1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: We bring in Brady Quinn, Fox College football analyst, former 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 2: Notre Dame quarterback. Also the show that precedes hours on 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: Fox Sports, The Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 2: He's going to be at the Big House. It's Ohio 7 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: State Michigan Saturday, nine am Eastern is when they get started, 8 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: big noon kickoff. How would you compare Notre Dame USC 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: to Michigan and Ohio State rivalry. 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 3: Well, I grew up in Columbus, Ohio, So I've got 11 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 3: a pretty good idea of the differences between its two 12 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 3: only because of the nature of both schools, how close 13 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 3: they are in proximity, the types of players that they 14 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 3: traditionally recruit in both states, you know, the top players, 15 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 3: and so it's just an entirely different feel between its 16 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 3: two because they're both two Midwest schools. And so it's 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 3: not a battle of culture where you get that a 18 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 3: little bit with you know, Catholicism and Notre Dame in 19 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 3: the Midwest versus like the so cow laid bag, like 20 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 3: let's go out and surf and I don't want to 21 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 3: believe in anything, or I believe in everything. So it's 22 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 3: a very stark contrast between the two fan bases for 23 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: SC Notre Dame versus what you get in Michigan in 24 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 3: Ohio State. I mean, these are two programs and two 25 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 3: schools know that you know each other so well. There's 26 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 3: so much history behind it, just in regards to even 27 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 3: the coaching staffs and all of that. So I would 28 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 3: say with Notre Dame SC, there's tradition, there's history, there's both. 29 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 4: Schools kind of honoring, at least used to. 30 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: I don't know if that tradition will continue, but honoring 31 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: kind of the differences between the two. 32 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 4: With Ohio State Michigan, I don't feel like either or 33 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 4: honoring anything. 34 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 3: I feel like it's a he it's you against us, 35 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 3: and that's all that matters this one day every year, 36 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: and depending on the outcome, we're never going to forget 37 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 3: it for theer in sixty four days, regardless of how 38 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 3: well our team does in the playoff, for even winning 39 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 3: a national championship. 40 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: Michigan's an oh by the way, what nine and two 41 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: I get they don't feel threatening, but you know, in 42 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 2: this game it does. I mean we've seen where better teams, 43 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: better records, doesn't matter how dangerous is Michigan in this game. 44 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 4: I think they're more dangerous than last year. I mean, 45 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 4: they're playing at home. 46 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 3: They've got a freshman quarterback who oozes with talent and ability, 47 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 3: and he's started to develop chemistry with this freshman wide 48 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: receiver Andrew marsh McCauley's coming along. So the passing game 49 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 3: has kind of seen more bright spots of late than 50 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: bad spots. 51 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 4: So I would say if you're looking at this matchup. 52 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: After last year, when I think Davis warrenth threw for 53 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 3: like sixty yards and they're playing in Columbus, they were 54 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 3: the biggest underdogs they've ever been in this rivalry. Yeah, 55 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 3: this year, they've got a much better team and should 56 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,119 Speaker 3: have a better chance of imposing their will and doing 57 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: what they do every single time these two teams have 58 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,839 Speaker 3: played over the last four years head into five years, 59 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 3: is Michigan's going to try to make you play this 60 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 3: game in a phone booth, and they're gonna try to 61 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: win the trenches. They're gonna limit the amount of possessions 62 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 3: of Ohio State gets, and they're gonna try to eliminate 63 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 3: guys like Jeremiah Smith and Carnelzate and the big playability 64 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 3: of this offense, and say we want you to try 65 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: to run the football and be better than us. We're 66 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: not gonna let you win this game throwing to two 67 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 3: of the best players in the entire country will be 68 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 3: first round draft picks, and we'll see if you can 69 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 3: do it. 70 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 2: If he would answer, what would you ask Lane Kiffin today? 71 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 3: I would ask him what is the one determining factor 72 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 3: in where he's going to go next? 73 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 4: Like, what's the number one thing you're are prioritizing most? 74 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: But what do you think it is? 75 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 3: I'm not a big offer, one hundred million dollars contract reportedly, 76 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 3: Dan so I would say it's it's hard for any 77 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 3: human being to turn down what is generational wealth. You're 78 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: offered that sort of opportunity. 79 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: But all knows they're going to match that, so let's 80 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: take money out of this. So then yet, but just 81 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: now it still comes down to money with nil and collectives, 82 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: you know, the roster, all of that. But is this 83 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: just I can get more talent? There is he going 84 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: to fall? Not fall the victim too? But Brian Kelly 85 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: couldn't win a national title, you know, in his mind 86 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: at Notre Dame, So I'm going to LSU where I've 87 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: got all of this talent. Is that what this comes 88 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: down to, is Lane Kiffin going to follow? 89 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 4: Yeah? 90 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 3: I mean I think if you look at that decision 91 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: Brian Brian Kelly and retrospect, now you kind of looking 92 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 3: back on it like, well else kind of foolish. But 93 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 3: I think there's a star contrast between Lane Kiff and 94 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 3: Brian Kelly in the sense that like Lane Kiffin is 95 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,239 Speaker 3: willing to recruit. I mean, half the time he's driving 96 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 3: around in a nice car with a recruit in the back, 97 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 3: they're filming. 98 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 4: Some sort of video. Brian Kelly didn't want to do that. 99 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 3: And so if you look at what makes Lane successful 100 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 3: at Ole miss and what can make him successful at 101 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 3: LSU or Florida, it's the fact that not only do 102 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 3: you just really have to I mean, you can recruit 103 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 3: nationally for a number of players, but you don't have 104 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 3: to go too far in that region or in that 105 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 3: state before you find some of the best players in 106 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 3: the country. 