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Speaker 1: eleven a m. Eastern time. Oh Joe Yo. Judy gave
Speaker 1: to Baltimore Ravens some bulletin bored material head between two rivals.
Speaker 1: Judy was asked asked by reporters, what challenges do the
Speaker 1: Ravens secondary present. Judy responded, No challenges.
Speaker 2: Absolutely none.
Speaker 4: It is just a post saying what you expected me
Speaker 4: to say. Hey, I got a question for you and everybody.
Speaker 4: I know it's early, were just starting to show. Do
Speaker 4: me a favor, do a background check. Where in Jerry Judy.
Speaker 2: From uncle, oh, he from the bottom.
Speaker 4: Listen all the challenges we had. It started we was kids,
Speaker 4: We was in junior high. Our circumstances, our upbringing, we
Speaker 4: done made it to the NFL. Now, ain't no challenges.
Speaker 4: We go out there and do what we always do.
Speaker 4: We play ball. We play football and base on what
Speaker 4: we saw from the back end where the Ravens have
Speaker 4: to offer.
Speaker 5: It ain't no challenges.
Speaker 1: Thank you. You took the word right up about bible
Speaker 1: o joke. They did give up three hundred and ninety
Speaker 1: four passing yards. They gave up damn the two hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty in the fourth quarter long, So what challenges
Speaker 1: do he see?
Speaker 5: Talk to me, nice, come on that.
Speaker 1: Hey, this oxtail, this os this neck bone, this this collar,
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Speaker 2: That's what are you looking at that second?
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what you want banana pudding, sweet potato pot man.
Speaker 4: Ain't nothing I'm gonna tell you, and I'm listen. I
Speaker 4: know the game of football. I'm not I'm not a genius.
Speaker 4: I can't predict the future. But I know one thing
Speaker 4: that the Cleveland Brown do very well is they stopped
Speaker 4: to run very well. They have a phenomenal front for
Speaker 4: so I don't think I don't see Derrick Henry, you know,
Speaker 4: being able to do some of the things that he's
Speaker 4: done on most teams because the personnel the Cleveland Browns
Speaker 4: are built to stop the run.
Speaker 5: Hey, Jered Judy gonna have a day?
Speaker 1: Huh?
Speaker 2: He should raved two hundred and forty four yards passing
Speaker 2: the last season that was second worse than the NFL.
Speaker 1: Come on, now, well that dead lands right now this season,
Speaker 1: so they kind of picked up where they left off. Yes, sir, Now,
Speaker 1: I heard Kyle Hamilton say, we talked about this. I
Speaker 1: heard Marlon Humphrey saying, you know, our mentality is not
Speaker 1: where it needs to be. So Jared Judy is looking
Speaker 1: like what challenges did y'all see this Sunday night? Johsh
Speaker 1: Chap First of all, quarterback had all day to throw.
Speaker 1: Second of all, he gave up two I mean they
Speaker 1: average two forty four game.
Speaker 2: They gave up two fifty to the fourth quarter.
Speaker 5: A long, nasty work.
Speaker 2: So I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, we think the Baltimore Ravens is only
Speaker 1: one game, but their past defense leaves a lot to
Speaker 1: be desired. This notion that you cannot throw the ball
Speaker 1: on them is just not true, y'all.
Speaker 2: Might be talking about the Ravens offense.
Speaker 1: Now that was the If you to ask Miles Garrett
Speaker 1: or you to ask Denzel Ward what a problems do
Speaker 1: that offense post, they might have a different response because
Speaker 1: you gotta deal with Lamar Jackson, you gotta deal with
Speaker 1: a Dad Henry and you got Zay Flowers. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: a whole different issue. But defensively to Baltimore, that's not
Speaker 1: the two thousand Ravens. That's not Rod Woolson, that's not
Speaker 1: Ray Lewis, that's not a Sarah Goosey rest his soul.
Speaker 1: That's not Big saying Robernette Peter bowl where. That's not
Speaker 1: Mike mcquarie, that's.
Speaker 4: Not them at the fact they haven't been there for
Speaker 4: a while, their idea even on the defensive side of
Speaker 4: the ball anymore. Now they have some good players, Yes,
Speaker 4: there's that make that make really good plays at times,
Speaker 4: but the identity for the Baltimore Ravens is now shifted
Speaker 4: to the offense. Correct that running back, that quarterback, that
Speaker 4: special quarterback that they do have. Yes, Jerry Judy said
Speaker 4: exactly what he's supposed to say. What you wanted to say.
Speaker 5: Oh, yes, they pulled a challenge. No, absolutely not.
Speaker 4: He not Jerry Judy is not a quarterback. He's not
Speaker 4: going to say all the right things. He's not going
Speaker 4: to be politically correct when you ask him a pacific
Speaker 4: question about in position on his opponent the next upcoming Sunday.
Speaker 5: That's not what he does.
Speaker 1: Come on now, I mean I would like to say, oh,
Speaker 1: but y'all want me to lie to send my soul
Speaker 1: to hell from something trivilers that I will go to
Speaker 1: hell because I lied, and say, oh yeah, they pose
Speaker 1: a problem.
Speaker 2: They can get after your quarterback. Man, Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: He a call his wife for the phone, say hey, babe,
Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna be running little late, so go
Speaker 1: ahead and give me some of that General Joe Chicken,
Speaker 1: some of that MUMU got paying and.
Speaker 2: That shrimp fried rice. Get that for me.
Speaker 1: I'll be home, baby. I thought you was at the game.
Speaker 1: Ah yeah, baby, I'm just back here chilling. I mean,
Speaker 1: they ain't They ain't even close to me yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, come on.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 1: Look, we think the Ravens, oh Joe, we think the
Speaker 1: Ravens win. It's all said done. They're gonna be one
Speaker 1: of the teams in the FC. We believe there'll be
Speaker 1: one of the team that makes the playoffs. But you
Speaker 1: ask him a question after he just watched the team
Speaker 1: come back with almost four minutes left down by fifteen.
Speaker 1: They didn't get they didn't come back down by fifteen
Speaker 1: under four minutes to go running the foot by a
Speaker 1: running the football.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the team threw it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So hold on, hold on, hold on. How many
Speaker 5: points they scored in four minutes?
Speaker 2: They scored six?
Speaker 1: They scored they was down fifteen, So they' scored like,
Speaker 1: it's called twenty two points in the second quarter and
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter alone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called twenty eight in the second half.
Speaker 4: Hold did they do that by running the ball or
Speaker 4: throwing the throwing it? Okay, okay, I can't.
Speaker 1: Make sure we get this right. How many yards did
Speaker 1: Josh Allen throw for in the fourth quarter? He threw
Speaker 1: for more than two hundred. Now, they gave up two
Speaker 1: forty four per game, which was second worst in the NFL.
Speaker 1: That's what we know that that is not conjectured, that's
Speaker 1: not in you in those that's not speculation.
Speaker 2: That is factual information.
Speaker 4: And then then people will argue, people will argue where
Speaker 4: they were playing the Bills they were playing the Bills.
Speaker 4: They're not playing the Bills this week. They gave up
Speaker 4: an averager two forty four point one. Last year every
Speaker 4: game they played wasn't the Bills. Exactly there we go,
Speaker 4: can't close, can't close. I wish they had a gabble
Speaker 4: real quick.
Speaker 1: Duck and and if that was the case, Kyle Hamilton
Speaker 1: wouldn't said. We talked about this all off season. We
Speaker 1: talked about that coming into the season. What are you
Speaker 1: talking about? Being able to get off the field, being
Speaker 1: able to stop the pass? That's what you talked about.
Speaker 1: Marlon Humphrey talked about the mentality.
Speaker 4: So I see people in the chat talk about something.
Speaker 4: I know you ain't talk about the raven defense when
Speaker 4: the Bengals defense.
Speaker 1: Sorry, two fifty one. We'll address that at an appropriate time.
Speaker 2: Right now. We did it with you. See.
Speaker 1: I don't go, hey, o Joe, I don't go to
Speaker 1: a cancer a convention and talk.
Speaker 2: About what about diabetes?
Speaker 1: When I go to that diabetes convention, I'll talk about
Speaker 1: diabetes right now.
Speaker 2: Yes, we had the American Cancer Society. So I'm gonna
Speaker 2: deal with the cancers.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna deal with prostate and bladder and all those
Speaker 1: other types of cancers.
Speaker 2: I'm going with chat.
Speaker 1: Y'all know how we do we be We're fair with this,
Speaker 1: even though a lot of times you don't like what
Speaker 1: Ocho and I might have to say. We try to
Speaker 1: be as fair as possible. Y'all know the Ravens defense
Speaker 1: isn't very good.
Speaker 7: You know it.
Speaker 4: But again, but again, I'm giving every team grace. I'm
Speaker 4: giving every team grace because it's week one. As the
Speaker 4: season goes on. As the season progresses, team yell a
Speaker 4: little bit. The chemistry and which they play, Yes, counity,
Speaker 4: the cohesion. It's of defenses, Yeah, will get better as
Speaker 4: well as offenses. So I listen, I'm basing everything what
Speaker 4: you're saying. Jerry Judy and his comments saying that he
Speaker 4: had no challenge is based on.
Speaker 5: What he saw last week.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 5: The provers that are putting off, So based on what
Speaker 5: the Ravens gave up defensive last year.
Speaker 2: Correct? Correct? That is correct? That is correct.
Speaker 1: So with that being said, I don't think you know, look,
Speaker 1: I get it. Everybody say, you know you be politically correct.
Speaker 1: You don't give anybody any extra motivation. So let me
Speaker 1: get this straight. If I don't say anything, they're gonna
Speaker 1: forfeit the game and give us the win.
Speaker 2: So whether I say a little or lock, we still
Speaker 2: got a damn play.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, was definitely so.
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy now he just goes out there, does what
Speaker 1: he does, and but they need to generate more pressure
Speaker 1: than what they generated on Josh Allen.
Speaker 2: Now it's different.
Speaker 1: Maybe because you're you're scared because if you you run
Speaker 1: past Josh Allen, you're don't jump out the window he got.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not worried about that.
