WEBVTT - Why We Celebrate Juneteenth with Roland Martin 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:07.160 What's good family, it's your girl to make a d 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:10.719 Mallory and it's your boy, my son, and we are 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:16.880 your hosts of street politicians the place with what's going on, 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:23.080 my son, I am blessed in Holly favorite man. Father's 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:28.320 Day June teev long weekend for me, man, long weekend, 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:32.520 long weekend. Father's Day was a good day in New York. 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:35.800 Um the whole weekend, A lot of people did a 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:39.000 lot of black stuff getting together, Black people getting together 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:42.440 doing black stuff. And I like that. I like Father's 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:46.680 Day falling on June team. It was something special about it. 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:50.280 It was it was you know, it was good because 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:53.360 there was a lot of men being celebrated. It was 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:57.840 freedom being celebrated. We did so many different things. I 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:04.319 did a rally with my brother A. T. Mitchell on Saturday, 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:07.600 and then we did our launch on Sunday, and then 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:10.199 UM went around to what's your picnics? When my kids 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:14.319 drove them crazy. But no, we also fed three hundred 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:20.880 and fifty people. Three people shout out to them, what's 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:22.680 the name of the buzz an? I have to I 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.640 forget the name because I just know unique as the 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:33.080 young lady who has the food truckad Now, we gotta, 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:35.319 we gotta, we gotta shout that up. Make sure we 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:39.280 give out her proper for feet and three hundred and 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:43.640 fifty people yesterday in the Bronx. That was it was 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:46.400 really cool, like you know, to watch the folks show up. Well, 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:50.240 what was interesting is how I don't know if anyone 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:53.600 else experiences this, and I guess it's happened. It happened 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:57.440 to me. When someone says it's free, people were looking 0:01:57.480 --> 0:01:59.800 at us. They were like, what you mean it's free? 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:03.200 They didn't believe nobody. It's called food Fetish. The truck 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:05.800 is called food Fetish. Set out to my home girl 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:10.480 unique Um she's had. That's one of her her entrepreneur 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:16.720 businesses that she started good Food and we fed everybody 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:20.280 that came by one three in the Grand concourse. We fed, 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:22.280 you know, So it was it was a good day. 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:25.280 But leading up to this day to me because it 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:29.000 was crazy to me because you know, I had all 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:30.640 these things to do and I needed to be in 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:36.240 New York and my flight was canceled. I was supposed 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:39.640 to be back here on Thursday night and my flight 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:42.080 got canceled just randomly, like I'm on my way to 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:45.040 the airport and randomly they just sent me a notification. 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:48.320 First it was your flight is delayed the hour. The 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:52.160 next thing I know, your flight is canceled. M I'm like, 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:58.000 what the hell get canceled? No, they don't get caned, 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:00.480 like this is not something that happens to me, Like 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:02.560 you know what saying, my flight doesn't really get canceled. 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:05.640 And and then we heard we heard that there were 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:09.320 so many flights canceled. Over six thousand flights were canceled. 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:15.720 Within those things it happened this it was just on 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:19.880 the day that you were caught up. The next day, 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:23.560 my flight was canceled something to where that where was 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.120 that going to d C And that was part of 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:29.400 another five thousand flights. So it's been each and every 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:34.120 day they've been canceling thousands of flights. It's crazy. It's crazy, 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:40.080 and they're charging massive money for the tickets they're canceling 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:42.680 your flight. Then when you're trying to do something else, 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:45.160 they're trying to charge you two or three thousand dollars 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:48.360 to get a flight places that normally course three or 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:51.240 four hundred dollars, Like I don't even understand, like price 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:54.960 Gallagen at its best right now. Like, I don't know 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:57.920 what these airports are trying to do. These airlines are 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.200 trying to get some money back. Some people say it's 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:02.240 jet fuel. They don't want to spend the money on 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:04.240 jet fuel, so they're trying to make sure all of 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:06.920 the flights are packed. Then these people saying that there's 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:10.200 no workers. But whatever it is, it's coming out of 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:13.240 our pockets. It's mad. It's inconveniencing us. I had to 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:17.520 get back kid on Friday. I had to rush miss 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:19.640 my kids things that I was supposed to do with 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:21.839 my children, so to take my son to the doctors 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:24.039 or to pick them up. Then I had to rush 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:26.320 and try to get ready for the rally, had to 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:28.680 get t shirts. It was so many, it was I 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.920 was so backed up. Man. So I don't know who 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:35.640 else experienced these flights, but I've seen something with Rick 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:39.440 Ross was talking about it said something that if you know, 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:42.000 if you book him for a flight, you gotta book 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:45.640 him down. You gotta n him a jet because they're 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:49.400 canceling flights. He's like his his prices fifty thollars the 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:52.560 book because he needs a private jet because the flights 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:55.240 are not are just getting canceled and he doesn't even 0:04:55.240 --> 0:05:00.400 want to deal with that no more so I'm remember 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:03.400 being I don't know where I was anyway. They have 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:07.880 been changing flight times, canceling flights, and I know there 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:10.200 are a lot of people that have different reasons why 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:14.479 they think it's happening. But um, when you really get 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:16.760 down to the bottom to like though, as they say, 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:19.720 the nitty gritty of it all, uh, one thing we 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:24.040 know for sure is that pilots have been complaining about 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:27.359 being overworked. So that is that's definitely an issue that 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:30.680 pilots have been saying they're not gonna work like you know, 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:35.039 once they finished flying into a particular place, there is 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:39.320 an expectation or maybe the airlines. I don't even know 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:41.640 if they because we we can't really speak on behalf 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.400 of folks. We don't. We were not in those conversations, 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:48.880 but just from chatter and reading a few stories online, 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:52.479 what I have found is that pilots are saying that 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:55.480 once they get to a particular place, rather than them 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:59.160 flying back or you know, continuing to our next location, 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:02.719 they shut down and going in because they're tired. And 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:10.240 so so I guess the pandemic has caused just pilotic city. Quit. 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:12.720 They don't want to work no more. But must see. 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:14.520 See this is the thing, and this is where you 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:17.280 and I, well, I think you finally came to an 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:24.719 understanding around the pandemic. People die, lots and lots of people. 