1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: Ambassador Haiti, thank you very much for catching up with 3 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 2: Bloomberg this morning. If Lenawmi, I'd like to go straight 4 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 2: to some of the polls, because I think you find 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: yourself in a really peculiar position. Head to head with 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: a sitting president, you dominate him. Within your own party, 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: you're struggling. The latest poll from the Washington Post Monmouth 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: University shows fifty eight percent of South Carolina voter support 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: Trump compared to thirty two percent for you. So my 10 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: question would be how much daylight is there between what 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 2: your party wants and what you think is. 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: Good for it. 13 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 3: Well, you know, first of all, I'm really proud of 14 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 3: what we've done. We had fourteen people in the race. 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 3: We've defeated a dozen of the fellas. I just got 16 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 3: one more. I've got to catch up to. Everybody said 17 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 3: we wouldn't be able to do it. We started with 18 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 3: two percent in Iowa, we ended up with twenty percent. 19 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 3: We went to New Hampshire we got forty three percent 20 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 3: of the vote. We increased twenty five points in the 21 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: last three weeks of New Hampshire. This race is still 22 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 3: very much moving. We are going to continue to close 23 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 3: that gap in South Carolina as we had to Michigan 24 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 3: and Super Tuesday. Remember, seventy percent of Americans don't want 25 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 3: to see a Trump Biden rematch. 26 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 1: I am pushing. 27 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 3: Through to make sure they have a voice. That's what 28 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 3: we have to do. That's what matters. You've got, you know, 29 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 3: a decision whether to keep more of the same or 30 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 3: whether to go in a new direction, more of the 31 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 3: same as not just Joe Biden, more of the same 32 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 3: as Donald Trump. And we've got to stop the chaos. 33 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: We've got to stop the division. But more importantly, we've 34 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 3: got to get our domestic issues on track. We've got 35 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 3: to get our national security on track, and we've got 36 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 3: to get the American families back on track. 37 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: Well, let's kick it off with some foreign policy. So 38 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: you've voiced opposition clearly to Trump's remarks on NATO over 39 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: the weekend. I'm struggling to find more than a handful 40 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: of Republican senators who agree with you. Is that any 41 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: evidence that Trump's thinking is unpopular with GOP voters. 42 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's not to go and blame the voters, 43 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: and it's not to go and blame the American people out. 44 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 3: I've always said it's important for Joe Biden and Congress 45 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 3: to tell the American people why they should care to 46 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 3: give them the other side, And you don't hear that. 47 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 3: The other side is that NATO's been a seventy five 48 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 3: year success story. 49 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: We have not had war in the region. 50 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 3: And if you look, Russia has never invaded a NATO country. 51 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 3: They've invaded Georgia, They've invaded Ukraine, they've invaded Moldova. So 52 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 3: we want to make sure that, yes, do we want 53 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 3: NATO to pay more, of course we do. But the 54 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 3: last thing we're going to do is side with a thug. 55 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 3: Keep in mind Putin kills his opponents. Keep in mind 56 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 3: that he has arrested Evan Gersovitch, who's been sitting in 57 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 3: jail just for doing journalism. Keep in mind that this 58 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: is a man who has wanted to destroy America and 59 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 3: defeat America for years. I dealt with Russia every single day. 60 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 3: It is a mistake for Trump to side with Putin 61 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 3: over our allies. We needed a lot of friends after 62 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 3: nine to eleven. We better remember that. But it takes 63 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: a friend to get a friend. 64 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 4: Ambassador Haley, I'm sure you've seen the comments from the 65 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 4: likes of Lyn Graham and Marco Rubio when it comes 66 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 4: to NATO. Do you feel like you're potentially at a 67 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 4: step with members of your own party. 68 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: You know it's not. The goal is never to follow 69 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 3: the polls. The goal is to make sure you communicate 70 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 3: what's right. We need to make sure that we have 71 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 3: an alliance that's strong. Our whole goal is to prevent war. 72 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: That's the main thing. I mean, you look at Russia 73 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 3: right now. The reason people should care about Ukraine is 74 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 3: because one it's a pro American freedom loving country. But two, 75 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 3: listen to what Putin said. Putin said, once he takes Ukraine, 76 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 3: Poland and the Baltics are next. Those are NATO countries 77 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 3: that immediately puts America at war. This is about preventing war. 78 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 3: This is about keeping an alliance strong. This is about 79 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: bringing more friends in, not pushing friends away. Donald Trump 80 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: doesn't get that, and that's what will creep us into war. 81 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: We can't have that. 82 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: And so our goal is not to go and blame 83 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 3: the American people for feeling the way they do. It's 84 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 3: to make sure we get our message out on why 85 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 3: they should care and how this is in the best 86 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 3: centrists of America, and for those politicians who are refusing 87 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 3: to say that, that's a disservice to the people that 88 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 3: they serve. 