1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Conversations on life, style, beauty, and relationships. It's the velvets 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: Edge Podcast with Kelly Henderson. 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: Well, I'm just pressing record now. Marv just is dropping 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: knowledge on me and I was like, wait, wait, wait, 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: wait wait, save it for the podcast. And now you 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 2: don't remember what you just said, do you? 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean basically, Sagittarius is this. This is 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 3: communication with people with groups with identification of the kind 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 3: of people that you connect with like minded people, people 10 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 3: that disagree, people that do agree. But it's a social 11 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: camaraderie kind of energy. And sag is high mindedness. There's 12 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 3: nobody more philosophical than a Sagittarius. It's freedom oriented, it's 13 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 3: thinking for myself oriented. So you know, we've been we've 14 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 3: been gripped by this stupid campaign and all this political 15 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 3: crap that's been going on for the last year, and 16 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 3: we haven't had We've had to move through all of 17 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 3: this on an individual basis, and now it's time for 18 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 3: us to collectively start to come together and start to 19 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 3: really get into a discussion about all of this nonsense. 20 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 3: What's nonsense and what is it nonsense, and then how 21 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: we want to approach this whole The ramifications of this 22 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 3: election and this whole year. I mean, you have to realize, Kelly, 23 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 3: you know, the tremendous point in my life was the 24 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 3: assassination of John Kennedy. Everybody knew where they were when 25 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: that occurred. At my age, you knew where you were 26 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 3: at that moment in time when you heard, well, this 27 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 3: is another inflection point. There is nothing been more significant 28 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: than what we are about to choose in this election 29 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: and go through this whole process. And I think that 30 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 3: as you know, it's like I've heard you talk about 31 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 3: I don't want to get political and stuff like that, 32 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 3: but this is the breakout point to where we're all 33 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 3: going to have to get political. I mean, do you 34 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: want democracy or do you want it? You wanted autocracy 35 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 3: in a dictatorship, that's your vote. Now you've we've got 36 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 3: to stand up and voice our belief what we think, 37 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 3: and we've got to use some of our own intuition 38 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 3: and higher knowledge to inquire from spirit. And you know, 39 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 3: and of course you know when I talked about the 40 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 3: full mood, I had to write a little note here 41 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 3: when I wrote wote mature versus in mature and judgment, Well, 42 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: guess what that is that's a that's a that's a 43 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 3: pure cancer trait feelings. That's how you know what is 44 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 3: a mature and in mature judgment. That's how you know 45 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 3: what what our society and culture has been versus what 46 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 3: is being suggested that we become. I mean, does that 47 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 3: feel right or it don't feel right? I mean some 48 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 3: people it feels right, obviously on the maga side, and 49 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 3: on the other side, no, it don't feel right. And 50 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: I think that as you we go through this volume 51 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 3: of outline that I put together, because when I looked 52 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: at the chart, I said, well, hell, there ain't that 53 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 3: much going on. This should be kind of an easy time. 54 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: Well this is crazy. Let me just pause you there, Marv, 55 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: because what I have felt the last month, I mean, 56 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: there were all of these eclipses in taurists and then 57 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: all of these just shifts that have been happening, and 58 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: so much in my life specifically has changed during one 59 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: of those things that they've been very impactful energies for 60 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 2: my life specifically. I don't know if everyone else is 61 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 2: feeling that, but the people that I've talked to you 62 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: have and so I texted you and I was like, 63 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 2: oh god, we got so much to talk about because 64 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 2: we're trying to look at basically this forecasting moving into 65 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, and you were like, you were like, really, 66 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 2: I don't really see it, And I'm like what, because 67 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: I know we're about to go into a retrograde and 68 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: there's all this stuff. But I do think that today 69 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 2: you were going to talk through just the significant changes 70 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 2: in the chart and what is coming, and then maybe 71 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: I like the way that you give you know, give 72 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: some insight into it's not all dooms day. Like a 73 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 2: lot of times I think these astrologers, like pop astrologers 74 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: that I see it feels very like dun't dun't dumb 75 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: mercury retrograde's coming. So I do like to know like 76 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 2: the mentalities that you present, which are what are the 77 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: lessons here? And like why are we being asked to 78 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: slow down and reassess and just kind of some shifts 79 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 2: in our mentalities I think, change everything energetically because it's 80 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 2: all here to help us, right, It's all here to 81 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: help us grow. So that's what we're going to forecasting. 