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:28.440 Hundreds of thousands of people were probably like a million 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:32.400 people at this point who died as a result of 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:36.800 either having COVID and then getting complications or caught up 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:40.120 in the health care system and you know, things happened 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:43.160 to them. They didn't get the proper care. That is, 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:46.560 regardless of whether you want to say, well, it wasn't 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:50.160 actual COVID in their blood. But the problem is that 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:55.320 COVID came and when COVID became an issue as a 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:58.840 result of it, it impacted a lot of people and 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:03.120 people die. You lost airline stewar is, you lost pilots, 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:06.200 You lost just people in general. And with with so 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:10.800 many pilots being older, um, you know, being uh, you know, 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:14.360 I mean there's not many black ones, but anyway, there's 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:16.360 so many that are old or what have you. People 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:19.240 probably retired like who the hell wants to be on 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:22.960 a plane closed in with other individuals or having to 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:26.360 go through airports and traveling around with folks when you 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:29.680 could potentially get a sickness that you don't want and 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:32.960 you can retire. You actually can retire at this point, 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:36.120 so you had a lot of that element. Then you 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:40.000 have people who working in restaurants and other things that 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:44.080 just because of you know, them learning maybe new skills, 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:47.320 new things, ways to stay home and work, they're not 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:50.080 trying to go back out there. So the whole system 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:53.480 is thrown off. Everything is all over the place, and 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:55.320 the airlines is caught up as a part of that. 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:59.080 But the the f a A and whoever else is 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:06.440 responsible for airlines and and and UM travel, they need 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:08.680 to get on top of this because I'm telling you 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:13.560 that plane tickets are super expensive. You don't book to travel. 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:16.920 That's what Linda and I do. Well. Janie actually physically 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:20.280 books to travel, but the approval for all the rates 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:23.360 and everything it has to come through either Linda or me. 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:26.600 And we're seeing numbers that are making us say we're 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:31.040 not traveling places. It's crazy. Like for instance, UM, in 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:32.760 a few days, we were supposed to be in l 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:35.360 A to be honored by our girl, Miss Ditty, and 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:38.360 even she when she heard that the price for ticket 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:40.839 could be up to three thousand dollars and that wasn't 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:44.760 even in um uh in first class. She's like, you 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:49.440 can't come. You just can't be there. It's too expensive. Yeah, 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:53.280 it's it's it's outrageous, man. And I don't understand. It's 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:55.680 not like they're giving you no extra services, like y'all 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:58.640 ain't added nothing to it's actually like you're taking away. 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:01.760 We was on the plane the day where you know, 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:06.200 you know, a lady quote unquote was in the back 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:10.959 team that they had to give her I V. I 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:16.080 had to get and get V. But they cut off 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:18.800 the services. We couldn't even get snacks or anything because 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:22.440 they had no water anything on the three hour flight. 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:26.080 And I'm like, but you're charging us this ridiculous amount 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:28.880 of money. The services have been cut most of the time. 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:31.800 Sometimes they ain't got WiFi. It's like, come on, like 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:33.760 you gotta get it to you. But you know what 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:37.960 the airlines is acting and ghet up. We need They 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:40.240 gotta get it together, man. But it was that was 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:43.160 one of the worst experiences because even after that, the 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:45.520 postpone my flight to the next day and then it 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:47.320 was one time, then it was three hours. I didn't 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:50.840 end up getting back until supposed to be at home 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:55.680 Thursday at about nine ten o'clock at night, and I 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:59.680 didn't get home to Saturday morning at two am. Crazy. 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:05.080 So they don't care nothing about your kids, your life. Yeah, nothing, mamie. 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:07.880 And that's the first time that I was in Miami 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.520 and I did not want to be in Miami. Miami 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:12.319 is one of my places that I love to be 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:16.280 at and it's always like a good getaways, you know, 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:21.079 beautiful weather, tranquility and everything. But I did not need 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:22.520 to beat it, and I didn't want to beat it, 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:27.560 and it pissed me off. Well. Two other news. The 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:31.600 airlines is news story number one today. They gotta do something. 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:34.440 We need to call on the federal government to freaking 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.120 check the airlines and see what the hell is going on. 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:42.040 But the next story is of Henrietta Lacks. That we 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:46.360 heard about Henrietta Lacks from attorney Ben crump Um and 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:50.560 in fact in his new film Civil, which was released 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:54.920 this past weekend on June. Team Uh. Civil that is 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.600 on Netflix, and people want to get tired of us 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:00.200 because we're gonna be talking about it's one of the 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:04.120 best documentaries that I've ever seen like it's a It's 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:09.880 an awesome depiction and just overall understanding of what it 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:12.560 is that being Rum does because there's so many people 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:16.400 who have the wrong idea of what by what he does, 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:19.199 who he is, even what kind of attorney he is, 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:21.120 Like you know what I'm saying. I've had so many 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:23.840 people say, you know, you always get, but he always losing, 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:25.959 And I'll be like, well, I don't even know I 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:29.440 ever lost anything, because I don't even know. I don't 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:32.400 think that you understand the difference between the civil attorney 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:34.800 and the d A. Like the d A is the 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:39.720 person who tries these cases that you know, police brutality 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.240 and wrong for all of these the DA is responsible 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:45.320 for that, and being crumb as a civil lawyer is 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:49.880 responsible for being able to sue and gain monetary, you know, 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:54.559 value and relief based on the trauma that comes from 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.480 the situation. So that's his only job and people don't 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:59.840 know that. So just watching this and then you get 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:02.160 a a real idea of what it is that he 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:05.240 does and see how serious it is and how engaged 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:08.120 he is and how much for people he is man 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:12.400 and me knowing that altogether this gives me a reference point. Now, 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:14.880 like people Ben Crump is all right, we'll go watch 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:17.960 go watch civil Well, you know he also and and 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:21.160 and it is his his main job is to get 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:26.800 um punitive damages for families. But that's not the only 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:30.160 thing that he does. He advocates for these families. He 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:35.319 stands them right. He helps to navigate these families through 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:39.480 their you know, crises in terms of the tragedy that 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:45.560 they're experiencing. He also helps to advise the district attorneys 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.040 and you know, those people who are involved in fighting 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:50.120 the case that they don't have to listen to him. 