107 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 4: So if it's not. 108 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: Money and it really comes down to your best chance 109 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 3: of winning a national championship, I think you'd have to 110 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 3: look at the track record of LSU head coaches and 111 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 3: say it's probably LSU. 112 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 4: Then now is could it get messy? 113 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 3: Of course, when you have a good opener, getting involved 114 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: with the conversation around the head coach had that institution. 115 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 3: But I do think if you look at the track 116 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 3: record of at Orizaran, Les Miles, Nicksaban, if you're a 117 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 3: Lane Kiffen and you're saying, maybe we've hit our ceiling 118 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 3: at Old Miss, then LSU would be that next job 119 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 3: that comes up, and I feel like would give him 120 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 3: the best chance. 121 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 5: To do so. 122 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 2: If USC could hire Lane Kiffen, do you think they 123 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: would do that? 124 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 4: Well, let me ask you this. 125 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 3: Over the last four years, all right, Lane Kiffin's record, 126 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 3: I believe so off the top of my head, is 127 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 3: like thirty nine and eleven. He's got two on one 128 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: in bowl games, never won a conference champion ship, and 129 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 3: the highest he's finished in the polls is eleventh. It's 130 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: probably gonna be different this year. If you look at 131 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 3: Lincoln Riley's record, I think he's thirty four and seventeen, 132 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: also two and one goal games high Seed's finished his 133 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 3: twelfth in the final poll. 134 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 4: How different really are they? 135 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: It was brought up to me last night by a 136 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: college source saying, I'm asking you the. 137 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 4: Question, like, how different are they? 138 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 2: It feels like Lane overachieved and Lincoln underachieved. 139 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 3: But doesn't it take a job like a blue blood 140 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: like sc then to determine whether someone over underachieved. Like 141 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 3: it's kind of all upside and old miss unless you 142 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 3: just completely flam out. And that's where if you go 143 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 3: to an LSU and you're not meeting expectations, are all 144 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: even throwing at another job that he's not up for. 145 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 3: But like Penn State, Penn State moved on from James 146 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 3: frank because they din't feel like they could win the 147 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 3: big game. So what's the next head coach going to 148 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: be expected to do? Every top ten game, every top 149 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 3: five game, they're expected to win because because that's what 150 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 3: you were brought in here to do. It wasn't to 151 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 3: win ten to eleven, you know, twelve games. 152 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: And mistake Brady in retrospect, now you've got to find 153 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: somebody who's better than James Franklin. 154 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say one the timing of it, yes, 155 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 4: I didn't feel like that was the right timing to 156 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 4: move on from James Franklin, especially the way the team's 157 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 4: playing now. 158 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 3: They're obviously playing much more inspired football last two games 159 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 3: they've won, and you know they were even close, you know, 160 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 3: previously to that. But it just it felt like it 161 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: was a little early to throw in the towel, even 162 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 3: though they were on the skid. And I think, if 163 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 3: you're going to move on from a guy like James Franklin, 164 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 3: you better have that next guy like loaded ready to 165 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 3: go and not be like, well, this is who our 166 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 3: top target is. 167 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 4: It's like, no, that this should be like already done. 168 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 3: And I understand there's a lot of ways that this 169 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 3: needs to work, and that's probably not the proper way 170 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: of doing it, which is one of the reasons why 171 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 3: I think the time was terrible. Like they could have 172 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 3: waited till at the end of the season. They could 173 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 3: have waited to see how things played out. I mean, 174 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 3: now it kind of looks like maybe you shouldn't have 175 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 3: fired him after if Matt wll was your target. 176 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you might he's going to win and then 177 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: keep his job. It felt like this was booster impatient 178 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: and they're like, you know, we're not gonna we got 179 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: to start winning these games. We're not winning these games, 180 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: and you know, the shelf life for him at Penn 181 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: State was expiring. 182 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 4: But isn't that the truth of what college football is 183 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 4: right now? 184 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: Yestient. 185 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 4: It's not run by well, it's not run by presidents 186 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 4: and ads. Yes, it's run by boosters. 187 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 3: I mean, when you're talking about who's ultimately funding these rosters, 188 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 3: it's the rich guy who what's school there that wants 189 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: to be a part of the process. That party played 190 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 3: fantasy and is like, you know what, I think I 191 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 3: can figure this stuff out. I watched enough you know 192 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 3: whatever recruiting website and seeing the huddle highlights, and I 193 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 3: think this kid's a really good player. So you know, 194 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna put a bunch of money in here. So 195 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 3: that's essentially what this has become, has it? 196 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 2: Not talking to Brady Quinn Big noon kickoff, It'll be 197 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 2: at the Big House at Ohio State. Michigan. They start 198 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: their coverage at nine am Eastern, go to noon Eastern. Unfucked. 199 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: I'm not going to name any names, but I was 200 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: told that there is a school that's getting really good 201 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 2: at stealing signs. Now, this isn't a Michigan Connor Stallion's 202 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: This is actually somebody watching on the other sidelines and 203 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: legally stealing signs. Have you heard about this? 204 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 3: Well, I had heard about this forever ago, because even 205 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 3: when you're a backup quarterback and you're on the sideline, 206 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: you're trying to steal signals during a game. 207 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's part of the game and ship. 208 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 3: If I know that we can shift her motion as 209 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 3: an offense to something and I can dictate or predict 210 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 3: what your coverage is, of course you're going to steal 211 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 3: every sign possible, whether it's from the sideline or from 212 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 3: the player. 