82 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 3: It's just interesting, right, And when you talk to spirit, 83 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 3: when you when you when you move into your higher intelligence, 84 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 3: what they tell you is to quit living in them 85 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 3: drastic energy shifts. Quit making it so dynamic that you're 86 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 3: being swayed by the activities and all of the drama 87 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 3: and stuff that's going on. Now about just trusting in 88 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 3: yourself with self confidence and self esteem. Then no matter 89 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: what occurs, no matter what energy is, you're going to 90 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 3: be Okay. 91 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I. 92 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 3: Think the tests that's the big deal. And when I 93 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 3: looked at this chart for Sagittarius, you know, Sagittarius is 94 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 3: very masculine. Okay, Well I looked at the chart and 95 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 3: it's all about feminine. 96 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: I know that. Yeah, Okay, let's know that. 97 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: But you see, the thing about it is is because 98 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 3: we all have this challenge to operate from a masculine, 99 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 3: feminine process, right. We talked about that, And of course 100 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 3: when you get so masculine as a Sagittarius, I mean 101 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,559 Speaker 3: that's one of the most masculine signs there is, because 102 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, this is the party animal, the 103 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 3: gregarious personality, the last one to leave a party swinging 104 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 3: from a chandelier. I mean, these are you know, freedom 105 00:06:54,880 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 3: oriented people. Don't I mean their whole byline is don't 106 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 3: don't fence me in right. And I mean, you know, 107 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 3: when we in mythology, they even rebel against God, So 108 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, this is a very rebellious sign. 109 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: And of course, so what we're what we're really challenging, 110 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 3: and we're going to talk about it later into this outline. 111 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 3: We're really challenging the mass. The feminine has got to 112 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 3: really challenge the masculine so that we stay an equal partner. 113 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 3: You see, we can't we can't let this get away 114 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 3: from us because we're you know, because of this over 115 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 3: masculinity that's going on and all of this demagoguerey and 116 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 3: all of the challenges that's going on in the in 117 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 3: the bigger picture of macrocosm. And so you know, that's 118 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: kind of what I wanted to make sure that we 119 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 3: that we understood and got across. I mean, you know, 120 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: you still stay in feelings, and that's feminine. You stay 121 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 3: in You stay in feelings, you stay in visualization, you 122 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 3: stay in imagery, you stay you see, because the masculine 123 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 3: has to be guided by the feminine. It's not the 124 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 3: other way around. And if our feminine is too weak 125 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 3: to stand up, and we've got the feminine voice right 126 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 3: now is stronger than we've ever known it in our lifetime. 127 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 3: So we have really really got to understand the healing 128 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 3: necessity of the feminine so that we maintain balance as 129 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 3: we move forward in going through this election year and 130 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 3: the challenges that it's going to present. I mean, you know, 131 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 3: it's got a we got a Jupiter Venus opposition. So 132 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 3: there's a lot of restless, there's a lot of frustrations 133 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:10,599 Speaker 3: with you know, our feelings are magnified. That's perfect. Feelings 134 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: need to be magnified. 135 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 2: See this is a spin I was talking about because 136 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 2: when everyone else talks about your feelings are going to 137 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: be so big, it's like very scary. But usually, like 138 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: the way I'm starting to even hear when other people 139 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 2: are other astrologers are talking about this stuff is it's 140 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 2: going to be magnified. So it shines the light on 141 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 2: the thing that we need. We need it to be magnified, 142 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 2: like because otherwise we would just be going along in 143 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: life and coasting. And while that does sound very appealing 144 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 2: to me, often it doesn't actually produce change or growth 145 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 2: or evolution or any of those things. So we need 146 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: these things to be magnified and shown to us and 147 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: to feel them really bigly, so that we bigly. Is 148 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 2: that a word? Really big? 149 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 3: It is now? 150 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: It is now you heard it here first. I'm about 151 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: with such podcast, but feel them just in this huge way, 152 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: so that we do make the changes. I would never 153 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 2: make a change in my life if it didn't impact 154 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: me in some significant way, big time, Like, I just 155 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: wouldn't make changes. I would just stay the same. 156 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 3: Well, and that's the whole thing. I mean, from childhood 157 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 3: all the way up through adulthood, we're learning through the 158 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 3: negative energies that occur because that brings in the conflict 159 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 3: and the challenge to bring balance to those energies. So 160 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: it's never about a conflict and it's going to be 161 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 3: doomsday with the energies that are going on. And so 162 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 3: you know, there'd be difficult times in relationships because we're 163 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 3: wanting more from a relationship than what we're getting. We're 164 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 3: trying too hard to get so much. I mean, you know, 165 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 3: we're asking for too much sometimes and that's going to 166 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 3: be a parent over the month. And you know another 167 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 3: thing that I recognized when I ran the chart for 168 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 3: the winter solstice, the mercury retrograde chart. They got a 169 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 3: lot of the same aspects we're going to have mercury 170 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 3: retrograde field for the whole year of twenty four. That's right. 