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Speaker 1: State All American, Rich Hornberger and FSR betting analyst Jared Smith.

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Speaker 3: Oh what is going on?

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Speaker 4: Happy Saturday to you as we have ball galore. Man,

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what. Good morning, Jared, Good morning, Rich,

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Speaker 4: Hope all as.

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Speaker 5: Well, Horner, Good morning everybody.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of funny, right like, uh, we'll get into

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Speaker 4: you know, ripping the band aid off with the un Lions.

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Speaker 5: You know what, Bro, I'll be honest, they're dead to

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Speaker 5: me again. I've them today, I know, I.

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Speaker 2: Know, I never heard of them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good drop.

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Speaker 5: That was a good drop, Chris.

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Speaker 4: But I also feel like our guy, Chris, you know,

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Speaker 4: shout out to him. Chris Purfett, Technical Producer, extraordinaire. You

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Speaker 4: know he greets me. I always, I always, for whatever reason,

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Speaker 4: I either go yow or why app Those are my

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Speaker 4: two greetings for Chris him with the YO this morning,

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Speaker 4: and he was just like yo. It was kind of

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Speaker 4: like that, like someone had had punched him directly in

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Speaker 4: the stomach, which is exactly what happened last night. Unfortunately.

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Speaker 4: You know, this guy is all about Detroit and a

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Speaker 4: fifteen inning game winner. Take Hall, the Mariners, take it.

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Speaker 4: And I just thought of you as soon as I

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Speaker 4: heard Chris.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 7: You know what the worst part is, I got in

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Speaker 7: this morning and someone jacked one of my energy drinks

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Speaker 7: I had in the fridge. Oh so, like I am

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Speaker 7: up late, I'm up late, getting my heart ripped out,

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Speaker 7: and now someone else has committed a crime against me.

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Speaker 4: That's cheez, that is that's the worst timing possible.

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Speaker 2: I would I would call the police, honestly, I would.

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Speaker 2: I would open an investigation.

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Speaker 4: It's a factory of sadness here between you guys and

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Speaker 4: your Nitney Lions and over it and Detroit over it.

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Speaker 3: You know, we got to get some stuff going in

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Speaker 3: our direction over here.

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Speaker 2: You know, we need to win. We need to win.

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Speaker 5: Play Northwestern today. All will be well to blow out Northwestern,

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Speaker 5: and if they don't, I don't want to be in

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Speaker 5: the are you imagine just imagine if they go down

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Speaker 5: seven to nothing and it's like three and out on

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Speaker 5: the first drive. I mean, and it's home coming. I

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Speaker 5: have a bunch of friends that are in town this

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Speaker 5: week and happy ballot. It's it could get bad.

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Speaker 8: That's what I did last week, Jared I said to myself.

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Speaker 8: I was like, well, the Nittney, for sure, they're gonna.

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Speaker 2: Blow out UCLA.

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Speaker 5: They stink.

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Speaker 8: I mean, they're favored by close to twenty five points.

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Speaker 8: I was talking so much mess I was like, Oh,

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Speaker 8: let's throw it on the parlay platter and you might

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Speaker 8: even see it on rapid fire.

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Speaker 2: We put it.

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Speaker 5: I put it in a rapid fire. I think we

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Speaker 5: all we go collective O nine last week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh that's wow, only one way to go. But

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Speaker 4: up right here, rapid fire was a disaster. The parlay

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Speaker 4: platter was a bloodbath. We were just wrong. We were

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Speaker 4: way way wrong.

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Speaker 2: Way wrong.

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Speaker 3: We rallied this week. But I do have it's related

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Speaker 3: to Penn State.

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Speaker 4: But I do have a question that's not solely about

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Speaker 4: the Niitney Lions.

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Speaker 3: I was just thinking about this.

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Speaker 4: Where if you look at if you look at the

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Speaker 4: preseason AP poll, Okay, you had Texas number one, Penn

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Speaker 4: State number two, Clemson was number four, all unranked. Now right, like,

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Speaker 4: So do you think it's more of a good thing

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Speaker 4: landscape that we have Texas, Penn State, Clemson, brand names, pizzazz,

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Speaker 4: that's a good thing or a bad thing for college football?

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Speaker 2: I think overall, parody is good for all sports.

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Speaker 8: Now, I will also say this, and this may sound

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Speaker 8: hypocritical based off of what I just said.

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Speaker 2: People, they naturally gravitate towards.

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Speaker 8: Dynasties and villains, like I think Nick Saban and Alabama

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Speaker 8: being in the top five and winning national championships or

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Speaker 8: parts of two decades is actually a good thing. I

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Speaker 8: think that if we want to look at other sports,

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Speaker 8: you know, having the Patriots dynasty or a completely different

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Speaker 8: sport altogether, the Golden State Warriors dynasty. Like those things

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Speaker 8: are good for sports. However, you need to have the

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Speaker 8: deck shuffle up a little bit underneath some of those

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Speaker 8: consummate good teams that everybody's trying to pop off against,

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Speaker 8: because if you don't, you have situations where you're sitting

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Speaker 8: around in South Bend, Indiana, or State College Pennsylvania, or

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Speaker 8: you know, you're somewhere in South Beach, Florida, and you're thinking,

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Speaker 8: when is it our turn?

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Speaker 2: You know, so you need some level of parody.

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Speaker 8: So overall, I do think it is good to have

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Speaker 8: a complete reshuffling of the top five, the majority of

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Speaker 8: the teams being out.

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Speaker 5: I agree, But I also think the bigger takeaway for

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Speaker 5: me is the preseason polls are just completely worthless, completely worthless. Like,

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Speaker 5: State defending national champs. Miami gets Carson Beck. Oregon was

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Speaker 5: Those are all teams that were in the mix. And

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Speaker 5: then Oklahoma brings in John Mattier. Indiana was in the

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Speaker 5: games start, watch the games of absorb what you're seeing,

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Speaker 5: and then reevaluate accordingly. Let's be honest. After the first

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Speaker 5: they didn't look that hot. They didn't look that hot.

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Speaker 5: Clemson didn't look that hot. Right out of the gate,

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Speaker 5: Texas scored a touchdown one touchdown in the opening game

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Speaker 5: once you got that first glimpse of those top teams,

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Speaker 3: It's not.

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Speaker 5: It is absolutely not. Do I think Penn State and

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Speaker 5: Texas deserve to be in the top twenty five in

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Speaker 5: terms of talent and where they are as a pedigree's program, Yes,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Listen, it depends on the perspective here. If it's

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Speaker 4: college football, I don't think the suits that ESPN would

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Speaker 4: have preferred it to work out the way that it has.

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Speaker 4: Like if you could give them Texas brand name, arch

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Speaker 4: Manning right, Penn State, like, can they finally do it?

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Speaker 4: James Franklin Clemson with Dabbo, We've got equity there. I

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Speaker 4: think that's more of a sellable college football playoff than say,

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Speaker 4: like like Miami's got some pizzazz, but Ole Miss you

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Speaker 4: got Lane Kiffen and Okay, in Texas, A and M.

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Speaker 4: They play a fun style of football. But that's not

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Speaker 3: That's not what it is.

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Speaker 4: So if you're looking at it from ESPN's perspective, they

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Speaker 4: would absolutely much rather have Texas Penn State than Clemson

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Speaker 4: of teams like Ole Miss and A and M. I

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Speaker 4: think it's interesting what Rich said about parody, and you

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Speaker 4: think about how many years was it, you know, before

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Speaker 3: You know that's what it was gonna be.

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Speaker 4: And for so many years it was so obviously predictable

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Speaker 4: you get a topsy turvy, top five, top ten. I

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Speaker 4: think overall that's good for college football. The funny thing

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Speaker 3: It wasn't like that.

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Speaker 4: So I think from ESPN's perspective, they would much rather

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Speaker 8: But I mean, already there has been so much change

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Speaker 2: Thank goodness because they stink now.

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Speaker 8: But my point, going back to parody, really that is

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Speaker 8: good for sports. But you also fans. They like the

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Speaker 5: Like, it's just every week in this sport you are

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Speaker 4: we got the Mazoo Tigers over here, and how about

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Speaker 4: And I said, just a couple of minutes ago, will

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Speaker 4: This isn't your typical like Nick Saban Alabama Juggernaut over

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Speaker 5: entire second half zero So I feel like this is

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Speaker 5: kind of the corner for Bama where they've kind of

437
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Speaker 5: been sleeping a little bit, even though they went on

438
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Speaker 5: the road and beat Georgia, which no one's done in

439
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Speaker 5: six years. And now they get a spot where everyone's like, wow,

440
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Speaker 5: only three points spread against Miszoo, like how good is

441
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Speaker 5: Bama this year? And they win by thirty and you're like, oh, wow,

442
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Speaker 5: Bama's really good. We need to take them very seriously.

443
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Speaker 5: It feels like this might be that.

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Speaker 4: Game, you know, It's funny to me because I think

445
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Speaker 4: you could play this game with both teams where if

446
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Speaker 4: you say they're not great in filling the blank, the

447
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 4: other team can easily exploit that. Where if you think

448
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Speaker 4: about Miszoo, like you just said, Jared, not great in

449
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Speaker 4: the secondary, and it's like, it's not the game to

450
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Speaker 4: be not great in the secondary where you're facing Ty

451
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Speaker 4: Simpson and a really talented trio of wide receivers. Not

452
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Speaker 4: a great time to be not great in the secondary.

453
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Speaker 4: I also look at Bama not great against the rush, Jared.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned the Florida State game. Florida State shreded Alabama,

455
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Speaker 4: and you look at Mazoo what they're doing with this

456
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Speaker 4: ground game with Matt Hardy and Prabulah can get after

457
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Speaker 4: it as a like a dual threat running quarterback. They've

458
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Speaker 4: got a great one to two punch in terms of

459
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Speaker 4: running backs. Not a great time, not a great time

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Speaker 4: for Alabama to not be peak Bama against the rush.

461
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Speaker 4: So I think with both teams, Bama against the rush,

462
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Speaker 4: Mazoo against the pass, in this specific matchup, you know,

463
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Speaker 4: styles make make fights, and this is not a great

464
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Speaker 4: matchup for either team. The areas they're not great in

465
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Speaker 4: the other team is great in and can easily exploit

466
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Speaker 4: those weaknesses.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 8: Ty Simpson obviously can throw that ball around the yard.

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Speaker 2: We've seen that, and then likewise Mott hardy.

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Speaker 8: If you want the facts to back up what Brian

471
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Speaker 8: no is saying right there, he has the highest grading

472
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Speaker 8: college football on Pro Football.

473
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Speaker 2: Focus in terms of elusiveness.

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Speaker 8: He has forced forty six mixed miss tackles over one

475
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Speaker 8: hundred and six carries. I mean, the guy can flat

476
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Speaker 8: out make him miss, and so they've got a high

477
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Speaker 8: success rate against uh when they're running these these these

478
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Speaker 8: man blocking schemes in their run game, which basically means

479
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Speaker 8: instead of being responsible for a zone or a gap

480
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Speaker 8: in a zone blocking scheme, you're told, as you know,

481
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Speaker 8: whatever the offensive tackle and offensive guard to the playside

482
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Speaker 8: on power, you are double teaming that guy back to

483
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Speaker 8: that linebacker. Ready break, you know, Like that's that's the

484
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Speaker 8: type of offense that Missouri wants to get to, and

485
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Speaker 8: oddly that's exactly what Alabama has struggled against in the

486
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Speaker 8: past on the ground.

487
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Speaker 2: When you go against teams who are to your.

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Speaker 8: Point, Brian, trying to bully them, they they shrink, They Cower,

489
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Speaker 8: whereas in the past that was always a strength. You

490
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 8: can't run the ball on Bama. They're gonna get aggressive

491
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Speaker 8: on third down. They're gonna force you into negative plays.

492
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Speaker 8: They're gonna generate them both in the pass rush but

493
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Speaker 8: also TfL is in the run game. They're not doing

494
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Speaker 8: that this year, so they can't control the games the

495
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Speaker 8: way they used to. Now they have a better shot

496
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Speaker 8: of it with jam Miller being back and turning the

497
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Speaker 8: run game around. But we'll see, We'll see how this

498
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Speaker 8: one pans out. I mean, oddly, even though the line's

499
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Speaker 8: moving in Bama's favor, I still like Missouri with the

500
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Speaker 8: points I mean, only furthers the case for me.

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Speaker 2: If you know, if.

502
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Speaker 8: People love Bama, it's only gonna sweeten the deal for

503
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Speaker 8: the to take the Tiger side.

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Speaker 2: So that's my feeling on this game.

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Speaker 8: I obviously you don't know the outcomes, and that's why

506
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 8: sports are so fun and also so frustrating if you're

507
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Speaker 8: a sports better.

508
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Speaker 2: But I don't trust Bama. I just don't trust him

509
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Speaker 2: this year.

510
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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I'm I think I'm on the other side

511
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Speaker 5: of I don't trust Missoo. I mean Missoo's first of all,

512
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Speaker 5: Missouri doesn't even play a road game until next week.

513
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 5: They have not left the state of Missouri yet. It's

514
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 5: we're in October here. I personally, I never trust a

515
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Speaker 5: college football team until they go.

516
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Speaker 3: On the road.

517
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Speaker 5: I just I need to see you do it away

518
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Speaker 5: from the cozy confines of your home state and your

519
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 5: home stadium. That's why Bama's win at Georgia was so

520
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 5: impressive for me. That's why I trust Bama. If you

521
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 5: can go between the hedges and beat a team that

522
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Speaker 5: hasn't lost at home in six years, I have full

523
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Speaker 5: faith in your ability to go to Columbia Missouri for

524
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 5: a sleepy eleven am central kick and handle your business.

525
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Speaker 5: The running game for Missouri is legit amat Hardy. They run,

526
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Speaker 5: they Eli Drinkowitz. It's a wide zone scheme. They will

527
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 5: stretch and stretch and stretch, and then foot in the ground,

528
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Speaker 5: Boom gone, and it is off to defend bo Prabula

529
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 5: might be better than Drew Aller, I he me might.

530
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Speaker 5: The Penn State might have picked the wrong guy quarterback.

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Speaker 5: I don't know for sure yet, but it's possible. That

532
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 5: run game definitely scares me. I think I'm at the

533
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Speaker 5: point now in Florida State season and Bamas season where

534
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Speaker 5: I am willing to push that data point to the

535
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Speaker 5: side and say it could be an outlier because of

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Speaker 5: all of the time Florida State had to prepare for

537
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Speaker 5: that matchup. It was the first game of the year,

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Speaker 5: it was a weird rain delay, Bama still was in

539
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Speaker 5: the game, it just didn't quite go their way. Again,

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Speaker 5: I think when we look back on the season, we

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Speaker 5: might look at that game and kind of say, yeah,

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Speaker 5: that was the hiccup for Bama. But the rest of

543
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Speaker 5: their campaign's been pretty solid. The defenses Missouri has faced

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Speaker 5: this year outside of Central Arkansas, which don't really have

545
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 5: much data on them, Kansas, Louisiana, Lafayette, South Carolina, UMass.

546
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Speaker 5: The only defense in the top fifty against the run

547
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Speaker 5: on is Kansas. They're forty first, Lafayette one tenth, South

548
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 5: Carolina seventy eighth, U Mass one oh six. So again,

549
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Speaker 5: how good is Missouri's run game. They haven't faced a

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Speaker 5: team with a pulse. They faced one legit team, Lenora

551
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Speaker 5: Sellers South Carolina, who was not practicing all week and

552
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 5: they were at home. So it just I think I

553
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Speaker 5: think we need to pump the Brakes on how good

554
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Speaker 5: Missouri is now. Maybe Bama's not all hot and hot

555
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 5: to trot. It's fair they haven't really shown you their

556
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 5: best yet. But those wins at Georgia and against Vandy

557
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 5: are better than any win that Missouri has this year.

558
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Speaker 5: So I think with a tight line, I just I

559
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 5: gotta take Bama in this spot.

560
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Speaker 4: It's about time. You know, Jared and Rich but it heads.

561
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Speaker 4: It's normally me in Rich butting heads.

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Speaker 3: You know, I like this. I'm just sitting back with the.

