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Speaker 1: Revere redly talks. Look at this now.

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Speaker 2: Tip to Tim. This is our life, this is our passion.

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Speaker 2: That's the spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas,

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we're back. It's Friday. It's your boy BC,

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Speaker 2: the American alpha on the ones and twos. Right, Brian Campbell,

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Speaker 2: They've done f up right. A red eye flight and

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Speaker 2: a low libido couldn't stop me. I'm back at it.

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Speaker 2: Morning Combat, the best fight talk show in the fight

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Speaker 2: talk game. You heard it right here. I'm wearing all

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Speaker 2: blacks so that you don't see how poor my complexion

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Speaker 2: is after not sleeping last night. But that's what it takes, okay,

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Speaker 2: and that's why I'm here Friday, October twenty second, twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty one. My co host is the best in the

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Speaker 2: world at what he does, being a cantankerous, amazing fight

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Speaker 2: analyst and a great dad by the way, that sometimes

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Speaker 2: gets lost in all of his extra extra extra curricular

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Speaker 2: Uh you know, you know, uh characteristics, right, flaws.

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Speaker 1: It's Luke Thomas high BC. You look. I can always

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Speaker 1: tell when you're poorly slept and washed because your your

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Speaker 1: Pepula pew intro is like, I mean, you barely got

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Speaker 1: that one, though, is welcome back time? What time was

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Speaker 1: your flight back from the West Coast?

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Speaker 2: I got in see the thing about red eye flights, Luke, Right,

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Speaker 2: And I'm no martyr here, I'm no hero, right, I

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Speaker 2: just I last minute flew to Los Angeles yesterday at

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Speaker 2: something you saw for the uh Dravante Davis Rolando Romero

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Speaker 2: showtime pay per view press conference at the Stables Center. Great,

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Speaker 2: great time, sad by all, Luke. More on that to come.

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Speaker 2: But I took a direct red eye home, which got

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Speaker 2: me in Hartford about five forty five am. And Luke,

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Speaker 2: you know those red eye flights, it's it's a little

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Speaker 2: bit of Russian roulette because if you get in the

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Speaker 2: sleep like a baby and you could steal a day. Right,

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Speaker 2: That's what this whole time hopping is. You could steal

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Speaker 2: a day. But if you don't sleep for whatever reason, Luke, choppiness,

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Speaker 2: you got a large, heavy set guy in the middle

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Speaker 2: seat next to you. Jet Blue doesn't have first class.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you've got you know, hurdles in your way, Luke,

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Speaker 2: you could done.

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Speaker 1: F up right, so you flew coach, is what you're

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Speaker 1: telling me.

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Speaker 2: I'd done f'd up, Luke. But uh, but I'm here

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Speaker 2: just the same because you know I have have I

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Speaker 2: have monster BD. I also have that that red light addiction.

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Speaker 1: Luke.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you turn the camera on. I'll be here all right,

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Speaker 2: So we're back at it. We do have a great

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Speaker 2: show today despite my limited abilities here. Uh, looking ahead

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Speaker 2: to a loaded weekend to come in MMA, A little

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Speaker 2: bit of look back at all things. The new hero

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Speaker 2: in this game, Roly Romero. I mean, look, can you

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Speaker 2: just give me a little tease at your reaction to

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Speaker 2: uh to Roly Romero stick yesterday. Please, Luke, please give

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Speaker 1: He's I think he's gonna get I think he's gonna

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Speaker 1: get hurt real bad. I said this to you. He

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Speaker 1: talks like a YouTube comment section. He just says borderline, nonsensical,

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Speaker 2: What half of Morning Combat in a way. No, look,

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Speaker 2: he's he's legitimately like I tried to figure this out

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Speaker 2: and we're like, you know, covered in millions of dollars

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Island boys. Anyone know the Island boys. You

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Speaker 2: see that meme going around Luke with those two dogs.

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Speaker 2: let's get to do it through a little bit of business.

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Speaker 2: All right? Uh luke, you got anything to say about merch?

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Speaker 2: I mean this ship is great, right.

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Speaker 1: the donkey ruder. Excuse me? Yeah, so, yes, these are

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Speaker 2: It's great ship there on Morning Combat Dot Store. Check

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Speaker 2: that out. Drug rugs on the way on the freaking way, folks.

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Speaker 2: Dead and Company, the fine bassist who was at Red

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it look it looked. You know, what do they say,

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Speaker 2: Luca look colder than a witch? Is titty? Is that

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Speaker 1: Which I don't quite understand what even that's supposed to mean,

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, you'll probably see more of that on fan

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Speaker 2: subs next week. All right, Luke, all that bonanza behind us.

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Speaker 1: Can we have your car title? Is that okay? Maybe

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Speaker 2: At least at least we can laugh about it, Luke. Right,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's like it's like those executives at Phillip

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Speaker 1: Right, look, I don't know if we killed anybody with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, damn show. I'll leave a five star rating on

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Speaker 2: Apple podcasts. Hey you make it funny, you may get

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Speaker 2: a fifty dollars gift card in your hands. So enough, bs,

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Speaker 2: the main BS of this show. The fights Saturday Night,

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Speaker 2: This has become nothing short of a soap opera, with

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Speaker 2: even I don't know, armchair quarterback here, You know, put

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday, Paulo Costa came out of the Attasianna fight

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Speaker 1: And then you know, obviously Atasignya taunted him after the fact.

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Speaker 1: a personal YouTube channel, I should say, and he kind

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Speaker 1: guys that's usually all that big on, like, oh, once

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Speaker 1: never regain that confidence. I've seen guys and ladies who

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Speaker 1: the reality that sometimes actually can happen. Now. I don't

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Speaker 1: know BC if it's happening here, but dude, this is

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Speaker 1: like Red Flag City where you come in way overweight,

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Speaker 1: you promise to make one to ninety five, so they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he did hop on the scale and he looked

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Speaker 2: I'm not speculating alcoholism here or something necessarily without knowing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot there. I mean, let's see how

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Speaker 1: I mean he got he got beaten, pilt like thoroughly

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Speaker 1: the problem, dude, I've said it before. Vittori's twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: Now is the time to beat Vittori. This is the

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Speaker 1: window before he reaches his physical prime and he really

430
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Speaker 1: begins to put all the skills together. This is it.

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Speaker 1: At of Sonya realized that get it done. Now, apparently

432
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Speaker 1: Coosta didn't get that message. He still might win. Of course,

433
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Speaker 1: we have to be cognizant of that fact. He does

434
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Speaker 1: have big power. But it's just a it's just a

435
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Speaker 1: it did's so many errors compounding the overall problem.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, could he erase a lot of those

437
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 2: with a knockout? Well, he could erase some, but this

438
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 2: has taken such more bizarre twist and turns it's it's

439
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,399
Speaker 2: gonna be tough to overcome this, Luke. As we look

440
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Speaker 2: at those betting odds that I mentioned, minus one eighty

441
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Speaker 2: Fiori plus one fifty five for Costa. How much does

442
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Speaker 2: the move to two five effect the strategies of this fight,

443
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Speaker 2: the performance of both guys in this fight.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing he misses. Well, he made weight,

445
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Speaker 1: by the way, two four and a half, so he

446
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Speaker 1: actually made with a little bit of a window there.

447
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:40,479
Speaker 1: He didn't actually make the cut, so I don't know

448
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Speaker 1: how drained he is. But at the same time, it's like,

449
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Speaker 1: why wasn't your weight lower? So if I'm Vittorri, I'm

450
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Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna press. Uh, you can't allow Costa to

451
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Speaker 1: back you up, and you can't unless you're really sophisticated

452
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Speaker 1: with your striking. And I do think, by the way,

453
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Speaker 1: Vittori has pretty good striking. I think it's gonna get

454
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Speaker 1: very good, probably a few years. But to answer the question,

455
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 1: I think it's probably the same kind of strategy. And

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Speaker 1: the reason why is the original strategy, which I'm going

457
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Speaker 1: to guess is backing up coast of putting against the fence,

458
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Speaker 1: wrestling him against the fence, and then getting him on

459
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Speaker 1: the ground if possible. That's already gonna be the thing

460
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Speaker 1: that's gonna take advantage of a guy who doesn't have

461
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Speaker 1: proper prep. And so you can just keep with that

462
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Speaker 1: if you need to. Might they go a slightly different direction.

463
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Speaker 1: Hafelo Cordero is a master strategist, so I suspect he

464
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Speaker 1: probably will if it need be. But I think if

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Speaker 1: he's putting Costa on the heels, has him in the

466
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Speaker 1: warning track, and is wrestling him against the fence, that

467
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Speaker 1: is very much a fight Vittori can and probably if

468
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Speaker 1: it gets to that point, should win.

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Speaker 2: But Tori is such a is there a nice way

470
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Speaker 2: to say this? A psychopath? When a coast a fighting

471
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Speaker 2: loop that I wonder if all this drama makes this

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Speaker 2: more of a of a shootout. I wonder if we

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Speaker 2: get a poor man's coast of versus Romero, which would

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Speaker 2: be fancy.

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Speaker 1: I think I think you're kind of asking a slightly

476
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Speaker 1: the slightly wrong question because you're talking about what changes

477
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Speaker 1: I mean, no, no, no, it's actually it's not the wrong question.

478
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Speaker 1: But let me just put it this way. You're talking

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Speaker 1: about what changes Vittori might make by virtue of what

480
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Speaker 1: he's getting with this opponent who appears to be unprepared

481
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: or something's wrong, right, But I actually think it's the opposite.

482
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Speaker 1: Let me give you an example. Look at their stances.

483
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Speaker 1: Costa stands orthodox, Vittoria is southpaw, So that means they're

484
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Speaker 1: gonna be open like this, which is gonna set up

485
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Speaker 1: any number of things, rear kicks, rear punches, whatever, but

486
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Speaker 1: it's also gonna make the near side leg of Costa

487
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Speaker 1: a lot. Well, I mean they're open, right, so I

488
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Speaker 1: mean as opposed to whatever, you get the idea, it

489
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Speaker 1: means that that near side lead leg of Costa is

490
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Speaker 1: going to be near him. I did a I have,

491
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Speaker 1: actually I've never filmed it, but I did a breakdown

492
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Speaker 1: in my work of the fight the second fight between Costa,

493
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Speaker 1: excuse me, the second fight between Vittoria and Adasignia. And

494
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Speaker 1: what you notice in that fight is they have an

495
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: open stance too, where Atta Signa switches, but he would

496
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Speaker 1: predominantly be in this orthodox stance. In the rematch, he

497
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Speaker 1: actually changed that a lot. Now I don't know why

498
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Speaker 1: he did that, but here's my hunch, My hunches that

499
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Speaker 1: he did that where even if he's still as close,

500
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Speaker 1: he's taking away that lead leg entry by switching his

501
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Speaker 1: stance to south paul. And therefore to get to the

502
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Speaker 1: lead leg, a guy like Vittori has to shoot across

503
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Speaker 1: not just literally lean over and pick up that leg.

504
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Speaker 1: So to answer your question, like, what changes would might

505
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Speaker 1: VCTORI make? I don't know, Probably not a whole lot.

506
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Speaker 1: But what Costa has to deal with are questions like that,

507
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Speaker 1: and the blueprint to an extent, to an extent has

508
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 1: already been laid. Did Costa do his homework? Did his

509
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Speaker 1: team prepare for that? Because if they didn't make those

510
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: kinds of adjustments to keep a guy like Vittori guessing

511
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Speaker 1: and having to work a little bit harder, it might

512
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Speaker 1: be a long eye. One other thing I want to

513
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Speaker 1: point out, average fight time BCEE for Marvin Vattori is

514
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 1: nearly sixteen minutes. He is used to going for long stretches.

515
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Speaker 1: Average fight time for Paulo Costa is just seven and

516
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Speaker 1: a half minutes. Now, partly that's due to him bulldozing

517
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Speaker 1: people who don't last very long, but Vittori typically doesn't

518
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: get bulldozed. So if this fight goes long, now what happens?

519
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: Remember I thought Romero won that fight against Costa, and

520
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: at a bare minimum he won that third round. This

521
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Speaker 1: one could get interesting if it goes long.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's just such a wildcard factor. Does this way

523
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Speaker 2: change given advantage to Costa or has this been a

524
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Speaker 2: training camp from hell and we are We're going down

525
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Speaker 2: that slide. So it makes an interesting betting equation, one

526
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Speaker 2: that I don't have the the right or confident answer

527
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Speaker 2: to lean in that direction. I do want to ask

528
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Speaker 2: you something that would seem off topic and ill place Luke,

529
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 2: but you know we do cover all bases on this show.

530
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Speaker 2: Because of how often Vittori gets memed online with comparisons

531
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Speaker 2: to Sloth from Goonies, Do you think he should avoid

532
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 2: that all together or just like do an Anthony Davis

533
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Speaker 2: unibrow and lean into it and come out to the

534
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 2: classic eighties hit The Goonies Are Good Enough by Cindy

535
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Speaker 2: Lapper on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta lean into it because the unibrow

537
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: from Anthony days tilting. But he has made it work

538
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Speaker 1: for him, so he has marketing opportunities behind it. Now.

539
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: Quite literally, I think, if I'm Vittori, I do one

540
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: Halloween or do I go all in on Sloth? I

541
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Speaker 1: get as close as I can, I make a huge

542
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: joke about it, and then I let the Internet do

543
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: what it does. And I think at that point they

544
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Speaker 1: might like, oh, he likes to laugh at himself. We

545
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Speaker 1: can move on now, We'll see.

546
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Speaker 2: Well, our producers want us to move on, so we

547
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 2: move on by doing your favorite thing, putting your face

548
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 2: in front of a camera and making a pick. Luke,

549
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 2: I'll jump in front of you and say this. This

550
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 2: does not make me feel good betting wise, I don't

551
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: know where to go, so it makes me want to

552
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Speaker 2: make a safe bet. How about Victori as a slight

553
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 2: underdog by decision that feels like a there's too much

554
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 2: batshit craziness around me. I'm expecting a war. What I'll

555
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 2: probably get is an oddly slow and tactical fight that

556
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: somehow ends up going the distance and Victori wins it

557
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: with wrestling, Luke, how do you like them? Apples?

