind

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Speaker 3: of the only way to tunnel it off these other

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Speaker 3: offspeed pitches secondary's breaking balls that he has. We'd love

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Speaker 3: to live in a world where you can get that

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Speaker 3: pitch up in the zone. So maybe then the sinker

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Speaker 3: can be the thing that is is low in the zone,

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Speaker 3: and the bridge slide there kind of works the way

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Speaker 3: where you can keep that fastball up. There's a lot

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Speaker 3: of ways for this all to work. Maybe it's hard

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Speaker 3: to see it right now, but just he's he's getting

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Speaker 3: him him self closer to a spot where we feel

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Speaker 3: like it can it can be done.

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Speaker 1: He can actually take that big leap.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which would be really really nice for the Mets

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Speaker 2: moving forward, just being able to get the Jonah Tong

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Speaker 2: more production out of him would.

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Speaker 2: But again, great problem to have, not something I'm really

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Speaker 1: You as well, being like, got a lot of starting pictures?

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Speaker 3: The fact that Code is motivated and he's said to

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Speaker 2: so many starters, like I want to use him.

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Speaker 1: I want to use them properly. It can work.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes there also could be a world where like again

442
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Speaker 3: like sometimes the back of the rotations on six man

443
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Speaker 3: in the front of the rotations on a five man true.

444
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Speaker 2: Yeah, like Freddy brawlter should be pitching every fifth day. Yeah,

445
00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,640
Speaker 2: Noel McLain should be pitching every fifth day, Seanan I

446
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Speaker 2: and CODEI saying it might need an extra day.

447
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Speaker 1: That's okay.

448
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Speaker 3: Also, especially because like McLain is workload wise kind of

449
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Speaker 3: shockingly ahead of where most pitchers are with his little

450
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Speaker 3: pitching experience in the major leagues, like the fact that

451
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Speaker 3: last year he got himself up to one hundred sixty

452
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Speaker 3: five in one hundred and sixty innings.

453
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Speaker 1: Massive, So like that's like you should be ready.

454
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Speaker 3: For again to do that again, get up to one seven,

455
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Speaker 3: to get up one ady, be a horse if your

456
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Speaker 3: body allows. He's going to be throwing more heart harder

457
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Speaker 3: nings a the WBC right now. So I could see

458
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Speaker 3: his work little being curtailed a bit in April. But

459
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Speaker 3: there's it's just it's a lot of Mendos's plate right

460
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Speaker 3: now to try and work out how this rotation will

461
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Speaker 3: be worked out, and it's got his work cut out

462
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Speaker 3: from a bit.

463
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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially because like we're you even seeing the guys

464
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Speaker 2: behind the seven that we mentioned where it's like we

465
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Speaker 2: saw Wendinger again and he looks really good again, Like

466
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Speaker 2: just a prospect that seems like he's gonna pan out

467
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Speaker 2: for the Mets, which is it's pretty awesome again considering

468
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Speaker 2: he was not a highly doubted prospect by any means.

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Speaker 3: No, it's fun to have a guy like Wendinger and

470
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Speaker 3: tong right now next to each other. And this we

471
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Speaker 3: kind of felt this way about Sprote before sprot was traded.

472
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Speaker 3: Where Tongue, anything can happen. Yes, Tom could be one

473
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Speaker 3: of the ten best pitchers in the league, or Tom

474
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Speaker 3: could be a reliever. And like if he heard this happen,

475
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't really be shocked. Wendinger seems like a very

476
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Speaker 3: low variance guy, super low. This guy's gonna be a

477
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Speaker 3: three four star there in perpetuity, like no matter what.

478
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Speaker 3: Like that last Springs start, he really lost command of

479
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Speaker 3: his breaking stuff. He couldn't really locate the slither of

480
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Speaker 3: the curve. But like, I'm really impressed by his fastball quality.

481
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Speaker 3: I didn't think his forcing would be this kud actually,

482
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Speaker 3: and the sinker is really nice. The splitty is very reliable.

483
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Speaker 3: Just having those three pitches any day of the week,

484
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Speaker 3: you can get through most lines two times.

485
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Speaker 2: He easily can get through lines that you could. You

486
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Speaker 2: could be five innings every single time you go out there.

487
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Speaker 1: Like, I really am starting to wonder.

488
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Speaker 3: I mean cause again, I still have a lot of

489
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Speaker 3: faith in the long term of Tongue, but it just

490
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Speaker 3: seems like there's we know, there's a bit more of

491
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Speaker 3: a winding road to get him to where he needs

492
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Speaker 3: to be this season. Like, I'm wondering if the way

493
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Speaker 3: things work out, if Wenninger gets that spot star before Tongue.

494
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Speaker 1: Does, probably not right because he's on the forty man.

495
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Speaker 3: No, he's not on the forty menu, right, that's probably

496
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Speaker 3: what about it. And we still have Christian Scott and

497
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Speaker 3: we still have it. Really I want to see little

498
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Speaker 3: more Ristian Scott and waiting to see a Scott.

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Speaker 1: A lot of the guys we got questions about we're

500
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Speaker 1: not seeing.

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Speaker 3: No, Yeah, Code, I please, cod, I give me some

502
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Speaker 3: stack cast data. We let me look at the braves.

503
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Speaker 3: Just day with with Spencer Shreid, I think the media

504
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Speaker 3: firestorm that's come from possibly allegedly turning off the railar

505
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Speaker 3: gun for his live VP and then him coming on

506
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Speaker 3: the mound and they're throwing ninety two, it's like, maybe

507
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Speaker 3: that's don't want to deal with that. And again it's

508
00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,840
Speaker 3: like seen homes or the curveball. Again, like a lot

509
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Speaker 3: of these things are just fun. It should we have

510
00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,800
Speaker 3: a weird it's just so many guys and I don't

511
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Speaker 3: know what they're all gonna do.