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Speaker 5: Regulus decide the vote here. Well, I mean, you know,

564
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Speaker 5: I have to pick the game, but you can give us.

565
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Speaker 4: Some like like Rich said, you might see this in

566
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Speaker 4: Rapid Fire later in the show. You might see a

567
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Speaker 4: little bit later he just picks the total. You're right,

568
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Speaker 4: give me over, Yeah, take the easy way out. It

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Speaker 4: is Fox Sports Radios Countdown to kick Off, presented by

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Speaker 4: Bett MGM.

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Speaker 3: Let's dive into this show.

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Speaker 2: Countdown hes watch.

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Speaker 4: All right, so little Heisman landscape, if you will, if

574
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Speaker 4: you look at the odds, and we won't give you

575
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Speaker 4: like the nine hundred guys that have odds, We'll just

576
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Speaker 4: give you the top. So Oregon quarterback Dante Moore. He's

577
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Speaker 4: the leader right now on bet MGM. He's five to

578
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Speaker 4: one to win the Heisman, followed by Miami quarterback Carson

579
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Speaker 4: went Carson Beck is six to one. I guess I'm

580
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 4: just conditioned to saying Wentz after Carson. You know, no, no,

581
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Speaker 4: Carson Beck.

582
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Speaker 5: Carson Wentz Verismovie, one hell of a bet.

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Speaker 3: It'll be one hell of a story too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, good eye, North Dakota State reincarnated.

585
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Speaker 3: Maybe how about eight to one?

586
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Speaker 4: My guy, Jeremiah Smith lurking the great Ohio state wide receiver.

587
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 4: Also Ty Simpson, Bama quarterback. They're both eight to one,

588
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 4: followed by John Mattier, who might be giving it a

589
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 4: go today. We'll get to that with the Oklahoma quarterback

590
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 4: against Texas broken hand, seventeen days removed from surgery. He's

591
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 4: trying to go today. He's ten to one for the Heisman.

592
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 4: So as it stacks up right now, you know, go ahead,

593
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 4: Jared Rich, feel free. I'm throwing a fastball right down

594
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 4: the middle. Go ahead and crank this thing. Who do

595
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,959
Speaker 4: you like at this stage of the season.

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Speaker 8: Well, I'll tell you this game we're about to watch

597
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 8: is going to matter a lot in Oregon and Indiana.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you have the.

599
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Speaker 8: Ducks hosting the Hoosiers, and if this goes the way

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Speaker 8: of Indiana, all of a sudden, Fernando Mendoza's name is

601
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Speaker 8: going to skyrocket up this They need one of those

602
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 8: wins where you can hang your hat on it for

603
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 8: Mendoza's Heisman race to really materialize here. And then also,

604
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Speaker 8: you know, conversely, Dante Moore, I'm not saying it seals

605
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Speaker 8: it for him, but if Oregon is a great team

606
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Speaker 8: this year and he has two top ten wins on

607
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Speaker 8: his early season report card, Dante Moore is most likely

608
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Speaker 8: going to sail toward the Heisman unless you know they're

609
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Speaker 8: winning in spite of his poor play.

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Speaker 2: Down the stretch.

611
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Speaker 8: And obviously you never can account for injuries, and you

612
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 8: hope that all these guys stay healthy. I will throw

613
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Speaker 8: in something here, though, If Indiana wins and it's not

614
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Speaker 8: necessarily the Mendoza show and all of a sudden we

615
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Speaker 8: have a little bit more of a reshuffling in the

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Speaker 8: top five of the Heisman race, that does avail a

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Speaker 8: better opportunity in my opinion, for a wide receiver like

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Speaker 8: Jeremiah Smith, who arguably is playing for the best team

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Speaker 8: in the country, potentially the best team in the country

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Speaker 8: to emerge as the favorite at some point this season

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Speaker 8: if there isn't like a surefire quarterback to point to.

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Speaker 8: But man, is this a big game for Mendoza? This

623
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Speaker 8: could really so Okay. If you're asking me, like, if

624
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Speaker 8: I had two hundred bucks and I wanted to make

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Speaker 8: a play on Heisman, like that was my unit for

626
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Speaker 8: and I was given too, I would I would put

627
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Speaker 8: one hundred on More, I'd put one hundred on Mendoza,

628
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Speaker 8: and I would say, I'm taking my five to one odds,

629
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Speaker 8: and I'm taking my what was it, fourteen to one

630
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Speaker 8: whatever it is with Mendoza, and I'm taking the average

631
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Speaker 8: of those two and I'm saying, well, I feel good

632
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Speaker 8: about one of them making a real strong case here

633
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Speaker 8: today to win the Heisman if their team has continued

634
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Speaker 8: success for the rest of the season, and I'll take

635
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Speaker 8: those reduced odds whatever they end up hovering somewhere around

636
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 8: nine to one instead of fourteen to one if I

637
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 8: put the full two hundred on Mendoza, or you.

638
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,239
Speaker 2: Know, five to one, if I put the full two

639
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Speaker 2: hundred on Dante.

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Speaker 5: More, Yeah, I think Brian not the Burster Bowl, But

641
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 5: I don't think Jeremiah Smith's gonna win it this year.

642
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 5: I don't. I think the reason that I don't think

643
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 5: he's gonna win it is because I think Ohio State's

644
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 5: defense is too good, Like can we give the heisman

645
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 5: to Ohio States defense? Like They're not gonna need Jeremiah

646
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 5: Smith to go bananas. And that is I think the

647
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Speaker 5: reason why he has a lesser chance to win this

648
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Speaker 5: not to say he can't win it, I just don't

649
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Speaker 5: think he's going to win it because of that reason.

650
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 5: Dante Moore absolutely right in the mix. Carson Beck absolutely

651
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 5: right in the mix. I mean, do I have to

652
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Speaker 5: at Maszoo Vandy this year. Like Carson Beck, I think

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Speaker 5: has a conversation for it. And yes, Dante more definitely

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Speaker 5: deserves to be in that conversation. If Indiana wins today,

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Speaker 5: Mendoza might be the favorite come Sunday morning, But if

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Speaker 5: Ty Simpson shredched today, I think he's the guy. I

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Speaker 5: really do. I think it's it's it's Simpson, it's more

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Speaker 5: it's Beck, it's Mendoza. Maybe if Indiana wins. But to me,

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Speaker 5: that's kind of where the list ends. I just don't

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Speaker 5: think Matier is gonna play enough. I don't think he's

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Speaker 5: getting Frank. I don't think he's gonna play today. I'd

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Speaker 5: be I mean, i'd be shocked if he plays the

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Speaker 5: whole game today. I don't know how he's playing today.

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Speaker 5: But that's kind of where I feel like the list is.

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Speaker 5: You know I'm at right now, I've got four quarterbacks

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Speaker 5: on my list.

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Speaker 4: I just think the road for Oklahoma is so difficult.

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Speaker 4: It's obviously tied to your win loss record. I think

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Speaker 4: way it goes with the Heisman voting. I just don't

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Speaker 5: When we're thinking about more to Dylan, Gabriel didn't win

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Speaker 5: another thing that's like, WHOA, how did that happen?

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Speaker 4: Well, Dante Moore has been special so far, and uh,

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Speaker 4: I get why he's the leader in the clubhouse right now.

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Speaker 4: The thing with Carson Beck he's been really good, but man,

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Speaker 4: like what you're saying with Jeremiah Smith, where the rock

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Speaker 4: it's not like he's been prolific or something like that.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know that he's gonna win it. I

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Speaker 4: still think the one thing with Jeremiah Smith that you

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Speaker 4: he's the best player in college football. So if he

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Speaker 4: he's absolutely still alive to win this thing. All Right,

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Speaker 2: What do you like?

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, this is This is about as juicy as

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Speaker 5: it Yes, guys, this might be one of the juiciest

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Speaker 5: you a ball state money line at Western Michigan. They

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Speaker 5: are a nine and a half point underdog. This money

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Speaker 5: line is BLUs two sixty. I think maction will be

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Speaker 5: the term of the day here. This game was a

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Speaker 5: very competitive. Last year, ball State had the lead in

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Speaker 5: the fourth quarter, ended up losing by a field goal.

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Speaker 5: This year, the Cardinals more of a defensive team. They

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Speaker 5: shut out Ohio in the second half. Last week they

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Speaker 5: won a low scoring game. Western Michigan hasn't impressed me

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Speaker 5: despite a win over Toledle, which was really funky. Neither

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Speaker 5: game a neither team game more than three hundred yards.

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Speaker 5: In that game. They also beat you Mass, but everyone.

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Speaker 2: Beats you Mass.

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Speaker 5: Ball State has the more experienced quarterback in this game,

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Speaker 5: Kyle Kelly. They have some momentum after last week low

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Speaker 5: to me. I think the Cards spring the upset maction.

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Speaker 5: I would also bet this straight up. Ball State plus

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Speaker 5: nine and a half before the parlay will give you

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Speaker 8: We opened the show talking about al fam mccona, Missouri

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Speaker 8: and SEC matchup that could really topple the tide, the

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Speaker 8: bully's pullying or the pulley's getting bullied. I like Missouri

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Speaker 8: the more we look at this, so I'm gonna take

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Speaker 8: Missouri on the money line plus one forty five added

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Speaker 8: to the parlay.

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Speaker 2: They're dogged by three and a half at home.

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Speaker 8: They can control this game if a mod Hardy does

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Speaker 8: a mod Hardy stop. And Alabama is specific specifically capable

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Speaker 8: of being plucked on the run game and we've seen

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Speaker 8: him many times already.

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Speaker 2: They're not as solid upfront.

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Speaker 8: Foundational pieces on the defense have not played as well

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Speaker 8: as they should in that front seven. So give me

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Speaker 8: Missouri with the upset posting the crimson time.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you're gonna think someone kidnapped me, all right, but

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Speaker 4: hear me out over here.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna take a notre dame under all right, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Gonna go with wide receiver Jordan facehim, who's good. I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna take under seventy three and a half receiving yards

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Speaker 4: today against NC State. Just a lot of mouths to feed,

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Speaker 4: you know, Like if you think about prop bets, it's

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Speaker 4: not just the opposing team that's the enemy.

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Speaker 3: It's your own teammates that are the enemy.

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Speaker 4: And when you've got guys like Malachi Fields, Eli Rariden,

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Speaker 4: the one two running back combot, it's a lot of

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Speaker 4: my to feed unless they're you know, rack it up

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Speaker 4: six hundred yards. I don't love Jordan Faison's chances to

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Speaker 4: get over seventy three and a half. Now the last

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Speaker 4: three games he's gone over this number comfortably. But again,

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Speaker 4: I just think there are a lot of miles to feed.

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Speaker 4: Notre Dame is a huge favorite. If they're up big,

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Speaker 4: I don't think they're gonna chuck it around in the

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Speaker 4: third like fourth quarters. Faison's real shifty, he's quick, but

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Speaker 4: I think seventy three and a half it's a big number.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the under.

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Speaker 5: There plus nineteen thirty six after a boo, it's almost

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Speaker 5: twenty to one.

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Speaker 4: Guys, whooh had goosey right there? No doubt looking forward

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Speaker 4: to that coming up next? What we see a Bud

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Speaker 4: Crawford impression? Oh what is going on? Happy Saturday football

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Speaker 4: Let me try again. Happy happy ball day.

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Speaker 3: Huh?

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Speaker 4: We got ball all day today. It's gonna be a

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Speaker 4: beautiful Saturday. Will this team be able to do its

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Speaker 4: impression of boxer? Bud Cross offered weve details in just

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Speaker 4: on the parlay platter. How about almost twenty to one? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: how do I set this out?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 5: And I don't even like Rich's pick, but I've got

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Speaker 5: a bet it anyway, because it's.

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Speaker 5: Today right right there?

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Speaker 2: You go? Yeah, absolutely, alright, we got today here you go.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely might need that leg of the parlay to cash it. Okay,

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Speaker 4: So we got Indiana against Oregon. Oregon now a seven

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Speaker 4: point favorite. It is ticked down just a little bit. Also,

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Speaker 4: the total is ticked down a little bit as well.

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Speaker 4: Now it's fifty three and a half, so a couple

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Speaker 4: of points from last night.

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Speaker 3: It's ticked down.

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Speaker 4: The first question I have is, just, you know, like

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Speaker 4: a broad view, can Indiana punch up a couple of

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Speaker 4: weight classes?

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Speaker 2: Right? Like?

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Speaker 4: Do you remember the fight is about a month ago

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Speaker 4: now roughly where Bud Crawford, he beat Canelo Alvarez. Bud

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Speaker 4: Crawford went up two weight classes and took down Canelo Alvarez,

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Speaker 4: who is like boxing royalty.

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Speaker 3: It takes a freak.

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Speaker 4: And I mean that as a compliment to be able

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Speaker 4: to do something like that that is not easy.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't happen.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's exactly what Indiana is trying to

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Speaker 4: do today to take down a team like Oregon on

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Speaker 4: Indiana was punching up a couple of weight classes, they

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Speaker 4: the first part of this whole thing is, can I

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Speaker 4: no mistake, That's exactly what they're trying to do today

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Speaker 4: and not just hanging around. Win, win the game, forget

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Speaker 4: about covering the spread. Win the game against the Ducks.

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Speaker 4: I just don't think they have enough to do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I here's here's the two ways to

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Speaker 2: look at this.

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Speaker 8: If we're going to look at it, more glass half

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Speaker 8: full for either side. You like on the side of

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Speaker 8: the Ducks. I mean that game against Penn State was survival.

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Speaker 8: They went on the road, they went into a hornet's nest,

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Speaker 8: obviously a white out for the Penn State Nitney Allions

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Speaker 8: in Happy Valley, and they ruined their party. But it

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Speaker 8: took everything they had. That was an absolute war to

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Speaker 8: get it done. Conversely, you look at Indiana and you say, well,

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Speaker 8: last we saw them, they won a pitcher's duel against Iowa.

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Speaker 8: You know, Kinnick Stadium has hosted some disastrous moments for

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Speaker 8: the Hoosiers survived that one twenty to fifteen, you know,

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Speaker 2: When they're hosting you.

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Speaker 8: So you look at both of these teams in their

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Speaker 8: and they can.

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Speaker 2: Still get it done.

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Speaker 8: My question is, today we're expecting explosiveness from Dante more,

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Speaker 8: today we're expecting explosiveness from Fernando Mendoza. But what happens

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Speaker 8: if this game gets a little ugly? What happens if

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Speaker 8: this game does get a little hard, and oftentimes games

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Speaker 8: we build up they don't live up to the shootout

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Speaker 8: that we all hope they will. It's not going to

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Speaker 8: be eighty points score today. Sometimes with those prize fights

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Speaker 8: like you just mentioned Crawford Canelo, it could be a

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Speaker 8: trying to find the ins and the outs and you know,

867
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 8: protect themselves a little bit, maybe not take too many

868
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 8: big shots because you don't want to make the the

869
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 8: play that turns into the turnover that turns the.

870
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: Tide for a half.

871
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 8: So who's going to win the uglier game, who's more capable?

872
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 8: Maleen is still more toward the Oregon Ducks because of

873
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 8: what you led with, Brian, which is that the Indiana

874
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 8: Hoosiers are fighting above their weight class here. But as

875
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 8: you mentioned, Crawford was able to knock off Canelo. We

876
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 8: have seen it before, so this is a hairy spot

877
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 8: for the Oregon Ducks.

878
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

879
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 5: The first part of this handicap that and I want

880
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 5: to mention is teams travel big ten teams traveling across

881
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 5: the Rockies. Right since we've had this expansion, the great

882
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 5: Western push with the Big ten, twelve, and twenty one

883
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 5: straight up, they have not done well. Again, a lot

884
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 5: of that is circumstantial. A lot of these teams are

885
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 5: you know, bad teams traveling out west, so you know,

886
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 5: you don't expect them to win. This is not one

887
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 5: of those scenarios. Obviously, Indiana's legit. The other part of

888
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 5: this handicap that you have to ask yourself is how

889
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 5: solid are the really good statistics that both of these

890
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 5: teams have put up. Indiana has bludgeoned bad teams, just

891
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 5: crush them like and they have run up the score

892
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 5: when they've had advantages, So their elite statistical categories, you

893
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 5: have to be like, eh, how good are they? Same

894
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 5: thing with Oregon. They've got a top ten passing defense,

895
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 5: but they haven't faced the top eighty passing offense like

896
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 5: Penn State. When they finally woke up in the second half.

