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Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang on today's show. Yes, there is one

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Speaker 1: more game to be played, at least one more before

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Speaker 1: But it's the one game that was just played that's

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Speaker 1: proving difficult to process first though, the who, where and

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Speaker 1: when the playoffs will begin. It's Cardinals Cover two, episode

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Speaker 1: five twenty four, and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Cover two with Craig Griolou and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover

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Speaker 1: Slash podcasts. Going for Hopkins one hand to catch in

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Speaker 1: a touchdown DeAndre Hopkins. Here's Craig Griolou and Mike Jarecki.

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Speaker 1: As I mentioned on car Talk MJ, it was some

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Speaker 1: great theater on Sunday, especially that fourth quarter. You're paying

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Speaker 1: on in Los Angeles. It was certainly a mixture of emotions,

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Speaker 1: if you will, Especially early in that game. Cardinals take

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Speaker 1: Seahawks come back, tie the ball game up. Meanwhile, the

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Speaker 1: pull the starters, can't win the division. And then in

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Speaker 1: a matter of moments that second half begins. Cardinals catch fires,

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Speaker 1: scored two touchdowns, forty nine Ers catch fire, and all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, we've got two games, two ball games

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Speaker 1: of fun if you're a fan of either team, and

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Speaker 1: and that's the beauty of you know, lying the those

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Speaker 1: interesting because, you know, we played some of the highlights

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Speaker 1: part of the you know, the equation here and you

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Speaker 1: playoff game. Monday Night Football six fifteen, Arizona time Cardinals

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Speaker 1: one twenty to twenty five yard play, it flips it.

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Speaker 1: It's one chunk play all of a sudden. You're not

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Speaker 1: just throwing, you know, a five yard pass and hoping

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Speaker 1: the guy can break a tackle. So that's where that's

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Speaker 1: why I'm fixated on average per play. If you're only

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Speaker 1: averaging two point nine, you're a he's not getting time

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Speaker 1: to throw or be the receivers aren't getting separation, and

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Speaker 1: so Kyler's got to figure out do I run? But

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Speaker 1: it's difficult when you go on these long it's great

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Speaker 1: if you're playing against a really good offense and you're

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Speaker 1: keeping the other offense off the field, but you have

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Speaker 1: The thing is, we'd be having a different conversation, Craig,

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Speaker 1: if we talk about a nineteen play drive touchdown, we

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Speaker 1: talk about a fourteen play drive touchdown. We talk about

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Speaker 1: the other fourteen play drive, and the last two drives

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Speaker 1: were fourteen plays in fourteen plays ended up in field goals.

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Speaker 1: If they if let's just say two out of three

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Speaker 1: get touchdowns, we're having a different conversation. So yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's great to possess the ball and go on those drives,

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Speaker 1: but you have to score touchdowns. You cannot afford field goals.

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Speaker 1: Seventy two plays the offense ran, yeah, four point two

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Speaker 1: yards per play, so from two nine in the first

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Speaker 1: half overall four point two because they obviously were able

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Speaker 1: to move the ball more than the second half. By comparison,

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Speaker 1: Seahawks fifty seven plays seven point six yards per play.

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Speaker 1: And that goes back to to you know, obviously Lockett

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Speaker 1: had two touchdowns. Russell Wilson's through two touchdown he ran

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Speaker 1: for one. Yeah, that's the difference in the game right there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're making it harder on themselves

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Speaker 1: than they need to by you know, not being able

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Speaker 1: to score. And that wasn't an issue early in the season.

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Speaker 1: The scene was scoring thirty points a game. The turning

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Speaker 1: point before we switch it up to the defense. Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray brought this up on post game and it was

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Speaker 1: in the third quarter. Remember the Cardinals come out of

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Speaker 1: the gates. Kyler Murray at twenty yard touchdown pass that

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Speaker 1: James Connor, who broke a tackle, leaped into the end zone.

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Speaker 1: At that point, you're like, wow, James Connor he's back,

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Speaker 1: he's healthy. Tied it up four minutes into the second half,

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Speaker 1: seventeen seventeen. Jayalen Thompson with the interception, takes it down

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Speaker 1: to the Seahawks one yard line. James Connor punches it

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Speaker 1: in and at the nine twenty five mark of the

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Speaker 1: third quarter, Cardinals had a twenty four to seventeen lead.