213 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 4: You know, these defensive guys, yes, not the sharpest tools 214 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 4: in the shed. 215 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 3: So usually they'll be something like, hey, hey, you're like, 216 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 3: oh is that a tee for to Tampa? 217 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 4: Oh okay, great, Yeah, we've got you here. Or hey, 218 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 4: we're gonna we're gonna, we're gonna we're gonna lock locking. 219 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 3: Oh oh, so it's man to man because you're locking 220 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 3: man to man of that guy, gotcha, Like, of course 221 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 3: we're going. 222 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 4: To use that to our advantage. 223 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 3: Which, by the way, you know, the whole sign stealing 224 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 3: thing with Conner Stiens in Michigan, to me, it was 225 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 3: a Pandora's box that no one really wanted to open 226 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 3: because there was a lot of teams doing it. I 227 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 3: think since Connor Steyan's has left and he's been more 228 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 3: emboldened to talk about it. You know, he's trading this 229 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 3: information with other teams and they were willing to trade 230 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: with him. 231 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. 232 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 3: I mean, it is probably the secret to college football 233 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 3: that not many people want to address. It's one of 234 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: the reasons why I think they needed to coach the 235 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 3: quarterback communication. Uh, probably a long time ago when they 236 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 3: could have implemented it to eliminate some of the signs signaling, 237 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 3: which would would help. Right if you're you know, communicating 238 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 3: it into your player, there really should be much signing 239 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 3: going on unless you're playing up tempo where you get 240 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 3: the line and you call play and you know you're 241 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 3: use a double caateence to something of that you know nature. 242 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 2: It feels like Andrew luck is really really close to 243 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 2: being the head coach at Stanford, Like this was almost 244 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 2: a prep year for him. What do you think it's. 245 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: A big time commitment. You know, I don't know Andrew personally. 246 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 3: Obviously respect him a ton as a former player. 247 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: He's got time. What else is he doing? But but I. 248 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 3: Also think is being the general manager of Stanford's a 249 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 3: huge investment of time too. And if you're trying to 250 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 3: raise a family and get all these things going on, 251 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 3: like I don't know, do you do you want to 252 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 3: have to, you know, sacrifice essentially raising your kids to 253 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 3: raise someone else's That's what it feels like being a 254 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: college football head coach is nowadays. 255 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 4: When you include that, you're not just coaching. 256 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 3: You know, you're you're dealing with recruiting, you're dealing with 257 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: talent evaluation, you're dealing with nil and fundraising and there's 258 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: a lot of hats that college football head coaches. Where 259 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 3: does he need to invite that into his life? Does 260 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 3: he want to? And also I think there's always this 261 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 3: thought too, if you go back to your alma mater 262 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 3: and you coach there and everything's gonna work out and it's. 263 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 4: Going to be perfect, Well, why isn't he does that 264 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 4: it doesn't work out? 265 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 3: And what was if it flames out, that doesn't kind 266 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 3: of tarnish his feelings about it or maybe how how 267 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 3: he's agree. 268 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: I never hire somebody you can't fire, and we've seen 269 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: that with basketball with Patrick Ewing, Chris mallin Clyde Dregsler 270 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: going to bring somebody back, and there's going to be 271 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 2: that day that they go just not working out here. 272 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 3: And I also think there's an element of thought that like, 273 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 3: even though you need to understand the landscape that you're 274 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 3: entering into as a head coach, if they're hiring you 275 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 3: this because things weren't going well and oftentimes you got 276 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 3: to create some sort of change and maybe you need 277 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 3: the outside of the box thinking that comes from someone 278 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 3: else who's been somewhere else. Like right now, I don't 279 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 3: know why Bob Chas he's not getting more interviews or 280 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 3: discussion for a major power for head coaching job, Like 281 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 3: if we want to keep using Kurt Signetti and they 282 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 3: turn around they've been able to make in two years time, 283 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 3: and we're all trying to figure out how they do it. 284 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 4: It's like, well, the guy knows how to coach because. 285 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 3: He did it at lower levels with less resources and 286 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 3: less talent everything else, and he's been able to bring 287 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 3: some of the players to Indiana but also bring a 288 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 3: lot of what he was able to do been prior 289 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 3: years with lesser teams to have success. 290 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 4: On a higher level. 291 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 3: Why are we looking at Bob Chesney like because he's 292 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 3: just done the same exact thing to get to the 293 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 3: point at James Madison, and he's continued on what Kurt 294 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 3: Signetti did there, and yet like we're not hearing as 295 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 3: much buzz about it. 296 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 4: So I don't know. 297 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 2: I think State, maybe Penn State, maybe Penn State. 298 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 3: Penn State would be a job that I think, you know, 299 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 3: would make a lot of sense for again, someone like 300 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 3: Bob Chesney, someone like Jeff Mounkin. You know, you want 301 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 3: someone who's been able to build a program that's able 302 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 3: to overachieve with less and and those two guys, without 303 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 3: a doubt fall in that category. I know, arms not 304 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 3: having going to be year this year, to go back 305 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 3: last year and the season that they had. 306 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 2: All right only be with this. Is it better for 307 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 2: the Chiefs or the Cowboys to win tomorrow? 