897
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 5: Really it was the fourth quarter. I mean it was

898
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 5: slice and dice that Oregon defense, but they just didn't

899
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 5: do it. They didn't stretch Oregon vertically. For the first

900
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 5: three quarters. They were just kind of, you know, playing

901
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 5: with their food a little bit and then all of

902
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 5: a sudden, they're like, oh crap, we're down two scores.

903
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 5: We got to actually throw the ball downfield. And then

904
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 5: it was bing bang, boom, touchdown, touchdown. Penn State tied

905
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 5: the game and went in the overtime, and obviously you

906
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 5: know what happened after that. So that's where I'm struggling

907
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,479
Speaker 5: to wrap my head around this matchup. How good both

908
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 5: of these teams, their statistical profiles are both elite, But

909
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 5: how elite are they on both sides of the ball.

910
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 5: I think, if I had to guess, I think Oregon's

911
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 5: defense is not as buttoned up in the back as

912
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 5: we think it is, because again, I think that's the

913
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 5: one thing. First of all, if you're behind a lot,

914
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 5: it just it makes it really hard. I think Indiana

915
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 5: will have some success throwing the ball on this Oregon secondary.

916
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 5: The question is can they stop the run? Because when

917
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 5: I look at Indiana's defense, here's their profile up front,

918
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 5: their nose tackle Tyrek Tucker six foot, three hundred pounds,

919
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 5: they're three tech Joseo Wheeler six three two ninety eight

920
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 5: like they're crafty, but those are nose tackles in college

921
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 5: football in the Big Ten, you're not even three hundred pounds. Like,

922
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 5: I do think Oregon might be able to lean on

923
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 5: Indiana a little bit and make them very kind of

924
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 5: you know, almost when you're playing your big brother in basketball,

925
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 5: like he can just kind of box you down and

926
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 5: you know, get an easy layup every time because he's bigger,

927
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 5: an he's stronger than you. So that's where I'm a

928
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 5: little bit concerned for Indiana. But I do think Oregon's

929
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 5: secondary is gettable.

930
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's sort of like the we could do a

931
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 4: whole Mike Tyson's punch Out breakdown of IU where a

932
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 4: lot of the stats that they've accumulated that they've racked up,

933
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 4: like Jared you're talking about, that's like facing glass Joe

934
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 4: when they beat Indiana State seventy three to nothing, and

935
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 4: the stats that they accumulated in that game were staggering.

936
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 3: It was insane what they did.

937
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 4: That's class Joe and Mike Tyson's punch out, which is

938
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 4: for those that are you know, not initiated as the

939
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 4: first opponent, who's the weakest one, and then you get

940
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 4: a little bit more like okay, when they faced Old Dominion,

941
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 4: that'd be kind of like a piston Honda.

942
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 3: You know, maybe like alohing tough this year.

943
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 4: They're pretty good, but they're not elite, you know, so

944
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 4: maybe like a bald ball, you know, give you problems,

945
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 4: Maybe something like that.

946
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 5: You gotta go with the right jab first, on the

947
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 5: on the ball, on the bull, left jab the second

948
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 5: time you face.

949
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 4: Him, Yet you go up or cut when he's charging you.

950
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 4: Not not smart. You gotta go gut, you gotta go, stomach,

951
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 4: gotta go otherwise.

952
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, not gonna go well pants. But it's not Oregon.

953
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 4: Wait when you look at all these teams, not Oregon,

954
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 4: And uh, that's what I worry about. I hate to

955
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,959
Speaker 4: be so simplistic with the way I handicap a game,

956
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 4: but I've got nightmares of them trying to step up

957
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 4: in weight class. Last year didn't go well at all.

958
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 4: This is a major step up in weight class, and

959
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 4: that's what I think. Defensively, like, their front seven is

960
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 4: pretty good, but it's like, what are you take it

961
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 4: away from Oregon's offense. I'm not convinced they're gonna do

962
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 4: great against the rush. If you're not doing great against

963
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 4: the rush, it's like, what are you doing great against?

964
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 4: You gotta limit the damage somehow, you gotta take something away.

965
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 4: I don't know that I use taking anything away from

966
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 4: Oregon offense today, and then it becomes a matter of

967
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 4: can you match points if the defense isn't holding up

968
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 4: its end of the bargain and again punching up.

969
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 3: In weight class on the road. That's a lot to ask.

970
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 4: For an IU team that's just not nearly as talented

971
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 4: top to bottom. They're not on the same level as Oregon.

972
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, in terms of the actual raw talent under the

973
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 8: roof in the facility, working out training alongside each other Indiana,

974
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 8: they're not Oregon. Yeah, And Oregon has become a powerhouse

975
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 8: for so many reasons. And one day we could have

976
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 8: a big old camp out and talk about NIL and

977
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 8: what Oregon may look like here in the coming years,

978
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 8: because I think they're building a monster out there. They

979
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 8: will continue to vacuum up all of the West Coast recruits.

980
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 8: It's going to be the place, and there's a lot

981
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 8: of reason behind it. A lot has to do with

982
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 8: money and the new NIL era that we're we've entered

983
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 8: and we're going to continue traversing down. But getting back

984
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 8: to this game specifically, Yeah, there's a talent disparity However,

985
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 8: when there's a talent disparity, you you always wish that

986
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 8: there's an offense that can affect a team's aggressiveness in

987
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 8: an advantageous way. And that's exactly what the Hoosiers have.

988
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 8: This fast paced, tempo, rpo, highly variable offense where when

989
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 8: you have a talent enough quarterback and they do Fernando

990
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 8: Mendoza has been tested and is a talented quarterback at

991
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 8: the helm, you can make a team pay based off

992
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 8: you know how good their athletes are and how aggressive

993
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 8: their athletes are, and how badly they want to stop

994
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 8: the play when you are putting them in a bind

995
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 8: where there's no good answers to a well designed play

996
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 8: as long as it's executed perfectly, well, then it's like

997
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 8: facing the Army option. It's like facing you know, one

998
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 8: of these military schools. If they have enough athletes on

999
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 8: the field, you're gonna have a real long, hard day.

1000
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 8: And that's kind of what the Hoosiers offense is like.

1001
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 8: It feels almost like a cheek code when it's really going.

1002
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 8: And so yeah, I agree with your your whole consensus

1003
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 8: about this game. But Indiana has that lurking key piece

1004
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 8: that is missing from the conversation. Offensively, they can hang

1005
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 8: with anyone because they have an offense that puts you

1006
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 8: in a bad position every single play to stop them.

1007
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll give you the I'll give you the recipe

1008
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 5: the path for Indiana here. So I do think their

1009
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 5: offensive line might get overwhelmed at times by this Oregon

1010
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 5: pass rush.

1011
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 2: We mentioned him a.

1012
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 5: Couple of weeks ago. The Dju's brother, Matteo Uyung Lala

1013
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 5: is their best pass rusher.

1014
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 2: He's talent.

1015
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 5: He's a little undersized, but he's very talented, very craft

1016
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:49,919
Speaker 5: He's got a lot of different moves.

1017
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 3: Do we call him m you by the way, Sure,

1018
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 3: you can.

1019
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 5: Call him whatever you want, but I'm gonna go because

1020
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 5: I've spent years now trying to perfect this guy's name.

1021
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 5: After he was the quarter back of many teams. I

1022
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 5: feel like he's played quarterback. I think it was Clemson,

1023
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 5: Florida State, and Oregon State. He's been at three different schools. Yeah,

1024
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 5: Ouhyung de La lay, I can say it. I've practiced

1025
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 5: very very hard in my spare time and in the

1026
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 5: interior of the Oregon d line bear Alexander, Mario Washington,

1027
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 5: those guys are best and I didn't love what I

1028
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 5: saw on the Northwestern tape, and I was like, oh,

1029
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 5: maybe Penn State can get these guys. And then they

1030
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 5: just raised their level against Penn State.

1031
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 2: Right.

1032
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 5: I think they were kind of sleepwalking through that Northwestern game,

1033
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 5: and the interior of that defensive line really played well

1034
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 5: against Penn State. Here is the path, though. Indiana loves

1035
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 5: to run a lot of RPOs, a lot of quick

1036
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 5: free access throws. If Mendoza is getting the ball out

1037
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 5: quick and he has a very lightning quick delivery, two

1038
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 5: point six seconds time to throw. He was two point

1039
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 5: two in the blowout against Illinois. I mean it was

1040
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 5: one two to three ball out. That mitigates the pass

1041
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 5: rush just a bit, and so you try not to

1042
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,959
Speaker 5: attack the middle. Don't just run it up the gut

1043
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 5: with Roman Heemby, he was alid back, But don't just

1044
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 5: slam them into that middle of the defensive line because

1045
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 5: your offensive line is a little bit undersized, especially on

1046
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 5: the right side. RPO game, quick free access routes. Ye

1047
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 5: get the rhythm of the offense going, get into second

1048
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:19,240
Speaker 5: and five, third and two, and just make Oregon feel

1049
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 5: like they're kind of on the back foot where they're

1050
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 5: always like their defense is always backing up a few

1051
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 5: yards on every play, and if you can get that

1052
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 5: momentum rolling, I think that is the path for Indiana.

1053
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 5: You try to keep the ball away from that Oregon

1054
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 5: offense that's gonna want to play bully ball, and try

1055
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 5: to take advantage of that very undersized Indiana defensive line,

1056
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 5: and you just let Mendoza get into a rhythm and

1057
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 5: get that delivery going. Listen, they've got We've seen these

1058
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 5: Indiana receivers play really well, Sarah. You remember him from

1059
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 5: last year, Alpha X type six to two to twenty.

1060
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 5: You've got Williams, the Clemson transfer, another big body at

1061
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 5: six to three, and I really like the Omar Cooper kid.

1062
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 5: He's kind of a z eighteen yards per catch this

1063
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 5: year at six foot two hundre pounds. So you've got

1064
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 5: some weapons on the outside that can make Oregon sweat

1065
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 5: a little bit. We don't love the Oregon secondary, but

1066
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 5: you've got to put pressure on him. The key is

1067
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 5: is Dan Lanning gonna go press coverage and take away

1068
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 5: all of those easy access throws at the line of scrimmage.

1069
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 5: If that's the case, then you've got to take shots

1070
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 5: down the field and if you're Kurt Signetty, you've got

1071
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 5: to have the gumption to be able to take some

1072
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 5: of those deep verticals. So it's a it is an

1073
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 5: interesting chess match, but I do see a path for

1074
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 5: Indiana's offense to have success.

1075
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 3: That's a good breakdown.

1076
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 4: I'll say this real fast is I want to see

1077
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 4: IU play the way Kurt Signetti talks. You know, because

1078
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 4: like last year, going into the playoff game against Notre Dame,

1079
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 4: it was all the sound bites, it's I win, Google me.

1080
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 4: You know, it's like, okay, all right, this guy, we're

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00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 4: not backing down from anybody. And then it's the fourth

1082
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 4: quarter and they're punting. Yeah, It's like, what what do

1083
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 4: you You're basically raising the white flag. Where's all this

1084
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 4: brash like we don't back down, like google me, I win.

1085
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 4: Where's that on the field. I want to see that

1086
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 4: on the field today for Indiana. Otherwise I don't think

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00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 4: they have a chance. But I love what you broke

1088
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,760
Speaker 4: down right there, And if there are some deep shots

1089
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 4: to be taken, I don't want them to be like,

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00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 4: you know what, let's not be too risky. I want

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00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 4: them to just let it all hang out today and

1092
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 4: they've shown a tendency when they're punching up to not

1093
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 4: do that. I think that's their identity. I think that's

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00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 4: who they are, that's who they're led by. I want

1095
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:23,879
Speaker 4: to see them play like that. I want to see

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Speaker 4: them go about it like strategically like that. All right,

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Speaker 4: so we're going quick. I mean, we could have a

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00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 4: like Dittohead from Slayer playing in the background, like speed

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Speaker 2: You love it? Okay?

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Speaker 4: Okay, but give me quick, just a couple of real

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00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 4: quick thoughts here, because in the SEC man, there are

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00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 4: some great games. We're not even talking about Bama Miszoo,

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00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 4: which we talked about in the first hour. We're not

1130
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,439
Speaker 4: even talking about Oklahoma Texas, which we'll get to next hour.

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00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 4: We've got four other games that are really intriguing. How

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00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 4: about Florida at number five, Texas A and M A

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00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 4: and M. They're just kind of slowing the pace down.

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00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 4: You know, you think about that run and gun game

1135
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 4: against Notre Dame crazy points. You know, yards go Lore.

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00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 4: They're really leaning on their defense more. You saw that

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00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 4: last week against Mississippi State. What do you think about Florida, Texas,

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00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 4: A and M they're rich.

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00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 8: Florida snapped that three game losing streak with a win

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00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 8: over Texas.

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00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 2: The key to.

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00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 8: Protecting or excuse me, the key to that victory was

1144
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 8: protecting Dj Lagway, which they did a nice job. He

1145
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 8: got the ball long enough to distribute it to guys

1146
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 8: who can really make you pay on the outside. And

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00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 8: then you look at the other side of this matchup.

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00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 8: This is an elite matchup defensively, especially for a Florida

1149
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 8: Gators offense that struggled throughout the season. And that's a

1150
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 8: really good defensive line. They're facing the third highest sack

1151
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 8: rate in the country. I think the deciding factor is

1152
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 8: going to be these two defenses doing what they do

1153
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 8: against two talented offenses, and and it's gonna be a

1154
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 8: QB duel. We're gonna find out who's better between Marcel Reid,

1155
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 8: who's got this explosive arm, and DJ Lagway, who's finally

1156
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 8: proven this season that he can get it done. I

1157
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 8: think it comes down to the QB play in this one.

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00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, underrated game, honestly, Yeah, you're seeing it off the

1159
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 5: off the hook, now off the seven and a half,

1160
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 5: now down to seven. So Florida's getting a little love.

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00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 5: These teams are kind of similar, right, Like, I honestly

1162
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 5: think their their profiles are kind of similar. Florida's got

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00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 5: three losses, but only one conference loss. Like they are

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00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 5: still in the mix to make some noise in the SEC.

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00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 5: I like, finally, finally Florida ran and against Texas, are

1166
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 5: we gonna get that same commitment to the run. This week,

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Speaker 5: we've watched teams running on A and M. This year,

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01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 5: we've seen Notre Dame have some success. The Gators obviously

1169
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 5: vulnerable with Lagway's health and his turnover tendencies. Marcel Reid though,

1170
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Speaker 5: like I just I feel I do, like to say, Anthony,

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Speaker 5: I actually picked them to be in the COLLEGEA Ball

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01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 5: Playoff before the season started. Their defense is improved. I

1173
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 5: love Tori and York, their middle linebackers. Instinctual. I just

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01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 5: I don't know, I feel like Florida's live in this game.

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Speaker 4: I do. Okay, all right, let's pick up the tempo here, guys,

1176
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 4: it's gonna be like the coach on the side, like.

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Speaker 3: Faster, faster you right, Like all right, we guys. Georgia

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01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 3: at Auburn. Georgia now favored by four.

1179
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 4: I think Georgia matches up really well with Auburn if

1180
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 4: you think defensively, george is good against the rush, not

1181
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 4: that great against the pass. Auburn they want to run it,

1182
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 4: they're not great throwing it. So I think this sets

1183
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 4: up well for the Dogs just in terms of the matchup.

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01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 8: All right, So the Tigers, they are coming off of

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01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 8: buye and Auburn now hosts really their first marquee opponent

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01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 8: at home. It's it's the I haven't really been tested

1187
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 8: as much as Georgia's so far this season, so I'm

1188
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 8: curious how they respond. But at least they get them

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01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 8: at their place. Here's what they'll say about this matchup

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01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 8: that people aren't paying attention to, but I always do.

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01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 8: The Auburn Tigers have the better offensive line in better

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01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 8: defensive line, and that could factor, especially in a game

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01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 8: with the pomp and circumstance of having the tenth ranked

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01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 8: team a conference team come into your place and try

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Speaker 8: to beat you up.

