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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about this money. I just
Speaker 1: got to get this out the way.
Speaker 2: So if you make up if they give you a
Speaker 2: contract for fifty to one hundred ms in the NBA,
Speaker 2: NFL with it, like, how much of that do you see?
Speaker 1: How much of that do you actually does? Josh Power
Speaker 1: get to go fuck up?
Speaker 2: After you pay your agent, your taxes, your lawyers, your trainer, Like.
Speaker 1: What is that hundred m? What do the one hundred
Speaker 1: ms really mean? We'll go We'll go with the fifty
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, out the gate. Depending on
Speaker 1: where you live, you might as well have that wow
Speaker 1: out the gate just for taxes, taxes and everything else.
Speaker 1: So by the time you paid it to you if
Speaker 1: you save, for example, you in New York, save for
Speaker 1: example you in Cali, Like those are some of the
Speaker 1: highest places. Yeah, yeah, but then but then it's like,
Speaker 1: depending on where you go, they got different ways to
Speaker 1: go about it. But Texas, Florida, you know, those those
Speaker 1: those places that don't tax you. So out the gate,
Speaker 1: I would say, just assume you got half of that.
Speaker 1: Then after just then, after you pay the people that's
Speaker 1: working for you, if you got anybody, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you gotta go ahead and take probably another
Speaker 1: ticket just in case. But your agent gonna get two
Speaker 1: to three percent, you know what I'm saying. So by
Speaker 1: the time you look up man and then you I mean,
Speaker 1: but out of.
Speaker 3: Like standard management.
Speaker 1: But if they find other deals and different things like that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's like you know, that number can be whatever.
Speaker 1: So I would say if somebody's mothers and you real
Speaker 1: good with your money, might be able to and you
Speaker 1: put yourself on a budget at least twenty twenty out
Speaker 1: of their fifty. But okay, and that's that's what living
Speaker 1: all like. If you say your monthly spending is, let's
Speaker 1: just say it's thirty grand a month.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, so before you get to go buy a lamb,
Speaker 2: a chain or whatever. You're saying that one hundred turns
Speaker 2: into twenty. Said fIF fifty, I said, no, fifty.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about fifty from taxis you said no, no, no
Speaker 1: fifty instead, Yeah, started.
Speaker 3: If you have two apples and I take what.
Speaker 1: I said, fifty fifty from fifty from the.
Speaker 2: Honey, no, say you said fifty, Yeah I got so
Speaker 2: fifty fifty turns to twenty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that sounds that's still but that's cool.
Speaker 5: Yeah, ship when you think about it, it really ain't
Speaker 5: ship though. You know what I'm saying, you just looking
Speaker 5: at the number, twenty million is a lot regardless. Get
Speaker 5: that's just like you hit the number of the day
Speaker 5: for a billion dollars and they tell you U a
Speaker 5: text you get two hundred.
Speaker 1: Mean you're gonna be mad right right right now.
Speaker 3: But it's still an injustice.
Speaker 1: How you just you just ain't having with the money
Speaker 1: you bought that ticket with.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is no. But see that's my thing.
Speaker 6: I want to just speak on that real quick because
Speaker 6: like people look at it like, Okay, fuck it. I
Speaker 6: still end up with more money than I had. But
Speaker 6: at the end of the day, you're you're still being robbed,
Speaker 6: like because it's your money that you won.
Speaker 5: To me, you can't count with jene Got because at
Speaker 5: the end of the day, to me, you can't count
Speaker 5: with jene Got.
Speaker 1: I don't know how works.
Speaker 6: I feel like if I won this fair and square
Speaker 6: and you're telling me that this is what I want
Speaker 6: fair and square, like I need to win this fair
Speaker 6: And as.
Speaker 1: Soon as you hold up Jay, you're an American.
Speaker 3: Nah, I'm fucking from Indonesia.
Speaker 2: Are you a US citizen? Yes, so as soon as
Speaker 2: you sign up and get that social the security, you.
Speaker 3: Get social security, man, like you got it?
Speaker 1: Did you a lot of in the beginning? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I ain't. I ain't never been that type of person.
Speaker 1: What what What did it for me was divorce having
Speaker 1: to start over. Yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 3: So we wanting up.
Speaker 1: You got the and that, and that's a lot of
Speaker 1: there's a lot of learning curves in there, you know.
Speaker 1: So I did not damn, so I got married on
Speaker 1: and a lot of what a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: tell you is like you and again there's more information
Speaker 1: out here now, but at the time they was like,
Speaker 1: well you can get a pre numbers like I ain't
Speaker 1: got nothing. And this is at the beginning.
Speaker 3: Again because you're not thinking that far.
Speaker 1: I'm at the beginning, beginning. But it's also everything that
Speaker 1: you all accumulate together, that's what you split. So like
Speaker 1: let's say, for example, uh, I signed a pre nump
Speaker 1: right and I'm six years in, but then I signed
Speaker 1: for fifty ms within the time we married. Got to
Speaker 1: split that. Oh so it's what you come with, not
Speaker 1: what I make. No, no, no, not. I'm saying, what
Speaker 1: you make when y'all get married, like whatever happens after that,
Speaker 1: because you you might. I've seen some people hold out
Speaker 1: until they can't hold out no more. So that way
Speaker 1: everything goes to them, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 1: then they get married. But anything that you accumulate together
Speaker 1: once y'all are married, you got to split that.
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 3: Is that okay?
Speaker 6: So you're saying anything that you accumulate, accumulate while you're married,
Speaker 6: you have to.
Speaker 3: Split as far as the prenup is concerned.
Speaker 6: So basically, a pre nup really isn't an your best
Speaker 6: interest if you plan on being in a long term relations.
Speaker 1: You already got money, but it still can. But that's
Speaker 1: why saying the education that comes with it. Because you
Speaker 1: got pre nump, you got post numb. Yes, you got
Speaker 1: different things that you could do to protect to text
Speaker 1: your money, you know what I'm saying. If that's the cause.
Speaker 3: After, I mean the post up is after, so.
Speaker 1: You know that. For me, it was like I'm twenty
Speaker 1: four years old, I had already went through a previous
Speaker 1: situation because the person that I entrusted to help finance,
Speaker 1: you know, help me be in a much better financial
Speaker 1: situation stole my money, so out the gate, I was
Speaker 1: already behind the eight ball. So literally, like what I
Speaker 1: was making my rookie deal was good money, but still
Speaker 1: I'm playing makeup on top of the fact that I
Speaker 1: had a custody case going on my rookie year. So
Speaker 1: I was already with my oldest with my oldest Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I was already like in the middle of fighting
Speaker 1: and doing all of these things as well as trying
Speaker 1: to take care of myself, and I was also taking
Speaker 1: care of other family members and all that. So I
Speaker 1: was I was stretching it, making it do what to do?
