Speaker 1: What's good family, it's your girl to make a d
Speaker 1: Mallory and it's your boy, my son, and we are
Speaker 1: your hosts of street politicians the place with what's going on,
Speaker 1: my son, I am blessed in Holly favorite man. Father's
Speaker 1: Day June teev long weekend for me, man, long weekend,
Speaker 1: long weekend. Father's Day was a good day in New York.
Speaker 1: Um the whole weekend, A lot of people did a
Speaker 1: lot of black stuff getting together, Black people getting together
Speaker 1: doing black stuff. And I like that. I like Father's
Speaker 1: Day falling on June team. It was something special about it.
Speaker 1: It was it was you know, it was good because
Speaker 1: there was a lot of men being celebrated. It was
Speaker 1: freedom being celebrated. We did so many different things. I
Speaker 1: did a rally with my brother A. T. Mitchell on Saturday,
Speaker 1: and then we did our launch on Sunday, and then
Speaker 1: UM went around to what's your picnics? When my kids
Speaker 1: drove them crazy. But no, we also fed three hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty people. Three people shout out to them, what's
Speaker 1: the name of the buzz an? I have to I
Speaker 1: forget the name because I just know unique as the
Speaker 1: young lady who has the food truckad Now, we gotta,
Speaker 1: we gotta, we gotta shout that up. Make sure we
Speaker 1: give out her proper for feet and three hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty people yesterday in the Bronx. That was it was
Speaker 1: really cool, like you know, to watch the folks show up. Well,
Speaker 1: what was interesting is how I don't know if anyone
Speaker 1: else experiences this, and I guess it's happened. It happened
Speaker 1: to me. When someone says it's free, people were looking
Speaker 1: at us. They were like, what you mean it's free?
Speaker 1: They didn't believe nobody. It's called food Fetish. The truck
Speaker 1: is called food Fetish. Set out to my home girl
Speaker 1: unique Um she's had. That's one of her her entrepreneur
Speaker 1: businesses that she started good Food and we fed everybody
Speaker 1: that came by one three in the Grand concourse. We fed,
Speaker 1: you know, So it was it was a good day.
Speaker 1: But leading up to this day to me because it
Speaker 1: was crazy to me because you know, I had all
Speaker 1: these things to do and I needed to be in
Speaker 1: New York and my flight was canceled. I was supposed
Speaker 1: to be back here on Thursday night and my flight
Speaker 1: got canceled just randomly, like I'm on my way to
Speaker 1: the airport and randomly they just sent me a notification.
Speaker 1: First it was your flight is delayed the hour. The
Speaker 1: next thing I know, your flight is canceled. M I'm like,
Speaker 1: what the hell get canceled? No, they don't get caned,
Speaker 1: like this is not something that happens to me, Like
Speaker 1: you know what saying, my flight doesn't really get canceled.
Speaker 1: And and then we heard we heard that there were
Speaker 1: so many flights canceled. Over six thousand flights were canceled.
Speaker 1: Within those things it happened this it was just on
Speaker 1: the day that you were caught up. The next day,
Speaker 1: my flight was canceled something to where that where was
Speaker 1: that going to d C And that was part of
Speaker 1: another five thousand flights. So it's been each and every
Speaker 1: day they've been canceling thousands of flights. It's crazy. It's crazy,
Speaker 1: and they're charging massive money for the tickets they're canceling
Speaker 1: your flight. Then when you're trying to do something else,
Speaker 1: they're trying to charge you two or three thousand dollars
Speaker 1: to get a flight places that normally course three or
Speaker 1: four hundred dollars, Like I don't even understand, like price
Speaker 1: Gallagen at its best right now. Like, I don't know
Speaker 1: what these airports are trying to do. These airlines are
Speaker 1: trying to get some money back. Some people say it's
Speaker 1: jet fuel. They don't want to spend the money on
Speaker 1: jet fuel, so they're trying to make sure all of
Speaker 1: the flights are packed. Then these people saying that there's
Speaker 1: no workers. But whatever it is, it's coming out of
Speaker 1: our pockets. It's mad. It's inconveniencing us. I had to
Speaker 1: get back kid on Friday. I had to rush miss
Speaker 1: my kids things that I was supposed to do with
Speaker 1: my children, so to take my son to the doctors
Speaker 1: or to pick them up. Then I had to rush
Speaker 1: and try to get ready for the rally, had to
Speaker 1: get t shirts. It was so many, it was I
Speaker 1: was so backed up. Man. So I don't know who
Speaker 1: else experienced these flights, but I've seen something with Rick
Speaker 1: Ross was talking about it said something that if you know,
Speaker 1: if you book him for a flight, you gotta book
Speaker 1: him down. You gotta n him a jet because they're
Speaker 1: canceling flights. He's like his his prices fifty thollars the
Speaker 1: book because he needs a private jet because the flights
Speaker 1: are not are just getting canceled and he doesn't even
Speaker 1: want to deal with that no more so I'm remember
Speaker 1: being I don't know where I was anyway. They have
Speaker 1: been changing flight times, canceling flights, and I know there
Speaker 1: are a lot of people that have different reasons why
Speaker 1: they think it's happening. But um, when you really get
Speaker 1: down to the bottom to like though, as they say,
Speaker 1: the nitty gritty of it all, uh, one thing we
Speaker 1: know for sure is that pilots have been complaining about
Speaker 1: being overworked. So that is that's definitely an issue that
Speaker 1: pilots have been saying they're not gonna work like you know,
Speaker 1: once they finished flying into a particular place, there is
Speaker 1: an expectation or maybe the airlines. I don't even know
Speaker 1: if they because we we can't really speak on behalf
Speaker 1: of folks. We don't. We were not in those conversations,
Speaker 1: but just from chatter and reading a few stories online,
Speaker 1: what I have found is that pilots are saying that
Speaker 1: once they get to a particular place, rather than them
Speaker 1: flying back or you know, continuing to our next location,
Speaker 1: they shut down and going in because they're tired. And
Speaker 1: so so I guess the pandemic has caused just pilotic city. Quit.
Speaker 1: They don't want to work no more. But must see.
Speaker 1: See this is the thing, and this is where you
Speaker 1: and I, well, I think you finally came to an
Speaker 1: understanding around the pandemic. People die, lots and lots of people.
Speaker 1: Hundreds of thousands of people were probably like a million
Speaker 1: people at this point who died as a result of
Speaker 1: either having COVID and then getting complications or caught up
Speaker 1: in the health care system and you know, things happened
Speaker 1: to them. They didn't get the proper care. That is,
Speaker 1: regardless of whether you want to say, well, it wasn't
Speaker 1: actual COVID in their blood. But the problem is that
Speaker 1: COVID came and when COVID became an issue as a
Speaker 1: result of it, it impacted a lot of people and
Speaker 1: people die. You lost airline stewar is, you lost pilots,
Speaker 1: You lost just people in general. And with with so
Speaker 1: many pilots being older, um, you know, being uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean there's not many black ones, but anyway, there's
Speaker 1: so many that are old or what have you. People
Speaker 1: probably retired like who the hell wants to be on
Speaker 1: a plane closed in with other individuals or having to
Speaker 1: go through airports and traveling around with folks when you
Speaker 1: could potentially get a sickness that you don't want and
Speaker 1: you can retire. You actually can retire at this point,
Speaker 1: so you had a lot of that element. Then you
Speaker 1: have people who working in restaurants and other things that
Speaker 1: just because of you know, them learning maybe new skills,
Speaker 1: new things, ways to stay home and work, they're not
Speaker 1: trying to go back out there. So the whole system
Speaker 1: is thrown off. Everything is all over the place, and
Speaker 1: the airlines is caught up as a part of that.
Speaker 1: But the the f a A and whoever else is
Speaker 1: responsible for airlines and and and UM travel, they need
Speaker 1: to get on top of this because I'm telling you
Speaker 1: that plane tickets are super expensive. You don't book to travel.
Speaker 1: That's what Linda and I do. Well. Janie actually physically
Speaker 1: books to travel, but the approval for all the rates
Speaker 1: and everything it has to come through either Linda or me.
Speaker 1: And we're seeing numbers that are making us say we're
Speaker 1: not traveling places. It's crazy. Like for instance, UM, in
Speaker 1: a few days, we were supposed to be in l
Speaker 1: A to be honored by our girl, Miss Ditty, and
Speaker 1: even she when she heard that the price for ticket
Speaker 1: could be up to three thousand dollars and that wasn't
Speaker 1: even in um uh in first class. She's like, you
Speaker 1: can't come. You just can't be there. It's too expensive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's outrageous, man. And I don't understand. It's
Speaker 1: not like they're giving you no extra services, like y'all
Speaker 1: ain't added nothing to it's actually like you're taking away.