308 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, did the Chiefs really have much of 309 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 3: an option just because of how much Parry. 310 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 2: And Howl like the storyline? Well, storylines, I. 311 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 3: Think you'd say it's probably better for Dallas, right, I mean, 312 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 3: you get two storylines coming out of that. Everyone expects 313 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 3: that the Chiefs are going to be in the mix. 314 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 3: If they drop one, how many more can they afford 315 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: to lose. And on the flip side, Dallas kind of 316 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 3: getting back into that conversation. And also it's the Dallas Cowboys, 317 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 3: like Jerry Jones is probably gonna say something wild out there. 318 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 4: I mean, it could be about football, could be about 319 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 4: Thanksgiving dinner. 320 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 5: You know. 321 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 4: Maybe he's not a fan of Thanksgiving me. I don't know. 322 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 4: Maybe you fall into that category. Maybe you're one of 323 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 4: those like, ah, it's not really for me. 324 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 3: I eat turkey once a year unless it's on a sandwich, 325 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 3: you know, So maybe he's not a Thanksgiving yet. 326 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 4: I don't know. 327 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: Safe travels. Are you gonna you get booed when you 328 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: go to Michigan, don't you? 329 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 3: Yes, there's a there's a decent amount of booing. I 330 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 3: let them know though. You know, only started one game 331 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 3: back in two thousand and five in Michigan, and we 332 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 3: make sure we got out of there with the victory. 333 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: So I know it's been a while. But you know 334 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 3: a lot of these a lot of his young cats 335 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: don't know history, such the young kids that talk trash. 336 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 3: The older fans will say, yeah, you can't really say anything, 337 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 3: and then Urban walks out there and they all boot 338 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 3: him and they're just like, you can't say anything either, 339 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 3: And then and then and the wider walks out there, 340 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 3: he's like, yeah, we beat you when you played it twos. 341 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 4: You can only say, so there's there really shouldn't be 342 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 4: any trash talking. 343 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 3: But they're Michigan fans, so they're gonna stick their nose 344 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 3: about you, and they're gonna make sure they talk down 345 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 3: to you and act like, you know, they won the 346 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 3: national championship last season, even though it was actually Ohio State. 347 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 2: Safe travels, play nice. 348 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 4: Thank you, We'll do our best. Happy thanks to Thank you, buddy. 349 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 2: That's Brady Quinn. 350 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 351 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: Patrick Show week days at nine am Eastern six am 352 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app. 353 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 6: Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. Join me every weekday morning 354 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 6: on my podcast, Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. This isn't 355 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 6: your typical sports pod pushing the same tired narratives down 356 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 6: your throat every day. Straight Fire gives you honest opinions 357 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 6: on all the biggest sports headlines, accurate stats to help 358 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 6: you win big at the sportsbook, and all the best guests. 359 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 6: Do yourself a favor and listen to Straight Fire with 360 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 6: Jason McIntyre on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever 361 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 6: you get your podcasts. 362 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 2: More phone calls coming up. Our buddy Ross Tucker in 363 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 2: an hour from now. He's got Iowa and Nebraska tomorrow. 364 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 2: Believe that's a noon Eastern kickoff. Mike Golig, junior, co 365 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: host of Golick and Golick on FanDuel's Sports Network, former 366 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 2: Notre Dame offensive lineman and back on the program. Great 367 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: to see you, Bud him. Give me the most must 368 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 2: win game of the weekend for you? 369 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 4: Ooh, the most college or pro? 370 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 2: What do you want to either one? The most must 371 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 2: win is who I. 372 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 7: Would say the most must win this week, and to 373 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 7: me feels like the game for Ryan Day. Like Ohio 374 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 7: States accomplished a lot, this team would still be in 375 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 7: the playoff even with the loss, but considering the recent 376 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 7: run they've been on and everything else that's finally mounted 377 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 7: in his favor, this is kind. 378 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 5: Of the last remaining box to check. 379 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 7: And it's strange because this year I feel so much 380 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 7: better about Ohio State provided their best wide receivers are healthy, 381 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 7: even though last year going into this game they were 382 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 7: favored by more it was a far worse Michigan team 383 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,239 Speaker 7: than the one they're going against this year. But I 384 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 7: just think the matchup in a bunch of the key areas, 385 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 7: specifically Ohio States defense and what Matt Patricia has done 386 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 7: versus a freshman quarterback for Michigan, even at home where 387 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 7: he's been better this season, it feels like a tough one. 388 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 7: So I think if you're Ryan Day, hey, you've got 389 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 7: the fan base back on your side after the run 390 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 7: you went on last year. If you really want to 391 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 7: stamp your place now in the lore of this rivalry 392 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 7: and at the helm of this team, I think you 393 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 7: got to win this weekend. 394 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: Do you imagine if Michigan won? 395 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 7: Oh, it's I mean. And the thing is, we went 396 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 7: through this last year where people were legitimately it felt 397 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 7: like around Columbus starting to talk about Ryan Day's job 398 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 7: in a way that feels insane for all the rest 399 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 7: of us that see what Ohio State has, what he's accomplished, 400 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 7: But you understand those games mean more, and those pain 401 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 7: points in these rivalry series are always tough to come by. 402 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 7: So yeah, I don't know what it would do. He's 403 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 7: They're not going to do anything because he won the 404 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 7: championship and still could this year, but it just would 405 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 7: make things really awkward of the Thanksgiving dinner table this 406 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 7: year and next year if it happened. 