Speaker 2: What would you have done different? What would I've done this?
Speaker 2: From the day you sign into the NBA? What would
Speaker 2: you have done different? I'm gonna be real with you.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's nothing for me to do different
Speaker 1: because my experiences can help somebody else. And that's that's
Speaker 1: in life. That's where I am because you learn it.
Speaker 1: And it's not that I've always been somebody that's bad
Speaker 1: with money. I ain't never been that type of person,
Speaker 1: but just knowing the things that I know now, because
Speaker 1: you know, we fall, we get back up. I didn't
Speaker 1: stay down. You know what I'm saying, So I'm in
Speaker 1: a much better place now, but what I learned from
Speaker 1: that has helped me where I am now. So if
Speaker 1: I would have changed that, then I don't know if
Speaker 1: I would have the same habits or been able to
Speaker 1: learn to do the things that I that I'm doing
Speaker 1: now because of the things that's happened.
Speaker 6: But I feel like in situations when people come into
Speaker 6: a lot of money, whether it be like some lottery
Speaker 6: shit or like some sports shit or some rap shit
Speaker 6: or whatever, and they lose their money, I be feeling
Speaker 6: like it's not necessarily like you said, that they're bad
Speaker 6: with money, but a lot of people's problem is that
Speaker 6: they're like too overly generous.
Speaker 3: And it's not that you know, they're fucking it up
Speaker 3: on like friblous shit.
Speaker 6: They're doing what they feel like they're supposed to do
Speaker 6: as the top provider of their situation.
Speaker 1: N that's a fair thing, but I think that with
Speaker 1: anything that we do, people don't appreciate what they have
Speaker 1: at the time that they have it because it ain't
Speaker 1: just money. People losing they girls, they guys, Yeah, people
Speaker 1: losing out business opportunities because at that moment you didn't
Speaker 1: appreciate it when you had it. So you always feel like,
Speaker 1: well I got fifty million, I'm good, I'm straight, or
Speaker 1: that next deal is coming and you never know because
Speaker 1: anything can happen. Yeah, So a lot of times when
Speaker 1: people get in them situation. I know for us as
Speaker 1: ball players, especially because I work with the un you
Speaker 1: now and helping players, so we do like programming and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, you know what I'm saying, and with
Speaker 1: my department, so we're helping guys with their transition. Were
Speaker 1: also helping the guys you know currently, like I said,
Speaker 1: as well as retired guys. So it's just a lot
Speaker 1: of that that goes on when when you're young and
Speaker 1: you get money, you think it's forever. So for you
Speaker 1: and your mindset, if you're not putting yourself in that position,
Speaker 1: you're not thinking what's the next thing, or how can
Speaker 1: I secure this or do this to do that.
Speaker 3: Because you think you're going to spend a check and get.
Speaker 1: It right back and listen, somebody like Lebron or Kobe
Speaker 1: or all of these different people that have been able
Speaker 1: to reach close to a billion, like they came in
Speaker 1: with the mindset on how we're gonna build how we're
Speaker 1: gonna maximize. When you see people with real money, they
Speaker 1: don't pay for anything. That was something that I learned
Speaker 1: being around like the top dogs, like I seen Kobe
Speaker 1: shooting around with people's kids, getting one hundred hours of
Speaker 1: free private jet time, like just on doing some free throw,
Speaker 1: some simple stuff like that, or doing a little signature,
Speaker 1: taking a little picture. Now you got a free little lamb.
Speaker 1: That's that's stuff we ain't thinking about. Were going we
Speaker 1: getting money, We're going, we're buying. They ain't doing that.
Speaker 1: Yeah what minute. That's why they're always in the newest thing.
Speaker 1: They in the freshest thing, like they just got this
Speaker 1: a different system at it? Who coming up?
Speaker 5: Who's your life basketball? You're like, damn, I want my
Speaker 5: game to be designed or I want to be looked
Speaker 5: at like this in the game, like who's your who's
Speaker 5: your top?
Speaker 1: So my mom introduced me to the game, and I
Speaker 1: was actually playing football and baseball when I first started.
Speaker 1: And when I first cut on the TV, the first
Speaker 1: team that I saw was the Rocket, So I saw
Speaker 1: a team of Juan, So that's my goal, and then
Speaker 1: next up would be KG. So that's why I like
Speaker 1: the number one. Yeah, I kind regard that. So I
Speaker 1: grew up watching that and I would always patting everything
Speaker 1: after that because he was like that guy for me,
Speaker 1: I've seen him do it on both ends of the floor,
Speaker 1: like giving you a bucket, go up, going the other end,
Speaker 1: strap strap up. I was like, man, I like what
Speaker 1: he's doing. So that's the only person that I could
Speaker 1: think about growing up, like those teams that I watched,
Speaker 1: like and then getting a chance to watch the Hawks
Speaker 1: because I'm a home you know this my hometown and
Speaker 1: just being able to see Mochi or see the Kimbay
Speaker 1: or see you know, Nick and all that. So those
Speaker 1: are some of the people like I looked up to
Speaker 1: patting my game after and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Man holding up that trophy as an NBA champion versus
Speaker 2: signing that massive money contract, Like which one was more
Speaker 2: gratifying to you?
Speaker 1: I think championship because it's legended, that's forever.
Speaker 3: So you wanted them to take the dinner niggas.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say I'm gonna take the dinner type
Speaker 1: of guy, but but I but I do feel for
Speaker 1: me like the the blood, sweat and tears that I
Speaker 1: put in, and it's as hard as y'all work like
Speaker 1: you want to be stamped. You want you want your
Speaker 1: name and your legacy to be seen. Many like money
Speaker 1: come and go, you know what I'm saying, But like
Speaker 1: I'm I'm in a place of gratitude and appreciation. So
Speaker 1: it's like those things like when you go to my
Speaker 1: high school, you see Boom Jim. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like when you think the South Side think of me,
Speaker 1: you feel me like I grew up Brady Jim, Like
Speaker 1: that was one of the teams I played that, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like Coach Keep, I played for Outlaw,
Speaker 1: Like these are just like the same way with Outlaw,
Speaker 1: like his name, you know, he legendre you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But that to me means a lot, because
Speaker 1: that means you've helped pave the way for something. When
Speaker 1: people speak your name like you're a part of that.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Nobody can tell make that chip away.
Speaker 3: It's historical.
Speaker 1: Nobody can take that away. Nobody can take two of
Speaker 1: them away. Yeah, you know what I mean. Like it's
Speaker 1: just a different thing you feel me like and and
Speaker 1: it ain't just about me, like I felt like that
Speaker 1: was for the South Side. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like I felt like that was for my fault, like
Speaker 1: gotty roll like all that, like where I come from,
Speaker 1: like my people, Like I felt like everything that I've
Speaker 1: done south Side Clayton County has always been on my
Speaker 1: heart no matter what.