512
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the offense a little bit, because we

513
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Speaker 2: have a position battle right field.

514
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Speaker 1: Right it's between.

515
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Speaker 2: Carson benchj Melendez and Mike Talkman, which is a kind

516
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Speaker 2: of hilarious.

517
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Speaker 1: Sentence, little words vomit out loud.

518
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Speaker 2: Imagine telling him that fan in November that was gonna

519
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Speaker 2: be who's fighting for right field? I think I think

520
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Speaker 2: some people get their listening to might crash their car.

521
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Speaker 1: But like I mean, I don't think benjer is going

522
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Speaker 1: to get it out of opening day.

523
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Speaker 2: Every single day that passes. I think it's less and

524
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Speaker 2: less likely, and it's not really.

525
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Speaker 1: Because of anything that he's doing.

526
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Speaker 2: Dokman and Melendez are playing really good ball, shockingly good

527
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Speaker 2: bar right now.

528
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Speaker 3: It's amazing to watch these I mean, especially Melendez. I've

529
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Speaker 3: been just especially oppressed that he's one really able to

530
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Speaker 3: handle the outfield well well enough, well enough.

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Speaker 1: I wonder because could this be an eye test thing? Though?

532
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Speaker 1: Could this be an eye test? Could we be eye tested?

533
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Speaker 1: Right now? Oh? I could one hundred.

534
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Speaker 3: Percent be going through my confirmation bias just because I

535
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Speaker 3: simply like like the guy and want him to pan

536
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Speaker 3: out to seeing all this happen kind of makes sense

537
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Speaker 3: in my brain. Please all so he's hitting the piss

538
00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 3: out of a ball right now, like all this stuff

539
00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,440
Speaker 3: happening together. I'm like, I'm getting I'm getting his stack

540
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,359
Speaker 3: cast data right now, just for the spring. I guys

541
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Speaker 3: percentiles loading up for me right now?

542
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Speaker 1: Where is it results, I'll get talkman's while you're doing it. Yeah,

543
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Speaker 1: you might as because it's I'm just I don't know.

544
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Speaker 1: I kind of like watching m Jim Belendez play some ball.

545
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Speaker 1: To be fair again, a little peak behind the curtain.

546
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Speaker 2: James had been texting me all off season about m

547
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Speaker 2: j Belendez that he's like, I think he could catch

548
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Speaker 2: on with a team, like there might be something there,

549
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Speaker 2: And then when the Mets signed him, we couldn't even

550
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Speaker 2: do the classic David surge is listening because we definitely

551
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Speaker 2: didn't mention it on this podcast.

552
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Speaker 3: I think I mentioned it briefly, but I mean also

553
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Speaker 3: think about Melende is that all signs point to him

554
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Speaker 3: also starting a triple A because he has an option

555
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Speaker 3: act he's on a split contract if something just has

556
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Speaker 3: to happen. But he's taken eleven played appearances, the strikeout

557
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Speaker 3: rates under eighteen percent, he's that w his heart hit

558
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Speaker 3: rate not twenty two percent, actually play low, but he's

559
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Speaker 3: lifting his hard hit balls.

560
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Speaker 1: The barrel rates high.

561
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Speaker 3: Again, this is not an indicative sample of really anything

562
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Speaker 3: at all, but just the fact that he's not swinging

563
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Speaker 3: and missing a ton and he's really taking advantage of

564
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Speaker 3: the contact that he's making is like, this is he

565
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Speaker 3: looks like a capable major league bench bat who could

566
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Speaker 3: be a strong side platoon run into one like that's

567
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Speaker 3: a nice thing to have.

568
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and with talkman on the other side. So really

569
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Speaker 2: like he's gonna give you completely. He's gonna be so

570
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Speaker 2: fine out in right field. He's gonna be so fine

571
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Speaker 2: on the bass paths. He's gonna get on base, he

572
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 2: might pull one down the line for a home run.

573
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Speaker 2: It's a pretty low like pretty medium floor, low ceiling guy,

574
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Speaker 2: which is probably exactly what you want when you have

575
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Speaker 2: one of the best prospects in baseball in the wing

576
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Speaker 2: waiting to get called up and not wanting to put

577
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Speaker 2: the most pressure in the world on him. But every

578
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Speaker 2: time bench is on the field, he just does something good,

579
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Speaker 2: Like he's a good ball player.

580
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Speaker 1: I like the U.

581
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Speaker 3: Compton's young Christian Yelis last time. I think that's incredibly

582
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Speaker 3: fair for the type of player profiles to be. Like,

583
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Speaker 3: I would be shocked if even in even if he

584
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Speaker 3: plays in one hundred and sixty games, if he were

585
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Speaker 3: to pop twenty home runs even I wouldn't be surprised,

586
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Speaker 3: yes or next. I just think that he's going to

587
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,439
Speaker 3: take good at bats. He's going to be a plus

588
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,360
Speaker 3: athlete on the field, he's going to steel base, He's

589
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Speaker 3: going to play good defense. It's cannid for an arm

590
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Speaker 3: like this is this an exciting position about?

591
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Speaker 1: Like this was spring training is all about?

592
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Speaker 2: I mean it took Yelich. I'm looking at his thing

593
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Speaker 2: right now. How old is benj exactly?

594
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Speaker 3: He's turning twenty three. He just turned twenty three in January.

595
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Speaker 2: He's okay, Yeah, I mean in his twenty four year

596
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:07,880
Speaker 2: old season that I was the first time Christian Yellow

597
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Speaker 2: chit more than twenty home more, first time he hit

598
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Speaker 2: double digit home runs. He happened to hit twenty one,

599
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Speaker 2: but it didn take him about three hundred and thirty games.

600
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Speaker 1: To hit twenty home runs.