Speaker 1: With Joe Flacco, so there's a good chance they'll probably
Speaker 1: bring more pressure on Flacco than they would with Josh
Speaker 1: Allen because you don't want to want to run the
Speaker 1: risk of Josh Allen, you know, putting on his high
Speaker 1: step high step is shoes and getting up out of
Speaker 1: it on you. So I think that's more. You know,
Speaker 1: they posed two different types of situations. It's the same
Speaker 1: way with Lamar. You know, I want to put pressure
Speaker 1: on Lamar because I don't want him halftime, but I
Speaker 1: already know if I run past.
Speaker 7: Him, he gone.
Speaker 1: And the last thing I want to have do is
Speaker 1: for five guys running down field with their back to
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and he got the ball tup and he's
Speaker 1: already passed a lot of scrimmage. So it's gonna be
Speaker 1: very very interesting to see how this thing plays out. Look,
Speaker 1: there's no love loss. The Ravens are the old Cleveland Browns. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and now we got the new Cleveland Browns, and there's
Speaker 1: no love lost between these two organizations. Obviously, mister Modell
Speaker 1: when he left, he took the Ravens. They became the ball.
Speaker 1: He took the Browns that became the all the more Ravens.
Speaker 1: And this is where we are right now. We got
Speaker 1: a very very special guest joining us, Harry.
Speaker 5: Pro bowler, All Pro Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Champion, A many many of your vent with the Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. Harry is Levonte, David Levonte, how you doing, bron.
Speaker 5: You know, if I had your hands, I cut mine off.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: That's about it, Levont.
Speaker 2: That was a very That was a very tough game.
Speaker 1: You guys have you go down there and you take
Speaker 1: the lead, and now all of a sudden you get
Speaker 1: Atlanta coming back the other way. You're like, damn, we
Speaker 1: cannot give up a touchdown. We can't give up a
Speaker 1: touchdown In worst case scenario, we go into overtime, but
Speaker 1: we are not about to little this game in regulation.
Speaker 1: So when you come on the feeling a situation like that,
Speaker 1: you know the only thing that can beat you is
Speaker 1: a touchdown.
Speaker 2: What is your thought process?
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, I think the whole thing is just like
Speaker 6: I don't want to be in a like to piggyback
Speaker 6: on what you were saying. Man, we had the same
Speaker 6: situation going on in Russia. You know when we play
Speaker 6: them that Thursday night, same situation. We go up, they
Speaker 6: need a field goal and at that moment and then
Speaker 6: like at the same thing, man, we we don't want
Speaker 6: to give them a touchdown. We don't want to give
Speaker 6: them a touchdown. Adverse, we can make kick a field
Speaker 6: goal and go overtime. We like our chances. But in
Speaker 6: that moment, man, all I just trying to say, just man,
Speaker 6: stay calm. You know what I'm saying, Stay calm, and uh,
Speaker 6: somebody just got to make a play at the end
Speaker 6: of the day, you know what I'm saying, Like, we
Speaker 6: don't want to give up no chunks, you know, the
Speaker 6: typical cheap deep you know what I'm saying, They stay focus,
Speaker 6: keep everything in front of you. Somebody make you get
Speaker 6: the ball in bounce, you know, tackle them. Everybody got
Speaker 6: a rally and everybody just got to be on the
Speaker 6: same page.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 6: Like I've been in part of a lot of situations
Speaker 6: where it happened in the other and the other way around.
Speaker 6: So you know what I'm saying, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 7: I hate that feeling to being part of being part
Speaker 7: of that stuff.
Speaker 6: So you know, I feel like we got a team
Speaker 6: that kind of like understand that for the most part.
Speaker 7: So you know, uh, we liked our.
Speaker 6: Chances and we was able to do that. You know,
Speaker 6: they took a couple of shots towards the end and
Speaker 6: uh landed in our favor.
Speaker 5: Hey, how's how's the state of the team right now?
Speaker 4: One thing you always want to do as a team,
Speaker 4: you want to start fast, not only start fast, but
Speaker 4: to get it a visional win against the opponent early off,
Speaker 4: to get that to get that out the way.
Speaker 5: How's the team feeling? I know you guys probably had
Speaker 5: practice day with it being Wednesday. How's it right?
Speaker 7: The feeling everybody good? Man?
Speaker 6: You know, I feel like everybody you know, we got
Speaker 6: we had an extra day to day because we played
Speaker 6: this week so yeah, so we had to a little
Speaker 6: extra dattle.
Speaker 2: Easy day.
Speaker 7: Easy, Yeah, you had a little easy day. Both know
Speaker 7: how to work in those days for us, but uh,
Speaker 7: it was it was love to day. Man.
Speaker 6: All we did was just kind of getting ahead start
Speaker 6: on Houston. But uh, man, to ask you a question,
Speaker 6: you know it's big.
Speaker 7: It's big. You know, the chatter about you.
Speaker 6: Know, who's going to win the Vision whatever, Us or
Speaker 6: Atlanta has been in the back and forth thing. But
Speaker 6: for us to get the upper hand for the first
Speaker 6: game of the year, it was real big. You know,
Speaker 6: we know they're a tough point. You know they got
Speaker 6: weapons all across the field. But for us, you know,
Speaker 6: the mirales real good. You know, everybody's health, everybody ready
Speaker 6: to go, everybody energetic, and they feel like.
Speaker 7: We got a lot more wins left in us. Love.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about your quarterback because he's gotten better and
Speaker 1: better and better from the first year to the second year.
Speaker 1: And herr, he is laying the ball game when the
Speaker 1: rubber needs to meet the rod. And this is how
Speaker 1: we measure quarterbacks. How calm can you be under pressure?
Speaker 1: When the pressure goes up? Can your blood pressure go down?
Speaker 1: And he's answered the Bill For you, guys, what have
Speaker 1: you seen from the first moment that he arrived at
Speaker 1: one Buck Place.
Speaker 2: I don't know what you call I just said that,
Speaker 2: but I do know what you call it.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying from the very first time that he
Speaker 1: stepped foot in your building to what you see this product.
Speaker 2: Now, what is the biggest difference that you noticed in
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield?
Speaker 6: The first thing I noticed, man, when he first came
Speaker 6: in the building, he just was like coming into a
Speaker 6: locker room that you know, obviously was already established.
Speaker 7: You know, we had some guys in the locker room
Speaker 7: before and then we was a winning team.
Speaker 6: So he was coming in basically saying, like, man, from
Speaker 6: my point of view, saying, I got some big shoes
Speaker 6: to feel, so officers, just come in and do my
Speaker 6: job and do what I'm supposed to do and let
Speaker 6: these guys to set me in.
Speaker 7: And now that's exactly what we did. Man.
Speaker 6: The first thing we did was just told man, all
Speaker 6: we need to do is just be yourself. You know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, Just be Baker Mayfield that we know
Speaker 6: in love, the one who just go out there and
Speaker 6: have fun like a kid, make players when he make
Speaker 6: plays just do what you do everything else to take
Speaker 6: care of yourself.
Speaker 7: And you see that. Man, I love that for him.
Speaker 6: Man, he go out there, he having fun with he
Speaker 6: just playing the game that he loved, playing like a
Speaker 6: kid on the playground.
Speaker 7: Man, that's what we want.
Speaker 6: Man, you know what I'm saying, Like, we got his
Speaker 6: back and he knows that, and I think that's what
Speaker 6: gives him, you know, the confidence to go out there
Speaker 6: and make the players that he makes. And like you said, man,
Speaker 6: he's been in the game, win and drives for us,
Speaker 6: you know past you know, three years and then.
Speaker 7: Opening the season with one's real big man.
Speaker 6: His confidence is out the roof and uh, he know
Speaker 6: he got guys the guy back.
Speaker 1: Let me follow this with don't Joe, Yeah, you was
Speaker 1: on this Super Bowl team when Brady walked into the building.
Speaker 2: Brady is a.
Speaker 1: Very intense guy. You gonna get this dich right practice.
Speaker 1: It ain't no okay, no, we're good. No, we're not good.
Speaker 1: Run that issue being Brady. If the type of guy's
Speaker 1: gonna keep his foot on your neck, what do you
Speaker 1: what is the biggest difference between what you see from
Speaker 1: Tom and what you see from Baker.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 6: That you say that because I seen every Tom day
Speaker 6: in the day out like if it ain't done right now,
Speaker 6: now we're gonna get this right. You're gonna get these
Speaker 6: ten yards. You're gonna run us outright to correct.
Speaker 7: Way, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: And I wen remember like a story man Vida, you
Speaker 6: know Vda these dude us Vida in the goal line
Speaker 6: situation and Vida had to run a little.
Speaker 7: Flat ut yea, and yeah he ain't get it right.
Speaker 6: So him a tone was out there at the practice
Speaker 6: practicing on it, like like now we gotta get this right.
Speaker 7: So it's like it's crazy that you say that.
Speaker 6: But difference between those guys man, you know, Uh, Tom
Speaker 6: is a you know, hardcore guy, very passionate you know
Speaker 6: about it. You don't want everything to be Baker just
Speaker 6: yeah professionalists and Baker you know he just talking through it.
Speaker 6: He was Baker just cool, come and collected, just talking
Speaker 6: through it.
Speaker 7: You know, I want you to do it like this,
Speaker 7: I think this is right here and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: So you know that's kind of stuff that I see,
Speaker 6: you know, But I do love that both of them are.
Speaker 7: Very passionate about the game. Man.
Speaker 6: Uh, you know, Baker like his competitive nature comes out,
Speaker 6: you know in practice. You see you know, the banter
Speaker 6: back and forth and you know, practice and stuff. And
Speaker 6: then Tom the same way. I remember when Tom first
Speaker 6: came in and said, man, don't cut me no slack,
Speaker 6: just because y'all see me as Tom Brady.
Speaker 7: Man, y'all, man treat me just like the guys in
Speaker 7: the locker room.
Speaker 6: You see me messing up me And uh, that's something
Speaker 6: I respected about Tom because you know, outside looking at
Speaker 6: him like, man's ain't for to say nothing. Man, I'm
Speaker 6: lett exactly exactly exactly.
Speaker 7: But but he like he like.
Speaker 6: Nah, man, no, he said. They said, nah, man, we're
Speaker 6: all trying to get better here. If you can make
Speaker 6: a play on the ball, make a player on the ball.
Speaker 4: I think I love Baker obviously from the from from
Speaker 4: the outside watching it and the quarterback is what he
Speaker 4: was able to do at Oklahoma, and this is a
Speaker 4: testament to I think most time when it comes to quarterback,
Speaker 4: I think situational circumstance.