Speaker 1: We was on the plane the day where you know,
Speaker 1: you know, a lady quote unquote was in the back
Speaker 1: team that they had to give her I V. I
Speaker 1: had to get and get V. But they cut off
Speaker 1: the services. We couldn't even get snacks or anything because
Speaker 1: they had no water anything on the three hour flight.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, but you're charging us this ridiculous amount
Speaker 1: of money. The services have been cut most of the time.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they ain't got WiFi. It's like, come on, like
Speaker 1: you gotta get it to you. But you know what
Speaker 1: the airlines is acting and ghet up. We need They
Speaker 1: gotta get it together, man. But it was that was
Speaker 1: one of the worst experiences because even after that, the
Speaker 1: postpone my flight to the next day and then it
Speaker 1: was one time, then it was three hours. I didn't
Speaker 1: end up getting back until supposed to be at home
Speaker 1: Thursday at about nine ten o'clock at night, and I
Speaker 1: didn't get home to Saturday morning at two am. Crazy.
Speaker 1: So they don't care nothing about your kids, your life. Yeah, nothing, mamie.
Speaker 1: And that's the first time that I was in Miami
Speaker 1: and I did not want to be in Miami. Miami
Speaker 1: is one of my places that I love to be
Speaker 1: at and it's always like a good getaways, you know,
Speaker 1: beautiful weather, tranquility and everything. But I did not need
Speaker 1: to beat it, and I didn't want to beat it,
Speaker 1: and it pissed me off. Well. Two other news. The
Speaker 1: airlines is news story number one today. They gotta do something.
Speaker 1: We need to call on the federal government to freaking
Speaker 1: check the airlines and see what the hell is going on.
Speaker 1: But the next story is of Henrietta Lacks. That we
Speaker 1: heard about Henrietta Lacks from attorney Ben crump Um and
Speaker 1: in fact in his new film Civil, which was released
Speaker 1: this past weekend on June. Team Uh. Civil that is
Speaker 1: on Netflix, and people want to get tired of us
Speaker 1: because we're gonna be talking about it's one of the
Speaker 1: best documentaries that I've ever seen like it's a It's
Speaker 1: an awesome depiction and just overall understanding of what it
Speaker 1: is that being Rum does because there's so many people
Speaker 1: who have the wrong idea of what by what he does,
Speaker 1: who he is, even what kind of attorney he is,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying. I've had so many
Speaker 1: people say, you know, you always get, but he always losing,
Speaker 1: And I'll be like, well, I don't even know I
Speaker 1: ever lost anything, because I don't even know. I don't
Speaker 1: think that you understand the difference between the civil attorney
Speaker 1: and the d A. Like the d A is the
Speaker 1: person who tries these cases that you know, police brutality
Speaker 1: and wrong for all of these the DA is responsible
Speaker 1: for that, and being crumb as a civil lawyer is
Speaker 1: responsible for being able to sue and gain monetary, you know,
Speaker 1: value and relief based on the trauma that comes from
Speaker 1: the situation. So that's his only job and people don't
Speaker 1: know that. So just watching this and then you get
Speaker 1: a a real idea of what it is that he
Speaker 1: does and see how serious it is and how engaged
Speaker 1: he is and how much for people he is man
Speaker 1: and me knowing that altogether this gives me a reference point. Now,
Speaker 1: like people Ben Crump is all right, we'll go watch
Speaker 1: go watch civil Well, you know he also and and
Speaker 1: and it is his his main job is to get
Speaker 1: um punitive damages for families. But that's not the only
Speaker 1: thing that he does. He advocates for these families. He
Speaker 1: stands them right. He helps to navigate these families through
Speaker 1: their you know, crises in terms of the tragedy that
Speaker 1: they're experiencing. He also helps to advise the district attorneys
Speaker 1: and you know, those people who are involved in fighting
Speaker 1: the case that they don't have to listen to him.
Speaker 1: Because there was something happening during the uh McK michael's
Speaker 1: trial for in Ahmad arevery there was this moment when um,
Speaker 1: when when the when the dish, when the defense attorney
Speaker 1: started talking about Ahmad Aarby's feet, his toenails, and you know,
Speaker 1: bringing up other things that was clearly racial slurs. And
Speaker 1: I remember all of us being there and when we
Speaker 1: would have our huddles because of course the family um
Speaker 1: and other individuals and lawyers of the civil attorneys for
Speaker 1: the families would be inside the courtroom and then we
Speaker 1: were in the spill over area and as soon as
Speaker 1: it breaks, you know, court would break for any reason.
Speaker 1: They come out and all of us get to huddle
Speaker 1: and talk through what to do. And you know what
Speaker 1: did we hear and and they explained to us. You know,
Speaker 1: Attorney Lee Merritt was there because obviously he represented Wanda Cooper,
Speaker 1: which was Ahmad Araby's mother, and then you had been
Speaker 1: Crumped there representing uh Uhmur's father. And so when they
Speaker 1: would come out and they would advise us, and they
Speaker 1: will be other legal members to help us understand what's
Speaker 1: happening and also to hear our feedback. And our feedback
Speaker 1: was that the district attorney needed to go back on race,
Speaker 1: needed to hit them hard on the issue of race.
Speaker 1: We were like, why won't she bring up what she
Speaker 1: sees happening here? And so we know that that Attorney
Speaker 1: Crump and and and Attorney Merit they did go back
Speaker 1: and say something about it, but she still didn't take
Speaker 1: their advice. So to your point, the district attorney does
Speaker 1: not have to listen to anything from the civil attorney,
Speaker 1: and in fact, I doesn't even have to really speak
Speaker 1: to them other than to get some of the evidence
Speaker 1: that they're looking for. But sometimes they do, so people
Speaker 1: do need to understand. And I think the film, as
Speaker 1: you said, it is very, very educational. It's educational at
Speaker 1: the best. But Henrietta Lacks is another case because another
Speaker 1: part of the film that we they're gonna get tired
Speaker 1: of us so about being Crump, but I don't care
Speaker 1: Civil No, no, no, Well with Henrietta lax Um. The
Speaker 1: thing is another part of Civil where they talk about
Speaker 1: how people believe that the only cases Ben Crump fights
Speaker 1: are things that's in the media, like, Oh, he's just
Speaker 1: looking for attention, He's just going for the highest number.
Speaker 1: Guess what. Henrietta Lacks was a little old lady that
Speaker 1: her daughter in law happened to be at an event
Speaker 1: and while she's sitting in the midst of this luncheon,
Speaker 1: she hears a doctor talking about, uh, some cells that
Speaker 1: they got from an elderly woman's body, and and she's
Speaker 1: and he's explaining the story. And I don't know, of course,
Speaker 1: because I've never talked to his daughter, nor have I
Speaker 1: really really researched enough about what happened that triggered her
Speaker 1: to ask more questions. But it's clear that the research
Speaker 1: went on from there and come to find out it
Speaker 1: was her mother in law's body that was extract These cells,
Speaker 1: which they call immortal cells, were extracted from So now
Speaker 1: think about that. Who the heck knows a lady named
Speaker 1: Henrietta Lacks who was born in Virginia moved to Baltimore
Speaker 1: like nob but yet and still they got in touch
Speaker 1: for being crump and he is suing Johns Hopkins University
Speaker 1: because a doctor from Johns Hopkins from the hospital there
Speaker 1: is responsible for um, you know, taking this woman's cells.
Speaker 1: So this that is crazy. But you know what my sign.
Speaker 1: Organ harvesting is the thing though, that's the thing, that
Speaker 1: is the thing. It's a real thing. And a lot
Speaker 1: of people say that's what a lot of these kidnappings
Speaker 1: and you know, missing people are that people are kidnapping
Speaker 1: and taking people for orients. And then they also say
Speaker 1: their bodies when you bury your bodies, that you gotta
Speaker 1: come back and check because the August organ harvesting, they're
Speaker 1: taking the organs out of the body. I know, somebody
Speaker 1: said that they had to re dig up a body
Speaker 1: because they needed to do some DNA research. In all
Speaker 1: have been removed everything, there was nothing but the shell
Speaker 1: of the body. So this is the thing, and it's crazy.
Speaker 1: And they said that these organs are very very expensive.
Speaker 1: It works a lot of money. The same thing happened
Speaker 1: to what's his name, Kendrick Johnson that was killed in
Speaker 1: Lalvasta or Valdasta, Baldasta, Georgia, where they found his body
Speaker 1: wrapped up in a map behind the bleachers UM and
Speaker 1: come to find out, the two people who are suspected
Speaker 1: to have been involved their their students. Also this was
Speaker 1: this was a high school student and these high school's
Speaker 1: athletes um and these other kids are also high school students,
Speaker 1: and where they found the body and the whole story
Speaker 1: it points directly to these two young men who father
Speaker 1: or grandfather is worked at one time for the FBI.