601
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Speaker 2: It actually took him exactly three hundred and thirty two

602
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Speaker 2: games to hit the first twenty home runs of his career. Like,

603
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Speaker 2: I don't think I'm not wishing this on bench, but

604
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Speaker 2: like if you told me there was a world where

605
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Speaker 2: like he played a full season and had like eleven

606
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Speaker 2: or twelve home runs this year, but like a three

607
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Speaker 2: fifty on base, I would totally buy that.

608
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Speaker 3: A three fifty on base. Christ If he's a three

609
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 3: fifty on base this year, I'm going I'm gonna buy

610
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Speaker 3: his jersey hundred.

611
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Speaker 1: Where do you think he is on base? Would be?

612
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Speaker 1: Because he three twenty five? Like it's you just don't think.

613
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Speaker 2: He's gonna get on base like that. I feel like

614
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Speaker 2: his played discipline's great.

615
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Speaker 1: I just I think of this too.

616
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Speaker 3: But I think as a rookie your first time through league,

617
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Speaker 3: if you have a three fifty on base your first

618
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Speaker 3: time through the league, like you're that's like almost Roman Anthony.

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Speaker 1: Christian Yellich had three seventy. Christian Yelli's won MVP. Ye

620
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Speaker 1: Christian Eelich is awesome twenty six. You know, Christian just

621
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Speaker 1: twenty six ten years ago.

622
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Speaker 3: Damn Chris Christian Elede's injuries kind of to bring. He's

623
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Speaker 3: like low key to the model David Right where injuries

624
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 3: super derailed. We could have been an easy Hall of Famer.

625
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Speaker 1: They're so good those two years with the Brewers, the

626
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Speaker 1: first two. Yeah, I'm hoping.

627
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Speaker 3: I'm hoping for three thirty on base percentage form christ

628
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Speaker 3: and Benje give me Carson bench at three fifty. I mean,

629
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Speaker 3: if you want to set the line at three thirty two,

630
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 3: that could be fun over under for us. I don't

631
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 3: want to root against the guy, but I just think

632
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 3: statistically that would be improbable. Also, just the way the

633
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 3: Restless lineup is coming together, Like I'm going hardcourt at

634
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,239
Speaker 3: the fancy baseball content right now, taking in a lot

635
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 3: of other people's great fantasy work that they're doing. Everyone's

636
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 3: talking about Jorge Polanco and fancy baseball or people can't

637
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 3: people can't stop talking about that guy.

638
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: The fact that he's heading forth on this team.

639
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 3: He's gonna have second base and first base eligibility like

640
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 3: him and Luis Robert are brickisheing up draft wars at

641
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Speaker 3: this moment?

642
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean, you.

643
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 2: Know who else should be going up there to Francisco

644
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 2: Alvabrez should be flying up boards too, because it looks

645
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 2: like he's gonna hit towards the middle of the lineup.

646
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: There's gonna be so many guys on base.

647
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 2: This is something that's really nice about this lineup's opposed

648
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 2: to the last couple of years, that even the guys

649
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Speaker 2: towards the bottom are.

650
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Speaker 1: Just gonna have the ability to make some noise. You something.

651
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even if it's Talkman or benj or Melendez

652
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 2: hitting ninth in this order, that's phenomenal. Like Talkman, there's

653
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 2: a chance our nine hitter for the first month and

654
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Speaker 2: a half as like a three forty three fifty on

655
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Speaker 2: base percentage. Or if you just put my boy Carson

656
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Speaker 2: Benjill having for the whole.

657
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Speaker 1: Year, same thing.

658
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Speaker 3: I think the highlight of the last week of Mets

659
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Speaker 3: baseball was the Francisco Alvarez abs challenge.

660
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Speaker 1: Yes with it as soon as a bad or he

661
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: even calls a shrike. He's like gild be that.

662
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Speaker 3: One of the rioters I think was Laura Albani says,

663
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 3: I think Carson Ben. I think Francis Gulvers almost gave

664
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Speaker 3: himself concussion trying to challenge with the ball and strike

665
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 3: and if you guys are lifers like day ones of

666
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Speaker 3: the Mets Stuff podcast, Francis galv Is one of the

667
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 3: first interviews with the player we ever did, and that

668
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 3: was in Brooklyn with the Cyclones five years ago, twenty

669
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 3: twenty one. Oh god, let's talk about time flying from marketized.

670
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 3: We just both turned thirty. But he talked about I

671
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 3: think one of his asksmen me and you asked him

672
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 3: about his exposure to the ABS system and how he

673
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 3: used it to his advantage in the field at the plate,

674
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Speaker 3: and he gets kind of he kind of waxed poietic

675
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Speaker 3: about his own understanding of the strike zone, the fact

676
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 3: that he was using ABS when he was nineteen eighteen

677
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,239
Speaker 3: years old in the Florida the State League, and now

678
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 3: he was able to take this to the pros. Like

679
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 3: the guys like that. The younger players might be better

680
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 3: with the ABS in some situations than the older players,

681
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 3: and it might huge advantage. There might be a weird

682
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 3: power dynamic in some clubhouses, get about who uses those

683
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 3: challenges because a lot of these young players literally have

684
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 3: far more experience with this than the old guys.

685
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Speaker 2: I mean, the hierarchy clearly goes Juan Soto challenge. He

686
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 2: should have every right to challenge every single pitch that

687
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 2: ever comes. I just, I truly believe that he knows

688
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 2: the strikes some better than anybody in baseball. Probably right now,

689
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 2: he's number one, Lindor's got to be number two.

690
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 1: Who would you put at three? I definitely am not

691
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 1: putting high.

692
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 3: But I don't think Bobshet gets any until Memorial Day.

693
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 3: He's got to prove it first.

694
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 1: And also he's taking war hacks up there. He doesn't

695
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: give a shit if that gets called the ball he's swinging. Bobachet.

696
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 3: I can't wait through for Bobachet this year. But I

697
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 3: think Alvarez is the guy who should get a lot

698
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 3: of these challenges. His sense of the zone and sensation

699
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 3: on this team.

