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Speaker 1: Get in touch with technology with tex Stuff from how

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Speaker 1: stuff works dot Com. Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jonathan stricklandhand I and both of us are jet lagged.

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Speaker 1: Does it feel three hours later than what it should

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Speaker 1: be to you? Or yes, that I can't count anymore.

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Speaker 1: I'm not really sure. Lauren and I have both been

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Speaker 1: on very long flights recently, and uh, Lauren, you were vacating, right, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I happened to be in l A. Jonathan was in

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Speaker 1: l A for an entirely work related purpose for E three,

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Speaker 1: and between the two of us, I think I think

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Speaker 1: Lauren wins. You got to see dead Elephants and uh,

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Speaker 1: Mastodon's Dead Mastodons elephants, and I got uh. I feel

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Speaker 1: like the band Mastodon is playing in my right now.

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Speaker 1: That's that's how I feel. That's a reference for all

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Speaker 1: my Atlanta buddies. But yeah, I did go to E three,

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Speaker 1: and so we thought it would be fun to record

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Speaker 1: a quick episode of tech Stuff to kind of talk

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Speaker 1: about the stuff, what I saw and uh, and sort

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Speaker 1: of my my conclusions from the entire experience of E three. So, Lauren,

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Speaker 1: where would you like to start? Well that how how

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Speaker 1: many years have you been going to E three? Now,

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Speaker 1: I've I've gone three times. So I did take a

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Speaker 1: break because we there used to be a house stuff

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Speaker 1: works show called pop Stuff. When pop Stuff came along,

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Speaker 1: they decided that that video games kind of fell into

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Speaker 1: But then pop Stuff went on hiatus. Um, the hosts

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Speaker 1: of pop Stuff are now the hosts of Stuffy miss

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Speaker 1: industry class. And so it came back round to who

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Speaker 1: should we send to E three. And because of the

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Speaker 1: fact that we had an opening, and because the fact

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Speaker 1: that uh, two major companies were introducing brand new can souls,

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Speaker 1: we really wanted to be there. Yeah. Yes, so that's

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Speaker 1: that is the reason why I went so and and yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan one day came into the office and said, hey, Lauren,

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Speaker 1: would you we can send one person to Eat three?

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Speaker 1: Do you want it to be you? And I said

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Speaker 1: that sounds terrifying, No, thank you. Yeah, so I I

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Speaker 1: took one for the team. A lot of people, let's

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Speaker 1: of people who have not been to Eat three think

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Speaker 1: of it as This has got to be the most

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Speaker 1: amazing experience. You know, get to play video games all

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Speaker 1: day long. No, what you mostly get to do is

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Speaker 1: wait in line to play a video game for between

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Speaker 1: and then you have to go wait in another line

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Speaker 1: to play a totally different game for five to twenty minutes.

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Speaker 1: So it's like a theme park, except with more video

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Speaker 1: game trailers. Right, it's a it's a theme park where

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Speaker 1: instead of a ride, it's a video game that you

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Speaker 1: play for a little while. Um, and in some cases

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Speaker 1: you don't even play a game. You wait in line

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Speaker 1: so that you can watch a demo of someone else

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Speaker 1: play it yourself. Are possibly a trailer or teaser trailer

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Speaker 1: times it's just a teaser. Yeah, sometimes it's not even

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Speaker 1: a full trailer. Now, to be fair, this whole show,

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Speaker 1: the purpose of it is so that video game publishers

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Speaker 1: retail establishments that could be carrying their games, as well

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Speaker 1: as the media and other industry members to talk about gaming,

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Speaker 1: the titles that are coming up, the hardware that's coming

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Speaker 1: up gives companies like Microsoft and Sony and Nintendo a

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Speaker 1: chance to say, these are our platforms, we want more

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Speaker 1: our platforms. It's really industry related. It's not open to

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Speaker 1: there's still very much kind of a party atmosphere at Ether.

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Speaker 1: You've got a lot of very young people, a lot

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Speaker 1: sure so. And it's not something like a like like

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Speaker 1: right where you've got I mean, all the people in

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Speaker 1: Well Microsoft's press event. You know, they talked about how,

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Speaker 1: your console to play on its own. So with cloud computing,

432
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 1: you have these massive server farms that are running the

433
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 1: games for you. You're streaming the content, so it's kind

434
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 1: of like you know, an ullah or on live or

435
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 1: something like that, and you're able to suddenly, uh play

436
00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 1: these games that normally your console couldn't run. So approach

437
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 1: was that we just made the console stronger and you

438
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 1: can play whatever you want. Oh yeah, yeah, that's a

439
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 1: that's definitely a thing. No, I was I was gonna ask,

440
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: have you heard anything about whether Microsoft's games for the

441
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 1: Xbox One are going to be tied to a game

442
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 1: or profile so that you can take them to a

443
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 1: different box or yes, it is supposed to do that,

444
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 1: So you're supposed to be tied to it so that

445
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 1: you can do that sort of thing. Uh, you can,

446
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 1: according to x or Microsoft. Rather, you can sell off

447
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 1: a game, but there could be restrictions on that based

448
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 1: upon h individual game publisher. So in other words, Microsoft

449
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 1: is leaving it up to publishers to decide what the

450
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 1: um the actual policy will be for selling used games,

451
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: and the publishers, for their part, have said this might

452
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 1: be true, but they haven't given us any details, so

453
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,479
Speaker 1: we don't know how that would be implemented. So at

454
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 1: the moment, there's still a big question mark about used

455
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 1: games in general. With the Xbox One. It's not to

456
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,479
Speaker 1: say that there will not be any way of doing it,

457
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,239
Speaker 1: but it may be very much restricted, and it may

458
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Speaker 1: be a case by case basis, which is just going

459
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: to drive players nuts. So that's impossible. But back to

460
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 1: Sony any that they also had something to say about authentication. Well,

461
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 1: you know, they had stuff to say about everything, Like

462
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 1: essentially every single point they made was that this is

463
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 1: not the way we're doing things. The Microsoft way is

464
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 1: not the way we're doing things. It didn't use those

465
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: words specifically, but they were very careful to kind of

466
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 1: go ahead with that and their and their conference was

467
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: maybe six hours after Microsoft's conference, Yeah it was, And

468
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how much I think that most of

469
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: their their points had to be pretty much in stone,

470
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 1: because even even giving given six hours, there's not enough

471
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: time to make the company multimedia presentation decisions on corporate

472
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 1: not just multimedia decisions but you're talking about decision that

473
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 1: will affect the business from that point forward. That's a

474
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: huge decision. I can't think of any company that would

475
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: be nimble enough to make that kind of change in

476
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: real time and within six hours say all right, well,

477
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 1: now we know how we're gonna answer or this question

478
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 1: because Microsoft did this way and people didn't like it,

479
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,479
Speaker 1: so we're gonna do it this way. I don't think

480
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 1: that was possible, I'm sure, but I, you know, the

481
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: cynical part of me suspects that maybe they listened to

482
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Speaker 1: xboxes presentation and watched the crowd response and had their speaker.

