WEBVTT - TechStuff Visits E3 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:07.280 Get in touch with technology with tex Stuff from how 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:15.800 stuff works dot Com. Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:19.360 I'm Jonathan stricklandhand I and both of us are jet lagged. 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:25.840 Does it feel three hours later than what it should 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:29.920 be to you? Or yes, that I can't count anymore. 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:32.319 I'm not really sure. Lauren and I have both been 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:39.560 on very long flights recently, and uh, Lauren, you were vacating, right, Yes, 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:43.120 I happened to be in l A. Jonathan was in 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:46.479 l A for an entirely work related purpose for E three, 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:49.239 and between the two of us, I think I think 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:52.919 Lauren wins. You got to see dead Elephants and uh, 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:57.800 Mastodon's Dead Mastodons elephants, and I got uh. I feel 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:00.800 like the band Mastodon is playing in my right now. 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:03.319 That's that's how I feel. That's a reference for all 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:07.840 my Atlanta buddies. But yeah, I did go to E three, 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:09.640 and so we thought it would be fun to record 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:11.720 a quick episode of tech Stuff to kind of talk 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:15.440 about the stuff, what I saw and uh, and sort 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:21.320 of my my conclusions from the entire experience of E three. So, Lauren, 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:23.800 where would you like to start? Well that how how 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:25.520 many years have you been going to E three? Now, 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:28.080 I've I've gone three times. So I did take a 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:30.720 break because we there used to be a house stuff 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:33.759 works show called pop Stuff. When pop Stuff came along, 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:36.520 they decided that that video games kind of fell into 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:39.520 their their umbrella, the whole pop culture thing. And I 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:42.440 didn't disagree, and uh and I thought it was perfectly fine. 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:45.279 But then pop Stuff went on hiatus. Um, the hosts 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.160 of pop Stuff are now the hosts of Stuffy miss 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:50.480 industry class. And so it came back round to who 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:53.080 should we send to E three. And because of the 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:55.160 fact that we had an opening, and because the fact 0:01:55.240 --> 0:02:00.440 that uh, two major companies were introducing brand new can souls, 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:02.760 we really wanted to be there. Yeah. Yes, so that's 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:06.920 that is the reason why I went so and and yeah, 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:09.280 Jonathan one day came into the office and said, hey, Lauren, 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:11.920 would you we can send one person to Eat three? 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:13.399 Do you want it to be you? And I said 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:16.720 that sounds terrifying, No, thank you. Yeah, so I I 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:19.280 took one for the team. A lot of people, let's 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:20.720 we'll get this out of the way first. A lot 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:23.680 of people who have not been to Eat three think 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.240 of it as This has got to be the most 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:29.200 amazing experience. You know, get to play video games all 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:32.480 day long. No, what you mostly get to do is 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:35.200 wait in line to play a video game for between 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:37.520 five and twenty minutes, and then you have to leave, 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:39.440 and then you have to go wait in another line 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:41.760 to play a totally different game for five to twenty minutes. 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:43.880 So it's like a theme park, except with more video 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:46.360 game trailers. Right, it's a it's a theme park where 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:48.520 instead of a ride, it's a video game that you 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.320 play for a little while. Um, and in some cases 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:53.360 you don't even play a game. You wait in line 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:55.560 so that you can watch a demo of someone else 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:57.079 playing the game, but you don't get a chance to 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:59.800 play it yourself. Are possibly a trailer or teaser trailer 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.240 times it's just a teaser. Yeah, sometimes it's not even 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:07.600 a full trailer. Now, to be fair, this whole show, 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:11.320 the purpose of it is so that video game publishers 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:14.320 and and distributors have a chance to meet with with 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:17.400 retail establishments that could be carrying their games, as well 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:21.600 as the media and other industry members to talk about gaming, 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:23.919 the titles that are coming up, the hardware that's coming 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:27.280 up gives companies like Microsoft and Sony and Nintendo a 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:30.320 chance to say, these are our platforms, we want more 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:33.400 games developed for them. This is how we are going 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:36.320 to support developers so that they can make games for 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:40.160 our platforms. It's really industry related. It's not open to 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:42.200 the public, right right, Yeah, I think that they closed 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:44.280 that down. What was it like, Circutit asn't too Yeah, 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:46.560 there was there was a time where they experimented with 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:48.360 having it open to the public, but it meant that 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:50.680 all the people within the industry had that much more 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:53.920 trouble getting access to the stuff that they needed to 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:56.920 have in order to make their decisions. All that being said, 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:59.920 there's still very much kind of a party atmosphere at Ether. 