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Speaker 1: Defense gets to stop, does its job, complimentary football on

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Speaker 1: four straight possessions, two offense to defense and then the

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Speaker 1: offense goes three and out and Kyler Murray brought that

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Speaker 1: up because it was a running play. James Connor nine yards,

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Speaker 1: second and one, Connor stopped for no gain. Third and one,

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray incomplete to aj Green. Andy Lee has to

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Speaker 1: punt the ball a three and ounce That perhaps flipped

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Speaker 1: this game in the seahawks favor because after that the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks had three possessions. They scored touchdowns on all three

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Speaker 1: of those possessions. Cardinals never scored another touchdown after that moment. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in normally Andy Lee has been automatic, but it appears

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Speaker 1: that they were getting pressure. So if he's seen something

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Speaker 1: with his peripheral vision, clearly he's gonna take the eye

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Speaker 1: off the ball. I don't know if that happened, but

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Speaker 1: he had to make a split decision. Either you run

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Speaker 1: in the end zone for a safety, which now you

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Speaker 1: have to punt the ball to him. He tried to

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Speaker 1: get out of traffic. I knew I had a good

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Speaker 1: angle on it from where I was sitting in the

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Speaker 1: press box next to you, And if he could have

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Speaker 1: taken one or two steps, he would have tried to

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Speaker 1: boot that. Maybe it only goes nineteen yards, but he

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Speaker 1: got called from behind. So that second guess is a

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Speaker 1: split decision. But we normally don't see that from Andy Lee.

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Speaker 1: And again, special teams is something we don't focus on

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Speaker 1: unless something goes wrong. But they were getting pressure from

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Speaker 1: the outside, so I gotta think that he a may

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Speaker 1: take his eye off the ball or he felt rushed

497
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Speaker 1: because he knew that they were coming. And that's the

498
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Speaker 1: worst place to be when you're punning. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: switch it up here on Cardinals Covered two presented by Hunday,

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Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Cardinals lose on Sunday

501
00:29:55,320 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: the regular season finale thirty eight to thirty and the

502
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Speaker 1: defense and yes, there are a lot of issues with

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Speaker 1: this team on the defense side of the wall. But

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Speaker 1: I'll repeat what I said earlier here. This team is

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Speaker 1: only going to go as far as the offense takes them.

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Speaker 1: And the defense has played great all season long, but

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Speaker 1: now they're getting hit with injuries, especially in the secondary,

508
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Speaker 1: and it's costing them. Now, I see that, and I

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Speaker 1: agree with something Jalen Thompson said post game. Doesn't matter

510
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Speaker 1: who's on the field who's not. If we're gonna believe

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Speaker 1: in this next man up mentality and praise players when

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Speaker 1: they come in and perform at as a backup. Now

513
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden turned starter, then we can't now

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Speaker 1: sit back and say, well, no, Marco Wilson, no, Robert Alfred,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Peterson gets hurt. What were you going to expect? No? Sorry,

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Speaker 1: if the players before we can even say it, say no,

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Speaker 1: whoever's on the field, the standard is the standard next

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Speaker 1: man up. Well, someone needs to step up on this defense.

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Speaker 1: And you look at how the game started. It's the

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Speaker 1: only time Russell Wilson sacked in the ball game. Now,

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00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: there were a handful of times where he slipped through

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Speaker 1: the fingertips of a Chandler Jones or Marcus Golden or

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Speaker 1: Devon Kinnard. And that's the elusiveness of Russell Wilson which

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00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: makes him so difficult to bring down. But you needed

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Speaker 1: to bring down Russell Wilson because he was picking apart

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Speaker 1: the secondary. And now it's that string that you talk about.

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Speaker 1: Is it the pass rush or is it the secondary?

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Speaker 1: And when you don't have two of your top three corners,

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Speaker 1: you need to be able to get pressure on Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: And then you have mistakes and players who are not

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Speaker 1: used to being on the football field, not maybe knowing

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Speaker 1: exactly what they're supposed to do. And then you have

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Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett running wide open and blown coverages for touchdowns

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Speaker 1: that I don't know. The only way you can correct

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Speaker 1: it is keep working on it. But that's what scares

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Speaker 1: me going into the postseason as far as this secondary

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Speaker 1: and the number of chunk place that you brought up.

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00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: Seahawks had nine of twenty or more yards, Cardinals had three.