483
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: I think they probably tweet the approach right so that

484
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: they already knew what they were gonna say. Now they

485
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 1: knew how they were going to say it. I think

486
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Speaker 1: that I think that's fair enough. Well. Sony also managed

487
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Speaker 1: to do a few other things. First of all, one

488
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Speaker 1: of the first things he did was they showed off

489
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Speaker 1: the console because because they hadn't previously. Yeah, they had

490
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 1: had a an event earlier inten where they announced the

491
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Speaker 1: console and they talked about some of the games that

492
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 1: would be coming out, but they did not reveal any

493
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: pictures of the console. Itself. They showed off the controller,

494
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 1: and they showed off what the p S I camera

495
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 1: looks like, which is very similar to the connect, but

496
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: they did not show off the console itself. That was

497
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: one of the first things they did, and people's first

498
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 1: reaction was, huh, it looks a lot like the Xbox one. Uh,

499
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: it's a certain and the console looks like a console.

500
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,479
Speaker 1: It's you know, yeah, it Well, the both of them

501
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 1: looked more like something you would see in the home

502
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 1: entertainment stack, right, because the PS three had that that

503
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: curved The original one anyway, had that curved top, which

504
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 1: meant that you could not stack anything on top of

505
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: it because it would just be all wobbly. This one

506
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: looks more like what you would see with a cable box,

507
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: although it does have if you look at it in profile,

508
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 1: it has these kind of it's almost like a little

509
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: rhombus instead of instead of a rectangle. But anyway, yeah,

510
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 1: it's it's a neat design and they showed off a

511
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: lot of games. In fact, they showed it felt like

512
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 1: they showed off a lot more games than Microsoft Dead.

513
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: But they also showed a lot of games for the

514
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Speaker 1: p S three as well as the PS four. They

515
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 1: started off with some really powerful heavy hitters like The

516
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: Last of Us, which the reviews have come in for

517
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: the Last of Us, the game itself, as of the

518
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: recording of this podcast right now, is not yet out.

519
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: It comes out the week this podcast should publish, but

520
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 1: the reviews, the early reviews have all been amazingly positive.

521
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 1: Lots and lots of perfect wars for this game. It's

522
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: and it's a it's a survivalist game. You're you're playing, uh,

523
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 1: an older male character who is looking after a younger

524
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: like a teenage girl character. Uh, it's post apocalypse. Of course,

525
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: there's zombie like critters that are after you, as well

526
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: as other survivors who are not necessarily in the helpful mood.

527
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: And uh, apparently it's just got a very emotionally impactful story.

528
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: I got to play a demo of it and it

529
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: was intense. Also a lot of creative little puzzle solving

530
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: moments in it as well, so uh, yeah, there's no

531
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 1: shortage of zombies at E three. But anyway, other stuff that.

532
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: They then moved on to the PS four and talked

533
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: about some of the games that you would see for

534
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: that and the the interesting uh approaches they had they

535
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: They also talked about a lot of games that were

536
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 1: not really your traditional games that you would see on Xbox.

537
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: Sony kind of excels in this space where they get

538
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: some weird, funky game tames that have innovative style play

539
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: and premises. There are things like like a Little Big Planet.

540
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So if you look at Xbox, they have

541
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 1: some of those, And if you look at Xbox Live Arcade,

542
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: you see some of these kind of independent developer games

543
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: that are really kind of quirky or push your expectations

544
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,479
Speaker 1: of what a game is and what a game can do.

545
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: But I think Sony does this better than Microsoft does.

546
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: In general, Sony tends to have at least Sony tends

547
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: to support independent gamers to a more visible extent in Microsoft.

548
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: You know, maybe both companies are doing the same amount

549
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: of work, but Sony's is way more noticeable. And while

550
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: they didn't dedicate an entire segment of their of their

551
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: precedent to independent games, they did show off some independent

552
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 1: games that got the crowd excited and some some jobs

553
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: weird premises like uh my favorite was Octodad Octo Dad,

554
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: where you play as an octopus who is posing as

555
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: a human and your goal is to get through various

556
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: scenarios without people suspecting that you are in fact an

557
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: octopus in human clothes. It's so fun. I got to

558
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: play a demo. So in this game, you are actually

559
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: using the PS four's controllers and this this title, by

560
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: the way, is going to be available not just on

561
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: the PS four but also on Mac and Windows computers.

562
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 1: But you use your various buttons on your PS four

563
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 1: controller to control the legs, your tentacles. Uh and uh.

564
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 1: The physics of the game are trying to match what

565
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: an octopus would be. In other words, you have no bones,

566
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: so you're all flippy floppy as you're trying to walk

567
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: around and as people as you draw attention to yourself.

568
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: There's more likely to be at an incident of someone

569
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: knowing that you're an octopus when when people start realizing

570
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: that you have no bones in your legs, when you're

571
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: all flippy floppy. Yeah. So the demo they had was

572
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: that you had to get dressed for your wedding and

573
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,719
Speaker 1: then make your way down the aisle so that no

574
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: one noticed that you were an octopus. So you had

575
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: to find a tuxedo and you had to find an

576
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: engagement ring or actually a wedding band and put it

577
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: on your intended hand and uh and and controlling. You

578
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: would switch between controlling the legs and controlling the arms.