Speaker 5: Is very important. He was in Cleveland things in workout.
Speaker 5: He went to Carolina, he went to the Ram Thing
Speaker 5: to workout.
Speaker 4: Coming to Tampa Bay at an organization that's coming off
Speaker 4: of Super Bowl, when having time Brady and having a
Speaker 4: feeling and having the weapons around you, Mike, Mike Evans, Godwin.
Speaker 5: Now you've got to book up.
Speaker 4: You know, Irvin, And I think things are really yelling
Speaker 4: for you guys, and you guys are on the right
Speaker 4: path to probably actually having a chance not the only
Speaker 4: winning the division, but maybe end up also on the
Speaker 4: long end, in the back end, not there in San Francisco,
Speaker 4: especially if you guys on the deepensive side of the ball.
Speaker 4: What you need to do, especially showing you guys had
Speaker 4: week one, I think you find because offense, I think
Speaker 4: is gonna take care of his business.
Speaker 5: The addition it God damn man, he's special.
Speaker 7: Man. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I always say, man,
Speaker 7: here remind me coming in as a rookie. Here, remind me.
Speaker 6: And Chris Gone, when Chris Gold came in, you know,
Speaker 6: even though Chris was in a different situationation, but like
Speaker 6: just the mental factor, the maturity, you know, just him,
Speaker 6: you know, you know, just picking vets out, asking questions
Speaker 6: and then just being far on and what usually more
Speaker 6: than what usually rookies you see from the rookies. So
Speaker 6: I just seen Mecca coming in they want working, not
Speaker 6: you know, putting his head down and working and grinding. Man,
Speaker 6: and uh, it's showing. You know, it's been it's been
Speaker 6: like that since day one, since Rookie Minnie camp. I
Speaker 6: remember seeing clips of them in Rookie Minnie camp and
Speaker 6: I'm just seeing him doing them like dang like and
Speaker 6: you know, coaches calling me like, man, we got somewhere
Speaker 6: with the meccan and I'm like, okay, I can't wait
Speaker 6: to see it.
Speaker 7: And uh soon I stepped foot out there for training camp,
Speaker 7: I'm like, this kid here, he's some great things. Yeah,
Speaker 7: he wanted them one, you know, he say down at
Speaker 7: the crib, he wanted them on. You know, you know
Speaker 7: who they are.
Speaker 2: The uh you and Vita Uh basically the two main staates.
Speaker 1: Dean is still there, but you guys are the perennial
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls and all pro players.
Speaker 2: What is it been like?
Speaker 1: Because now there once upon a time, you know, you
Speaker 1: the young buck. Now you're the ilder States one of
Speaker 1: that defense. You got to see you and be the
Speaker 1: mail got to see on y'all chips. It's y'all job.
Speaker 1: You know, Bowl's gonna call it, but it's y'all job
Speaker 1: to make sure those those nine other guys are where
Speaker 1: they're supposed to be, hold them guys accountable, make sure
Speaker 1: nobody's trying to play hebo hero ball. We are the
Speaker 1: sum of these parts. No one is greater. How have
Speaker 1: you been able to embrace you and be theveil? Been
Speaker 1: able to embridge this role?
Speaker 6: It's been, Uh, it's been you know, at the beginning,
Speaker 6: it's been challenging and just trying to see how you can,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 7: Interact with different people. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Different people take different you know, constructive criticism, different ways.
Speaker 6: But you know I feel like, uh, which coach bowles Man.
Speaker 6: You know, Coach bowles Man, he give you the freedom,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. He gives you the freedom.
Speaker 6: How you handle it? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: You do what you gotta do to get the guys going.
Speaker 6: And then a lot of times even in the game
Speaker 6: time situations like I tell V to age, you got
Speaker 6: the front end, I take care of the back end.
Speaker 6: You tell them what to do, and I got the
Speaker 6: back right here. Y'all control that up front. You see something,
Speaker 6: take control over it. And I see something in the
Speaker 6: back end, I take control of it. And then Bulls
Speaker 6: give us that freedom. And that's one thing that I
Speaker 6: really love about it because you know, he put on
Speaker 6: his players and then.
Speaker 2: Then y'all got Winfield Jr. In the back end.
Speaker 4: For y'all, we got wet at all three levels level exactly.
Speaker 6: And then Coach Bowls trust all us to get everything,
Speaker 6: get everybody on the same page.
Speaker 7: You get everything handled.
Speaker 6: You know, it's been like in the game the other day,
Speaker 6: you know when uh, when they scored the first down,
Speaker 6: third place, boy Bay.
Speaker 7: Say hey, y'all got y'all got y'all take care of take.
Speaker 6: You know that that stuff like that don't happen, so
Speaker 6: go ahead and take care of it. And it was like, yeah,
Speaker 6: we got your coach, and you know, so that's the
Speaker 6: stuff that you know, kind of brings confidence to us,
Speaker 6: knowing that you know, he called defense. But in the day,
Speaker 6: you know, y'all responsible for exactly exactly the screen exactly exactly.
Speaker 6: So he do stuff like that. Man, they give us
Speaker 6: all the comfortents Like you said, man via take care
Speaker 6: the front end, I take care of the middle. When
Speaker 6: the antoine tweets, take care of the back end. So
Speaker 6: we all got great report.
Speaker 4: I have one question. Obviously, I know the season already started.
Speaker 4: You guys are coming when coming up with w you
Speaker 4: play Monday night? But I have one question. I want
Speaker 4: to go back to training camp real quickly. You need
Speaker 4: a better inside uh yeah, inside that building. Is there
Speaker 4: anything that that we could have done. I'm not part
Speaker 4: of the team. I'm just saying we as it just
Speaker 4: being a player in journal. Is there anything that we
Speaker 4: could have done better to make sure brother Desmond who
Speaker 4: didn't get op playing training camp.
Speaker 5: He's not on the field now, he's not a part
Speaker 5: of the team.
Speaker 4: Is there anything that you guys could have done a
Speaker 4: little better to get him into shape? And I think
Speaker 4: he would have been a great addition defensively, especially on
Speaker 4: first and second down.
Speaker 5: Being able to stop the run and just clogging that up.
Speaker 4: I'm just thinking about, you know, having him beat the
Speaker 4: VEYA and you being able to roam freely taking up
Speaker 4: to A, taking up to the A and B gaps.
Speaker 5: Anything that could have been done, I'm not.
Speaker 7: Curious, you know me sure?
Speaker 6: Me being in linebacker, I love to play behind it
Speaker 6: boys to take up all the blockers for me.
Speaker 7: Unfortunate push. Yeah, that was the whole plan behind it too.
Speaker 7: I think you put so we can start. But uh, man,
Speaker 7: just an unfortunate situation. Man.
Speaker 6: Everybody loved in the locker room, and a lot of
Speaker 6: guys was pushing them, even though video was pushing the
Speaker 6: getting to get on the right track.
Speaker 7: But they were just unfortunate. Man.
Speaker 6: He didn't he wasn't able to meet the goal that
Speaker 6: he was.
Speaker 7: Supposed to meet.
Speaker 6: And then uh, at the end of the day, I
Speaker 6: think it was more of a medical, medical concerned type thing,
Speaker 6: a medical type thing that was going on. I don't
Speaker 6: know the full details, but you know, everybody you know
Speaker 6: loved it.
Speaker 7: The man, he was working his off to get there.
Speaker 7: I'll tell you.
Speaker 6: I'll tell you that I see him every day just grinding,
Speaker 6: grind and grind and trying to.
Speaker 7: Get out there.
Speaker 6: And uh, you know, he hopefully God gives him another
Speaker 6: chance to be able to take the opportunity. And I
Speaker 6: think he gonna see it once he do get the opportunity.
Speaker 1: I hope they told him say, look, we hey, we'll
Speaker 1: give you another chance next year, but we need you down,
Speaker 1: we need you down under four twenty and we can
Speaker 1: work with you. You're still you know, four fifty. That's
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't realize.
Speaker 2: How think about it.
Speaker 1: Vita Veil is three to fifty chat, y'all see how
Speaker 1: big Vita a is.
Speaker 2: He's one hundred pounds heavier than Beata Veil. So let
Speaker 2: that sink in.
Speaker 1: He's one hundred one hundred, one zero zero bigger than
Speaker 1: beat the veil. Right, So, and that's what I was
Speaker 1: telling you said, No, it's it's a medical issue now
Speaker 1: because the last thing you want to happen is somebody
Speaker 1: because everybody says.
Speaker 2: Y'all know that he was too big to be out
Speaker 2: there in the hot sun.
Speaker 7: And Tampa see yeah, and then.
Speaker 1: You got a lawsuit on your hands, and Tampa and
Speaker 1: the NFL don't want to deal with that. So I
Speaker 1: told him, Look, we had him on the show, and
Speaker 1: now we interviewed him and say, man, I do whatever
Speaker 1: it takes in order to make a robin, you know,
Speaker 1: let my dream, you know, live out my dream. But
Speaker 1: like you said, it just what it just wasn't in
Speaker 1: the cards now, not to say maybe a year from
Speaker 1: now he gets a whole he gets a whole year. Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm going down to the Duke clinic. I'mna go down
Speaker 1: and saying, man, what y'all got for me. Man, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna going down. Hey, I gotta get this up off
Speaker 1: me because I don't care if I don't play, But
Speaker 1: one snap, I want my mom my, grandma, want my
Speaker 1: family to see me in an NFL uniform in an
Speaker 1: NFL game one time. That that might be all that
Speaker 1: in the cars. Everybody ain't gonna have a ten, fifteen,
Speaker 1: twenty year career. Sometimes it might be a game, Sometimes
Speaker 1: it might be six games, sometimes it might be a year.
Speaker 1: But my mom my family is gonna see me with
Speaker 1: an NFL uniform in a real NFL game. Like Luther
Speaker 1: used to say, if it's only for one night, if
Speaker 1: it's only for one.
Speaker 6: Game, yeah, I agree with you whole Hartley man, And
Speaker 6: he's from around the way. He went to I believe
Speaker 6: he went to Arwood. Yeah, so he was from around
Speaker 6: the area. So you know, he years to have a
Speaker 6: friends and family come to the president and stuff like that.