Speaker 2: So you think the people that played and made a
Speaker 2: lot of money but they couldn't win because they had
Speaker 2: the Jordan in the way or brun in the way
Speaker 2: or step hurting them in the way. You think that
Speaker 2: they feel some type of void some of them players
Speaker 2: because they never got the hold of the trophy.
Speaker 1: Now you know, it's funny because most people, they swear
Speaker 1: they'll take the money. But then it depends on the
Speaker 1: type of competitor you are. I'm not here to say
Speaker 1: anything about what you do how you do it, but
Speaker 1: if you are a competitor the way that you say,
Speaker 1: I would think winning is important. Fact, nobody likes to
Speaker 1: be this because you lose. We know a lot of
Speaker 1: we know a lot of people with money, but we
Speaker 1: talk about the people with money who win. That's true,
Speaker 1: we don't in fact the other people that got reds.
Speaker 5: Who getting the Grammars you talk about, right, and niggas
Speaker 5: who ain't winning that's a.
Speaker 1: Part of the argument, the goats and all of that.
Speaker 1: It's like, all right, that's cool. But then the next
Speaker 1: thing up is like what puts you up there? What
Speaker 1: what they talking about on ESPN right now is like,
Speaker 1: who's the all time got? This has been the conversation forever.
Speaker 1: Is it Cold? Is it Jordan? Is it Lebron? Is
Speaker 1: it this one? Is it that one? They ain't talking
Speaker 1: about who got what money? They talking about who don't want? Who?
Speaker 1: Putting them stats up? They talking about who? You know what,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Okay, they done got for it? This? How
Speaker 1: many other points? Now they're doing it on the other end,
Speaker 1: how do you separate that person? Like that's what they
Speaker 1: talk about. Ain't ain't about no bread.
Speaker 3: They said any else?
Speaker 1: I think being being the goat, Like if he ain't
Speaker 1: talking numbers.
Speaker 5: It's really like it's really like your own preference, because
Speaker 5: some nigga might say niggas the goat because the impact
Speaker 5: they pushed off on the people.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like he could have he
Speaker 1: could have just said if you put like you said, Lebron,
Speaker 1: Kobe and Jordan, Jordan's.
Speaker 5: Altogether okay, jo ain't got the money, but he counted
Speaker 5: he impacted the coach with the shoes, with the with
Speaker 5: the rings with.
Speaker 1: It's like, you gotta put all that shit into play, right,
Speaker 1: you got to. So that what they say about Lebron too,
Speaker 1: that's a part of his argument because of the things
Speaker 1: not only doing on the court, but what he's doing
Speaker 1: off the court exactly, the schools, the businesses putting that
Speaker 1: Miers on, you ain't heard nothing crazy now to his
Speaker 1: side of his camp, like he got a tight ship
Speaker 1: over there. Nigga run for president. Real talking, be powerful, bro,
Speaker 1: real talk, you know what I'm saying. So that's something
Speaker 1: that's to be commended, man, because when you step into
Speaker 1: this role, the same thing with y'all, y'all got a
Speaker 1: powerful voice. People what y'all say, People that stamp, no
Speaker 1: matter what it is, you tell us, aboy, go vote
Speaker 1: for somebody. You tell somebody to show up, so well
Speaker 1: them people coming. There's power in that. Not everybody can
Speaker 1: do that. Everybody can't move to your beat. So that
Speaker 1: lets you know where you're at and what you own.
Speaker 2: We all saw that Cam Newton situation that he had
Speaker 2: in his camp. You know I'm saying, when he got
Speaker 2: into a little scuffle what have you? How do you
Speaker 2: as a NBA player, celebrity, public figure, how do you
Speaker 2: personally if you ever had to deal with that type
Speaker 2: of stuff deal with it? Because you know, obviously this
Speaker 2: obviously comes with you know, hate, jealousy, confusion, whatever the
Speaker 2: case is that caused that scuffle.
Speaker 1: How do you deal with as Josh Power. I think
Speaker 1: it's For one, I think it's laying like no disrespect
Speaker 1: to anybody that was involved. But I hate seeing our
Speaker 1: people behave in that matter for one. For two, I
Speaker 1: hate to see the fact that somebody's doing something in
Speaker 1: their community and to receive that type of hatred or whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever they're trying to say, Well, he says
Speaker 1: something to us crazy like we can't allow words or
Speaker 1: something to get us out of pocket.
Speaker 6: Like that he's positive and he's doing something good at
Speaker 6: the end, what.
Speaker 5: Like for real, it really wasn't positive out of it though,
Speaker 5: because your niggas.
Speaker 1: Gonna learn it. But that that that's the unfortunate part,
Speaker 1: because it's like people are doing so much good stuff
Speaker 1: and it's like something like that happened, and then it's
Speaker 1: like the culture. But then we wonder while other cultures
Speaker 1: struggle in regards to us or while we get pushed
Speaker 1: out of stuff because we don't know how to behave.
Speaker 6: And then on top of that, like Cam is a
Speaker 6: Cam is a strong person and he's from THEO and
Speaker 6: he gets it. But it's a lot of people that
Speaker 6: wouldn't understand that, and that Woulin the program, and that
Speaker 6: would not only destroy what they were trying to build,
Speaker 6: but it'll destroy the kids. And the niggas that were
Speaker 6: fighting aren't even thinking about the effect that that could
Speaker 6: have had on the kids. If he was like, fuck y'all, niggas,
Speaker 6: I'm finna kill this program because y'all want to act
Speaker 6: like animals and now these kids have nothing to do,
Speaker 6: nowhere to go and.
Speaker 3: Nothing to play.
Speaker 1: Or worse, what if somebody really really got hurt? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I think for me, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna throw this out here. Hope camp see it. But
Speaker 1: I think for me, invite them on your podcast, bro,
Speaker 1: have a conversation and y'all show man what we got
Speaker 1: to see. I don't know the guys, but that's what.
Speaker 3: Would want to talk though.
Speaker 1: But that's what we got to push for. It would
Speaker 1: be it would let's do it. Let's talk about it.
Speaker 3: Talk about it.
Speaker 6: I'm on, I'm I'm on the devil's advocate flipped hand,
Speaker 6: the other side of the situation.
Speaker 1: This is how you feel.
Speaker 6: I feel like I get that, and I get like
Speaker 6: having to talk and doing all of that, but I
Speaker 6: just feel like.
Speaker 3: I feel like.
Speaker 6: I don't I don't see like shining light on stupidity.
Speaker 3: Like I get the talk.
Speaker 6: And all of that, but they really tried it in
Speaker 6: front of the kids while he was doing something positive
Speaker 6: with his time and his money that he didn't have
Speaker 6: to do.
Speaker 1: No, that would make.