579
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: You wouldn't control all of them at the same time,

580
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: so you're controlling you're controlling walking for a while. Yeah,

581
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: and then you switch to your arms. Controlling your arms,

582
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: you had to use both duel stick, both both of

583
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: the stick controllers to control the x, y, and Z

584
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: axis so that you could do depth as well as

585
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: vertical and horizontal control and judging how far you needed

586
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: to put your arms so you could slide this ring

587
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: onto your wife's arm. Was I mean, people behind me

588
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: are laughing their butts off because it's just so ridiculous,

589
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: And it was no matter who was playing the demo,

590
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: that was what was going on. People were just laughing

591
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: at how silly and absurd and and funny this this

592
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: game was. Um. Honestly, I don't know if the game

593
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: like could hold up for a full length game, but

594
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: I had a lot of fun playing that one demo. Uh.

595
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: I also noticed, at least to me again, just as

596
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,719
Speaker 1: the Xbox One controller felt smaller in my hands, and

597
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: again I might be just crazy, But the PS four

598
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: controller felt larger in my hands. Anyone who's heard me

599
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: rant about Sony has heard the problem I have with

600
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: the dual shot controller I have. My fingers aren't incredibly long,

601
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: but they're fairly long, and I get like crab hands

602
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: I've I've always found the PlayStation controller is a little

603
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: bit crampy. Yeah, yeah, I too. More so than that.

604
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: I was actually the one kid who didn't want to

605
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: put down that original like bear sized Xbox. Yeah, the

606
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: Duke Duke controllers what it was called. Yeah, No, I

607
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: like that one too, and mean it was like it's

608
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: like a big crayon. It's just more comfortable in your hands.

609
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: And the Sega Dreamcast had a very similar kind of controller.

610
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: It was these large controllers that felt more comfortable in

611
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: my hands. The PlayStation controller, I've always felt as a

612
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: little cramped for the way I hold the controller, and

613
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: so the PS four controller felt a little more comfortable. Now. Granted,

614
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: keep in mind I was playing for five to ten

615
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: minutes at a time times, so it's not like a

616
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: true gaming session where I call in quote unquote sick,

617
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: and uh sick means uncharted. Four just came out, Uh,

618
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: then you know, maybe if I were to play a

619
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: marathon session, I would realize that I could no longer

620
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: open a jar. You know, I don't know, because I

621
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: didn't have that chance. Jonathan really never does that. No,

622
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't call in quote unquote sick anyway.

623
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: So the PS four announcement also drew a lot of

624
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: of acclaim because one they said that you don't have

625
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: any problem with use games, which, really, when you think

626
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: about it, the PS four got a lot of praise

627
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: because of the things it didn't do. It essentially kept

628
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: things the same, and by keeping things the same, it

629
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: made gamers happy, which again goes back to that thing

630
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: about gamers hate change, change, and yeah, that's a that's

631
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see how that how that shakes out. Well.

632
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: They also announced that it would be a hundred dollars

633
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: less expensive than the Xbox One. Yeah, I heard that.

634
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: That was that. That was the last thing that they announced,

635
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: basically in the presentations, and they said that it would

636
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,719
Speaker 1: be available by the holiday season of this year, and

637
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: that it would be one would be three dollars in

638
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: the United States, So that's one hundred dollars less than

639
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: the Xbox one, and that got people really excited to

640
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: I mean, they went nuts, and uh and I think

641
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: that to me, that means that Sony has got to

642
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: be this. This is just me guessing, this is my opinion,

643
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: but I think Sony has to be taking a loss

644
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: on those consoles. They have to be selling them at

645
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: a loss and hoping to make up the money in

646
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: game sales. But I can't imagine that because there's not

647
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: that much difference between the PS four and the Xbox

648
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: one when you get down the square wise, and I

649
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: mean I always forget. You know, the last generation console

650
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: came out in two five. That's a really long time ago. Well, yeah,

651
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: they had said that they had planned for the PS

652
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: three to have a ten year lifespan, like a from

653
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: a life cycle as far as development goes. So uh,

654
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: you know, this just says that they're going to again

655
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: continue to develop for the p S three, just like

656
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: Microsoft is going to continue you to develop for the

657
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: Xbox three sixty. So um, I did hear that they're

658
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: putting off the game streaming that they talked so much

659
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: about it their last press conference until Yeah, that's there's

660
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: still a question about that. I think I think the

661
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: gamers really gave Sony a big pass on on that.

662
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: But it's um, you know, that is something that there's

663
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: still questions about, and there weren't a whole lot of answers.

664
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: It was more like, we're still not ready to talk

665
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: about this. It'll be ready in another you know, year,

666
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: So there's still some questions to answer. But I think

667
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: the combination of the lower price tag and the the

668
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: throwing a bone to gamers as far as the whole

669
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: media thing is concerned, and also you don't have to

670
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: have a persistent Internet connection to play games. You know,

671
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: these sort of things were the things that made gamers

672
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: really happy, and that's what led everyone to say that

673
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: Sony quote unquote one E three and I can't disagree because,

674
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: like I said, when I walked into E three, I

675
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: was convinced I was going to buy an Xbox One

676
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: and skip the PS four. Now I'm almost certain I

677
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: will buy a p S four and I'm still pretty

678
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: sure I'm going to buy an Xbox one. I'm pretty

679
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: sure i'll buy both, but I can't. I don't think

680
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: I can skip the PS four now. And part of

681
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: that is because I looked at some of these independent

682
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: games that are only coming out for the PS four.

683
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: And I am really impressed with Sony's dedication to supporting

684
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: new and innovative ways of creating games, because as much

685
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: as I love video games, I have to admit I'm

686
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: getting a little tired of the military shooters, the zombie games,

687
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: sports games, and even the RPGs. You know, yeah, and

688
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: and they and they, and they get so big and

689
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: so shiny and clearly so much it's dedicated to the

690
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: gorgeous artwork, and I certainly don't want to downplay the

691
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: work that goes into that, because it's wonderful. However, sometimes

692
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: you just really want a game that surprises you. Yeah,

693
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: and well you think about some of the games that

694
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: just got crazy love, like Kenda Marii Demassi. But how

695
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: do you explain how do you explain to someone what

696
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: that game is? I mean, so you try to, and

697
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: people just look at me like I'm from another planet.