558
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Speaker 1: I like Vittori as well, by the way, both of

559
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: their last fights were losses to Attasanya. But who prefer

560
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: for him to better? I would say Vittori performed significantly

561
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: better even if he had a bit of a shutout

562
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: there just the same. But look at some of the

563
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: other wins that a guy like Vittori has recently, Holland Hermanson,

564
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: Roberson and then previously to that Sanchez for the case

565
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: of Costa, he has the win ofver Romero, which is big.

566
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Speaker 1: The win over Hal is nice, but then Hendricks and

567
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: beanng Bochet, two guys who I'm not even sure are

568
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: an MMA anymore. So I would say actually that the

569
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: strength of schedule is stronger for Victoria. I think he's

570
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: got more ways to win. I think he's got ways

571
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: to slow down and drag the fight late. And again,

572
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 1: the weight cutting part is hard to know. It's like,

573
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 1: did going with the weight class save the fight? Yes?

574
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Speaker 1: Did it confer advantage upon Paulo Costa well relative to

575
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: cutting the weight? It certainly did. But Vittori already had

576
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: a gas tank and now he didn't have to cut

577
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 1: hardly any weight to make two hundred and five pounds,

578
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Speaker 1: so it probably is gonna help him a little bit too.

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Speaker 1: I like Vittori's chances here for sure.

580
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Speaker 2: Yeah, with you on that one, Lucas, we had to

581
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 2: up and down this card. There's not a lot to

582
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Speaker 2: talk about. What do you want to talk about? All right?

583
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Speaker 1: So if you look at the card up and down,

584
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Speaker 1: what's kind of nice? Rick Rick lenn Former, I think

585
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 1: World Series of Fighting Champion taken on Grant Dawson. It

586
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: should be a little bit fun. I got my eye

587
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: on that. Jessica Rose Clark is back, curious to see

588
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: which he has against Joscelyn Edwards. I think the one

589
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: that I'm probably most paying attention to is all the

590
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: way down at the very bottom. Jonathan Martinez taken on

591
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Speaker 1: Zviad lazi Ish Wheeley. I think, is how you pronounce

592
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: it or velly? I'm not sure. I don't speak Georgian,

593
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: but Zviad LAZISHVILLI I'm gonna say it that way. He's

594
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: actually a local kid out of this area he trains.

595
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: I think, God, what's the gym he is out of.

596
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: It's not Clinch Academy. It is forgive me. He's from

597
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: the Northern Virginia area. He is originally from the country

598
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: of Georgia. He's actually the reigning although now I guess

599
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: he has to give it up to go to UFC.

600
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: He got called in on short notice. He was a

601
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: reigning LFA bantamweight champion and he's undefeated. I looked at

602
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: some tape on the guy. He is a fucking stud man.

603
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 1: He can fight his ass off, and this is the

604
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: opener on the card. How far he will go on Mma.

605
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: Your guess is as good as mine when we talk

606
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: about top prospects. An undefeated Georgian who holds a belt

607
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: and perhaps the top feeder organization into the UFC. Yeah,

608
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: I got my eye on that kid for sure.

609
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: I'll be watching this Bruce Leroy fight closely at featherweight, Luke,

610
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: because at thirty three, it seems like Alex Casaris is

611
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 2: trying hard to turn that corner and not just be

612
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 2: a fun attraction. I mean, four straight wins, five of

613
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: his last six. He seems to be almost pulling like

614
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 2: a Jeremy Stevens later half of career. I'm gonna get

615
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: super serious and figure out the mistakes I've been making

616
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: and we'll see what I could do in this run.

617
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 2: So we'll see what he can do. Luke on Saturday

618
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 2: real quick against song.

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Speaker 1: Wu Choi, Zevilla Laza Shvilli Again, I'm sure I'm pronouncing

620
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: it wrong. Who's undefeated? He is out of Kaisen Mma.

621
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Speaker 1: Shouts to the folks at Kaisen MMA in Northern Virginia.

622
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: Shout out to them, Luke. Is there actually an MMA

623
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,719
Speaker 2: scene in the DC area, with the exception of your

624
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 2: bo Ryan Hall.

625
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, as I mentioned, there's Clinch Academy. The Yamasakis have

626
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: like eight or nine schools in the area. There's, of course,

627
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: you know, there's some controversy about it. But there's Lloyd

628
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: Irving schools. There is Kuys in m m A. There

629
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: is a bunch of top schools names.

630
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 2: You said those names, But I'm saying is that is

631
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: there a history of producing people born in that area

632
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 2: of you know, big time MMA talent.

633
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: Big time MMA talent. No people born in that area. Now,

634
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: as you know, probably the best boxer to come out

635
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: of here is either Mark too Sharp Johnson? Right? Am

636
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: I getting his name wrong? Too Sharp? What the fuck

637
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: is his last name?

638
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 2: Mark Johnson?

639
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Speaker 1: Too Sharp? What was his last name?

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Speaker 2: Johnson?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I couldn't remember, Yes, Mark Johnson. So he was

642
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: at this area. Lama Peterson came from here. He beat

643
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Speaker 1: him Erican controversially, but he had some weight class titles.

644
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Speaker 1: Those are probably the two best boxers that I know of.

645
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,239
Speaker 1: Mike Easton made to the UFC. Now you got this guy,

646
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: but he's natively born in Georgia. What I would say

647
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: is what you have now is on the grappling scene.

648
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: It deserves to be noted that the guy from Lloyd

649
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Speaker 1: Irvan in particular, some of the guys out of Crazy

650
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Speaker 1: eighty eight, who is an affiliate of there. They're actually

651
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: winning all the time now. But in terms of high

652
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: level MMA fighters, you see them good enough to make

653
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: it to the UFC pretty consistently. Winning at a high

654
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: level at the UFC has been something that has eluded

655
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: people from this area. So that's about what I would.

656
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 2: Say they're into, like their education and shit, you know.

657
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: And no, I don't think I don't. I don't think

658
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: that's the issue. I doubt that's the issue.

659
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Speaker 2: Would you say that you're the most successful in the

660
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: MMA space of native Indians.

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Speaker 1: You mean more than like chamat Car Sandu.

662
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Speaker 2: Yes, I think, isn't he a native Turanan or.

663
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Speaker 1: He's a lot more Indian than I am. Let's put

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Speaker 1: it that way, a lot.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to your folks. Let's transition to another great

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Speaker 2: MMA card We've got on Saturday afternoon, Moscow, Russia. Our

667
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 2: friends at showtime in Belatoor, Mma making the trip to

668
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Speaker 2: Mother Russia for Bellatoor two sixty nine and Luke. We

669
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: talked about the storylines coming in. I don't care where

670
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: you stand. Fador's coming back you kind of gotta see it.

671
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 2: I mean, you do. It's nostalgia. It's always a shootout.

672
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 2: It's I get you or you get me first. And

673
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: that's what we've got for the forty five year old

674
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 2: to heavyweight legend who says this is the penultimate fight

675
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: of his great twenty one year career when he welcomes

676
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: his hand picked choice, Timothy Johnson of the US, fresh

677
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 2: off losing that five round interim heavyweight title about d

678
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: Valentine Moldowski A closesh decision, A good performance from Johnson. Well, Luke,

679
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: he's going to enter here as the betting favorite. I

680
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: think we can guess that given his size, his wrestling

681
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 2: ability minus won sixty five against the the not the

682
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 2: hometown but the home country favorite in Fador Plus. Luke,

683
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: you and I were on CBS Sports HQ this morning,

684
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: and it's like, tune in for the first ninety seconds

685
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 2: because that's a fad Or fight, right. It's like he's

686
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: still quick enough and strong enough in an odd way

687
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,479
Speaker 2: to get you if you're not fully prepared, or if

688
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: you're Frank Maer and you get touched and you go,

689
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: all right, I'm gonna brawl. But the history of the

690
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: last ten year shows. As it goes past four five minutes,

691
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: it goes downhill quick. How much do you think the

692
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 2: home crowd the return to Moscow show Tom and bellachor

693
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Speaker 2: making this a thing? Boys booiez boy Booie's that's the word, right,

694
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Speaker 2: boye booie booeie. Do you know the word the booie

695
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: as a verb? Luke to lift? Right, it's like a lifeboat, right,

696
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 2: it's like a dinghy. How much do you think Mother Russia,

697
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Speaker 2: boyez fade or in this fight?

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Speaker 1: I mean it gave him the Fabio Maldonado win when

699
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: he was fighting in fucking fight nights a global fifty, right,

700
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: I mean he got that fight should have been stopped

701
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: like seven or eight times in Maldonado's favor. They just said,

702
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: fuck it, the fador dies, he dies. If he doesn't

703
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: he wins. And basically he found a way to win

704
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: via majority decision there, which is just unfathomable if you

705
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: watch that one live. But dude, just ask yourself a question,

706
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: what was the last time he beat a guy at

707
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Speaker 1: heavyweight who was remotely in their prime or even like

708
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Speaker 1: close to being ranked. I mean, how far back do

709
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: you have to go like Pat, I mean Brett Brett.

710
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: Listen to these heavyweights, heavyweights, chall sonin not a heavyweight.

711
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 1: Frank mere Long pasted it, Fabio Maldonado not doesn't even

712
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: count Jai Deep sing Noe Pedro hiszo in twenty twelve. No,

713
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: he was past it still, shi Jeff Monson passed it.

714
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: You have to go all the way back to a

715
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: winning Brett Rodgers. That was two thousand and nine. He's

716
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Speaker 1: two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 2: He took heavy punished in that fight Fadora.

718
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Speaker 1: And then lost three in a row after it.

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Speaker 2: So my point being that fight was a sneaky war Luke.

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Speaker 2: People forget. They forget.

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Speaker 1: Yes, everyone remembers the big punch at the end that

722
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: sat Rogers down, and for that they're like, oh, you know,

723
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: fad Or is the wind streak continues, right, But that

724
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: was a little bit dicey, and and it told us

725
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 1: what was coming after the fact with Verdum and Silva

726
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: and Henderson. Anyway, my only point being is like, this

727
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: is Timothy Johnson's fight to lose. I get that he

728
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: had to travel for this in a long distance. I

729
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: get that the hometown crowd is going to be big

730
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Speaker 1: enough fad Or in the biggest way they could, and

731
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Speaker 1: I get that there always could be some you know,

732
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Speaker 1: who knows what the commission might do in that part

733
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Speaker 1: of the neck of the woods. However, however, Timothy Johnson

734
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 1: is experienced at this point. He does have a good chin,

735
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: he can wrestle well, he can wrestle well against the fence.

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Speaker 1: He's much bigger than fad Or naturally, and I think

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Speaker 1: if he gets on top, Fador is in big trouble.

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Speaker 1: So I'm with you. Fador's speed early could always be

739
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: a problem. He's always been a hard hitter, but he's

740
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: got big looping punches. A guy like Timothy Johnson should

741
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: be able to manage that and should be able to

742
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Speaker 1: get the win.

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Speaker 2: Luke, Fador's twilight is very sneaky because you can go

744
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 2: as far back. Look he got he got caught against

745
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 2: verdu him and got submitted. Okay, yeah, the Rogers fight

746
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 2: before that was like a harbinger of the doom to come.

747
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: But really the Bigfoot Silver fight one of, to be fair,

748
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 2: one of the saddest as an MMA fan watching that

749
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: take place. That with that weight difference in Bigfoot just

750
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 2: pancaking him and sitting on his face, basically ground and

751
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 2: pounding him. That was ten years ago. That was the

752
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: sharp beginning of Fador's slide, his twilight, you know, his

753
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: last chapter. Yet I think we all thought like it

754
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: was done then for him to you know, go through that,

755
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: go through the war against Hendo and lose. But yet

756
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 2: in the past ten years he's actually eight and four overall.

757
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 2: He said, such interesting pockets of reinvention where like, you're

758
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: not really sure he's actually still all that good, but

759
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 2: he could catch you, now, could he catch prime guys?

760
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 2: No to your point, but do you think it's as

761
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 2: extreme now that we're talking about sort of this this

762
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 2: ark of Fador to go as far as what DC

763
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 2: did Daniel Cormier on his new debate show, which has

764
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: made headlines in the past twenty four hours, where he

765
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 2: basically said, look, I love Fador like you guys, but

766
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Speaker 2: if he came to the UFC in that two thousand

767
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: and nine to twenty eleven window when Dana and company

768
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 2: were trying to, like crazy to make that Randy fight

769
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 2: or even the brock Lesner fight, he would have been

770
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 2: average at best. Luke, when you hear that it's abrasive

771
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 2: but when you actually go back and begin with that

772
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Speaker 2: Brett Rodgers fight, is DC onto something?

773
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: No, he's not onto something at all. So if you

774
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: actually look up the rankings at that time, we can

775
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: I can tell you what they were in January of

776
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine in MMA. Now again you can

777
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: say the rankings were misplaced, but just listen to the

778
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: names in the top ten. Okay, Alistair Overem, which we got.

779
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: I would have loved to have seen it back then.

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00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: Gabriel Gonzaga, Tim Sylvia, Randy Gutor, brock Lesnar, Frankmere, Noghera, Barnett,

781
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: Arlawski and a Millionanco. Understand by the time we that

782
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: you even got a Noghera in the UFC, Fador had

783
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: already pasted him, I think twice, as a matter of fact,

784
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 1: he had already beaten him handily. And that's at worst

785
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: the number four guy in the world. And again you

786
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: have Tim Silvia at eight, and he beat him like

787
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: a drum like it was nothing. I mean, the idea

788
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: that he would be like, would he be the very

789
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: best guy in two thousand and nine if you come

790
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: to the UFC, I think that is very debatable and

791
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: probably not. I would have picked maybe someone else to

792
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 1: beat him average at best, he's already top five at worst.

793
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 2: Let me explain this. And yes, when he his last

794
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: you know big win, as we said, was Brett Rodgers

795
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 2: and he defended the Wamma Heavyweight Championship. Remember that ship, Luke,

796
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 2: Remember the Wamma Remember the Wamma pit or the bat

797
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 2: what pit? Remember that pit too?

798
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: That that was That was the Yama Pity Belt.