Speaker 7: So I just saw it in him too, man, Like
Speaker 7: he was real, Like.
Speaker 6: You could tell he was hurt, hurt by you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, because you know, on back home playing
Speaker 6: for you know, probably the childhood team that he grew
Speaker 6: up rooming for and just to be able to you know,
Speaker 6: be you know in the NFL locker room, man, and
Speaker 6: just make a dream come true. Man. I'm sure eventually
Speaker 6: it happened for him, man, But like you said, man,
Speaker 6: just wasn't the right time to him, right.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing, because think about it, if somebody
Speaker 1: like we were so poor we grow up. We used
Speaker 1: to go to the fast food restaurant to watch other
Speaker 1: people eat.
Speaker 2: We couldn't. We just we just about that.
Speaker 1: We just watch other people as him he okay, he's undrafted,
Speaker 1: but here he is. He got a uniform on and everything,
Speaker 1: but he can't practice, he can't participate. You remember what
Speaker 1: we used to go and you ain't going outside. You
Speaker 1: ain't doing what you're supposed to. If you watch the kids,
Speaker 1: you watch the kid through the window play, or you
Speaker 1: one at school and you watching all the other kids play,
Speaker 1: and you just look it.
Speaker 6: At just like that, trying to make you mak your parents,
Speaker 6: make your parents steel bad.
Speaker 2: Can I can I go out that? Boy? Don't you
Speaker 2: ask me? Can you go out there? No more?
Speaker 4: Get back, get back on track. Obviously, Monday night against
Speaker 4: Houston Texans. I'm sure if you watch Field or not,
Speaker 4: but if you have, Yeah, what challenges do you see
Speaker 4: from CBS offense that you guys have to be worried about?
Speaker 6: Oh, man, CJ getting the ball out quick? Man, he
Speaker 6: uh getting the ball out quick, getting into his playmakers
Speaker 6: they use in.
Speaker 7: Dawn shows a lot.
Speaker 6: Nico obviously playmaker man, somebody who you gotta watch out for.
Speaker 6: I remember a couple of years ago, Man, we played
Speaker 6: CJ his rookie, and he lit us up, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, So we already know what he's capable of.
Speaker 6: And then they got Nick Chubb and backfield, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, improven vet you know, a hard runner
Speaker 6: you know, could hurt you any any way, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So for us, man, it's just all
Speaker 6: about discipline. When you're playing guys like this. Football teams
Speaker 6: like this, Uh, they they they run stuff the you know,
Speaker 6: to try to get you out of position to make
Speaker 6: you hurt yourself. So you just got to be able
Speaker 6: to stay disciplined and stay on track for four quarters.
Speaker 6: And uh, you know you tell it as the defense man.
Speaker 6: These type of games you want to play, you know
Speaker 6: it is be you just gotta be able to stop it.
Speaker 1: Bante you played against. You know, look, you've been in
Speaker 1: the league. Damn there decade. Now, how long have you
Speaker 1: been in the league. What is your tenth year?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 7: This is fourteen?
Speaker 2: Yo, hold on, like, holdo on. You moving like this
Speaker 2: and you're fourteen.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's fourteenth for me.
Speaker 1: God been blessing me. Man, bro I thought it. I
Speaker 1: thought it was ten. I was like, oh man, he
Speaker 1: moveing like that. But it just goes to show you.
Speaker 1: And you played against a lot of different backs. Who's
Speaker 1: some of the toughest backs. Who's some of the you know,
Speaker 1: the tight ends, because really you're known as a coverage linebacker,
Speaker 1: which aren't very many of those. Most guys you either
Speaker 1: rush the plaster or you stop to run. You know,
Speaker 1: you're really known as a coverage linebacker. Yes, you're a
Speaker 1: sure tackler, but you're known as a coverage linebacker. Who's
Speaker 1: some of the better tight ends that you faced. Obviously
Speaker 1: you did announce standing job dealing with Kelson the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: But the running backs that you had.
Speaker 6: To face, Yeah, running backs, man, come to I remember
Speaker 6: Roshawn was tough, tough to go against. And then uh
Speaker 6: in my division, Man, I had Darren spros couple of years.
Speaker 7: That was that I was a headache oh man.
Speaker 6: Uh And then you know obviously coming along, you know
Speaker 6: I had go against Christian McCaffrey and A k Yeah,
Speaker 6: those two, those two dudes a headaches, man. And when
Speaker 6: I first came in to German, I was always to
Speaker 6: play against Reggie Bush, you know. And I got a
Speaker 6: chance to play with the player against of my second
Speaker 6: year old he was in Detroit.
Speaker 7: That was cool. Frank Franky g was ahead. Uh man.
Speaker 6: A lot of guys like when you when you when
Speaker 6: when you're going against these dudes, you kind of like
Speaker 6: you give them their respect, and then when you're playing them,
Speaker 6: you know, like okay, I respect.
Speaker 7: You, but you know it is what it is about
Speaker 7: to play.
Speaker 6: But like it's like I understand, you understand why you
Speaker 6: respect these dudes.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like, see if I was a defensive player and I
Speaker 1: played against a great run.
Speaker 2: I'm tackling.
Speaker 6: Like a large like a lot of people used to
Speaker 6: always say about Frank, like he wasn't that big, but
Speaker 6: he ran behind, you know what I'm saying. Like that
Speaker 6: was like that was something I had to kind of
Speaker 6: like get accustomed to and stuff like that. I had
Speaker 6: to get up on him a little bit. But Marshawn
Speaker 6: was a tough to go against. Marshawn was a guy
Speaker 6: who like when you hit him and you like you
Speaker 6: think you got a good hit on him, and you
Speaker 6: talking trash to him, like oh yeah, come on, like
Speaker 6: he get it more like dangn Like I'm thinking I'm
Speaker 6: supposed to be you know, like break you down a
Speaker 6: little bit.
Speaker 2: But nah, he wan't.
Speaker 7: He want more?
Speaker 2: You play? Can't hear me yet? I played?
Speaker 7: Can't hear you play? Can't hear you? Man?
Speaker 6: Can't hear He is a different animal, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. He's a dude who, like you don't know
Speaker 6: what to expect. Man, you don't know what to expect
Speaker 6: because like he's a big dude and you want him
Speaker 6: to kind of like drop it on you, but you
Speaker 6: prepare for that. But then he got these little swift
Speaker 6: little moves and stuff on and stuff like that.
Speaker 7: Got good feet, good feet for a big guy.
Speaker 6: Uh, David Montgomery or somebody who I got a lot
Speaker 6: of respect for Detroit who's a big guy but got
Speaker 6: wonderful feet.
Speaker 7: Who else out there, man, I'll see you gives these.
Speaker 6: Young dudes they're taking over the.
Speaker 1: Hen forget people because nobody wants to square him up.
Speaker 1: So everybody wants to get your side. And so now
Speaker 1: he munched you in your face and on your head
Speaker 1: to the ground because I really ain't trying to look bro,
Speaker 1: you got it six three two fifty.
Speaker 6: You go okay and move and move and moving the
Speaker 6: way moving to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not trying to get no cussion.
Speaker 4: The best thing you can do with twenty two man,
Speaker 4: you gotta catch him going east and west because you
Speaker 4: get you catch you catch.
Speaker 7: Him going nor well.
Speaker 1: The problems that they have made, they don't figured it out.
Speaker 1: He's really not an offset I back. He's an old
Speaker 1: school I back with a full back. Or you put
Speaker 1: a tight end in the spot, you toss it to
Speaker 1: it and say, hey, you pick your whole. You can't
Speaker 1: whatever you want to pick it now. You let him
Speaker 1: because you know, like Jamir Gibb, you can put him
Speaker 1: in the offset. You can put him in the off
Speaker 1: seat and run his own read with him. That's not
Speaker 1: what Derrick Henry is. Dereck Henry is an old school
Speaker 1: seventies eighties I back. You talk it to him, you
Speaker 1: handed to him, it's his son. Find your whole. Let men,
Speaker 1: let we will get you out of here on this
Speaker 1: without fourteen years? How much lunger do you want to play?
Speaker 1: And then when you go up in there and you
Speaker 1: see Leroy Selman, you see Derek Brooks, you see Warren Sapp,
Speaker 1: you see war do you see some of the greats
Speaker 1: up in their number that's in that stadium, and you think, like, damn,
Speaker 1: one day that that's gonna be your boy, Your boy
Speaker 1: gonna be up in there.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Man, It's incredible man, just because like this year is
Speaker 6: the fiftieth season of the Old Yeah, a lot of guys. Yeah,
Speaker 6: so we honoring a lot of guys that played through
Speaker 6: the organization.
Speaker 7: And then like when you break it down and.
Speaker 6: They show all the people, you just be like like Dann,
Speaker 6: he like this guy this, and like for me, you know,
Speaker 6: I take it all land because I'm basically following these
Speaker 6: guys footsteps. I know what these guys been through. And
Speaker 6: see these guys come back and then you know, like
Speaker 6: come through and show.
Speaker 7: Love like that.
Speaker 6: Stuff like that is pretty cool man, especially dB dB
Speaker 6: always coming back right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got you a great guy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah man, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean, shoot, when I first got hit at the
Speaker 6: first person, they say, hey, you gotta know they gotta
Speaker 6: live up to fifty five legacy. I'm like, But the
Speaker 6: thing about like every thinking I like about dB man
Speaker 6: the first time. Once soon as I got drafted, as
Speaker 6: soon as I got the tamp of man, he hit
Speaker 6: me up, Hey, let's go have lunch.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. I wasn't expecting that, you
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. So when when we.
Speaker 6: Had our little lunch, he told me, man, I know
Speaker 6: a lot of people kind of like expecting you to
Speaker 6: do this and that. But man, I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 6: like this, man, just be yourself. Bro be yourself and
Speaker 6: let everything else take care of itself. You know who
Speaker 6: you are as a football player. And once you once
Speaker 6: you be yourself everything and take care of himself. And
Speaker 6: then he made me pay team are you gonna play?
Speaker 1: Look, because there is no senior circuit for the NFL,
Speaker 1: because once this thing over and you're never gonna be
Speaker 1: able to find what you left in that locker room,
Speaker 1: the practices, the locker room, the plane rid, the bus ride.