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:58.560 Because there was something happening during the uh McK michael's 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:05.640 trial for in Ahmad arevery there was this moment when um, 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:10.040 when when the when the dish, when the defense attorney 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:15.920 started talking about Ahmad Aarby's feet, his toenails, and you know, 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:20.400 bringing up other things that was clearly racial slurs. And 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:23.560 I remember all of us being there and when we 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.800 would have our huddles because of course the family um 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:30.800 and other individuals and lawyers of the civil attorneys for 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:34.439 the families would be inside the courtroom and then we 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:37.560 were in the spill over area and as soon as 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:40.160 it breaks, you know, court would break for any reason. 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:44.080 They come out and all of us get to huddle 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:46.600 and talk through what to do. And you know what 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:49.800 did we hear and and they explained to us. You know, 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:53.800 Attorney Lee Merritt was there because obviously he represented Wanda Cooper, 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:57.640 which was Ahmad Araby's mother, and then you had been 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:02.400 Crumped there representing uh Uhmur's father. And so when they 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.280 would come out and they would advise us, and they 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:07.040 will be other legal members to help us understand what's 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:10.480 happening and also to hear our feedback. And our feedback 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:14.520 was that the district attorney needed to go back on race, 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:17.400 needed to hit them hard on the issue of race. 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:19.640 We were like, why won't she bring up what she 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:23.240 sees happening here? And so we know that that Attorney 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:26.600 Crump and and and Attorney Merit they did go back 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:29.040 and say something about it, but she still didn't take 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:32.360 their advice. So to your point, the district attorney does 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:35.160 not have to listen to anything from the civil attorney, 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:36.880 and in fact, I doesn't even have to really speak 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:38.840 to them other than to get some of the evidence 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:43.800 that they're looking for. But sometimes they do, so people 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.200 do need to understand. And I think the film, as 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:50.040 you said, it is very, very educational. It's educational at 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:53.480 the best. But Henrietta Lacks is another case because another 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:55.960 part of the film that we they're gonna get tired 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:57.600 of us so about being Crump, but I don't care 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:04.800 Civil No, no, no, Well with Henrietta lax Um. The 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:08.280 thing is another part of Civil where they talk about 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:13.120 how people believe that the only cases Ben Crump fights 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:15.400 are things that's in the media, like, Oh, he's just 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:18.360 looking for attention, He's just going for the highest number. 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:22.360 Guess what. Henrietta Lacks was a little old lady that 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:25.640 her daughter in law happened to be at an event 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:28.600 and while she's sitting in the midst of this luncheon, 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:34.360 she hears a doctor talking about, uh, some cells that 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:38.160 they got from an elderly woman's body, and and she's 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.840 and he's explaining the story. And I don't know, of course, 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:42.880 because I've never talked to his daughter, nor have I 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:48.000 really really researched enough about what happened that triggered her 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:51.520 to ask more questions. But it's clear that the research 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:54.320 went on from there and come to find out it 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.920 was her mother in law's body that was extract These cells, 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:02.400 which they call immortal cells, were extracted from So now 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:06.040 think about that. Who the heck knows a lady named 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:10.560 Henrietta Lacks who was born in Virginia moved to Baltimore 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:13.200 like nob but yet and still they got in touch 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:16.600 for being crump and he is suing Johns Hopkins University 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:20.360 because a doctor from Johns Hopkins from the hospital there 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:24.600 is responsible for um, you know, taking this woman's cells. 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:28.480 So this that is crazy. But you know what my sign. 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.160 Organ harvesting is the thing though, that's the thing, that 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:33.240 is the thing. It's a real thing. And a lot 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:36.440 of people say that's what a lot of these kidnappings 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:40.280 and you know, missing people are that people are kidnapping 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:42.880 and taking people for orients. And then they also say 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:46.160 their bodies when you bury your bodies, that you gotta 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:50.520 come back and check because the August organ harvesting, they're 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:53.200 taking the organs out of the body. I know, somebody 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:56.560 said that they had to re dig up a body 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:59.600 because they needed to do some DNA research. In all 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:03.200 have been removed everything, there was nothing but the shell 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:06.320 of the body. So this is the thing, and it's crazy. 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:09.639 And they said that these organs are very very expensive. 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:12.359 It works a lot of money. The same thing happened 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:16.600 to what's his name, Kendrick Johnson that was killed in 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:23.280 Lalvasta or Valdasta, Baldasta, Georgia, where they found his body 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:27.199 wrapped up in a map behind the bleachers UM and 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:30.320 come to find out, the two people who are suspected 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:34.080 to have been involved their their students. Also this was 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:37.200 this was a high school student and these high school's 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:41.920 athletes um and these other kids are also high school students, 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:45.680 and where they found the body and the whole story 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:50.280 it points directly to these two young men who father 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:55.560 or grandfather is worked at one time for the FBI. 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:59.399 So but when they did find his body and you 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:02.240 know his parents and had their own autopsy, his organs 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:05.840 have been removed. Even his fingers nails have been clipped, 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:08.400 like the butts of his fingers were gone because they, 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:10.359 you know, we're trying to get rid of evidence. So, 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:15.040 as you said, this is a real thing. It's unbelievable, man. 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:19.159 So this Henrietta lacked situation. When I when I heard it, 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:22.119 it was just weird. It was like, what's the what 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:26.920 is the chances that someone's daughter in law? It's somewhere 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:30.560 and they're just hearing somebody speaking and she realizes that 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:35.159 it would be her, you know, somebody, her husband's family, Like, 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:38.800 what is the what is the chances of that? Mm hmm, Well, 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:46.720 I think that the chances are nothing, but God that 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:51.439 that that these people have to be exposed for what 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:54.360 they've what they've done to us, and what they continue 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:58.320 to do. And so now there has to be a 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:02.720 reckoning and they God, she was there, she did hear it. 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:05.720 I think this happened seventy years ago. You know, so 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:07.920 this has been a thing for me. It's like why 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:10.240 why why does it taking too long for you to 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:14.159 acknowledge that this is just completely wrong? And the family? 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:18.440 Why do you ask why? I asked why this said, 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:20.800 like why do we go through like this? Like why 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:24.879 why is their processes they're taking this long? That we 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:30.680 have America? It's America, That's why it's America. But anyway, 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:34.440 with that being said, I don't know, I don't even know. 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:37.960 I don't even know how to talk about all the things. 