698
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: And even if you do describe that game to any accurate,

699
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: accurate level, people don't get it until they pick it

700
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,479
Speaker 1: up and start playing it and they realize fun. Yeah,

701
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: you know. And that's the thing is that Sony is

702
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: getting really good at supporting that kind of development and uh,

703
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not trying to say that Sony is

704
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: an altruistic company that has uh, that has a heart

705
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: of gold or anything. They see the value in this,

706
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: They see that there is room for this kind of

707
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: development and that gamers respond to it. Like the gamers

708
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: didn't respond and independent scene would be non existent. Um.

709
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: And again it's not to say that the Xbox doesn't

710
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 1: support independent developers, it's just not as it's not as visible.

711
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: It's you know, and both of these events, it was

712
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: very clear that they wanted to leverage the big name

713
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: that big names in game development that are out there,

714
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: because that makes a huge impact. I mean, it's a

715
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 1: lot easier to win over a crowd with an established

716
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: brand than it is to show off something that's that's

717
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: completely new and have to hope that your audience gets it. Oh,

718
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: of course, of course. I mean you put you put

719
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: Milk gear up on the screen and have Keith your

720
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: Severland's voice coming at you, and you put Assassin's Creed

721
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: four up there, and you've got pirates. I mean, how

722
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: do you how do you not respond with yea when

723
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: you see Assassin's Creed and Pirates? I said, yeah, by

724
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: the way, that was one of the games I got

725
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: to watch. I got to watch the game play in

726
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: real time. I got to watch someone playing this game.

727
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: It looked great, but they did not let people play it.

728
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: If you weren't working for Sony, you were not playing

729
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: that game. At least maybe they had some closed door

730
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: sessions where people were able to get their hands on it,

731
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: But I was not one of those people. What was

732
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: that Your experience at a lot of bits or quite

733
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: a few, I mean, like, uh, watch Dogs was the

734
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: same way. Um, there are some games that I could

735
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: have gotten up there and played, but it would have

736
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: meant doing it in front of an audience, and I

737
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: don't necessarily want to have my first experience with a

738
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: game being when there's four people giggling, for example. UM.

739
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: Moving away from now we've covered Microsoft and Sonny, we

740
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: can talk about some of the specific games I saw. Fantasia.

741
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: So Fantasia is the next game by Harmonics. That's, of

742
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: course the company that did Guitar Hero and rock Band

743
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: and everyone, and they did some crazy music and rhythm

744
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: games before Guitar Hero and rock Band. They're known for

745
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: integrating music and gameplay and making it a new experience,

746
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 1: but they haven't come out with a game in a while.

747
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: Fantasia was there game that they were showing off at

748
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 1: E three. They talked about they were developing other games

749
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: in house, but they weren't ready to talk about them yet.

750
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: But Fantasia is a game where you are put in

751
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: the role of essentially making mouse in the movie Fantasia,

752
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: you know, as the SORCER's apprentice when he's up there

753
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: on that peak and he's moving his hands around in

754
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: big gestures to control the way. Exactly that's you. They

755
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: play music and what happens is uh. They showed off

756
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: a couple of different examples. The person doing the demo

757
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: showed off Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody and which is exactly what

758
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: you would expect to see in Fantasia. But but what

759
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: happens is you stand and the Connect is what this

760
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: is for the Xbox three, six and the Xbox one.

761
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: The Connect picks up your motions and there's a little

762
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: indicator on the screen that shows you what direction you

763
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: need to swipe with your arm, and then there's a

764
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: little dot or a little uh figure that moves across

765
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: the screen and when it intersects with that line, that's

766
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: when you make the motion. So it's a rhythm game

767
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: in the sense that you need to time it out.

768
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: When the dot hits the motion, that's when you make

769
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 1: the motion, and things like sweeping your arms to the left,

770
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: to the right, up and down, or pushing forward. And

771
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: this would control the volume of the music like a

772
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: essentially the vocals. So if you started missing stuff, then

773
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: the volume starts to go down when you're hitting it,

774
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: the volumes going up until it reaches where it needs

775
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: to be. And then you could also do things like

776
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: at certain parts of the song, control what style of

777
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: music is being played, so you can either go with

778
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: the original composition right so the Queen's original cut, or

779
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 1: in the in the version of Queen, you could also

780
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: choose a hard rock version so it suddenly has a

781
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: lot more guitar and drums in it, or you can

782
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: choose an orchestral version, so suddenly you've got strings and horns.

783
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: And you get to do this throughout the game. And

784
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: not only does it change the nature of the music

785
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 1: that's playing as you're playing the game, it's still the

786
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: same song, but it changes the arrangement in the nature

787
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: of it, it would also change the game play because

788
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: each version would have a slightly different set of motions

789
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: that were associated with that. So one of them might

790
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: have more moments where you have to push forward with

791
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: your hands, and another one might have when it has

792
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: you moving your hands more like a conductor, you know.

793
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: So it all depends on and again you would you

794
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: would mix the song in various ways, so you would have,

795
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: like in the case of Bohemian rhapsty which I believe

796
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: is approximately forty seven minutes long, you would have the

797
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: opportunity to do this multiple times before the song is over.

798
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: Um and it also would give you a chance to

799
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: manipulate things like a guitar solo. You would get to

800
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: a point where a symbol would show up on the

801
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: screen and it would be like a cube or a pyramid,

802
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: and each line of that cube would be represented by

803
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: a motion. And if you hit all the different lines,

804
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 1: like if you were able to hit all the motions

805
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: that came up in a sequence, kind of like you know,

806
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 1: Guitar Hero had the hero moment where you would move

807
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: the guitar and suddenly you're playing like a crazy person.