Speaker 1: How much longer? How much how much long would you got?
Speaker 1: How much longer do you want to play?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 6: Yeah, to be honest with you, man, I thought I
Speaker 6: was done two years ago.
Speaker 7: You know, when we played a Detroit divisional game.
Speaker 6: You know, that was a long season, you know, and
Speaker 6: I ain't never felt like that for a season in
Speaker 6: my whole entire career. You know, I was hurting, you know,
Speaker 6: body tie exhausted. And then you know, out of nowhere,
Speaker 6: you know, I got an extribution energy. So I ended
Speaker 6: up coming back for year thirteen. And then you know,
Speaker 6: this past year, I was dealing with at little something, uh,
Speaker 6: you know, injury wise, and I tried to see how
Speaker 6: it felt, and then so behold, you know, good Lord
Speaker 6: blessed me started feeling good, and I was like, okay,
Speaker 6: I'll give it another try. So you know, right now, man,
Speaker 6: I'm just taking it in a moment, bro, I'm taking
Speaker 6: in the moment.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 6: You know, I love the gameootball. I'm not just I
Speaker 6: just don't play the game like. I actually genuinely love
Speaker 6: the game. I'm a fan of football, so like just
Speaker 6: to be around of it, being around it, you know,
Speaker 6: the relationship that I can deal with it. You know,
Speaker 6: I'm just trying to do that to the best of
Speaker 6: my ability. But you know, I'm gonna just see how
Speaker 6: this year go and uh and go from there. You
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: It's been real, you know, definitely uh enjoyable ride. Man.
Speaker 6: But like my coach, coach Foot always say, man, hey,
Speaker 6: your retirement life longer than your football.
Speaker 2: You can't.
Speaker 1: Hey, you know that contract is stench and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, I.
Speaker 7: Don't much exactly much better.
Speaker 5: The fact that you're talking about longevity.
Speaker 4: If you got, if you got at this point, if
Speaker 4: you're feeling good right now, get hold on. I can
Speaker 4: I can extend your career another five. I can get
Speaker 4: you to twenty. I can get to the twenty. I
Speaker 4: have nutritional program I can.
Speaker 7: Put we're going down.
Speaker 5: Week week the week, week the week. I could extend
Speaker 5: your career another five years.
Speaker 4: Make sure there's no injuries, and you know, get twenty
Speaker 4: and just give me the credit.
Speaker 5: Twenty dollars a week. That ain't nothing, you know, and
Speaker 5: and I got you Just let me know.
Speaker 7: Oh Joe, ain't I ain't twenty one, twenty two no more. Man,
Speaker 7: that stuff's not thank you.
Speaker 5: It's not gonna say I gotta I got a healthy
Speaker 5: battle a healthy. Medium of two things.
Speaker 4: I don't I listen, listen, I do it in three
Speaker 4: cycles and cycles the end of the season, the season,
Speaker 4: and then the back end of the season.
Speaker 5: And man, before you know you look up, you're being
Speaker 5: your twenty.
Speaker 2: One he doing three cycles. Break was lunch and dinner.
Speaker 5: Hey y'all play, y'all play Monday in Tampa.
Speaker 2: And man, both games on the road.
Speaker 6: A yeah, both on the road, man, too tough opponents game.
Speaker 6: Uh the week after that we played Jets.
Speaker 2: We did it.
Speaker 5: Man, that's if we get a ticket. I drive through
Speaker 5: from Miami. I just need one.
Speaker 7: You know, I got you for.
Speaker 1: Man, Lev thanks for stopping by. Begivenings a few moments
Speaker 1: of your time. Continue success, rest the luck, stay healthy,
Speaker 1: and guys, when you guys go where you think you're
Speaker 1: gonna go, stop back by and tell us how you
Speaker 1: did it.
Speaker 7: Yes, sir, appreciate you guys.
Speaker 2: Man, God bless you.
Speaker 7: Thanks sir.
Speaker 1: Lavonte David the outstanding All Pro linebacker from the Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. Damn time flying. I had no idea, my man,
Speaker 1: I don't know a fourteen hell no, hell I thought
Speaker 1: it was what I thought it was. I thought it
Speaker 1: was a decade.
Speaker 5: You know how long fourteen is as a life backer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as a linebacker. I mean, you know what, guys,
Speaker 1: you know what, Ojo. I think the thing is because
Speaker 1: guys are not hitting like they did. What you know,
Speaker 1: Ray played seventeen, say, I'll played twenty. Clay Matthews played
Speaker 1: like eighteen nineteen. But I think I think now oo,
Speaker 1: because guys are not hitting in practice.
Speaker 5: Like we used to do outside of the games.
Speaker 1: Right, they're taking care of the guys in training camp.
Speaker 1: He probably you know, I'm saying the training camp.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 1: The old guys used to have the afternoons off, so
Speaker 1: you know, you played, you know, your put screamy practice
Speaker 1: in the morning, and then you took the afternoon off.
Speaker 1: You got your little cardio in and things like that.
Speaker 1: So guys are doing a better job of preserving themselves.
Speaker 1: And now they got they got cryo, they got laser therapy,
Speaker 1: they got PT, they got oh chotter.
Speaker 4: In fact, matter of fact, I'm glad you just said that.
Speaker 4: When's the last time you've been inside the Broncos facility.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's been a minute.
Speaker 4: I went inside the Bengal facility when I was there
Speaker 4: Thursday night for the practice yeah, they got everything. Yeah,
Speaker 4: oh yeah, they got when it when it, when it
Speaker 4: comes to recovery and taking care of your body, they
Speaker 4: got everything. Now, So I can see why some of
Speaker 4: the players could be able to play as long as
Speaker 4: they have and continue their career. If it's say I
Speaker 4: got twenty and I think Derrick Brooks played out dere
Speaker 4: Brook played.
Speaker 1: I don't think Brooks he played as long as Ray
Speaker 1: Ray had got said Ray got seventeen.
Speaker 4: Seventeen, Levonte could definitely get twenty. Man, he can definitely
Speaker 4: get twenty if he and for twenty.
Speaker 1: Look, I'm thinking fifteen. I said, let let me, let
Speaker 1: me get let me get out of this seat, let
Speaker 1: me get out of fourteen. You don't you get I
Speaker 1: recalibrate to fifteen because you know that's you know, seventeen
Speaker 1: games and he tackled, he hitting people. Yeah, so you
Speaker 1: know he saw after every game his shoulders, his back,
Speaker 1: his knees.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 1: But uh, it was good to have him all the unbelievable,
Speaker 1: unbelievable career. I'm glad he was able to stop by
Speaker 1: and talk about some of the things. And uh, but
Speaker 1: what like you and I talked about on your big days,
Speaker 1: it's a medical issue. It is, it is what it is,
Speaker 1: and you know you're gonna air, You're gonna err on
Speaker 1: the side of cartia.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Listen.
Speaker 4: The first thing I thought about, too, when I saw
Speaker 4: him continue working on the sideline, just walking and not
Speaker 4: actually practicing.
Speaker 5: The first thing that came to mind was Corey Stringer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, came to mind was Corey Stringer and them not
Speaker 4: want to be liable for anything that happened to him
Speaker 4: if he's on the fie. But then in his case,
Speaker 4: I think about, well, hell, he just did. He just
Speaker 4: did his time in Florida at that rate, at that
Speaker 4: size and still played and contributed. So but I kind
Speaker 4: of understand where the NFL and the ten baby Buccaneers
Speaker 4: didn't want to be liable if anything happened to him
Speaker 4: at the way he was.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they figured they figured NFL got deeper pockets
Speaker 1: than colleges, so they gonna put that tax on you, Yes, sir.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe.
Speaker 1: Former number one overall draft pick Jadevian Clowney visited the
Speaker 1: Cowboys today. With the Cowboys trading Michael Parson to the Packers,
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones is entertaining the twenty fourteen number one overall
Speaker 1: draft pick Jadevian Clowney as a possible edge rush to
Speaker 1: help the defense. Brian schottenhamu cut coach Clowney with the Seahawks.
Speaker 1: This is something we've been monitoring every position. Again, I
Speaker 1: feel great about our defensive line. But anytime you have
Speaker 1: a chance to potentially add a foot for good football players,
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you kick the tires?
Speaker 2: O Jo would Jadavian Clowney help?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, absolutely absolutely will listen today. C is gonna get
Speaker 4: out of your quarterback the day. Von Clowney is good
Speaker 4: against the run. He's a disruptor. He can add and
Speaker 4: add some help. He's not he's not Michael Parsons, He's
Speaker 4: not that, but he can add and he can add
Speaker 4: an addition on that offensive line coming in similar to
Speaker 4: maybe maybe not all three downs, but coming in on
Speaker 4: third downs. If yeah, we and and rotate and rotate
Speaker 4: that defensive line and keep everybody fresh. He that's I'm
Speaker 4: not sure why they didn't sign Hi yet. I'm not
Speaker 4: sure what they're waiting on. He should be able to
Speaker 4: before week four, before week happens, before week before happens,
Speaker 4: he should be on that field.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just me personally watching him.
Speaker 1: Obviously with to the US of South Carolina, where my
Speaker 1: brother went, so obviously I had a little vested interests
Speaker 1: because I still root for the game costs even though
Speaker 1: I didn't play there, my brother played there. I just
Speaker 1: don't think that Jadavian Clowny ever lived up to what
Speaker 1: we thought he was going to be.
Speaker 2: If you go back and look at his sophomore year ojo, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that Michigan game man.
Speaker 1: What he was doing, he was really ripping people's next office,
Speaker 1: proving down the throat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, whoa, what is this? We had never
Speaker 2: seen somebody like that.
Speaker 1: I mean he was violent, and that's what you when
Speaker 1: I look when I'm looking at a defensive player, your
Speaker 1: spacial defensive lineman or linebacker, I want violence.
Speaker 2: I want somebody that's gonna strike.
Speaker 1: And be and and and not be and not be
Speaker 1: ashamed of, Like, yeah, my job is this is my
Speaker 1: job is to punish you. And I just when I
Speaker 1: when I look at him, I was like, bro, the guy.
Speaker 1: I mean, look how big he was. Look at the
Speaker 1: forty times that he ran, look at his first step,
Speaker 1: look at his short shuttle. I mean he could do
Speaker 1: it all. I mean tremendous first step. You know who
Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna be. Like I said, this
Speaker 1: is this is a second come of Jabon Curst. That's
Speaker 1: who I thought he was gonna be.