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:03.040 You've got a lot of very young people, a lot 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:06.760 of the media, there were young bloggers. Like I felt 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:08.400 like while I was in line to go to the 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:10.920 Microsoft press event, I felt that I was easily the 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:13.720 oldest person in line, apart from the security people working 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:15.760 the show. How should I and I give you? I 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:18.120 can I give you stuff about being older than me, 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:22.320 but you're you're really not that. But the most of 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:24.360 these kids were in their early twenties, well we'll get 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:28.720 into some of the other members of the press, well, 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:30.240 at least at least the people who went to the 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:33.080 Microsoft event. Not all of them are necessarily pressed, but uh, 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:35.760 I have some I have some opinions I would like 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:39.839 to share about that. Uh. But all that being said, uh, 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:41.880 there is still a little bit of a party atmosphere. 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:45.800 People are still having fun. But it's not like the 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:49.640 mecca of gamers everywhere the way it's seen because you're 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:52.679 you're usually playing a game that's maybe not even finished, 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:54.360 and if it, even if it is finished, you're playing 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:56.440 a very small section of it, so you can just 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:59.159 get a hint of what the game is like. Sure, 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:01.159 sure so. And it's not something like a like like 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:03.800 packs or dragon Con or Comic Con or anything like 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:06.159 right where you've got I mean, all the people in 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:09.080 costumes are being paid to be there. For the most part. 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:11.719 There were a couple of members of the media who, 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:15.200 as part of their their representation, they were they were 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:17.200 dressed up. Yeah, there was a lady dressed up as 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:19.800 Laura Croft who had a media badge and she was 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:23.039 in the media lounge dressed as Laura Croft. And that's 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:25.400 I guess, Yeah, I guess that's her thing, which is 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:29.280 perfectly fine. But yeah, it's not like a convention that's 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:31.840 open to the public where everyone's showing up in costume. 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:33.720 Most of the people who are in costume are working 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:38.280 for specific vendor or specific developer publisher. Although, yeah, the 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.040 funny thing about about l A is that, you know, 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:41.960 when I was down on Hollywood Boulevard, I did run 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:44.839 into two Master Chiefs and a Cortana just walking down 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:46.880 the streets. I didn't run into any Master Chiefs while 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:49.359 I was there, but yeah, so anyway, that's the overview 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:52.200 of E three. It is industry only. It is held 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:55.159 once a year. It's held in Los Angeles. They've already 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:57.279 got the announcement for the dates for the two thousand 0:05:57.320 --> 0:06:01.279 fourteen E three. We'll see goes to that one. But 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:03.400 let's let's get into some specifics. What do you want 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:06.560 to know? Right, Yeah, so so you mentioned Microsoft. I 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:10.320 heard that there was a few big announcements for Microsoft, 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:13.080 right of course, the big one being that this is 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:15.920 the year that they come out with the Xbox One. Yeah. Yeah, 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:19.279 they had a release data in November, No, will be 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:22.080 the release date, and uh, the price is four hundred 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:25.240 and nine dollars in the United States. Um, so that's 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:27.920 a hundred dollars more than what the Xbox three sixty 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.520 went for when it first went on. They also announced 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:33.440 a brand new version of the Xbox three sixty, which 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:36.839 was slimmed down and made a little more sleek. Uh heard. 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:38.320 I heard it was going to be quieter and that 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:40.599 they're going to be continuing to come out with games 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:43.039 for it. They said that was as quiet as the 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:47.000 previous versions, and that raised a couple of snickers in 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:50.320 the audience. But yes, um and and there are some 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:53.080 some they didn't announce some games there specifically for the 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:55.760 three sixty there there. I think their point they were 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:59.480 trying to make is that they aren't abandoning the three sixty. 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:02.200 You know, when when the three sixty came out, it 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:06.359 was very shortly thereafter that they stopped all development for 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:09.760 the original Xbox and uh and, I think that this 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.080 message they're sending is we're not going to do that 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.640 with this generation. You're going to have games for the 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.000 Xbox one, and we're still developing games for the three 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:19.080 sixty because we still think of it as a viable 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:21.720 piece of hardware. So for a while it's going to 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.000 follow the same kind of model that's Sony tends to do, 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:27.040 where you support the old generation while you're also pushing 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:29.960 the new one. Now, when they were their press event, 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:33.800 it was um divide it up into sections. They started 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:36.320 off with a big preview of metal Gear Solid as 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:38.560 I recall, which got a lot of people in the 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:41.480 audience excited. Then they talked about the three sixty, and 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:44.040 then they went on to the Xbox One. Microsoft had 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:46.720 recently received a lot of criticism because they had an 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:49.800 event about well about two and a half weeks before 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:52.840 E three where they unveiled the Xbox One for the 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:56.240 first time, and in that one they were specifically talking 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:59.200 about its capabilities as sort of an entertainment center. They 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:01.840 didn't really talk about games very much, and they cut 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:03.840 a lot of flak for that, even though Microsoft had 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.160 said that they outset we're not talking about games, will 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:09.120 do that at E three. Uh So, this time they 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:12.840 talked about games a lot, and they talked about some 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:19.760 innovations that I think are largely not appreciated by gamers, 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:22.119 or at least not it's not something that they're looking for. 