700
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 2: And we saw towards the end of the year too,

701
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 2: like the patients and the walk rate and everything flying

702
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 2: up the list like it's it's just nice to see

703
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 2: that our young young catcher. If it feels like this

704
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: is the year. As long as he stays healthy, I

705
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 2: think we're going to start to like get get a little,

706
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 2: get a little excited.

707
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 3: Don't tell anybody that because it's not it's not going

708
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 3: around enough yet. But that's I think that's when it

709
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 3: hither becomes really mature and we could take that next step.

710
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: Is when you're when you're able to be selective in

711
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 3: the zone. Yes, you're not afraid about hitting behind it

712
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 3: the cat, You're not afraid about managing that bat.

713
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: With two strikes.

714
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Speaker 3: That's the whole secret thing, right, Yeah, that's that secret

715
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 3: select selective rest. And that's also why Julie Rodriguez still

716
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 3: can't even take that next step, even though he's one

717
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 3: of the five best players in the league.

718
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: He just got in terms of pure talent. Yes, and

719
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 1: then Louis orbar sixth Yes. And now let's see a

720
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Speaker 1: couple of other things.

721
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Speaker 3: I want to mention our boy Christopher Squerro, future top

722
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 3: hundred prospects, couple of moonshots, guaranteed future.

723
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Speaker 1: Top one hundred prospects.

724
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: It's again like I think a lot of the prospect

725
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: people are already hip to him. Whenever MLB pipeline decides

726
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 2: to be hip to him, you'll find out because he

727
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 2: just there's not a lot of prospects that do it.

728
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 2: Our our Bronx, Dalton Varshow, he's a fun little player.

729
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 3: And that's going to be the whole thing that actually

730
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 3: could make him a top hundred prospects that if he

731
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 3: gets game reps in center field this year and he's

732
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 3: been better at left than he ever was at first,

733
00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 3: and he still isn't even bad behind the plate. He

734
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 3: hasn't fucking cannon and he's just he's he's a beast

735
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 3: and he's fast as hell. Like if he if they

736
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 3: can put him in center field and he shows any

737
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 3: level of instinct, like that's how you actually do this,

738
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 3: because like the raw power's crazy, like almost seventy five

739
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 3: mile proud of bat speed today's home run to Tuesday

740
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 3: one hundred and ten four to twenty feet, Like that's

741
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 3: just to be able to do that is like take

742
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 3: this to the next level, my guy, please.

743
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 2: Friend of the Mess of Up podcast, it means sounds

744
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 2: like sounds like everybody's getting a bump right now.

745
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 3: And the one thing I want to mention before we

746
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 3: move on a little bit is there was a weird

747
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 3: stuff about Jonah Tong today that there was a contract

748
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 3: that was had to be renewed. I think with the

749
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 3: exact wordthing that was used, and I think it's because

750
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 3: Jonah Tong last year ended on the major league roster,

751
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 3: but I think the intentions that he starts next year

752
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 3: on the minor league. So I think he's allowed to

753
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 3: basically ask for more than the minimum, but the team

754
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 3: has no right reason to give.

755
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: Him any more than the minimum.

756
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 3: So I think I think the team gave him like

757
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 3: an extra thousand dollars.

758
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 1: I mean, you probably should just ask for it.

759
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 3: Right at that point, the word from Will Sam is

760
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 3: the Mets are renewing top prospect Jonah Honk contracts after

761
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 3: they were unable to come to an agreement with him

762
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 3: on a twenty twenty sixth salary. So he's a pre

763
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 3: arbitration player, and I think you're just simply allowed to

764
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 3: add like an agent's allowed to ask for more because

765
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 3: he was on the major league roster. I don't know

766
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 3: if it's next because you're in the major league roster

767
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 3: or not. I think you get more leverage if you

768
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 3: were in the major league roster, gotcha. But also you

769
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,479
Speaker 3: don't really have any leverage because you're pre arbitration players.

770
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 3: Just just a shitty part of the business. But that

771
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 3: the fact that headline went around just wanted to.

772
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: Wells got one thousand more than the minimum. Yeah.

773
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 3: Possibly, I don't think we even know that for sure.

774
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 3: I think that's just usually the way that that structures out.

775
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 3: I just wanted to if anyone was nervous by anything.

776
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 3: You just want to quell any concern.

777
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: Should we media marvel? Yeah? I got a few media marvels.

778
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: All right, hit us with your favorite one, James, all.

779
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 3: Right, definitely the favorite, because the most Mets related one.

780
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 3: There was a crazy firestorm of rumors. I think it

781
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 3: was Saturday morning, Friday afternoon whenever it was that a

782
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 3: Fredi Perrault's extension was reportedly imminent and that was not true.

783
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 3: With all this is why you guys have to check

784
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 3: your timelines and mute and block your aggregators.

785
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

786
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: I mean there's just some aggregators out there, and I'm

787
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: pretty sure they even listened to this.

788
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: It might even like our podcast, but man, I think

789
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: they do.

790
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 3: I don't blame the people that run these accounts because

791
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 3: they're instructed to do the player hate the game one hundred.

792
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 3: But it was a situation where there was reference in

793
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 3: uh Ken Rosenthal article about the headline was Freddy Praulter

794
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 3: already seems at home with the Mets.

795
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: Will it be a long term one?

796
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 3: And in that article, Ken referenced a contract projection that

797
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: Tim Britton gave like a month ago, that we talked

798
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 3: about a lot in the show, and we were talking

799
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 3: about as possible Freddy Prawl's extension, and then the aggregators said, update,

800
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 3: Freddy Prault is projected to sign the contract that Tim

801
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 3: Britton projected them for based on similar contracts that were signed.

802
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 3: Like the fact that the word projected was used projected

803
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 3: to sign. Yes, that that's a horrible choice of words.