Speaker 1: So but when they did find his body and you
Speaker 1: know his parents and had their own autopsy, his organs
Speaker 1: have been removed. Even his fingers nails have been clipped,
Speaker 1: like the butts of his fingers were gone because they,
Speaker 1: you know, we're trying to get rid of evidence. So,
Speaker 1: as you said, this is a real thing. It's unbelievable, man.
Speaker 1: So this Henrietta lacked situation. When I when I heard it,
Speaker 1: it was just weird. It was like, what's the what
Speaker 1: is the chances that someone's daughter in law? It's somewhere
Speaker 1: and they're just hearing somebody speaking and she realizes that
Speaker 1: it would be her, you know, somebody, her husband's family, Like,
Speaker 1: what is the what is the chances of that? Mm hmm, Well,
Speaker 1: I think that the chances are nothing, but God that
Speaker 1: that that these people have to be exposed for what
Speaker 1: they've what they've done to us, and what they continue
Speaker 1: to do. And so now there has to be a
Speaker 1: reckoning and they God, she was there, she did hear it.
Speaker 1: I think this happened seventy years ago. You know, so
Speaker 1: this has been a thing for me. It's like why
Speaker 1: why why does it taking too long for you to
Speaker 1: acknowledge that this is just completely wrong? And the family?
Speaker 1: Why do you ask why? I asked why this said,
Speaker 1: like why do we go through like this? Like why
Speaker 1: why is their processes they're taking this long? That we
Speaker 1: have America? It's America, That's why it's America. But anyway,
Speaker 1: with that being said, I don't know, I don't even know.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to talk about all the things.
Speaker 1: There's so many things. Okay, I don't know, but I'm
Speaker 1: glad to know that finally there's some movement on the
Speaker 1: Henrietta Lacked situation and hopefully it will expose, as you said,
Speaker 1: this issue of Oregon harvesting, which of course they're doing
Speaker 1: it to black people the most. That's why we were
Speaker 1: so heavily involved in fighting for um what's the name
Speaker 1: of the little the the oh god it baby Rock,
Speaker 1: baby i'm in Raw and his sister, because remember they
Speaker 1: were taken from their family, from the mother and father,
Speaker 1: and the internet went crazy. Tatiana, I leave the actress
Speaker 1: hit us up like, hey, I need you guys to
Speaker 1: help me bring some light to this situation. And once
Speaker 1: once you get more involved with the activists, the CPS activists,
Speaker 1: which is the Child Protective Servitive Services activists, there are
Speaker 1: kids being taken from their parents every single day, and
Speaker 1: I mean in situations like we know that what happened
Speaker 1: I'm in Rob was crazy. It was crazy. Instead of
Speaker 1: the system giving them help for the right nutritional diet
Speaker 1: to support them take you know, being vegan and still breastfeeding,
Speaker 1: and he may not have been getting all the vitamins
Speaker 1: he needed because you know, breast milk. Uh. If you
Speaker 1: if you're in your body if you don't have certain things.
Speaker 1: Of course, it's not translating to the baby properly. That
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you take them off the breast. It means
Speaker 1: that the doctor has to give you a regiment that's
Speaker 1: necessary for you to be as healthy as possible to
Speaker 1: make the baby healthy. But they don't work with you
Speaker 1: as a vegan because they want you to buy formally.
Speaker 1: And so it's all. It's all, you know, these people
Speaker 1: have had so long my son to be intentional, very
Speaker 1: very intentional about what they are doing. They are so
Speaker 1: damn intentional about it, I'll tell you. But anyway, you know,
Speaker 1: it's funny because as I'm sitting here talking to you
Speaker 1: in real time, we wanna put the child's name on
Speaker 1: the internet because i mean, on on our show out
Speaker 1: of respect for the parents. But we are very close
Speaker 1: to a woman whose child has been being attacked in school,
Speaker 1: bullied and beat up for the last two years, and
Speaker 1: the school in the last incident where multiple children jumped him,
Speaker 1: this school did not even want I mean, at that
Speaker 1: point the mom was like, I'm gonna have people arrested
Speaker 1: because she didn't know what she doesn't know what else
Speaker 1: to do. The school is not really doing anything about it.
Speaker 1: And these kids have been beating up on this particular
Speaker 1: child and torturing him. And the crazy thing is she
Speaker 1: moved to a better neighborhood, hoping to move him away
Speaker 1: from the things that was happening where we all live,
Speaker 1: and it hasn't helped. And so long story short, she's
Speaker 1: and the school refused to turn over the children. They
Speaker 1: don't even want to. They won't even bring the parents
Speaker 1: together for a meeting. They will not even bring the
Speaker 1: parents together for a meeting because they have found that
Speaker 1: they could be more fights between parents and they don't
Speaker 1: they don't have to give the names because the protection
Speaker 1: of the system, and you know, all of this other ship.
Speaker 1: And meanwhile, as I'm sitting here and talking to you,
Speaker 1: he had another fight today. He's been fighting his way
Speaker 1: through school for two years and it happened again today.
Speaker 1: It's just and and I feel like, you know, there's
Speaker 1: no excuse for picking up a gun, there's no excuse
Speaker 1: for knives, knives and violence and all of that. But
Speaker 1: I also understand that our system is so messed up
Speaker 1: that if if he was a kid that reacted in
Speaker 1: that way, yeah, sure he would be wrong. And would
Speaker 1: have to suffer the consequences, but we would be able
Speaker 1: to understand that for two years, the system has completely
Speaker 1: failed him then done nothing to protect him. So at
Speaker 1: this point he's got to figure out probably how to
Speaker 1: protect himself and thank himself. Now. Thank god, he has
Speaker 1: the kind of family that's there to support him, and
Speaker 1: he's a good kid, so he would never find himself
Speaker 1: in that situation. But it's not just picking up a gun.
Speaker 1: It's also suicide. It's also you know, depression. All of
Speaker 1: that can happen to somebody and it's the system's fault
Speaker 1: because the system is doing nothing to help him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's actually disheartened and it's sad. He's a good
Speaker 1: kid and just just hearing the way that they're going
Speaker 1: about it. Like usually, you know, when we were in
Speaker 1: school and there were situations, parents were called all parents,
Speaker 1: there was a meeting. We sat down. Your parents looked
Speaker 1: at my parents, we looked at each other, and we
Speaker 1: and we tried to work together to try to stop
Speaker 1: a situation. Like and it said that they think that
Speaker 1: parents are supposed to fight over things that kids are doing.
Speaker 1: Like at some point, somebody's wrong, right and the parents
Speaker 1: should be able to acknowledgate my child. My child is
Speaker 1: the problem here that I'm going to discipline my child,
Speaker 1: I'm going to communicate with you. You let me know
Speaker 1: anytime there's an issue. And that used that used to
Speaker 1: always cut it off for us. You know, when we
Speaker 1: started handling ourselves and there was no parents involved, that
Speaker 1: kept it going. But when parents actually got involved and
Speaker 1: they were in community and they were building with each other,
Speaker 1: I very seldom seen things get out of hand. And
Speaker 1: if you just coming after somebody's child got beat up
Speaker 1: and he comes, they come angry, and there's no liaison
Speaker 1: in between, there's no media that nobody's sitting down and
Speaker 1: trying to talk out and and hash out the situation,
Speaker 1: then that turns into an issue. But to just bring
Speaker 1: two adults together and and and trying to figure out
Speaker 1: the best solution and have y'all working together to try
Speaker 1: to you know, calm a situation that makes sense to me.
Speaker 1: So I don't understand the school's philosophy. I think it's stupid.