171 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 2: Oh boy, well I wasn't for that one. That does 172 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: still a little thought. 173 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 3: Well, we've had it before and you've probably never recognized it. 174 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 3: But I mean, there's just things that you're constantly going 175 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 3: to be reevaluating, and I think that that's uh, that's 176 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 3: just the way you have to look at a mercury retrograde. 177 00:11:52,800 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 3: What am I reevaluating? Okay, So the other aspect is 178 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 3: is there's a neptune involved with the sun and the moon, 179 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 3: and that's a big deal because Neptune is the it's 180 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 3: the all and all it's about. It's about all humanity, 181 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: it's about all, it's about people, it's about everybody. 182 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 2: You've talked about that a lot, the shift of the 183 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 2: new way being to stop thinking about self and to 184 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 2: think about the group. 185 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 3: That's right. So why wouldn't we enter into this a 186 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 3: month beforehand before it really comes in. We had just 187 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 3: a little taste of it back here a few months 188 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 3: back when Pluto went into Aquarius, But now is really 189 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 3: going to come in, and then right around the election 190 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 3: it's going to go back and We're going to talk 191 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 3: about that quite significantly in part two that when we 192 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 3: start looking and defining the year. But we've we've got 193 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 3: to get into a Neptune's son is about the challenge 194 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 3: to know your true self and realities. Are you being 195 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 3: a little overconfident? Are you being a little too conceited, 196 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 3: a little delusional? That's what Neptune is. It has to 197 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 3: see everything. It's universal. This is this is the universe 198 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 3: coming down and forcing universal principles on our third dimension realities. 199 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 3: And it's dissolving. And so we're dealing with some dissolving issues. 200 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 3: We're dealing with, uh or how are we interacting with people? 201 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 3: It's forcing us to look at are we too dreamy? 202 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 3: I mean, do we have pipe dreams versus you know what? 203 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 3: What's real? What I mean? What? What can I do? 204 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 3: What can I accomplish? Are we Are we compensating for 205 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 3: being a jerk by rationalizing, well, I. 206 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: Love them, well, what do you mean? 207 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 3: Well? In other words, and the relationship, well I love 208 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 3: you just does just don't pay attention to me when 209 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 3: I'm just a jerk. So, in other words, we're trying 210 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 3: to make a trade off for our actions and our 211 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 3: and and the things we do in life. But I mean, 212 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 3: you know, and so one of the things that I 213 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 3: think is more important than all those negatives is we've 214 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 3: got a saturn quintile. Which what that means is you 215 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 3: got Saturn is reality and responsibility, and a quintile is talent. 216 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 3: We're all going to have an ability to be rewarded 217 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 3: for hard work and preparation. That's a good thing. And 218 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 3: so it's a it's going to be it's it's a 219 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 3: little more conservative. It's resistance against rapid change and prefers 220 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 3: to maintain traditional values. Well that surely isn't being presented 221 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 3: to us right now. 222 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: No, it's not. 223 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 3: Okay, But then, but yet we're going to start feeling 224 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: this this Wait a minute, you're just trying to overthrow 225 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 3: everything that has been normal for all most of us 226 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 3: throughout our lives. Take it we want to take you know, saturness. 227 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 3: Take a cautious approach to new initiatives and reforms. Well 228 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 3: that's not taken a cautionist. You know, I'm going to 229 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 3: eliminate this. I'm going to tear down this, this system 230 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 3: and all of that, all the demagogery, less inclined towards 231 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 3: radical and revolutionary movements. So this is a strong factor 232 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 3: into this month that's going to be coming in to 233 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 3: this Sagittarius mind and thinkingness, high mindedness, education. You see 234 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 3: Sagittarius rules university level of education. So we're really looking 235 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 3: for the education and the truth of things, and of 236 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 3: course we're going to be resistance to radicalism and less 237 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 3: inclined towards radical evolution revolutionary movements. Do you think that 238 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 3: what's coming into our mind? Well? 239 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: Do you think that's because we've been fighting from such 240 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: extreme places for a minute? Like, it's That's the one 241 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: thing I keep saying, is like I don't think it 242 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: has to be one way or the other. It's like, 243 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: we're looking so black and white and so extreme at 244 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 2: so many issues publicly. I think that's what gets talked 245 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: about in the media a lot, and if you really 246 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: talk to most of the general population, most things are 247 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 2: a little more in the middle. So is that what 248 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 2: we're trying to get back to? You think do you 249 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,239 Speaker 2: think that people are really feeling that a little bit? 250 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 3: Let's think about that for a second. What did we 251 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 3: start out with. We started out with the feminine versus 252 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 3: the masculine. Okay, we started out with the feminine is 253 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 3: trying to find balance, and so it's being emphasized so 254 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: we can control the masculine. 