Speaker 5: Sense though what he's saying though, because we don't really
Speaker 5: know what exactly what he is, won't know what happened.
Speaker 1: There could to be a big misunderstanding.
Speaker 5: We're looking at it because he ca'm new, somebody tried,
Speaker 5: and you get what I'm saying. Anything could have happened.
Speaker 5: He could have he could have been having a bad day.
Speaker 5: I don't don't not to say that I don't know
Speaker 5: what happened. I'm just saying we never know what happens.
Speaker 5: So a conversation would be nice.
Speaker 1: But so you you have a hold on you bank
Speaker 1: got a great point. You got a great point. What
Speaker 1: I would like to say is, yes, we see enough
Speaker 1: stupidity online, we see enough stupidity in our communities and
Speaker 1: in our households. Why not have people set the example
Speaker 1: to show what emotional intelligence look like, conflict resolution looks like.
Speaker 1: Why not be the first to say, you know what,
Speaker 1: let's do that. Even as city as it is. But
Speaker 1: Cam has millions of people that's following him. He can
Speaker 1: literally set the tone and change the narrative. Instead of
Speaker 1: having everybody else speak about it, he can just address
Speaker 1: it himself. Now we're doing something different, and that's gonna
Speaker 1: put us in a different in a different light.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I feel that in everything, But but I
Speaker 6: just didn't like the way them niggas was trying to
Speaker 6: talk shit after the fact.
Speaker 1: I agree, I.
Speaker 6: Put you up everybody saying like, Okay, everybody's taking Cam
Speaker 6: side because he's Cam Newton and all that ship. But
Speaker 6: at the end of the day, bro, like I just man,
Speaker 6: I just feel like he was trying to do the
Speaker 6: right thing, and them niggas tried it like, and.
Speaker 1: That's not going I'm gonna say this too. I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not taking nobody's side because they both was pushing
Speaker 1: peace right, because at the end of the day too,
Speaker 1: there are some questions that I have even in regards
Speaker 1: to CAM, like ou done been in my area, right,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna be in my area
Speaker 1: and not have people on deck. Now, other people may
Speaker 1: not know they on deck, but yeah, there's no way
Speaker 1: CAM is supposed to be touchable like that, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So, but on another hand, to though, you're right what
Speaker 5: you're saying, But you gotta think about this. If I'm
Speaker 5: doing again for the kid, I gotta feel and let
Speaker 5: the kid feel like they can touch me. Absolutely, people too,
Speaker 5: So if I mean, it's the environment you in. So
Speaker 5: if I'm I got out the security, it make it
Speaker 5: look like what am I.
Speaker 1: I ain't saying all the security like that to your point, right,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying from the standpoint, it shouldn't have got
Speaker 1: like that. Hold hold on, hold yeah, yeah, it shouldn't
Speaker 1: got because it was like this. But then it was like, Bro,
Speaker 1: it's a whole dude that snuck up with a book bag,
Speaker 1: swung and everything.
Speaker 3: You mean to tell me nobody saw that.
Speaker 1: You feel me like he already tussling holes Come up
Speaker 1: the stairs, bro, like where you come from? What if
Speaker 1: he had some moment I got to see that. I
Speaker 1: just seem like, list, we lost somebody shooting dice and
Speaker 1: doing whatever in Houston behind not making the right decision.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Anything can happen because guys us,
Speaker 1: we get emotional and then it's like, no, bro, my
Speaker 1: ego bigger than your You're not gonna disrespect me. This
Speaker 1: is what I'm gonna do. This is what I'm on. Hey,
Speaker 1: how you get like right here? Like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because you be caught when we on the
Speaker 1: phone ship. You can keep the same energy at all times.
Speaker 1: I was, And I'm glad you asked that because my
Speaker 1: mentality growing up, I was a hot head. A lot
Speaker 1: of people don't know that. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: first of all, I was an introvert. I was dealing
Speaker 1: with my pain and different things I had going on.
Speaker 1: But when I started getting a check. It happened before
Speaker 1: that because in college, when I had a grown man
Speaker 1: tell me, f me go back home and all that,
Speaker 1: I was like, that's what we own. Bro, I'm a kid.
Speaker 1: You're supposed to be here to help me. But they
Speaker 1: started messing with my playing time. You see what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So now you mess with my money. That was in college,
Speaker 1: they got so much power control. If you my coach
Speaker 1: and you don't like me for whatever reason, he just say,
Speaker 1: you know what, I got something big, don I'm just
Speaker 1: not gonna play him. I've been working my whole life
Speaker 1: for this opportunity. Now you just like bump brouh. I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna play because I just don't like him. I
Speaker 1: could be the best one on the team. So when
Speaker 1: I went to Overseas, sorry, when I went NBA first
Speaker 1: and then went Overseas and then started going on my journey,
Speaker 1: I started seeing how the behaviors is impacting guys' livelihood.
Speaker 1: Why would I want to mess with that.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 1: I had to flip a switch quick, because it's gonna
Speaker 1: mess with with my name, it's gonna mess with how
Speaker 1: people are viewing me. Now you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That gets in the way of my check. So I
Speaker 1: had to pipe down, bro. And it's the hardest thing,
Speaker 1: especially when somebody disrespect you would get out of pocket
Speaker 1: because you willing to stand on being a man first.
Speaker 1: But then I understood that a part of being a
Speaker 1: man is having that strength to say no, having that
Speaker 1: strength to walk away. Hey, bro, you got it. I
Speaker 1: don't want no problems. So it wasn't though like specific
Speaker 1: you saying that's the incident like that was one because
Speaker 1: over time I really was on that type of time, like, Bro,
Speaker 1: I'll see you like and people can never see me
Speaker 1: that way cause they're like, Bro, you've always so come
Speaker 1: like Bro, for real could go there. I really got
Speaker 1: that deep, deep, deep deep embedded in my bones, bro,
Speaker 1: because I came up having to fight and do certain
Speaker 1: things because of the way I was treated, because of
Speaker 1: the things that I went through, Bro, Like when I
Speaker 1: stayed at Old Tambilla, Bro, we was fighting doing all
Speaker 1: that off. You know what I'm saying. Being jumped was like, Bru,
Speaker 1: I got jumped one time, br by seven people bright
Speaker 1: had an asthma tack bad because I got asthma. Two
Speaker 1: folk jumped down on me over some bull like I
Speaker 1: don't even remember what it was, but I still remember
Speaker 1: those incidents, you know what I'm saying. I got a
Speaker 1: lot of those that I can account on. But then,
Speaker 1: because we always talk about what we do here, I'll
Speaker 1: never forget going overseas and you on somebody else turf,
Speaker 1: So playing for Mafia own team for example, and the
Speaker 1: stuff that be going down. Bro, you got the move different?