Speaker 1: I think it's stupid. I think it's you know, it's counterproductive,
Speaker 1: and it's actually leading to more because but like you said,
Speaker 1: two years your same situation has been a current and
Speaker 1: and whatever the strategy that they're utilizing hasn't worked. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm just, you know, I'm just I don't know. Man,
Speaker 1: so much going on. Man, I was, I was at
Speaker 1: I was at Kingdom yesterday, dope event basketball. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm always a basketball fan in New York. Kingdom was
Speaker 1: super dope, no problems seeing Hallom model. It was like
Speaker 1: the old Hallom back in the days, like Grant's tune
Speaker 1: in Hollow Week just gave you that feel. And then
Speaker 1: I go home and then they say way away from
Speaker 1: each other, which has nothing to do with it. Somewhere
Speaker 1: else and people get shot and killed. Some one person
Speaker 1: that's killed, they said, a young boy who ironically was
Speaker 1: a basketball star is shot and murdered. And now none
Speaker 1: other people are injured. It's just so many things going
Speaker 1: on at one time. You know, you just you want,
Speaker 1: like you want to be able to enjoy the good things,
Speaker 1: and then there's some negative that comes. Man. We just
Speaker 1: we need to or we need to reckon it. We
Speaker 1: need a a wash like we need to. We need
Speaker 1: we need to very put the whole city and some
Speaker 1: holy water man and just some sage. We need to
Speaker 1: walk around the streets with sage. Well, I mean, that's
Speaker 1: not really a bad idea. But I will say is
Speaker 1: that I am predicting that no eat that all the
Speaker 1: efforts that we are taking, which we now are starting
Speaker 1: out mid night marches, um, you know, we're fighting for resources,
Speaker 1: we're doing all the things. I mean. I was having
Speaker 1: a conversation with the New New York tsar as you
Speaker 1: mentioned a t mitchell Um for violence. I was talking
Speaker 1: to him this morning and he was like, you know,
Speaker 1: nine people shot in any place from a federal government perspective,
Speaker 1: is a mass shooting that requires mental health services. The
Speaker 1: truck should be set up, the media should be there,
Speaker 1: there should be supplies, everything that's needed should be poured
Speaker 1: into the community. And they don't do that for us
Speaker 1: because they don't see our lives the same, which is
Speaker 1: why they moved on so quickly from Buffalo. Move right on,
Speaker 1: because it's it's just you know, black folks. And the
Speaker 1: only thing that makes it a little bit more spicy
Speaker 1: is that it is a it was a white supremacist
Speaker 1: who committed that crime. So therefore it helps some of
Speaker 1: the political agenda that the media plays into whichever side
Speaker 1: they may be on. But in our situation, black and
Speaker 1: brown people out there killing each other, all we have is,
Speaker 1: you know, pretty much the Act did the activists and
Speaker 1: you know, the community, and that's really it. And I'm
Speaker 1: predicting that no matter how much work we do, this
Speaker 1: particular summer is gonna probably be one of the worst
Speaker 1: summers that we've experienced in a long time in terms
Speaker 1: of violent crime. I think that we have the ability
Speaker 1: to turn it around by the time that, you know,
Speaker 1: the new year comes around and we get towards the
Speaker 1: next summer. But right now, it's it's gonna take some
Speaker 1: real brick and martel work. People gonna have to roll
Speaker 1: their sleeves up and be outside, literally out in the street.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna solve this from behind the computer, doing
Speaker 1: a show, talking on the radio, put even right in
Speaker 1: the check It's that's gonna be a little part of
Speaker 1: it and and important, but it ain't gonna be the
Speaker 1: whole thing. Yeah, it's gonna I said that yesterday at
Speaker 1: the rally. Is gonna take It's gonna take a combined
Speaker 1: efforts because it's because it's not a sprint, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a marathon. It's gonna take every it's gonna be
Speaker 1: Lottie Doddy and everybody's gonna have to be there. We're
Speaker 1: gonna need activist community people. We're gonna need former game people.
Speaker 1: We're gonna need current game people. We're gonna need youth,
Speaker 1: we're gonna need old We're gonna need every dimension of
Speaker 1: our community to come together to put this a denting
Speaker 1: with it because there's so much trauma and there's so
Speaker 1: much normalization of violence at this point right violence has
Speaker 1: become so normal. Like I'll be watching and I see kids,
Speaker 1: kids were shooting at the priests in front the priest
Speaker 1: and just walking by and they just decided they're gonna
Speaker 1: have a shootout in front of the preset, and it's like,
Speaker 1: I want to understand the ration now or just to
Speaker 1: mind state when I used to work by a priest,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do anything leave Like as soon
Speaker 1: as I've seen the police call, it kind of deterred me.
Speaker 1: These kids, you know, and in this generation, are not
Speaker 1: deterred by anything. So that's why I know that law
Speaker 1: and force usman can't stop to shoot them because they're
Speaker 1: not even deterred by the law enforcement. It's gonna take
Speaker 1: a new influence. It's gonna be the the culture has
Speaker 1: to shift to say that shooting and violencing these things
Speaker 1: are not okay, They're not cool. It has to be
Speaker 1: frowned upon. The culture has to say it together in
Speaker 1: order for it to change, you know, because these kids
Speaker 1: don't care about what law enforcement does or things. You know,
Speaker 1: some of them, actually, I feel like when like I
Speaker 1: remember we were young, I said all the time when
Speaker 1: you went to jail was like a badger honor. So
Speaker 1: some of them feel like it adds to their quote
Speaker 1: unquote reputation when they do sometime in prison. But when
Speaker 1: they what they don't realize is that when you're not
Speaker 1: coming home and you're doing twenty and twenty five and
Speaker 1: thirty and forty years in prison, its just it's completely
Speaker 1: you're losing your life. And they find that out within
Speaker 1: the first couple of years in prison. So my our
Speaker 1: job is to make sure that they don't have to
Speaker 1: find that out. That no one has to lose their life.
Speaker 1: No one has to lose you know. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: but it's gonna take a real consulted effort in a
Speaker 1: combination of all of our skill sets, understandings, emotions, feelings
Speaker 1: and passions to really put it there in this Today
Speaker 1: we've got a guest of all guests and uh coming
Speaker 1: and joining Street Politicians. I've no idea why this is
Speaker 1: the first time that Roland Martin is on Street Politicians,
Speaker 1: But you know, yeah, I agree, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: have no I think it's my songs fault man. Definitely.
Speaker 1: I definitely said Rolling should have been here about at
Speaker 1: least three shows already. I think sometimes sometimes I think
Speaker 1: I purposely have not invited Rolling because I'm like, he's
Speaker 1: gonna be too hard, and I if we can't even
Speaker 1: I can't handle Rolling on this topic. But now I'm
Speaker 1: too hard. I'm happy to have you on to my
Speaker 1: Haitie Freedom shared on the day, so so people will
Speaker 1: know who you are working. We're shooting some problems, we're
Speaker 1: shooting some promos, and so I'm gonna where the June
Speaker 1: teenth shirt on the show. But I figured I work
Speaker 1: in the Haiti shirt. Now wear June teenth on the
Speaker 1: head man. You know you, we we know that's the
Speaker 1: reason why we asked you to come and be on today.
Speaker 1: It was perfect because you are from Texas and raised
Speaker 1: and when folks are talking about June tea. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure people really understand all the history. You said something
Speaker 1: the other day that really triggered me, which is that
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty, Texas acknowledged June Team. So already in
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty Texas was there, you know, that became the
Speaker 1: first state to make Juneteenth a state holiday. I gotta
Speaker 1: give up to my alpha pa Alpha fa turned the
Speaker 1: brother of the late state of Riginia, Alt Edwards. He's
Speaker 1: known as the father of June teenth. He pushed this
Speaker 1: issue for years. He was the one that got it
Speaker 1: over the hump. So June teeth had been celebrated for
Speaker 1: all of those years since eighteen sixty in Texas, but
Speaker 1: he officially became a say holiday in nineteen eighty. And
Speaker 1: so those of us, uh from Houston, from Texas, you know,
Speaker 1: we take June teeh real personal and we were piste off.
Speaker 1: We were piste off and a lot of people we're
Speaker 1: talking trash by saying who asked for this? We don't
Speaker 1: need this, because they had no understanding of what June
Speaker 1: teenth meant to us. June Team was always about uh
Speaker 1: self reliance, about empowerment. It was always it wasn't just
Speaker 1: concerts and barbecues. He was also always voter registration. It
Speaker 1: was always enlightenment. Uh. And I think what we are
Speaker 1: not experiencing. You're now seeing why people have no clue
Speaker 1: about history. Even the great size is bi ll Not
Speaker 1: has got his butt kicked on social media in the
Speaker 1: last twenty four hours because he claimed that, uh, June
Speaker 1: team freed the slaves. But no, it didn't. People also
Speaker 1: used to say, oh, y'all black goes in Texas, y'all
Speaker 1: were so late. Y'all found out two years late. No,
Speaker 1: it was issued January eight six three, but it was
Speaker 1: unenforceable because they need control in the Federate States. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then of course the war didn't end until April
Speaker 1: of eighteen sixty five. And then of course with General
Speaker 1: Granger comes in June sixty five. But anybody who's still
Speaker 1: running around talking about, oh, they freed the slaves, not true.
Speaker 1: It was in December when the thirteenth Amendment was actually
Speaker 1: a past that actually what officially in the slavery And
Speaker 1: but then again it didn't officially in slavery because slavery
Speaker 1: is still on the books because we have other thing
Speaker 1: called the prison systems. And so what I am hopeful
Speaker 1: and we're already seeing it is that by June Tea
Speaker 1: now being a national federal holiday, we're going to have
Speaker 1: people who now forced to actually learn American history and
Speaker 1: know what the hell actually happened in this country and
Speaker 1: not just believe of the fictionalized version or or the
Speaker 1: half story. We've often been told, well tell me something
Speaker 1: real quick. And I know, my son, you have uh
Speaker 1: question as well. But what did June Teeth look like
Speaker 1: in Texas all these years? Like now we see off
Speaker 1: businesses closed, government agencies closed. It was that. So everything
Speaker 1: you're seeing the federal level you saw in Texas. Uh.