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01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 2: They'll be able to control the game better than Georgia

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01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 2: will be able to. So look out.

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Speaker 8: If the Tigers have an early lead, Georgia could be

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01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 8: in trouble rock fight.

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01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 5: Honestly, Georgia's old lines, banged up Freeling and Green are

1201
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 5: both questionable. We'll see if they play. Auburn's got some

1202
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 5: beef upfront defensively, I mean, go look at the size

1203
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 5: and weights of those Auburn front four. I think Kirby

1204
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,919
Speaker 5: smart this is a very easy Auburn offense to game

1205
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 5: plan against. They run our PO, they'll pull it and

1206
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 5: they'll try to hit Cam Coleman on a deep shot. Well,

1207
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 5: you can take away a deep shot with one receiver

1208
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 5: by just playing bracket coverage, and then you put an

1209
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 5: extra shafety in the box and you force Jackson Arnold

1210
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 5: to pull it on the RPO and then he's kind

1211
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 5: of a sitting duck back there. So I think this

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Speaker 5: feels like a twenty to seventeen kind of game, But

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Speaker 5: I don't know who wins.

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Speaker 4: Interesting. Okay, how about another one? South Carolina at number eleven.

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01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 4: LSU LSU favored.

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01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 2: By nine and a half.

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01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 4: I like LSU's defense a lot. I dislike LSU's offense

1218
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 4: a lot. They were off last week. We'll see if

1219
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 4: they fixed anything. But man, nine and a half points

1220
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 4: is a lot when you've got a really sketchy offense

1221
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 4: like LSU does. At some point, South Carolina is gonna

1222
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 4: kick it into gear.

1223
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Speaker 3: Do you not think so?

1224
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 4: Like they have so much firepower as a live dog.

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01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 4: I don't know that they win, but man, covering nine

1226
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 4: and a half, you gotta think the game Cocks are live.

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Speaker 3: As far as that.

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Speaker 2: Goes, I one hundred percent agree.

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01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 8: Wearing complete alignment, Lenoris Sellers perts on the scene last year.

1230
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 8: A lot of Heisman buzz around his name in the preseason.

1231
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,439
Speaker 8: Has not lived up to it this year because he's

1232
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 8: been less efficient overall, especially in the run game.

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01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 2: They're trying to.

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01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 8: Do a lot more with his arm this year, and

1235
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 8: they've been less efficient in the run game as a result. LSU,

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01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 8: though nothing they've done this season has wowed me. I've

1237
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 8: literally not said wow, did you see LSU last night

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01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 8: or yesterday? All season long? So they're gettable. Do I

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01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 8: think the game Cocks win this game?

1240
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 2: No? But do I think they cover up that spread? Yeah?

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01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 8: I like South Carolina If we're if we're looking at

1242
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 8: the number, I think I think getting nine and a

1243
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 8: half here is a good spot.

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01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 5: For them night Game and Death Valley. That's why the

1245
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 5: spread is what it is. I think, based on the

1246
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 5: people who I talk to, there are very few environments

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01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 5: that get an extra point for home field advantage. LSU

1248
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 5: Night Game is one of them, So I think that's

1249
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 5: why the spread is a little bit inflated. Hate the

1250
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 5: numbers for LSU's offense. They can't run it, they're not

1251
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 5: great blocking. Nus Meyer think is banged up. We'll probably

1252
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 5: hear something after the season that he needs surgery on

1253
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 5: some random body part. He just looks like he's kind

1254
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 5: of a walking wounded right now. Same thing with Sellers,

1255
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 5: like that's why he's kind of been inefficient this year.

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01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 5: He's been banged up. I think that's why he's been

1257
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 5: hesitant to run it. Tough game. I honestly don't have

1258
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 5: a good feel for this one. I think I agree

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01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 5: with your take that the spreads a little bit inflated,

1260
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 5: But weird things happen in Death Valley at night, and

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01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be shocked if it's snowballs. LSU is able

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01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 5: to put some distance between themselves and Cocky.

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01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 3: Okay, one more.

1264
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 4: Here we got Arkansas taking on Tennessee. Tennessee now favored

1265
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 4: by ten and a half. There's been some Arkansas money.

1266
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 4: How about some Razorbacks money here? As Bobby Petrino is

1267
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 4: the man in charge right now, is the interim head coach.

1268
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 4: I just look for Arkansas's offense to get back on track.

1269
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 4: Tennessee's defense sucks. I think it's gonna be a points

1270
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 4: fest over here. It's ticked down to sixty eight and

1271
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 4: a half. I realize it's still sixty eight and a half.

1272
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 4: But Taylor Green, I don't know what happened against No

1273
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 4: Notre Dame. Like my Irish a couple of weeks ago,

1274
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 4: they were outstanding defensively. I look for Arkansas's offense to

1275
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 4: absolutely get back on track because Tennessee I think they'd

1276
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 4: have a hard time slowing down me, Jared and Rich.

1277
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,439
Speaker 4: They are not good defensively at all.

1278
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:16,439
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1279
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, the three horsemen of the apocalypse in that backfield.

1280
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 2: No Tailing Green. Everything he said about him is correct.

1281
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 8: I got to watch a lot of Tailing Green when

1282
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 8: he was in the Mountain West calling football games, and

1283
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 8: now he's doing special things still at a higher level

1284
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 8: of play.

1285
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 2: You mentioned Tennessee's defense.

1286
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 8: If you look at advanced analytics, they're one hundred and

1287
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 8: thirteenth in rush success rate. They're one hundred and thirty

1288
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 8: first nationally in defensive finishing drives, which is a key

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01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 8: fundamental stat stopping teams getting into the red zone and

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01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 8: then converting. They are bad, bad, bad bad Arkansas very

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01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 8: talented dual threat quarterback.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's a lot of points.

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01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 8: Again, same way I feel about Carolina or South Carolina

1294
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 8: we just spoke about. Arkansas is in a similar spot.

1295
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 8: It's just too many. It's too many. Now, if you're

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01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 8: looking at the total, that might be too many for me,

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01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 8: but I also think it's too many points for Tennessee

1298
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 8: to cover up here today.

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01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, the storyline in this game is the is the

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01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:26,439
Speaker 5: firing of Pittman and they hire Patrino as the interim right.

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01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 5: They promote him from the offensive coordinator spot to the

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01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 5: interim head coaching spot. And the first order of business

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01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 5: for Bobby Patrino fired defensive coordinator Travis Williams, fired co

1304
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 5: defensive coordinator Marcus Woodson, fired defensive line coach Deek Adams.

1305
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 5: Then he hired Jay Hayes, who is a longtime NFL

1306
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 5: defensive line coach, most recently coaching in the UFL. So defensively,

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01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 5: good luck Tennessee's offense. If you blink you miss their

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01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 5: next play. They have one of the fastest tempos in

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01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 5: the country, the fastest in the SEC. I agree, Brian.

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01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 5: I was very disappointed with Tayley Green's performance against Under Dame,

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01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 5: and we had the over on his passing yards prop

1312
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 5: and it was just it was it was awful. I thought,

1313
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 5: even the game script, hey, they're they're behind, they're gonna

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01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 5: throw a throw throw. Still couldn't get over the passing

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01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 5: yards prop. This total is high, right. If it's high,

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01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 5: it's high for a reason.

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01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 2: I think.

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01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 5: If you're betting the under in this game, good luck.

1319
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 5: I bet the over at sixty eight and a half.

1320
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 2: I think ten.

1321
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 5: I think this number right. Usually you get a number

1322
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 5: move right. It's like the fire head coaching boost, like, oh,

1323
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 5: this team's going to be motivated after they fired their

1324
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 5: head coach. I think in college football it's actually in

1325
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 5: the opposite because players are like, where am I going next?

1326
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 5: Then they're already mentally checked out, whereas in the NFL

1327
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 5: they're professionals. They're like, am I getting cut? Am I

1328
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 5: getting fired? In college? It might actually work in the

1329
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 5: other direction. So I don't agree with the line move here.

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01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 5: I'd say Tennessee and the overs to play.

1331
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, interesting stuff right there. And it's funny just to

1332
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 4: give you a gauge of how much scoring there might

1333
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 4: be in this game. Just look at the totals, you know,

1334
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 4: not just the game, but the first quarter, first half,

1335
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 4: first quarter total fourteen and a half. Like, if you're

1336
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 4: on the over, we gotta you gotta clear that hook,

1337
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 4: and they might easily get there. I wouldn't be surprised

1338
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 4: at all if the overhits in the first quarter.

1339
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 3: These teams are.

1340
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 4: Just go, go, go go. First half total is thirty

1341
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 4: four and a half.

1342
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 3: That's high, yeah, high, and the game sixty eight and

1343
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 3: a half. I just man, good luck with.

1344
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 5: Thirty five all at halftime. No one's going to be like, oh,

1345
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,719
Speaker 5: it was high. Oh that's why it was high, All.

1346
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it's gotta be in the fifties combined.

1347
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 5: Half arktsall give up against Notre Dame.

1348
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 3: What was that fifty six?

1349
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 2: Oh? My who? Not a lot of defense being played

1350
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 2: today in this one?

1351
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 3: No, No, okay, we shifted to the Big Ten.

1352
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 4: How about Michigan at USC sc a two and a

1353
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 4: half point home favorite. Here, I just listen, man, I

1354
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 4: know Michigan's traveling far, I get it. But in USC

1355
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 4: might easily win this game. I shouldn't say easily. They

1356
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 4: might win this game, but their defense sucks. I feel

1357
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:03,639
Speaker 4: horrible about backing the Trojans with the stinky defense against

1358
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 4: the team like Michigan. They can play smash mouth. Bryce

1359
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 4: Underwood can do his thing through the air. There's not

1360
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 4: a whole lot of resistance from the Trojans and Justice Haines.

1361
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 4: How about this freaking guy five one hundred yard games.

1362
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:19,839
Speaker 4: He's five for five getting to one hundred yards this season.

1363
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 4: So that's what SE's defense is up against. What do

1364
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 4: you think about this one, Rich.

1365
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 8: I think what you just said about USC when again

1366
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 8: you dive into the stats or just use your eyes

1367
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 8: watch some of these games. Their defense is just so bad.

1368
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,600
Speaker 8: They are so bad, and specifically bad against some of

1369
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 8: the things that Michigan gets to in their run game.

1370
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 8: And so this is going to be one of those

1371
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:47,679
Speaker 8: matchups that favors maybe the over in this point total,

1372
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 8: we can get back to that, but just in terms

1373
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 8: of travel and the Big Ten and what I witnessed

1374
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 8: in person last weekend. You watch a Penn State game

1375
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 8: who's coming off of an emotional weekend against Oregon. They

1376
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 8: go all the way out to Los Angeles and they

1377
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,719
Speaker 8: play in the Rose Bowl. And it wasn't a sleepy

1378
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 8: Rose Bowl situation. There were a lot of Penn State

1379
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 8: fans who showed up. I think they were expecting what

1380
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 8: I was expecting. And the crew I was with, you

1381
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 8: know that there was going to be a big bounce back,

1382
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:20,759
Speaker 8: a huge coming out party in conference play against UCLA

1383
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:24,759
Speaker 8: who's been struggling, And the opposite happened so quite frankly,

1384
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 8: almost like a bowl game vibe, where there were a

1385
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 8: bunch of people packed into the lower bowl of the

1386
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 8: Rose Bowl.

1387
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:33,480
Speaker 2: It benefited UCLA.

1388
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 8: They rode off of the collective energy in the stadium

1389
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,480
Speaker 8: and after making a firing heat head coach an offensive

1390
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 8: coordinator rode that wave to a victory. USC even though

1391
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 8: they're struggling, they're hosting a team that's crossing the nation

1392
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:53,799
Speaker 8: and that is really difficult to do these college athletes,

1393
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 8: they're not used to it. It's a new thing in

1394
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 8: the Big Ten, not a lot of experience so far

1395
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 8: with these types of trips, So this could be a

1396
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 8: spot where if you like USC, this.

1397
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 2: May be a game to take them. I don't love

1398
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 2: this one.

1399
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 8: This game in general feels like a stayoff game for

1400
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 8: all of that volatility. But if you're trying to find

1401
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 8: a reason to fall in love with us, see I

1402
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 8: literally watched this happen with Penn State on the road

1403
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 8: against UCLA seven days ago.

1404
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:26,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we mentioned it in the Indiana Oregon

1405
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 5: preview YEP twelve and twenty one. That's big ten teams

1406
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 5: crossing the Rockies. They have struggled straight up. I think

1407
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 5: the hard part of this game, the handicap is the

1408
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 5: Bryce Underwood dilemma. They are very much a different offense

1409
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 5: on the road. At home they're willing to let him

1410
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 5: rip a little bit. Or on the road. You watch

1411
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 5: that game at Oklahoma and it just it was like,

1412
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,759
Speaker 5: all right, don't make the big mistake. Bryce. You're a freshman,

1413
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 5: and I know Norman is a little bit of a

1414
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 5: different vibe than at the Coliseum, which, as Rich alluded to,

1415
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 5: can be a little sleepy. But USC, listen, I think

1416
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:04,839
Speaker 5: danton Lyn's done a really good job with this defense.

1417
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 5: I think that's the best hire Lincoln Riley's ever made.

1418
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 5: And I think Michigan is obviously the more physical team,

1419
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 5: but USC does have the ability to stretch you vertically

1420
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 5: wink Martindale's defense. We talked about this against Oklahoma. They

1421
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 5: play a zone scheme. They like to keep everything in front,

1422
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 5: but they're not as physically talented in the secondary as

1423
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 5: they've been in years past. Like I think the USC

1424
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 5: receivers can have can have some edge here. The question

1425
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:34,600
Speaker 5: is are the Trojan defenders ready for the physicality that

1426
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 5: is Justice Saints number two and runs of forty yards

1427
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 5: Number one team in the country and runs of fifty

1428
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 5: yards or more. I mean this, this kid is an

1429
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 5: explosive nightmare on the ground. If they let Underwood grow

1430
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 5: up a little bit and say, hey, listen, let a

1431
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 5: rip kid, I think Michigan can win this game. But

1432
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 5: I'll be honest, I kind of lean USC here just

1433
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 5: because I'm not sure Michigan is ready to take the

1434
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 5: handcuffs off their bashman quarterback just yet.

1435
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:01,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1436
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 3: No interesting stuff. You might be right, we shall see.

1437
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,680
Speaker 4: It's funny every time you mentioned the Rockies, Jared, I

1438
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 4: think of the movie dumb and dumby right where he's like,

1439
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 4: you've had extra gloves this whole game.

1440
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're in the rockies. See, I think that every day.

1441
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 4: You said it twice though, and I go right to

1442
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 4: dumb and dumber when you say it each time.

1443
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Speaker 3: There tremendous movie.

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Speaker 4: is time for the ti Iraq Play of the day.

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Speaker 2: Three to two.

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01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 9: Pitch on the way sway yea light drive, they said,

1463
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 9: right field? All right, Polaco for the walk up single,

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01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 9: and the Mariners are gonna play for the America League Championship.

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01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:33,719
Speaker 9: The Mariners win the battle in Seattle in fifteen inchs.

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01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 2: The Mariners win it.

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01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 5: Three to two.

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01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 9: The Mariners will be on their way to Toronto to

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01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 9: take out the Blue Jays.

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Speaker 6: What of that? The game?

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Speaker 2: Fifteen inches?

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Speaker 9: All right, Polacco's getting mob out in left field.

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Speaker 4: us had Mariners Blue Jays in the ALCS, did we not?

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Speaker 2: Correct? Absolutely correct?

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Speaker 5: We all had the Dodgers, though I have to tell

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Speaker 5: you that for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let's be honest. The Dodgers are winning the World Series.

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Speaker 2: Guys.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry to all the Toronto and Seattle fans out there.

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01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:32,600
Speaker 4: I mean, they're absolutely going to be the runaway favorites.

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Speaker 4: But you know, we'll see, maybe we'll get a little

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01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 4: unexpected drama. We'll see how it plays.