Speaker 1: You either move different or you ain't coming home. It's
Speaker 1: however you want to play it. So y'all got it? Bro,
Speaker 1: I ain't. I don't seen too much. That's that's the
Speaker 1: other reason why I'm just like, I'm cool.
Speaker 5: I don't know, brother, how hard was it like being
Speaker 5: like NBA playing like on the road for like being
Speaker 5: in a relationship.
Speaker 1: It's hard. It's hard being on the road, and it's
Speaker 1: hard being presents because it takes it takes work two
Speaker 1: individuals that are both for one dealing with their past
Speaker 1: traumas and everything else. And then when you get set
Speaker 1: in your ways, if you're not willing to do the work.
Speaker 1: So now y'all seeing life totally different. The way you
Speaker 1: view problem solving is totally different. Don't add kids to
Speaker 1: the mix because now you you think in your way
Speaker 1: might be better than the other person way. And y'all
Speaker 1: not talking like communication is key, But in communication a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't think about listening. There some power
Speaker 1: in listening, you know what I'm saying. We were so
Speaker 1: ready to do this, this, this, and this, but were
Speaker 1: not willing to listen. How can I understand you if
Speaker 1: I don't listen to you react right, and a lot
Speaker 1: of people it's like you'll talk, but I'm so ready
Speaker 1: to I ain't heard nothing about what you like, what
Speaker 1: you don't like, what you come from. Because that's gonna
Speaker 1: help me manage this relationship. If I love you, food
Speaker 1: with you the way that I say, I need to
Speaker 1: listen to you facts. If that's a fact, I can
Speaker 1: sit on the phone, bro, like for real me and
Speaker 1: you don't chop it up. Plenty of time, bro, we
Speaker 1: just chop it up whatever you got going on, because
Speaker 1: I need to listen what bank going on. I'm listening
Speaker 1: to a lot of things, not just what he's saying.
Speaker 1: I'm listening to his temperament, or if we're in person,
Speaker 1: I'm watching his temperament. There's a lot of things that
Speaker 1: I get just in being present in the moment. All right, cool,
Speaker 1: I got it. I see what bank on, I see
Speaker 1: what King, I see what queen. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying just by paying attention because I want to be
Speaker 1: able to develop up a level of trust with you
Speaker 1: all or whoever the person is I can't do that
Speaker 1: if I feel like, nah, but I got it. Okay,
Speaker 1: you talk, okay, cool, I'm ready, I got I got
Speaker 1: the next thing. And it's like they gonna walk away
Speaker 1: feeling kind of like he seemed cool, but I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't really know, bro, it's something about brother. I
Speaker 1: ain't really feeling that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then the other part to that is too, like
Speaker 1: understand the situations because when I have people that tell
Speaker 1: me they love me, do the things that they've done
Speaker 1: to me that let me know too, I need to
Speaker 1: be tuned in a little differently. But what pushed you
Speaker 1: in the podcast? Like relationship matag now it's dope, it's dope.
Speaker 1: Shout out to you, now, what pushed you in the podcast?
Speaker 1: Because everything that we do deal with relationships, everything, business, friendships, family,
Speaker 1: being a parent, you know, your kids, all your significant other.
Speaker 1: Everything that we do has to do with relationships. So
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, when I first because I
Speaker 1: had people hit me like you know, talk about sports
Speaker 1: or do this or do that. Man, it's bigger than that.
Speaker 1: I want to I want to separate myself. Like if
Speaker 1: you go on my page, I barely post anything basketball.
Speaker 1: People don't even know who. It's a lot of people
Speaker 1: that just really don't know who. And to me, that's
Speaker 1: cool because it's like you get a chance to get
Speaker 1: to know me as a person versus yeah, like bro
Speaker 1: who But nah, I want.
Speaker 3: You to know me, not two time championship winner.
Speaker 1: That's great, but I rather I'd rather I rather you
Speaker 1: know me. I feel like I feel like I don't
Speaker 1: I don't sit here if he don't know my spirit. Fact,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like the.
Speaker 5: Red Ship, what you're saying, because even even not even
Speaker 5: just in spirit, like, I want you to know me
Speaker 5: in it now, like a lot of people know me
Speaker 5: from from now for podcasts, then you.
Speaker 1: Got people that knew me from this me from me,
Speaker 1: So I want you to know that now me. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I don't want you to know the.
Speaker 5: Reputation it because your reputation sometimes Yeah, So I want
Speaker 5: you to know the like you say, know me when
Speaker 5: you see me, know me, like oh okay, I see
Speaker 5: the bank on like you just said. You know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Cause this nigga that don't even know that
Speaker 5: I'm the same bank that was in the movie. People
Speaker 5: don't even know that I'm the same bank. They had
Speaker 5: a record label that people don't know that I'm the
Speaker 5: same bank. They just did a lot of different shit,
Speaker 5: had a song with Candy.
Speaker 1: And all this shit. They don't know. It's it's like
Speaker 1: ten different niggas. But that's the beautiful part of the journey,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And that's that's the thing
Speaker 1: for me, is because I love I love the journey.
Speaker 1: But the other thing that I learned about the journey
Speaker 1: is as you continue to grow, it gets lonely because
Speaker 1: not everybody is seeing that thing the way that you're seeing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: did to get real lonely? Bro, because you know, you
Speaker 1: feel like, man, I'm having conversations people just ain't understanding.
Speaker 1: Not that you have to agree that they see you,
Speaker 1: they understand. I get where you're getting at. Now, let
Speaker 1: me challenge you on this, all right, Cool, let's add
Speaker 1: that conversation. Yeah, I'm willing to go there. But everything else, Man,
Speaker 1: it's hard. But I wouldn't change it for the world
Speaker 1: because I don't want to be the type of person
Speaker 1: where I was the hot head or I'm talking to
Speaker 1: people crazy or doing certain things. I want to be
Speaker 1: the type of person that move on, especially not being
Speaker 1: in a relationship like you can't. If you want your
Speaker 1: relationship to be positive and to flourish, you got to
Speaker 1: understand grace, You got to understand forgiveness, You got the
Speaker 1: mimble of it all that you got to move forward
Speaker 1: because it's more. The most important thing is y'all ain't
Speaker 1: got nothing to do with me. I gotta let that
Speaker 1: out the window. So that's why the relationship thing, man,
Speaker 1: it's so beautiful because yeah, everybody in it, but what
Speaker 1: are we doing in it? And then in the space
Speaker 1: that me and her have because we're coming from two
Speaker 1: totally different perspectives. That's what makes it great. Because you
Speaker 1: either got the man thing the woman thing, or you
Speaker 1: got couples and then that's it. And then depending on
Speaker 1: who you're talking to, it's either pro woman bash man,
Speaker 1: pro man bash woman, somebody losing, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: instead of just like we're trying to do this thing together.