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:41.320 There's so many things. Okay, I don't know, but I'm 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:44.679 glad to know that finally there's some movement on the 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:48.760 Henrietta Lacked situation and hopefully it will expose, as you said, 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:53.480 this issue of Oregon harvesting, which of course they're doing 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:55.800 it to black people the most. That's why we were 0:19:55.840 --> 0:20:00.440 so heavily involved in fighting for um what's the name 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:04.480 of the little the the oh god it baby Rock, 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:08.920 baby i'm in Raw and his sister, because remember they 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:12.760 were taken from their family, from the mother and father, 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:15.920 and the internet went crazy. Tatiana, I leave the actress 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:17.720 hit us up like, hey, I need you guys to 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:21.679 help me bring some light to this situation. And once 0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:25.760 once you get more involved with the activists, the CPS activists, 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:29.520 which is the Child Protective Servitive Services activists, there are 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:32.959 kids being taken from their parents every single day, and 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:35.639 I mean in situations like we know that what happened 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:38.280 I'm in Rob was crazy. It was crazy. Instead of 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:41.399 the system giving them help for the right nutritional diet 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:46.160 to support them take you know, being vegan and still breastfeeding, 0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:48.240 and he may not have been getting all the vitamins 0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:51.520 he needed because you know, breast milk. Uh. If you 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:53.880 if you're in your body if you don't have certain things. 0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:56.439 Of course, it's not translating to the baby properly. That 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:58.240 doesn't mean you take them off the breast. It means 0:20:58.240 --> 0:21:01.560 that the doctor has to give you a regiment that's 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:04.320 necessary for you to be as healthy as possible to 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:06.320 make the baby healthy. But they don't work with you 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:09.520 as a vegan because they want you to buy formally. 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:12.680 And so it's all. It's all, you know, these people 0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:18.160 have had so long my son to be intentional, very 0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:22.760 very intentional about what they are doing. They are so 0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:28.680 damn intentional about it, I'll tell you. But anyway, you know, 0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:32.119 it's funny because as I'm sitting here talking to you 0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:35.640 in real time, we wanna put the child's name on 0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:38.880 the internet because i mean, on on our show out 0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:42.159 of respect for the parents. But we are very close 0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:47.880 to a woman whose child has been being attacked in school, 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:52.080 bullied and beat up for the last two years, and 0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:57.000 the school in the last incident where multiple children jumped him, 0:21:58.000 --> 0:22:01.359 this school did not even want I mean, at that 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:04.040 point the mom was like, I'm gonna have people arrested 0:22:04.160 --> 0:22:05.960 because she didn't know what she doesn't know what else 0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:08.160 to do. The school is not really doing anything about it. 0:22:08.600 --> 0:22:11.040 And these kids have been beating up on this particular 0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:14.800 child and torturing him. And the crazy thing is she 0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:19.480 moved to a better neighborhood, hoping to move him away 0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:22.560 from the things that was happening where we all live, 0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:29.159 and it hasn't helped. And so long story short, she's 0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:32.399 and the school refused to turn over the children. They 0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:35.120 don't even want to. They won't even bring the parents 0:22:35.160 --> 0:22:38.679 together for a meeting. They will not even bring the 0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:42.600 parents together for a meeting because they have found that 0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:46.200 they could be more fights between parents and they don't 0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:48.720 they don't have to give the names because the protection 0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:51.600 of the system, and you know, all of this other ship. 0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:54.400 And meanwhile, as I'm sitting here and talking to you, 0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:58.600 he had another fight today. He's been fighting his way 0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:02.960 through school for two years and it happened again today. 0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:06.520 It's just and and I feel like, you know, there's 0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:09.960 no excuse for picking up a gun, there's no excuse 0:23:10.000 --> 0:23:14.159 for knives, knives and violence and all of that. But 0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:18.119 I also understand that our system is so messed up 0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:21.639 that if if he was a kid that reacted in 0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:24.720 that way, yeah, sure he would be wrong. And would 0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:27.639 have to suffer the consequences, but we would be able 0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:30.160 to understand that for two years, the system has completely 0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:33.880 failed him then done nothing to protect him. So at 0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:36.840 this point he's got to figure out probably how to 0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:40.520 protect himself and thank himself. Now. Thank god, he has 0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:42.720 the kind of family that's there to support him, and 0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:45.040 he's a good kid, so he would never find himself 0:23:45.040 --> 0:23:48.320 in that situation. But it's not just picking up a gun. 0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:52.439 It's also suicide. It's also you know, depression. All of 0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:55.639 that can happen to somebody and it's the system's fault 0:23:55.680 --> 0:24:00.280 because the system is doing nothing to help him. Yeah, 0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:03.280 it's it's actually disheartened and it's sad. He's a good 0:24:03.400 --> 0:24:07.600 kid and just just hearing the way that they're going 0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:09.919 about it. Like usually, you know, when we were in 0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:13.520 school and there were situations, parents were called all parents, 0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:16.720 there was a meeting. We sat down. Your parents looked 0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:18.960 at my parents, we looked at each other, and we 0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:21.960 and we tried to work together to try to stop 0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:24.479 a situation. Like and it said that they think that 0:24:24.680 --> 0:24:27.520 parents are supposed to fight over things that kids are doing. 0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:30.320 Like at some point, somebody's wrong, right and the parents 0:24:30.359 --> 0:24:32.560 should be able to acknowledgate my child. My child is 0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:35.080 the problem here that I'm going to discipline my child, 0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:37.360 I'm going to communicate with you. You let me know 0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:40.560 anytime there's an issue. And that used that used to 0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:43.119 always cut it off for us. You know, when we 0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:46.560 started handling ourselves and there was no parents involved, that 0:24:46.760 --> 0:24:49.960 kept it going. But when parents actually got involved and 0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:52.320 they were in community and they were building with each other, 0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:55.680 I very seldom seen things get out of hand. And 0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:59.800 if you just coming after somebody's child got beat up 0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:03.080 and he comes, they come angry, and there's no liaison 0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:05.560 in between, there's no media that nobody's sitting down and 0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:08.119 trying to talk out and and hash out the situation, 0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:11.480 then that turns into an issue. But to just bring 0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:14.520 two adults together and and and trying to figure out 0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:17.960 the best solution and have y'all working together to try 0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:21.280 to you know, calm a situation that makes sense to me. 0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:25.120 So I don't understand the school's philosophy. I think it's stupid. 