799
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: Butter Bean used to love that. Yeah, I'm o pay

800
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 2: that bastard. What I'm trying to say is the word

801
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: average is the problem in this DC debate. But if

802
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 2: I give you his his bullets that he was using

803
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: to form this opinion, he said, look, do I think

804
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: he could have beat Brock? Then yes, but you saw

805
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 2: what happened going life for death with Rogers. You saw

806
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 2: for Doom tap him. He saw Dan Hendo getting no

807
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 2: you know, slugfest with him and get a knockout. He

808
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 2: believes that Junior Do Santos and kaineve Alaskas, both in

809
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: their prime back then, would have been problems for him,

810
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: and outside of a Lesnar win, he does not see

811
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 2: fade or beating the upper early of the UFC now Luke.

812
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 2: That could be a little bit different than calling a

813
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 2: guy average. But dude, he did go life for death

814
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 2: with Brett Rodgers. So I just want to be like

815
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 2: fair in my fad or history here. I'm not on

816
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: the data side by any means, but I think it is.

817
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: I think it is very fair to question exactly how

818
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: good he was and how far he would have gone. Again,

819
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: to your point, right after that, he goes to Strike

820
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: Force and has a three fight losing streak, including but

821
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: not limited to losing to Dan fucking Henderson, who was

822
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: a great fighter, but at the time that was seemingly.

823
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: Away from him. Yeah, don't take that shit away from

824
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 2: Dan Handel. That's a great fight.

825
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: I'm not so it's maybe one of Dan Hender Henderson's

826
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: more incredible wins. All I'm pointing out is if you

827
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: want to say he wasn't the best, fine, you could

828
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: say he wasn't the best. Who was he top five

829
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: at worst? To call him average at best, it just

830
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 1: doesn't match the record at all. It's not a justifiable opinion.

831
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Speaker 2: It's now is that a Is that a corporate DC move?

832
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Speaker 3: Is that A?

833
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 2: Is that a like?

834
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean a little bit, I think DC likes Dana,

835
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: maybe he's influenced by him. And again, dude, there had

836
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: there was a long time. There's a long time, folksmen

837
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: don't remember this. There was a long time where and

838
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: also remember at the time that Fador was, you know,

839
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: changing the world for everyone in Strike Force, there was

840
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: a little known guy in Cormier. I have to see

841
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: exactly if their timelinees overlap, but I do believe that

842
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: Cormier was at least on the radar at some level

843
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: at a time when Fador was doing what he was doing,

844
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: and so he probably you know, there might be some

845
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: hard feelings exactly, but there was definitely an over rating

846
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: of fat Or for a certain time in his career.

847
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: That is not that's not controversial. If that's what DC means,

848
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: then he is one hundred percent correct. There was clear

849
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: overrating of him, especially through the before the Doom fight.

850
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: What I'm pointing out is at that time, even a

851
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: declined fade or which you can acknowledge he probably was,

852
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: was still capable of beating I would say most of

853
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: the top ten heavyweights, and in fact did beat many

854
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: of the top ten heavyweights in that particular ranking system.

855
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: I think you just can't look past that. You have

856
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: to acknowledge that part too.

857
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I'm with you on that. I thought that was

858
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: a fair way. He didn't need science, but it was

859
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: a fair way to get to that conclusion. Luke. Doesn't

860
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: matter what Fader would have done against Couture in two

861
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 2: thousand and nine. It matters what he still has the

862
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 2: chance to do against Timothy Johnson, a minus one six '

863
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: five favorite. As I mentioned, we have a poll on

864
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 2: YouTube with our fans, which is great again to move

865
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 2: that besogyny another bullshit off of that platform. And let's

866
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 2: get real here. Uh, fifty one percent believe Fador can

867
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: do it. So the question isn't can he still do it?

868
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 2: I mean it's you know, watch the mitter owned fight,

869
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 2: Watch watch these recent ones. He'll get you in the

870
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: first ninety seconds. You standing, You stand in the damn

871
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: pocket with that man, Luke still got a fastball, bro. Uh,

872
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: can you do it against tim Johnson under the under

873
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 2: this setting, Luke? Because if he does, it's gonna be

874
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 2: one of those rare, great feel good moments that we

875
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: get as fans and journalists where it's like shit, man,

876
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 2: I didn't expect that to feel that good. I mean,

877
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 2: the crowd's gonna go crazy, Luke. He probably read a

878
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 2: lot of Russian novels ahead of this to get could

879
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 2: he can't he pull this upset?

880
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: Luke? I think he could. And by the way, I

881
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: sent you that picture of Fador reading a book and

882
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: you completely ignored it.

883
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, so the shit out of that. Like

884
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: Fador did to my interview right after yours that I

885
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 2: was so dude, you have no idea how excited I was.

886
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 2: My goal was to become the first person to disarm him,

887
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: like really get him to chuckle through the interpretation, maybe

888
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 2: go way too far down roads you would expect me

889
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 2: to go. If I was coming in there looking to

890
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 2: go way too far, I would have went there, Luke.

891
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: Okay, for the art, it would have bombed anyway. The

892
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: point being is like minded. But the point being is

893
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: do I think fad Or could do it? I do

894
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: think he could do it. And if you look at

895
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: the odds, by the way, they don't have him as

896
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: like Tim Johnson is some grand favorite, as I think

897
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 1: you've ignowed. You read him before. I think it was

898
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: what minus one sixty five or something like that, So

899
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: it's not some huge difference between them, and I do think, dude,

900
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: if Timothy Johnson is not careful early fad Or, I

901
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: think still could put him away. It reminds me of

902
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: Vitur at the end of his run in UFC. He

903
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: was getting beaten. But what folks forget is he wasn't

904
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: even good for a round. But but the first three

905
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,959
Speaker 1: minutes of around he was a tough guy to still

906
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: beat for three minutes. He had good reflexes, he had

907
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: good speed, he still had a good power. He could

908
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: catch you, and so you had to kind of wait

909
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: it out a little bit, then take him down, and

910
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: then of course, you know, everything would fall apart thereafter.

911
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: But I don't know what the window is for fad

912
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: Or a round or two or whatever, maybe less, But

913
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: I do think that he is gonna be dangerous there.

914
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: It's just that once you get out of that at

915
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: that point, it's hard to see how he wins.

916
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean a rounder two, luke, come on, let's

917
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: give him ninety good hard seconds and then it's gonna

918
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,439
Speaker 2: get sloppy as ship.

919
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 1: Ninety good hard seconds is the story of my teenage

920
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: love affairs.

921
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, that's that's that's generous. Yeah, Luke, I do.

922
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 2: I am now, okay, come around. I'm intrigued. I'm excited.

923
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 2: I'm gonna see this shit. It's gonna it's gonna air.

924
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 2: What do you know what the main card starts. It's

925
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: it's afternoon our time on the East coast here, Luke

926
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 2: on Showtime.

927
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: I don't, but I'll look it up us. Why we

928
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: don't completely funck this up?

929
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I do. I don't want to do that, Luke.

930
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 2: So look, Timothy Johnson. I believe if he works to clinch,

931
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 2: if he wrestles, if he just waits, his chances are

932
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: gonna increase exponentially. We're not going to the full three

933
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 2: rounds here, say it, go ahead, Luke.

934
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: Main card starts at three pm in the East. Main

935
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: event approximately four to thirty pm in the East.

936
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: So only on Showtime, Folks on shore, thirty day free

937
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 2: right now on Showtime dot Com. Uh picktime, Luke. That

938
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 2: ninety seconds gonna be fun as shit. Johnson he'll taste

939
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 2: a bit of it, but he's gonna be smart enough. Luke.

940
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 2: Let's not forget like Johnson. Fuck good against Muldowski. He

941
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 2: pushed the pace. He never quit. He's got sneaky good

942
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 2: gas tank. In this turnaround in his career, he's much

943
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 2: more aggressive and can jab heaves bigger, longer than fad

944
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 2: Or Bro. You get this into the second round, we're

945
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: getting the Tim Johnson TKO. Fador is gonna get you know,

946
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 2: hammer punched on the ground and we're gonna do a

947
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: mercy stoppage.

948
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: Luke.

949
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: I think I've seen the future, and that's that's what

950
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: it tells me.

951
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: I can see a situation where Timothy Johnson gets cracked

952
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: with a big punch early and it hurt and he

953
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: stumbles a little bit by no means done, but you know,

954
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: damn good shot that got in. Let's see what happens.

955
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: And then the ref just calls it and the ref

956
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: just steps and it's like, fuck it, you're done, and

957
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: Timothy Johnson's like, what the fuck? I didn't do we

958
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: stopping this fight for like not a not blood didn't

959
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: go down nothing. I can see that happening. If that

960
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: doesn't happen, I don't see how Timothy Johnson loses sell

961
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: player right.

962
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 2: Look, there are a couple quick undercard storylines here. Vitelli Minikoff,

963
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 2: the former Bellatoor heavyweight champion, who, of course was stripped

964
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 2: famously due to inactivity. He's been inactive again. He's been

965
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: off for two years, thirty six years old. But he's

966
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 2: got just one loss. Luke, He's got a pretty sexy

967
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 2: record of twenty two and one overall. The only loss

968
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 2: of decision lost to Check Congo in twenty nineteen under

969
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 2: the belotour banner. The last time we saw him, he

970
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 2: knocked out Timothy Johnson in twenty nineteen. So you know

971
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 2: this guy's still got something here, Luke under the radar

972
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: coming in against veteran number eight ranked heavyweight, said Soma,

973
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 2: who is a plus two fifty underdog minus three twenty

974
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: for Minnikoff in his home country. You're looking for him

975
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 2: to remind people of what that name used to mean.

976
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: Luke. Yeah, Minikov's a beast. I don't know if he

977
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: still is a beast, but he has been for a

978
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: long time. I think he was the previous belt or

979
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: heavyweight champion in an era long ago. He beat a

980
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: different version, but he beat up Volkov. I thought I

981
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: could be wrong, some of my memory is fading at

982
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: this point, but I do believe that is correct in

983
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 1: any case, So I hat Soma, though not a chump, dude.

984
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: He's actually pretty good. He doesn't have nearly the amount

985
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: of experience that a guy like Minikov does, so that

986
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 1: is a little bit different. But I expect Minikoff to

987
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: do Minikoff things here. He can win, be a takedown,

988
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: he can win on the outside striking, He's got big power.

989
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: He's a good fighter. He's a very good fighter.

990
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, Luke, you echoed what I had mentioned earlier that

991
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: Minikoff did hold the Belatoor heavyweight title in twenty thirteen

992
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 2: when he knocked out Alexander Volkov defended again against Chech

993
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 2: Congo in twenty fourteen, but then didn't fight in Belatour

994
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: for a couple of years because he went to Russia.

995
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 2: They stripped him for inactivity the fight. The title was

996
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 2: vacant for a while, most recently. Not wins that'll change

997
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 2: your life. Outside of the Johnson Ko. He did stop

998
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 2: a very very very washed bigfoot Silva for some little

999
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 2: fade or revenge right there. Probably probably right all Russian

1000
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 2: guys they want to do that for fad or Probably, Luke,

1001
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,240
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to that one. Also Usman Normaga Metov

1002
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 2: thirteen and oh, the cousin of Habib the lightweight what

1003
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 2: is he two to? Oh so far and the belt

1004
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: or banner, Luke, He's gonna be taking on what looks

1005
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 2: to be a at least betting odds wise, a nice

1006
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 2: showcase fight here against heavy underdog Patrick Pyitila plus thirteen

1007
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 2: hundred usman. He seems so far, seems to be the

1008
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 2: goods Luke.

1009
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: He's very good. He's super good at lightweight. I think

1010
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: he's eventually going to be the bell to or lightweight champion.

1011
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: I mean that, I know he doesn't. I think it's

1012
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: between what Aquileia and Patrichy coming up here. But he's

1013
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: gonna from whoever wins that he's gonna take it from them,

1014
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: and I think he's gonna take it from him pretty easily.

1015
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: This dude, he's fire, is a borderline five hundred fighter.

1016
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: It would be a miracle if he win it won

1017
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: I mean, by the way, the miracles do happen in

1018
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: m MMA is wild and chaotic, but Usta Nimerkamdov is

1019
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: the genuine article, and he should defeat this guy easily.

1020
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 2: All right, all right?

1021
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,479
Speaker 1: Looking forward, by the way, and by the way, also

1022
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: on this card, a throwback name. Do you remember Karel

1023
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,919
Speaker 1: Sadilnikov from years ago when the Red Devil Fight Team

1024
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: and all that shit.

1025
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 2: I don't remember him.

1026
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: This is a guy they used to call baby fade

1027
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: or like the next fad Or, and he was from Russia. Yeah,

1028
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: and then he just kind of he turned out to

1029
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: not be very good.

1030
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 2: I'm into it. I'm into it, Luke.

1031
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: Okay, he's on the car too.

1032
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 2: Let's check that shit out, all right, Luca, we mentioned

1033
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 2: off the top of the show, and of course I

1034
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 2: was yesterday was Thursday. I was in Los Angeles on

1035
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: the rooftop of the Staples Center for a colorful press

1036
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 2: conference formally announcing the Sunday Night, December fifth showtime pay

1037
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 2: per view and the return of the One as he's

1038
00:49:58,160 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 2: starting to call himself these days. But you know, almost

1039
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 2: your Vonte Tank Davis twenty five and oh twenty four

1040
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 2: KOs titles in three way classes, some unfortunate headlines along

1041
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 2: with that outside the ring. But Luke, this is a

1042
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 2: very unique pay per view He's got himself into against

1043
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 2: unbeaten big time slugger, big time disruptor, agitator clown. I mean,

1044
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 2: you could go in a lot of ways after what

1045
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 2: we saw on his social media in recent weeks, but

1046
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 2: specifically at Wednesday's press conference. The only thing I really

1047
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 2: want to do here is just relive it, Luke, for

1048
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 2: anyone that didn't see it. Do we think Romero can

1049
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:39,280
Speaker 2: beat Davis? I don't know, Luke, But this is before

1050
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: we even throw this video. Would you admit? This is

1051
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,760
Speaker 2: one of those weird that things that like makes perfect

1052
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: sense in a weird way business wise. It's like it's

1053
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: like you ever tried peanut butter on a hot dog?

1054
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 2: And it's like, no, but what if I told you

1055
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,439
Speaker 2: that that peanut butter on a hot dog tastes really

1056
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 2: freaking good?

1057
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: Luke.