Speaker 7: Like.
Speaker 5: That's a good one.
Speaker 4: Listen, There's not very many of it been like the freak.
Speaker 4: But again, what we saw from him in college, we expected.
Speaker 5: To see it.
Speaker 2: He was.
Speaker 5: He was good, but he wasn't great.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure what his injury history looks like, but
Speaker 4: I do know some of the times he showed flashes
Speaker 4: at brilliance.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, a great, great disruptor, and I know he
Speaker 5: can get after the quarterback.
Speaker 4: He has a great motor, great energy, and I think
Speaker 4: he'd be a great addition to the Dallas Cowboys. I'm
Speaker 4: not sure once he came in. This shouldn't have been
Speaker 4: no watching practice. Helly should have been in practice. Yes,
Speaker 4: he should have been in practice. So I'm excited for him.
Speaker 4: It's a great addition for the Cowboys and that defense,
Speaker 4: and they need it because the first game we saw
Speaker 4: them play, they got no pressure.
Speaker 5: No, they got no goddamn pressure.
Speaker 2: They didn't at all. Uh. And the thing is, think
Speaker 2: about O Joe, who was he playing beside JJ.
Speaker 1: Watt Yeah, JJ Watler defensive player of the Year.
Speaker 2: So that means I'm getting one on one. I wish
Speaker 2: you would.
Speaker 1: I wish you would slide that protection of ninety nine
Speaker 1: and leave me one on one one.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: If can you imagine if look how look what how
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald was when when Von he was already Aaron
Speaker 1: Donald and then you put Von Miller and you put
Speaker 1: Leonard Floyd outside of him. You remember what he looked like. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what That's what Jadavi and Cline was supposed to be.
Speaker 1: When you got a hair raiser on one side, you
Speaker 1: best believe I'm kicking ass and taking name did As
Speaker 1: to love guard center back out of bound. Yes, that's
Speaker 1: how that's that's the mentality.
Speaker 2: Boy.
Speaker 1: I wish I I wish y'all would double rod. I
Speaker 1: did you I double dog? Dare you to double somebody
Speaker 1: else other than me? In fact, I'm not gonna.
Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, honestly, you got to take
Speaker 4: something like that personal. You have to take something like
Speaker 4: that personal, saying, oh, you're gonna slade protection opposite way
Speaker 4: because you think there's a dog on the other side.
Speaker 1: Yes, one you disrespected you said, Oh, we ain't got
Speaker 1: to worry about him.
Speaker 5: Okay, basically, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: By third quarter A now, JJ about to eat because
Speaker 1: y'all gotta bring that. Y'all gotta bring that. Y'all gott
Speaker 1: to bring this left tackle. Y'all gotta bring some help
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna tear his ass up. And look, we
Speaker 1: don't know. Obviously, he's not the He's still not that.
Speaker 1: He's not the explosive player he wants nobody else. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is this to be his twelve year in the league.
Speaker 1: He came into twenty fourteen, so we look at a
Speaker 1: guy that'll be twelve years deep obviously, But yeah, he
Speaker 1: had moments, But I expected I expected him to be
Speaker 1: a perennial Pro Bowl player, a perennial All Pro. He
Speaker 1: had Defensive Player of the Year potential. That's what I
Speaker 1: was expecting of him. He's an over overall draft pick,
Speaker 1: number one overall draft pick as a defensive line Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta be Miles Garrett. That's the number one overall
Speaker 1: draft pick as a defensive lineman. Bruce Smith, that's the
Speaker 1: number one draft pick as an overall as a defensive lineman.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm expecting.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think I might expect too much,
Speaker 2: and I.
Speaker 1: Know everybody can't be I think Bruce was a two
Speaker 1: time Defensive Player of the Year. Miles has already won one.
Speaker 1: But when you're the number one overall player, those are
Speaker 1: the expectations that people have for you. And like I said,
Speaker 1: he had a good career, but I think he left
Speaker 1: some stuff on the table.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, I do I do.
Speaker 1: Cowboys All Pro cornerback de Ron Bland suffered a foot
Speaker 1: injury during practice on Monday that could result in him
Speaker 1: missing a couple of weeks. Bland recently signed four year
Speaker 1: extension ninety two million dollars. According to Clarence Hill, Bland
Speaker 1: is is out at least two weeks. He missed time
Speaker 1: last season would have left foot fracture. Dray Von Diggs
Speaker 1: is already is not ready for a full load. He
Speaker 1: played twenty seven snaps against the Eagles. OJO and it's
Speaker 1: time for them to call Gilly Stefan Gilmore.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think you should listen to Colts called
Speaker 4: Xavier Howard. You're bringing a veteran, veteran presence, a very
Speaker 4: savvy veteran at that like Stefan Gilmore, he's ready, he can't.
Speaker 4: I had the wide receiver workshop during the off season.
Speaker 4: Gilmore came out there to watch some of the receivers
Speaker 4: and we talked for a little bit. He's saying he
Speaker 4: was keeping himself in shape. If the right situation presented itself,
Speaker 4: he would welcome a comeback. So I think that's something
Speaker 4: that they should do again. I'm not sure why Jerry's
Speaker 4: not on the phone knowing that Bland is gonna be.
Speaker 5: About two weeks now.
Speaker 4: I think they probably have some type of belief and
Speaker 4: whoever Blands back up maybe where they haven't called the
Speaker 4: veteran presence to come in. So I think they're thinking, like, okay, well, listen,
Speaker 4: two weeks, we can roll with someone else that we
Speaker 4: already have here that is a backup, and see if
Speaker 4: we can do things to kind of protect him. If
Speaker 4: he's the fish, If that person that is the backup
Speaker 4: is the weak link, we can hide that for a
Speaker 4: little bit.
Speaker 5: We can hide that for two weeks until Bland gets back.
Speaker 1: Well, I think the thing is, if you're going to
Speaker 1: hide him, that means you'all defensive line need to get pressure.
Speaker 1: That's the best way to hide his ass on Joe
Speaker 1: the quarterback go have time to see his back, but
Speaker 1: to throw the ball or somebody hit him in the
Speaker 1: back of his head. That's what that's that's what you're
Speaker 1: you're looking for. That's what you're trying to accomplish if
Speaker 1: you're trying to hide. Hide to think because that look,
Speaker 1: I don't I didn't think they had great I think
Speaker 1: they got guys.
Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1: I think darn Bland was a wide receiver and they
Speaker 1: switched it to dB in college.
Speaker 4: That would be him and Trayvon Dick, Rayvon Dick, Trayvon
Speaker 4: Diggs in Alabama as a wide receiver, and coach Samans says,
Speaker 4: I think, but but you got to think what look
Speaker 4: look at all the receivers that was over there.
Speaker 1: Yes, son, I think you'd be better on the other
Speaker 1: side of the on the other side of the ball.
Speaker 1: And he's parlayed that into one of the better defensive backs.
Speaker 1: Great clue skills. Uh, he's a gambler. Got a lot
Speaker 1: of t Buck, a lot of tendencies. T Buck used
Speaker 1: to always say they got a they got more slants
Speaker 1: and stop routes than it got nine routes, so I
Speaker 1: would take my chances.
Speaker 2: And he would.
Speaker 1: But I agree with you, I think you have to
Speaker 1: look at Gilly. I don't know how much Gilly has
Speaker 1: left in the tank. Clearly he's not the defensive player
Speaker 1: that yes Stefan gil Moore than nobody expect that. But
Speaker 1: is he better than the guy that you could potentially
Speaker 1: call up or you could potentially.
Speaker 2: Slide in that slot.
Speaker 1: Ask the question that Jerry and the coaching staff and
Speaker 1: the hire of the brass those are the decisions that
Speaker 1: they would.
Speaker 2: Need to make. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1: Despite beating the Jets, it wasn't a particularly good day
Speaker 1: for the Pittsburgh offensive line, especially left tackle Broderick Jones,
Speaker 1: who was responsible for three other four sacks on Rogers Well.
Speaker 1: Aaron defended Jones to Dad, actually blamed himself for some
Speaker 1: of the sacks he took, citing back tightness that kept
Speaker 1: him from being more elusive. I don't think I was
Speaker 1: moving that well, so I think I kind of ran
Speaker 1: into at least one or two of those sacks. So
Speaker 1: I got to do a better job of using my legs.
Speaker 1: You know, I might be old, but I still feel
Speaker 1: like a move around pretty good. I wasn't moving the
Speaker 1: way I usually moved. I thought the protection was good
Speaker 1: for the most of the game. There are a couple
Speaker 1: of fundamental things to clean up. I just got to
Speaker 1: get get the ball out. That's the thing, Aaron. You
Speaker 1: see what you heard what he said on Joe. He
Speaker 1: said he would think he couldn't move.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: That's that's what happens when you get old. You think
Speaker 1: in your mind you could do all these things.
Speaker 5: But you can't. You can't. And then obviously the offensive
Speaker 5: line has to help him a little bit. They have to.
Speaker 5: They have to help him a little bit. And Aaron
Speaker 5: has to have that clock. That clock has to go
Speaker 5: off in your head.
Speaker 4: If you don't have the skill set from with the
Speaker 4: lower extremity, being able to move the way you used to,
Speaker 4: you got to be able to process that information a
Speaker 4: little bit faster and get the ball out.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you do.
Speaker 1: And I think the thing is that he does have
Speaker 1: a quick release and sometimes he dogs sacks because he
Speaker 1: can get them. But that's the thing. He doesn't have
Speaker 1: the legs. He's forty one. He doesn't have the legs
Speaker 1: that he once had. And that's what made him so unique.
Speaker 1: That's why you know, people look at him as one
Speaker 1: of the greatest throwers of the boot ball because of
Speaker 1: the arm platform, but his ability to throw the ball
Speaker 1: on the move. Yeah, there have been very few guys
Speaker 1: in NFL history that's been able to throw the ball
Speaker 1: on the move as well as Aaron Rodgers, or throw
Speaker 1: the ball from the pocket as well as Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: The armslaughts, the angles, and he had he had good legs.