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Speaker 1: Now let's get back to Brion Borders. Next man up.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't disagree with that, but he's been

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Speaker 1: here all along, and yeah, you're right, there is a

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Speaker 1: limit to how far down the depth chart you can say,

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Speaker 1: next man up. He has been here, has not been

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Speaker 1: on defense. Yeah, I'll see you know, we say, next

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Speaker 1: man up, Kevin Peterson. Yes, he's been here, this guy,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they were just trying to fill a spot

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Speaker 1: and that's why they went out and got Brelan. And

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Speaker 1: hopefully he's going to be active because this is what

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Speaker 1: they got a veteran corner for in the place in

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Speaker 1: the postseason, and hopefully. We don't know the latest on Alford.

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00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: We don't know the latest on Marco Wilson, but Borders

552
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: was just thrown out there because of Kevin Peterson getting

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Speaker 1: a concu I mean, and they targeted him, but they

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Speaker 1: really targeted Antonio Hamilton. They went after him, and you know,

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Speaker 1: just looking at some of the numbers from Pro Football Focus,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Hamilton's saw eight passes thrown into coverage, three

557
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Speaker 1: or more than any other player and double the number

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Speaker 1: of any cornerbacks. He lulled four catches for sixty three

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Speaker 1: yards a score, giving up a first down or a

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Speaker 1: score on three of the four catches they targeted him.

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Speaker 1: They would have been they would have targeted twenty one

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Speaker 1: if they had more. You know, I guess at that

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Speaker 1: point they figured we're going to target him, and then

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Speaker 1: Byron Murphy was, you know, trying to cover some other guys.

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Speaker 1: So I get the next man up, but this guy's

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Speaker 1: been here for a week and a half. You're right,

567
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: because the next man up is the immediate backup. But

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Speaker 1: when you're now looking at your sixth cornerback, that now,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden puts him in a disadvantaged position.

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Speaker 1: And you know, the opposing team, we talked about it.

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Speaker 1: There's someone either on the sideline or up in the booth.

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Speaker 1: Whenever a brand new number enters the ballgame, all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, it's like a magnet. Russell Wilson, all right,

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Speaker 1: twenty one, All right, I don't care if you have

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Speaker 1: good coverage or not. You're not gonna beat my guy

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Speaker 1: nine times out of ten. And that's what happened. And

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Speaker 1: same thing with Antonio Hamilton. So you can try to

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Speaker 1: scheme it up. Cardinals were able to do it against

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys without Marco Wilson and without Robert Alford. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: Breon Borders playing more than he perhaps was needed. I

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Speaker 1: mean he was needed, but playing more than this team

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Speaker 1: probably ever expected him to be on the field for well, honestly,

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Speaker 1: I think he was active as somebody got hurt. I

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Speaker 1: didn't anticipate in playing. I don't. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: if he played on teams. I mean, I can look

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Speaker 1: it up, but I'm just saying in general, I mean,

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Speaker 1: normally you've got to play on teams if you're you know,

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Speaker 1: a backup player. But my thought is, are we gonna

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Speaker 1: see this guy at all? Eighteen defensive snaps, six on

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Speaker 1: special team, okay, and some Sunday And that's how you

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00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: got to That's how you get a roster spot. Now,

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Speaker 1: the thing is, I think Antonio Hamilton has been a

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Speaker 1: nice addition. But what what I mean by that, that's

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Speaker 1: because you had Robert Alford, you had Bryan Murphy, and

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Speaker 1: then you had Marco Wilson. So now he was the

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Speaker 1: fourth corner. Now, all of a sudden, he's two or

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Speaker 1: three after Kevin Peterson goes down, so he's basically two.

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Speaker 1: And I think Hamilton's been a nice addition. But all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, when you move up that depth chart,

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Speaker 1: you got to cover DK Metcalf, you gotta colored Tyler Lockett. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I mean what's interesting is the secondary was the

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Speaker 1: strength pretty much the entire season, and then injury started.

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Speaker 1: And then let's be honest. I mean Marco Wilson hasn't

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Speaker 1: played up to par. I mean teams are targeting him. Now,

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Speaker 1: teams are targeting Byron Murphy. And it's the catch twenty two.