1058
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 2: This there's something like I can't turn away. I need

1059
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 2: to see what happens in this fight minute. There's like

1060
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 2: a unique sort of just like they're selling crazy. They're

1061
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 2: selling us some crazy, and I kind of like it.

1062
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 3: I mean this.

1063
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: It's almost like, in some ways, like kind of the

1064
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: opposite of like Paul versus Woodley. What I mean by

1065
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: that is we were like, okay, Paul versus Woodley, They're

1066
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: gonna sell the shit out of this upfront, but I

1067
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: don't know how good the fight is gonna be ended

1068
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: up being, you know, okay, but not great, you know,

1069
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: kind of ho home. This is the opposite. I actually

1070
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: don't know they're gonna sell the shit out of this,

1071
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: but I do think on fight night, as as long

1072
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: as that fight lasts, which by the way, A won't

1073
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: be very long, and B I can't say exactly how

1074
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: long it would be, though, it's gonna be been absolute,

1075
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: unequivocal bananas because dude, Roly Romero takes the kind of

1076
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: risks you're not supposed to, which sometimes we mean in

1077
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 1: a complimentary way. This time, I mean he's doing it

1078
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 1: because I think he's a bit of a donk, you know,

1079
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: which I say, could he could punch his ass off too,

1080
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 1: That's the other part. Right, he's got he's got really

1081
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: good power him. But he's dude, he's a weirdo. He's

1082
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: if he was your neighbor. You know, he's a weirdo.

1083
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 2: Uh dude, It's like, this isn't even the cliche. Is

1084
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 2: he crazy or is he crazy like a fox? Dude,

1085
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 2: He's a I was talking to Leonard allerbsday at CEO

1086
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 2: of Mayweather Promotions. We were both agreed he's just a

1087
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 2: different kind of crazy that we haven't seen the comparison

1088
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 2: sometimes is Ricardo on my Orga that you know, we

1089
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 2: loved him at welter he was the freaking universe welterweight

1090
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 2: champion before he became just a full time circus. But

1091
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 2: this is the kind of trash talk you would get

1092
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 2: from him only in Spanish and it would be ridiculous.

1093
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if like what the health fuels Rollie's confidence, Luke,

1094
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 2: it's like his trainer, by the way, whose name is

1095
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 2: Bullet Cromwell, which is incredible. He was like, yeah, we

1096
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 2: don't train for that boxing shit. I'm mixed together karate,

1097
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 2: street fighting, in power punching. That's what he actually said,

1098
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 2: and he goes, we don't train to win. We trained

1099
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 2: a murder. But look it wasn't in like let me

1100
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 2: launch this like SoundBite, so that like it was like

1101
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 2: literally like no, that's that's what the hell we're doing here.

1102
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,479
Speaker 2: So looke, before we throw to this probably glorious video

1103
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 2: of highlights, could you try to explain to me, like

1104
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 2: really Roly Romeiro's mental makeup, Like what kind of crazy

1105
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 2: is this guy?

1106
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: He's like a mix of Jesus. I don't know. I

1107
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 1: don't know exactly, Uh I think I think the fact

1108
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: that we called him like, you know, he's got this

1109
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: sort of he's got the I don't I don't know,

1110
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: I don't know how to describe it. He's got like

1111
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: the swag of a sixteen year old who doesn't know

1112
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: the world is about to come crashing down on him.

1113
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: But he's got like trash talk like the people who like,

1114
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: have you ever played have you ever done like call

1115
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 1: of duty and had some rando at like eleven year

1116
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: old talk shit to you. It's a little like, it's

1117
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 1: a little like that. It's like, I'm totally gonna fuck

1118
00:53:58,920 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: your mom.

1119
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 2: Man, Luke. If if cash me outside, how bauda if

1120
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 2: that if that woman was a fighter child be rolling

1121
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 2: Romero right, yeah.

1122
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: Only if she got hit in the fix with a

1123
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 1: frying pan first, like you gotta lose, you gotta loosen

1124
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: everything up in there a little bit before. Like he's dude,

1125
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: he's the synapses.

1126
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 2: With that said, though, he's gonna get real hurt, he's

1127
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: gonna get fourteen to know with twelve KOs he's gonna

1128
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 2: make this fun regardless. And Luke, I don't care what

1129
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 2: we say about the clown stuff from yesterday showing up

1130
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 2: in eighty degree weather where it was hot in La

1131
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 2: on a roof with that coat. But dude, he kind

1132
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 2: of won yesterday. I don't think he got in Germante's

1133
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 2: head like he thinks.

1134
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: He's yeah, he did not know I watched that shit.

1135
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,439
Speaker 1: First of all. First of all, let's say this out loud.

1136
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 1: You did a great job hosting that number one number two.

1137
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 2: No, he did not.

1138
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: He gets up there and says, Bram gonna knock you

1139
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: the fuck out, like seven times each one. Not original.

1140
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: And Tank gets up there. He's like, my man's got

1141
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: a fur coato. It's eighty fucking degrees out here. What

1142
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: are you doing right, dude? That's Roly Romero. He shows

1143
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: up to a press conference in eighty degree weather with

1144
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: giant fur clothing on. He's he's, dude, I'm telling you

1145
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 1: Tank is gonna do evil evil real quick.

1146
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 2: Roley came up to the to the daist and I

1147
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 2: was like, hey, Roly Man, great to finally meet you

1148
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 2: in person. He's like, I know you, I know you,

1149
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 2: and I'm like, no, no, I'm not really, but like

1150
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 2: you know, you know, great to meet you. A big fan,

1151
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 2: and he's like, thank you. I'm a big fan of

1152
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 2: me too, But like it wasn't in like I'm trying

1153
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 2: to make you laugh or trying to crack a joke.

1154
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 2: It was sort of like like he just realized in

1155
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 2: that moment, like yeah, he's fucking right, you're a fan

1156
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 2: of me.

1157
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 1: Like of course, you know he's got a little he's

1158
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,919
Speaker 1: tell me if this is true or not, and there's

1159
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: many reasons why this is not true. He's the closest

1160
00:55:55,800 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 1: thing to like Tony Ferguson in boxing, right something like that,

1161
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: where the trash talk is almost stream of consciousness. His

1162
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: is much less charming than Tony's. Tony's ends up being

1163
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 1: charming in a way because Tony's I think really trying

1164
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: to entertain Roly is just trying to say shit for

1165
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: you know, maximum effect. So if you add like it's

1166
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: a little Tony Ferguson, it's a little troll culture by

1167
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: the way, big time on that. And then you just

1168
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 1: mix in you know what you might say after you've

1169
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: been concussed or something, mix that all together, and.

1170
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 2: That's what Romero And feed that monster a gas station hotdog,

1171
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 2: and that's that's.

1172
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 1: Our no, no no, and then feed him. Then feed him,

1173
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: Like remember how Rampage Jackson went crazy driving his own

1174
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 1: monster truck because he was too high on energy drinks.

1175
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: Roly is like three energy drinks from that He's close.

1176
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 2: Rampage had a story with Ariel and Ariel's m and

1177
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 2: aour comeback that kind of disputes a lot of the

1178
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 2: facts of that story that I'm wondering why either I'm

1179
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 2: wondering why our Rampage doesn't tell the truth more often,

1180
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 2: or or what Luke tough to tell.

1181
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: I didn't hear what was the basic just of what

1182
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: he said. I didn't hear.

1183
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 2: That's one of his best friends. He thought was gonna

1184
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 2: commit suicide. So he had to get to that friend

1185
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 2: no matter what, and so he acted crazy, just not

1186
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 2: caring about police like intervention because he's so loyal and

1187
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 2: he had to get to that friend, and he would

1188
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 2: have done it again, and it was just misinterpreted by

1189
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 2: the media.

1190
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what to make

1191
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: about it. I don't know.

1192
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I'm willing to give

1193
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 2: him the band for the doubt all these years later, though,

1194
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 2: all right, Luke, We've did put a poll on our

1195
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 2: YouTube chat and fifty four percent of our listeners right now.

1196
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 2: Live listeners are p ones. Our people are motherfuckers right there.

1197
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 2: They believe that Tank Davis won the jousting on the

1198
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 2: microphone yesterday, Luke. They hired I don't know who hired him,

1199
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 2: but they hired a lot of security guards for yesterday.

1200
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 2: Maybe the canelo plant touch up got people ready, or

1201
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 2: maybe just this natural bad blood. But there were moments

1202
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 2: where I'm standing between those guys. I'm like, it's gonna

1203
00:57:58,040 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 2: be on about any second. Right now, I'm gonna be

1204
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,959
Speaker 2: Dave shot between John Jones and and Daniel Cormier about

1205
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 2: two seconds. But uh, let's go to the videotape of

1206
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 2: my favorite moment from yesterday.

1207
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 3: But I mean, you guys gonna see the semi finally

1208
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 3: knocked this this dwarf the fuck out. That's how it is.

1209
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 3: You hear that I'm gonna knock you the fuck out, Latm,

1210
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 3: you know it is. You're damn scared. What the fuck

1211
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 3: am I scared of you?

1212
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: Literally?

1213
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 3: Man, you a stupid fucking dwarf. Man, I'm telling you, man,

1214
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 3: I can't even mess with your fucking head. Can't you

1215
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 3: miss you with your head? It's so fucking big like

1216
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 3: this fucking big and your fucking little t rex ns man,

1217
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 3: my Dick's lunger than your fucking arms. Yeah, I'm gonna

1218
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 3: knock this chump the fuck out like that.

1219
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: Bro, tell me that's not an eleven year old kid

1220
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: taunting you on call of duty.

1221
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Luke, I don't care. I've said it before.

1222
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: You turn off the extra feet.

1223
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:14,439
Speaker 2: If that echo. Thank you. From here on out. Look,

1224
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 2: it may get gross and may go in some crazy

1225
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 2: directions beyond the pinata. I'm team Roly now. I'm not

1226
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 2: picking him to win the fight, but Luke, we need this.

1227
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 2: We need this type of uh. I mean I went

1228
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 2: back to the podium after you said that. I was like, yeah,

1229
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 2: thank you. I mean, like, what else do you say?

1230
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,919
Speaker 2: This is some this good shit, Luke, this good ship.

1231
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: Thank you Roi for the description of your penis and

1232
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: your threats of physical violence.

1233
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 2: All man, he's my favorite character in boxing right now,

1234
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 2: Thank you Roi. We'll see this fight Sunday night, December fifth. Hey,

1235
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 2: he's got a puncher's chance.

1236
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: Luke, listen, you can take Roly is a character. He's

1237
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: going to do his best to promote this fight, and

1238
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: you can't deny this. The guy can hammer. He punches

1239
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 1: very very very hard even for boxing standards. He and

1240
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: reek and really thump. But here's the problem, soaking Tank

1241
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: and I'd actually say Tank is the harder puncher of

1242
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: the two and the far dude, Tank is going to

1243
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 1: fuck him up. It's going to be okay. He called

1244
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: down the thunder. I mean, be prepared if.

1245
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 2: You what happens. And I think you know, betting wise,

1246
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 2: it's that's gonna be the most likely scenario. Like everyone,

1247
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 2: all promoters, Floyd Mayweth, Everyone's like, it's Fice not going

1248
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 2: the distance. We know that. But if Roley ends up

1249
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 2: getting to that point, he will have willingly thrown himself

1250
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 2: into that point. I mean, I think that's the fuel

1251
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 2: of what you're saying, Like he's going for it, Luke,

1252
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like, so this is gonna

1253
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 2: be uh, it's some explosive shit. It's my kind of fight.

1254
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Let's keep it moving. We got

1255
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 2: real boxing as well, Luke. On Saturday night, the folks

1256
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 2: at the UH at the ESPN Top Rank Side look

1257
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 2: giving us a fight between the two best one hundred

1258
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 2: and thirty pound boxers in the world with an interesting

1259
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 2: storyline coming in. Maybe the lack of trash talk is

1260
01:00:57,880 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 2: I don't know, is keeping it from the headlines. But

1261
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 2: we got a good fight when Semprifi Never Die, the

1262
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 2: Fighting Marine Jammel Herring defends his one hundred and thirty

1263
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 2: pound title against one of the rising potential future stars

1264
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 2: in the sport. Former fatherweight champion now looking for a

1265
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 2: title in a second weight class, Shakur Stevenson. Luke Stevenson

1266
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 2: a monster betting favorite. Let's just get that out in

1267
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 2: front minus seven hundred against the plus five hundred Herring.

1268
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 2: I can get into that in a minute, but I

1269
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 2: think we all expect this fight to potentially be closer

1270
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Speaker 2: than that in theory at least you know when they

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01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 2: start off. But the interesting story is that you know

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01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 2: they kind of hang in the same circle, meaning that

1273
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 2: Stevenson is, you know, the mentor mentee relationship with Terrence,

1274
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 2: Bud Crawford is in that camp all the time. You

1275
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 2: see them clonding around all the time, you know, laughing

1276
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 2: it up, which is great because you never see Bud

1277
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 2: Crawford laugh ever. So that's like the only time. And

1278
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 2: Bud's trained by Bowmack, Brian McIntyre, who is the trainer

1279
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 2: of Jamel Herring. So they've had to put this friendship

1280
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 2: aside because they knew this business was coming. But you

1281
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 2: can't write off Jamel Herring. Just when we thought after

1282
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 2: that Deq went over what was it Jonathan Gonzales couple

1283
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 2: of years back, we thought maybe he milked the headbutts

1284
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 2: he came out and knocked out and retired Carl Frampton.

1285
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Speaker 2: So Luke's an interesting bit of business we got on suray.