Speaker 1: He wasn't Lamar Jackson, but he didn't need to beat
Speaker 1: but that arm. He had superior arm talent and with
Speaker 1: his with his mind, man, it was it was. It
Speaker 1: was to just watch him. Like I said, I went
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl that they beat the the beat
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Oh Joe, And.
Speaker 2: I was standing on the sideline and I'm watching this
Speaker 2: rook got warm up. I said, he.
Speaker 1: That's the greatest story of the football I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: And I saw Joe throw the ball as I saw
Speaker 1: Joe Montanna throw the football. I saw Damn Marino throw
Speaker 1: the football. I saw l Way throw the football. I
Speaker 1: saw Warren Moon throw the football. I say, that guy,
Speaker 1: what I just saw. In my fourteen years of playing
Speaker 1: in the NFL and all my years of covering the NFL.
Speaker 2: I've never seen anybody throw the football with he.
Speaker 5: Got the ultimate stamp of all time.
Speaker 4: When Tom Brady comes out and says, Aaron Rodgers is
Speaker 4: the greatest throw of the football that he's ever seen,
Speaker 4: or every witness or watch.
Speaker 5: Play, then it is exactly what it is.
Speaker 2: Got to see it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no matter how bottom, no matter how he looks now,
Speaker 4: he's still the greatest store of the football. And then
Speaker 4: when you get flashes of the brilliants that were used
Speaker 4: to seeing and he brings that to the Steelers. He
Speaker 4: gives you a great chance to win. And what they've
Speaker 4: done defensively, what they but they don't they didn't bought
Speaker 4: in Jabril Preppers. They didn't Gabrill Preppers. You got Daisy,
Speaker 4: you got Jaylen Ramsey. I mean you got Patrick Man
Speaker 4: this They're gonna be all right. You got TJ, while
Speaker 4: you got Cam.
Speaker 2: Come on now something.
Speaker 1: Some things you have to see for yourself because TV
Speaker 1: doesn't do it justice, like they say. You know, watching
Speaker 1: hockey is better if you watch it in person, then
Speaker 1: you watch it on television. Football is better if you
Speaker 1: watch it in person, then you watch it on television.
Speaker 1: Some things you have to actually see for yourself in
Speaker 1: order to get an appreciation, and me being a student
Speaker 1: of the game, me being around the game, and to
Speaker 1: see him throw the foot ball. I saw the same
Speaker 1: when I saw bad run like I've never seen nobody
Speaker 1: run like that. When you see Jerry run routes and
Speaker 1: then catch the football, and the effortlessness that Jerry ran
Speaker 1: with and the precision in which he got in and
Speaker 1: out of breaks, like damn, that's what you think when
Speaker 1: you see Aaron throw the football. That's what When I
Speaker 1: saw him throw the football, I was like, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about just the flick of the wrists and
Speaker 1: the ball is just I'm talking about ain't no wobble.
Speaker 2: I mean, everything is just tight. I'm just like up
Speaker 2: and over.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And the funny thing about it is too as great
Speaker 4: as as great of a throw the football Aaron is.
Speaker 5: The way he throws the ball in his mechanics or no,
Speaker 5: you can't, don't teach that done. It doesn't go hand
Speaker 5: in hand, no help go hand in hand.
Speaker 2: All over the place.
Speaker 5: He's all over the place. He does everything because his arm,
Speaker 5: his arm, his arm, talent arm strength football.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it is.
Speaker 5: You can't teach that you can't teach that.
Speaker 1: Xavia Worthy left the Chiefs Week one game due to
Speaker 1: a dislocated shoulder, and the injury and the Chiefs third
Speaker 1: offensive player in Brazil. He was running a crossing paddle
Speaker 1: over the middle and he and Travis Kelsey read directly
Speaker 1: in each other. Kelsey took the blame for what happened
Speaker 1: on New Heights. I'm supposed to be running my route
Speaker 1: at depth for Worthy, so it's frustrating. I was trying
Speaker 1: to set up the guy to be able to get
Speaker 1: into position, and then it just happened pretty quick. I
Speaker 1: just got to be better, man. I mean your I'm
Speaker 1: thirteen years in the league. There's no excuse for me
Speaker 1: running into my own guy like that.
Speaker 5: Yo, Joe, what do we say where we said the
Speaker 5: same thing. He ain't listen.
Speaker 4: He was supposed to be at seventy nine and Worthy
Speaker 4: was supposed to be come underneath that. But you got
Speaker 4: to remember on the pressure the collision, when you write
Speaker 4: exit nose is you got to remember there's somebody else.
Speaker 2: Well it makes the nose don't move. You just put
Speaker 2: them on the paper. They stayed right where you put him.
Speaker 5: So he was a little short because the person in
Speaker 5: front of him. The collision. It forced him to.
Speaker 4: Run his xavier worthy. So if anything, you got to
Speaker 4: go a little higher that look, you got to fight
Speaker 4: through that contact. You have to, and that's that's where
Speaker 4: the that's where the collision happens. So uh, it's it's unfortunate.
Speaker 4: It's something that that he can fix. But again, you
Speaker 4: just it's all about being being self aware.
Speaker 2: He can fix it down, but he ain't fix the
Speaker 2: xavier shoulder for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's messed up, and that's it.
Speaker 2: That's the thing. But I knew, I knew what it was.
Speaker 1: I said, bro, you do do you understand how many
Speaker 1: shallow crosses that I've run, how many peak shallow crosses,
Speaker 1: because a lot of sometimes we run the shallow cross
Speaker 1: on our own, and a real shallow cross is four
Speaker 1: to six four yards, But you're gaining because you want
Speaker 1: to give the quarterback the angle. So you start two
Speaker 1: to three, you get the four deep, no deeper than six.
Speaker 2: Catch it. He will. Hey, whatever it is.
Speaker 1: If it's a man, he put it out in front
Speaker 1: of him, he lead turned you up. If it's a zone,
Speaker 1: you don't look at him. You just oopah, stop on
Speaker 1: the dime that tackle gap, hey, and however you put
Speaker 1: it on, you put it between the eight and the four.
Speaker 2: He said, get up for your shadow. Shatter's some danger
Speaker 2: on left or the right of you.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: See it's easy with his own problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 5: The problem is when it's man and you trying to
Speaker 5: collision you and you're trying to get to your depth,
Speaker 5: and you got to fight through that, right, fight through that.
Speaker 1: But see, and my thing is, oh, y'all, look, Kensey
Speaker 1: is bigger than I was. But you couldn't stop me
Speaker 1: from getting where I wanted to be. Now you can't
Speaker 1: because I'm just gonnaut. I'm gonna push through you. And
Speaker 1: then I see because the whole while, as I know,
Speaker 1: I got to pick so the but see, mainly, oh yo,
Speaker 1: I wasn't the picker.
Speaker 2: Somebody else was picking for me. For me, Yeah, somebody
Speaker 2: picking for me.
Speaker 1: But when I did, on the rare occasions that I
Speaker 1: did have to pick or I'm gonna get, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get you. I'm gonna push up and guess what, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna run your i' gonna run you into your own guy.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I had to get oh, I had to get skinny.
Speaker 1: I mean literally, you run it like this, Hey, you
Speaker 1: got to turn like this here get through that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta get skinny. But it's it's very unfortunate, and
Speaker 1: I know to watch it you like, man, of all
Speaker 1: the things could happen, I got a thousand catchers, I
Speaker 1: got like the most playoff touchdowns. I'm a few yards
Speaker 1: short of Jerry as far as yards in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and I ran into my own guy. I put my
Speaker 1: own guy. That's that's that's what that's what. That's what
Speaker 1: Travis thinking. That's what NEP is thinking, Like, I put
Speaker 1: my own damn guy. We already thinking. We already the
Speaker 1: first six weeks, O Joe. We without reheet Rice. Now
Speaker 1: we were out our second best receiver. Hey, man, what
Speaker 1: y'all gonna do? Man, y'all ain't gonna do nothing, blow
Speaker 1: that thing or let him get Tyreek back.
Speaker 5: Oh that's not fair. That's not fair. I think it's
Speaker 5: too soon for that though.
Speaker 2: Y'all ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 4: Hey, listen, if things don't continue to get better, it's
Speaker 4: only week one night as only as.
Speaker 1: The price is dropped, O Joe. If you get to
Speaker 1: the trade deadline and y'all out of contention. Everybody know
Speaker 1: you trying to unload Tyreek hold hold on the trade?
Speaker 5: When is trade day?
Speaker 2: Line?
Speaker 5: It's only week one? Now, I'm come on, now is
Speaker 5: week When is week?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 5: Trade that line?
Speaker 2: If you have to wait till you in a byd,
Speaker 2: it's too late.
Speaker 1: People, You make bad decisions when you're in a bind, right,
Speaker 1: make decisions before.
Speaker 5: You have to.
Speaker 4: That's not the way. That's not the way they're thinking.
Speaker 4: Management is not thinking like that. We just starting the season.
Speaker 4: They're not thinking like that already. Now you are thinking
Speaker 4: like that logically because we're sitting here with not playing,
Speaker 4: but we want to at least have a chance to win.
Speaker 5: Who gives us our best chance to win? Number ten?
Speaker 1: No, what gives us the best chance to win in
Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty seven and beyond? Because you and I
Speaker 1: both know Tyreek Hill. Tyreek Hill's making thirty six million
Speaker 1: next year. You know damn well.
Speaker 2: You know that I know that he ain't getting that
Speaker 2: from Miami.
Speaker 5: If that's the case.
Speaker 4: If that's the case, if we think about twenty six,
Speaker 4: twenty seven and beyond, then you would let him go.
Speaker 4: When it was the issue with what he said last
Speaker 4: year in offseason, you would let him go to this offseason.
Speaker 1: I think they thought about it, though, Joe. They damn
Speaker 1: Suoe thought about it. They thought about it, Okay, maybe
Speaker 1: and maybe the price a little bit too high. The
Speaker 1: price came down. Now price coming down. The NFL said
Speaker 1: they're gonna investigate. He's going through a divorce and there
Speaker 1: was some things put in the lawsuit that's come out
Speaker 1: that the NFL didn't that doesn't look favorable pun and
Speaker 1: I hate that for Tyreek. We've kind of had, we've
Speaker 1: you know, he he he took what I said. I
Speaker 1: said that he's not u uh Smitty. Steve Smith and
Speaker 1: I was having a conversation and he was basically saying
Speaker 1: that Tyreek is a body catcher. He doesn't you know,
Speaker 1: he doesn't pluck the ball. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: I can understand that. And he took that that we
Speaker 1: were I said, but he's phenomenal. Michael lerveth in the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Nobody looks at Mike and says, Mike,
Speaker 1: you know, Mike did this. It's okay, but he but
Speaker 1: I've always given credit to Tyreek because when he came
Speaker 1: into the league, O hoe. He was mainly a gadget guy.