89 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 4: If the goal to bring more friends in would you 90 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 4: agree that President Biden has done a good job in 91 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 4: expanding the NATO alliance? 92 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 3: Well, I think first of all, I think that he, yes, 93 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 3: he understands the importance of NATO, but he doesn't understand 94 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 3: the importance of preventing war. He could have prevented Putin 95 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 3: going into Ukraine. All of this wouldn't have happened if 96 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 3: we wouldn't have had the debacle in Afghanistan. 97 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: I mean, think about the fact that we left boger. 98 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 3: Mair Force Base in the middle of the night without 99 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 3: telling our allies who stood shoulder to shoulder with us 100 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 3: for decades because we asked them to be there. Think 101 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 3: about what that told our friends. More importantly, think about 102 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,239 Speaker 3: what that said to our enemies. So there's no surprise 103 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 3: that Putin went and invaded Ukraine. There's no surprise that 104 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 3: we're seeing Aron push its terrorist proxies to do evil. 105 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: Around the world. 106 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 3: There's no surprise that Hamas has invaded Israel. There's no 107 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 3: surprise that China is doing surveillance and intimidation over Taiwan. 108 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 3: They see that the US is weak and they don't 109 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 3: trust it. And the fact that we are watching Joe 110 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 3: Biden in decline is not helping that Russia, China, and 111 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 3: iron are watching every day the decline of Joe Biden. 112 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: This is bigger about a bigger than a party. This 113 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 3: is about the fact that we've got to look out 114 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 3: for the national interests of our country. And that's when 115 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 3: you put all of this aside and say, what do 116 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 3: we need. 117 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: We don't need. 118 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 3: Two eighty year old candidates running for president. We need 119 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 3: someone who can serve eight years. Discipline, strong, no volatility, 120 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 3: no drama, no vindictiveness. Just get the job done for 121 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 3: the American people. That's what I'm trying to do. 122 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 4: Well. When it comes to mental acuity, I know you 123 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 4: want to make a standard that they have to take 124 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 4: these tests. You said you're willing to take these tests. 125 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 4: Do you expect Biden or Trump to take a mental 126 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 4: acuity test before November? 127 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 3: I expect that if you look at the fact, this 128 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: is just a fact. There's a reason pilots can't fly 129 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 3: after the age of sixty five. There's a reason you 130 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: have to get out of the military after a limited age. 131 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 3: There are a lot of industries that do that because 132 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 3: it is fact you are in decline. You look at 133 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 3: Joe Biden two years ago, very different than what you 134 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 3: see Joe Biden today. You look at Donald Trump in 135 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: twenty sixteen, very different than what you see today. Donald 136 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: Trump the other day went on three four times saying 137 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 3: that I should have had security at the Capitol on 138 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 3: January sixth. I didn't never had a job in DC, 139 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: I never was in charge of security. 140 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: He was confused. That is what happens. 141 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 3: What I am saying is I don't care if you 142 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 3: do mental competency tests for fifty en up. But these 143 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 3: are people making decisions on our national security. These are 144 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: people making decisions on the future of our economy. We 145 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 3: need to know they're at the top of their game. 146 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 3: This is not about whether you like them or they 147 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 3: hold a baby well. This is about the fact that 148 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 3: we have serious issues in our country. Our country is 149 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 3: in disarray and the world is on fire, and we 150 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 3: can't go through four more years of chaos. We won't 151 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 3: survive it. 152 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 4: And Massad Haley, you point out a number of gaffes, 153 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 4: not just from the former President Trump, but also current 154 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 4: President Biden. At the same time, they're still beating you 155 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 4: in polls when it comes to Trump, even the ft 156 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 4: over the weekend, when it comes to handling of the economy, 157 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 4: you're trailing Biden. Why is that? 158 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, if you look at the general 159 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 3: election polls, you see that I do defeat Biden by 160 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 3: almost seventeen points. 161 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: You can look at the Marquete pole that just came 162 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: out last week. 163 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: I defeat Biden and Wisconsin by fifteen points. Trump doesn't 164 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: defeat Biden. And we have to look at the fact 165 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 3: that if we go in all the swing states, I 166 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 3: defeat Biden and if I win by double digits. 167 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: Do you know what that means? 168 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 3: That means you go into DC with a mandate, A 169 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 3: mandate to stop the wasteful spending and get our economy 170 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,239 Speaker 3: back on track, a mandate to get our kids reading 171 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 3: again and go back to the basics and education. 