Speaker 1: You feel me because that's the only way. And this,
Speaker 1: this war or whatever this is between men and women,
Speaker 1: especially in our community, it's a real.
Speaker 2: Thing man, in big fact tradition. Like I said, we
Speaker 2: talked to Big Baby about this. We talked to the
Speaker 2: Will about this, Steve Jackson, EMU SHUMPERD. But I want
Speaker 2: to know from the Latin.
Speaker 1: Naty, who are the basketball rapping goats? The basketball goats, yes,
Speaker 1: three of them, the ghats of basketball rapping. Does it
Speaker 1: matter like current or just of all greatest of all time?
Speaker 1: That's the greatest because I always jump out there and
Speaker 1: say shack, and then they jump on me because I
Speaker 1: say shack, but you said shock. Because of the rewards,
Speaker 1: the plaques. Yeah, it's some hard songs that people still
Speaker 1: listen to. He had a song Biggie that people still
Speaker 1: listen to. Is that because the Biggie? I'm not getting
Speaker 1: into that. Oh you should see. We could see all
Speaker 1: say we could we can say.
Speaker 2: We can say people the person on the Lakers right
Speaker 2: that didn't play, that was on the bench, way on
Speaker 2: the side and get no minutes, still got a ring.
Speaker 1: They're champion right, technically they are. I got an argument
Speaker 1: for them too because I'm one on them that people
Speaker 1: like to tell me about me too, So that's cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: min this though, but people will just spread it. That's
Speaker 1: the beautiful part about the conversation. Yeah, and I'm a
Speaker 1: realist bro like it's not. It's never gonna hurt my feelings,
Speaker 1: like for me, you know what I'm saying. The league,
Speaker 1: the league is going on for seventy eight or seventy nine.
Speaker 1: Have a long the league has been going on, right,
Speaker 1: there's only been almost five thousand people to wear a jersey.
Speaker 1: I'm one of them, so I don't have You could
Speaker 1: call me a bitch more you could say. But I
Speaker 1: also got nine years in of service, so it's like
Speaker 1: I wasn't like the one and done, which is nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with that. I was able to get a couple
Speaker 1: of years under my belt. There's something to be said
Speaker 1: for that. There's something to be said for a person
Speaker 1: to get a tryout that's not that's not easy, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I think that it's fair
Speaker 1: and to your point because we can talk about all
Speaker 1: this nothing. But I wouldn't give Shaq that because he
Speaker 1: had Biggie on the song. Cause Shaq really really go
Speaker 1: bar for bar without any of that other stuff going
Speaker 1: on I'm thinking about. But they like it. But he
Speaker 1: came in the era and this is just for conversational purpose,
Speaker 1: but he came in the era where he was able
Speaker 1: to use his status and everything else like shot is
Speaker 1: popping man. Some of the people using everything movies, music,
Speaker 1: get all the chicks. They're gonna give it to you,
Speaker 1: go get it. Some other people use their status amazing,
Speaker 1: Please talk about God.
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 1: Listen, I jump with about that. So you ain't saying music.
Speaker 1: Wan Cold Cole has some music. Yeah, so for mees
Speaker 1: stack be going, uh a little be going. I don't
Speaker 1: know if people mentioned his name, but Markue's Dames, Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, look at him. He was hard. Yeah, trying
Speaker 1: to think who else in there?
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: Emon shump shumps some cool Yeah, I got I got
Speaker 1: some stuff. Who garbage? Garbage? Oh?
Speaker 2: I didn't love Kobe. I didn't love Kobe music. Who
Speaker 2: else I didn't love Kobe music. I can't think of
Speaker 2: nobody right now, but a lot of a lot of garbage.
Speaker 1: I didn't like his music. You know, you know, Dwan
Speaker 1: Blair had a record, had some some music, the Wan Blair.
Speaker 1: I don't even know Bro he played with the Spurs.
Speaker 1: I don't even know. Listen, Bron Bron is Bron is producing.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Bron been on the KD just
Speaker 1: kind of snapped on Katy got a few.
Speaker 3: Little you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna check kt stuff out. But I thought
Speaker 1: bron was produced because he just he did two changes
Speaker 1: on yeah yeah. So now they in it. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to think who else though I know God listen and
Speaker 1: I know them too, especially currently right now the name
Speaker 1: just say propativity. I know the teams. I've seen Miles
Speaker 1: Bridges do some stuff that uh man, big featherure nasty
Speaker 1: work too.
Speaker 5: So they say, else, how hard was it like staying
Speaker 5: focus like through school and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: to just stay like focus.
Speaker 1: On the ball, then go to the streets matter, how
Speaker 1: hard was it? Wow? I think that whether you play
Speaker 1: ball or don't play ball, or focus is hard. It's hard.
Speaker 1: It's hard right now. Ain't gonna lie to you because
Speaker 1: I'm in a different part of my journey. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like spirusly being two years in baptized,
Speaker 1: so I don't go out. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I stopped drinking and smoking and the edibles and the
Speaker 1: additional women. It's harder, no, cap it's death.
Speaker 3: So that in like you ordered an extra piece of chicken.
Speaker 1: Now it is hard because you know when when you
Speaker 1: striving and you want to be in certain places, Hey, man,
Speaker 1: turn it. I don't look at it. The motherfucker. You
Speaker 1: gotta turn it on. You gotta sacrifice.
Speaker 3: Motheruger went from an oven to a freezer fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: That ship on sixty eight man, turn it off, and hey,
Speaker 1: what was that?
Speaker 5: My bad?
Speaker 1: Put my hoodie on. Now you just talking about the focus, man,
Speaker 1: and you know it's it's nothing. It's nothing easy about
Speaker 1: trying to be a better version of you. So I've
Speaker 1: been on that. I've been on that journe it.
Speaker 3: For forty bars.
Speaker 1: I might that what you do, what you do to do,
Speaker 1: like when it do get hard, like when your mind
Speaker 1: be trying to play tricks. I ain't trying to shift
Speaker 1: on what you do with's some of the something shit
Speaker 1: you do to So beforehand, because I know people you know,
Speaker 1: can hear what they want to hear now. But beforehand,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I would dabble a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know, I might slide to a little strip club
Speaker 1: before before folks get up in there. I'm one of them.
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want to be in
Speaker 1: there when that thing jumping. I want to go in
Speaker 1: there and you know, stretch my wings a little bit,
Speaker 1: watch a little TV.
Speaker 3: Right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't I don't want no. I don't want
Speaker 1: no problem. So but something like that was cool, like
Speaker 1: where you could just go. That doesn't mean I was
Speaker 1: on anything crazy. It was just the entertainment. Watching a
Speaker 1: little TV, eating a little food, having some good conversation.