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Speaker 1: I like this fight. This is maybe the fight outside

1287
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 1: of the main event for UFC I'm most looking forward

1288
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 1: to all of this weekend. Shaquer Stevenson is a guy

1289
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: you put me onto a while ago. I've not seen

1290
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: him take on an impressive opponent until this point. Again,

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01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he hasn't, but from the point which

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01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,439
Speaker 1: you introduced me to him, this has been the first

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01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: time I've been like, Okay, here we go. This is

1294
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: what I've been waiting for here now. I still think

1295
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: Stevenson is the guy to who is the better of

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Speaker 1: the two. I think he's slicker. I think he's frankly

1297
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: a little bit smarter. He's sort of the young up

1298
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: and comer against not I al want to say the

1299
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: fading guy in Herring, but you know, the sort of

1300
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 1: older dog who has more or less all the tricks

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01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 1: he's going to have. The thing for me is for

1302
01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 1: Hering to really beat Stevenson, he needs a little bit extra,

1303
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: I think, more than what he has. I think he's

1304
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: going to try and make this a chess match, real

1305
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 1: tactical duel. But I think if it comes down to that,

1306
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 1: a guy like Stevenson is gonna get the better of

1307
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: the two. I would actually prefer this. I love the fight,

1308
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: and I think it's winnable for Semper five. But what

1309
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,439
Speaker 1: I mean to say is he's going to play into

1310
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: a style where he's good but not quite as good

1311
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: as Stevenson, Whereas what I think would be a more

1312
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 1: interesting style matchup BC. I wonder if you agree, is

1313
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 1: something like a Sean Porter ish type of fight. A

1314
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: guy who can really bully Stevenson and really physically make

1315
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: him work and dig to the body and have it,

1316
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 1: you know, finding a way to get him off of you.

1317
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 1: I think a guy like Herring is almost going to

1318
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: be willing to accommodate certain kinds of fighting because he

1319
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 1: does well there. But Stevenson's better there, so I'm curious

1320
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 1: to see what Herring does if he can to make

1321
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 1: up that difference. But it's a great test for Stevenson.

1322
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: It's a wonderful fight for the weekend. I'm really excited

1323
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Speaker 1: about it.

1324
01:03:58,200 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like I said what I said about the

1325
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 2: betting odds coming in because we see it closer on

1326
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 2: paper storylines, ability wise. But then at the same time

1327
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 2: you understand why those betting odds are there because Shakur

1328
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 2: Stevenson is a sublime talent the handspeed and foot speed

1329
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 2: and IQ even if he doesn't have the same experience

1330
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 2: as the wily veteran, the thirty five year old Herring.

1331
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 2: I mean, look there, it's just jumping through the screen.

1332
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 2: The only drawbacks on Shakur outside of some outside the

1333
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 2: ring issues, has been that, you know, we're not sure

1334
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 2: does he have legitimate, big time punching power that can

1335
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 2: carry him up through the weight classes. And he's had

1336
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 2: a couple once in a while, boring ones. His last

1337
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 2: fight against Jonathan was knock Untila Looke, that absolute slugger.

1338
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people that thought once shakurr in April,

1339
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 2: I think when they fought once. He tasted that power early.

1340
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 2: Even though he scored a knockdown that you know, he

1341
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 2: kind of wanted to go into that shell box from

1342
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 2: the outside mode. It killed the entertainment value of that fight,

1343
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 2: and it killed the idea that that was gonna be

1344
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 2: a big, you know, jumping off point in a new

1345
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 2: weight class for Shakur. But look, the thing is kind

1346
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 2: of like Terrence Crawford, right the default if he has

1347
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 2: to go to that, I don't know if anyone could

1348
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 2: beat him in a pure boxing match, which is what

1349
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 2: you're saying. If Herring tries to stand in there, even

1350
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 2: as a clever counterpuncher, you can't play chess with this guy.

1351
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 2: You're gonna lose, and you're gonna lose badly. And that's

1352
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 2: why the odds are the way they are. But to

1353
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 2: your you know, options of should he fight like a

1354
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 2: Sean Porter, I don't think he has that same motor

1355
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 2: or even physical size. In a lot of ways, I

1356
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 2: think what makes Jamel Hering good is we forget that

1357
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 2: he's got like that great amateur background. He fought in

1358
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 2: the Olympics, you know, around two tours of duty in Iraq,

1359
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 2: and although we've seen Okay, performances, we have seen him

1360
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 2: dial it up to another level. He's gonna have to

1361
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 2: go to the body. He's gonna have to find some

1362
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 2: way to slow this down. I'd like to see some

1363
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 2: veteran tricks to your point. I like to see a

1364
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 2: little you know, blurring of the rules. I'd like to

1365
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 2: see holding fighting on the inside, a lot of that stuff.

1366
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 2: But I don't know if he has that same motor

1367
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 2: to try to pour it on him like a Sean

1368
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 2: Porter would. Maybe that's why they're this wide in the end.

1369
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 2: But Stevenson has yet to give us that like one

1370
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 2: performance where we're like, okay, I see the young Floyd.

1371
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:08,479
Speaker 2: Now it's like I see it, I feel it a little.

1372
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 2: I do think he's a future pound for pound number one,

1373
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 2: but he hasn't done that yet against a big name

1374
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 2: where it's just overwhelming, where you know, Mayweather against Diego

1375
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 2: corralis as an example where you're just like, oh, holy shit,

1376
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 2: this guy's at a completely another level. The odds tell

1377
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 2: you that he can be that guy that he probably

1378
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 2: you know, is that guy. He just hasn't had it

1379
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 2: activated yet, Luke. Maybe it'll take Harring having some kind

1380
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 2: of success that we don't see to activate that.

1381
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:42,479
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I I still think that this is gonna

1382
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 1: be a question of it's gonna end up being more

1383
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: of Stevenson's fight because I think Herring thinks he can

1384
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 1: accommodate that and win. I think Herring is going to

1385
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: have to do something here that I don't think I've

1386
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 1: ever seen him do, maybe like a little bit. But

1387
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 1: at the same time time, if Stevenson is at all

1388
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: unprepared or sleeping on him, or takes rounds off at times, whatever,

1389
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,439
Speaker 1: it could get a little bit interesting. In other words,

1390
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 1: this is to me Stevenson's fight to lose, and it's

1391
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 1: a style that should be accommodating to him. But it

1392
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 1: is also difficult enough of a challenge that overcoming it

1393
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 1: kind of tells you what his level might be. But

1394
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 1: I want to see what the weaknesses are that show

1395
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 1: up through the course of this. This is not the again,

1396
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: I don't mean Sean Porter specifically. I mean someone who

1397
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 1: could fight like that, really mess him up, get in

1398
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 1: his face, rough him up, you know that kind of thing.

1399
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 1: Just the Herring's not that guy. He's gonna try and

1400
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 1: outslick him. But of the slickness factor, Stevenson is the better.

1401
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 2: Have you ever talked to Jamel Hearing about marine life, Luke?

1402
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: I have, Yeah, we have, we had. We've had a

1403
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: couple of conversations about them.

1404
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 2: Oh I find I ended up calling a couple of

1405
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 2: fights with him at West Point, New York for the

1406
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 2: NBC Sports Ring City USA card. He was like the

1407
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 2: guest analyst, Luke. He's smartest is all hell. He's actually

1408
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 2: a very good podcaster. I think he's gonna have a

1409
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 2: career when his boxing career is done. He's very articulate

1410
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 2: in putting and putting the fine arts together like yourself.

1411
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, he actually did. Him and his coach. I don't

1412
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 1: know if you know this shouts to BJJ fanatics. I

1413
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 1: talk about them all the time. He and his coach.

1414
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: It might be Bowmack, I don't I don't know who

1415
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 1: it was. Is Bomack like super Fat?

1416
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah.

1417
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: So he and Bomack actually have a whole series on

1418
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 1: BJJ fanatics on the job and then watching Herring go

1419
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 1: through and talk about all the different phases and ranges

1420
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 1: and purposes and blah blah blah. It's actually, I think

1421
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 1: the most comprehensive thing i've ever seen on the jab

1422
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 1: and he and his coach go right through it like

1423
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 1: it was nothing. Like he's obviously dude. Listen, Stevenson's a

1424
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 1: special talent, right, we should we should say that. But

1425
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 1: Herring is an accomplished, gifted, hard working and I think

1426
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 1: well studied boxer. To beat a guy like that, you're

1427
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:56,640
Speaker 1: gonna have to be special. We think Stevenson is. We'll

1428
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 1: see tomorrow night.

1429
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 2: Luke loved your little silence of the line shot out

1430
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 2: there when you're basically like, oh, waders she from big

1431
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,839
Speaker 2: fat person. Yes, she's.

1432
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 1: Dude. I mean he was holding myts like there was

1433
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 1: one point where he was holding mits and he had

1434
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 1: this big ass. But I'm sure he's a great trainer.

1435
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:16,599
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to clown him, especially me. I got

1436
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 1: no room to talk, but I'm just saying he had

1437
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 1: he had his giant, big ass belly and there's one

1438
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: time where he was holding his focus mits on top

1439
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 1: of them like this. Yeah.

1440
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Max your personality. I'm a big fan of

1441
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 2: that guy. He's solid, yes, but.

1442
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 1: His his his fight IQ through the roof.

1443
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, what do I see in the end? That

1444
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 2: speed different? And Jamal you know Herring's not slow, but

1445
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:42,679
Speaker 2: this this Shaker Stevens like a flash. If that becomes

1446
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 2: a problem early and Stevenson's able to hit uh, you

1447
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 2: know Herring and stay away from getting boxed in. This

1448
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 2: has Stevenson by wide decision written all over. It's what

1449
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,719
Speaker 2: it is, Luke, all right, that's what it takes. Okay,

1450
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 2: you want to make a bet on this, you gotta go,

1451
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 2: you gotta go Stevenson by decision.

1452
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 1: I agree. I think that's the right call. I will

1453
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 1: put my money on him. By the way, apparently our

1454
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 1: viewers on YouTube sixty seven percent to Stephen Shaker Stevenson,

1455
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 1: so should be fun.

1456
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, thank you to our interactive p ones.

1457
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 2: They're taking Look are they are they watching us live

1458
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 2: because our show is so greater because they ain't got

1459
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 2: you know, terms of endearment, nothing else to.

1460
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 1: Do, Luke, like Mayo, naise I got no where roams

1461
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:27,640
Speaker 1: to go? That guy, Yeah, that's it's there a little bit.

1462
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 2: If that's the case, I still welcome them in, Luke.

1463
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 2: I love these people.

1464
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: Listen, we'll take in. Feed us your give us your tired,

1465
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,719
Speaker 1: your poor, your huddled masses yearning to be free.

1466
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 2: We'll give them that, MK, we'll be their huckleberry. Yes,

1467
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 2: all right, Luke, quick hitters to close. It's not on

1468
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,640
Speaker 2: this paper and I probably failed not sending in the

1469
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 2: way and shot to our producers. But Luke, how fricking

1470
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 2: psyched are you for this? Mario's Janowski mm a return

1471
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 2: against that matchive guy? Do you know the guy's name?

1472
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:07,680
Speaker 2: And what the what the backstory is here? Lucas, this

1473
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 2: looks like sloppy great stuff written all over it.

1474
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find the guys. Yes, I have here.

1475
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 1: It's Pujinowski, who they call Pugin. By the way, I

1476
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 1: think five time world's strongest man. I think that's right,

1477
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 1: at least.

1478
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 2: Four strong as shit, Luke, there's no question.

1479
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: About he's strong as what they the kids call it.

1480
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,640
Speaker 1: Strong as a motherfucker, I believe is the word. Uh.

1481
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 1: He's taken on bombarder Bombardier, which is similar to the

1482
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 1: drink I have, which is the Bulevardier.

1483
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 2: But anyway, he is fucking huge, just large mammal, just

1484
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 2: one of the largest people of all time.

1485
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so basically their combined weight for the way,

1486
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 1: and it is almost six hundred pounds, So that's gonna

1487
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:49,679
Speaker 1: be fun.

1488
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 2: That's dude.

1489
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 1: KSW is The KSW is the closest thing to Pride

1490
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 1: that we have in the modern era by far.

1491
01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 2: That's that's true. Pride never never Die. Were you a

1492
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 2: big morol guy in your Pride watching days?

1493
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 1: Sure of course he did. He didn't just do Pride,

1494
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 1: He did Pride Bushido, which was like their sort of

1495
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 1: up and coming system as well. You know, dude, Moro

1496
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 1: had the call and when random and knocked out crow Cop,

1497
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 1: which was inconceivable at the time, Guy avent random man

1498
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 1: has just knocked out America Crock would be that whole thing.

1499
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 1: By the way, your weights Pujanowski two sixty, Bombardier three

1500
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 1: twenty seven, Yes, wow.

1501
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh by the way, Luke, there was some like

1502
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,680
Speaker 2: one championship kickboxing fight that didn't make our have you

1503
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 2: seen this year on Monday? And people were like, yo,

1504
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 2: I subscribe from this ship. You know what I'm saying.

1505
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 1: I know they're not going to do that. They're not

1506
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 1: going to do that. They're just lying.

1507
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 2: But look I didn't I didn't know about that.

1508
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 1: We we we we actually fucked that up. We actually

1509
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 1: fucked that up. We should have had that. So that

1510
01:12:56,840 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 1: was Georgio Petrosian, who lost, who is maybe one of

1511
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 1: the best kickboxers of our era, certainly enormously accomplished, and

1512
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 1: he's been beaten before. I think he's even been stopped

1513
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 1: with strikes before. But that was not only a spectacular ko,

1514
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 1: but I think widely unexpected. We probably should have had

1515
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 1: it somewhere on the show. We fucked that one up.

1516
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Luca, this is not a Risen moment all

1517
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 2: over again. But by the way, I actually was excited

1518
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 2: for that, that Risen card. It's just, you know, our

1519
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 2: our jokes between each other got out of control that time.

1520
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 2: Did I say that right?

1521
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 1: I don't even know how you pronounce it, but I

1522
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,560
Speaker 1: will say this. Sometimes we make errors. We got to

1523
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 1: acknowledge him. That was one of them. We probably should

1524
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 1: have included that.

1525
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a narrative, was the wrong narrative? All right?

1526
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 2: All right? Luke, the are the Italian artist. No, not

1527
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 2: not Cristo's Cristo fos aka webscream Dad of the Year contender.

1528
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 2: By the way, Francisco Faccinetti has officially filed assault charges

1529
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:56,440
Speaker 2: on Connor McGregor.

1530
01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 1: Luke, your thoughts, dude, our boy webscream hit us up

1531
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 1: and was like, did he write you about this? He

1532
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 1: wrote me he was saying that, like in Italy this

1533
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 1: is front page, major, major, major news. I mean, I

1534
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 1: guess who is this?

1535
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 2: Facinetti characters? He liked the Jake Paul of Italy or

1536
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 2: is he like legit is this?