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Speaker 1: You get in pressure or you know, because it's tough

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Speaker 1: in this league for these guys to cover. They're also

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00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: a plaster covers and and and I understand what Jalen

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Speaker 1: Thompson is saying, because that's what you're taught. You're taught

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Speaker 1: next man up. There should be no drop off. But

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Speaker 1: we know that next man up only works at certain

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00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: positions and only so far down the depth chart, right,

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Speaker 1: you can you like when they won without Byron Murphy

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Speaker 1: and Marco Wilson, that's one game here. It's it's been

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Speaker 1: a downward spiral effect where it's affecting the entire secondary

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Speaker 1: and that's where Buddha and Jalen Thompson have to do

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Speaker 1: a lot more. Now, So if your advanced, Joseph, and

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Speaker 1: you're looking at this film, and it's not great film

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Speaker 1: to watch. Four hundred and thirty one total yards by

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks, most allowed by the Cardinals this season two

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Speaker 1: hundred and two rushing yards gained by the Seahawks, most

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Speaker 1: allowed by the Cardinals this season, the fifth best third

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Speaker 1: down defense going into that game. Seahawks win eight of twelve,

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Speaker 1: including six of eight in the first half. Vance Joseph

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Speaker 1: the decision now and his coaching staff, how do you overcome?

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Speaker 1: Perhaps Marco Wilson is available this week. Maybe Robert Alford

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Speaker 1: is available this week. What's the latest on Kevin Peterson,

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Speaker 1: who is being evaluated for a concussion. What do you do?

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Speaker 1: Because it's on the coaches to scheme it up and

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Speaker 1: then the players to execute. Yeah, well again, I mean, okay,

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Speaker 1: let's take a look at Brelan. He's only been here

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Speaker 1: a while, but what does he have. He has NFL experience,

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Speaker 1: and he's got good size, and according to Vans, he

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Speaker 1: picked up the defense. So nothing against you know, Brelan

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Speaker 1: and Borders. I gotta think we're gonna see Brelan as

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Speaker 1: just because he's got experienced, he wasn't ready and you know,

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Speaker 1: like I said, going to that game, I think they

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Speaker 1: were hoping three corners would stay healthy and they didn't

639
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: have to use that fourth corner. But I think Bland

640
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: has to be part of the equation here. Just some

641
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: experience standpoint. And again he's only been here a while,

642
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: but he has experience. He's played against NFL teams and quarterbacks.

643
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 1: I mean, it sound like he was on the street

644
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: for a while. He was in Minnesota. So but again,

645
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: they got to get some of these veteran guys back.

646
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: You know, nothing against Marco Wilson, but I got to

647
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: think that they would target him once he gets back

648
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: here just because he's he's a rookie. Now, that's the

649
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: secondary as far as the front seven is concerned and

650
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: the run defense, what Rashad Penny did was spectacular. One

651
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety yards last week and one hundred ninety

652
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: yards this week. Eight point three yards per carry. Run

653
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: defense has been talked about. It's been debated all season long.

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00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: There have been some highs, there have been some lows.

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00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: Last week an incredible high, holding the Cowboys to a

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00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 1: season low forty five rushing yards. Yet one week later,

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00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: the Seahawks pounded one hundred and excuse me, two hundred

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00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,959
Speaker 1: and two rushing yards on this Cardinals defense. Well, he's

659
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: been a tear for weeks now and he didn't stop yesterday.

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Speaker 1: He finished one hundred ninety rushing yards as you point it,

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00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty three Craig, which came after contact

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00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: and with you know, with the sixty two yard late

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00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: run to extended Seattle's lead. But this guy's been on

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Speaker 1: a tear the last few weeks, so that shouldn't have

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Speaker 1: been a surprise. And you know, I want to say

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Speaker 1: he's a free agent because I think they try to

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00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: up Chris Carson and so yeah, I mean it's you

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00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: kind of knew they were going to run the ball,

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Speaker 1: but I would I would have one hundred and ninety yards.

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00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: That's a lot fifty nine yards and the first half

671
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty one yards, and the second half

672
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: he averaged almost eleven yards a harry and the second

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00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: half and even gaining yards and big chunks of yards

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Speaker 1: when the Cardinals knew exactly what the Seahawks were going

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00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,439
Speaker 1: to do, and that was run the football to try

676
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 1: to run out the clock and maintain possession of the football.