Speaker 1: Go home. You get to see a little something. Go home.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I go to the I
Speaker 1: like going to the movies. During my playing my playing days,
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time in the studio. I'm
Speaker 1: a big music here, big music head making music or
Speaker 1: just giving. Sometimes I give my input, other times just
Speaker 1: sit in on sessions. I'm talking about. Been in there
Speaker 1: with Polo I done, been in there with Timberlin. I
Speaker 1: don't been in there with heavy hitters. Man. I went
Speaker 1: to I listened to the chron two album at dre spot.
Speaker 1: I had a chance to like really just tap in
Speaker 1: man and just have some fun and connect with artists,
Speaker 1: have the conversations about who's the best and all of
Speaker 1: those different things. So that was what I did then
Speaker 1: what I do now, I'll pick up the phone, reach
Speaker 1: out to a brother. You know what I'm saying, tap
Speaker 1: in with him. I'll read that Bible, I'll watch a sermon.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I write, read, meditate, go
Speaker 1: for a walk, workout. That's what my mom went to
Speaker 1: the gail late night yesterday. The all thing you be
Speaker 1: got there slipping back and forth like your mind. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. In my mind, bro, I'm there
Speaker 1: right now, be one hundred with you, bro, and that
Speaker 1: that that'd be my thing. Like, especially like when you
Speaker 1: share with somebody that you're a believer, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: all that just go out the window, and it's like, no,
Speaker 1: it don't. I'm a man still, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: My mind still be all over the place sometime, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I'm I'm always working on that.
Speaker 1: The thing that I am proud of is like no
Speaker 1: action mm hmm. So I'm not doing that the way
Speaker 1: that I used to do that.
Speaker 3: Okay, understood?
Speaker 1: Overstood? Then why Atlanta, Bro? Like, because I was you
Speaker 1: played for a lot of teams, so you played overseas
Speaker 1: and everything. Why Atlanta? Why you felt like I gotta
Speaker 1: go back to Atlanta? This way I gotta live being
Speaker 1: from here, growing up here, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think Atlanta's beautiful. Man. I feel like our people,
Speaker 1: the way that we move, how we talk, the way
Speaker 1: we dress, you know what I'm saying. And you might
Speaker 1: have somebody clean, they might have, you know, to fit it,
Speaker 1: to fit it outfit on you go on the south
Speaker 1: side of everything. Three x t stem, three x three
Speaker 1: x sweat stem. You feel me like, but we are,
Speaker 1: we are who we are, you know. I think that's
Speaker 1: the thing that I appreciate the most. And Atlanta is
Speaker 1: a straight flight from here to anywhere in the world.
Speaker 1: Can't beat that, and I love it. Man. I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, we don't put on like real Atlanta people like,
Speaker 1: ain't no putting on. You know, you know who you are,
Speaker 1: whatever side you're from, with how you move, how you move,
Speaker 1: And that's the thing I appreciate. I've lived in a
Speaker 1: lot of different places because of the teams I played
Speaker 1: for and stuff like that, so I had a chance
Speaker 1: to like kind of witness the cultures, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I think that another beautiful thing too,
Speaker 1: is you know, you can raise your family here. You
Speaker 1: know what, I'm saying, there's a lot of history and
Speaker 1: culture here in the city. So there's a lot that
Speaker 1: I that I appreciate about about Atlanta and how we
Speaker 1: are as people. You know what I'm saying. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: It was one of the places you moved to that
Speaker 1: might have been a little bit of a struggle though,
Speaker 1: like maybe even overseas he was there, he was getting
Speaker 1: the bread, he was hooping, but you was like, man, listen,
Speaker 1: I went to China during the lockout. I went to
Speaker 1: China a few times, but I was in a like
Speaker 1: a third class cities. What that means is it's not Americanized.
Speaker 1: So like if you go to a Beijing, they speak English,
Speaker 1: you got a lot of like it feels like New York.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, where I was, No folks spoke no English.
Speaker 1: Ten inches of snow. During the time I was there,
Speaker 1: I stayed at my room in the hotel. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: stayed at my room the all time. So they had
Speaker 1: either McDonald's. We was able to find a cool little
Speaker 1: Chinese spot that you you know, that you can trust
Speaker 1: for the most part. And then and then they had
Speaker 1: like pizza. Pizza hud is a big thing over there,
Speaker 1: so they treat like the piece of huod is like
Speaker 1: Ruth Chris like, it's top tier service everything. So now
Speaker 1: what n KFC crazy, Yeah, go crazy. It tastes different.
Speaker 1: It's the price so that that money is different. I
Speaker 1: don't know because you know the dollars change obviously now
Speaker 1: with everything going on. But back then, man, I mean
Speaker 1: you can make a dub stretch for sure, just to
Speaker 1: show you know what I'm saying, you make a dumb stretch.
Speaker 1: But the dope thing about like overseas is like they
Speaker 1: pay for everything, so they give you for dim you know,
Speaker 1: your spot is free, like you don't have to do
Speaker 1: none of that. You got a driver, you got a
Speaker 1: babysitter which is your translator. You got all of that
Speaker 1: going on. So you just make a call, bro, You
Speaker 1: just you know what I'm saying. They cater to you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's love like. And then when you're going everywhere
Speaker 1: like them folks really will they mob? They come down?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, So how don't you stay
Speaker 1: that time? The two times that I went and played
Speaker 1: done that season was like six months. Six months. Could
Speaker 1: you consider yourself like if you had to build a
Speaker 1: like five year, ten year stript Yeah, especially with the
Speaker 1: bull going on in the States. Yeah, I'll be out
Speaker 1: if I could pick my city.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But even if I couldn't pick my city and I
Speaker 1: got my family, you know, my folks with men, I'll
Speaker 1: make it stress because you're gonna be over there with
Speaker 1: a bad brother. Listen to folks be living bro. When
Speaker 1: I wasn't playing in the Philippines, our gm bro had
Speaker 1: a compound. This man had three mansions on one property,
Speaker 1: a zoo. He had three different drivers. Every kid had
Speaker 1: their own nanny like those folks live different though, like
Speaker 1: the American dollars stretch Bro. Listen, he had his spot.
Speaker 1: The people that stayed and took care of the property
Speaker 1: had literally their own mansion, like crazy they living bro.
Speaker 2: Was it did you have like I remember overseas like
Speaker 2: sometimes like like a big hotel room as small as fuck,
Speaker 2: Like did you have that problem too?
Speaker 1: It the bell was too small and they had the
Speaker 1: toilet was like down. So it was just when you
Speaker 1: travel because obviously in your home city they want to
Speaker 1: make sure, like they paying you that type of money,
Speaker 1: they gonna make sure you straight. So I had like
Speaker 1: a big sweep that was cool, But when you travel man,
Speaker 1: I done had the shower with the toilet in the shower,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Or the toilet that's in
Speaker 1: the flow. I dodne had. I had a situation one time.