Speaker 1: I mean you had again, you had businesses that closed,
Speaker 1: you had celebrations, you had commemorations. Uh you you you
Speaker 1: had you had outdoor concert. I mean, so all this
Speaker 1: stuff that you're sting the national level, because you gotta remember,
Speaker 1: other black people in other states began to also have
Speaker 1: June Team celebrations. So June Teeth you saw, you saw
Speaker 1: stuff in North Carolina, South Carolina, and so it began
Speaker 1: to be embracing other all across the South, other parts
Speaker 1: of the country, and so it became a theme. And
Speaker 1: that's why when um it then when it when they
Speaker 1: got elevated, there was just talk about making the national holiday.
Speaker 1: That's because June Team had already being celebrated in twenty
Speaker 1: plus states, and so it is become a thing, and
Speaker 1: people have to understand this is the only this is
Speaker 1: the only national event that even recognizes mentions are invoked
Speaker 1: slavery m And so when I hear people say we
Speaker 1: didn't ask for this, I need people to understand that
Speaker 1: it's our opportunity to how we also use this So
Speaker 1: CNN and at the big concert from the Hollywood Bowl,
Speaker 1: and that's great, but how are you using those same
Speaker 1: airways to educate people on the actual story, the actual history.
Speaker 1: You got everybody piste off from the Kohenah Jones and
Speaker 1: the sixteen nine team project. Uh, And they've picked off
Speaker 1: the black historians like um, you know, like Dr gred
Speaker 1: Car and uh, like uh and so many others who
Speaker 1: have been talking about these things for years. But this
Speaker 1: is the opportunity for us to educate, not as African Americans,
Speaker 1: educate all Americans, because too often we've had really a
Speaker 1: a horrible, horrible history lesson in this country because we
Speaker 1: haven't been wanting to tell the true story all of it,
Speaker 1: and so this is the opportunity that we actually had.
Speaker 1: So listening to you, you said that the thirteenth Amendment
Speaker 1: was what actually was the freedom. So the proclamation didn't
Speaker 1: free to slaves. No, the proclamation only applied to slavery
Speaker 1: in the states that were in rebellion, the Confederate States.
Speaker 1: But the proclamation also exempted certain border states like Maryland
Speaker 1: and Missouri, so that as a basal proclamation did it
Speaker 1: wasn't like this freees all slaves in America. No, it
Speaker 1: was specific to the states that were in rebellion, and
Speaker 1: then there were still exemptions, so slavery still continue after
Speaker 1: eighteen sixty three. Then it wasn't until a from ninth,
Speaker 1: eighteen sixty five when the Confederates when they surrendered that
Speaker 1: then it applied to those states. But in Texas they
Speaker 1: that they resisted that and they kept it going for
Speaker 1: two more months, and that's when General Granger and those
Speaker 1: black troops came in in eighteen sixty five and said, no,
Speaker 1: you're actually free. Because they had to send those federal
Speaker 1: troops to different states to notify the people of the
Speaker 1: formerly enslaved people of African descent. But again even then
Speaker 1: even then, slavery was not illegal. It wasn't until the
Speaker 1: thirteenth Amendment, the first of the three Reconstruction Amendments fourteen
Speaker 1: and fiftieth Amendment. But even when the thirteenth Amendment was passed,
Speaker 1: it allowed for slavery in volunteers, the involunteering service, whatever
Speaker 1: you wanna call it, for the Constitution reads. So slavery
Speaker 1: in America still exists in our prison systems. Right, that's
Speaker 1: why we ask why to maka, You and I have
Speaker 1: just talked about this beforehand, while we have to deal
Speaker 1: with this issue. So, like I personally believe that companies
Speaker 1: should not be using prison labor because, if we understand
Speaker 1: our history, after after the Reconstruction period, those same racist
Speaker 1: Southern plantation owners needed black folks to work the land.
Speaker 1: So the Panics system came into place. So they literally
Speaker 1: created systems to keep people black people enslaved. And so
Speaker 1: then you had all of these laws, these these these
Speaker 1: minor and fractions that lad the long prison terms to
Speaker 1: keep people of African ascent still working the land. And
Speaker 1: so that's why if you read the book um um
Speaker 1: uh God, why is it? Why is it escaping me? Uh?
Speaker 1: And I follow him want to pull a surprise. That's
Speaker 1: why I always say it's called slavery without shackles. Uh,
Speaker 1: Jim Crow with slavery without shackles. Right, The system still exist,
Speaker 1: sharecropping still exists. About Savory by another name, yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: name yeah. And Alexander right yeah no, no, no, no no,
Speaker 1: he's a reporter with the US the Land of Constitution. Um. Yeah, so,
Speaker 1: but but that's what I'm always telling people that, um,
Speaker 1: look understand what happened after Douglas Black Douglas Black slave
Speaker 1: by another name, UM called the reenslavement of black Americans
Speaker 1: from a civil world World War two. That's called slave
Speaker 1: without shops and so, which now means if we're having
Speaker 1: this June tenth conversation and we're discussing the mass based proclamation,
Speaker 1: we're discussing the PEAT system, we're discussing this now we're
Speaker 1: getting into the economics. Now, I would see that's that's
Speaker 1: that's why can the holiday. I want us to go
Speaker 1: there to talk about the commemoration side and the commitment side,
Speaker 1: because we've been you've been talking about equity, right, like
Speaker 1: that's what makes this whole thing important. But before you
Speaker 1: go there, we're still on the historic piece. Right, So
Speaker 1: we so right now, what we're learning is that there
Speaker 1: were many layers and levels to what freedom was supposed
Speaker 1: to be. But you're saying that the folks in Texas.
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure we're clear on this.
Speaker 1: The folks in Texas is not that they were just
Speaker 1: late and slow, but there was an actual attempt to
Speaker 1: stop the people from Texas from learning anything about it
Speaker 1: until the Black troops arrived. Now, the question I have
Speaker 1: for you is did the black troops go because I
Speaker 1: think you said they traveled around to many places where
Speaker 1: there are other states like Texas that they had to
Speaker 1: go to that were late in terms of being free.
Speaker 1: You got to remember remember during that period, um those
Speaker 1: othern states resisted, so they placed federal troops in state
Speaker 1: capitals to make sure those state lawmakers did not continue
Speaker 1: with the level of racism. So remember reconstruction last ten
Speaker 1: twelve years. The D. D. Dubos book put it at
Speaker 1: twenty years. But so when you got to the election
Speaker 1: of eighteen seventy six, the catestity election, So the Great
Speaker 1: Compromise of eighteen seventy seven was all right, we're gonna
Speaker 1: let Hayes become president. We Southern Democrats. We promised to
Speaker 1: leave the Negroes alone, so we need y'all to withdraw
Speaker 1: the last There were three states where Southern where federal
Speaker 1: troops remained in the state capital to keep those Southern
Speaker 1: states from essentially reimposing slavery. So the deal was cut
Speaker 1: in eighteen So that's what it's called the Great Compromise
Speaker 1: of eighteen seventy seven. Well, black Republicans blasted their own
Speaker 1: party for agreeing to that deal. It was a contested
Speaker 1: election in eighteen seventy six, So the deal was Southern
Speaker 1: Democrats said, I will let the Republican Hayes becomes president,
Speaker 1: but y'all a got to agree to remove the federal
Speaker 1: troops from the last three Southern states. The Republicans agreed
Speaker 1: to that the worst decision ever because the moment they
Speaker 1: did that, those racist Southern Democrats immediately reimposed Jim Crow.
Speaker 1: And that's the That was the beginning of Jim Crow,
Speaker 1: which lasted for the next ninety two years. And that's
Speaker 1: what you saw. A systematic You saw a systematic change.
Speaker 1: Just remember get Great Comments of eighteen seventy seven. You
Speaker 1: had a Supreme Court in the place in verse for
Speaker 1: a furgus of decision. But then you get the Supreme
Speaker 1: Court invalidating the Civil Rights Act I think was eighteen
Speaker 1: seventy five, where they literally ruled Congress could not outlaw discrimination,
Speaker 1: and the Supreme Court opened that particular door. And then
Speaker 1: you had those black state legislators who were then kicked
Speaker 1: out of Congress, kicked out of the United States Senate.