804
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 3: Even if you guys are aggregators, you gotta pick the

805
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 3: words a little more carefully than that.

806
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we got tagged into a bunch of

807
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: the tweets like the extension.

808
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: You guys are gonna talk about it. It's like this is

809
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: this is not real even real news right now. This

810
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: was a projection. Doesn't mean that Freddy pelt is signing,

811
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: doesn't even mean that the Mets offered it.

812
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 3: So it's like a I think Freddie want I think

813
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 3: he objectively, it seems like he wants to sign every

814
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 3: time he gets asked about it, very open. He has

815
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 3: a grin on his face that's the size of the

816
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 3: whole thing, and he says no comment, but will Sam you.

817
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: If your owner was the richest owner in sports.

818
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 3: But then there's word that Freddy wants a very long

819
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 3: term deal, even with lower aav which seems like it's

820
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 3: against the Mets philosophy. Possibly, so we'll see. We'll see

821
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 3: how this works out. But Will has said no serious

822
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 3: discussions have taken place.

823
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I.

824
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: Think that makes sense, like it's it's very rare for

825
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: these things to happen. But also at the same time,

826
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if still by opening day they

827
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 2: do get something done.

828
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 3: Especial because it seems like he really wants one specifically, Yes,

829
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 3: he wants to make it happen, so maybe I'm sure.

830
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 3: I'm sure some conversation will happen some point before the

831
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 3: season begins.

832
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: Can we do a quick media marvel just jerks and

833
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 2: profar idiot stupid?

834
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what jerk's I mean, just twice

835
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 3: as ever God, when Stranger's career is ever right, Yeah.

836
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 2: Former number one prospect just stunk, then randomly got.

837
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 3: Good after bad shoulder injuries that killed his power, found

838
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 3: actually a place in the league was beside the real

839
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 3: contract for real life, real money.

840
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's gonna blow all of it.

841
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,719
Speaker 2: And he's gonna completely blow all of it because he's

842
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: gotten popped for peds twice in a calendar year. It's

843
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: you didn't learn once, it's a mistake twice, it's on purpose.

844
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 3: Did you see the tweet that the last five players

845
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 3: to get suspended for peds all came from either the

846
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: Phillies or the Braves?

847
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: Really? What a shame? Interesting I think.

848
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 3: I think the Braves were both Jerk's profile, but still

849
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: doesn't change the fact.

850
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: Doesn't change the fact.

851
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 3: Jose Alvarado, Jose Alvarado, Johann Rojas.

852
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: Forgot about Johann Rojas, Max Kepler, Dick forgot about Max

853
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 2: Keupler too.

854
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: It's the worst batch of steroids ever.

855
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: Geez yeah, I mean not Dee Gordon, another NLS guy.

856
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 3: These are nothing like the the what was the the

857
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 3: Tony Tony Bosh who was the guy who liked the

858
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 3: when Melchie and Bartolo at popped for their steroids and

859
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 3: they lasted like a decade.

860
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: All the guys stayed forever. I forget his name now.

861
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: I think you're right though about Bosh something like that.

862
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:55,719
Speaker 1: I think Tony or that might have been the eight

863
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: rod one.

864
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: Maybe that was the a roh one. You got Boshi Abalco.

865
00:31:58,640 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 2: He got all these different names.

866
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, those are the best batchister eros ever. These

867
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 3: are the worst Bacheterois ever. So that was crazy. Also,

868
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if anyone out there caught chain gate.

869
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was just about to bring up the

870
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: Dan Clark tweet. Yeah, I mean Dan Clark.

871
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 3: If you guys still follow Dan Clark on follow him,

872
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 3: it's like talk about like the worst account on baseball twether.

873
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's bad.

874
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 3: Max Clark a very what's the word for Max Clark.

875
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 3: He's a bit of a flashy prospect.

876
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: I'd say, uh yeah, probably flamebuoyance is not the right word.

877
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: But I want to say, man, what is that word.

878
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: He's got a swag, he's swaggy.

879
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 3: It's flashy. He's not flashy, he is flashy. He misplayed

880
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 3: the fly ball in spring training, which is okay. I

881
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 3: think he's twenty one years old. He's the biggest guys.

882
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 3: He's going to be a great player. Dan Clark goes

883
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 3: Max Clark is a clown. There's all the criticism he gets. Well,

884
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 3: first of all, last name bros. Yeah, you can't be

885
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 3: mean to your last name. Brows crime highly tabbed but

886
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 3: still twenty one, barely above mediocre in the miners. In

887
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 3: parentheses eight ten ops barely above mediocre.

888
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: That's really good.

889
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 3: Don't age he's a great player, shows up to camp

890
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 3: looking like a fool with that much bling around his neck.

891
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 3: Can't field for shit, routine, flyball dumb he's Max Clark

892
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 3: is widely renowned as one of the best defensive prospects

893
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 3: Minor League baseball.

894
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 2: R And Aaron Judge can't field dropped the fly ball,

895
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 2: can't field dog shit in the outfield.

896
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: How many chains was you wearing? Oh? None? Forgot about that.

897
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: She actually probably is wearing change. Does Aaron Judge wear chains?

898
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 3: It probably wears a chain. You gotta wear a chain.

899
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: The van a chain. No, you got to you gotta

900
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: do wear something.

901
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: And then also just to kind of talk about the Yankees,

902
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 2: and then also parlay this into the Yankees accounts being

903
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: absolutely locked into met spring training, which is just, I mean,

904
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 2: not looking good for the Yankee accounts right now for

905
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 2: the whole Like you know, oh, you're the second team

906
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 2: in New York's Like you watch a lot of our

907
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 2: games since because we have a lot of your guys

908
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: former players.

909
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 3: I understand that, but geez, get over it. Yeah, well,

910
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: Mark's saying this is because again there's a week ago.

911
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 3: Now we've done an episode for you guys for a week,

912
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 3: just making sure we get a lot of informations. We

913
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 3: can give you guys up that feels full and holday

914
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 3: because love the night. Nice forty five minute episode we do.