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Speaker 8: The partners are good, they're a complete lineup. I mean

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01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,799
Speaker 8: one through nine really really solid.

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01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 2: And that's the.

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Speaker 8: First time maybe in Seattle history, you can say that.

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01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 8: So if they're able to survive the Alcs, that'll be

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01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 8: a fun matchup. That'll be a really you'll have a

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01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 8: lot of the West Coast engaged in that one too.

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Speaker 5: By the way, ratings will stink though, unfortunately, yeah they will,

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Speaker 5: they will.

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Speaker 2: Real fans.

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Speaker 4: How about our trusted producer Bo Benson and his dedication

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01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 4: to his craft. You know, he could have gone with

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01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 4: I don't know, another highlight, could have said, you know,

1504
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 4: in fairness to Chris Purfet, technical producer extraordinaire, big Detroit guy,

1505
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,719
Speaker 4: let's go with the South Florida touchdown highlight.

1506
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 3: He's like, no, no, that's not gonna do. Sorry, Chris

1507
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 3: is gonna sting a little bit, but this has to

1508
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 3: be today.

1509
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, got a job.

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01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:27,640
Speaker 5: Option two was the final call of the Aces winning.

1511
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 2: Their uh oh yeah, okay, yeah.

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01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 7: I figured the Tigers game was more relevant to and

1513
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 7: unfortunately for Bo this there's just gonna be tension in

1514
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 7: this control room for the rest of the day. I

1515
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 7: spend another nine hours in here with him.

1516
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 3: It would have been a good highlight of it.

1517
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 4: And Nate Tippets has been ejected for simply arguing it's crazy.

1518
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 3: I don't know what the wing those insane.

1519
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 5: Fun fact, the Aces have won three w NBA titles

1520
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 5: since I've moved to Vegas. Before I moved to Vegas zero,

1521
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:54,679
Speaker 5: So obviously I'm the good luck.

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01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 4: Trn listen man real quick. Ryan Ruco does a great job.

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01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 4: I hate these orchestra traded calls for three of a

1524
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 4: kind for the Ace. Oh my gosh, dude, really, I

1525
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 4: didn't think about that off the top of his head.

1526
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 3: He thought about that nine nights before he.

1527
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:13,839
Speaker 5: Get that out of the out of the the Nance

1528
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 5: playbook with the Masters, that's that's a Nance thing.

1529
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, what did he say when the Chiefs beat

1530
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 4: the Niners in Vegas?

1531
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 2: Jackpot?

1532
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, yeah, and he wasn't talking about my

1533
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 5: beautiful dog.

1534
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 2: That's right.

1535
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 3: Gave me a leg tattoo for the rest of my life.

1536
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 3: We got props to get to. Let's do this.

1537
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 2: Prop it up plays.

1538
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 4: All right, Jared, we start with you. What is a

1539
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 4: prop that you were fond of today?

1540
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 5: Sir, Yeah, we talked about it in the SEC whip

1541
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 5: around there. I'm going cam Coleman under fifteen and a

1542
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 5: half receiving yards. I think this is going to be

1543
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 5: a rock fight Auburn Georgia. I think he only had

1544
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 5: four for eighteen versay and m two weeks ago. And

1545
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:57,759
Speaker 5: Mike Elcho is a good defensive coach, so is Kirby.

1546
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 5: Smart defenses are figuring out how to slow down this

1547
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 5: Auburn offense. You play bracket coverage on cam Coleman, you

1548
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 5: take away that explosive vertical, you make Jackson Arnold pull

1549
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 5: it on the RPO and become a runner, and it

1550
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 5: just turns Auburn very one dimensional. So cam Coleman, I

1551
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 5: don't think he has an explosive day under fifty and

1552
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 5: a half receiving yards for the Auburn X receiver.

1553
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 8: Okay, we're returning to a well, I hit on a

1554
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,640
Speaker 8: passing prop with Tailing Green earlier in the season. On

1555
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 8: prop it up, I go back to Tailing Green, Arkansas quarterback.

1556
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 2: However, this time a rushing prop fifty seven and a half.

1557
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 2: Give me the over. Tennessee gives up a.

1558
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 8: Ton of successful plays on the ground to opposing offenses.

1559
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 2: They're also missing a key piece All.

1560
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 8: American corner Jermad McCoy out for the balls. They're gonna

1561
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 8: play more coverage to make up for that loss, especially

1562
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,679
Speaker 8: in their men to man defense.

1563
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 2: So that means they're.

1564
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 8: Gonna have a less availability of adding players to the

1565
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 8: box to slow down Tailing Green's rushing attack exploiting the

1566
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 8: edges of that defense. So give me again, Tailing Green,

1567
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 8: quarterback for the Arkansas Razorbacks, fifty seven and a half

1568
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 8: from taking over that rushing total.

1569
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 4: Okay, I love these quarterback rushing numbers. Or I had

1570
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:17,599
Speaker 4: Castellanos last week against Miami. Yeah, and the sack yardage

1571
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 4: counts against you kills you.

1572
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 3: And when he gets sacked it's like a loss of twelve.

1573
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 5: You're like, just throw it just I don't care.

1574
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 4: I don't care if it's a Betel ground, he just

1575
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 4: throw the ball anywhere.

1576
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:32,640
Speaker 3: Yes, I don't here right exactly.

1577
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with Jeremiah Smith, the stud Ohio state

1578
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 4: wide receiver. I'm gonna take over ninety one and a

1579
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:40,639
Speaker 4: half receiving yards.

1580
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 3: I know it's a high.

1581
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 4: Number, but he's going up against Illinois worst pass defense

1582
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 4: in the Big Ten and Julian Sayan's played really, really

1583
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 4: well this year. So I like the over with Jeremiah Smith.

1584
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:54,680
Speaker 4: I think this is one of the spots where you

1585
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 4: know he's just gonna go ballistic in a couple of

1586
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 4: these Big Ten games. I think that's gonna be one

1587
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 4: of them. So I'm gonna take Jeremiah Smith to reach

1588
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:05,879
Speaker 4: at least ninety two receiving yards against the ALLIONI today.

1589
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:06,640
Speaker 5: I like that.

1590
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, you do nice. I like your pick too as well.

1591
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 4: Good breakdown, man, I had to abstain from Malachi Fields.

1592
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 4: I'm betting on him, but I didn't work him into

1593
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 4: profit up here all right, coming up neck. It's an

1594
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 4: aggressive move, but is it smart?

1595
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 2: Ah?

1596
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 4: Yes, Happy Saturday to you, getting you all set for

1597
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 4: a full day of college football. Seamus McGee from bet MGM.

1598
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 4: He'll be with us in about twenty minutes this hour.

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01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:35,680
Speaker 4: Looking forward to that. I mentioned this a couple of

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01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 4: minutes ago. It's an aggressive move, but is it smart?

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01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:43,599
Speaker 4: That's at least the approach that John Mattei is taking

1602
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 4: the Oklahoma quarterback. He wants to play. He had a

1603
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 4: broken right hand that required surgery. He's just seventeen days

1604
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 4: removed from surgery on his throwing hand, and all week

1605
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 4: we've heard nothing, but hey, he's now been upgraded. It

1606
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 4: looks like he's going to give it a go. And

1607
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 4: now you look at the betting market and Texas is

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01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 4: favored by one and a half, which indicates there are

1609
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:09,599
Speaker 4: a lot of betters that are not buying this whole

1610
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 4: John Matteir playing thing.

1611
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 3: Uh so, uh let's see what.

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01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 4: Would you chalk this up to. Do you think this

1613
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 4: is real? Do you think it's gamesmanship? Do you think

1614
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 4: that it could be option three? It could be that

1615
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 4: Matier is doing everything you can to play, really wants

1616
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:30,560
Speaker 4: to play against Texas. And at the you know, the

1617
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:33,520
Speaker 4: the very end, like right before the game starts.

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01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 3: It's like, Ehle's it's a little risky, let's not do that.

1619
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:37,680
Speaker 3: What do you think is going on here?

1620
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 2: Rich?

1621
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 4: How the week is played out and what you expect

1622
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,799
Speaker 4: from Matier either on or off the field today.

1623
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 8: It's a it's a risk, let's put it that way,

1624
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 8: if he does suit up, because all right, So this

1625
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 8: is the way these.

1626
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 2: Types of injuries work.

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01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 8: Typically when you get a surgery, obviously you have to

1628
01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 8: recover from the surgery first, and then whatever has been

1629
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 8: operated on needs to recover. Now, the surface area where

1630
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 8: they cut into his skin on his thumb, obviously that's

1631
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 8: healed now they're there, or as healed as it's going

1632
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 8: to be.

1633
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 2: It's probably still tender underneath. They they fixed bones.

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01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:23,679
Speaker 8: Now, look, in order for a bone to mend, everybody

1635
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 8: has a different healing time. But you know, you have

1636
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 8: to have bones attach themselves to screws and physical implements

1637
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 8: that you put in there, and and in order for

1638
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 8: that to happen, you gotta let the thing rest. You

1639
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:40,919
Speaker 8: obviously have to give yourself proper nutrition. You got to

1640
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 8: test the the the area that's been broken a few

1641
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:48,759
Speaker 8: times over the course of you know, a very well

1642
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 8: planned physical therapy plan. But if you're in a rush

1643
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 8: to get a guy back, can he play? I would

1644
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 8: say yeah, it would take them numbing it up pretty

1645
01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 8: good in that specific areas.

1646
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 2: So he doesn't lose mobility.

1647
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 8: But at the same token, he's not hampered by the pain,

1648
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 8: which is going to be the biggest problem. And then

1649
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 8: you got to look at risk reward. I mean, are

1650
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 8: we in a situation where you're okay both from the

1651
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 8: standpoint of the player and also the team potentially losing

1652
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 8: this guy for the season if he has a reinjury here,

1653
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 8: because that's what you're risking, and it's so early, we're

1654
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 8: only twenty days out from the initial injury that it

1655
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:29,880
Speaker 8: is a pretty significant risk.

1656
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 2: So can he play? Yeah? I think he could play.

1657
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 2: Would there be a way to mitigate the pain he's feeling?

1658
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 8: Absolutely? Will he be successful? Will he play an entire game?

1659
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 8: Is it a good idea? Those are very very different conversations.

1660
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 2: But can he play? The answer is absolutely yes.

1661
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's his throwing hand.

1662
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:53,559
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1663
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm no doctor, but usually when you're throwing

1664
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 5: hand is compromised in any way, the injury risk is

1665
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 5: kind of okay. That's one you know, debate about is

1666
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 5: he healthy enough? Is there enough stability and strength and

1667
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 5: mobility in all those things? I think is one side

1668
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 5: of the debate about his actual physical injury risk. The

1669
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:21,439
Speaker 5: other side of the debate is you have to throw

1670
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:26,759
Speaker 5: the football accurately in order to succeed in any level

1671
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:32,680
Speaker 5: of football. Can he do that continuously after taking hit

1672
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 5: after hit after hit? I mean, this is a Texas

1673
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 5: has got their backs against the wall. Man Like, they've

1674
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 5: got two losses already, They're coming off a loss in

1675
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:45,640
Speaker 5: the swamp. Their defense. I know, arch Manning's taken some

1676
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 5: lumps this year, and the offensive line hasn't been great

1677
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 5: and they can't run it, but this is still a

1678
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 5: pretty darn good Texas defense at held Ohio State to

1679
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 5: fourteen points. So I do think there is an element

1680
01:24:56,479 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 5: of what the heck is Oklahoma thinking throwing a kid

1681
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 5: out there that maybe can't even accurately throw the ball

1682
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 5: down field. And if Texas figures that out at any

1683
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 5: point in the game, I mean, this is gonna be

1684
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 5: like fish in a barrel. You remove the element of

1685
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 5: the explosive pass if he can't accurately throw it downfield,

1686
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 5: and Texas basically can use you know, the deep safeties

1687
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 5: is now box safeties. It's gonna make life really hard

1688
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 5: for this Oklahoma offense. Now, on the other side, Texas

1689
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:34,559
Speaker 5: is like two yards and a cloud of dust on offense.

1690
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 5: So it might not matter if Oklahoma can generate some

1691
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 5: short fields and put our commanding in some difficult spots.

1692
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 5: I mean, they can out run the ball the running

1693
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 5: backs against Florida last week nine carries for eleven yards.

1694
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 5: In two games against Ohio State and Florida, Arch has

1695
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 5: been pressured on almost half of his dropbacks. The offensive

1696
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 5: line in the run game is non existent for Texas,

1697
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 5: So you get this. This is a hard game to handicap.

1698
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 5: These games at Red River are funk key. And now

1699
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 5: you throw this Materier injury in there at this is

1700
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 5: a This is like an emoji with the two hands

1701
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 5: up in the air.

1702
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 4: I think, Yeah, I just don't think Mateira is gonna play.

1703
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 4: The market moved again. Now Texas is favored by two

1704
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 4: and a half.

1705
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he's not playing.

1706
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 3: He's not playing.

1707
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 8: Okay, Yeah, Well, like I said, he could play Jared

1708
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 8: and Brian.

1709
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 2: The answer the question will he be effective? How long

1710
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 2: will he play?

1711
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 8: Those are questions that can be easily answered within the

1712
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 8: first couple of plays of this game.

1713
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 2: You know, I mean, I'll tell you right now.

1714
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 8: From breaking several fingers over the course of my career,

1715
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 8: The last thing to really truly come back is trusting

1716
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 8: your grip strength. Imagine how important that is for a

1717
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 8: quarterback when you're trying to grip a football, especially if

1718
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:47,640
Speaker 8: the ball gets wet with sweat or any weather that

1719
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:49,679
Speaker 8: the experience during the course of the game. I don't

1720
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 8: know what the chances of precipitation are, but like that

1721
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 8: is the reality of playing quarterback. You need your hands,

1722
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 8: your upper body to be one hundred percent and if

1723
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 8: it isn't, it actually is more advantageous for your starting quarterback.

1724
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 8: You're more talented quarterback to get healthy than to risk

1725
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 8: further injury. It's more advantageous to give a guy a

1726
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 8: chance to get some reps when the bullets are flying.

1727
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 8: For real, who's behind that quarterback? Because that quarterback may

1728
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 8: not be ready for quite some time. So season on

1729
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 8: the brink, I understand it. Everybody's looking for W's. It's

1730
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 8: highly unlikely if he plays, he plays for very long,

1731
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 8: or that he plays at all.

1732
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 2: Well.

1733
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:36,559
Speaker 4: I think that also the other Oklahoma quarterback, Michael Hawkins Junior.

1734
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 4: This must have been a weird week for him, you

1735
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 4: know where He's like, I get it, I get it.

1736
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 4: Materis a Heisman hopeful. But I got two hands that

1737
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 4: are not broken at all, you know, like a weird

1738
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 4: week for him.

1739
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:51,599
Speaker 5: My throwing hand isn't broken. Can I play coach?

1740
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:55,639
Speaker 2: Please? Guys? What about me? You know what, We'll get

1741
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 2: back to you Hawkins anyway. So about this.

1742
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 5: Materi guy, he played in his game year right, like

1743
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:02,599
Speaker 5: he has experienced in this game.

1744
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:03,759
Speaker 3: Yeah's true.

1745
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 4: By the way, it's all been about mateir in his

1746
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 4: injury situation.

1747
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 3: Going on here.

1748
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:11,880
Speaker 4: How about Arch Manning And because a lot of people

1749
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 4: think he's been banged up this year and it's not

1750
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 4: an excuse to resolve, you know, to absolve all the

1751
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:20,320
Speaker 4: wrongdoing this season, and there's been a lot he's been

1752
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 4: terrible under pressure and he's been under a lot of pressure.

1753
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 4: That old line has been rough. But this goes back

1754
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 4: a little more than a month ago. Remember when Steve Sarkisian,

1755
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 4: the head coach, he was trying to, you know, push

1756
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 4: away all this speculation about Arch being banged up. This

1757
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 4: is over a month ago. Listen to it again. The

1758
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 4: way it's played out since then, Arch.

1759
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 2: Manning seemed to be having some throwing pains by the

1760
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:46,560
Speaker 2: according to who arch Arch said that to you No.

1761
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 5: Oh, according to who, it just looked like he was.