Speaker 1: And then, of course in e. T. Ninety you the
Speaker 1: Mississippi Constitutional Convention where they said, we are tired of
Speaker 1: black people getting elected the state wide office, and so
Speaker 1: they changed the constitution Mississippi. And there was a guy
Speaker 1: in Isaiah T. Montgomery and African American. He was the
Speaker 1: only black person who was attending it. He voted, along
Speaker 1: with those races to strip the power of the vote
Speaker 1: from black people. And as a result, that's why whenever you,
Speaker 1: whenever we call O, I don't use words like uncle
Speaker 1: Tom sellout o yo, I don't use it. I don't
Speaker 1: allow those to be used. But when I see there
Speaker 1: as a black Republican, who will who will? Who will?
Speaker 1: Who will this black folks? I called them a modern
Speaker 1: day Isaiah T. Montgomery, And he owned businesses and and
Speaker 1: he here this day, his name is mud in Mississippi
Speaker 1: because of that decision. But they were angry with black advancement.
Speaker 1: And the thing that to me, because that people don't
Speaker 1: understand that it's so frustrating, is that Yo, after after
Speaker 1: methanmist proculamation, in any of the Civil War, black people
Speaker 1: stop start getting elected. And if you read James D.
Speaker 1: Anderson's book The Education of Blacks in the South eighteen
Speaker 1: sixty nineteen thirty, what you will realize is that black
Speaker 1: people put in the state constitution in the South for
Speaker 1: publicly financed education. Those were black let's legislators. And when
Speaker 1: they booted all the black folks out and change the laws,
Speaker 1: they kept that provision right there. So we ow freed
Speaker 1: slaves for they're being taxpyer funded education uh in the
Speaker 1: South as a result of them being elected to office.
Speaker 1: And so all of that, all of that history, um
Speaker 1: is really a part of June tenth and so this
Speaker 1: this constant battle for either So it wasn't that they
Speaker 1: were free, No, they were free from being enslaved, but
Speaker 1: they were still not free. So what we have in
Speaker 1: Texas have been saying all these years that we are
Speaker 1: in a constant battle for freedom, that we still are
Speaker 1: not free. We simply were no longer enslaved. Am So
Speaker 1: what do you think that we should be doing now?
Speaker 1: How should we be commemorating June teams Like as as
Speaker 1: a people, we should be the next step there too,
Speaker 1: There's a we should be commemorating and celebrating, but there
Speaker 1: should be a mission involved politically registering people to vote. Two,
Speaker 1: we should be creating freedom schools where we literally are
Speaker 1: teaching this history. Uh, those freedom school existed in the
Speaker 1: civil rights movement, and in fact, Marry and Right Elements
Speaker 1: Group Children's Defense Fund they actually still do the freedom
Speaker 1: schools that they do the training at Alex Haley's former
Speaker 1: farm in Tennessee. Um and funny because I was on
Speaker 1: the train with her from New York and she told
Speaker 1: me about that and I didn't even know that, And
Speaker 1: I said, wild, Marian, I literally have been talking about
Speaker 1: freedom schools and my speeches for a decade. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about how we needed that. But thirdly, we should be
Speaker 1: using June tieth is black economics in terms of we
Speaker 1: should be saying and again I'm being very I have
Speaker 1: I don't care. We should be saying if you're having events,
Speaker 1: are you using black caterers, black transportation companies, black pr companies,
Speaker 1: black event planners, black audio visual companies, black videographers, and
Speaker 1: all of that. Because I've long said America has never
Speaker 1: really had a problem with black people. We made America money.
Speaker 1: The problem is we never benefited economically from this, and
Speaker 1: so this should be an economic conversation. That also was
Speaker 1: a thing that we talked about that we also understood
Speaker 1: in as well. This is about economics. This is about
Speaker 1: ensuring that we're not throwing parties and then we're not
Speaker 1: benefiting from it. We have to contend with this wealth gap,
Speaker 1: this black wealth gap that is one tenth that of
Speaker 1: whites in this country. And that mean and it's yes,
Speaker 1: I totally understand people with the reparations argument and the
Speaker 1: reparations debate that's going on, but that's still hoping trying
Speaker 1: to convince somebody to actually pass reparations. I'm going after
Speaker 1: the money that's on the table right now. And and
Speaker 1: and my and again, where I am is where King was?
Speaker 1: You read that April third nine speech and listen to it.
Speaker 1: It's a forty three minute and sixteen second speech. We
Speaker 1: get caught up in. I've been to the mountaintop. I've
Speaker 1: seen the promised land No No, No, No, go back,
Speaker 1: where he talked about redistribute the pain. We've talked about
Speaker 1: supporting black businesses, where we've talked about going to places
Speaker 1: and shopping where they respect at us, employing us. Go
Speaker 1: back and read Martin Depp's book on Operation and bread
Speaker 1: Basket uh in nineteen sixty nineteen seventy one, and look
Speaker 1: at that particular book where they talked about what they
Speaker 1: did and how when they when they went after those companies,
Speaker 1: they were asking them to hire black people in senior management,
Speaker 1: hired black people on frontline jobs, invest money in black banks,
Speaker 1: hired black companies as contractors. And so part of the
Speaker 1: problem that I think that we've had is we've gotten
Speaker 1: so caught up and solely social justice, criminal justice reform,
Speaker 1: voting rights, which are all important. But if you do
Speaker 1: not deal with the money, then you're not actually dealing
Speaker 1: with America. America is about the money. There is one
Speaker 1: federal agency that shares along with the White House. You
Speaker 1: can they can literally play flag football together. You walk
Speaker 1: a hundred steps out of this building, you're in the
Speaker 1: East wing. That's the partner of treasure. White Houses power, treasury,
Speaker 1: his money. And so that's the thing that we have
Speaker 1: to be on. And so I don't talk about money
Speaker 1: as this is a love of money. But every problem
Speaker 1: that we talked about finances has a direct correlation to
Speaker 1: that issue. We said it all the time. You just
Speaker 1: said they didn't they didn't feel more in the dreamer.
Speaker 1: They got mad when he woke up. You know, they
Speaker 1: want to give us the dreamer and tell us. You
Speaker 1: never tell us about when he woke up. But here's
Speaker 1: a deal, though. He's a deal. Though. Even even if
Speaker 1: you use that about took out the dream, the same
Speaker 1: folk didn't even lets to that speech. That was a
Speaker 1: radical economic speech. But seeing again, so I'm gonna use
Speaker 1: it this way. The dream part of King's speech is
Speaker 1: the hoop part of a preconcern. Oh that's when he started.
Speaker 1: He's he he's, he's you know, he's rhyming and and
Speaker 1: and and the organis is playing. But so when Turks
Speaker 1: always was a man passed to preach that thing, and
Speaker 1: he say what did he preach about? And he got
Speaker 1: three point and then they say, I don't really know, man,
Speaker 1: he preached that thing, which means you can't tell me
Speaker 1: the scripture and you can't tell me the three points.
Speaker 1: But you got caught up in the hoop part, so
Speaker 1: that I have a dream the mountaintop. That's the hoop part.
Speaker 1: But the whole part, the whope part, whop and hope
Speaker 1: if we can put those things together right. But that's
Speaker 1: the that's that, that's the wet it. You can't see that.
Speaker 1: That's that makes you feel good part. But you've got
Speaker 1: to deal with the CSIS or the scripture, which is
Speaker 1: what he laid out when he said they gave us
Speaker 1: a checkstamp insufficient funds. And so that was the whole deal.
Speaker 1: So the battle for the four acres in the middle,
Speaker 1: the battle for right land rights, uh, the amount of
Speaker 1: black land that was stolen in this country. Black people
Speaker 1: who were literally run out of Arkansas, Mississippi, in Texas
Speaker 1: and Alabama, fleeing racism, fleeing uh you know, black black
Speaker 1: husband's uh, running out because they said we will kill
Speaker 1: you if y'all stick around. Black people literally left acres
Speaker 1: of land because of safety. When you think about Tulsa,
Speaker 1: when you think about the brother who owned the black
Speaker 1: newspaper who fled from Tulsa, and then they tell to
Speaker 1: blame it on him, and he opened a black newspaper
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. That's economics. And so this is what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. How and so many of our people ain't
Speaker 1: got no clue about any of this, And so I
Speaker 1: want us to use June King and Black History Month
Speaker 1: and m OK's birthday to expand this. I keep telling people,
Speaker 1: don't play I have a dream for the mountaintop a
Speaker 1: part at any m o K event unless you go
Speaker 1: play the other part. Let me let me so that
Speaker 1: I gotta go all the way back. This is the end.
Speaker 1: We're done. We at the end of your education. Today
Speaker 1: out and told you that your new job is to
Speaker 1: start some type of educational forum, if you will, or activists,
Speaker 1: young activists where they can hear that. Because it's one
Speaker 1: thing to put a book in someone's team. You've been
Speaker 1: giving me books to read, and I've been reading along
Speaker 1: for a while, Tiffany offten, we read along. But it
Speaker 1: is something else to hear you say the things that
Speaker 1: you just said and then get interested enough where you
Speaker 1: want to be fed more. And that's the core, and
Speaker 1: that's what drives people to read. I had when we
Speaker 1: did a session together uh last week on team with Infocis,
Speaker 1: and when you got off, they asked me. A woman
Speaker 1: said that she was struggling with helping getting her children,
Speaker 1: especially her sons, to sit down and read. She said,
Speaker 1: it's really difficult. It's the hardest part of their educational experience.