407 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 2: Now you, of course, we're an offensive lineman at Notre 408 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 2: Dame and probably you know keep an eye on Notre 409 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 2: Dame far more than most of us. But I'm wondering, 410 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 2: wondering if this style of running the football to a 411 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 2: national title, can they do that? 412 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 7: I think they can, and I think doing that is 413 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,719 Speaker 7: easier because you also have a quarterback that's now been 414 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 7: able to stretch the field and the way that's different 415 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 7: Like last year, Dan looking at Notre Dame when Riley 416 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 7: Lennon was the quarterback that was a Hey, there are 417 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 7: no frills and no questions about how we're going to 418 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 7: do this. We're going to hand the ball off a 419 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 7: bunch of these running backs. Our quarterback when we get 420 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 7: into fourth and one is going to be a human 421 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 7: battering ram and he is even going to erase the edges. 422 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 7: I think back to the Georgia game last year in 423 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 7: the CFP run for Notre Dame where Riley Leonard gets 424 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 7: through the perimeter and against sec caliber NFL caliber athletes 425 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 7: like Jalen Walker, who is going to go on against 426 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 7: the Falcons. He's erasing the edge against them and finding 427 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 7: the perimeter. So that team was that there were I 428 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 7: said it was masters of the obvious last year for 429 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 7: Notre Dame, and everything they did this year, there's a 430 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 7: little bit more sleight of hand because CJ cars come 431 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 7: in and stretch the field. For this team, the explosive 432 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 7: play rate, their ability to hit downfield with players like 433 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 7: Malati Fields, the transfer wide receiver from Virginia, I think 434 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 7: have put defenses in a conundrum. And look no further 435 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 7: than what USC decided to do against Notre Dame when 436 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 7: it came to South Bend. 437 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 5: Notre Dame with two. 438 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 7: Prolific running backs runners up for the Heisman right now, 439 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 7: and USC said, we would rather not have your passing 440 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 7: attack beat us, So we're gonna put two safeties deep. 441 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 7: We're gonna play back and try and take away the 442 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 7: passing attack. And as a result, Notre Dame handed off 443 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 7: the ball over and over again and broke their will 444 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 7: in that game. Because USC had to do the math 445 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 7: problem ended up guessing wrong. And that's the ability Notre 446 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 7: Dame has. This year that makes it different, But the 447 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 7: engine that still makes it all go is Jeremiah Love 448 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 7: and I absolutely think he's a great enough player for 449 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 7: them to ride to a title. 450 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 2: If Lane Kiffen would answer the question, what question would 451 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 2: you ask, Hey, what. 452 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 5: Are we doing here? Bud? 453 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 7: Like I think outside of you, what Dan? The obvious 454 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 7: of what are we doing? Is why now? 455 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 8: Like? 456 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 7: Why would you force the issue on this now? And 457 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 7: is he at the helm of that? Because we've seen 458 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 7: plenty of instances of coaches that we knew were kind 459 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 7: of room for these certain things play out. What they've 460 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 7: got going on, and the way that this has all 461 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 7: played out really publicly with Old Miss, to me, I 462 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 7: always feel worse for the players, like that, What a 463 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 7: disservice to the players on this team right now, everything 464 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 7: that's happened with this situation, whether it's the Old Miss 465 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,239 Speaker 7: Brass that forced the ultimatum, whether it was just too 466 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 7: much to bear internally, you got a team that's in 467 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 7: the top ten of college football that we haven't talked 468 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 7: about on the field and god knows how long because 469 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 7: we're all wondering if their coach is even going to 470 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 7: be with them after the rivalry game. 471 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 5: This weekend. 472 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 7: So I just wonder, especially with the opportunity ahead of 473 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 7: them in a college football world that's infinitely more accessible 474 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 7: in terms of who can win the title. 475 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 4: You had one of. 476 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 7: Those teams, and now it seems like everyone involved might 477 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 7: be willing to walk away from the table and let 478 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 7: that team go into the playoff with an interim head 479 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 7: coach or a head coach that knows he's going to 480 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 7: be gone to greener past years. The whole situation, it 481 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 7: just is bizarre, and I feel bad for the players 482 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 7: who will put so much into the season and have 483 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 7: had that certainly upended by this, but could potentially be 484 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 7: even more upended after this weekend. 485 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wonder if it comes out if he 486 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 2: tells the team prior to that he's leaving, I would 487 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 2: say put it on the players to vote if they 488 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 2: want Lane Kiffin to be their coach after this for 489 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 2: the playoffs, even though you know the committee made ding 490 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: them if Lane Kiffin is not their head coach. 491 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 7: And yeah, yeah, sorry sorry about that, Dan, but no, 492 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 7: I saw that point made. 493 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 4: And I don't know. 494 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 7: We've seen the committee ding teams for interesting things, but 495 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 7: I do think that's the right approach it should be 496 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 7: on the players if it comes down to that decision, 497 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 7: and if they're comfortable enough with that and say, hey, 498 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 7: you still give us the best chance to win this season, 499 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 7: especially considering a bunch of those players could follow him 500 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 7: if he goes. This is the Dan Agent college football 501 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 7: we live in, where you could pluck the core of 502 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 7: your roster and help reset the foundation elsewhere there might 503 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 7: be a little bit less Oh, you're leaving us here 504 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,719 Speaker 7: than there used to be, and so maybe with some 505 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 7: of that mercenary mindset, these guys could be more comfortable 506 00:22:58,359 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 7: with that the most. 507 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 2: We're talking to Mike Gulli, junior co host