0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:29.240 I think it's stupid. I think it's you know, it's counterproductive, 0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:32.120 and it's actually leading to more because but like you said, 0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:36.959 two years your same situation has been a current and 0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:40.919 and whatever the strategy that they're utilizing hasn't worked. You know, 0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:44.240 I'm just, you know, I'm just I don't know. Man, 0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:47.320 so much going on. Man, I was, I was at 0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:51.919 I was at Kingdom yesterday, dope event basketball. You know, 0:25:51.960 --> 0:25:54.600 I'm always a basketball fan in New York. Kingdom was 0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:58.720 super dope, no problems seeing Hallom model. It was like 0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:02.119 the old Hallom back in the days, like Grant's tune 0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:04.640 in Hollow Week just gave you that feel. And then 0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:08.280 I go home and then they say way away from 0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:10.040 each other, which has nothing to do with it. Somewhere 0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:13.040 else and people get shot and killed. Some one person 0:26:13.080 --> 0:26:16.119 that's killed, they said, a young boy who ironically was 0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:19.600 a basketball star is shot and murdered. And now none 0:26:19.640 --> 0:26:22.639 other people are injured. It's just so many things going 0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:26.280 on at one time. You know, you just you want, 0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:28.919 like you want to be able to enjoy the good things, 0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:31.359 and then there's some negative that comes. Man. We just 0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:33.720 we need to or we need to reckon it. We 0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:38.000 need a a wash like we need to. We need 0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:41.119 we need to very put the whole city and some 0:26:41.160 --> 0:26:43.960 holy water man and just some sage. We need to 0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:46.680 walk around the streets with sage. Well, I mean, that's 0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:49.760 not really a bad idea. But I will say is 0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:56.040 that I am predicting that no eat that all the 0:26:56.119 --> 0:26:59.600 efforts that we are taking, which we now are starting 0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:05.560 out mid night marches, um, you know, we're fighting for resources, 0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:08.480 we're doing all the things. I mean. I was having 0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:11.520 a conversation with the New New York tsar as you 0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:15.600 mentioned a t mitchell Um for violence. I was talking 0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:17.399 to him this morning and he was like, you know, 0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:23.440 nine people shot in any place from a federal government perspective, 0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:29.199 is a mass shooting that requires mental health services. The 0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:32.119 truck should be set up, the media should be there, 0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:37.160 there should be supplies, everything that's needed should be poured 0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:39.840 into the community. And they don't do that for us 0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:42.000 because they don't see our lives the same, which is 0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:45.520 why they moved on so quickly from Buffalo. Move right on, 0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:48.399 because it's it's just you know, black folks. And the 0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:50.520 only thing that makes it a little bit more spicy 0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:53.920 is that it is a it was a white supremacist 0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:56.919 who committed that crime. So therefore it helps some of 0:27:56.960 --> 0:28:01.359 the political agenda that the media plays into whichever side 0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:04.600 they may be on. But in our situation, black and 0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:07.960 brown people out there killing each other, all we have is, 0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:11.800 you know, pretty much the Act did the activists and 0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:14.640 you know, the community, and that's really it. And I'm 0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:17.800 predicting that no matter how much work we do, this 0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:20.440 particular summer is gonna probably be one of the worst 0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:23.600 summers that we've experienced in a long time in terms 0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:26.639 of violent crime. I think that we have the ability 0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:29.239 to turn it around by the time that, you know, 0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:31.960 the new year comes around and we get towards the 0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:36.199 next summer. But right now, it's it's gonna take some 0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:39.479 real brick and martel work. People gonna have to roll 0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:43.280 their sleeves up and be outside, literally out in the street. 0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:46.720 You're not gonna solve this from behind the computer, doing 0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:50.040 a show, talking on the radio, put even right in 0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:52.720 the check It's that's gonna be a little part of 0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:55.120 it and and important, but it ain't gonna be the 0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:58.880 whole thing. Yeah, it's gonna I said that yesterday at 0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:02.360 the rally. Is gonna take It's gonna take a combined 0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:05.000 efforts because it's because it's not a sprint, it's gonna 0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:08.880 be a marathon. It's gonna take every it's gonna be 0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:11.280 Lottie Doddy and everybody's gonna have to be there. We're 0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:15.560 gonna need activist community people. We're gonna need former game people. 0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:17.720 We're gonna need current game people. We're gonna need youth, 0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:20.720 we're gonna need old We're gonna need every dimension of 0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:24.240 our community to come together to put this a denting 0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:26.440 with it because there's so much trauma and there's so 0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:29.719 much normalization of violence at this point right violence has 0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:33.920 become so normal. Like I'll be watching and I see kids, 0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:36.240 kids were shooting at the priests in front the priest 0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:38.520 and just walking by and they just decided they're gonna 0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:40.760 have a shootout in front of the preset, and it's like, 0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:44.000 I want to understand the ration now or just to 0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:45.800 mind state when I used to work by a priest, 0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:48.520 I didn't want to do anything leave Like as soon 0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:51.239 as I've seen the police call, it kind of deterred me. 0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:55.320 These kids, you know, and in this generation, are not 0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:59.719 deterred by anything. So that's why I know that law 0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:01.720 and force usman can't stop to shoot them because they're 0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:04.680 not even deterred by the law enforcement. It's gonna take 0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:08.160 a new influence. It's gonna be the the culture has 0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:12.040 to shift to say that shooting and violencing these things 0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:14.560 are not okay, They're not cool. It has to be 0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:17.840 frowned upon. The culture has to say it together in 0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:20.320 order for it to change, you know, because these kids 0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:23.760 don't care about what law enforcement does or things. You know, 0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:27.440 some of them, actually, I feel like when like I 0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:29.040 remember we were young, I said all the time when 0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:31.280 you went to jail was like a badger honor. So 0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:33.920 some of them feel like it adds to their quote 0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:37.320 unquote reputation when they do sometime in prison. But when 0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:39.280 they what they don't realize is that when you're not 0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:41.960 coming home and you're doing twenty and twenty five and 0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:45.160 thirty and forty years in prison, its just it's completely 0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:47.480 you're losing your life. And they find that out within 0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:49.760 the first couple of years in prison. So my our 0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:51.520 job is to make sure that they don't have to 0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:53.880 find that out. That no one has to lose their life. 0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:57.120 No one has to lose you know. So we're gonna 0:30:57.320 --> 0:30:59.800 but it's gonna take a real consulted effort in a 0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:04.520 combination of all of our skill sets, understandings, emotions, feelings 0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:11.720 and passions to really put it there in this Today 0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:15.320 we've got a guest of all guests and uh coming 0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:18.640 and joining Street Politicians. I've no idea why this is 0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:22.840 the first time that Roland Martin is on Street Politicians, 0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:26.240 But you know, yeah, I agree, I don't know. I 0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:30.080 have no I think it's my songs fault man. Definitely. 0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:32.240 I definitely said Rolling should have been here about at 0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:36.840 least three shows already. I think sometimes sometimes I think 0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:40.000 I purposely have not invited Rolling because I'm like, he's 0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:42.720 gonna be too hard, and I if we can't even 0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:45.840 I can't handle Rolling on this topic. But now I'm 0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:53.880 too hard. I'm happy to have you on to my 0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:57.880 Haitie Freedom shared on the day, so so people will 0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:01.160 know who you are working. We're shooting some problems, we're 0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:04.000 shooting some promos, and so I'm gonna where the June 0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:06.760 teenth shirt on the show. But I figured I work 0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:09.000 in the Haiti shirt. Now wear June teenth on the 0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:11.680 head man. You know you, we we know that's the 0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:14.000 reason why we asked you to come and be on today. 