255 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 256 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 3: See, the masculine is one that's going out there and 257 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 3: going to surgically tear things apart. Yeah, well we don't 258 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 3: want that. We want it toward apart in a right 259 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 3: and proper way. So, I mean, you know, we're going 260 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 3: to be less inclined to accept radical revolutionary changes as 261 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 3: that's that mentality starts coming in to the uh, to 262 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 3: the populace, and so we're going to be addressing social 263 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 3: issues in any qualities. We've been talking about that for months. Yeah, 264 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 3: but now it's going to start coming into our minds 265 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 3: and saying, wait a minute, this is really this is 266 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 3: really getting out of balance. I mean you know this 267 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 3: is also uh, the same aspect is on the move. Well, 268 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 3: that's that's emotions. This is the feminine for sure. This 269 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 3: is the memories. So we're going there's going to be 270 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 3: a capacity to handle emotional challenges and crisis with patience 271 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: and long term perspective. You see, that's you see, So 272 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 3: you've got a balancing out energy going on. Now, Yes, 273 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 3: you've got this, you got this strong masculine energy coming in, 274 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 3: but you've got to balance in a very positive, very 275 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 3: positive feminine energy that's going to take a look at 276 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 3: this and say, wait a minute, this just isn't you know, 277 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 3: this isn't just this is not balanced, This isn't harmony. 278 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 3: So when you look at when you're looking at the moon, 279 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 3: I mean, the moon is all about ancestral customs and 280 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 3: preserving the cultural heritage that we've grown up with. It's 281 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 3: an emphasis on maintaining established institutions and traditions. Institutions and 282 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 3: traditions is a cancer concept. 283 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 2: I was just about to say, I feel like you're 284 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: describing how I feel all the time as a cancer. 285 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: Like those things. 286 00:19:52,920 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 3: Right, So there's a resistance to rapid social change and 287 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 3: the well being of generations after our after what we 288 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 3: do now, it's after you know, after we get done 289 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 3: with this twenty four there's going to be changes on 290 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 3: either side. It doesn't make any difference. So you know, 291 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 3: we've got to get that's got to come into consciousness. 292 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 3: And we're going to talk about that in a minute 293 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 3: when we talk about this mercury retrograde. And so we're 294 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 3: really looking at society's values and principles, and we're going 295 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 3: to have a discussion about it, because Sagittarius is communication. 296 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 3: You ever known as Sagittarius. It didn't shut up. 297 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,239 Speaker 2: I mean you're saying that did shut up. 298 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 3: I mean no, they yeah, well that did shut up. Yeah, 299 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 3: I mean they are always talking. They always have an opinion. 300 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 3: He is the most judgmental sign in the zodiac. So 301 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you have to understand that what 302 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 3: masculine principle you're dealing with. And so you know, we 303 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 3: it's like, you know, we have to have a collective discussion. 304 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 3: This is a too important time for us to not 305 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 3: have a collective discussion. I'm not going to hold back 306 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 3: on my beliefs and my feelings and my whole life's 307 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 3: experience of living in this country, in this culture, and 308 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 3: so that's very important. So you know, there's a big 309 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 3: there's a big emphasis on social responsibility and addressing social issues. Well, 310 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 3: we can address social issues right now until our face 311 00:21:59,160 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 3: fell off. 312 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: Well that's the tough part, right because I wasn't going 313 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 2: to say everything you're talking about. I just don't see 314 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 2: a space like you say, we're going to talk about 315 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 2: it and discuss it, but it still doesn't resolve the 316 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 2: issue of where people see things through such different lenses. 317 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 2: Right now, it feels like and it's. 318 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but when we look even if you see 319 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 3: things in different lenses, this energy is going to impact 320 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 3: them as well. Okay, it's not that you see when 321 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 3: spirit comes in. These are AHA moments. So don't think 322 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 3: you're not going to change the mind. I mean, look, 323 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 3: how many lawyers now are pleading guilty to something that 324 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:57,479 Speaker 3: they've staunchly held on to for three years. That's an 325 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 3: AHA moment. Hey, get my butt straight or I'm going 326 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 3: to jail. Yeah, okay, same thing. So I don't care 327 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 3: how many people, uh believe what they believe. I mean, 328 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 3: the issue is going to come down to a division 329 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 3: of two. You're going to you're going to go for 330 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 3: this side or you're going to go for that side. 331 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 3: Let's see who wins. But that doesn't mean that I 332 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 3: can't have a discussion with people that are open, open 333 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 3: minded and are looking at what this energy is going 334 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 3: to bring to influence on everybody. 