1762
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 5: He doesn't have any Is there an explanation to why

1763
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 5: he was it looked like that.

1764
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1765
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 5: I've never filed I've never filmed any of you guys

1766
01:28:58,280 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 5: when you're using the bathroom, so I don't know what

1767
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 5: as you make when you're doing that.

1768
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 4: That's an interesting comment by Sark. But think about this,

1769
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:08,760
Speaker 4: like Arch might have been banged up throughout this year.

1770
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 4: And again, listen, like, I'm not saying go back, I

1771
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:15,920
Speaker 4: remember you Jared the first game of the year against

1772
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 4: Ohio State, the first throw of the season, it was

1773
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 4: like he was skipping a rock across a lake somewhere,

1774
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:24,760
Speaker 4: you know, And that's the He's not banged up then,

1775
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 4: So it doesn't absolve everything.

1776
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to say that.

1777
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 4: I'm just saying a banged up Arch manning potentially behind

1778
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:37,439
Speaker 4: a very suspect offensive line against Oklahoma's defense, that is

1779
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 4: a horrible combination for hook them.

1780
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:41,439
Speaker 2: Yeah it is.

1781
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 8: I mean, look, I I'll rewind the clock to Caleb

1782
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 8: Williams coming.

1783
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:51,240
Speaker 2: Out party where he was like the it quarterback and he.

1784
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 8: Had one more year left and at USC everybody was like,

1785
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:56,599
Speaker 8: oh my gosh, look at this guy.

1786
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 2: I mean, the future is bright.

1787
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 8: I mean USC if they're able to you know, you know,

1788
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:03,679
Speaker 8: this much success this year, But what if.

1789
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 2: They lose talent?

1790
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 8: Well they did and that offensive line struggled, and what

1791
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 8: happened to Caleb Williams. He looked a lot different his

1792
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 8: final season at USC than he did the preceding year. Well,

1793
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 8: arch Manning's going through a little bit of that. Do

1794
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 8: I think he is? Do I think he has talent?

1795
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:23,000
Speaker 8: I absolutely do. Do I think that this season is

1796
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:26,879
Speaker 8: a representation of how how good he would.

1797
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:29,719
Speaker 2: Play behind a better offensive line unit. No, I don't.

1798
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 8: I think that A part of it is the fact

1799
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:35,960
Speaker 8: that the lights are pretty bright for young guy when

1800
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:39,080
Speaker 8: he's finally handed the keys to the Ferrari and saying, hey,

1801
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 8: you know, don't don't ding defender, We're trusting you here

1802
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 8: and it's your job for real. As opposed to just

1803
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:48,599
Speaker 8: filling in in different spots, you know, garbage time whatever,

1804
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 8: this is.

1805
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 2: This is a very different feeling.

1806
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:54,719
Speaker 8: So yeah, he could be having some early season reaction

1807
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:58,520
Speaker 8: to that. Also, he's playing behind a really poor offensive

1808
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:01,160
Speaker 8: line and that's going to lead to some of what

1809
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 8: you see young quarterbacks don't just get hit. They also

1810
01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 8: have a memory of being hit, and so some of

1811
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:10,240
Speaker 8: the throws that you make later in a game are

1812
01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:13,559
Speaker 8: influenced by how much of a beating you took in.

1813
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:16,639
Speaker 2: The first quarter, in the first half. So key on that.

1814
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:22,040
Speaker 2: If I'm Oklahoma, I'm trying to just mash Arch early

1815
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 2: in this game. I'm trying.

1816
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 8: I'm trying to get to him, rattle his cage, make

1817
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:29,639
Speaker 8: sure he feels our presence this way, this way, later

1818
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 8: in the first half and to start the second half.

1819
01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:36,920
Speaker 8: Even when we're feigning blitz, even when we're just showing

1820
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 8: blitz and our plan is to bail, he's hearing footsteps

1821
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 8: around him where there aren't any, And so I think

1822
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:46,640
Speaker 8: that is a great tactic for Oklahoma to make it

1823
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 8: to even out maybe some of the talent disparity that

1824
01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 8: there is between these two teams.

1825
01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, here's what I see when I watch Arch, and

1826
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:56,240
Speaker 5: I have no idea if he's injured, I cannot speak

1827
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 5: to that. Here's what I see as someone who studies

1828
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:02,960
Speaker 5: quarterbacks on a regular basis. He is jittery with his feet. Yeah,

1829
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:07,360
Speaker 5: he is overstriding, and when you overstride, you tend to

1830
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:10,680
Speaker 5: miss low and away. You cannot control the nose of

1831
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 5: the football.

1832
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:11,920
Speaker 2: The nose of the.

1833
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:14,920
Speaker 5: Football is down right. Brian mentioned it that first throw

1834
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:18,559
Speaker 5: against Ohio State, jittery, low and away, it skipped into

1835
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 5: the receiver. It doesn't make sense though, because this is

1836
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:24,760
Speaker 5: a Manning. This kid was born with a football in

1837
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 5: his hand. So the fact that we're talking about arch

1838
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 5: Manning's mechanics doesn't make sense to me. That tells me

1839
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 5: there's something going on mentally, because mechanically speaking, this kid

1840
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:38,880
Speaker 5: is about as fundamentally sound as you would expect. Now

1841
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 5: Here is what I will say. In the game against

1842
01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:44,760
Speaker 5: what was it, Sam Houston a couple weeks ago, he

1843
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 5: took a big hit in the pocket, like mid first half.

1844
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 5: From that point on he calmed down and settled down

1845
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:54,800
Speaker 5: a little bit. So there is kind of this like

1846
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:57,799
Speaker 5: wake up call where all of a sudden it clicks

1847
01:32:57,840 --> 01:32:59,680
Speaker 5: and then he's throwing it really well. I mean, he

1848
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:02,599
Speaker 5: he's got the arm strength to fit it into tight windows,

1849
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:06,480
Speaker 5: but it's almost like he just isn't trusting his mechanics

1850
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:08,800
Speaker 5: at this point. It feels like it's a between the

1851
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:10,360
Speaker 5: ears thing he needs to go see, like a sports

1852
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 5: psychologist or something. I don't know, but what I'd like

1853
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:15,599
Speaker 5: to see in this game is a little bit more

1854
01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:21,879
Speaker 5: use your athleticism, manipulate the pocket, bootlegs, waggles, quarterback counters,

1855
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 5: use your size. You're six four two twenty. That is

1856
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:27,479
Speaker 5: a big quarterback, and especially in the SEC. So I

1857
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 5: think that to me is how I would approach this.

1858
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:35,000
Speaker 5: If he's just five step drop sitting in the pocket,

1859
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 5: reading the defense, let's throw to the open man. That's

1860
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 5: where he struggled this year. But when he's kind of

1861
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:43,719
Speaker 5: moving a little bit and you know, removing his brain

1862
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:46,920
Speaker 5: from the equation and just playing football, that's where we've

1863
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:49,439
Speaker 5: seen the best of arch Manning this season. So if

1864
01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 5: that's his strength this year, lean into that and don't

1865
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:55,840
Speaker 5: make him just play action drop back. Let's see what

1866
01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 5: the defense is giving me. There's your window. Throw it,

1867
01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:00,400
Speaker 5: because when he does that, it seems like the Hannicks

1868
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 5: are a little bit off.

1869
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:04,559
Speaker 3: Yeah no, well said all that stuff for sure.

1870
01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:07,719
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1871
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1877
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1878
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1879
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1880
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1881
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1882
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1895
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1896
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:19,479
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1897
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1898
01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:23,200
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1899
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:28,000
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1900
01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 4: we dive right into it. What do you guys need

1901
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:33,800
Speaker 4: the most here at BETMGM today? What is on the

1902
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:34,400
Speaker 4: wish list?

1903
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:40,480
Speaker 6: I think we have to start with the Missouri Tigers.

1904
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:44,280
Speaker 6: A lot of Alabama money coming in as a short

1905
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:49,160
Speaker 6: favorite going into Missouri, so Alabama minus three is a

1906
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:53,599
Speaker 6: pretty popular play. We're inning the Zoo coming up close though,

1907
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:57,320
Speaker 6: Illinois plus fourteen and a half and we're taking a

1908
01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:00,360
Speaker 6: lot of South Carolina money today, so we kind of

1909
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 6: like the c LSU cover nine and a half here today.

1910
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 2: Wow.

1911
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:09,240
Speaker 5: Interesting. All right, let's get to the most impactful injury

1912
01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:11,679
Speaker 5: of the week. It's the hand that rocks the cradle,

1913
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 5: John Matteer, and listen, Brent Venables has done this before, right.

1914
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:19,680
Speaker 5: Dylan Gabriel had a concussion a few years ago with

1915
01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 5: Oklahoma and we didn't know he was going to play

1916
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:23,760
Speaker 5: in Red River. We thought he was. Venables was kind

1917
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:25,880
Speaker 5: of teasing us that he was and then he didn't play.

1918
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:28,400
Speaker 5: So I wouldn't be shocked if this is all a

1919
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:31,839
Speaker 5: big ruse and it isn't going to be Matier starting

1920
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 5: today but what are you seeing with this number? And

1921
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:36,880
Speaker 5: what does the number tell us about what might happen

1922
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 5: at the Texas State Fair today?

1923
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 6: Feels like he is implying if this is Texas binus

1924
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:46,439
Speaker 6: two and a half, which is where currently six. But

1925
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 6: this is definitely the news of the week. I mean,

1926
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 6: we had that's stemming all over the place with this news.

1927
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 6: We had to move him from twenty five and the

1928
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:57,400
Speaker 6: tier twenty five to one to ten to one for

1929
01:36:57,439 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 6: the Heisman just because we were taking all these bets,

1930
01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:01,200
Speaker 6: just because the rumors that he might play this week.

1931
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:05,880
Speaker 6: But with this line movement, it feels like either he's

1932
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:09,439
Speaker 6: not playing or he's playing, but it's gonna be a

1933
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 6: you know, take a drive or to see how it

1934
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:15,920
Speaker 6: feels and then we'll evaluate. But Texas vise two and

1935
01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:18,160
Speaker 6: a half if the tier plays, I feel like this

1936
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:18,839
Speaker 6: is a pick.

1937
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:23,439
Speaker 8: Them George Healthy, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good point

1938
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 8: win Healthy. It does feel like it would be a

1939
01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:25,720
Speaker 8: pick them.

1940
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:27,760
Speaker 2: Georgia at Auburn.

1941
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 8: Auburn, I'll tell you what I really like them up

1942
01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 8: front on both sides of the ball.

1943
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:36,720
Speaker 2: Georgia obviously I don't know.

1944
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:40,000
Speaker 8: I mean, their first real visit from a real team

1945
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:41,240
Speaker 8: so far this season.

1946
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:44,560
Speaker 2: The spread right now, actually I don't have the updated.

1947
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 8: Number, but I know it was hovering around three to

1948
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 8: three and a half in terms of Auburn being favored

1949
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:53,120
Speaker 8: at home. What's or excuse me, Georgia being favored on

1950
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:56,000
Speaker 8: the road. What's what you read on this game, Shamus?

1951
01:37:57,080 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 6: A sharp side appears to be Auburn so far. I

1952
01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:02,760
Speaker 6: mean this opened around a touchdown. It's been beat down

1953
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:07,439
Speaker 6: to Auburn plus four where BENAMGM currently sits here. But

1954
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:10,840
Speaker 6: it's definitely public money on Georgia so far. Not the

1955
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:13,880
Speaker 6: biggest handle I would imagine so far on this game.

1956
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 6: I think posted a kickoff, I'll start seeing the money

1957
01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:19,479
Speaker 6: roll in. But I imagine we're going to need Auburn

1958
01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 6: as with Georgie b in such a short row.

1959
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:22,080
Speaker 2: Favorite.

1960
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:28,519
Speaker 4: How about this IU Oregon game, Seamus, where forget about

1961
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:31,400
Speaker 4: the point spread for a second. I mean not totally,

1962
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 4: but for a second, do you buy Indiana having the

1963
01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:37,240
Speaker 4: goods to the point where they're trying to punch up

1964
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:40,519
Speaker 4: a couple of weight classes going in and beating Oregon?

1965
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:42,440
Speaker 3: Do you believe in them to that degree?

1966
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:47,240
Speaker 6: I love the Loosiers. I think they're great. I love Signetty,

1967
01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:51,040
Speaker 6: but this week I was a little worried about him.

1968
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:53,280
Speaker 6: I wasn't sure what we were going to expect up

1969
01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:55,800
Speaker 6: in Austin. It's a really, really hard place to play.

1970
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:57,559
Speaker 6: I don't care what kind of team you have. But

1971
01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 6: the sharp side is Indiana. We open nine and a half,

1972
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:03,720
Speaker 6: were down to seven here, so there's definitely a lot

1973
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:05,800
Speaker 6: of reasons to believe that Indiana can go in and

1974
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:08,000
Speaker 6: you'll give them a game here in Oregon.

1975
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:12,400
Speaker 5: All right, give me some good news about Penn State

1976
01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:14,600
Speaker 5: because I feel like this is like the bottom of

1977
01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:19,280
Speaker 5: the barrel bet today. Nobody is talking about them. Everyone

1978
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:23,280
Speaker 5: is writing them off. They are an absolute dumpster fire.

1979
01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:26,680
Speaker 5: But Northwestern is not exactly elite, and like, if you

1980
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 5: want to, you know, compare rosters. I know UCLA has

1981
01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 5: gotten a lot of flak this year, but their roster

1982
01:39:31,240 --> 01:39:33,799
Speaker 5: is not bad. It was just the coaching was terrible.

1983
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:36,280
Speaker 5: I think Penn State lays a whooping on Northwestern and

1984
01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:38,400
Speaker 5: I think we get back to Jimmy covers with James

1985
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:39,080
Speaker 5: Franklin today.

1986
01:39:39,080 --> 01:39:41,880
Speaker 6: What do you think Penn State is such a heat

1987
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:44,280
Speaker 6: of the moment team for the betting community. It's so

1988
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:48,560
Speaker 6: funny at nine times out of ten Franklin off a loss,

1989
01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:51,240
Speaker 6: I'm expecting one way traffic. Penn State's going to run

1990
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:53,879
Speaker 6: up the score because they have to. We are taking

1991
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:58,840
Speaker 6: more Northwestern money. I like that decent chunk. We're going

1992
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 6: to need Penn State to cover three touchdowns, and I'm

1993
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:02,880
Speaker 6: with you, jer, I think they could lay it on

1994
01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:05,800
Speaker 6: Northwestern at home this week. I think it's going to

1995
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:08,479
Speaker 6: be a really testy crowd, but I think they're gonna

1996
01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:11,080
Speaker 6: want to really turn the ties here, really run it up.

1997
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:11,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1998
01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:13,519
Speaker 6: I could have said the same thing last week. I

1999
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:17,880
Speaker 6: think we did. But yeah, you know, it's a different circumstances,

2000
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:20,000
Speaker 6: I suppose. But yeah, we're gonna need Penn State in

2001
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:21,200
Speaker 6: this one as it stands.

2002
01:40:22,160 --> 01:40:26,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, in talking about Penn State, when when I watched

2003
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:29,280
Speaker 8: this game live by the way at UCLA and I

2004
01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:33,360
Speaker 8: saw a team in the Bruins who had this unbelievable

2005
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:38,160
Speaker 8: game against a team who, by all accounts they should

2006
01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:41,439
Speaker 8: have lost to and by a large margin. If you

2007
01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:43,679
Speaker 8: look at what the spread was, I think it settled

2008
01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:44,880
Speaker 8: at twenty four and a half.

2009
01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:47,559
Speaker 2: What do you think about UCLA moving forward?

2010
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:51,240
Speaker 8: I mean, is there is there any reason to take

2011
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:53,720
Speaker 8: a closer look at the Bruins in terms of a

2012
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:57,160
Speaker 8: team that may have a renewed energy and vigor behind

2013
01:40:57,160 --> 01:40:59,320
Speaker 8: them with some of the changes that were made.

2014
01:40:59,200 --> 01:40:59,759
Speaker 2: At the top.

2015
01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:04,200
Speaker 6: I like them this week because I'm not that high

2016
01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:06,280
Speaker 6: on Michigan State. I think they can go in there

2017
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:06,599
Speaker 6: and give.