172 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: A mandate to. 173 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 3: Secure our borders with no more excuses, a mandate for 174 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: law and order back in our cities, and a mandate 175 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 3: of a strong America that prevents wars that we can 176 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 3: all be proud of That's the goal of where we're. 177 00:07:58,720 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: Trying to go. 178 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 3: We've got to get past this partisan it's got to 179 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: be him or him. I think the problem is both 180 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: of those men. You look at it, whether it's these 181 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 3: court cases where they had national security documents they shouldn't 182 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 3: have had. If you've ever had a job that dealt 183 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 3: with any sort of security documents, you know that they 184 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 3: are handled with extreme care. The fact that both of 185 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 3: these gentlemen were so arrogant to have those documents, bragging 186 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 3: around about them or having them in a garage tells 187 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 3: you this is more about them than it is about 188 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 3: the American people. 189 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: That's the focus. 190 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 3: We've got to get this back on the American people 191 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: and stop getting it on these two men who are 192 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 3: refusing to give up their power. 193 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: We can focus on that right now. Bassidor Haley, you 194 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 2: mentioned the economy, let's talk about it. Last summer, you 195 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 2: spoke to this network about ways to combat rising debt. 196 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: I've got the transcript in front of me. My colleague 197 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,239 Speaker 2: Joe Matthew asked you, how would you manage the entitlements 198 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 2: to try and get our arms around soaring debt? Your answer? 199 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,479 Speaker 2: Any candidate that says they're not going to touch entitlements 200 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: that basically going to go into office and leave America bankrupt. 201 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: One option you offered, we change retirement age to reflect 202 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 2: life expectancy. Your original answer is now part of Trump campaign. 203 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 2: Ats is that still something you want to do? 204 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: Well, First of all, that's not what I said. 205 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 3: What I said is we should not ever take away 206 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 3: from those who have invested in and those who have 207 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 3: been promised America should always keep their promises. I said 208 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 3: we should go and change the rules for those in 209 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: their twenties. That's the problem those in their twenties, like 210 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 3: my kids. For them, we should change the retirement age 211 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 3: to life expectancy. Instead of cost of living increases, we 212 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 3: should do increases based on inflation. We should cap the 213 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 3: benefits on the megawealthy, and we should expand Medicare advantage plans. 214 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 3: What Donald Trump wants to do is he doesn't want 215 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 3: to touch it, so that when Social Security goes bankrupt 216 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 3: in ten ures, everybody gets a twenty four percent cut 217 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 3: across the board. 218 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: That's not how you handle a problem. I'm going to 219 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: count it. The thing you do is you get in 220 00:09:58,840 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: front of the problem. 221 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 3: When we make those changes, that's when you start focusing 222 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 3: on what it takes to make sure not only does 223 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 3: everybody who've paid and keep what they get, but you 224 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 3: make sure that our kids will actually have something when 225 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 3: the time comes for them as well. We have to 226 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 3: take that seriously, and we have to stop having Congress 227 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 3: raid the Social Security accounts. Right now they're rating all 228 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 3: of those accounts. Instead of stopping the wasteful spending, we'll 229 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 3: stop the spending, stop the borrowing, eliminate the pet projects, 230 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 3: and al Vito any spending bill that doesn't take us 231 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 3: back to pre COVID levels. 232 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 4: Ambasso, do you still think sixty five is way too 233 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 4: low when it comes to retirement. 234 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: I think it depends. 235 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 3: We need to go and look at the numbers and 236 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 3: see exactly where it should be. I think right now 237 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 3: we do know that people are living longer. What the 238 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 3: age should be depends. But for everybody that's paid in 239 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 3: the system, the age is sixty five. That will stay 240 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 3: sixty five for those in their twenties. That's where we're 241 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: going to have to go and look and say what's 242 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 3: the right age for us To do that we can 243 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: solve this problem. People don't have to live in fear 244 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 3: the they're going to lose their social Security, but we 245 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: need to be honest with them. Communicate to them that 246 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 3: social Security will go bankrupt in ten years, Communicate to 247 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 3: them that Medicare will go bankrupt in eight and let 248 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 3: them know that we're going to find a way to 249 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 3: make sure they keep what they have. 250 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: But we're going to have to make changes. 251 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 3: Going forward so that we can start to make sure 252 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 3: these things are solvent. 253 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: In ten years. 254 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 5: Just changing some of the respect to twenty year olds 255 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 5: isn't going to necessarily change the equation financially in terms 256 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 5: of making Social Security more sustainable. So what else could 257 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 5: you do in the near term to make the sustainable. 258 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 3: Well, right now, Joe Biden and Donald Trump are saying 259 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 3: they're not going to do anything, which means you're going 260 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 3: to have a twenty four percent cap twenty four percent 261 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 3: cut in ten years. At least I'm willing to do 262 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 3: something about it. At least I'm willing to tell the 263 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 3: American people the truth that there is a problem and 264 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 3: that we're going. 