335 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: Well, I think that would be great. I mean, I 336 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 2: actually think that the reason we live in a democracy 337 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 2: is to be able to have different opinions and you know, 338 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 2: kind of be able to voice those and things like that. 339 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 2: But we've lost that capacity. We can't. It's like we 340 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: cannot hold space for different views and just give allow 341 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: each other the space to discuss them, to hear people. 342 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 2: And I think that that is such a trickle down 343 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 2: version of how we all live life, because if you 344 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 2: really think about even romantic relationships, friendships, work relationships, all 345 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 2: of those things, it's the same dynamic. Like it's the 346 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: same thing of arguing whether you're right there wrong, Like 347 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 2: nobody has to be right or wrong. It's just different. 348 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,719 Speaker 2: And we've kind of seen Why are you nodding your 349 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: head like. 350 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 3: That, because you're right. 351 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 352 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 3: I mean what we've done is we've polarized. 353 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 2: That's the right word. 354 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, And we need to get back to a negotiation 355 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 3: of things, yeah, instead of polarizing everything. I mean, you know, 356 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 3: the mind of everybody is more important than the mind 357 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 3: of a singular right, And so you know, it's interesting 358 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 3: that we're going through this kind of energy and this 359 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 3: kind of experience with this new moon and we have 360 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 3: a mercury retrograde in Capricorn. Capricorn is ob is. The 361 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 3: authority is government, it's the people in power, so we're 362 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 3: going to have a different look. 363 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 2: How's it gonna say that power. 364 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 3: And authority during this retrograde. 365 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 2: I just have to laugh because it's like the universe 366 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 2: is just kind of like, Okay, you guys think you're 367 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 2: in charge here, let me just like, let's just take 368 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 2: a beat. Let me show you what's really happening. 369 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, And of course, you know, I don't know how 370 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 3: much numerology you know, but this is nine degrees of Capricorn? 371 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 3: Is it nine completion? 372 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 2: O comple? 373 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 3: Okay? And so where this is a significant phase to 374 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 3: where we're kind of completing this Capricorn paradigm. And we'll 375 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 3: talk more about that that started in two thousand and 376 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 3: eight and the next chapter of this. Yeah, so we're 377 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 3: really moving into a much more humanitarian way that we 378 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 3: can contribute to society in a meaningful way. 379 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 2: Well that's Aquarius, right, age of Aquarius. 380 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 3: Well, that will be ultimately the Aquarian concept. But Capricorn 381 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 3: is concerned about the dynamic of authority, the dynamic of power, 382 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 3: who holds power, who's holding authority, what's our standing in 383 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 3: the community, how's other people will see us? And so 384 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 3: that this marker retrograde at nine degrees. Leadership style is 385 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 3: going to be a big deal. Does this leadership style 386 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 3: take into consideration the well fellow everybody or is this 387 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,959 Speaker 3: just self aggrandizement from greater power. 388 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 2: It's a really good question to ask. 389 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 3: Oh that the Nixon question. 390 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 2: That makes sense. 391 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 3: Power absolute power corrupts absolutely and so we are certainly 392 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 3: looking at that at this point in time. Yeah, uh so, 393 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,479 Speaker 3: And we're you know, this is a completion of karmic task, 394 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 3: completion of certain karmic task and lessons. Are we all 395 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 3: going to move forward on a spiritual path? I mean, 396 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 3: if we've got a polarizing factor that's going on, how 397 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 3: is is bringing the collective into a much more spiritual 398 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 3: paradigm or are we just serving the master? Is this 399 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 3: just serving a power boonder? Is just just serving a 400 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 3: Is this serving everybody or just just a singular polarizing group. 401 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 3: It wants to tear the structures apart. Good question, great question. 402 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 3: So the great descriptive of this degree is blazing a 403 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 3: path toward a new national ideal. And you can see 404 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 3: that I have got highlighted there the women as the 405 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 3: soul of a nation. That's what this mercury retrograde means. 