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:25.480 And I think that was a problem because when we 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:28.080 get into the sony thing. We'll talk about, you know, 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:31.080 the various impressions that people got from that press day. 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:35.160 Well Microsoft's press event. You know, they talked about how, 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:39.200 uh they were integrating smart Glass, which is their mobile 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:43.920 operating system integration with Xbox Live and Xbox so that 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.520 would give you more control over games, it would give 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.559 you access to other content that's related to the games. 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:51.640 They showed a lot of games that have a tactical 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:55.600 element where someone using smart Glass could influence a game 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:58.920 by uh seeing an overview of an entire map. So 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:01.640 let's say it's squad ace combat. This person might be 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:03.880 able to call in an air strike against opponents or 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:06.440 be able to warn someone like, hey, if you turn 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:08.800 that corner, there's three guys waiting to ambush you. That 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:11.760 so extra functionality that you wouldn't get from the game itself. 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:13.719 But once you link a tablet into it, you get this, 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:17.040 uh this added dimension, right, and and that's cool. But 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:20.680 I think a lot of gamers are thinking like, well, okay, okay, 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:23.400 but I'm already paying five for this console, right, I 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:25.960 don't want to have to buy another tablet or or 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:27.840 even you know, people are just saying like I'm just 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:29.440 that's just not what I'm looking for in the game. 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:30.959 I don't think it. I don't think it had the 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:35.640 big impact that Microsoft was possibly expecting for. They also 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:39.679 talked a lot about their Connect and the connect um 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:44.080 uh interaction with games, and again, I think that's one 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:46.040 of those things that it's really cool. I think both 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:49.439 the smart glass and Connect are really cool uh innovative 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:53.440 approaches to gaming. But a lot of gamers just they 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:56.200 haven't gotten to the point where they care about that, right. Sure, 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:58.640 I felt like, um, like, the Connect is a really 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:02.120 great like family party kind of thing most of the time. 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:04.920 But but I don't know anyone who plays any quote 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:08.040 unquote serious games with a Connect. It's all. It's all, 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.880 you know, like, oh like that the WE sports style 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:14.200 thing or Connect Sports whatever that franchise. I could see. 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:17.120 I could see it becoming more useful as it gets 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:20.559 more deeply integrated into games. For example, again going back 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:23.840 to like a squad based game, if you are human 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:28.480 character and you are playing with artificially intelligent helpers, and 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:31.760 you issue a command over the connect, and that way 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.120 you don't have to press some sort of button sequence 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:37.120 to tell your squad weight. Here then that could be 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:39.640 very useful. And of course that's just one small example. 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:42.280 And then there's always the gesture control stuff too, not 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:46.800 just voice control. But again I don't think that's that's 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:49.920 what their core gamer element is really. Yeah, they're not 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:52.760 asking for it yet, they're not they're not interested in 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:54.640 it yet. And I think part of that is just 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:58.320 because it's such a young technology that none of us 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:01.640 have really seen how it benefits exactly. We haven't had 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:06.200 a core example saying, look see how amazing this game is. 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:09.000 When you put these other elements in with this game, 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.719 it makes it a must buy. I don't think we've 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:13.840 had a title like that yet, or at least if 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:16.800 we have, I don't think it's gotten widespread enough acclaim 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:21.200 for that to be a decision making factor. So most gamers, 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:25.680 what they're expecting expecting is better graphics, better processor. Um, 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:28.160 they're hoping for a decent price, and some of the 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:31.880 other elements that Microsoft didn't really address, which includes the 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:35.760 whole idea about what happens with used games, because Microsoft's 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:39.920 approach is all about streaming and and cloud based and 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:44.520 essentially moving away from the physical media that we tend 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:48.080 to think of when we think of consoles, and that 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.280 is a is a dramatic departure to the way that 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:53.720 games have been done in the past. And it also 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:57.280 means that there are some pretty strong restrictions, like if 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:01.000 it's a digital copy, how do you sell a used game? 