1537
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 1: Like I don't know exactly. What all I can say

1538
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 1: is my understanding is he is very very famous, all

1539
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 1: right in Italy And h dude, if he files charges,

1540
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 1: like what is Connor supposed to do? Is can he

1541
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: never go back to Italy because like, if you leave

1542
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 1: the country and then you fly back into the airport,

1543
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna lock you up, at least if

1544
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 1: I guess. I don't know the Italian justice system. I

1545
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 1: don't know what they're gonna do. But dude, it's maybe

1546
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 1: there's more lakes that we kind of thought. He just

1547
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 1: you know, stole on a guy in a party and

1548
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 1: everyone just you know, gets mad about it. Maybe he'll

1549
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 1: face some consequences.

1550
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, I never considered it's weird

1551
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 2: when McGregor has infractions, maybe because so many of these

1552
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 2: infractions have been more stupid than troubling, But we are

1553
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 2: at a sort of troubling number at the very least

1554
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 2: of them when you add them all together. I never

1555
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 2: considered like he would become a completely potential off the

1556
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 2: rails like crazy Tyson Era run to him, like I

1557
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 2: always talk, these are aberrations, These are you know, these

1558
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 2: are like, yeah, is he a dirt hole underneath it all? Probably?

1559
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 2: But uh, these are whatever. You know, he'll recapture his

1560
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 2: stardom a company. Now. I'm like, I don't know, Luke,

1561
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 2: this this might be the direction he's headed full time.

1562
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 1: So do you think if he fights Diaz a third

1563
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 1: time he bites his ear?

1564
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, under the under Golden Boy MMA banner. Yes, that'd

1565
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 2: be great, that'd be good, fantastic.

1566
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, He's I don't do He's he's lost right now.

1567
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 1: So we'll see.

1568
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 2: He does have a key to the city of Miami

1569
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 2: at least.

1570
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:49,719
Speaker 1: Luke, do you think that key works on any door?

1571
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 1: It's a no, no, no, no, Luke, It's probably is

1572
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 1: there any Is there some like Illuminati door that you

1573
01:15:57,800 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 1: get to open with that thing and then you get

1574
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 1: to go to parties with as on Hell?

1575
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say that there's a vault of

1576
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 2: cocaine somewhere that that key unlocks. That's about it.

1577
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which in which case I'm quite jealous of

1578
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 1: that key.

1579
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:12,720
Speaker 2: Speaking of Connor, look I said this to you. I

1580
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 2: popped for it. You were like, get this shit away

1581
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 2: from me. Did you see that meme Tony Ferguson put

1582
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 2: out that essentially like, let's Connor, let's fight. It's not

1583
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 2: this is what do you got?

1584
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 1: Well, I have an update. I have an update. S

1585
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 1: haorry to cut you off, but I do have an

1586
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 1: update I think you will like. During the course of

1587
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 1: the show Nay. Ten minutes ago, Nathan Diaz tweeted a

1588
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 1: picture of Tony Ferguson holding the belt with no commentary. Now,

1589
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you Connor's got his whole leg issue,

1590
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 1: and who the fuck knows when he's even gonna be ready,

1591
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 1: and maybe he goes to Italian prison. I don't know

1592
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 1: a little bit off the radar, but Nate's looking for

1593
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 1: a fight. Let's like the lu Kate one has fallen

1594
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 1: through for whatever reason. Tony, I don't know how long

1595
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 1: he's been out. I have to go and double check.

1596
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 1: But if he's ready, I gotta tell you that is

1597
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 1: two guys over thirty five. I liked those pairings a

1598
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 1: lot more. What do you think?

1599
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the shit out of this fight. This

1600
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 2: is perfect. It does fall in line with Nate's cryptic

1601
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 2: tweets about a December return in some form. Oh my god.

1602
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:15,560
Speaker 2: So what I was gonna say is that it's not that, like,

1603
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:17,639
Speaker 2: it's not that this is the first time we considered

1604
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 2: Ferguson Connor. In fact, after Connor's most recent loss, it

1605
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 2: was sort of like, well, that one makes the most sense.

1606
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 2: But maybe it's just with Connor's slide in the public

1607
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:29,680
Speaker 2: eye the last few months, with the recovery videos and

1608
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,640
Speaker 2: just the bad pr and tweets and all that. I

1609
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 2: don't know. For some reason, I like this fight more.

1610
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 2: I feel like this is like the perfect scandalous, old guy,

1611
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 2: sneaky action fight without going too gross into any kinds

1612
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 2: of wrong directions. It's like, this is where they're at,

1613
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 2: both of them, so let's just match them, and god,

1614
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 2: would that fight be bat shit crazy? But Luke, if

1615
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:51,760
Speaker 2: Nate Diaz Tony Ferguson first is not only more realistic

1616
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 2: but happening, Good lord, that's fun. That's really freaking fun.

1617
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 2: That's on in a way that that lawler knew to

1618
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 2: me before, during, and after, wasn't Luke.

1619
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, and also remember there maybe maybe a

1620
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 1: guy like Tony likes the Conterfi a little bit more

1621
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 1: because Connor's a somewhat bigger name, but also has some

1622
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 1: liabilities on the ground. This one from a fans perspective,

1623
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 1: I don't know if I will call it even on

1624
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 1: the ground, but certainly Nayda has not a slouch on

1625
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 1: the mat and certainly William to exchange with you on

1626
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 1: the feet. I mean, that's just got all action all

1627
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 1: over it in every way and pretty competitive, I think, right,

1628
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 1: don't you think that's a competitive fight?

1629
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this almost like I know you're in just

1630
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 2: scoff at this, but this almost makes me wish like

1631
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 2: the BMF could still be a recurring thing. I know,

1632
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 2: Nate lost to Jorge, so it doesn't make a ton

1633
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 2: of sense. And I know you're just gonna be like,

1634
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 2: fuck the BMF, enough with this shit. I don't know this.

1635
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 2: If you just branded this shit like BMF, you have

1636
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 2: barbed wire in the in the graphic, Luke, I don't know.

1637
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:54,599
Speaker 2: This just kind of like if you were ever gonna

1638
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 2: do something crazy in the UFC and put like a

1639
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 2: chair in the middle of the octagon for a special fight.

1640
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 2: Inspectither too old savages go out there and invent ways

1641
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 2: to finish each other with this. We're gonna we're doing

1642
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 2: street fights now up in the octagon. This would be it.

1643
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 1: Luke, dude, you're the you're the people in charge of

1644
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 1: squid game who just leave the dinner knives at the table.

1645
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 1: You don't get that reference.

1646
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 2: Don't really get that reference, Luke.

1647
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 1: I don't stop Asian hate BC.

1648
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah no, I I I yeah, Well enough enough, I'm

1649
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 2: not going there anymore, all right, Luke h. We also

1650
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 2: have Yon Blahovich who will be in the main event

1651
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 2: if you have two sixty seven that coming up free

1652
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 2: Abu Dhabi afternoon pay per view against Glover to Shia.

1653
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 2: Luke Blakhovich has said, I don't have a where he

1654
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 2: said it here. Maybe he told that frenchman Shock Majory.

1655
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:43,719
Speaker 2: I don't know, Luke uh.

1656
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:45,719
Speaker 1: Blood frenchman from Tehran.

1657
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:50,639
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, by the look he's that guy's

1658
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 2: good on camera. That guy's not bad.

1659
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 1: He's I've been waiting for someone to come along doing

1660
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 1: what he's doing he's he's doing what we call paying

1661
01:19:57,680 --> 01:19:59,639
Speaker 1: his dues. But he's got bigger things in his future

1662
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah.

1663
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I don't think he though, I don't think he.

1664
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 2: I don't think he. Fuck so the guy, look, I mean,

1665
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 2: come on, it's not happening.

1666
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:08,680
Speaker 1: All right. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if he's

1667
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 1: living in the no fucking section, but he's probably not.

1668
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 1: You know, Dan Blazier in either.

1669
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 2: He's no Mike Bone on an airplane. All right. Uh looke,

1670
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 2: Bhovich said, Israel at a Sonya needs to quote beat

1671
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 2: maybe two three guys in two oh five Wait, let

1672
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:27,600
Speaker 2: heavyweight division and then maybe then they give him a

1673
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 2: chance for the title, but not immediately, Luke. As much

1674
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 2: as that's Yan saying that, it's not as call bro,

1675
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 2: it's it's you know, if Dao White wanted to run

1676
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 2: that ship back, they would run it back.

1677
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think he may have said this on Instagram.

1678
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not quite sure where this was said either,

1679
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:51,680
Speaker 1: but I'm basically with you that you know he's I

1680
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 1: don't even I'm not even thinking about Buhovich and Autasnya.

1681
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,679
Speaker 1: I'm not even put that off to the side.

1682
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 2: Okay, what if I made you for one second and said,

1683
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 2: do you think ad Asanya does better than the first fight?

1684
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 1: I would say for sure, true, for sure, true, okay,

1685
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 1: for sure true.

1686
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 2: Do you have a c K. B Luke? What a

1687
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:16,639
Speaker 2: city kick kicking boner? Look?

1688
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,640
Speaker 1: Do I have a city kicking boner? Who do these jokes? Were?

1689
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 1: Do your kids laugh at your jokes?

1690
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 2: They they're not. They're not into like the whole like

1691
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 2: m M a gym fallical reference type crossover jokes. That's

1692
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 2: not really like their their cup of team.

1693
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 1: See what is their wheelhouse? Dad? Shutting the fuck up?

1694
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that's that's that's probably about right, Luke. Okay,

1695
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 2: luckily I have you and you just throw all my

1696
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 2: all my cutting room floor shit at you know. Look,

1697
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:46,640
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get a good five minutes together. So

1698
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 2: one day you could be surprised, Luke.

1699
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,600
Speaker 1: And uh and uh yeah, I think you'd be surprised.

1700
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably. Look I told you that story. I won't

1701
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:58,799
Speaker 2: retell it, but that that that that five full minute

1702
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 2: joke that I bomb at the Connecticut Boxing Hall of

1703
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 2: Fame that I opened it with. It was like just

1704
01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 2: Bill and Bill and I mean it was it was

1705
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 2: fucking crickets, Luke. All right, I mean like there were

1706
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 2: people like like yo, anyone know the where the restroom is?

1707
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 2: Like it was like you know, it was go time, Luke.

1708
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 2: But kept that ship alive, all right, Luke. You know

1709
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 2: I did want to bring up your your uh, your

1710
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 2: sensitive areas, Luke. I mean, in fact, when speaking of

1711
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 2: your genitals, Luke, have you freaking spelled smelled manscapes refined

1712
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 2: body wash? I would go out on a limb, Luke

1713
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,719
Speaker 2: and say that the ladies in your life, both wives

1714
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:43,599
Speaker 2: and mother in laws would would probably love their signature scent.

1715
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 1: Well, you and your disgusting testicles will be oh so

1716
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 1: fresh and clean when you start your off your self

1717
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,640
Speaker 1: care routine With the Ultimate body Wash BC. You can

1718
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 1: keep the grooming game going with the Performance Package four

1719
01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 1: point zero. Inside this package you'll find the on More

1720
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 1: four point zero, which BC uses to shave his disgusting face,

1721
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 1: weed whacker, ear and hair nose trimmer, crop preserver ball deoderant.

1722
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 1: And didn't know that was the thing until I used it.

1723
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 1: Crop reviver, toner, performance boxer briefs, and a travel bag

1724
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:16,719
Speaker 1: to hold your goodies. Brian Campbell.

1725
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, our friends at Manscape they want to give

1726
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 2: you twenty percent off the product and some freaking free

1727
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 2: shipping and all you have to do is type in

1728
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 2: to your Google machine. They're the our special promat code

1729
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:35,719
Speaker 2: promo code. Sorry, uh that's combat with a K. And folks, look,

1730
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 2: is it fun manic? You know man Manscape? I mean,

1731
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 2: is it fun keeping your you know, your your your

1732
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 2: ship up to up to up to code, up to

1733
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 2: OSHA sanctions. No, but at least you don't have to

1734
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 2: get injured doing it anymore. And that's what That's what

1735
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 2: the folks at manscape do. They make you smell nice

1736
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 2: as well. They got a nice little satchel page, Luke.

1737
01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 2: It's like my travel bag. It's part of the package there.

1738
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 2: They got a lot of good shit. I mean, you know,

1739
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:05,719
Speaker 2: we're talking about a weed whacker loof Luke that uses

1740
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 2: a nine thousand rpm motor powered three sixty degree rotary

1741
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:15,599
Speaker 2: dual blade system that will have you looking like looking

1742
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 2: like you know, like you're ready for the vivid catalog,

1743
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 2: if you know what I mean.

1744
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 1: And the crop Preserver ball deodorant for leaving the house,

1745
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 1: and the crop Reviver ball toner for a mid game

1746
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 1: ball check Trust me when I say this, BC, your

1747
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 1: balls will thank you. BC. Would you want to do

1748
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:36,640
Speaker 1: a smell test? Could I put ball de oterant on

1749
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 1: my balls and then have you tell me how great

1750
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 1: they smell?

1751
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,559
Speaker 2: Have you ever had a mid show ball check? Luke

1752
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 2: is where are you going with this? Yeah? Can we

1753
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 2: get out of this soon? The best way to get

1754
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 2: out of this is for you to take care of

1755
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 2: your genitals by going to manscape dot com twenty percent

1756
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 2: off free shipping. The code is combat with a K.

1757
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 2: Just do it, because look, guys, soon you're gonna be

1758
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 2: out of the game. You're gonna be like Luke and

1759
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 2: I and you used to be growing a really long beard,

1760
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 2: and you know your liver will change colors. And it's

1761
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 2: just like you know, I had a prime. There was

1762
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 2: a time there was a window there. If you're still

1763
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 2: in that window, you shave that shit. I mean, seriously,

1764
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 2: they don't get Chicks don't want to see that, man,

1765
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:23,560
Speaker 2: you know, like you know, chicks don't want to hear that.

1766
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:24,559
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1767
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 1: So, uh, no one, No one wants your guitarist metal

1768
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 1: band billy goat ball hair in their face or anywhere else.

1769
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 1: That's a great point, trim that ship.

1770
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 2: If your balls look like scott Ian's chin, you need

1771
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 2: to get yourself some manscaped.

1772
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:39,560
Speaker 1: You probably also have anthrax.