915
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 3: We strive to give it to you. But Devin Williams's

916
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 3: first pitch in spring training as I met JJ Weatherhol

917
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 3: another great prospect out there. You know you know it

918
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 3: doesn't wear chains, JJ weather Hole. It's a baseball rat.

919
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 3: I like JJ Wetherhall shot.

920
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: If you're a baby about how you like him, now,

921
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: I'd like him as a ballplayer.

922
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 3: I don't think he has the top five prospect ceiling

923
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 3: that a lot of people do, but I think he's

924
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 3: like a surefire good Major leaguer for the next ten years.

925
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: So I do. I like JJ Weatherhall.

926
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 3: I think that sometimes he gets over ranked in the

927
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 3: prospect rankings. But if you're a baseball prospect that came

928
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 3: from Western PA, like good for you and you're you're

929
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 3: a dog. But first pitch of Devin Williams inspring training

930
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 3: as a met Jji weatherhol puts it over the fence.

931
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 3: I saw twenty five Yankee Counts tweet it. I'm just

932
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 3: like guy, So this isn't a big deal at all, Like, hey,

933
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 3: come on, focus up.

934
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: The aggregator games out of control. That's bad.

935
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 3: He's because fucking Eli got people paid for Twitter and

936
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 3: me again, people get your money. But like, damn, it

937
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 3: really puts a bad sweets out there because of it.

938
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: And then last shout out to the aggregators.

939
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 2: Of course, Ryan Lambert eggs it just gets mentioned now

940
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: every single time he comes on the n and we're

941
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 2: the first fucking people that talked about it.

942
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: AFO and and we never get any of the credit.

943
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: Now, I'm not gonna play uh, you know, beus hour

944
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 2: puss here, But it is very very funny how this

945
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 2: information had been known four years if you were locked

946
00:34:59,280 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: into mets up.

947
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: But again, he wasn't. He wasn't a big deal.

948
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,479
Speaker 3: Yet when he comes out pumping one hundred in the spring,

949
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 3: that's when becomes a big deal. That's when the Bake

950
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 3: national story goes around. It all makes sense. But we

951
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 3: know that missus Lambert. She knows that she knows where,

952
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 3: she knows that we were first her And now missus

953
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 3: Ewing has been liking my tweets about AJ, So I

954
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 3: love that I get the Mets prospects moms liking my

955
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 3: tweets cause I'm gonna I will support your sons.

956
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 2: If you guys listen to this, imagine you see a nice,

957
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 2: a nice young man like you James tweeting well well

958
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 2: about their son, just working hard.

959
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

960
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 3: We all help each other out there. Those are two

961
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 3: great young man a je E Ewing and Ryan Lambert.

962
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 3: Medium marvel into a WBC preview.

963
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start off by saying that man Aaron Judges'

964
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 2: speech was horrendous, and I don't think it's his fault.

965
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 2: I think he was forced to do it. I think

966
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 2: that he was coerced into being the captain. And he added,

967
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 2: they give this speech because I think Major League Baseball

968
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 2: realized how poor, how bad they fucked up Mike Trout

969
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: and how nobody knows anything about the guy and he

970
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 2: has no personality. So I think they forced Aaron Judge

971
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: to do this bad, bad speech. Some people are just

972
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: not motivators like that Aaron Judges, arguably the best player

973
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 2: on the planet. Gotta be one of the worst pump

974
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 2: up speeches I've ever seen.

975
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially in the team where you do have some

976
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 3: ra ra guys like Schwarbur and Harper.

977
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: How is it not Harper? It should just be Harper

978
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: who's given that speech?

979
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 3: I mean, yeh, but you can't. You can't make Harper

980
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 3: the captain when Aaron Judges on the team, like Aaron

981
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 3: Judge so much better than just speaks what I'm saying. Yeah,

982
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 3: all these guys can speak. And again that's fair.

983
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: And of course we're gonna be talking about the World

984
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 2: Baseball Classic over here on met stuff.

985
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: We love it, one of our favorites.

986
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: All of our World Baseball Classic coverage is brought to

987
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: you by our friends at Fox one, which is live

988
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: stream all your Fox favorites together in one place, including

989
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 2: all WBC games over the next few weeks, and after

990
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 2: that the best MLB action all season, from the World

991
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: Baseball Classic through the World Series to the World Cup,

992
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 2: to NASCAR and IndyCar With Fox one, you get it

993
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 2: all live. Start your seven day free trial today. Offers

994
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 2: are subject to change. Download Fox one today and stream

995
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 2: the World Baseball Classic live March sixth through the fourteenth.

996
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 2: Go to foxwe dot com for complete terms and conditions

997
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: Fox One's streaming. Now, let's talk a little bit more

998
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: about the World Baseball Classic. We said Noel McLain's gonna

999
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: be pitching hopefully in two of the games, which is

1000
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: kind of crazy.

1001
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: Clay Holmes on this roster, Mets all of the World

1002
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: Baseball Classic in this one all over.

1003
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 3: Mark Vanto's a Team nic ar Agua, and Nick Marbido

1004
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 3: is on Team Italy. Robert Stock on Team Israel. Robert

1005
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 3: Stock's like nasty in the spring Sto.

1006
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: It's really good.

1007
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 3: He might be closing for Team Israel, but it's kind

1008
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 3: of fun that we get to watch a lot of

1009
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:14,479
Speaker 3: our guys.

1010
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 1: I know it does.

1011
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 3: Stink for Francisco Lindor that he's not able to play

1012
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 3: for Team Porto Rico. We know how much he loves

1013
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 3: this tournament and his country, and he's hurt anyway. So again,

1014
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 3: like the insurance thing kind of got washed away by that.