0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:18.560 It was perfect because you are from Texas and raised 0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:22.080 and when folks are talking about June tea. I'm not 0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:25.600 sure people really understand all the history. You said something 0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:28.800 the other day that really triggered me, which is that 0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:35.120 in nineteen eighty, Texas acknowledged June Team. So already in 0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:39.480 nineteen eighty Texas was there, you know, that became the 0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:44.480 first state to make Juneteenth a state holiday. I gotta 0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:46.360 give up to my alpha pa Alpha fa turned the 0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:49.520 brother of the late state of Riginia, Alt Edwards. He's 0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:52.320 known as the father of June teenth. He pushed this 0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:54.560 issue for years. He was the one that got it 0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:57.400 over the hump. So June teeth had been celebrated for 0:32:57.440 --> 0:33:00.960 all of those years since eighteen sixty in Texas, but 0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:04.440 he officially became a say holiday in nineteen eighty. And 0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:07.960 so those of us, uh from Houston, from Texas, you know, 0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:11.400 we take June teeh real personal and we were piste off. 0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:13.680 We were piste off and a lot of people we're 0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:17.160 talking trash by saying who asked for this? We don't 0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:20.720 need this, because they had no understanding of what June 0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:24.760 teenth meant to us. June Team was always about uh 0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:29.040 self reliance, about empowerment. It was always it wasn't just 0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:33.040 concerts and barbecues. He was also always voter registration. It 0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:36.760 was always enlightenment. Uh. And I think what we are 0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:41.560 not experiencing. You're now seeing why people have no clue 0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:44.600 about history. Even the great size is bi ll Not 0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:47.080 has got his butt kicked on social media in the 0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:50.520 last twenty four hours because he claimed that, uh, June 0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:53.960 team freed the slaves. But no, it didn't. People also 0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:56.480 used to say, oh, y'all black goes in Texas, y'all 0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:59.560 were so late. Y'all found out two years late. No, 0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:03.040 it was issued January eight six three, but it was 0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:06.560 unenforceable because they need control in the Federate States. Uh. 0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:09.000 And then of course the war didn't end until April 0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:11.600 of eighteen sixty five. And then of course with General 0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:14.960 Granger comes in June sixty five. But anybody who's still 0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:18.360 running around talking about, oh, they freed the slaves, not true. 0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:22.480 It was in December when the thirteenth Amendment was actually 0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:26.440 a past that actually what officially in the slavery And 0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:29.960 but then again it didn't officially in slavery because slavery 0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:32.239 is still on the books because we have other thing 0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:35.560 called the prison systems. And so what I am hopeful 0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:38.080 and we're already seeing it is that by June Tea 0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:41.319 now being a national federal holiday, we're going to have 0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:44.920 people who now forced to actually learn American history and 0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:47.920 know what the hell actually happened in this country and 0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:52.640 not just believe of the fictionalized version or or the 0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:56.279 half story. We've often been told, well tell me something 0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:58.040 real quick. And I know, my son, you have uh 0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:03.080 question as well. But what did June Teeth look like 0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:06.479 in Texas all these years? Like now we see off 0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:11.520 businesses closed, government agencies closed. It was that. So everything 0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:14.960 you're seeing the federal level you saw in Texas. Uh. 0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:18.239 I mean you had again, you had businesses that closed, 0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:23.080 you had celebrations, you had commemorations. Uh you you you 0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:26.440 had you had outdoor concert. I mean, so all this 0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:29.280 stuff that you're sting the national level, because you gotta remember, 0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:34.080 other black people in other states began to also have 0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:38.239 June Team celebrations. So June Teeth you saw, you saw 0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:41.800 stuff in North Carolina, South Carolina, and so it began 0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:45.400 to be embracing other all across the South, other parts 0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:48.160 of the country, and so it became a theme. And 0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:51.799 that's why when um it then when it when they 0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:54.760 got elevated, there was just talk about making the national holiday. 0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:58.480 That's because June Team had already being celebrated in twenty 0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:01.839 plus states, and so it is become a thing, and 0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:05.040 people have to understand this is the only this is 0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:12.600 the only national event that even recognizes mentions are invoked 0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:16.600 slavery m And so when I hear people say we 0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:20.000 didn't ask for this, I need people to understand that 0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:24.359 it's our opportunity to how we also use this So 0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:28.600 CNN and at the big concert from the Hollywood Bowl, 0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:33.120 and that's great, but how are you using those same 0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:37.600 airways to educate people on the actual story, the actual history. 0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:39.880 You got everybody piste off from the Kohenah Jones and 0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:42.960 the sixteen nine team project. Uh, And they've picked off 0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:46.160 the black historians like um, you know, like Dr gred 0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:49.719 Car and uh, like uh and so many others who 0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:52.439 have been talking about these things for years. But this 0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:56.520 is the opportunity for us to educate, not as African Americans, 0:36:56.960 --> 0:37:01.640 educate all Americans, because too often we've had really a 0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:06.239 a horrible, horrible history lesson in this country because we 0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:09.960 haven't been wanting to tell the true story all of it, 0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:12.040 and so this is the opportunity that we actually had. 0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:17.040 So listening to you, you said that the thirteenth Amendment 0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:23.880 was what actually was the freedom. So the proclamation didn't 0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:29.760 free to slaves. No, the proclamation only applied to slavery 0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:35.040 in the states that were in rebellion, the Confederate States. 