406 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 3: Now we go back to this whole feminine process that's 407 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 3: under a little bit of conflict and challenge to really 408 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 3: start finding the balance and the harmony, to force that 409 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 3: masculine into alignment, not just to go out there helter 410 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 3: skelter and just start surgically altering everything in its way. 411 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 3: I mean, how is the women the feminine side? And 412 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,239 Speaker 3: of course, I mean we can start looking at the 413 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 3: elections right now, and the feminine is pretty upset all 414 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 3: the way around. They've losing freedoms, they're losing the abilities 415 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 3: to dictate their own terms of how to live, what 416 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 3: they want to do in their lives and their families 417 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 3: and all of that. And so one of the things 418 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 3: that people don't understand a lot about mercer retrogrades is 419 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 3: when goes direct, I mean all the way up to 420 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:06,239 Speaker 3: nine degrees, it can't go past it, okay, until it 421 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 3: takes on a new perspective. So we can't get this 422 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 3: perspective that I just talked about of mercury until we 423 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 3: go back and experience merkery where it stops. We learned 424 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 3: that lesson, and then it goes forward and then we 425 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 3: can go past the nine degrees. 426 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 2: That's what the retrograde is is it's just. 427 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 3: Like we have it. 428 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, we haven't learned this yet, so we got to 429 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 2: like see it play out, have it brought the surface, 430 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 2: and then once we get it we can switch into 431 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 2: moving forward again. 432 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 3: Okay, So it goes direct the twenty three degree sagittarius 433 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 3: and this is what we need to bring into consciousness 434 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 3: to achieve the retrograde process. And so let's talk about that. 435 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 2: Let's do it, Mars. 436 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 3: This actually, so what we just talked about, this retrograde process, yeah, 437 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 3: will manifest on We'll begin to manifest on January the second. Okay, okay, 438 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 3: And so what are we going to learn in January 439 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 3: the second? We're going to have to We're going to 440 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 3: have a strong desire for mental and physical exploration. We're 441 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 3: going to be seeking knowledge and expanding our understanding of 442 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 3: the world. We're going to have a propensity to be 443 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 3: much more are open minded and the willingness to consider 444 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 3: diverse perspectives. We're going to have a stronger desire to 445 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 3: maintain personal freedom and to live life on one's own terms. 446 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 3: So how is that going to work in this polarized 447 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 3: day and age? You know? That's and so we're going 448 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 3: to be taking in a lot of thinking about that. 449 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,479 Speaker 3: And so the other thing we're going to do is 450 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 3: is starting to take a little more being a little 451 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 3: more risk and pursuing our own passions. Okay, you got 452 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 3: a lot of people with a lot of passion coming 453 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 3: out writing books, and a lot of intellectuals that are 454 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 3: that are coming to battle for the savior of the 455 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 3: society that we've had. And so the descriptive phase of 456 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 3: this Mercury retrograde of what we're learning fighting for and 457 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 3: defending one's personal and political freedom. Well, if that's what 458 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 3: this Mercury retrograde is about bringing into consciousness that concept, 459 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:32,239 Speaker 3: it's standing up for higher personal and national ideas. So 460 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 3: you're going to get people of great intellect, of just 461 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 3: normal everyday person it's going to say, wait a minute, 462 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 3: I'm not throwing the baby and the bath water out. Okay, 463 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 3: We're going to have to consider how this this conflict, 464 00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 3: this polarization has actually played out now. And I think 465 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 3: that that's what the mentality is going to be brought 466 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 3: in over the nixt couple of well the next year. 467 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 3: So guess when mercury actually goes direct. 468 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 2: I'm looking on the outline as if he's I don't know, 469 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 2: you tell me. 470 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 3: The same time Pluto enters Aquarius. 471 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 2: Well you say that as if I should know what 472 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 2: that means. 473 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 3: Well, that means we're moving into a brotherhood Aquarius. 474 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 2: So obviously. 475 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 3: A like mindedness and culture society. We're moving into the 476 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 3: concept what's good for one is good for all, and 477 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 3: what's great for one just one of power and authority 478 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 3: is not good for all. It's not a Christian a 479 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 3: christ a universal concept. And so if we're going if 480 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 3: we're moving into that, you're seeing how this whole month 481 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 3: now that I've described is setting us. 482 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 2: Up I do for that moment, Yeah, because we're not 483 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 2: even close to looking at things that way it feels. 484 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 2: So it seems like I get what you're saying now. 485 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 2: It seems like some things have to happen, which I'm 486 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 2: assuming this retrograde energy will bring these things, and we 487 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 2: could label those things good or bad. But realistically, now 488 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 2: that you've explained it in this way where it's like, 489 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 2: if we're going to get to the next step, we 490 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 2: gotta change these mentalities, We've got to experience these different 491 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 2: things and really feel the energy of that. Then of 492 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 2: course that's what's going to happen right now, and it 493 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 2: makes sense if that's what we're moving into. Like, if 494 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 2: that's if we're moving into that place that you just described, 495 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,760 Speaker 2: we definitely are going to have to have some major 496 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 2: AHAs well. 497 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 3: Let's go back, let's real quickly, just go back to 498 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 3: two thousand and eight when Pluto moved into Capricorn with 499 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 3: authority and government and people in power and they made 500 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,399 Speaker 3: super decisions and look what it. 501 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,280 Speaker 2: Left us with a recession. 