1015
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 3: But I know a lot of the Mets fans have

1016
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 3: an unfavorable view of the World Baseball Classic because of

1017
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 3: how it affected us personally last time. But if you're

1018
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 3: just simply a fan of high quality baseball and baseball

1019
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 3: played crisply with passion, it's really not that this is

1020
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 3: the closest thing we have too besides the Majorleague Baseball playoffs.

1021
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so much fun. The atmosphere is unbelievable.

1022
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: Again, if you were able to get yourself out to

1023
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 2: a game, if you can get to Florida, if you

1024
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: can get to Houston whatever.

1025
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: Like I know, tickets are expensive, not everyone can afford.

1026
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 2: That, but if you have the ability to get to

1027
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: a game, I truly think you will appreciate it as

1028
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 2: a baseball fanish. Just it's so much fun. The baseball's

1029
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 2: really good, the competition's fun. It's one of the few

1030
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 2: times ever in baseball where the national team play feels

1031
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 2: like it matters to the actual fan. Where like the

1032
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 2: Gold Cup or the Gold Medal games in the Olympics,

1033
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 2: the Premiere twelve, like, it's a lot of amateurs playing,

1034
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 2: and I don't think many people around Major League Baseball

1035
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 2: that our fans are particularly locked into those. But the

1036
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: World Baseball Classic is something that like, I really do

1037
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 2: hope team wins. I'm gonna be cheering big time for

1038
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: them and even like for the other guys on the team,

1039
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: like Wan Sota. We saw Dominican Republic play the Tigers

1040
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: say and just absolutely, for lack of a better term,

1041
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 2: fuck Baseball's up.

1042
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: Like it's it's so fun.

1043
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 2: You see Wan Soda dancing with Fernando Tatis, Shooter, that's

1044
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 2: about as close as I want him to that guy

1045
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: right now. We know the needles are sticky, but like

1046
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: I mean, just having fun.

1047
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: It's pure baseball. It's it's exciting stuff.

1048
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 3: We heard Gary and Murph talking about last week where

1049
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 3: Gary definitely an old head and a guess very personal

1050
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 3: about the Mets. He was talking about how he's not

1051
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 3: something that he really really likes that much. I think

1052
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 3: Mike Francesa in terms of the old Heads, has the

1053
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 3: greatest quote ever for how little he cares about the

1054
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 3: World Baseball Classic.

1055
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:05,919
Speaker 1: This is why he's number one.

1056
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 3: He said, if the World Baseball Classic was happening in

1057
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 3: his backyard, he would close the Blinds Grace quote one

1058
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 3: of great boats of all time.

1059
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: But anything not even just sports.

1060
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 2: You know what's funny too, is like I feel like

1061
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 2: a lot of the old heads have like such like

1062
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: American pride a lot of the times.

1063
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 1: But then they times, but then they hate.

1064
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: The tournament where there's like a reason to be prideful

1065
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 2: as an American baseball fan, because a lot of people

1066
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 2: think it's kind of a manufactured piece of pride, like

1067
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 2: it doesn't have the same like trying to say, quas

1068
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 2: the Olympics, the World Cup, someone's.

1069
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: Rooting for the Mets, like I love I think.

1070
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 3: I mean also, and what Murphy came back at Gary with,

1071
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 3: he was just like, you don't get to see Chris

1072
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 3: baseball like this this time of year.

1073
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: No, like the fact that we're going to see this

1074
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: high level stuff.

1075
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 3: And again, like Mark was saying, here, here's some of

1076
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 3: the eggs of loss that we saw from team to

1077
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 3: making Republicans the Tigers on Tuesday night one eighteen and

1078
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 3: a half, one thirteen, one twelve and a half, one

1079
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 3: ten point three, one ten one o nine one. Oh wait,

1080
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 3: I'm also just mentioned right now only Junior Caminaro and

1081
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: so don't can tell mar Day basically and one August

1082
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 3: in your Mirr mixed in there. But it's just it's

1083
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 3: these guys play, they play so hard for this, and

1084
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 3: I think something else that's also killed a little bit

1085
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 3: of the fervor from the American side of the World

1086
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 3: Baseball Classic is that at the beginning when these rosters

1087
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 3: were announced, people saw schoobl and Skiings, they were like,

1088
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 3: oh my God, like deep, we're going to get the

1089
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 3: boys there. And now we know that Schoogle is only

1090
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 3: going to pitch one game against Great Britain.

1091
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: Which is not fair, it's not right.

1092
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 3: And then the fact that again like Nolan McLain would

1093
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 3: be the guy who starts the championship, like Schemes would

1094
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 3: get a second appearance in the semifinals if the USA

1095
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 3: were to get there.

1096
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 1: But Schooble had a great quarter about this too.

1097
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 3: He's just like, we know we have to manage ourselves

1098
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 3: the injuries wise, and we know if we go super

1099
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 3: hard this time of the year, that's how you open

1100
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 3: yourself up to a potential injury. And these teams are

1101
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 3: so on top of these guys. There's very, very very

1102
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 3: strict rules and regiments for every single guy is going

1103
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 3: to this tournament. The players know that, the teams know that,

1104
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 3: the agents know that. Schooble said, like I wish so

1105
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 3: they at some point could move this to the middle

1106
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 3: of the season because then we'd.

1107
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: Be able to actually let it rip.

1108
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 3: But we're gonna see a lot of two, three, four

1109
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 3: inning appearances and it's just going to be a lot

1110
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 3: of fun.

1111
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: It's so much fun. I love the World Baseball Class

1112
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: so much.

1113
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 2: And again, as it's going on, we'll make sure that

1114
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: we keep you guys looped in on everything.

1115
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: With the Mets.

1116
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 2: In the World Baseball Classic, we talk forty five minutes

1117
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 2: about nonsense. Well, we'll scoot in some World Baseball Classic

1118
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: when it's timely.

1119
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 3: Do you have a game this week that you're excited for?

1120
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: You say, great, Britain, come on.