1773
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:44,600
Speaker 2: Yeah uh yeah, yeah, all right, Luke. We got a

1774
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 2: great segment every week where where all those times we

1775
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 2: speak into a microphone incorrectly or or or and many

1776
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 2: other wrongs people can send into Morning Combat at gmail

1777
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 2: dot com send your Wednesday fans submissions, but on Fridays send.

1778
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 1: Your wrong dude wrong.

1779
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, this is where we go to trial

1780
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 2: and stand up for our sins. Nathan says, I was

1781
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 2: hoping somebody else in Montana would have dead wrong to

1782
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 2: you on today's show about the BKFC event that took place,

1783
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 2: Brian on October thirteenth said it was BKFC Oklahoma, when

1784
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 2: in reality it was BKFC Montana. I know because I

1785
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 2: attended the event here in Billings. I was so excited

1786
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:31,680
Speaker 2: to hear BCNLT talk about the event and bring some

1787
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 2: exposure to our state for these events. But alas it

1788
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 2: ended up as just another have you seen this shit segment?

1789
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 2: Keep that shit up? I love the show. I work

1790
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:44,680
Speaker 2: as a janitor at a school and I listen to

1791
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 2: you hearly every day. Wow side burns, you know, miss

1792
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 2: Lippy like like, okay, makes ignoring the kids a lot easier.

1793
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 2: Thank you for that, Luke. Should this man be trusted

1794
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 2: Nathan around children?

1795
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 1: Probably not, but that probably goes for most of our listeners.

1796
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 2: You know, Okay, all right, that's fine that you're right, Nathan,

1797
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 2: I was wrong. It is. I did zero research for that.

1798
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 2: BKFC Billings shout out. Okay, hope, Melvin Gallard is okay,

1799
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:14,240
Speaker 2: thank you, Uh, Luke, David is here. I don't know

1800
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:16,599
Speaker 2: if it's uh oh it is that guy. Wow. Hi, guys,

1801
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 2: a particularly pedantic dead wrong from your old friend French

1802
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 2: Bill Cosby here if Friday's episode.

1803
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta say he's leaning into this shit in

1804
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:31,799
Speaker 1: the most hilarious but also slightly off putting of ways.

1805
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:33,799
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm the motherfucking French Bill Cosby.

1806
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1807
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 3: He's like.

1808
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Luke, Yeah, He's like, hey, ho hip hop

1809
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:43,679
Speaker 2: for it. Yeah, he's got the hole. Listen.

1810
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 1: Every time he writes us, he needs to call himself

1811
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 1: the French version of something new, So like, next time

1812
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 1: he writes us, he better call himself the French roly romero.

1813
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:55,679
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay. In Friday's episode, Luke talked about Maria

1814
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 2: Henderson having her second pro fight when all the media

1815
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:01,800
Speaker 2: outlets seem to be calling it her second amateur fight

1816
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:03,760
Speaker 2: and she has yet to turn pro. Wow, I called

1817
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 2: it her first amateur fight. Little did I know, Luke.

1818
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if I feel any better about my

1819
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 2: useless existence for pointing that out. But I haven't been

1820
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:13,759
Speaker 2: on Dead Wrong for a while and am over twenty

1821
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:17,639
Speaker 2: two on DMS for DONCS, so why not I get

1822
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 2: back to laying pipe in the north of France? Cheers

1823
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 2: David A Oh my god, Luke, what are you doing?

1824
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:25,719
Speaker 1: What are you doing France?

1825
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 3: Dave?

1826
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:33,720
Speaker 2: I am a prime Oh boy, Yeah, I could just

1827
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 2: see that guy, but you know, putting jelly on a

1828
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:40,560
Speaker 2: crape as he's yeah, you know, all right, Luke, this

1829
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:45,680
Speaker 2: is uh, hen Henry coming in, Henri, Henri coming in. Hi.

1830
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 2: Luke Lucas repeatedly talked about how Phil Davis and Videem

1831
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 2: Nemkov have fought ten rounds against each other. He did

1832
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 2: it again on Friday's MK eighteen at the seventeen forty

1833
01:28:57,320 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 2: five mark. The fact this their first fight was only

1834
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 2: three rounds, so they have only fought eight rounds against

1835
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 2: each other. I let it slide at first, but since

1836
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 2: this is a repeated offense, I had to point that out.

1837
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 2: That's a Henri sending you to help.

1838
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 1: I have a dead wrong for myself if no one

1839
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 1: else gets it to me, So save me a little

1840
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 1: bit of time. We'll see how this goes. But yes,

1841
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 1: I got that one wrong.

1842
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:18,559
Speaker 2: I hope it involves marine guns because those people were

1843
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 2: like real unhappy about you.

1844
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I fucked that one up so bad, yea,

1845
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 1: so they deserve to kill me for it.

1846
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 2: Caring back in your man badge after that, Zachary says

1847
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 2: at one thirty nine oho three of episode two sixty eight,

1848
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,679
Speaker 2: in discussing the resume review which will be done on Canelo,

1849
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 2: BC erroneously claims that Canelo is a favorite at plus

1850
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 2: seven hundred. However, we all know that the plus minus

1851
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 2: symbol implies that you are the favorite, while the plus

1852
01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:46,679
Speaker 2: you are the underdog. No way, DraftKings sponsors a donk

1853
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 2: who doesn't know the difference between a favorite and an

1854
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 2: underdog in sports.

1855
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:52,639
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a little that's a little unfair,

1856
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 1: I mean unfair, but like, well, it gets.

1857
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 2: Worse, it gets worse. Look, please keep BC away from

1858
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 2: any financial decisions in his house. Love the show MK

1859
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 2: all day every day. They don't make They don't allow

1860
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 2: me to make many financial decisions in this house as

1861
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 2: it is, Luke.

1862
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:09,439
Speaker 1: So yeah, tell me about it. I don't know, all right,

1863
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 1: I make. I make many financial decisions. It's just that

1864
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:14,439
Speaker 1: the same ones over and over. I just open up

1865
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:16,559
Speaker 1: my wallet until I get callouses on my fingers.

1866
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see that, yo yo. Did Pepe move yet?

1867
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 1: No, he's not gonna move I think until first quarter

1868
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:25,000
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Not quite yet.

1869
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:27,559
Speaker 2: We got to get him a segment from his new apartment, Luke,

1870
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:30,560
Speaker 2: where he just makes me, talks about what he's what

1871
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 2: he's slaying, right, you know what I mean.

1872
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:33,760
Speaker 1: We're not We're not doing that.

1873
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 2: It's not for everyone, Luke, it's not for us.

1874
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:39,679
Speaker 1: I'll have him record a goodbye message maybe before he moves,

1875
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:40,720
Speaker 1: but no, I'm not doing that.

1876
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, if he could slide a little game points our way,

1877
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:47,000
Speaker 2: we can bundle that with manscapes, that'd be great. A

1878
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 2: lot of folks wrote in here, Yeah, this.

1879
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:51,439
Speaker 1: One is this one of all the botches I've had

1880
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:53,080
Speaker 1: on this show. This is up there with one of

1881
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:55,120
Speaker 1: the words if not, yes, I feel terrible about it.

1882
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 2: Even a guy named Otto wrote in Luke, this guy,

1883
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 2: I can imagine him was an auto volley. Yeah, I

1884
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 2: think it was, they say, gentlemen at the UH Wednesday

1885
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:06,640
Speaker 2: Show fansubmissions, we got a timestamp here too. While Luke

1886
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 2: was describing Bob sweet Ash Russian three wheel tank, Luke

1887
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:12,960
Speaker 2: said that the seven point six to two millimeter was

1888
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:14,640
Speaker 2: the NATO NATO.

1889
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 1: NATO around Yeah it's not. It's the five five six yeah.

1890
01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:19,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so whatever. Look, I'm not gonna read all these

1891
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:21,320
Speaker 2: nerd specs. But you got it wrong.

1892
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 1: But no, it's bad. So the seven six ' two

1893
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:26,680
Speaker 1: was the originally one designed for the M sixteen A two,

1894
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:28,719
Speaker 1: but it was the five to five six seven sixty

1895
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 1: two is like for an AK forty seven. You can

1896
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 1: do M four carbine. It was on that one. It's

1897
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Speaker 1: just one of those things where like my brain just

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Speaker 1: wasn't it just didn't work. It just didn't. I had

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Speaker 1: a false memory that I was certain about, which it wasn't.

1900
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Speaker 1: I will take that dead wrong. I was embarrassed. I

1901
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 1: was like, dude, I don't think that's right. After the show,

1902
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 1: and then I went and looked it up and I

1903
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 1: was like, fuck, I felt so embarrassed, so sorry to everyone. Huh.

1904
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Speaker 2: Isn't there a name for that? Isn't it like the

1905
01:31:56,120 --> 01:32:01,639
Speaker 2: bear stay embarrassed theory or something time frames where you're

1906
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 2: convinced that something happened that didn't that you lived it.

1907
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't think an alien but I don't remember.

1908
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's that exactly. It's just sometimes

1909
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:13,559
Speaker 1: you get in your mind, like with the Nimkov and Davis, like, oh,

1910
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure they fought five rounds the first time. No

1911
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 1: they didn't. It's something along those lines where like, for

1912
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Speaker 1: some reason, I just had in my brain, oh, the

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Speaker 1: seven six two, that's the fucking a two service rifle,

1914
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Speaker 1: I think, And it just it's the five five six,

1915
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Speaker 1: which is the.

1916
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Speaker 2: I mean, they just have sentences filled with specs. So

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to read all the gun nuts.

1918
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Speaker 1: Here's the thing about gun nuts, and I love them

1919
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Speaker 1: to death, but gun nuts think that if you don't

1920
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Speaker 1: understand like the aeronautical nuances of the firing pin, uh,

1921
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:45,120
Speaker 1: then you are a complete zero and have allowed to

1922
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:47,720
Speaker 1: have no opinion on guns in this particular case, my

1923
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 1: box is so extraordinary, I will shut the fuck up.

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01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 1: But I will also say that gun nuts. They and

1925
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:55,559
Speaker 1: God bless them. Dude, like, go on a gun, It's okay.

1926
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Speaker 1: But they the people who are like super I'm not

1927
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:02,880
Speaker 1: fucking into guns. That's what I'm going to like. Those people.

1928
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Speaker 1: They don't They don't have a They don't have a

1929
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Speaker 1: great degree of a degree of mercy if you don't

1930
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Speaker 1: have a encyclopedic knowledge of the operations of a firearm.

1931
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Speaker 2: This man wrote ps I was home with my family

1932
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:17,599
Speaker 2: here in Florida on January sixth, but I was debating

1933
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:20,080
Speaker 2: whether I should pack up the minivan and drive north

1934
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:24,719
Speaker 2: to fight for the union. Wow. Wow, them are our people?

1935
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Speaker 2: All right? Yes?

1936
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, we got one more.

1937
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 2: This is from Jay No John j O N John

1938
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 2: from Ohio, sliding in when discussing Fador versus Johnson during

1939
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:39,160
Speaker 2: Wednesday show of This Week at the thirty minute mark,

1940
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 2: Luke said quote most fans around nowadays weren't around for

1941
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:45,840
Speaker 2: the two thousand and four meeting between Fador and crow Cop.

1942
01:33:46,160 --> 01:33:49,160
Speaker 2: After hearing this, I resisted the urge to turn the

1943
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 2: MK subreddit into the next Fighter and Kid fan page.

1944
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:56,120
Speaker 2: And calmly checked Fador's record. Those of US fans that

1945
01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:58,880
Speaker 2: are still around these days, we'll always remember the epic

1946
01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:01,120
Speaker 2: Pride Final Conflict two thousand and five card that not

1947
01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 2: only included fad Or Crocop but Shogun Hua being crowded

1948
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:07,120
Speaker 2: the middleweight Grand Prix champ. In all fairness, I could

1949
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:09,559
Speaker 2: tell the producers were rushing you guys during that show.

1950
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:12,720
Speaker 1: Oh take that Miniach Yes, yeah, fuck you manis is

1951
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:13,200
Speaker 1: your fault?

1952
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 2: So this l is on them for rushing greatness? Wow,

1953
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:18,120
Speaker 2: thank you, John, thank you very much.

1954
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, lucases five. Good card though, good card.

1955
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:22,679
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, good show.

1956
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:25,439
Speaker 1: Also, there's like hardly any fans from that era still

1957
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 1: watching MMA. I just one point that are you sure?

1958
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:29,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I do agree that the guys like when

1959
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 2: I worked at ESPN, the guys in the newsroom that

1960
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:35,640
Speaker 2: were hard freaking core when we launched MMA live in

1961
01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:37,840
Speaker 2: like two thousand and eight, those guys are not watching

1962
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:40,760
Speaker 2: MMA anymore, like really, like across the board, they don't

1963
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:44,439
Speaker 2: watch anymore. What happened? What happened to those guys, particularly Luke?

1964
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 1: So there was a generation of fans post Ultimate Fighter

1965
01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:51,880
Speaker 1: that got caught up and was at the time a

1966
01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 1: UFC boom where UFC was on. I mean, their story

1967
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:57,880
Speaker 1: of success was being covered over and over and over again.

1968
01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:00,160
Speaker 1: And this is when they really begin to tour and

1969
01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 1: do a lot of stuff in a very pronounced way.

1970
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 1: I mean they were torn in before, but in a

1971
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:06,200
Speaker 1: very pronounced way, and markets they hadn't been to before

1972
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 1: and whatnot. And there's a lot of people were having

1973
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:12,800
Speaker 1: UFC viewing parties. It was a thing. All the people

1974
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:14,720
Speaker 1: who used to come to my house for UFC viewing

1975
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:18,679
Speaker 1: parties probably haven't watched MMA in ten years. But here's

1976
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:20,280
Speaker 1: my theory, BC. I wonder what you make of it.