502 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 3: Right, So that's the dynamic of the change. And so 503 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 3: now we've got to move into and the feminine is 504 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 3: going to lead the way. Yeah, because the Mercer retrograde 505 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 3: chart has a juno which is in a conflicted aspect. 506 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 3: So here again the feminine is going to lead us 507 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 3: in the correct way. And so it's we've got one 508 00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 3: issue with the sun. It conflicts for the individuality and 509 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 3: the need for relatedness. We're all going to have to 510 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 3: learn how to relate. And then it's also into Mars 511 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:16,760 Speaker 3: the challenge of cooperation versus competition. This stuff's gonna stop 512 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 3: and that's going to be the mark of retrograde as 513 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 3: teaching us as well. So a very strong, very powerful 514 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 3: feminine mind consciousness is going to be entering into the 515 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 3: masculine sign of Sagittarius. And see, Sagittarius is a fire sign, 516 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 3: so the fire signs are Aries, Leo and Sagittarius. Well, 517 00:37:53,320 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 3: fire is seeking self identity. So the masculine is asking 518 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 3: who am I? And it can't know that until the 519 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 3: feminine comes in and says, this is the vision, this 520 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 3: is the image forward, this is what we want. Now 521 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:17,720 Speaker 3: go to work. 522 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 2: That is so that it's hitting on semi. 523 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 3: Levels, okay, And so this the power of the feminine 524 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 3: in this whole time is now setting the stage for 525 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 3: us to move into the humanitarian sign of Aquarius worldwide, 526 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 3: not just in this country, worldwide. And we'll get more 527 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 3: deeper into that in the next podcast when we start 528 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 3: discussed when we start discussing how this is going to work. 529 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 2: Out, because in the finality, yeah. 530 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 3: And in the fire analysis, when Pluto goes back into 531 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 3: a Capricorn for just those couple of months, that's letting go. 532 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 3: It is the death of the old paradigm and what 533 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:23,359 Speaker 3: comes after death with Pluto read we're all going to 534 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 3: go through the dynamic of experiencing Aquarius, experiencing a different 535 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 3: consciousness experiencing a more harmonization of the feminine and the 536 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 3: masculine and the collective and the deep polarization of power 537 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 3: and authority. People that are just making decisions on the 538 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 3: basis of power and authority for themselves. 539 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 2: I mean, go ahead, Well, I was just going to say. 540 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 2: We always talk about it on the bigger scale, like 541 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,320 Speaker 2: the macro, you know, But I think it's really interesting 542 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 2: because when I just said that hits on multiple levels. 543 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 2: It's playing out in my life in a smaller capacity, 544 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 2: but it's these exact same dynamics, and so I think 545 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 2: it's really interesting when you hear the bigger version of 546 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 2: how this is playing out in the world, it's always 547 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 2: the same in your own personal life if you really 548 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 2: think about it and like really start weighing, even if 549 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 2: it was like energetically masculine and feminine, and like you said, 550 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 2: we have both within us, So it doesn't matter if 551 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 2: you're an actual male or female or you know, whatever, 552 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 2: because they're both within us. And so how is that 553 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 2: playing out on the small and the micro and your 554 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:46,359 Speaker 2: individual relationships within yourself even like those battles you know, 555 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 2: happening back and forth. And I just think it's really 556 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 2: interesting because it's all the same narrative, like the I 557 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 2: versus the we, the like the feminine leading because I 558 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 2: do think that feminine energy has a little more insight 559 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 2: to like the bigger picture. The masculines in the moment 560 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,839 Speaker 2: right here barreling forward, what do I need right now? 561 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 2: You know, Like there's just that mentality and the feminine's like, 562 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 2: wait a second, because I have this foresight that I 563 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,240 Speaker 2: see this thing and how this plays out for everybody. 564 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 2: And now that we get on the same page, now 565 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 2: go do the work, like you. 566 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,799 Speaker 3: Said, yeah, And I mean, you know, with and the 567 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 3: masculine without the feminine guidance, they're in. 568 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 2: Chaos, which is where we've been, right where we've been. 569 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,879 Speaker 2: So we're kind of like, oh, hold on a second, 570 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 2: not a little loss. 571 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 3: But this is you know, this is one of the 572 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:46,280 Speaker 3: seven hermatic principles as above, so below right at every level, 573 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 3: universal level, personal level, cultural level, society level, humanitarian level, 574 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 3: doesn't make any difference, right. I think one of the 575 00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:01,359 Speaker 3: most one of the most powerful things that a book 576 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 3: that I read many years ago, the Sphere of Destiny. 