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:04.600 And why would you pay less money for a used 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:07.040 game if it's a digital copy in the media is 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:09.960 exactly the same. It makes it makes the word used 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:12.600 meaningless in terms of and that's that's a big concern 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:14.280 because there are a lot of people who want Most 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:16.360 people buy I'm not going to say most people, but 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:18.880 a lot of people buy a second market. Yeah, because 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:20.920 this way they can buy the games they want for 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:22.559 a little less money than what they would have to 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:24.319 spend at full price. And maybe it takes them a 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:27.040 couple of months to buy it, but yeah, and then 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:28.920 when they're done with it, they can sell it back 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:31.079 if they want for a much lower price and a 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:33.880 half dollars or whatever it is. But it's it's still 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:35.840 it's still one of those things where if you add 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:38.640 it up, they're like, Okay, look, over the course of 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.920 this year, that meant that I I paid ten bucks 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:44.600 for a fifty dollar title. Once you factor in all 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:47.760 of this stuff over time, right, and now it's going 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:51.640 to be well, they used doesn't really make any sense anymore, 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:53.440 so I have to buy it new. Then you have 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:56.840 the concept of you need to be connected to the 0:12:56.880 --> 0:13:00.200 internet and it has to Yeah, it does this once 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:03.640 once every twenty four hours. Um. A lot of people 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:06.520 are upset about that. Now, personally, from my own perspective, 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.680 it doesn't bother me that much. But it's because the 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:12.640 way I use my Xbox right now, it's always connected anyway, 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.520 and so and I don't I don't tend to shop 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:18.520 for games and used games. I don't sell off games. 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:20.960 So it doesn't affect me personally because that's my own 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:24.320 personal style however, Right, But that's that's very much a 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:26.920 class issue. I would say of assuming that that there 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:31.000 that their core basic gamer has a twenty four hour day, 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:33.680 seven day a week Internet connection, that it never goes out, 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:37.400 that they are interested in being online all the time, 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.640 and that they are okay with spending that much money 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:43.400 on as many games as they want to buy. Sure, 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:47.319 I am the case the perfect case for Microsoft's approach, 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.480 because that's how I play. But I recognize there are 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:54.880 other people who have very different restrictions on them that 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.959 have different life circumstances. I completely understand that, and I 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.679 understand why they will be upset about it. Honestly, for me, 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:02.600 that the cost of games is part of why I 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:05.000 don't play more video games because I'm like, well, you know, 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:08.120 either I could buy this video game, or I could 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:10.079 go to a couple of movies and have a couple 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:12.320 drinks some friends and have a really nice dinner, and 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:16.760 I would overall rather do all of that stuff. Then yeah, 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:20.840 And that's the thing is that it's I think what 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:24.240 Microsoft is doing is it's trying to push gaming into 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:27.440 a new era, a new generation, and that means having 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:32.320 to leave behind support for uh traditional forms of gaming. 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:35.560 And it's it's a tough thing. It's really hard. It's 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:37.360 hard to get people on your side when you do that, 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:39.880 because in general, we don't really like change that much. 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:43.720 We like improvements, we don't like change. Nerd nerds don't 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:47.160 like change. That's crazy. Well, people in general hate to 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:51.040 break it to you, not just nerds. So but change 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.360 is one of those things where I mean, we've seen 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:55.960 this with other companies like Apple is famous for this, 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:59.840 where Apple will stop supporting one form of media force 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:03.840 ing the industry to conform to Apple's new approach if 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:06.560 they want to continue working with Apple. Usually that means 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:10.720 that there's a year or two of struggle before things 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:13.480 settle down and everyone either forgets what it used to 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:15.840 be like or they actually prefer the new way. But 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:18.440 it takes time for that to happen. And so I 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:20.400 think it's the same thing with this is that you 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:23.800 know this, this has upset some gamers. I don't think 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:28.960 that the you know, unless Microsoft dramatically changes it's uh, 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.400 it's strategy. I don't think that that's going to change 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:36.720 anytime soon. But I do think that over time the 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:43.520 objections will become less uh what's the right word, um adamant, 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:46.320 They're going to be Maybe maybe that's maybe that's just 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:48.960 their market too. I mean, you know, it's there are 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:51.760 certainly different segments of the gamer market. Enough people are 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.240 involved in gaming communities these days that I think it's 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:57.480 very possible for them to target that market if they want. Now, 0:15:57.520 --> 0:15:59.720 I will say, I had a chance to play a 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:03.960 few games using the Xbox One. Uh, I don't know, 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:05.760 if it's just me, it felt like the controller was 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:08.720 actually a little smaller than it used to be. Um, 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:10.920 maybe maybe that was just you know, it could have 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:12.560 just all been in my mind because I didn't have 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:15.160 a chance to play Xbox three sixty and the Xbox 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:18.520 One back to back. But it just felt a little different. Uh, 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:21.480 not in a necessarily a bad way, but it took 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:24.920 a little getting used to. Um, the shoulder buttons are 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:26.920 a little different, and the trigger buttons are a little different. 