1977
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:23,600
Speaker 1: There there is like a five year turnover cycle. And

1978
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:25,479
Speaker 1: I don't know why it's that. I mean, I'm sure

1979
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 1: that's an unfair way to describe the math, but it

1980
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:30,680
Speaker 1: just seems to me that there's about a five year

1981
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 1: chunk because here's what happens. People discover MMA and then

1982
01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 1: they just fall in love with it. They're like, oh

1983
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 1: my fucking god, this is like everything I've missed out

1984
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:40,639
Speaker 1: of a sport. It's kind of like the crazy girlfriend

1985
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:42,720
Speaker 1: with you just you know, you had the most unbelievable

1986
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 1: bang sessions with but Eventually they get tired of it

1987
01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:48,599
Speaker 1: because they have a hard time following it because there

1988
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:50,880
Speaker 1: is so much of it. You see them burn out

1989
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:53,519
Speaker 1: and then they walk away or some burn out and

1990
01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:56,439
Speaker 1: then they'll catch the cards on occasion whatever. But there's

1991
01:35:56,479 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 1: this intense period where they watch everything for five years

1992
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:01,200
Speaker 1: and then everything kind of falls apart.

1993
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it's them in their personal lives. Maybe their

1994
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:06,599
Speaker 2: personal lives fell apart.

1995
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:07,600
Speaker 1: And a lot of them just get a lot of

1996
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:09,719
Speaker 1: them to think about this way. If you're like twenty five,

1997
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:12,560
Speaker 1: you know, this is one thing you and I have

1998
01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:14,599
Speaker 1: just kind of made peace with. But we spent most

1999
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 1: of our twenties and thirties on Saturday nights not partying.

2000
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:19,640
Speaker 1: We were working. You know.

2001
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:23,559
Speaker 2: That's why I had a few friends. That's seriously. I mean,

2002
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:25,559
Speaker 2: what I mean is I have a lot of friends,

2003
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:28,200
Speaker 2: but in terms of people I actually see, they're very

2004
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 2: few because I've given my life to this shit, Luke.

2005
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it's good. I have people I call friends,

2006
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:36,640
Speaker 1: but I hardly ever see anyone because I'm just I

2007
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 1: do this.

2008
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:39,720
Speaker 2: You know. The second I took a full time job

2009
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:41,840
Speaker 2: at ESPN and started working overnight, so it was like,

2010
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:45,120
Speaker 2: that's the beginning of a new life, Luke. It's like

2011
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:47,679
Speaker 2: people that work your friends that become like full time

2012
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 2: waiters or bartenders or bus boys, you'll never see them again.

2013
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:55,400
Speaker 1: Luke. Also, if you want a date, you better figure

2014
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:56,880
Speaker 1: it out how you're going to do that, because you're

2015
01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 1: going to be. You gotta tell your girl, your guy

2016
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:01,920
Speaker 1: or whoever. You ain't coming on Saturday night. Well you

2017
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 1: might be, but it's going to be in front of

2018
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:05,719
Speaker 1: a computer. It's not going to be anywhere else.

2019
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:08,599
Speaker 2: Uh oh, if you're gonna come, come on, all right,

2020
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:11,760
Speaker 2: yeah exactly. Yeah. I don't think we have tips today, Luke.

2021
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:13,559
Speaker 2: You got anything you want to share or reveal to.

2022
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:16,080
Speaker 1: The people, I will say this. I mentioned BJJ Fanatics before.

2023
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 1: I'll give them one more shout out because I just

2024
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:21,800
Speaker 1: finished it this morning. So this is BJJ Fanatics is

2025
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:23,320
Speaker 1: a place that started out where like, oh, this is

2026
01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:25,559
Speaker 1: video instructionals on how to like do reverse de la

2027
01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:27,920
Speaker 1: Diva from Baron Bolo and shit, and it was and

2028
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:31,640
Speaker 1: it was good, but it was very niche to jiu

2029
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:34,720
Speaker 1: jitsu and oftentimes gi jiu jitsu, and it just expanded

2030
01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:39,679
Speaker 1: into everything to striking to wrestling to every space in between.

2031
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:44,799
Speaker 1: James Krause has a new course called Complete Cage Control

2032
01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:47,760
Speaker 1: and I finished it. It's how to fence Wrestle and

2033
01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:50,600
Speaker 1: like what the best practices are on fence wrestling, and

2034
01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:53,560
Speaker 1: I this is one of my weaker points because I

2035
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:56,800
Speaker 1: did some fence wrestling while I trained, but the game

2036
01:37:56,920 --> 01:37:58,439
Speaker 1: has evolved a little bit and I've had a little

2037
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:00,679
Speaker 1: bit of trouble keeping up with some of the the meta.

2038
01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:04,040
Speaker 1: This was the most comprehensive thing I've seen on the

2039
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:06,760
Speaker 1: topic at a high level anywhere. I mean, I'm not

2040
01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:09,320
Speaker 1: saying that there aren't other places, but I just I

2041
01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:12,840
Speaker 1: haven't found them, and I've been looking too. James Cross

2042
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:15,759
Speaker 1: did a great job of putting this together, of showing

2043
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:19,160
Speaker 1: how the system works together, of giving you concepts about

2044
01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:21,719
Speaker 1: how to build into the system that he's talking about,

2045
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:25,080
Speaker 1: and what these takedowns are and why they work. Can't

2046
01:38:25,120 --> 01:38:27,040
Speaker 1: recommend it enough. It's one hundred bucks for the course,

2047
01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:30,880
Speaker 1: but if you're really looking to better understand fence wrestling. Again,

2048
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:32,240
Speaker 1: for a lot of you, you won't care. But for

2049
01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:36,120
Speaker 1: the ones who do, I can't. Can't more strongly recommend

2050
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:38,519
Speaker 1: what James Cross put together with BJJ fanatics.

2051
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 2: Go check it out good shit, Luke, I'll have an

2052
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:43,680
Speaker 2: unscheduled one and say, I just heard the beep on

2053
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 2: the Alexa that there's a package at the door. And

2054
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:49,080
Speaker 2: I'm really hoping, Luke, that this package is not only

2055
01:38:49,320 --> 01:38:52,439
Speaker 2: a nice manscaped man bag there with all the things,

2056
01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:55,519
Speaker 2: all the gimmicks we're trying to sell you. But most importantly, Luke,

2057
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:59,599
Speaker 2: my favorite modern band, My Morning Jacket. Their new album

2058
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:02,200
Speaker 2: is out, and I think I've got the vinyl sitting

2059
01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 2: on my front porch, Luke, and I cannot tell you

2060
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 2: how excited I am, not only because this band it

2061
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:11,400
Speaker 2: has been so fantastic since I first got into them

2062
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 2: back in like two thousand and three, but you know,

2063
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:16,439
Speaker 2: they hadn't done something new and original in the studio

2064
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:19,280
Speaker 2: in like six years. They put out the Waterfall two album,

2065
01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:22,760
Speaker 2: which was kind of previously put together. This is one

2066
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:26,640
Speaker 2: of those times when a great band has an unnaturally

2067
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:30,640
Speaker 2: long break between albums, gets that loving spirit back, and

2068
01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 2: then puts out a self titled album this deep into

2069
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:37,040
Speaker 2: their career, and I can't fricking wait to get the

2070
01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:39,560
Speaker 2: vinyl for the first time brand new. Put it on

2071
01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:42,200
Speaker 2: and that be my first listen. It's interesting when you

2072
01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:44,799
Speaker 2: look back at your music fandom, how many times, especially

2073
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:48,280
Speaker 2: us classic rockheads, that like your favorite albums of all

2074
01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:51,080
Speaker 2: time came out, you know, twenty thirty years before you

2075
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:54,800
Speaker 2: first heard them. So even some great stuff like Radiohead

2076
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:56,720
Speaker 2: or even some Pearl Jam albums, I was maybe a

2077
01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:59,840
Speaker 2: year behind on really getting into it. There's something, Luke,

2078
01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:02,840
Speaker 2: of about your band that you've been through shit with

2079
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:06,559
Speaker 2: coming out with something brand new, and you can intimately

2080
01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:09,280
Speaker 2: experience it through the headphones on the vinyl player. Luke,

2081
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:12,599
Speaker 2: that may I mean that, that may be David French

2082
01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:16,599
Speaker 2: Cosby teacher levels of creepy, or that's just a passion

2083
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:17,599
Speaker 2: for the arts right there.

2084
01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:21,000
Speaker 1: Could I get you too if I bought the vinyl?

2085
01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:23,639
Speaker 1: Could I get you to listen to the new Jedi

2086
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:25,280
Speaker 1: Mind Tricks album out next month?

2087
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:30,240
Speaker 2: Yes, I would trade you my Big Booty Latina's compilation

2088
01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:34,880
Speaker 2: record that in the Great Enich Marshan of Nice Price

2089
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:38,200
Speaker 2: Records there and Rally durham Aria sent to me for you. Luke,

2090
01:40:38,240 --> 01:40:39,200
Speaker 2: that'd be a great trade off.

2091
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:41,800
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a fair trade, but I like

2092
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:43,280
Speaker 1: your spirit of enthusiasm here.

2093
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:46,240
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you very much, And Luke, that'll wrap

2094
01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:48,560
Speaker 2: up our Friday show here. Thank you so much to

2095
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:51,200
Speaker 2: all the people who have liked each of our episodes,

2096
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:55,639
Speaker 2: who have subscribed on YouTube on other platforms as well,

2097
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:58,680
Speaker 2: who have you know filled our comments section with their

2098
01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:01,559
Speaker 2: honest take about this show, what they love, what they don't,

2099
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:04,360
Speaker 2: who go to the Apple Podcast, do a five star review,

2100
01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:06,559
Speaker 2: leave a funny comment and try to win a gift card.

2101
01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:10,200
Speaker 2: And those who will follow us on our various social channels.

2102
01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:14,720
Speaker 2: We ain't shit, Luke without this rag tag group of

2103
01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:19,120
Speaker 2: just great folks, just great frickin' people. That marine with

2104
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:21,720
Speaker 2: the go to great person. Oh teal slap in the

2105
01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:24,519
Speaker 2: base at Red Rock's great look. We've got an army

2106
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:26,840
Speaker 2: of love. A lot of man love, but we have

2107
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:27,720
Speaker 2: an army of love.

2108
01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:31,759
Speaker 1: Are you doing anything fun this weekend?

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Speaker 2: Sleeping a lot?

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Speaker 1: That is fun? I agree if you can find a

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Speaker 1: way to do it. Dude, I'm going to the rugby

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Speaker 1: game tomorrow, the USA versus New Zealand. Oh shit, yeah

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Speaker 1: you like that?

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Speaker 2: Off topic, but Quasi related that Matt Damon rugby movie.

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Speaker 1: Oh where he played like the Captain of the spring Box.

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Speaker 2: I didn't see it. I've never seen it.

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Speaker 1: I saw it on a plane. Actually it's actually pretty good.

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Speaker 1: It's actually pretty good. It's not bad. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: putting a wat guy at the center of the hero

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Speaker 1: story of South Africa as a little much.

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Speaker 2: But I've been a little hesitant, although I did have

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Speaker 2: a realization, Luke, one night on a plane, on an

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Speaker 2: overnight flight, not last night, that Matt Damon is actually

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Speaker 2: the lead male actor of our movie watching lifetime, like

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Speaker 2: like you know, the post Paccino and de Niro, you

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Speaker 2: know greatness, you know, sort of that next wave that

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Speaker 2: he's the guy. And we never realized that the whole time.

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Speaker 1: But he's the guy, Luke, Uh, he might be. The

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Speaker 1: movie is called Invictus and it was based on a

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Speaker 1: true story. It's pretty good. It's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: All right. You're not a big Rounders guy. You're not

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Speaker 2: gonna back me up here, Luke.

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Speaker 1: Oh Rounders, pay that man. His Manni is just an

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Speaker 1: epic fucking movie. I loves, just.

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Speaker 2: Like this great show Showtime dot Com Get your thirty

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Speaker 2: days free watch Fador tomorrow afternoon Saturday, three pm Eastern

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Speaker 2: on Showtime Fador in Moscow. Dude, get the thirty days

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Speaker 2: free trial already, Big Time Boxing, all that good shit,

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Speaker 2: do that shit our merch. God, if you could just

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Speaker 2: see how cool your washed up ass could be in

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Speaker 2: this Factory Town MMA shirt right here. You can wear

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Speaker 2: that and you can find that at Morningcombat Dot store.

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Speaker 2: We got fanny packs, tied eyed dad hats. We had

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Speaker 2: a lot of fun shit, including Luke's face day like

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Speaker 2: like Halloween style on there.

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Speaker 1: Luke, Hey, ask me if my family has said anything

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Speaker 1: when I wear MK merch in front of them about

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Speaker 1: the merch? Wow? Ax me Wow?

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Speaker 2: No, Well, Luke, that's the thing about this community we've built.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you don't have, you know, a father or a

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Speaker 2: brother who will make that call and tell you how

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Speaker 2: how loved you are. But Luke, I don't know. If

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Speaker 2: you ever check out the comments section on this, if

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Speaker 2: you can swim through like the like, the real, the real,

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Speaker 2: insanely and insultful stuff, you know this family loves you. Luke.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, I appreciate that I will not be checking,

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Speaker 1: but I appreciate.

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Speaker 2: Justice Bill and Jen you better not show up.

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Speaker 1: Well, Billy and Jenn are like Bill and Jen are like,

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Speaker 1: hey here, we are way the fuck away from you, donks,

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Speaker 1: cause uh you know, we're wearing your merch, which is nice,

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Speaker 1: and we're in front of like the Grand Tetons. Hey, motherfucker,

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Speaker 1: what about what about the Freedom Tower? You don't like

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Speaker 1: the Freedom Tower? Huh? What about what about the Washington Monument?

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Speaker 1: Bill and Jen? What about that?

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Speaker 2: I think they're gonna get there, Luke, they live in

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Speaker 2: an extraordinary life. Oh, Brian laundrys remains may have been found.

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Speaker 2: More news out of love in Luke.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good riddance to that dirt bag.

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Speaker 2: Wow, let's remove that from the post.

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Speaker 1: Edit.

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Speaker 2: My name is Brian Campbell, that's Luke Thomas. This is

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Speaker 2: Morning Combat. Thank you to our team, our crew, CBS Sports, Showtime, Alco,

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Speaker 2: all the labels that pay and provide for us. And

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Speaker 2: enjoy your weekend, folks. A lot of great fights.

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Speaker 1: Have fun.

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Speaker 2: Still nice out there, Get out, protect, protect your head,

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Speaker 2: protect your mental health, Luke. Any closing shots to fire?

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Speaker 1: Uh? I mean all your ex lovers be satisfied.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, damn right, yes, yes,