808
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: Uh solo, It's called a solo crazy person. Brian May

809
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: a crazy person. So it would come up with this

810
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: point where you could manipulate the sound by putting both

811
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: hands forward and moving them apart or closer together, and

812
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: you could or even tilting one hand forward in one

813
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: hand back, and you could change the nature of the sounds,

814
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: so you can make it. It's almost like a wah

815
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: wah pedal with a guitar, and you could change the

816
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: way the solos sounds. And after you were done, that

817
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: modified version that you had just modified in real time

818
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: would play in the background for the for the next

819
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: part of the song, so you would still hear your

820
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: version of the guitar solo playing playing yourself. So it's

821
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: really kind of interesting. Again, I don't know how it

822
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: holds up as a full game. Like thet For a

823
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: few minutes, it was very cute and I wanted to

824
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: do it, but not at the expense of my dignity.

825
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: Uh So I didn't get up there, although like I

826
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: kind of wish I had because I saw what the

827
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: next song was that the person the next person chose,

828
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: which was uh some nights by fun, and I would

829
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: have had a lot of fun just going orchestral through

830
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: that whole song. Like I just want to hear the

831
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: orchestral version, this kettle kettle drums and violence all the

832
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: way through. Um, but it was it did look like

833
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: it was fun. I just don't know again how it

834
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: holds up over a full game. Then again, maybe it's

835
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: not meant to be a full game experience. Like you know,

836
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: if you play Guitar Hero, you might play four or

837
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: five songs and then say all right, I'm done. Sure, sure,

838
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,959
Speaker 1: I've I've I've never played all the way through rock Band.

839
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: I love playing it, you know it party kind of

840
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: situations with a small group of friends. But yeah, yeah,

841
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: So that that was one example I saw where I

842
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: could have gotten hands on if I will hands off

843
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: in a way because it's connect but if I really

844
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: wanted to, but I did not. Other games, I saw Wolfenstein,

845
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: the next Wolfenstein game. I did get a hands on

846
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: with that. Um it's Wolfenstein. It's Wolfenstein with an alternate

847
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: history where uh the Nazis one World War two and

848
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: have subjugated essentially all of Europe including UH, including London,

849
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: and um they have these crazy mech like robots and

850
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: stuff that are making it even more difficult for your b. J.

851
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: Blaskowitz character to kick Nazi butt, but um, it looked

852
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: like the acting they had in the game. They showed

853
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: a cut scene and the acting was phenomenal, like, not

854
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: just from the voice actors and they were very good,

855
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 1: but the modeling they did for the faces looked incredibly convincing,

856
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: like you could see subtle motions like a person, the

857
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: way a person tilted their head or the way their

858
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: eyes moved. That gave it a much more realistic and

859
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: the difference between acting for a camera and acting for

860
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: a stage kind of thing. Yeah, and it and it

861
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: also didn't feel too uncanny valley ish, like you didn't

862
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: have or at least for me, I didn't feel creeped

863
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 1: out by it, at least not any more creeped out

864
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: than having a evil Nazi person in Terrygate. Me that

865
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: it's kind of creepy on its own. But then I

866
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: also got to play Elder Scrolls online for a while. Yeah,

867
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: game is going to be amazing. I had so much

868
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: fun with it. I I I mean, I guess since

869
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: it is a multiplayer game, there's always the opportunity for

870
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: other players to make your life miserable when you're online.

871
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: But the game itself look like it looked like the

872
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 1: kind of stuff you should expect from Elder Scrolls. It

873
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: was you know, engaging world, beautiful graphics, wonderful music. Um,

874
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: you know, the kind of stuff you would expect. You know.

875
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: Obviously a very deep and an established world in that game,

876
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: and I got to see this is all from Bethesda.

877
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: I also got to see a game called The Evil Within,

878
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 1: which is a survival horror game where, um, it definitely

879
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: looked like it had been inspired by movies like Hostile

880
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: and saw a lot of hardcore gore and and torture

881
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: kind of stuff going on in it. Not my cup

882
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: of tea, yeah, but it certainly follows the other tenants

883
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: of survival horror. You know, limited resources. Uh, you're trying

884
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 1: mostly to survive, so fighting is not always the best choice.

885
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: In fact, often it means that you should be sneaking

886
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: around and running away rather than confronting the things that

887
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: will kill you because they are way too strong for

888
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: whatever you happen to have at your disposal. It looks

889
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: like it would be a very intense game for people

890
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: who like that sort of thing. It's just not for me.

891
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: But I didn't get a chance to actually get a

892
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: hands on on that. You know. I saw other games

893
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 1: like World of Tanks, which is known online as a

894
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: kind of crazy tank based game, is now coming to

895
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: the Xbox three sixty. I also saw World of war Planes,

896
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: which is a warplane version of that same sort of thing,

897
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: as well as World of Warships, so that it's very

898
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: arcady kind of version of these sort of military games.

899
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: So they're not at all meant to be realistic, but

900
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: they are. They do look exciting and the people playing

901
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: them had a lot of fun. Disney Infinity, which was

902
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: taking a really interesting approach. Disney is probably best known

903
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: in the merchandizing world as being incredibly smart in the

904
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: sense that you know, Disney makes tons of money in merchandising, right,

905
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: So like like if you've ever been to Disney World

906
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: or Disneyland or on a Disney cruise, anyplace that Disney owns,

907
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: you know about pins, right. You collect these pins and

908
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: you can trade them, and uh, some of them are

909
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: really rare, and it's kind of like you can only

910
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: get from a from a specific character in a specific

911
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: parker from a specific store and exactly exactly well, Disney

912
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: Infinity kind of takes this sort of approach but applies

913
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: it to video games in the sense that there's a

914
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 1: little base station that you attached to your gaming console,

915
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: and the space station has three elements to it where

916
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: you can put two characters and one overlay on this station.

917
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: So the two characters represent player one and player two,

918
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: and you can buy the figures that you put on

919
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: this on this base um and Mick mixing up any

920
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 1: way you want. So if you want to have uh,

921
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: Mike Wazowski from Monsters, Inc. As one of your characters,

922
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: and you want to have Captain Hook from Peter Pan

923
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: as your other character, you could do that. You could

924
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: buy those two figures and you put them together and

925
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: suddenly they're together in this game and they interact together.

926
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: You can also get overlays for from the various movies,

927
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: and they will also be selling play sets, which will

928
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: allow you to incorporate the play set in a virtual

929
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: format into the game. So you're talking about a license

930
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: to print money. There's they're gonna be selling, you know.