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:32.120 But the games I played were very responsive and very 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:35.720 pretty to look at. They also had some interesting teasers 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:39.680 at the Microsoft precedent, including one of a game franchise 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:44.040 that's beloved by both people on this podcast, Halo. Uh 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.280 it was. It was very much a teaser. It had 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:51.720 a a robed figure trudging through the desert and you 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:54.400 couldn't see any details on this figure at all, just 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:57.480 as they're walking over the dunes and these beautiful particle 0:16:57.520 --> 0:16:59.880 effects with the sand and everything. Uh, this is obviously 0:16:59.880 --> 0:17:04.080 a pre rendered teaser, not in game footage necessarily. Then 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:07.320 suddenly the ground starts to shake, sand starts to fall away, 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:13.440 and this enormous um mechanical creature like bird like thing 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:17.240 comes out of the desert. Essentially is like an evolved 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:19.040 version of what the source of stuff you saw on 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:22.040 Halo four. And then the wind from its emergence of 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:25.200 from the desert blows back the cowl on the rope, 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:28.040 revealing Master Chief. Uh. And then it just had the 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:32.080 title for Halo five and the crowd went nuts. Um. Now, 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:35.040 let me tell you, out of all the stuff that 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:39.359 happened at Microsoft's press event, the one thing that got 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:43.639 the biggest response. And this is very telling. You know, 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:46.199 Microsoft is going through all these issues where gamers are 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:49.399 worried about the future of the console and how you know. 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:52.960 They're worried about the connect being required and having to 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:54.800 have it connected all the time in order to play games. 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:58.280 They're worried about the the consistent connection to the Internet. 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:02.640 They're worried about the used games. Microsoft said one thing 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.720 that got the crowd cheering, which was that they were 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:09.680 moving away from Microsoft Points and going to real currency, 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:12.840 right right, I heard about that. So no longer will 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:16.000 you have to pay money to buy six Microsoft points 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:19.240 to then buy a twelve hundred Microsoft point game left 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:21.600 over with four hundred points. This was one of those issues. 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:23.479 It's like there are a lot of places that do 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:25.280 this sort of thing. I always call it the Disney 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:30.920 dollar approach, where you buy into a platform specific currency, 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:34.160 but the amount of real money you spend to get 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:38.840 the platform currency uh never matches up with whatever the 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:41.360 actual projects. Sure, and it's all, it's all. I think 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:43.760 people are pretty aware that that's all spoken mirrors. It's 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:47.080 a way of getting people to uh not pay as 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:50.920 much attention to what they're buying, right. Well, and there's 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:52.840 also and and there's also the fact that you know 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:54.840 you're gonna have to spend more money than what you 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:56.640 need to buy whatever it is you want to buy, 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:59.520 because again, it doesn't match up exactly right. They're moving 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:02.639 away from that to real currency purchases, and I got 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:04.359 a huge response from the crowd. That was the biggest 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:05.840 one of the night as far as I could tell, 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:09.720 besides maybe the Halo teaser. So when when your biggest 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:12.280 response is the fact that you're moving away from a 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:15.640 points based currency to real currency, and it'll be it'll 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:17.920 be real for whatever region, you know, like in the 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:20.399 United States dollars, in the UK it'll be pounds, and 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:26.080 in Europe it'll be euros, and you know, etcetera, etcetera. 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:28.440 So it'll uh, but the fact that that was the 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:32.120 biggest response was very kind of telling I think that 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:35.320 that that it wasn't anything else from Microsoft that got 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:37.240 that big of a buy in from the crowd. That 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:40.080 they that they may be weren't catering enough to the 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:43.600 people who were there with their content to uh with 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:46.399 their with their presentation right right. And when I walked 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:49.399 into E three, before I had seen anything, I was 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:53.879 absolutely convinced that I would buy an Xbox one and 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:57.560 I would essue the PS four and the Xbox One 0:19:57.560 --> 0:19:59.800 would be my only console. And I'll tell you what 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:03.479 after the break, I'll tell you more about how that 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:06.280 decision changed. But before I do, let's take a quick 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:10.199 moment to thank our sponsor. Alright, we're back. So I 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:14.479 covered Microsoft, right and and you just finished saying that 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:16.920 you weren't too sure about Sony going into the going 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:19.120 into E three. How did you feel about it once 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:21.840 you've seen their presentation? Alright? So before I said that 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:23.840