0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:41.080 But the proclamation also exempted certain border states like Maryland 0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:45.600 and Missouri, so that as a basal proclamation did it 0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:49.960 wasn't like this freees all slaves in America. No, it 0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:54.319 was specific to the states that were in rebellion, and 0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:58.640 then there were still exemptions, so slavery still continue after 0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:02.680 eighteen sixty three. Then it wasn't until a from ninth, 0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:07.200 eighteen sixty five when the Confederates when they surrendered that 0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:12.520 then it applied to those states. But in Texas they 0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:15.400 that they resisted that and they kept it going for 0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:18.600 two more months, and that's when General Granger and those 0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:21.960 black troops came in in eighteen sixty five and said, no, 0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:25.400 you're actually free. Because they had to send those federal 0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:29.040 troops to different states to notify the people of the 0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:33.239 formerly enslaved people of African descent. But again even then 0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:38.400 even then, slavery was not illegal. It wasn't until the 0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:44.280 thirteenth Amendment, the first of the three Reconstruction Amendments fourteen 0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:48.000 and fiftieth Amendment. But even when the thirteenth Amendment was passed, 0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:53.040 it allowed for slavery in volunteers, the involunteering service, whatever 0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:56.239 you wanna call it, for the Constitution reads. So slavery 0:38:56.360 --> 0:39:02.799 in America still exists in our prison systems. Right, that's 0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:04.560 why we ask why to maka, You and I have 0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:06.680 just talked about this beforehand, while we have to deal 0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:10.320 with this issue. So, like I personally believe that companies 0:39:10.680 --> 0:39:15.360 should not be using prison labor because, if we understand 0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:21.480 our history, after after the Reconstruction period, those same racist 0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:24.879 Southern plantation owners needed black folks to work the land. 0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:28.600 So the Panics system came into place. So they literally 0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:32.440 created systems to keep people black people enslaved. And so 0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:35.120 then you had all of these laws, these these these 0:39:35.280 --> 0:39:38.320 minor and fractions that lad the long prison terms to 0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:43.600 keep people of African ascent still working the land. And 0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:47.799 so that's why if you read the book um um 0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:51.239 uh God, why is it? Why is it escaping me? Uh? 0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:53.920 And I follow him want to pull a surprise. That's 0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:56.799 why I always say it's called slavery without shackles. Uh, 0:39:56.880 --> 0:40:00.000 Jim Crow with slavery without shackles. Right, The system still exist, 0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:05.439 sharecropping still exists. About Savory by another name, yeah, yeah 0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:09.960 name yeah. And Alexander right yeah no, no, no, no no, 0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:18.160 he's a reporter with the US the Land of Constitution. Um. Yeah, so, 0:40:18.640 --> 0:40:21.600 but but that's what I'm always telling people that, um, 0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:26.919 look understand what happened after Douglas Black Douglas Black slave 0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:30.360 by another name, UM called the reenslavement of black Americans 0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:33.040 from a civil world World War two. That's called slave 0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:37.160 without shops and so, which now means if we're having 0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:41.600 this June tenth conversation and we're discussing the mass based proclamation, 0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:46.000 we're discussing the PEAT system, we're discussing this now we're 0:40:46.000 --> 0:40:51.640 getting into the economics. Now, I would see that's that's 0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:55.560 that's why can the holiday. I want us to go 0:40:55.840 --> 0:40:59.680 there to talk about the commemoration side and the commitment side, 0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:02.120 because we've been you've been talking about equity, right, like 0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:05.120 that's what makes this whole thing important. But before you 0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:08.520 go there, we're still on the historic piece. Right, So 0:41:08.600 --> 0:41:12.160 we so right now, what we're learning is that there 0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:18.239 were many layers and levels to what freedom was supposed 0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:21.480 to be. But you're saying that the folks in Texas. 0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:23.239 I just want to make sure we're clear on this. 0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:25.640 The folks in Texas is not that they were just 0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:30.239 late and slow, but there was an actual attempt to 0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:33.800 stop the people from Texas from learning anything about it 0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:37.400 until the Black troops arrived. Now, the question I have 0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:40.759 for you is did the black troops go because I 0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:43.960 think you said they traveled around to many places where 0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:46.960 there are other states like Texas that they had to 0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:50.800 go to that were late in terms of being free. 0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:56.680 You got to remember remember during that period, um those 0:41:56.680 --> 0:42:01.960 othern states resisted, so they placed federal troops in state 0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:07.520 capitals to make sure those state lawmakers did not continue 0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:12.080 with the level of racism. So remember reconstruction last ten 0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:15.000 twelve years. The D. D. Dubos book put it at 0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:18.280 twenty years. But so when you got to the election 0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:23.520 of eighteen seventy six, the catestity election, So the Great 0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:28.799 Compromise of eighteen seventy seven was all right, we're gonna 0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:34.200 let Hayes become president. We Southern Democrats. We promised to 0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:38.760 leave the Negroes alone, so we need y'all to withdraw 0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:42.920 the last There were three states where Southern where federal 0:42:43.000 --> 0:42:46.680 troops remained in the state capital to keep those Southern 0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:52.840 states from essentially reimposing slavery. So the deal was cut 0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:56.000 in eighteen So that's what it's called the Great Compromise 0:42:56.280 --> 0:43:02.279 of eighteen seventy seven. Well, black Republicans blasted their own 0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:05.759 party for agreeing to that deal. It was a contested 0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:09.920 election in eighteen seventy six, So the deal was Southern 0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:13.360 Democrats said, I will let the Republican Hayes becomes president, 0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:16.760 but y'all a got to agree to remove the federal 0:43:16.840 --> 0:43:21.200 troops from the last three Southern states. The Republicans agreed 0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:24.560 to that the worst decision ever because the moment they 0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:30.439 did that, those racist Southern Democrats immediately reimposed Jim Crow. 0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:33.839 And that's the That was the beginning of Jim Crow, 0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:37.040 which lasted for the next ninety two years. And that's 0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:40.319 what you saw. A systematic You saw a systematic change. 0:43:40.360 --> 0:43:42.880 Just remember get Great Comments of eighteen seventy seven. You 0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:45.120 had a Supreme Court in the place in verse for 0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:47.360 a furgus of decision. But then you get the Supreme 0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:50.720 Court invalidating the Civil Rights Act I think was eighteen 0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:56.919 seventy five, where they literally ruled Congress could not outlaw discrimination, 0:43:57.360 --> 0:44:00.480 and the Supreme Court opened that particular door. And then 0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:04.080 you had those black state legislators who were then kicked 0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:07.800 out of Congress, kicked out of the United States Senate. 0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:10.080 And then, of course in e. T. Ninety you the 0:44:10.120 --> 0:44:13.920 Mississippi Constitutional Convention where they said, we are tired of 0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:16.480 black people getting elected the state wide office, and so 0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:19.600 they changed the constitution Mississippi. And there was a guy 0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:23.080 in Isaiah T. Montgomery and African American. He was the 0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:27.480 only black person who was attending it. He voted, along 0:44:27.560 --> 0:44:30.360 with those races to strip the power of the vote 0:44:30.520 --> 0:44:34.440 from black people. And as a result, that's why whenever you, 0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:37.200 whenever we call O, I don't use words like uncle 0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:39.520 Tom sellout o yo, I don't use it. I don't 0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:42.680 allow those to be used. But when I see there 0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:47.680 as a black Republican, who will who will? Who will? 0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:50.560 Who will this black folks? I called them a modern 0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:54.160 day Isaiah T. Montgomery, And he owned businesses and and 0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:57.160 he here this day, his name is mud in Mississippi 0:44:57.400 --> 0:45:01.160 because of that decision. But they were angry with black advancement. 0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:02.960 And the thing that to me, because that people don't 0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:07.399 understand that it's so frustrating, is that Yo, after after 0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:11.240 methanmist proculamation, in any of the Civil War, black people 0:45:11.440 --> 0:45:14.640 stop start getting elected. And if you read James D. 0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:18.040 Anderson's book The Education of Blacks in the South eighteen 0:45:18.120 --> 0:45:22.720 sixty nineteen thirty, what you will realize is that black 0:45:22.880 --> 0:45:26.960 people put in the state constitution in the South for 0:45:27.120 --> 0:45:32.920 publicly financed education. Those were black let's legislators. And when 0:45:33.000 --> 0:45:35.920 they booted all the black folks out and change the laws, 0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:41.520 they kept that provision right there. So we ow freed 0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:46.680 slaves for they're being taxpyer funded education uh in the 0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:49.360 South as a result of them being elected to office. 