of Golick 508 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 2: and Golick on FanDuel's Sports Network. Yeah, just trying to 509 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 2: figure this out of these How did we get to 510 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 2: the point where you're somebody's talking to somebody about your 511 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 2: next job during a season. I know what happens, but 512 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 2: why did it have to happen this way? Why couldn't 513 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: this wait until the end of the season or at 514 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 2: least when you get into you know, the playoff, Like, 515 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 2: I don't know, it just it feels like coaches don't 516 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 2: want distractions, but the coaches created the distraction and that's 517 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: what you know. That has to be a better way 518 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 2: to do this. Mike there does I think all of 519 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 2: it to me just boils down to like the pressure now, 520 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, like some of the way that 521 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 2: this has been framed around Lane Kiffin, like he's got 522 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: a role in this too. This is not just something 523 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 2: that's happening to him. So I don't want to use 524 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 2: this as like a way to make him a victim 525 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 2: of circumstance that he is, at least in part helped create. 526 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 2: But I do think this all I'm from the pressure 527 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 2: to win now in college that leads to the massive 528 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: buyout that we've seen because all these coaches understand, Hey, 529 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 2: especially in this day and age, when you can come 530 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,479 Speaker 2: in an overhaul roster in one year with the portal, 531 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,479 Speaker 2: I got to come in and show your results now, 532 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 2: because if not in two or three years at these places, 533 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 2: you wind up like Brian Kelly, having to fight for 534 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 2: your buyout with the school that's trying to go back 535 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 2: and fire you for cause for ways that don't make sense. 536 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 7: And so what does that mean? I have to get 537 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 7: in because the transfer portal window did used to open 538 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 7: during the playoffs in December and now opens in January. 539 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 5: So we've got to get. 540 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 7: Ahead start on that class. I've got to get a 541 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 7: head start on recruiting the next group of guys they're 542 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 7: going to be in high school, and just get the 543 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 7: things going here at a time where we've created more 544 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 7: postseason than ever before, so it's going to affect more 545 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 7: games when you pull out and do that. And so 546 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 7: I think all of that that urgency of hey, if 547 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 7: I'm going to take this next big opportunity forever, it's 548 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 7: got to start tonight, Like we've got to get going 549 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 7: on this now, because if we don't, we're already behind 550 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 7: this ever churning machine. And if you fall behind too far, 551 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 7: now all of a sudden you're the guy with the 552 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 7: massive buyout getting ready to go on college game. 553 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 2: Help me understand this. I know we want to protect 554 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,959 Speaker 2: the NFL players, We've changed the kickoff rule. Do we 555 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 2: not want to protect the college players? Why don't we 556 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 2: have the same kickoff formation in college as we do 557 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 2: in the NFL. 558 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 5: Dan, It's a. 559 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 7: Great question, and I have no idea college in so 560 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 7: many ways is resistant to doing things anywhere close to 561 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 7: the NFL level. In like weird little bits of minute details, 562 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 7: and I'd agree. Now, maybe the people at large in college, 563 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 7: although it's not like you've got an NFLPA in college 564 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,239 Speaker 7: that can commission studies and the NFL Central body, Like, 565 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 7: no one runs this in college football, and so no one. 566 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 7: Maybe the conference heads could do it within the big 567 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 7: tag of the SEC or the ACC, but like there's 568 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,719 Speaker 7: no one here that's going to amass the data that 569 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,239 Speaker 7: cares enough about it to then try and get it 570 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 7: implemented across the whole sport, Like this is part of 571 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 7: the difficulty in college football of having no one in 572 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 7: charge of anything that's going on. Because you're right, if 573 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 7: that at the highest level of football is something they 574 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 7: felt was necessary in one of the most violent plays 575 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 7: in the sport, then yeah, it would to me make 576 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 7: an overwhelming amount of sense for player safety reasons, for continuity, 577 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 7: reasons for these guys going to the next level. Like 578 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,479 Speaker 7: your job is to win games in college, but I 579 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 7: do think if you can do it in such a 580 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 7: way that helps prepare guys for the biggest job interview 581 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 7: of their life, hey, that's probably not a bad deal 582 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 7: either overall structurally, So your guest as good as mine. 583 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 2: At your peak could you take down a turkey dinner? 584 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, absolutely. At my peak, I was a bottomless pit. 585 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 7: I was a bunch of raccoons in a trench code, 586 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 7: not just one. So yeah, no, I was about that life. 587 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 2: But then you got your dad and your brother Jake 588 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 2: is even bigger than every you guys. 589 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a. 590 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 7: Competition for resources at the table every year in the 591 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 7: goal of family Thanksgiving, Like. 592 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 4: There was no room for manners or the korum. 593 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 7: You just had to get in there and get what 594 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 7: you thought was yours established dominance at the table, or 595 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 7: else you were going to be sitting there with a 596 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 7: plate that was lacking around everybody else who was enjoying themselves. 597 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 7: So I like to think that was where the competitive 598 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,239 Speaker 7: fire was born, not on the athletic field, but just 599 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 7: having to scrap it out for food at home. 600 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving, Good to talk to you, Thank you, Mike, 601 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 2: Happy thanksgetting to appreciate it. Mike Golick, junior co host 602 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 2: of Golick and Golick on FanDuel Sports Network. 603 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 604 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsportsradio dot 605 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. 