Speaker 1: He's a returner, and put him in on you know,
Speaker 1: j sweeze.
Speaker 2: And things like that. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: he turned himself. He taught himself how to run routes.
Speaker 1: He could run the route treat and with that speed,
Speaker 1: he turned himself into a player that's gonna do get
Speaker 1: a gold jacket one day. That's what Tyreek Hill has
Speaker 1: been able to do. I don't have I've never had
Speaker 1: a problem giving guys credit when it's due. But I've
Speaker 1: also never had a problem critiquing guys when I think
Speaker 1: their needs, critiquing and saying that's not good enough, that
Speaker 1: was bad, that was good, that was unacceptable. That's I've
Speaker 1: never had a problem with that. But I think, But
Speaker 1: but the thing is, oh Joe, the trade deadline is
Speaker 1: November fifth.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, oh Joe.
Speaker 1: Why would I Why would I give you what you want?
Speaker 1: Y'all two and y'all two and seven at the trade deadline?
Speaker 1: Now you think I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: Give you what you want? I know you got to
Speaker 2: get up off it. I know you do. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Well keep him?
Speaker 4: Then, I'm not I'm not sure sure, I'm not sure,
Speaker 4: mister gri and Mike mcdame is ready to throw the
Speaker 4: talent already.
Speaker 2: They are.
Speaker 1: That's why they traded Jalen Ramsey. That's where they let
Speaker 1: Christian Wilkins. Well, that's why they let Klais Campbell go
Speaker 1: hold on.
Speaker 5: That's that's that's that's based on age. That's based on age.
Speaker 4: That's based on the amount that they had to pay
Speaker 4: j in On Ramsey that they're they're getting there, get
Speaker 4: the get that money off the books.
Speaker 5: Now, you get that money off the books, right? And
Speaker 5: you what are you telling your players?
Speaker 2: How long? How much older is Jayalen Ramsey?
Speaker 4: The Minka Fitzpatrick, So Mica Fitzpatrick just came into a
Speaker 4: rebuilding situation, their transition, their transition, getting rid of all
Speaker 4: their older players.
Speaker 2: Okay, huh, I.
Speaker 4: Said they're transitioning, getting rid of all the older players,
Speaker 4: rebuilding all over again.
Speaker 2: I mean that's why you let Tyreek go.
Speaker 5: They should have let him go in the off season.
Speaker 2: Yes, but I think that I.
Speaker 4: Think the thing is maybe the asking price was too high,
Speaker 4: the asking price for Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 1: Yep, I should want o Joe if Okay, the best
Speaker 1: time to buy a sports car is winning in the winner.
Speaker 1: You fight in the summer or the spring, and see
Speaker 1: what they've taxed your ass. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: I'm going to New York. I'm going to Words. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let me get that Ferrari because I know, hey, I
Speaker 1: will be able to I will be able to get
Speaker 1: a discount on the sports car in the winter if
Speaker 1: I wait till the spring of the summer.
Speaker 5: Listen to me. Let me tell you something springing and
Speaker 5: sports cars.
Speaker 2: Let go right, Yes, you.
Speaker 4: Got that discount you wanted, But that discount that sports car,
Speaker 4: it's still it's still prime. It's yes, step and it's
Speaker 4: still playing exactly had had supposed to play, and it's
Speaker 4: in a better situation. You think Tyreek could be upset
Speaker 4: about leaving.
Speaker 2: Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: Well, I think I ideally, Oh Joe, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I'm in a state with no state tax and the
Speaker 1: weather is great year round, so all things being equal,
Speaker 1: with Joe, it's like when the fox threw the rabbit
Speaker 1: in the bron patch.
Speaker 2: He's like, WHOA, I was born and raised right here,
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, Joe, no state taxes and the weather
Speaker 1: year road, what more could you ask for?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a reason why. That's the reason why
Speaker 1: your black ball head ass still down there.
Speaker 5: Yeah that listen, Miami is all I know. I'm born
Speaker 5: and raised.
Speaker 4: But obviously you know, the first thing Tyreek could say
Speaker 4: mentally in his mind, what's the worst thing? The best
Speaker 4: thing I could ask for is a quarterback. Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: for a quarterback. So you wanted to get you want
Speaker 4: them to have everything.
Speaker 1: So you want the man to have nice weather, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't have no state income tax, and he get to
Speaker 1: play with Aaron Rodgers or Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen.
Speaker 4: Listen from what I from the reports I've been seeing
Speaker 4: about going to the Steelers, Oh, he would be nice
Speaker 4: for the reports that I'm seeing him about going back
Speaker 4: to Kansas City.
Speaker 5: Then we would just see Tyreka Bold.
Speaker 4: Yes, when you're taking a player that's in a bad
Speaker 4: situation where they can't give him the ball and put
Speaker 4: him in a situation with quarterbacks where he can get
Speaker 4: the ball.
Speaker 1: So you want so you want to put Jared right,
Speaker 1: you want to put Jered Rice with Marito in Miami.
Speaker 1: At least put him in San Francisco so they gonna
Speaker 1: get some rain sometime. He got to play it in
Speaker 1: Clement Weather.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 1: You want to put him in an ideal situation that's
Speaker 1: like Barrett. So you want to put Barons Sanders. You
Speaker 1: want to put Baron Sanders with a Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: quarterback and the Cowboys offensive line right right right, So you.
Speaker 2: Wanted to be Emmy Smith because that's what Look what
Speaker 2: they gave him.
Speaker 1: They gave a Hall of Fame quarterback, a Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame wide receiver, offensive line out the yin yang and
Speaker 1: he got eighteen thousand yards rushing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, hell he was with the Dolphins.
Speaker 4: He had back to back seventeen hundred yard seasons, so
Speaker 4: we knew he can get it done there.
Speaker 2: But just one there. I see.
Speaker 1: The thing is is that he was probably he was
Speaker 1: not going to have that in Kansas City because you
Speaker 1: got Kelsey. But what he was going to be able
Speaker 1: to do slip something on his finger every you know,
Speaker 1: he's gonna get it, you get proposed, He's gonna get
Speaker 1: proposed to after every every year.
Speaker 7: Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 4: And the funny thing about it is wherever he does go,
Speaker 4: he increases the chances of getting another ring.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he increases the.
Speaker 5: Chances of walking down to the aust again.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the thing is, O yo, I think
Speaker 2: they you're not gonna do. First of all, ain't nobody
Speaker 2: gonna give you what you gave up to get him?
Speaker 1: Now he's three years he's three years older, and there's
Speaker 1: a lot of other things going on. Now, Now, what
Speaker 1: is it reasonable that you Because O yo, he got
Speaker 1: thirty six million, he's gonna be fifty one million dollars
Speaker 1: against the cap next year for a wide receiver. So
Speaker 1: all things being equal, you're probably gonna have to extend
Speaker 1: him to lower that cap number. Yeah, so now I
Speaker 1: gotta factor that in. Now, if I trade for him,
Speaker 1: how much of that salary are you gonna pay? How
Speaker 1: much of the salary am I gonna pay? Those are
Speaker 1: all things that's gonna be factored in because I know
Speaker 1: next year twenty six he's not gonna Ain't no wide
Speaker 1: receiver gonna count no fifty one million dollars against the cap.
Speaker 4: I understand what you're saying, But again, whoever has to
Speaker 4: account for what, whoever has to pay what they're.
Speaker 5: Willing to pay because you understand the type of player
Speaker 5: you're getting.
Speaker 2: Are we sure we're gonna get that type of player?
Speaker 5: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 5: Come on, now, come on.
Speaker 1: Now, I'm just saying, oh Joe, I got the factor in.
Speaker 1: I got the factor in last year? Do I not
Speaker 1: do I do I not factor in?
Speaker 4: If it means if if we're factoring last year, let's
Speaker 4: factor all. Let's factor in everything on why it looked
Speaker 4: the way it did.
Speaker 2: Come on.
Speaker 1: Even if you factor that in, the one thing that
Speaker 1: you cannot do is what quit. Oh no matter how
Speaker 1: bad he get outside, oh cho, no matter how bad
Speaker 1: it is storming at the end of the day, O Joe,
Speaker 1: if you the mail man, you can't say, well, I
Speaker 1: ain't delivering the mail because it's raining. Right, put on
Speaker 1: your goloshes, put on your raincoat, and you got to
Speaker 1: deliver the mail. You're right, oh Joe. We all of
Speaker 1: them been through it, Oh Joe. We all have been
Speaker 1: in situation. We get our eyes beat out. I was like,
Speaker 1: who man, hey one still up?
Speaker 2: Still up? Man? Were down thirty? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Hello, I was in that all my career, outside of
Speaker 5: one season, all my career.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's tough, man, It's tough.
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson shouldn't expect a warm homecoming Ojoe when he
Speaker 1: returns to ford Field for Week two, and Rob Saint
Speaker 1: Brown said week two is going to be so crazy.
Speaker 1: I promise you it's going to be so electric. But
Speaker 1: as soon as Ben walks in there, we blewing him.
Speaker 1: I don't give an f We're all bulling you.
Speaker 7: That's dope, that's dope. That's dope.
Speaker 5: Of course, listen, that's the that's the way it is,
Speaker 5: that's the way it is.
Speaker 4: Obviously, Ben Johnson now being you know, the head coach
Speaker 4: over there with the Bears having great success, you know,
Speaker 4: calling and plays for the Detroit Lions. Of course, fans
Speaker 4: are gonna feel some way, players are gonna feel some
Speaker 4: type of way. Their happy for him, but you're no longer.
Speaker 7: A part of us.
Speaker 5: You're no longer part of us. So it comes from
Speaker 5: the territory. The boozs are gonna rain.
Speaker 4: The boozs are gonna rain, and when football is played,
Speaker 4: they're gonna They're gonna have to do what they need
Speaker 4: to do when that whistle blows.