677
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: So whether that's and it's not a great phrase, but

678
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: I don't know how else to explain it. Gap integrity,

679
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: Guys freelancing, not doing what they're supposed to do, taking

680
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: bad angles, bad decisions over pursuing, and this is across

681
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 1: the board, young players, veterans. It's not pretty, especially when

682
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they're these wide open lanes. That

683
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 1: sixty two yard run in the fourth quarter. No running

684
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: backs should have a sixty plus run on a defense

685
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. Yeah, and you look at his

686
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: last five games, ninety carries, six hundred and fifty four yards,

687
00:40:54,400 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: six rushing touchdowns. I mean, I guess when the way

688
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: I look at it is because we go back to well,

689
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: they're not giving up one hundred and seventy five yards

690
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: on the ground. It's usually about one twenty one thirty.

691
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: But that was a backbreaker. That's sixty two yard run.

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00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: That was a backbreaker because you could see that the

693
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: Cardinals were on their heels versus being on their toes.

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00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: You're looking for another stop. Matt Prador had just kicked

695
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: a thirty yard field goal, make it thirty one twenty

696
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: seven with six fourteen to go. Seahawks had the ball

697
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals just need one stop to get the

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00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: ball back. First play Russell Wilson Tyler Lockett eleven yards,

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00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 1: Second play Penny two yards up the middle, and then

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Speaker 1: on second and eight up the middle again for sixty

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00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: two yards, and for all intentsive purposes, the game was

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00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: over at that moment thirty eight twenty seven with four

703
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: thirty four to go. Yep, yep, And that was a backbreaker.

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Speaker 1: And they scored I want to say, three touchdowns in

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00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: the last seventeen or eighteen minutes of the game. Three

706
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: touchdowns and the Cardinals are kicking field goals. That was

707
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: a difference in the game, besides obviously not being able

708
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: to convert on third down and not being able to

709
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: score in the red zone. Not a great performance by

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Speaker 1: the defense. Yet, I'll go back to how we kind

711
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: of began this discussion of Week eighteen against the Seahawks.

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00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: It's the offense. They need to get it corrected. Now.

713
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: The defense has its own issues, and yeah, you try

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00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 1: to fix things there as well, but the offense needs

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00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: to get back on track. It's the head coach, it's

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00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: the quarterback. They're the ones that run this offense, and

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00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: it's on them to figure things out and make this

718
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: not a one and done situation in the postseason, because

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00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: you know exactly what the narrative is going to be. MJ.

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Speaker 1: You lose in the first round of the playoffs. Well,

721
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: now you're five of six. You've lost five of six

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Speaker 1: after a ten and two start. It's great having a

723
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: no tenant too, but twenty twenty one is going to

724
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Speaker 1: be remembered how this team performs in the playoffs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And just something that came to mind. How about when

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00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: we start talking about the secondary, the blown coverages. I

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00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: mean that twenty five yard passed to Freddie Swaying. Yeah,

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00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 1: the Cardinals didn't cover them. It looked like Simmons and Hamilton,

729
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: we're both chasing Metcalf. That should not happen. If if Now,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're playing zone or man to man,

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Speaker 1: because zone is you have corners, you have space. Man

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00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: to man you're playing basically you're trying to press guys

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Speaker 1: at the line screams and I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: can press DK Metcalf. And in the way they motioned

735
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett, you would think they're playing more zone. But

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Speaker 1: you you had two guys chasing Metcalf and the other

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00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: guys just blown coverage. Again, that it happens, but it

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00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: shouldn't be happening at this point in the year. But

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00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: when you have young players out there to happen. It

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00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 1: is very, very difficult here as we speak on Monday,

741
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 1: immediately after Week eighteen, to feel confident about this football

742
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: team going into the playoffs. You look at everyone else,

743
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: all fourteen teams. The only other team that is limping

744
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: into the postseason, the New England Patriots, have lost three

745
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: at four. Everyone else either is going in on a

746
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: winning streak, winning in Week seventeen or if they didn't

747
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: win in Week seventeen, Ie Packers, Eagles, they at least

748
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: one two in a row beforehand, three out of four beforehand.

749
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: There's some momentum, there's some positivity here for the Cardinals.

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00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: It's very difficult to find that, to feel that, and

751
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: as fans and people that cover the team, that's all

752
00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: we can go on. We are judging them based off

753
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: what we see for sixty minutes on Sundays and for

754
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: the last month and a half. One quality performance the

755
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, and I thought once they once they clinch,

756
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: should playoff earth. Yes, they didn't take care of business

757
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: like they should have. I thought, you know, maybe the

758
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: pressure is off and now you just go out there

759
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: and play free. And they showed that in the Cowboys game,

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00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: and I was hoping there was carry over, you know,

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00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 1: because you know, if you win these last two games,

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00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, we got some momentum, we found something.