Speaker 1: And what I said to her is it's the content.
Speaker 1: It's what you're giving them to read. To your point
Speaker 1: after school at Hollid, if you want them to read,
Speaker 1: you have to be able to give them things that
Speaker 1: it's interesting. Well, the thing about what you're doing in
Speaker 1: terms of educating people is you make folks interested enough
Speaker 1: to go read the content, right, the material they don't
Speaker 1: want to just read when you're telling them that basically
Speaker 1: white people had everything. Black folks was just slaves and
Speaker 1: there's not no stories except Martin, Luther, King and Roll
Speaker 1: and that's the end of the history. Lesson. But that's
Speaker 1: not what I want to talk about. I'm going back
Speaker 1: to your first point about people who said we don't
Speaker 1: need June team. I didn't say we don't need you team,
Speaker 1: but I was certainly one of those saying we are
Speaker 1: calling for this, this and this criminal justice issues. We're
Speaker 1: calling for marijuana reform, we want people released. We all
Speaker 1: of it. We want gun money for gun violence, and
Speaker 1: y'all giving us this holiday. And what we were concerned
Speaker 1: about is that you could get a holiday and not
Speaker 1: get the other legislative items that need to move that
Speaker 1: brings down. So we already understand. You know that, and
Speaker 1: you agree with that. But also you're saying Juneteenth is
Speaker 1: important because it forces us to have those other conversations.
Speaker 1: It forces people to say, if you believe in observing
Speaker 1: the holiday, then you shouldn't believe in giving us what
Speaker 1: Juneteenth is supposed to be about. That's not even my point.
Speaker 1: I saw, uh in the last couple of days that
Speaker 1: you were in a heated exchange with other people that
Speaker 1: I respect intellectually on Twitter. Y'all were going back and
Speaker 1: forth about the Asian hate bill versus the African American
Speaker 1: hate bill. And I see both sides. I see you
Speaker 1: saying that under the Civil Rights um, the Civil rights
Speaker 1: what is it called the Civil Civil Rights Act, that's
Speaker 1: the word um, that it does cover hate crime issues, right.
Speaker 1: But then I see these individuals saying, well, how come
Speaker 1: we can get an Asian bill, an lgbt Q I
Speaker 1: A bill. Now I have checked this out I know
Speaker 1: the Asian Bill happened. You got Mitch McConnell's wife, an
Speaker 1: Asian woman. You've got a whole Congress that was on
Speaker 1: the same page about voting for the Asian hate bill.
Speaker 1: But black folks do want to see, just like we
Speaker 1: got June Tea. They want to see something that says
Speaker 1: African American portex Just skip one, skip one. The Matthew
Speaker 1: Shepherd James Bird Act. Oh, I see, I don't know
Speaker 1: that one. Tell me that was that was a hate
Speaker 1: crimes bill. It was named after Matthew Shepherd, the uh,
Speaker 1: the gay young man who was killed, and James Bird.
Speaker 1: It is called the Matthew Shepherd James Bird Hate that
Speaker 1: and it's and that's again that's specifically named after gay
Speaker 1: white boy and a black man. And it was and
Speaker 1: that was in response to hate crimes. And so what
Speaker 1: people have to understand is that and and that's why
Speaker 1: I walk people through the impetus for the COVID nineteen
Speaker 1: Hate Act was the attack on Asians. That was the impetus.
Speaker 1: But the impetus does not mean it's only for them
Speaker 1: or it was only about them. So this year is
Speaker 1: the fiftieth anniversary of Title nine. Right, if you're a woman,
Speaker 1: you're like, man, I'm glad we have Title nine. Title
Speaker 1: nine wasn't about sports. Title nine actually was about opening
Speaker 1: the professional schools two women. So you had an explosion
Speaker 1: of women, doctors, dentists, lawyers, engineers. You name it because
Speaker 1: of Title nine, asked the average person where the town
Speaker 1: nine comes from. It is a provision of the Civil
Speaker 1: Rights Act. As somebody as somebody who's disabled with the
Speaker 1: with the American Disabilities Act. Do you know how that
Speaker 1: got passed. It's a provision of the Civil Rights It's act.
Speaker 1: But listen, I gotta add one thing. Add one thing.
Speaker 1: Why were women even put in the Civil Rights Act?
Speaker 1: Because the racist state representative out of Virginia, I think
Speaker 1: his last name was Smith, he thought that's what was
Speaker 1: gonna kill the ability to put women in. In fact,
Speaker 1: it got more votes. So what people are arguing when
Speaker 1: they say they want to see a specific deal for us,
Speaker 1: you can't. Laws that are passed by Congress don't apply
Speaker 1: just to one particular group. But that's not when you
Speaker 1: see when you hear the word Asian, right, that's that's
Speaker 1: the particular group agent. It's not in the it's not
Speaker 1: in the build. No it's not bill. No, it's not.
Speaker 1: It is called the COVID nineteen Hate Act. That's what
Speaker 1: the bill is called. It is, it is not, it was,
Speaker 1: it was, it was. It was because you had at
Speaker 1: tax on Asians, is your hat an increase? You had
Speaker 1: individuals who were saying, we need some protection. If you
Speaker 1: actually read the bill, it literally does not apply to
Speaker 1: just Asians. The pretext of the bill describes these things
Speaker 1: that have happened to Asians. But when you read the bill,
Speaker 1: when you read the remedies, the remedies applied to everybody.
Speaker 1: The creation of a database that applies. That's not only
Speaker 1: Asian attacks that go in, that's attacks as any hate
Speaker 1: crime attack going that database. So so when you read
Speaker 1: so so the video, actually it's not a strong bill.
Speaker 1: It doesn't actually do a lot. In fact, the bill
Speaker 1: that was passed by the House after the Buffalo shooting
Speaker 1: actually is a stronger deal against white domestic terrorists black. Basically,
Speaker 1: you're saying the possibility of us is getting a bill
Speaker 1: that says black, it's not gonna happen because because because
Speaker 1: roling before you answer that, the issue is marketing, right,
Speaker 1: You've got the White House using the word Asian. You
Speaker 1: have um, you have also Congress talking about the Asian
Speaker 1: hate crime, and you had the Asian community right being
Speaker 1: very very grateful for what happened, and they're connected officials
Speaker 1: and others stepping forward. Why is it so hard? Because
Speaker 1: now you've got LGBT that's just signed the other day.
Speaker 1: That may not be the name of that, that was
Speaker 1: an executive orders executive What is the problem? And that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I hear you. But how was how
Speaker 1: was civil rights at soul? That was black? Okay? Well,
Speaker 1: but guess what. Guess what? We need it again? We
Speaker 1: need to do it now something again again Okay, but
Speaker 1: but but again Okay, So we want the Civil Rights
Speaker 1: Act again when you already have a civil Rights Act. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know so much about this Civil Rights Act again,
Speaker 1: but I don't okay, So, so what is the bill?
Speaker 1: What does the bill that people want? What's the bill?
Speaker 1: Definitely something around lynchings, because we haven't even passed that,
Speaker 1: have we? No? No, it's pegs aren't been signed the law.
Speaker 1: It's when when was that that was last year? Or
Speaker 1: something that just happened. It just happened right right, right,
Speaker 1: But Okay, but the point they didn't say. They weren't
Speaker 1: walking around saying it's the black anti Lynching bill. They
Speaker 1: never used that language. Every time, it seems like everything
Speaker 1: that has to do with black people, the language that's
Speaker 1: used is inclusive. No no, no, no. The George Floyd
Speaker 1: for perfect example, the George Floyd Justice Act applied, will
Speaker 1: apply to everybody. That bill has actually been positioned essentially
Speaker 1: as a black bill. Okay, but you get no no no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no no no again though, again, this is
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to understand. Do we want do we
Speaker 1: want for remedy or do we want them to say
Speaker 1: black when they actually said black before? Are we saying
Speaker 1: we want to hear the two because again, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: saying I think that, so I'm I'm just I'm saying
Speaker 1: it is Literally, when the Civil Rights Act was passed,
Speaker 1: that was black. When the Matthew Shepherd James James Burt
Speaker 1: Act was passed, that was gay and black. So we've
Speaker 1: actually had it before, so they a problem. The problem.
Speaker 1: The problem is we've actually had deals before where black
Speaker 1: was mentioned. It was called the so called Black Bill
Speaker 1: Voting Rights Act, even though that applies the variety of people.