Speaker 1: The room was so nasty and infested, but I couldn't
Speaker 1: I couldn't go stay in another room. So I had
Speaker 1: to put a full sweatsuit on. I had the time
Speaker 1: of face up in that joint and go to sleep
Speaker 1: like this, bro, like like like bugs everything and that thing.
Speaker 1: But what can you do? Like you on the road,
Speaker 1: you in the city, and I called, I called my person.
Speaker 1: I said, hey, man, you gotta tell them they got
Speaker 1: tight know what we're doing. He called. They said, we
Speaker 1: ain't got no more results. So what I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: through it? I was sick, bro, But you know, I
Speaker 1: just stayed in a lot of places. Man. I played
Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico. They had some stuff going on. Sometimes. Man,
Speaker 1: you might go three no water m hm, So you
Speaker 1: gotta go to the stove, try to buy the bottle
Speaker 1: of water and take the showers and do it like that.
Speaker 1: You saying, like the shower water is fucked up too
Speaker 1: all that, bro. They might shut the whole water off
Speaker 1: on the island, you might just play a whole game.
Speaker 1: Bro in Kate Wash, i'd've been in all that. That's
Speaker 1: not what you get paid play basketball. You get paid
Speaker 1: to play basketball. But to the other question, when you ask,
Speaker 1: like why are you always like this? And it's like
Speaker 1: I done seen it all, Like I don't come from nothing,
Speaker 1: And even when I got to a certain place, you
Speaker 1: gotta be humble because you're playing on other people's turf.
Speaker 1: Like whatever the situation is, what what I'm gonna do?
Speaker 1: What can I do if it's an island issue, What
Speaker 1: can I do if it's a city issue? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like there's nothing that I could do.
Speaker 1: And then like, for example, being in Venezuela, like we
Speaker 1: was over there when the riots was going up. So
Speaker 1: I have seen the folks cut up. I've been watching
Speaker 1: a movie, you know, being hard hited because they like,
Speaker 1: stay in your room, don't leave the hotel type stuff.
Speaker 1: I go out anyway, go watch a movie, come out, brother,
Speaker 1: folks shoot tear tear gas, shoot shoot bullets of people,
Speaker 1: the whole show. And I'm caught up in that trying
Speaker 1: to get back to my room. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But what can you do because you stuck in the room,
Speaker 1: you feel crazy. You got to get out and breathe
Speaker 1: every now and then. So for me, that's what I
Speaker 1: would take off.
Speaker 5: So what you think like throughout your journey, what you
Speaker 5: came up with, like the key to having a happy
Speaker 5: life here? You know how you, how you when you
Speaker 5: when you find you're inner piece that you got like
Speaker 5: you kind of know it should.
Speaker 1: Keep my happiness. This for me, the key is not happiness,
Speaker 1: is contentment because people are dying behind being happy or sad.
Speaker 1: So I got to be I got to be here
Speaker 1: and just be grateful that I get to wake up
Speaker 1: every day that I get another chance to be better,
Speaker 1: that I got a roof over my head, close on
Speaker 1: my back. That's where I'm at. The happiness part, that's great.
Speaker 1: Like if I if I have a great day, cool,
Speaker 1: I'm having it. I'm struggling with my mental health right
Speaker 1: now as we speak, bro, because it's things that I
Speaker 1: got to deal with that's going on in my life
Speaker 1: court wise these kids, Like there's stuff going on right
Speaker 1: now and in order for me to just keep it here,
Speaker 1: like unless I speak on it, people wouldn't know because
Speaker 1: I'm just here and that's a real thing. But I'm
Speaker 1: sharing that with y'all because it's important for guys especially,
Speaker 1: Like it's okay, you know what I'm saying, Like keep fighting,
Speaker 1: keep doing what you can to stay with it, because
Speaker 1: your mental health and wellness, bro. Like we all can
Speaker 1: put on, Bro, Like we all can put on especially
Speaker 1: now we got social media, or even if it ain't
Speaker 1: a social media thing, we can still put on because
Speaker 1: that's in our nature to make people feel like we okay.
Speaker 1: But it's okay to not be okay. But it's also
Speaker 1: okay to express that you're not okay. And just how
Speaker 1: do how do we get over that humps? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I'm on that journey, bro, and
Speaker 1: it's nothing easier about it.
Speaker 2: Give us some books, bro, because you're a big reader, right.
Speaker 2: It was like a few books that you would recommend
Speaker 2: to us, just people that might have impacted impacted you
Speaker 2: somewhere man.
Speaker 1: First one, I say that Bible. Second book, I would
Speaker 1: say The Alchemists. Alchemist is hard. Phil Jackson gave me
Speaker 1: a book, The Role Let's Travel. I like that one.
Speaker 1: Also many what I wish I knew y'all, Go ahead
Speaker 1: and check that thing out and you feel me. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, y'all let your boy man go ahead,
Speaker 1: pick that thing up.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're talking about We talked about love and relationships
Speaker 1: and how to be a better me. Who else that
Speaker 1: what drummer boy got a book that beyond the be Like,
Speaker 1: I'm suing everybody because we are artists, bro like our
Speaker 1: author excuse me, our authors, man, and I think it's
Speaker 1: dope that that we're doing this. You need to have
Speaker 1: a book, queen. You need to have a book. You
Speaker 1: need to have a book. We all need to you
Speaker 1: feel me, Yeah, because it's you self published. So I
Speaker 1: wish get that.
Speaker 3: Figure it out.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm gonna get that. I'm gonna get definitely sure.
Speaker 1: So y'all check us out, man, and keep plugging away.
Speaker 1: What I wish I knew.
Speaker 2: Most definitely final words gems everything for the people, for
Speaker 2: the fans, for the big fact supporters.
Speaker 3: To lead to the viewers from the south side.
Speaker 1: From the south side. Uh, I think for me, man,
Speaker 1: continue continue to state the course, you know, focus on yourself,
Speaker 1: take the necessary steps to do the work that you're doing.
Speaker 1: Surround yourself with the right people, and the right energy
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and don't allow people's situations
Speaker 1: and circumstances to get you out of out of kilter
Speaker 1: man and wherever you want to go, attack that each
Speaker 1: and every day had the right mindset, and it's okay
Speaker 1: to fail, continue to fail until you succeed. And even
Speaker 1: sometimes in success success, there's still failure and things that happen,
Speaker 1: but it's all a part of growth. So you know,
Speaker 1: for me, there's so many things that I know I
Speaker 1: live by and that I got to continue to forgive myself.
Speaker 1: But I think showing love too, So even when you
Speaker 1: don't have it, it's important to let others know how
Speaker 1: amazing they are. That's why I wanted to start off
Speaker 1: by just telling y'all, man, keep doing what y'all doing.
Speaker 3: We appreciate.
Speaker 1: You know, Salute to y'all, and thank y'all for having
Speaker 1: me on. For sure, it is.
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