265 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: To fix it. 266 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 3: So the thing is you start with that, you also 267 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 3: start with cutting out the wasteful spending that's happened from 268 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 3: Republicans and Democrats. We saw that two point two trillion 269 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 3: dollar COVID Stace simulus bill that passed with no accountability. 270 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: That's now expanded welfare. 271 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 3: That's left us with eighty million Americans on Medicaid, forty 272 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 3: two million Americans on food stamps. 273 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: That's a third of our country. 274 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 3: And instead of Republicans doubling down and trying to make 275 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 3: something right, they opened up pet projects and earmarks for 276 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 3: the first time in ten years, pushing through seven thousand 277 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 3: of them last year. 278 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: You've got to stop that. 279 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 3: The other ways we're going to do it is we're 280 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 3: going to take as many programs in the federal government 281 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 3: as we can and pass them down to the state level. 282 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 3: That will dramatically reduce the size of the federal government, 283 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 3: but it will empower people on the ground. Think education, 284 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: think welfare, think healthcare, think mental health. When you go 285 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 3: and cut those strengths and allow that to go down 286 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 3: to the people, you're reducing the size of the bloated 287 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 3: government we have. Everybody loves to talk about how great 288 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 3: the economy was under Donald Trump. Well, yet seemed great, 289 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 3: but at what costs? Well, he put US eight trillion 290 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 3: dollars in debt in just four years Joe Biden went 291 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 3: and doubled down and put us even more in debt. 292 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,119 Speaker 1: That's not how you fix the economy. 293 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 3: That's how you go and leave younger generations in a 294 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 3: situation they'll never be able to pull out of. 295 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 5: Meanwhile, Donald Trump is talking about heavily taroffing Chinese goods, 296 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 5: potentially up to forty percent. Do you see this as 297 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 5: one viable way to raise money. 298 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. 299 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 3: All that does is raise taxes on the American families 300 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 3: and our small businesses that we need to be taken 301 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 3: care of. 302 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 1: It is ludicrous that. 303 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 3: He wants to go and raise those tariffs to everything 304 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 3: that we import that's going to affect American families on 305 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 3: anything from baby strollers to appliances. Every American family will 306 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 3: see at least a twenty eight hundred dollars increase in 307 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 3: their taxes. Not only that, Not only does he want 308 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 3: to cut Social Security by twenty four percent ten years, 309 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 3: he wanted to raise the gas tax by twenty five 310 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 3: cents per gallon in twenty eighteen. He doesn't understand the 311 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 3: value of a taxpayer dollar. He doesn't understand that you 312 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 3: don't go in debt, you don't tax the American people. 313 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 3: You don't go and take away big take care of 314 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 3: big corporations. You take care of small businesses and American 315 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 3: families by making sure they have more cash that they 316 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 3: can spend. That's been what's lost not only in Donald Trump, 317 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 3: but in Joe Biden and in every member of Congress. 318 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 2: And Masiba Haiti. Given that, given that you seemingly consider, 319 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: and many of us do too, that a tariff on 320 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 2: China is a tax on American consumers, would you consider 321 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: repealing existing tariffs on Chinese imports. 322 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 3: China's different now when you talk about Trump wants to 323 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 3: do tariffs across the board from every country, China we 324 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 3: have to deal with differently. We have to understand China 325 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 3: has been preparing for war with US for years. 326 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: That's not an exaggeration. They're already here. 327 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 3: We know that they bought four hundred thousand acres of 328 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 3: US soil, most recently near Grand Forks Air Force Base, 329 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 3: where our most. 330 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: Sensitive drone technology is. 331 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 3: They're putting millions of dollars into our universities, stealing our 332 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 3: research and spreading Chinese propaganda. They've got Chinese police stations 333 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 3: throughout our country. We know they had the Chinese by 334 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 3: balloon that was doing surveillance over a country that now 335 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 3: connected with a US Internet company and sent that surveillance 336 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 3: to China. They're building up their military threatening America. What 337 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 3: we need to do is when we look at China, 338 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 3: you look at it through a national security lens. You 339 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 3: look at it and say, if China pulled the rug 340 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 3: out from under us tomorrow, would we be ready? Think 341 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 3: about what happened during COVID. Everybody was told to wear 342 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 3: a mask? Who made the masks China did? Everybody was 343 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 3: told to take a COVID test. 344 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: You turned it over. 345 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 3: It was made in China. Go into your drug stores 346 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: right now. All of those medications are made in China. 347 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 3: We've got to focus on what do we do to 348 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 3: change that narrative, to make sure that the American. 349 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: People are not dependent on China. 350 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 3: But we move that trade either to where we make 351 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 3: it in South make it in America, or we go 352 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 3: and we make it with our allies and our friends.