931
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: It's it's both a collectible in the sense of someone

932
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: who is also yeah yeah, and the video game element

933
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: also allows the player to create their own games within

934
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: this this virtual sandbox world. So if you bought all

935
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 1: the playsets. You could if you wanted to just create

936
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: a virtual representation of Disneyland accurately, like lay it out

937
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,959
Speaker 1: the way Disneyland is laid out. Or you could create

938
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: a fantasy world where you've got Cinderella's castle next to

939
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: Captain Hook's ship, which is next to uh stitches spaceship,

940
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: or you know, all this kind of stuff. You can

941
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: make the match all you like, and you could create

942
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: different kinds of game, like you could create a racing

943
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 1: game where you could create a sneak game like a uh,

944
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: you know, some sort of thief like roguelike game, where

945
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: you could create a um uh beat him up game.

946
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: Like there's all sorts of stuff you can do, and

947
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: the tools are all within the game itself. Now, this

948
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: is something we've seen in the past with things like

949
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 1: the game Trials, which is a motorcycle game, but it's

950
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: got a crazy amount of customization where you can build

951
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: your own game types to the point where you would

952
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: never know it was a motorcycle game. Because the game

953
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: types that people have made, they've been able to recreate

954
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: other types of games using the tools within Trials. And

955
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: I've seen these videos and I think I do not

956
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: know how you got that engine to do this, right,

957
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: same sort of thing we saw that, you know, Disney

958
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: Infinity was one example, but there are other examples as well,

959
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: including games like Spark, where it gives the the ability

960
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: for players to create their own types of gameplay, their

961
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,919
Speaker 1: own quests, their own challenges, share them online with other

962
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: people so that they can write them out, or they

963
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: can even take a design and tweak it and change

964
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: it around and re upload it. It's sort of this

965
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: open web kind of approach to video game design, but

966
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: within the context of a specific engine. Right, So Disney

967
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: Infinity obviously is not going to interact with the Sparks stuff,

968
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: but Clear and you know, like like whatever Forage version,

969
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: I'm sure Halo five will have. Yeah, So so we've

970
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: seen this in the past. Obviously Forge is a great example.

971
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: We've seen these tools and and even the States way back, right,

972
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: I mean even way back before the whole console version.

973
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: If you go back to things like Duke Newcomb or

974
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: you go to uh Quake or Unreal Tournament, you know

975
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 1: you had map editors where you could build these things yourself. Well,

976
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: now that's becoming more and more of a standard, and

977
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 1: in fact we're seeing games that are being developed specifically

978
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: with that in mind, not just as here's another thing

979
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,959
Speaker 1: you can do, but this is the thing this does.

980
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: And that was very interesting to me to think of

981
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: that as a future for gaming, where you know, you say,

982
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: we've given and you a version of game developer of

983
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: tools that have a very easy interface compared to you know,

984
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 1: coding line by line. Now it's your job to make

985
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 1: the game. And that was and that's that's that's that's fascinating,

986
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 1: especially since so many people are getting interested in programming

987
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: these days. Yeah, and you can never predict what someone

988
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: will create, right, I mean, like, you know, a developer

989
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: will have a very specific idea of what they need

990
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: to do and how they need to accomplish it, and

991
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: then they release this out to everyone and they think, huh,

992
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: I wonder if you can do this thing with these tools,

993
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 1: and the developer never even considered it, and then next

994
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: thing you know, you've got the next most amazing modification ever.

995
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: So it's kind of encouraging innovation and design, which was

996
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: really cool. Yeah. Were there any other pieces of equipment

997
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: there that you saw that we're really cool? Yeah, I

998
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: totally forgot about that. Yes, I saw the Oculus Rift

999
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: and I got to play with that did so this

1000
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: is this is the headset that has two screens, one

1001
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: for each eye creates that sense of depth by giving

1002
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: you the the illusion of depth. You know, your eyes

1003
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 1: are seeing two different scenes and then your brain combines

1004
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: the two into a full picture. And I got to

1005
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: use the Oculus Rift at the Indecade area. Indicade is

1006
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: an organization that supports independent developers. They said they get

1007
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: a lot of support from Sony, so that kind of

1008
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: goes back into what we were saying before. And so

1009
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: I got to play with one of those for the

1010
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: first time, and it was it was really really cool.

1011
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just an interesting experience to have

1012
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: this true first person view. In this case, it was

1013
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: a independent game that allowed me to walk around these

1014
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: um giant asteroid like structures. And I remember I was

1015
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: walking around the first one and I was like, well,

1016
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: I've walked around this whole thing and I don't see

1017
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: anything else I can do. And I looked down off

1018
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: the edge and I saw another one further down. I

1019
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: was like, well, let's find out what happens if I

1020
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: walk off the edge. So I walked off the edge

1021
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: and I fell and landed on the next one, and

1022
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: then I discovered this weird little platform with this glowing thing,

1023
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: and I touched the glowing thing, and then suddenly, I

1024
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't sure what else had happened, if

1025
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: anything else had happened. I just continued walking around that asteroid,

1026
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: but there was nothing below it, and I was like, huh,

1027
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what else I can do. Have I

1028
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: already reached the limit that I screw up, And I thought, well,

1029
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna do. I'm just gonna walk

1030
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: off the agency. What happens. The glowing thing I touched

1031
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: turned out to be a little uh platform maker, So

1032
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: if you if you step off into thin air, a

1033
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: platform appears and suddenly you're walking again. So then I

1034
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: started building a pathway to other asteroids that were way

1035
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 1: out of reach when I first started. And the interesting

1036
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 1: thing was for me, it was a game about discovery,

1037
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 1: figuring out what I could do, What were the limitations

1038
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: of this world? What were my abilities? I kept coming

1039
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: across other stuff and I would pick it up and

1040
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even really know what this does.

1041
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 1: And it would take me a while just through experimentation

1042
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 1: to figure it out, a little bit like like missed,

1043
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: but even more open in a way. Yeah. And in fact,

1044
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: I talked to the guy afterwards, the guy who developed it.