2018
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:07,080
Speaker 5: Them a game.

2019
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:12,479
Speaker 6: Anything's possible. Nico showed us what he could do, like

2020
01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:14,799
Speaker 6: at his best last week, and if that's the quarterback

2021
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:17,280
Speaker 6: you can get on a consistent basis, you'll have a

2022
01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:20,400
Speaker 6: shot every week. You know, there appears to be a

2023
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:23,680
Speaker 6: lot of enthusiasms around you know, new Hocksital the O.

2024
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:25,719
Speaker 6: See that's been got a lot of talk this week.

2025
01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:29,760
Speaker 6: I will see this week. I think they're pretty live

2026
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:31,759
Speaker 6: and he's lansing this week, so we'll see.

2027
01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:35,639
Speaker 4: All right, Seamus, it is that special time yet again?

2028
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:38,320
Speaker 4: What is your same as Shamus special this week?

2029
01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:44,120
Speaker 6: So last week Tolson played Elon who was seventeen to

2030
01:41:44,160 --> 01:41:48,519
Speaker 6: three loss. Today they get mon missed one of the

2031
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:52,320
Speaker 6: highest powered offenses in the country. This total is sitting

2032
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:56,519
Speaker 6: at seventy seven and a half. What you bet we're

2033
01:41:56,520 --> 01:42:00,240
Speaker 6: going over? We're taking the over this spread open that

2034
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:03,920
Speaker 6: ten Mama finus ten. It's down to eighth. The toll

2035
01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:06,360
Speaker 6: hasn't moved all that much. If you can find a

2036
01:42:06,439 --> 01:42:08,840
Speaker 6: seventy seven and a half, I think that's good. I

2037
01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:11,559
Speaker 6: think Twson is actually able to score this week. Monmouth,

2038
01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:13,800
Speaker 6: I think we can bank on them to put up

2039
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:16,920
Speaker 6: fifty themselves. It's just how much can we get from Towson.

2040
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:19,719
Speaker 6: I'm like the over here and I'm seeing a pretty

2041
01:42:19,720 --> 01:42:22,160
Speaker 6: big move as we speak right now, So we may

2042
01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:24,120
Speaker 6: have to hop on this seventy seven and a half

2043
01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:24,439
Speaker 6: a we.

2044
01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:27,240
Speaker 3: Can Okay, wow wow, all right?

2045
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 4: Yeah real quick and bet this sort of like a

2046
01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:32,680
Speaker 4: South Florida North Texas game from last night.

2047
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:34,400
Speaker 3: That what we're expecting here, Seamus.

2048
01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:37,840
Speaker 6: That was insane. I remember watching that. I had North Texas.

2049
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:39,679
Speaker 6: I couldn't believe what I saw it forst five minutes

2050
01:42:39,720 --> 01:42:40,479
Speaker 6: that second half.

2051
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:44,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, wild stuff, man, no doubt. Well, hey Seamus, always

2052
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:46,280
Speaker 3: great to catch up with you, man, enjoy the day.

2053
01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 3: We'll catch you soon.

2054
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:49,320
Speaker 2: Have it going guys, you too.

2055
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:52,280
Speaker 4: There He is Seamus McGee, our guy, team lead of

2056
01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:55,960
Speaker 4: sports trading at bet MGM. Very nice man. Just don't

2057
01:42:55,960 --> 01:43:00,439
Speaker 4: say anything negative about Virginia. He'll come after you, even

2058
01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:02,679
Speaker 4: even like a tongue in cheek joke, He'll come after

2059
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:06,000
Speaker 4: your juggular. He didn't mess around over there that Seamus Protexas.

2060
01:43:06,040 --> 01:43:06,800
Speaker 3: Who's hey?

2061
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:10,960
Speaker 4: How about Ohio State at Illinois? Ohio State a road

2062
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:13,720
Speaker 4: favorite of fourteen and a half. We get this thing

2063
01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:16,479
Speaker 4: going in just a half hour from now, kicking this off.

2064
01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 4: This Ohio State defense has been unbelievable all year, given

2065
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:26,840
Speaker 4: up twenty five points all season long. They've done exceptional

2066
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:31,080
Speaker 4: against everybody that they faced. My favorite stat is against Washington.

2067
01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:34,000
Speaker 4: Right so, leading up to that game when Ohio State

2068
01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:38,800
Speaker 4: won on the road, Washington was ranked first nationally in

2069
01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:42,200
Speaker 4: points per drive and then they played Ohio State and

2070
01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:45,320
Speaker 4: then they scored six points against Ohios and from first

2071
01:43:45,439 --> 01:43:48,400
Speaker 4: nationally in points per drive to six total points against

2072
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:51,280
Speaker 4: this Buckey's defense. That's the first part of this. What

2073
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 4: is the ALI and I going to be able to

2074
01:43:54,240 --> 01:43:58,360
Speaker 4: do against Ohio State's defense not gonna be a whole lot.

2075
01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:01,080
Speaker 4: And when you have the worst pass defense in the

2076
01:44:01,120 --> 01:44:03,519
Speaker 4: Big Ten, that is not a great recipe.

2077
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:03,760
Speaker 2: I know.

2078
01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:06,120
Speaker 4: It's a big number. Fourteen and a half. If you

2079
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:08,439
Speaker 4: had to choose rich, which slide are you on here?

2080
01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:14,320
Speaker 2: Man? That is a number? Huh? Look the buck guys.

2081
01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 8: Heading to Illinois again, another house of horrors for Big

2082
01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:23,400
Speaker 8: Ten teams in the past. Champagne is no easy place

2083
01:44:23,439 --> 01:44:26,000
Speaker 8: to take the visit to. I've been there many times.

2084
01:44:26,080 --> 01:44:30,000
Speaker 8: It's just a weird place to be. Ohio State, obviously,

2085
01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:32,480
Speaker 8: what you said about their defense and what Matt Patricia

2086
01:44:32,479 --> 01:44:36,200
Speaker 8: has done specifically as defensive coordinator after making a big

2087
01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:39,280
Speaker 8: change there has been pretty special for Ohio State.

2088
01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:43,920
Speaker 2: They've been good Ohio or excuse me, Illinois.

2089
01:44:43,479 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 8: Hasn't looked good on defense, especially in the secondary. We

2090
01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:49,599
Speaker 8: know that Saying can throw the ball and he can

2091
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:53,720
Speaker 8: find Jeremiah Smith and they have weapons on the outside.

2092
01:44:54,560 --> 01:44:58,439
Speaker 8: Am I do I think Ohio State can cover the spread?

2093
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:02,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? I I think they could, But.

2094
01:45:02,240 --> 01:45:05,760
Speaker 8: I'm I would be more comfortable taking the over in

2095
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:09,120
Speaker 8: this one. And I know that's a cop out, and

2096
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:11,960
Speaker 8: I think that Ohio State would obviously do the majority

2097
01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:14,120
Speaker 8: of the work there and we could get to the

2098
01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:18,120
Speaker 8: Illinois offensive Illinois offense in a second here, but I

2099
01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:22,000
Speaker 8: would be more comfortable. If you think that Ohio State

2100
01:45:22,120 --> 01:45:25,599
Speaker 8: is going to score, it will on Illinois. That might

2101
01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:29,120
Speaker 8: be my play instead of looking at Ohio State to

2102
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:31,280
Speaker 8: win by three scores.

2103
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:33,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't have much on this one. To be

2104
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:36,519
Speaker 5: honest with you, I do think Ohio State's defense is

2105
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:40,559
Speaker 5: the best unit on the field. I think Illinois, based

2106
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:43,680
Speaker 5: on the numbers, they're definitely not an elite team in

2107
01:45:43,720 --> 01:45:46,680
Speaker 5: any real category. I do think alt Meyer's got some

2108
01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:49,240
Speaker 5: moxie to them. I like their passing game a little

2109
01:45:49,240 --> 01:45:52,960
Speaker 5: bit more than I did last year. But I think

2110
01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:55,840
Speaker 5: this is hammered or nail I really do. I think

2111
01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:59,720
Speaker 5: Illinois when they manage up and this was the handicap

2112
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:02,400
Speaker 5: on them. This is why I was higher on some

2113
01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:06,200
Speaker 5: of the other Big Ten teams on Illinois's schedule, because

2114
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:09,439
Speaker 5: I think the market really liked Illinois coming into the season,

2115
01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:12,920
Speaker 5: and I wasn't sold and so like at USC, even

2116
01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:14,920
Speaker 5: though I lost that game Washington a little later on

2117
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:20,639
Speaker 5: in the year, I think Illinois gettable right like Indiana

2118
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:24,040
Speaker 5: exposed them. So if the ball starts rolling down the hill,

2119
01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:26,080
Speaker 5: I think that's where Illinois struggles.

2120
01:46:26,120 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 2: Now.

2121
01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:29,600
Speaker 5: The game against USC was very nip and talk, But

2122
01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:32,479
Speaker 5: what did we see. What was the weakness for Illinois

2123
01:46:32,479 --> 01:46:35,840
Speaker 5: in that game? It was they could not defend McKay

2124
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:39,439
Speaker 5: lemon like it was all over the yard. Well a

2125
01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:41,400
Speaker 5: WHI I'll say it's got like three McKay lemons, Like

2126
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:45,240
Speaker 5: I mean it just so that's what scares me about Illinois.

2127
01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:48,080
Speaker 5: You know, I could see them kind of trading blows

2128
01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:51,800
Speaker 5: early and then bang, Jeremiah Smith or Carnell Tait or

2129
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:55,360
Speaker 5: Ennis hits one of those explosives, and it's just the

2130
01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:58,599
Speaker 5: shock value of that I think, might you know, scare

2131
01:46:58,640 --> 01:47:01,920
Speaker 5: Illinois straight a little bit. So my gut says Ohio

2132
01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:05,759
Speaker 5: State and the under. But like I think the numbers

2133
01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:08,280
Speaker 5: price correct, Like I would not be surprised if Illinois

2134
01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:10,600
Speaker 5: lost by fourteen and then we're like, oh wow, like

2135
01:47:10,640 --> 01:47:12,760
Speaker 5: Illinois got beat hard, but they covered the spread. So

2136
01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:15,800
Speaker 5: it's just I'm not a huge I don't have a

2137
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:18,400
Speaker 5: huge opinion on this game besides the fact that Ohio

2138
01:47:18,400 --> 01:47:20,240
Speaker 5: State has the best unit on the field and the

2139
01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:22,599
Speaker 5: one weakness for Illinois has been that secondary and that's

2140
01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:23,879
Speaker 5: where Ohio State has a strength.

2141
01:47:24,040 --> 01:47:27,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I worry about that Illinois offensive line. Also, you know,

2142
01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:33,560
Speaker 4: like when Altmeier is under siege against IU. You know

2143
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:36,519
Speaker 4: what I mean, It's like, Okay, we talked about like

2144
01:47:36,640 --> 01:47:38,560
Speaker 4: exposing your your weaknesses.

2145
01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:41,160
Speaker 3: If you go into this game, you're like, Illinois.

2146
01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:44,240
Speaker 4: How's the offensive line not good, not good, and we're

2147
01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:46,760
Speaker 4: taking on the Buckeyes. It's like, oh gosh, that could

2148
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:49,479
Speaker 4: be ugly real fast right there by the way, real fast.

2149
01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:50,599
Speaker 3: Why we have a couple of minutes.

2150
01:47:50,680 --> 01:47:53,439
Speaker 4: I don't want to drag this out, but what do

2151
01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:56,440
Speaker 4: you think of the week that was for Bill Belichick

2152
01:47:56,920 --> 01:47:58,160
Speaker 4: in North Carolina?

2153
01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:01,120
Speaker 3: My goodness? Right, Like, we've.

2154
01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:05,320
Speaker 4: Got joint statements from the Belichick camp and also North

2155
01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:09,320
Speaker 4: Carolina's camp. We're fully committed. Belichick has our full support.

2156
01:48:09,400 --> 01:48:13,000
Speaker 4: We're talking about potential buyouts. It's just wild.

2157
01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:14,000
Speaker 3: It's come to this.

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01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:17,320
Speaker 4: Where I saw a graphic earlier, It's been like forty

2159
01:48:17,400 --> 01:48:22,400
Speaker 4: years since something like that. I'd have to actually get it.

2160
01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:25,639
Speaker 4: Don't quote me on that, but it was on a

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01:48:25,680 --> 01:48:27,200
Speaker 4: sports center with Scott Van Pelt.

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01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:28,360
Speaker 3: I'll try to get it real quick.

2163
01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:32,120
Speaker 4: But it's like, the last forty games before Belichick, they

2164
01:48:32,160 --> 01:48:36,559
Speaker 4: had one twenty five point loss, and in five games

2165
01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:40,320
Speaker 4: with Belichick they've had three losses of at least twenty

2166
01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:45,559
Speaker 4: five points. It's been a complete disaster. And there are

2167
01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:47,080
Speaker 4: a lot of people that are like, yeah, we knew

2168
01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:50,080
Speaker 4: it was gonna work out, like this really did just

2169
01:48:50,160 --> 01:48:54,960
Speaker 4: see the greatest coach in NFL history failing to this

2170
01:48:55,120 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 4: degree and for it, like halfway through the season, we're

2171
01:48:58,040 --> 01:49:01,479
Speaker 4: talking about buyouts here. It sounds silly, like no one

2172
01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:03,280
Speaker 4: wants to say, Yeah, it's a bit of a surprise.

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01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:06,120
Speaker 4: I'm surprised it's been this bad. Where do you guys

2174
01:49:06,120 --> 01:49:07,559
Speaker 4: stand in the whole Belichick thing?

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01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:08,400
Speaker 2: I agree.

2176
01:49:09,479 --> 01:49:12,280
Speaker 8: I did not predict that when he made the move

2177
01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:16,599
Speaker 8: back to college football that included with that would be

2178
01:49:16,920 --> 01:49:22,000
Speaker 8: his new girlfriend having some sort of role with him

2179
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:24,080
Speaker 8: from the standpoint.

2180
01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:26,559
Speaker 2: Of his career as a coach. That's new.

2181
01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:31,559
Speaker 8: The fact that he has, you know, it seems very

2182
01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:37,080
Speaker 8: personally taken up arms against the Patriots either having access

2183
01:49:37,120 --> 01:49:42,960
Speaker 8: to players at UNC or having the football program be

2184
01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:48,080
Speaker 8: supportive of arguably one of UNC's best players to leave

2185
01:49:48,120 --> 01:49:52,880
Speaker 8: in recent memory. That's all very strange. So there's a

2186
01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:55,760
Speaker 8: lot of boxes on my bingo card that have been

2187
01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:59,759
Speaker 8: checked off or stamped this season with Bill Belichick heading

2188
01:49:59,800 --> 01:50:02,720
Speaker 8: to Chapel Hill that I did not expect to be

2189
01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:07,160
Speaker 8: champ checked off. He is a Super Bowl champ many

2190
01:50:07,240 --> 01:50:12,120
Speaker 8: times over. He is inarguably the smartest football mind I've

2191
01:50:12,120 --> 01:50:15,760
Speaker 8: ever been around. I played for the Patriots for three

2192
01:50:15,880 --> 01:50:19,800
Speaker 8: years when we were in the thick of that dynasty.

2193
01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:22,400
Speaker 2: And it really.

2194
01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 8: Feels odd how distant all of this feels to.

2195
01:50:27,840 --> 01:50:30,320
Speaker 2: How all that felt when I was there.

2196
01:50:30,479 --> 01:50:35,960
Speaker 8: So a very confusing opening salvo to his collegiate head

2197
01:50:35,960 --> 01:50:36,719
Speaker 8: coaching career.

2198
01:50:37,400 --> 01:50:40,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, my first bet in the summer was UNC under

2199
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:44,759
Speaker 5: seven and a half wins. I think there is and

2200
01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:47,320
Speaker 5: I couldn't have imagined it going this poorly. I don't

2201
01:50:47,320 --> 01:50:51,160
Speaker 5: think anyone could have. But this week was kind of

2202
01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:55,000
Speaker 5: an eye opener for me because I worked in college

2203
01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:57,679
Speaker 5: athletics for a long time in the promotions and the

2204
01:50:57,720 --> 01:51:02,280
Speaker 5: information department, and my job was to promote the program.