763
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: Now it was a good quality win against the Cowboys,

764
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: and then you come back here and again three and

765
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: five at homes not gonna, not gonna cut it. And

766
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden we have more questions and

767
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: answers going into this first playoff game. I'd like the

768
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 1: match up though, I mean maybe I'm just, you know, familiar.

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Speaker 1: We're familiar with that team, and you know Matthew Stafford.

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00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: You know, he's a good quarter back and there's a

771
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: reason why they went out and got him. But I

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00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: still think we match up with them. Now. Is that

773
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: the team that played in Week four or is that

774
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: the team that got throttled at home again? The only

775
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: thing I can go buy is for some reason they

776
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: play better on the road, But there's no guaranteed if

777
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: you don't play complimentary football, if you turn the ball

778
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: over and you let them. You know, I don't think

779
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: their running game is as good as the Seahawks. I mean,

780
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: Shanny Michelle's did a nice job. Cam Akers is back now.

781
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: Cam Akers is back, but he's just coming off in

782
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: ACL and he's kind of limited snaps, but he is

783
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 1: an option. It's more about their weapons and how Sean

784
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: mcvagh calls the game. That's what's going to come down to,

785
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: and then their defense against the Cardinals offense. We'll leave

786
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 1: you with this bird Gang Kyle, the Murray postgame quote,

787
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 1: the mood of the team. I think everyone realizes it's

788
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: a new season. Really nothing in the past matters at

789
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: this point. You have to go one to Oh, it's

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00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 1: one and done. I think the guys understand that end quote.

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00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: And let's hope that's the case. MJ. Because it's easy

792
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,240
Speaker 1: to say, flip the switch, turn the page, clean slates.

793
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: I get all that. We're gonna hear it all week long.

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00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: For me, though, it's not very inspiring on what we've

795
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: seen out of this football team. We get a lot

796
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: of emails from the NFL Network just kind of promoting

797
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: their different shows, and yesterday one of their topic was

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00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: can the Arizona Cardinals trust Cayla Murray in his first

799
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: trip to the postseason. That was a narrator on the

800
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: NFL Network over the weekend. Knowing that they're going to

801
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: be in the playoffs, it's different in the playoffs. And

802
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: yes they have experienced on this team, but this is

803
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 1: this is going to be even amped higher than playing

804
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: on Monday night football, playing on Christmas night, and we'll

805
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: see how this team handles it, not so much just

806
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: a quarterback, but the team as a whole, because if

807
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: they win this playoff game, oh, all of a sudden,

808
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: you know, hey, listen, what's the next matchup? And it's

809
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: all it takes is one game. But we know that

810
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: it's just let's be honest here, we just wish they

811
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: were playing better down the stretch exactly. And that's what

812
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: we'll talk about when we have our another conversation here

813
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 1: this week when we maybe are able to turn the page,

814
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: wipe the slate clean, if you will, midweek, when we

815
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Speaker 1: really start talking about Super Wildcard weekend. Yeah, I mean yeah,

816
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: the regular season is over, Craig. Now it's about the postseason.

817
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: And granted, yes they got out to a great start.

818
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: They're not playing as well, but they are one of

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Speaker 1: fourteen teams and that's the big picture. That was the goal. Obviously,

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00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: the goal to me is always to win the division.

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Speaker 1: It's not ideal, and you know, look, I'm Glad you

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Speaker 1: mentioned the Patriots. You would think Bill Belichick's teams don't

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00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: lose in the month of December. Well, they maybe one

824
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: and done and playing the Buffalo Bills doesn't mean I'm

825
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: not I'm not judging that. But if you're not playing

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Speaker 1: good football and you're not playing complinary football, it's tough

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Speaker 1: to win in the NFL. I don't care what your

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Speaker 1: record is. On that note Bird Gang, We'll kind of

829
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: let this simmer. We'll try to recollect our thoughts and

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00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: start focusing on playoff football because it has been six

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00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: seasons since this team was last in the playoffs. Craig,

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00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: the regular seasons over, let's move on on that notes.

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Speaker 1: We will. We will put a lid on this edition

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Speaker 1: of Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hunday, probably partner of

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our executive

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Speaker 1: producer Joe Almandro for Mike Dreki, I'm Craig Rayel Loop.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals Gober two.