1121
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: Thursday night, Baby on the Line, Revolutionary Warm rematch.

1122
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: Come on.

1123
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 3: They're not excited for the Czech Republic first Korea five

1124
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 3: am on Thursday.

1125
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I actually think it's more Czech Republic Australia.

1126
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: Aren't they playing on at ten pm on Wednesday?

1127
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: Oh?

1128
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, ten pm Wednesday? No, that's a yeah, Taiwan Australia.

1129
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 2: Oh Taiwan Australia, My bad, not Wednesday, like yes, yeah,

1130
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: And the Czech Republic's opener is five am against.

1131
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: Who they play two games in one day? The checks,

1132
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,439
Speaker 1: uh maybe because of the Japanese time.

1133
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have five am Thursday and then we have

1134
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 3: ten pm on Thursday.

1135
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: Check for its Australia. That's crazy.

1136
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 3: Oh my god, shout out the checks. These guys are

1137
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 3: baseball hounds over there.

1138
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: Apparently, I mean, shout out the checks.

1139
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 3: USA first game is Friday, this Friday, eight pm on

1140
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 3: five against Brazil.

1141
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: So we had those.

1142
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 3: We had the USA Britain game wrong. USA Great Britain

1143
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 3: is Saturday night eight pm.

1144
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: Sounds like we're not watching it Thursday. Yeah, no, we

1145
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 2: could watch it Saturday, could watch it Saturday. That's definitely

1146
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 2: still the play.

1147
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 3: Probably try Skoople for Vance Warley. Asof oh God, Great Britain.

1148
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 2: They shouldn't even pitch fans Wharley. They should save him

1149
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: for a team that they might be able to beat.

1150
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 3: Give them before we get rid of this, to start

1151
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 3: like closing down, you guys, give a give a roster,

1152
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 3: each of us, give a roster that we think is better.

1153
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: Than people realize. Chinese type, Okay, Taiwan.

1154
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm saying Chinese type for this, but

1155
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: obviously they're Taiwan.

1156
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: Fuck the commies, but.

1157
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 2: Taiwan, Chinese, Taipe whatever you want to call them. They

1158
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: won the Premiere twelve. That's like the big tournament that

1159
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 2: goes on like for the world outside the World Baseball Classic,

1160
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 2: and for them to win it, I think they beat Japan.

1161
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: And Korea on the way there, and those.

1162
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: Japan and Korea both put out like very serious teams.

1163
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: Obviously the major leaguers weren't playing in it, but there's

1164
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: a lot of good young Chinese type Taiwanese players that.

1165
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: I think people are gonna get hit. They have a picture.

1166
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 2: I think his name is like Joe she Shoe and

1167
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 2: he throws like ninety eight and he's like five foot nine, Like,

1168
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta.

1169
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: See what this guy's got. Oh, that's awesome. Let me

1170
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: is it Joe?

1171
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I definitely am not saying it right, but

1172
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 2: also maybe I am.

1173
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: Joe Hsi Hsu. So I'm assuming that c Shoe could be.

1174
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: Apparently he's five foot ten and throws ninety eight. That's

1175
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: really nice. I gotta see what that looks like. I'll

1176
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: say this too.

1177
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 3: Tim Midley has a bit of a squad and they

1178
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 3: probably the best squad they've ever had.

1179
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: A bit of a squad. T Middley is going to

1180
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: have a line.

1181
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 3: They beat the Cubs on Tuesday Night, and the Cubs

1182
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 3: pitch Kate Horn Caate Horton dominated that game. They got

1183
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 3: at their runs off Jack Neely and my boy Jeff

1184
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 3: Bringham late in the game, Jacob Marcy, Vinnie pas Quantino, Dominice, Canzone,

1185
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 3: Jack Hack, Leon, Kyle Teal. That's in terms of the

1186
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 3: WBC lineup of teams that are not in the top tier,

1187
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 3: that's some ballplayers. They're going to have Aaron Nola pitching.

1188
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 3: They have another good picture I'm trying to remember right now.

1189
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 3: I think Michael Lorenzen who that's a kind of a

1190
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 3: funny one Manonaccio, Corny Grisefo, sam Ald Gary like this,

1191
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 3: it's I'm out of Vino, Like, they have enough guys

1192
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 3: where they could be like a sneaky team that reaches

1193
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 3: the final four, similar to how Mexico was in the

1194
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 3: last tournament.

1195
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: Who also has a good team, Yeah, Mexico is always good.

1196
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: And then I'll also shout out Cuba because of Levon Moynello.

1197
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: He's just he's disgusting.

1198
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 2: He went from being an elite MPB reliever to now

1199
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: being an elite MPB starter. There's debate whether it ever

1200
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: come to major league baseball because he doesn't want to

1201
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: defect for family reasons.

1202
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: But the dudes talented out.

1203
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 2: The ass like he could just he could be a really,

1204
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 2: really good starting pitcher at the major league level, and

1205
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 2: I want to see him pitch against major leaguers.

1206
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: We have the Last Second medium marvel Ooh last second Wow.

1207
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 3: Some random Yankee account. I only want to give it

1208
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 3: the the give him the credit to say they're at

1209
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 3: But it's a it's a video of wan So the

1210
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 3: MLB post and shuffling in this game against the Tigers,

1211
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,439
Speaker 3: and he goes, It's crazy how his aura instantly came

1212
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 3: back the second he's not wearing a Mets jersey.

1213
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: Hasn't been watching spring training.

1214
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 3: I guess I just I just down just as someone

1215
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 3: who kind of is sucking psychosis.

1216
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they think about us, hate us because

1217
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: they ate us. That's what they say.

1218
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 2: I believe, But I don't think we can talk anymore.

1219
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: At is shockingly fifteen minutes fifty minutes of Mets Up

1220
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,000
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1221
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1224
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Speaker 1: We'll catch you guys on the next one peace Out psidecast.

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