2205
01:51:02,640 --> 01:51:05,880
Speaker 5: When a player moved on to another team or a

2206
01:51:06,040 --> 01:51:11,320
Speaker 5: professional team and he played well, my job was to

2207
01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:15,520
Speaker 5: literally blast that out and scream it from the mountaintops.

2208
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:19,400
Speaker 5: Look at how great a kid from this program can

2209
01:51:19,520 --> 01:51:25,080
Speaker 5: perform at a higher level. And when Bill is suppressing

2210
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:29,439
Speaker 5: that because he has a feud against the Patriots, and

2211
01:51:29,479 --> 01:51:32,240
Speaker 5: it just so happens that Drake May plays for the Patriots,

2212
01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:37,080
Speaker 5: Drake May went into Buffalo and beat the defending MVP. Yeah,

2213
01:51:37,160 --> 01:51:41,120
Speaker 5: outplayed them blow for blow. If I'm North Carolina and

2214
01:51:41,200 --> 01:51:44,840
Speaker 5: their sports information department, I am screaming that from the

2215
01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:48,479
Speaker 5: mountaintops to every recruit, especially quarterback recruit that will listen.

2216
01:51:49,280 --> 01:51:52,120
Speaker 5: But it was silent because Bill has this feud with

2217
01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:56,040
Speaker 5: North Carolina. In my opinion, he is unfit to coach

2218
01:51:56,120 --> 01:52:02,280
Speaker 5: college football, unfit to be a college coach because about

2219
01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:05,640
Speaker 5: college sports, it's more about the program than it is

2220
01:52:05,720 --> 01:52:10,160
Speaker 5: the person. Yeah, but in college sports, right now at UNC,

2221
01:52:10,680 --> 01:52:13,720
Speaker 5: it's about Bill and not about the tar Heels. And

2222
01:52:14,160 --> 01:52:18,120
Speaker 5: right now, at some point, UNC's going to have to

2223
01:52:18,160 --> 01:52:22,120
Speaker 5: decide what's best for the program and what's best for Bill,

2224
01:52:22,720 --> 01:52:24,799
Speaker 5: because right now those two things are not aligned.

2225
01:52:25,439 --> 01:52:26,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy.

2226
01:52:26,240 --> 01:52:29,000
Speaker 4: I don't know who kidnapped Bill Belichick and replaced them

2227
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:30,720
Speaker 4: with whoever this impost is.

2228
01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:32,760
Speaker 3: But I don't recognize this guy at all.

2229
01:52:33,240 --> 01:52:37,519
Speaker 4: Like you think about his whole approach to football, it's

2230
01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:40,400
Speaker 4: like two key catchphrases. It was do your job and

2231
01:52:40,479 --> 01:52:44,320
Speaker 4: no days off, right, Like, that's the Bill Belichick whole mo.

2232
01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:47,960
Speaker 4: And in the bye week he flew off to Nantucket

2233
01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:52,080
Speaker 4: with his girlfriend. Unbelievable, And it's like what some might

2234
01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:53,599
Speaker 4: look at that and be like, yeah, it's the bye week,

2235
01:52:53,600 --> 01:52:57,599
Speaker 4: big deal. They're falling apart, they're ripping apart at the seams.

2236
01:52:57,800 --> 01:53:00,920
Speaker 4: You know this, This team is a collacor and he's

2237
01:53:01,120 --> 01:53:04,000
Speaker 4: flying offter in a bye week. That's not the Belichick

2238
01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:07,400
Speaker 4: I know at all. And that's where we're at. I

2239
01:53:07,479 --> 01:53:11,920
Speaker 4: boggled this. I bungled the staff stat if you will,

2240
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:15,120
Speaker 4: my goodness. So this goes back to twenty nineteen at

2241
01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:20,240
Speaker 4: North Carolina. Seventy eight games before Belichick one twenty five

2242
01:53:20,320 --> 01:53:24,760
Speaker 4: point loss, Okay, five games with Belichick, three twenty five

2243
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:25,479
Speaker 4: point losses.

2244
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:26,840
Speaker 3: So it's a little.

2245
01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:31,040
Speaker 4: Bigger sample size before Belichick, which puts into perspective like

2246
01:53:31,120 --> 01:53:34,040
Speaker 4: where the program was now where it is. They got

2247
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:37,519
Speaker 4: crushed by TCU, they got crushed by UCF, and they

2248
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:40,640
Speaker 4: got crushed by Clemson, who's been brutal this season. So

2249
01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:43,880
Speaker 4: that's where North Carolina is. And don't look now, but

2250
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:48,000
Speaker 4: the Irish are still on the schedule for North Carolina.

2251
01:53:48,240 --> 01:53:51,800
Speaker 4: It only get worse, you know, but wild stuff right there.

2252
01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:55,439
Speaker 4: In any case, we move it forward to today. We

2253
01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:58,439
Speaker 4: have a rapid fire selections right around the corner with

2254
01:53:58,600 --> 01:54:02,599
Speaker 4: Rich Orenberger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith FSR betting analyst.

2255
01:54:03,080 --> 01:54:06,960
Speaker 4: I'm Brian though only one direction to go but up

2256
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:10,040
Speaker 4: compared to last week. We got some winners picked out

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Speaker 4: for you. We'll share him with you.

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Speaker 3: Hey, props to the crew.

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Speaker 4: it locked right here on Fox Sports Radio. All right,

2282
01:55:20,280 --> 01:55:21,920
Speaker 4: we got some picks to make. Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Rapid fire.

2284
01:55:27,480 --> 01:55:29,440
Speaker 3: All right, this is where.

2285
01:55:29,280 --> 01:55:33,960
Speaker 4: We we distance ourselves from last week, no rally.

2286
01:55:34,520 --> 01:55:36,600
Speaker 3: We give you winners here, Jared, we start with you.

2287
01:55:36,680 --> 01:55:37,200
Speaker 2: What do you like?

2288
01:55:37,840 --> 01:55:41,200
Speaker 5: Let's start with Old Dominion, Old Dominion. Who the heck

2289
01:55:41,240 --> 01:55:43,400
Speaker 5: are they? They've been really good this year. Top five

2290
01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:45,400
Speaker 5: and net Yard's were played coming off a forty point

2291
01:55:45,480 --> 01:55:49,840
Speaker 5: whooping over Coastal. They're at Marshall today. Marshall isn't any good.

2292
01:55:50,240 --> 01:55:51,760
Speaker 5: They had a ton of kids leave in the portal

2293
01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:54,960
Speaker 5: after Charles hoff bolt at the Southern Miss That is

2294
01:55:55,040 --> 01:55:57,240
Speaker 5: more of a factor later on in the air, and

2295
01:55:57,240 --> 01:55:59,120
Speaker 5: you're starting to see it rear. It's uglyhead. They gave

2296
01:55:59,200 --> 01:56:01,880
Speaker 5: up fifty four points Stelapiete last week. We're laying fourteen

2297
01:56:01,920 --> 01:56:03,960
Speaker 5: and a half of Old Dominion. Obviously, I've got a

2298
01:56:04,040 --> 01:56:06,200
Speaker 5: late three and a half with Bama here at Missoo.

2299
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:08,920
Speaker 5: This has been hot to trot on the tide all

2300
01:56:08,960 --> 01:56:11,640
Speaker 5: week long. I think this is Ty Simpson's time to shine.

2301
01:56:11,720 --> 01:56:14,800
Speaker 5: Jan Miller finally got going last week. The d shut

2302
01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:16,520
Speaker 5: out the Doors in the second half. This might be

2303
01:56:16,600 --> 01:56:19,120
Speaker 5: the game where you finally wake up and say, oh man,

2304
01:56:19,160 --> 01:56:21,360
Speaker 5: Ty Simpsons best quarterback in college football. I think Bama

2305
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:24,080
Speaker 5: covers the number at Missoo and I'll take the over

2306
01:56:24,240 --> 01:56:26,960
Speaker 5: fifty three and a half in Oregon and Indiana. I

2307
01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:29,680
Speaker 5: don't trust the Ducks secondary. They haven't faced the power

2308
01:56:29,720 --> 01:56:32,480
Speaker 5: for top eighty passing offense yet. When fence they finally

2309
01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:34,480
Speaker 5: woke up a couple of weeks ago, they were slicing

2310
01:56:34,480 --> 01:56:36,360
Speaker 5: and dicing the Ducks like it was Skeee Kings Duck.

2311
01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:39,080
Speaker 5: I think they should be able to stay on schedule

2312
01:56:39,160 --> 01:56:43,680
Speaker 5: Indiana's offense because they like to get the ball out fast,

2313
01:56:43,720 --> 01:56:45,600
Speaker 5: and I think Oregan's going to sustain a bunch of drives.

2314
01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:47,360
Speaker 5: So points points points over fifty three and a half

2315
01:56:47,360 --> 01:56:48,160
Speaker 5: Oregon Indiana.

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01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:50,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was this close to taking the over on

2317
01:56:50,360 --> 01:56:53,720
Speaker 8: that game as well. Jared and I, However, we do

2318
01:56:53,960 --> 01:56:56,000
Speaker 8: have a little bit of a fork in the road here.

2319
01:56:56,520 --> 01:56:58,560
Speaker 2: He likes Bama, I like Missoo.

2320
01:56:58,680 --> 01:57:02,120
Speaker 8: I took Massou on the money line earlier on the

2321
01:57:02,160 --> 01:57:03,000
Speaker 8: parlay platter.

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01:57:04,040 --> 01:57:06,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the points here. And here's the reason why.

2323
01:57:06,280 --> 01:57:07,960
Speaker 2: On rapid fire, we just need wins.

2324
01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:11,640
Speaker 8: So if you're not as sold on Missou as I am,

2325
01:57:11,680 --> 01:57:14,080
Speaker 8: you can take the points because Vama's got a win

2326
01:57:14,120 --> 01:57:16,320
Speaker 8: by a touchdown not a field goal here, So you

2327
01:57:16,360 --> 01:57:19,000
Speaker 8: get a little wiggle room with the hook plus three

2328
01:57:19,040 --> 01:57:22,240
Speaker 8: and a half for Missouri hosting the Crimson time you

2329
01:57:22,360 --> 01:57:23,560
Speaker 8: heard Jamis talk about it.

2330
01:57:23,640 --> 01:57:24,960
Speaker 2: The reason why I asked him.

2331
01:57:24,800 --> 01:57:28,120
Speaker 8: About it was because I'm curious about UCLA. Do I

2332
01:57:28,160 --> 01:57:30,600
Speaker 8: think they get the win on the road dogged by

2333
01:57:30,640 --> 01:57:34,200
Speaker 8: seven and a half against Michigan State. No, not necessarily,

2334
01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:36,720
Speaker 8: but belief is a hell of a drug, and right

2335
01:57:36,760 --> 01:57:38,560
Speaker 8: now the Bruins believe in themselves.

2336
01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:41,080
Speaker 2: Do I think they keep it close with Sparty? Yes?

2337
01:57:41,160 --> 01:57:41,560
Speaker 2: I do.

2338
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:43,640
Speaker 8: Give me the plus seven and a half for the

2339
01:57:43,680 --> 01:57:48,120
Speaker 8: Bruins on the road in the Big ten Arkansas, First Tennessee.

2340
01:57:48,680 --> 01:57:51,320
Speaker 8: This is where I took the over sixty eight and

2341
01:57:51,320 --> 01:57:51,879
Speaker 8: a half.

2342
01:57:52,480 --> 01:57:53,800
Speaker 2: It may sail past this.

2343
01:57:54,480 --> 01:57:57,360
Speaker 8: None of these teams play any defense, and they've got

2344
01:57:57,360 --> 01:57:58,840
Speaker 8: a lot of talent offensively.

2345
01:57:59,280 --> 01:58:02,640
Speaker 2: Give me the we're on the huge total, all right.

2346
01:58:02,480 --> 01:58:06,800
Speaker 4: Okay, Uh, you know I'm gonna go with Uh. I'm

2347
01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:09,440
Speaker 4: gonna go with the first half under. Here give me

2348
01:58:09,480 --> 01:58:13,640
Speaker 4: Oklahoma Texas under twenty one and a half points. I

2349
01:58:13,720 --> 01:58:16,640
Speaker 4: just I don't buy that Matier is playing like the

2350
01:58:16,680 --> 01:58:19,960
Speaker 4: whole game. It is unaffected and looks like John Mattire.

2351
01:58:20,800 --> 01:58:25,440
Speaker 4: Really interesting development. So the the side has the money

2352
01:58:25,440 --> 01:58:27,880
Speaker 4: has gone toward Texas. They're now favored by two and

2353
01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:28,400
Speaker 4: a half.

2354
01:58:28,960 --> 01:58:29,560
Speaker 3: How about this.

2355
01:58:29,960 --> 01:58:33,360
Speaker 4: There's a John Matteir prop bet posted on bet MGM

2356
01:58:33,440 --> 01:58:35,600
Speaker 4: right now. His passing yards is at two oh seven

2357
01:58:35,640 --> 01:58:40,120
Speaker 4: and a half. So wow, I don't know I'm running.

2358
01:58:40,120 --> 01:58:42,120
Speaker 4: I'm chasing my tailor. I don't think he's playing now.

2359
01:58:42,160 --> 01:58:42,760
Speaker 3: He might be playing.

2360
01:58:42,760 --> 01:58:43,040
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2361
01:58:43,120 --> 01:58:45,320
Speaker 5: If he plays one driving and leaves, you win that

2362
01:58:45,400 --> 01:58:47,920
Speaker 5: bet absolutely unless he gets two hundred yards on the

2363
01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:50,840
Speaker 5: first drive, which is obviously in bob right, I.

2364
01:58:50,880 --> 01:58:53,000
Speaker 4: Think there's only one way to play that prop is

2365
01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:55,200
Speaker 4: the under, and he might not play at all and

2366
01:58:55,240 --> 01:58:55,720
Speaker 4: it's you.

2367
01:58:55,680 --> 01:58:57,320
Speaker 5: Know, it's no energy, get your money back.

2368
01:58:57,400 --> 01:59:00,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'll go with under twenty one and a

2369
01:59:00,160 --> 01:59:02,560
Speaker 4: half in the first half. I just don't think Materia

2370
01:59:02,680 --> 01:59:05,400
Speaker 4: is playing like normal, and I think this is a

2371
01:59:05,480 --> 01:59:09,160
Speaker 4: rock 'em soccam type game. Give me, sorry, Rich, give

2372
01:59:09,200 --> 01:59:12,800
Speaker 4: me Nevada plus seven. Oh, now, the Aztecs, they could

2373
01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:15,640
Speaker 4: win this game, but Nevada plays good rush defense.

2374
01:59:15,680 --> 01:59:17,160
Speaker 3: That's what San Diego State wants to do.

2375
01:59:17,200 --> 01:59:20,000
Speaker 4: They want to run, run, run, run, and when Nevada

2376
01:59:20,160 --> 01:59:22,520
Speaker 4: is pretty good against the run, I'll take seven points.

2377
01:59:22,560 --> 01:59:25,840
Speaker 4: That's a lot in this matchup late late night, and

2378
01:59:25,880 --> 01:59:30,280
Speaker 4: I will break the tie. Give me those heski smash

2379
01:59:30,360 --> 01:59:35,200
Speaker 4: mouth yack right yards after contact, Missouri Tigers. Give me

2380
01:59:35,240 --> 01:59:38,400
Speaker 4: a plus three and a half against Bama. I think

2381
01:59:38,440 --> 01:59:41,920
Speaker 4: the bully gets bullied a little bit today Island today, Yeah,

2382
01:59:41,960 --> 01:59:45,760
Speaker 4: I like being on Jared Islands, right.

2383
01:59:46,280 --> 01:59:46,720
Speaker 2: That's right.

2384
01:59:46,760 --> 01:59:48,960
Speaker 3: Well, hey, everybody enjoyed the action.

2385
01:59:49,400 --> 01:59:52,240
Speaker 4: Lots of great stuff going on today, and we will

2386
01:59:52,280 --> 01:59:53,120
Speaker 4: reconvene that