Speaker 1: That's always been framed as a black issue. And so
Speaker 1: but it sounds to me like people today like, well,
Speaker 1: I wasn't around in I want to hear black now.
Speaker 1: But you act as if that hasn't happened. It's simply
Speaker 1: factually inforrect But but but but I think I think
Speaker 1: it's true that we haven't been around. Right, I'm forty two,
Speaker 1: So the history that you had there is new. There's
Speaker 1: the new information for me to learn every day. But
Speaker 1: what I will say is that the challenges that we're
Speaker 1: facing require new and improved approaches, right, and we know
Speaker 1: that there needs to be new ways, just like just
Speaker 1: like the George Floyd Justice and Police and Acts had
Speaker 1: to be passed because there needs to be new remedy
Speaker 1: remedies or had to be signed the executive order because
Speaker 1: it needs to be new remedies to deal with policing.
Speaker 1: But it's not enough. We're still dealing with matth. We're
Speaker 1: still so what specifically do we want? Here's here's the deal,
Speaker 1: here's the deal. I don't I don't waste times like yo,
Speaker 1: we need a black bill. Okay, what's the bill? And
Speaker 1: then with some and then what's like, what's the bill.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this, and we're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 1: end this for now. But obviously there's need for much
Speaker 1: more dialogue on screen, off screen, on Twitter, off Twitter,
Speaker 1: because we have to all get educated, because we all
Speaker 1: on the same side. The one thing I will say
Speaker 1: is that in that Asian hate bill, which you said
Speaker 1: is the COVID, hey at, there were resources that was
Speaker 1: specifically earmarked for therapeutic services and you know, and and
Speaker 1: services basically to address dealing with violence within the Asian No,
Speaker 1: that's not true. That is that is not true. Any
Speaker 1: group can apply. No, I'm trying to tell you any
Speaker 1: group can apply for the funds, okay, to help you're
Speaker 1: doing a better job. I'm literally I literally read the
Speaker 1: bill on the air. The woman who actually put the
Speaker 1: provision in with the money responded to the tweets, to
Speaker 1: one of the tweets, So again the grants that you're
Speaker 1: talking about, any group, any community group can apply, Okay.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you money is not the money is
Speaker 1: not only for Asian groups to apply. There's no job.
Speaker 1: They're not doing a good job. That's that's those jobs.
Speaker 1: And I promise you that black folks who are dealing
Speaker 1: with mass shootings on the streets of Africa don't know
Speaker 1: that they can go apply right now to get that.
Speaker 1: Which is why I need those black people to watch
Speaker 1: Rollombart on filter in the Black Start networks because the
Speaker 1: reality because the reality is you're not going to get
Speaker 1: information from these other sources. They're only gonna talk about that.
Speaker 1: And that's precisely why all of that stuff that I
Speaker 1: hurt from people. That's why I said, y'all, here's the bill,
Speaker 1: here's the language. Somebody to hear me in the check.
Speaker 1: What about the money, I'm like, they put in thirty million,
Speaker 1: Like what does this say? Right here? These are the
Speaker 1: groups the money is for. And so there are federal
Speaker 1: that that that are Look if you when you talk
Speaker 1: about okay LGBT, guess what if there are resources there
Speaker 1: for LGBT, black LGBT group should be applying. We shouldn't
Speaker 1: mean well that's the white folks. Know you black and
Speaker 1: gay or lesbian boom apply for the funds. What we
Speaker 1: have to understand is, and that's this is all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I need our people not to be so locked in
Speaker 1: loaded on the emotional part. I need us locked on
Speaker 1: the factual part and moving it forward, and so we
Speaker 1: know the impact the George for Justice Act. I told
Speaker 1: the families directly on the anniversary of his of his death.
Speaker 1: I said, y'all should call. Y'all should make a public
Speaker 1: call for President Joe Biden to have a meeting at
Speaker 1: the White House with y'all and law enforcement and until
Speaker 1: Scott Graham and McConnell to be at the meeting as well.
Speaker 1: I said, because and I told being prompt, I said,
Speaker 1: to get this thing back on track. I said, now
Speaker 1: here's the deal, y'all call for it. The Biden doesn't
Speaker 1: do it, that's on him. We can kick his ass,
Speaker 1: I said. But if he does it and Republicans don't
Speaker 1: show up, we know that's who we can target. But
Speaker 1: what I'm not gonna do, what I'm not gonna do,
Speaker 1: and this is where my studying of our history comes in.
Speaker 1: What I am not gonna do is get stopped at
Speaker 1: the emotional door and not focus on getting the results.
Speaker 1: And I think unfortunately too many of our people are
Speaker 1: caught up in well we didn't you don't say this,
Speaker 1: what does it say? What does it do? And I
Speaker 1: want us also focused on that because we have to
Speaker 1: get stuff done, but there's certainly much more need for
Speaker 1: conversation about this, and I'm and I love it because
Speaker 1: we all we gotta be brought up to speed because
Speaker 1: we're not going to be able to make any change
Speaker 1: if we just, you know, if we don't know the
Speaker 1: information right. And that's and that's why I black on
Speaker 1: Media Store important because look, because because again we're going
Speaker 1: to read the bills, we're gonna go get the information.
Speaker 1: We're gonna say, look, we're going after the sources. And
Speaker 1: that's the problem. And I'll be honest with you, a
Speaker 1: lot of our folks spend more time retweeting something MSNBC
Speaker 1: or CNN said than what we talked about, and people
Speaker 1: like we didn't know. That's why we did five days
Speaker 1: a week, every day every day, because well, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't want us depend upon somebody else who's not
Speaker 1: going to give us the information. Rolland Martin Unfiltered, thank
Speaker 1: you for being with us today. You back for show,
Speaker 1: and y'all download the download the black Star Network out
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Speaker 1: Thank you, appreciate all right, rolland has so much information
Speaker 1: in him. It's like, I mean, but but it's a lot, right,
Speaker 1: And there's so many different perspectives. We have a lot
Speaker 1: of other friends who have different perspectives and it and
Speaker 1: it all educated, right, brilliant people are brilliant. And we
Speaker 1: are talking about Joe Blow from over the road. We
Speaker 1: talked about people who also study and nate and I'm
Speaker 1: sure they have a perspective to respond to what he
Speaker 1: just said as well. Um, but it definitely helps me,
Speaker 1: Like I'm because I couldn't understand exactly what was happening.
Speaker 1: So now that he explains what his position is, I
Speaker 1: get why he continued to push his point. But I
Speaker 1: still understand the point that they were making in terms
Speaker 1: of the idea that the administration went out and marketed
Speaker 1: these bills. The reality is that black is not a
Speaker 1: good marketing. They don't want to use the word. They
Speaker 1: don't want to use, just like what you were talking
Speaker 1: about the Mareverary case, right, and you talked about how
Speaker 1: you know, um Bandon and others had wanted them to
Speaker 1: specifically point how this was racism that you know that
Speaker 1: the the attorney was using and a white woman who
Speaker 1: did an excellent job. She chose not to focus on that,
Speaker 1: right she wanted she because in the eyes of a
Speaker 1: lot of people in America, white people in America, it's
Speaker 1: not something that they want to identify with, right. They
Speaker 1: don't want to They don't want to focus on the
Speaker 1: fact that America's racist. They don't want to focus on
Speaker 1: the fact that these things are specifically happening to white people. Right,
Speaker 1: So they want to put us all into this one
Speaker 1: category and say, Okay, blacks will be able to benefit more,
Speaker 1: and it will actually happen if we don't focus it
Speaker 1: primarily on blacks. And that's just the strategy that America uses,
Speaker 1: and a lot of us aren't comfortable with that. We
Speaker 1: just gotta call it out direct but we have to
Speaker 1: cool it out directly until we make them uncomfortable enough
Speaker 1: to where they do things that they need to do
Speaker 1: for us directly. Listen, we got so much going on
Speaker 1: for June Team. We did get a lot of information
Speaker 1: from rolling and we need to actually cut the show
Speaker 1: so we could go jump on a June Team on
Speaker 1: celebration and commemoration event with our brother Reverend Stephen A. Green.
Speaker 1: So there is Unfortunately, we move and moving, moving, and
Speaker 1: and you know, I think that's what that's what it's
Speaker 1: all about. It's cool that we do a podcast, but
Speaker 1: it's even more important that we're on the ground because
Speaker 1: that at this evening we've got to be somewhere for
Speaker 1: Brittney Grinder. I mean, by the time folks get to
Speaker 1: see episodes that we need to be doing things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: by the time people see this episode in in just
Speaker 1: two days, we would have done more work than many
Speaker 1: folks do all year long in terms of their their activism.
Speaker 1: So with that said, I'm not gonna always be right
Speaker 1: to make a d Mallory is not gonna always be wrong,
Speaker 1: but we will both always and I mean always be authentic.
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