577 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 3: It was written by Trevor Ravenscroft. If anybody wants to 578 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 3: get it. But it was all about the spear and 579 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 3: all the things that went on during that time that 580 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 3: Jesus was hanging on the cross and killed. And he 581 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 3: made the point that there was just as much of 582 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,840 Speaker 3: that fighting, that same kind of fighting going on in 583 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:43,240 Speaker 3: the heavens between good and evil as there is going 584 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 3: on in this physical world. It can't go on in 585 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 3: this physical world unless it's going on in heaven, and 586 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 3: it can't go on in heaven unless it's going on here. 587 00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 3: Because all is mind. That's the other hermatic principle. So 588 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 3: everything is connected, there is no disconnect, and so all 589 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 3: these principles have to play out in the universe. Yeah, 590 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 3: that's all. This is what Sagittari is is really gifting 591 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 3: us with. It's gifting us with the beginnings of a 592 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:32,879 Speaker 3: higher consciousness. It's gifting with a higher consciousness that will 593 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 3: bring in a greater society, a less polarized society. 594 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 2: Well that I look forward to. Well, so to me, 595 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 2: how we get there will be a wild ride. 596 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 3: Well, but this is the point. Go back to what 597 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 3: we first talked about. You just keep your self confidence, 598 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 3: you keep yourself worth, and you know that you're capable 599 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 3: of handing anything that comes up at any moment in time. Yeah, 600 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 3: don't get wrapped up in the news, the media, the 601 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 3: shenanigans going on in the politics, the shenanigans going on 602 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 3: in the world, and the wars, and it's I mean, 603 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 3: what is different the way it's always been. 604 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 2: Just more access to media. I think that's it. Yeah, 605 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 2: I agree, there's no different. No, we just are. 606 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 3: Getting there's over one hundred wars going on in this 607 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 3: world right. 608 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 2: Now, and in all honesty, the fights that we're having, 609 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,839 Speaker 2: even the topics have also been going on forever. Like 610 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 2: it's the same fights, it's the same issues, it's the 611 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 2: same time. 612 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 3: Beauty. That's the beauty of the of the procession of 613 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:56,320 Speaker 3: the equinox, which is a twenty six thousand year possession. Okay, 614 00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,320 Speaker 3: so we're going into Aquarius for the first time. I'm 615 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 3: in twenty six thousand years. 616 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 2: It feels like a big deal. 617 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,919 Speaker 3: Soh you look at Pisces was we've had twenty we've 618 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 3: had twenty one hundred years of pieces and now we're 619 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:18,360 Speaker 3: going to go into twenty one hundred years of Aquarius. 620 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 3: And there's some beautiful, beautiful possibilities for that, and it's 621 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 3: most certainly the cornerstone of a higher consciousness. There is 622 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 3: no greater spiritual energy than than Uranus and Aquarius, and 623 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 3: we'll talk about that more in part two. 624 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 2: All right, Well, it'll be interesting when we do part 625 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 2: two because a lot of this will have played out, 626 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 2: so we'll be able to kind of reflect back and 627 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 2: see how we got to where we're going, which will 628 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,879 Speaker 2: be very interesting. In the meantime, Marv, if people want 629 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 2: to reach out and get in touch with you, where 630 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 2: would they do that. 631 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:12,800 Speaker 3: They could email me at Marvin at astromarvs dot com, 632 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 3: or they can go to my website at astromarv dot 633 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 3: com and just. 634 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,239 Speaker 2: To plug you for just a second. One of the 635 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 2: great things that Marv that it's really good for is 636 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,359 Speaker 2: giving a gift of a session. Like I thought this. 637 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 2: You don't even know I'm about to say this, but 638 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,359 Speaker 2: a friend of mine and I love to do that 639 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 2: as gifts to people. So like Christmas is coming up, 640 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 2: this I'm not doing gift guide. So this is what 641 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 2: I will give you, guys, is give give your loved 642 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 2: ones a session with Marv to do a chart reading 643 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,720 Speaker 2: at least, like it's a really great way to start 644 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,800 Speaker 2: if you're new to astrology, or you just want to 645 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 2: understand more about yourself, your path. It's like a life 646 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 2: coaching session as well, so hit him up for that. 647 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 2: I will put all his info in the description of 648 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 2: this podcast. Marv, thanks for being here with us today. 649 00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:00,399 Speaker 3: Well, thank you, thank you experts for the plug worse. 650 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,959 Speaker 2: I believe in that, so, you know, just spreading the love. 651 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 3: Well, see you already starting the whole sad new moon. 652 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 2: You're such a fucking humanitarian. I mean, it's just kidding, 653 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 2: all right. Thanks Mark for being here, and thanks you 654 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 2: guys for listening. 655 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Velvet's Edge podcast with Kelly Henderson, 656 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 1: where we believe everyone has a little velvet in a 657 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:29,240 Speaker 1: little edge. 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