1045
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 1: He was he was the one who was guiding me through,

1046
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 1: and I said, it was really interesting, you know, having

1047
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: to learn like I saw that there was something interesting there,

1048
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: but I had no idea what it could do, and

1049
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 1: it would take me a while to figure it out.

1050
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: But once I figured it out, it was really interesting.

1051
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, that's exactly the experience I want people

1052
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: to have. Everyone who's behind you is not having that

1053
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: experience because they watched you play, so they know already

1054
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: what these things do because they saw you experimenting and

1055
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: figuring it out as but you had that moment where

1056
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: you're just oh, yeah and uh. So I was very

1057
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: happy that I was the first person in line, so

1058
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: I got to have the pure experience cool oh and uh.

1059
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: And then there was another one I have to talk about,

1060
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: Sony Move, Sony Move. When this was a game called Joust, Lauren,

1061
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: we need this game for the office. We need the

1062
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: game for the office because the competition would be insane.

1063
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: So Joust had nothing to do with a television, all right,

1064
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: you have the sony move. You are not looking at

1065
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: a display, so you know the sony move looks like

1066
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: a little wand with a ball at the and has

1067
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: a colorful led in it that can be different colors.

1068
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: Each person's wand would be lit up as a different color.

1069
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: Mine was orange, and it behaved as if it were

1070
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Speaker 1: a candle. And there's music playing on the system, so

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00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: you did have speakers playing uh music, and the music

1072
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: plays at different tempos, and when's playing at a slow speed,

1073
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: your candle is very susceptible to going out if you

1074
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: move too quickly, and it'll it'll sputter out, just like

1075
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: a real candle would. When the music picks up tempo,

1076
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: you can suddenly move a lot more quickly. And the

1077
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: object of the game is to extinguish the light on

1078
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 1: the other players moves before yours gets extinguished. So you

1079
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: are trying to hit to bat the other person's controller

1080
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: or to make them move their hand away fast enough

1081
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: to make it go out while you're preserving the light

1082
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: on yours. We had four people playing. I was second

1083
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: to last, so I survived all the way up until

1084
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 1: the very end. UH. And it was so much fun

1085
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: and I could just imagine the chaos that would erupt.

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00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that I want Holly Fried to body

1087
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: check me, so I don't would take Well, that's the

1088
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: thing is that she would just she would just sacrifice herself, right,

1089
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 1: she'd be like screw it. Boom and uh. And you know,

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00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: it was funny because as your as your candle was

1091
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: starting to become vulnerable, you would feel it vibrate and

1092
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: so you have to look at your light to make

1093
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 1: sure it was still on because if it went out,

1094
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 1: it would vibrate enough until you you're out of the game.

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00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: And then you know, on our system, you would remove

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00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:29,760
Speaker 1: yourself from play. But anyway, again a very independently developed

1097
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: game has nothing to do with traditional video games, but

1098
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 1: was a really interesting way of using the hardware and

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00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: a new unpredictable I think from the people who made

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00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: the hardware, I don't think they would have predicted this

1101
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: kind of gameplay. Oh that's fascinating. Um I you mentioned

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00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 1: something about SpaceX. Oh yeah, yeah, SpaceX had had a

1103
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: presence there, as did NASA and SpaceX. What they had

1104
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: was they had the dragon capsule on display so you

1105
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: can actually see it. Yeah, took a picture of it.

1106
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: Um so I got to see the space X capsule

1107
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: up there, and they had representatives who would tell you

1108
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: about the program, and that was really cool. It's neat

1109
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 1: to see it and and it's way smaller than you know.

1110
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 1: When when I sit there and I think about the

1111
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: Mars one mission that we had talked about and how

1112
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: they are planning on sending people up essentially using the

1113
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: SpaceX Dragon capsule. I took a look at that capsule

1114
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,479
Speaker 1: and I was like, I cannot imagine being in that

1115
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: thing for eight to ten months to get to Mars.

1116
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: I mean, but it was yes, yes, So that was

1117
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: really cool. And NASA the thing they had was they

1118
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: had pictures of the next rover. It's very similar to

1119
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: the Curiosity Rover. They also had a game that has

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00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: been out for a while for Xbox three sixty on

1121
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: Xbox Live Arcade. I think it's free to play where

1122
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: you use gestures as a connect game. So you use

1123
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: gestures to control the descent of the Curiosity Rover to

1124
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: the surface of Mars, and so the you know, the

1125
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: ideas that you're you're having to uh, you have to

1126
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: make the corrects that the Curiosity rover itself was making automatically,

1127
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 1: so when you have to adjust for the angle of

1128
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: attack that you have when you're coming in, that kind

1129
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: of stuff. Well, the neat thing was I taket to

1130
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: one of the NASA guys and he was telling me

1131
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: about the next proposed mission. This is proposed and that

1132
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: it has not been budgeted and approved yet. But the

1133
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: idea is, he said, you know, we've learned about as

1134
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: much as we can with the sensors that we have

1135
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: developed on Mars. What we really need to do is

1136
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: actually get some samples of Mars back into our hands,

1137
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: really investigate them properly. So how would we do that, Well,

1138
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: if you're Mars one, you'd send people there. But NASA

1139
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,439
Speaker 1: has a different plan. Their plan is send a rover

1140
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: that's like the Curiosity rover, that is going to collect

1141
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: data and send it back just like Curiosity rover is,

1142
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: but it's also going to collect samples and put them

1143
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: into a container that can withstand well actually beyond that

1144
00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: it gets super crazy. So the container can withstand the

1145
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: conditions on Mars for up to twenty years. The rover

1146
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: collects enough samples to fill the container, sets the container down,

1147
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: rolls away. Then NASA sends a second robot. This job

1148
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: is to land on the surface of Mars and collect

1149
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: the container, then right itself and use thrusters to thrust

1150
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: off of Mars and go into Martian orbit. Then they

1151
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: send a third robot whose job it is is to

1152
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: go into Martian orbit and retrieve the canister and then

1153
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: come back to Earth. So you're talking about three different

1154
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: missions to accomplish this goal. So you think about how

1155
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: complicated that curiosity rover landing was. They have to do

1156
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: that same landing again with this other rover plus two

1157
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: other really complex missions in order to achieve this. But

1158
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: they said this is the only way we could think

1159
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: of too, that were the most plausible way we could

1160
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: think of to get samples back to Earth. And when

1161
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: they were explaining this to me, I'm like, that is

1162
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: the coolest thing I have heard today. Yes, that's so exciting,

1163
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: that's that's awesome. Yeah. Now, so there was a lot

1164
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: of stuff at E three that wasn't directly tied to

1165
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: video games that I was really excited about. So I'm

1166
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: very glad. I went that's a very savvy marketing choice,

1167
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: I mean, because that's absolutely the crossover demographics. Yeah, you've

1168
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: got You've got people who are hardcore gamers. They're also

1169
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: the people who think that the thing like the Curiosity Rover.