606 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 2: Ross Tucker CBS Sports Westwood One college football analyst, and 607 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 2: you can follow him on social media at Ross Tucker NFL. 608 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 2: He was in the booth for the Browns and the 609 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 2: Raiders last weekend, and he'll be on the call for 610 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 2: Iowa and Nebraska kicking off tomorrow at noon Eastern non CBS. 611 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 2: Let's get the important question out of the way. Have 612 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 2: you ever eaten a whole turkey? 613 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 5: No? 614 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 8: I don't think so, but I think I probably could 615 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 8: if I really wanted to, I definitely could have. When 616 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 8: I was high school, college of the NFL. I mean, 617 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 8: I look back on it now and my wife's still 618 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 8: marvels Dan. When we first were in Dallas and Chipotle, 619 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 8: that's when Chipotle started. I used to eat two burritos, 620 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 8: no problem. 621 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 5: High school and college. 622 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 8: I used to go to Subway and get two foot 623 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 8: long bmt's biggest medias tastiest. I would get double meat 624 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 8: ad bacon and eat two foot longs like I wasn't 625 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 8: eating machine for a good ten year period of my life. 626 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 2: All Right, that's all I wanted to talk to you about. 627 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 2: Happy thanksgetting there. Where do you want to start? What's 628 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 2: your biggest question mark that will be answered this weekend 629 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 2: in the NFL. 630 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 8: Ooh, that is a really really good one, man. I 631 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 8: feel like the NFL did a terrific job with these 632 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 8: standalone games the next couple of days. You know, I 633 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 8: mean Packers, Lions. I'm not sure I look at them 634 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 8: either one of them right now, Dan as super Bowl contenders. 635 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 5: You know, when I go on all the other. 636 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 8: Shows all you know, wherever I cheat on you sometimes 637 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 8: I do go on other shows from time to time they'll. 638 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 5: Say, who are the legit super Bowl contenders? 639 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 8: And I guess right now, I kind of feel like 640 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 8: I have a tough time picturing it being anybody other 641 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 8: than the Rams or the Eagles in the NFC. And 642 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 8: I say that because the Lions and Packers just haven't 643 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 8: shown enough consistency for me to picture them winning three 644 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 8: playoff games. And even the Seahawks, so I think, are 645 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 8: really good. I don't think they're going to win that division. 646 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 8: So does that mean I think Sam Darnold's gonna win 647 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 8: three road playoff games? I don't, so I think right 648 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 8: now it's the Eagles or the Rams. With the Rams 649 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 8: pretty clearly I think being the best team in football 650 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 8: so that Lions Packers matchup is huge for both those teams. 651 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 8: You know, I'm curious to see if the Cowboys can 652 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 8: keep this momentum going after the win against the Eagles, 653 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 8: whereas the Chiefs finally won a one score game and 654 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 8: they look like a good team in that game, and 655 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 8: then even you know, tomorrow night Joe Burrow out there 656 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 8: and then I can't believe that, I mean, out of 657 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 8: all the games, for the Black Friday game to. 658 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 5: Be eight and three Bears eight and three Eagles. 659 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 8: I don't know many people were expecting that when that 660 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 8: first came out. So kudos tip of the cap to 661 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 8: the NFL schedule makers for the standalone game the next 662 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 8: couple of. 663 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 2: Days better for the NFL if the Cowboys win or 664 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: the Chiefs win. 665 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 8: Ooh, I think if the Cowboys win, because the Cowboys still. 666 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 5: Have some more standalone games. 667 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 8: If they lose, they're pretty much you know, if they lose, 668 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 8: they're out of it. 669 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 5: If they win, then the. 670 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 8: Following Thursday, they play the Lions on Thursday Night Football 671 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 8: be calling that game for west Wood One. Then the 672 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 8: Cowboys all of a sudden have a real chance and 673 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:20,479 Speaker 8: get interesting. Plus, even if the Chiefs lose. I almost 674 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 8: think it makes them more compelling for the rest of 675 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 8: the year as they scratch and claw to try to 676 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 8: make the playoffs, to try to get a chance to 677 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 8: get into the tournament. 678 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 5: So I think it's better for the NFL. 679 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 2: If the Cowboys win, Joe Burrow is going to play 680 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 2: against the Ravens like they may not make the playoffs. 681 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 2: I'm talking about the Bengals. Obviously it's a long shot, 682 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 2: but they're going to decide who wins the AFC North 683 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 2: because you got the Ravens twice. Now. Chris collins Worth 684 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 2: yesterday said he would not bring back Joe Burrow. 685 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 8: What do you think. I don't think I would either. 686 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 8: I don't think I would either. You know, unfortunately, Joe 687 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 8: is injury prone. I think last year might have been 688 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 8: the only year where he didn't get injured. It's clearly 689 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 8: a lost season. Even in this game at Baltimore, you 690 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 8: don't have Trey Hendrickson, you don't have t Higgins, and 691 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 8: I'm sure Burrow will play well enough in these games 692 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 8: that they'll win a couple of them. And you know, 693 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 8: I think the fans will appreciate that he's out there playing. 694 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 8: He wants to play. But man, he'd better be one 695 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 8: hundred percent. Dan, He'd better not be even a little 696 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 8: bit compromised, cause I'm gonna be watching that. We all 697 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 8: will Thursday night. You know what they're gonna do. They're 698 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 8: gonna bring pressure on them, make him move around. This 699 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 8: is the NFL, Okay, If they're not sure whether or 700 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 8: not you're one hundred percent, they're going. 701 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 5: To test it. Right. 702 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 8: Like if I played against a guy and he had 703 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 8: a bad arm or had his hand in the cast, 704 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 8: I attacked that arm, you know, like I I ran 705 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 8: that way. 706 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 5: I mean, like, if there's a scab in the NFL, 707 00:32:58,680 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 5: you pick it. 708 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 8: So Joe Burrow better not have a scab because they'll 709 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 8: attack it if he does. 710 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 2: I'm talking to Ross Tucker the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. 