1170
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: They're the ones who were watching that happen live, right.

1171
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: I mean I saw a lot of guys out there

1172
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: who were sporting the NASSA mohawks, so right, they're probably

1173
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: not thinking of as a NASA mohawk, but I did

1174
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: every time I saw it. But there were a lot

1175
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: of other great titles that I saw, things like titan Fall,

1176
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: where you're going to be a pilot that can jump

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00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: into a mech and then uh do some serious damage. Um.

1178
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: There were you know, other zombie games. Plants versus Zombies

1179
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: had a big presence out there. That's coming back for

1180
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: some more plant zombie fun. My wife will be thrilled

1181
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: about that. She loves those games. I like them too.

1182
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say that it's just my wife. I mean

1183
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: I like them too. She just loves them, um, you know.

1184
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 1: And there were a lot of other examples out there too,

1185
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: though hardly anyone was talking about Nintendo at all, which

1186
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,919
Speaker 1: is kind of sad. I mean, when you think about

1187
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: Nintendo's the reason why we have a video game industry

1188
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: right now. Because three after that video game crash, Nintendo

1189
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: was the company that was able that happened. They were

1190
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 1: able to bring out bring it back from the dead.

1191
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: I mean the video game industry, the home video game

1192
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: industry was dead after Atari essentially killed it. Atari and

1193
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: Colico Vision and Television, the flood of all those systems,

1194
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: the flood of terrible games killed the industry. Nintendo was

1195
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: able to come back and resurrect that industry. And did

1196
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: you see anything from you that you were excited about. Nothing? Yeah,

1197
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 1: I did go through the Nintendo area. I mean, they

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01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: they have another Mario Kart game. They've got another you know,

1199
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: we you Mario game. Uh. The game's look good, but

1200
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: it's a lot of the same stuff I've seen a lot,

1201
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: you know, and the wu integration gives it some new

1202
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: interesting twists with when you're using the Weiu controller as

1203
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: the screen in it. But a lot of the games

1204
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,439
Speaker 1: for the we you depend upon something that I don't

1205
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: do very often, which is have people over at my

1206
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,919
Speaker 1: house to play. Lauren and I are both the type

1207
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 1: of gamers who if we're playing with other people, chances

1208
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: are it's online right where we go on that multiplayer

1209
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: online mode. We don't tend to say I need three

1210
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: of my friends to come over so I can play

1211
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: Halo the way I want to play it. That's not

1212
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,439
Speaker 1: what Yeah, that's actually my favorite thing about Halo these

1213
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: days is not having don't have to literally land uh Xbox,

1214
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: I don't have to clean my house. You can just play. Well,

1215
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: now I will because now I'm going to have that

1216
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: connect sensor on there all the time. I don't want

1217
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: Microsoft thinking, Wow, what a messy place. Also, the ability

1218
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 1: to mute your friends should you have to in case

1219
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: someone is trash talking to an extent, you know, you

1220
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: can't really mute someone who's in the living room. Well,

1221
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 1: let me get you in touch with my chloroform guy

1222
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: and we'll talk, all right, anything else? Uh no, No,

1223
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 1: now that we've done a chloroform joke, I think that

1224
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: we're I think that we're all right, well just about

1225
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,439
Speaker 1: wrapped up. I'm glad a nat out on that one. Alright, guys.

1226
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 1: So anyways, that's the tech stuff. Look at E three.

1227
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 1: The future is going to be really interesting with video games,

1228
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 1: I think, I honestly, for my style of play, I

1229
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: think Microsoft is doing something very bold. I think that

1230
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: there are concerns. I mean, I the DRM issue is

1231
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: still very much concern that, you know, you don't want

1232
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 1: anything so intrusive that it actually ends up inspiring people

1233
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 1: to pirate games. I think that there are some things

1234
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: that Microsoft is going to have to look at and address.

1235
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: That being said, I still like the idea of digital

1236
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: delivery over physical media. It very much falls in line

1237
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: with the way I play games, so I do look

1238
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: forward to it, and they inescapably have a few titles

1239
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: that are just yeah, I mean, I gotta play Halo five.

1240
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: I can't not play Halo five. Um so yeah, It's

1241
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 1: not like I'm gonna abandon them. But I do understand

1242
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: why people are upset, and I think they're concerns are legitimate.

1243
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: So I don't want to give anyone that an implication.

1244
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to say so An He's good, Microsoft bad.

1245
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: It's way more complex than that. But I will say

1246
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: that I wasn't playing on buying a p S four

1247
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: and now I am. So if you had, if you

1248
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: had to make the choice today, if if they were

1249
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 1: both out today and I only had enough money to

1250
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: buy one of them, I'd buy the PS four. Yeah,

1251
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: that's yeah, well go team Go Team Sony Change. I

1252
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: know and and uh, I would still buy the Xbox

1253
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 1: One once I saved up enough money, you know from

1254
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: my paper route. Al Right, So guys, that wraps up

1255
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 1: our discussion of the three. If you have any suggestions

1256
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: for future episodes of tech Stuff, here's an idea, why

1257
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 1: not let us know about that? You can write us

1258
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 1: all right address is tech stuff at Discovery dot com

1259
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 1: or drop us a line on Facebook or Twitter or

1260
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: handle at both those locations is tech Stuff H. S. W.

1261
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:45,959
Speaker 1: Lauren and I will talk to you again really soon

1262
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: for more on this and bathans of other topics. Does

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