711 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 2: You can follow him on social media at Ross Tucker NFL. 712 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 2: He'll be on the call for Iowa and Nebraska Friday 713 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 2: at noon Eastern on CBS. Last weekend, you got to 714 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 2: call shud Or Sanders first NFL start. Did he do 715 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 2: enough to warrant starting against the Niners this weekend? 716 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 5: No question? I was impressed, Dan. 717 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 8: I thought overall it was a very favorable evaluation. He 718 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 8: didn't light the world on fire. They didn't need him to. 719 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 8: He did have a tremendous throw on the run to 720 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 8: Isaiah Bond. I just can't picture Dylan Gabriel making that play. 721 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 8: But you know what it was, Dan, Maybe this is 722 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 8: me as the former offensive lineman. 723 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 5: It was the eye test. You know. 724 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 8: He wasn't drifting out of the back of the pocket. 725 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 8: He was stepping up as they encouraged him to do. 726 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 8: He was getting rid of the ball pretty quickly. He 727 00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 8: was poised. 728 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 5: He was now. 729 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 8: I don't know why the Raiders didn't blitz him more 730 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 8: than they did, but he only took one sack. He 731 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 8: got fooled on an interception. That'll happen. I think he 732 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 8: thought the guy was buzzing to the flat. They kind 733 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 8: of tricked him on that one. But I would say 734 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 8: the biggest thing for me was from that second half 735 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 8: against the Ravens to this game against the Raiders. 736 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 5: There was clear strides. 737 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 8: I mean, he made significant improvement in getting rid of 738 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 8: the ball and not taking sacks and not drifting back 739 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 8: in the pocket. I, like everybody else, especially Browns fans, 740 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 8: I want to see more. 741 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 5: I want to see how much he improves from start 742 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 5: one to start two. 743 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 2: But you know this feeling as well as anybody. When 744 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 2: you go to the line of scrimmage you're an offensive lineman. 745 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 2: The difference between I have no idea too. You know, 746 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 2: this guy's got a little bit of confidence there, or 747 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 2: he can throw the ball downfield. It just felt like 748 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 2: he gave his team a lift because they knew that 749 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 2: he Dylan Gabriel's not making those twenty yard throws and 750 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 2: Shador is not afraid. He's got a better arm, And 751 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 2: it just feels like they're a little more threatening now. 752 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 2: I know when they got down to the goal line, 753 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 2: they got into the red zone, they weren't you know, 754 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 2: it wasn't Shador. They were a running football team, which 755 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 2: is what it feels like Kevin Stefanski still wants to be. 756 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 8: Yeah, they went to the wildcat, which, by the way, 757 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 8: I feel like, and I said this during the broadcast, 758 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 8: that's so demoralizing for the Raiders. 759 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 5: You know, when the other team says. 760 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 8: We're gonna tell you right now, there's no chance we're 761 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 8: throwing the ball, zero chance, and they still run it 762 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 8: right down your throat. That's a little embarrassing if you 763 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 8: ask me. Uh, but you're right about shadoor Driver. I'll 764 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 8: say this, that was the best the offensive line's played 765 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 8: all year, I thought. And it's almost like talking with 766 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 8: Joel Buttonio the day before the game. 767 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 5: They knew that they needed to, you know. 768 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 8: Rise their level of play to help Shador to give 769 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 8: them a chance. But did you see Miles Garrett's face 770 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 8: when Shador threw that bomb to bond As By the way, 771 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 8: he was getting smashed by Max Crosby. You know, he 772 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 8: did enough, and it's almost like his reputation precedes him. 773 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 8: They know he had a lot of flashy plays in 774 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 8: college that he did Engender and Foster. I think some 775 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 8: belief amongst the players, which really goes a long way. 776 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 8: Now that can go out of the window quick too. 777 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 8: But I think you know, if you think your quarterback 778 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 8: gives you a legit chance, and you feel good about 779 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 8: your quarterback, it makes a big difference. 780 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 5: I've been on both sides of that. 781 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 2: If I told you in August Matthew Stafford would win 782 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 2: the NFL MVP, you would have said, what. 783 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 5: You're an idiot? I mean, Dan, this is how dumb 784 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 5: I am. 785 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,720 Speaker 8: On the even Money Betting podcast, all we kept saying 786 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 8: is take the under on Stafford passing yards because remember 787 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 8: during training camp he didn't do anything. He had a 788 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 8: herni a disk in his back. He got an epic. 789 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 8: He is having I don't have the stats. Maybe somebody 790 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 8: can check me stutt of the day, but he's having 791 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 8: the greatest season by a thirty seven year old with 792 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 8: a herniat disk. 793 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 5: Dura will never practice one time during training camp and 794 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 5: NFL history, I mean, he's clearly the MVP. 795 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 8: After not doing anything, He's now setting the template for 796 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 8: all older quarterbacks. I'm gonna do nothing during training camp, 797 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 8: not practice one time. I'll show up the first week 798 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 8: of the season and just be awesome. 799 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 2: Safe travels to Nebraska. I hope it's a great Thanksgiving 800 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 2: out there for you. Has that a direct flight? 801 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 5: It is not a direct flight. Nope. 802 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 8: I'll be pitstop, quick, pitstop in Chicago. 803 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 5: But I love you know, I love college football. 804 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,240 Speaker 8: I love rivalries, and I love how much this game 805 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 8: means the people of Iowa and Nebraska. That's what you want, 806 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 8: right as a broadcaster. You want to be calling big 807 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 8: games that mean a lot to the people involved. 808 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 2: That'll be Friday at noon Eastern on CBS. Thank you, Ross, 809 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 2: Thank you Dan, that's the great great Ross Tucker there