0:45:49.680 --> 0:45:53.920 And so all of that, all of that history, um 0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:57.640 is really a part of June tenth and so this 0:45:58.120 --> 0:46:01.600 this constant battle for either So it wasn't that they 0:46:01.640 --> 0:46:07.600 were free, No, they were free from being enslaved, but 0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:11.080 they were still not free. So what we have in 0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:14.200 Texas have been saying all these years that we are 0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:18.719 in a constant battle for freedom, that we still are 0:46:18.920 --> 0:46:24.279 not free. We simply were no longer enslaved. Am So 0:46:24.800 --> 0:46:26.799 what do you think that we should be doing now? 0:46:27.000 --> 0:46:29.640 How should we be commemorating June teams Like as as 0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:32.080 a people, we should be the next step there too, 0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:37.040 There's a we should be commemorating and celebrating, but there 0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:44.279 should be a mission involved politically registering people to vote. Two, 0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:47.880 we should be creating freedom schools where we literally are 0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:51.440 teaching this history. Uh, those freedom school existed in the 0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:54.000 civil rights movement, and in fact, Marry and Right Elements 0:46:54.080 --> 0:46:57.600 Group Children's Defense Fund they actually still do the freedom 0:46:57.640 --> 0:47:00.719 schools that they do the training at Alex Haley's former 0:47:00.800 --> 0:47:03.880 farm in Tennessee. Um and funny because I was on 0:47:03.960 --> 0:47:05.839 the train with her from New York and she told 0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:07.840 me about that and I didn't even know that, And 0:47:07.920 --> 0:47:10.719 I said, wild, Marian, I literally have been talking about 0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:14.080 freedom schools and my speeches for a decade. I'm talking 0:47:14.080 --> 0:47:16.759 about how we needed that. But thirdly, we should be 0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:20.880 using June tieth is black economics in terms of we 0:47:20.960 --> 0:47:23.840 should be saying and again I'm being very I have 0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:27.320 I don't care. We should be saying if you're having events, 0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:34.200 are you using black caterers, black transportation companies, black pr companies, 0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:39.920 black event planners, black audio visual companies, black videographers, and 0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:44.359 all of that. Because I've long said America has never 0:47:44.440 --> 0:47:47.960 really had a problem with black people. We made America money. 0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:53.960 The problem is we never benefited economically from this, and 0:47:54.080 --> 0:47:57.560 so this should be an economic conversation. That also was 0:47:57.600 --> 0:47:59.760 a thing that we talked about that we also understood 0:47:59.760 --> 0:48:03.200 in as well. This is about economics. This is about 0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:06.000 ensuring that we're not throwing parties and then we're not 0:48:06.160 --> 0:48:09.560 benefiting from it. We have to contend with this wealth gap, 0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:12.480 this black wealth gap that is one tenth that of 0:48:12.560 --> 0:48:15.200 whites in this country. And that mean and it's yes, 0:48:15.440 --> 0:48:19.440 I totally understand people with the reparations argument and the 0:48:19.520 --> 0:48:23.759 reparations debate that's going on, but that's still hoping trying 0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:28.560 to convince somebody to actually pass reparations. I'm going after 0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:31.840 the money that's on the table right now. And and 0:48:32.000 --> 0:48:35.920 and my and again, where I am is where King was? 0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:40.640 You read that April third nine speech and listen to it. 0:48:40.920 --> 0:48:44.000 It's a forty three minute and sixteen second speech. We 0:48:44.160 --> 0:48:47.000 get caught up in. I've been to the mountaintop. I've 0:48:47.000 --> 0:48:49.640 seen the promised land No No, No, No, go back, 0:48:50.480 --> 0:48:54.400 where he talked about redistribute the pain. We've talked about 0:48:54.719 --> 0:48:58.320 supporting black businesses, where we've talked about going to places 0:48:58.560 --> 0:49:01.600 and shopping where they respect at us, employing us. Go 0:49:01.800 --> 0:49:04.719 back and read Martin Depp's book on Operation and bread 0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:08.879 Basket uh in nineteen sixty nineteen seventy one, and look 0:49:08.920 --> 0:49:11.160 at that particular book where they talked about what they 0:49:11.280 --> 0:49:14.040 did and how when they when they went after those companies, 0:49:14.280 --> 0:49:17.080 they were asking them to hire black people in senior management, 0:49:17.320 --> 0:49:21.280 hired black people on frontline jobs, invest money in black banks, 0:49:21.600 --> 0:49:25.160 hired black companies as contractors. And so part of the 0:49:25.239 --> 0:49:27.640 problem that I think that we've had is we've gotten 0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:32.480 so caught up and solely social justice, criminal justice reform, 0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:35.880 voting rights, which are all important. But if you do 0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:39.920 not deal with the money, then you're not actually dealing 0:49:40.000 --> 0:49:44.960 with America. America is about the money. There is one 0:49:45.560 --> 0:49:48.520 federal agency that shares along with the White House. You 0:49:48.560 --> 0:49:51.680 can they can literally play flag football together. You walk 0:49:51.800 --> 0:49:55.239 a hundred steps out of this building, you're in the 0:49:55.320 --> 0:49:59.960 East wing. That's the partner of treasure. White Houses power, treasury, 0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:02.960 his money. And so that's the thing that we have 0:50:03.480 --> 0:50:06.280 to be on. And so I don't talk about money 0:50:06.719 --> 0:50:10.200 as this is a love of money. But every problem 0:50:10.280 --> 0:50:14.800 that we talked about finances has a direct correlation to 0:50:14.920 --> 0:50:18.400 that issue. We said it all the time. You just 0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:20.800 said they didn't they didn't feel more in the dreamer. 0:50:20.840 --> 0:50:22.920 They got mad when he woke up. You know, they 0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:24.880 want to give us the dreamer and tell us. You 0:50:25.040 --> 0:50:27.279 never tell us about when he woke up. But here's 0:50:27.280 --> 0:50:29.000 a deal, though. He's a deal. Though. Even even if 0:50:29.040 --> 0:50:31.839 you use that about took out the dream, the same 0:50:31.960 --> 0:50:34.680 folk didn't even lets to that speech. That was a 0:50:35.000 --> 0:50:40.000 radical economic speech. But seeing again, so I'm gonna use 0:50:40.000 --> 0:50:43.680 it this way. The dream part of King's speech is 0:50:43.760 --> 0:50:47.760 the hoop part of a preconcern. Oh that's when he started. 0:50:48.239 --> 0:50:51.239 He's he he's, he's you know, he's rhyming and and 0:50:51.440 --> 0:50:54.040 and and the organis is playing. But so when Turks 0:50:54.040 --> 0:50:56.560 always was a man passed to preach that thing, and 0:50:56.719 --> 0:50:59.600 he say what did he preach about? And he got 0:50:59.680 --> 0:51:02.960 three point and then they say, I don't really know, man, 0:51:03.040 --> 0:51:05.680 he preached that thing, which means you can't tell me 0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:09.360 the scripture and you can't tell me the three points. 0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:12.160 But you got caught up in the hoop part, so 0:51:12.280 --> 0:51:16.200 that I have a dream the mountaintop. That's the hoop part. 0:51:16.719 --> 0:51:20.760 But the whole part, the whope part, whop and hope 0:51:20.800 --> 0:51:24.080 if we can put those things together right. But that's 0:51:24.120 --> 0:51:28.000 the that's that, that's the wet it. You can't see that. 0:51:28.200 --> 0:51:30.880 That's that makes you feel good part. But you've got 0:51:31.000 --> 0:51:35.520 to deal with the CSIS or the scripture, which is 0:51:35.560 --> 0:51:37.080 what he laid out when he said they gave us 0:51:37.080 --> 0:51:40.799 a checkstamp insufficient funds. And so that was the whole deal. 0:51:41.239 --> 0:51:43.200 So the battle for the four acres in the middle, 0:51:43.640 --> 0:51:46.680 the battle for right land rights, uh, the amount of 0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:49.839 black land that was stolen in this country. Black people 0:51:49.840 --> 0:51:53.080 who were literally run out of Arkansas, Mississippi, in Texas 0:51:53.120 --> 0:51:57.959 and Alabama, fleeing racism, fleeing uh you know, black black 0:51:58.120 --> 0:52:01.200 husband's uh, running out because they said we will kill 0:52:01.280 --> 0:52:04.920 you if y'all stick around. Black people literally left acres 0:52:05.000 --> 0:52:08.200 of land because of safety. When you think about Tulsa, 0:52:08.560 --> 0:52:10.560 when you think about the brother who owned the black 0:52:10.640 --> 0:52:13.680 newspaper who fled from Tulsa, and then they tell to 0:52:13.719 --> 0:52:16.000 blame it on him, and he opened a black newspaper 0:52:16.080 --> 0:52:19.640 in Buffalo. That's economics. And so this is what I'm 0:52:19.680 --> 0:52:22.959 talking about. How and so many of our people ain't 0:52:23.000 --> 0:52:26.000 got no clue about any of this, And so I 0:52:26.160 --> 0:52:29.520 want us to use June King and Black History Month 0:52:29.800 --> 0:52:32.920 and m OK's birthday to expand this. I keep telling people, 0:52:33.200 --> 0:52:35.800 don't play I have a dream for the mountaintop a 0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:38.680 part at any m o K event unless you go 0:52:38.880 --> 0:52:43.640 play the other part. Let me let me so that 0:52:43.960 --> 0:52:45.560 I gotta go all the way back. This is the end. 0:52:45.640 --> 0:52:49.040 We're done. We at the end of your education. Today 0:52:49.120 --> 0:52:53.960 out and told you that your new job is to 0:52:54.480 --> 0:53:01.080 start some type of educational forum, if you will, or activists, 0:53:01.760 --> 0:53:04.839 young activists where they can hear that. Because it's one 0:53:04.920 --> 0:53:08.399 thing to put a book in someone's team. You've been 0:53:08.840 --> 0:53:11.240 giving me books to read, and I've been reading along 0:53:11.440 --> 0:53:15.880 for a while, Tiffany offten, we read along. But it 0:53:16.080 --> 0:53:18.920 is something else to hear you say the things that 0:53:19.080 --> 0:53:21.960 you just said and then get interested enough where you 0:53:22.080 --> 0:53:26.600 want to be fed more. And that's the core, and 0:53:26.800 --> 0:53:30.480 that's what drives people to read. I had when we 0:53:30.600 --> 0:53:37.880 did a session together uh last week on team with Infocis, 0:53:38.840 --> 0:53:42.640 and when you got off, they asked me. A woman 0:53:42.760 --> 0:53:46.440 said that she was struggling with helping getting her children, 0:53:46.600 --> 0:53:50.080 especially her sons, to sit down and read. She said, 0:53:50.120 --> 0:53:53.879 it's really difficult. It's the hardest part of their educational experience. 0:53:54.480 --> 0:53:57.400 And what I said to her is it's the content. 0:53:57.560 --> 0:54:01.320 It's what you're giving them to read. To your point 0:54:01.800 --> 0:54:05.160 after school at Hollid, if you want them to read, 0:54:05.520 --> 0:54:07.160 you have to be able to give them things that 0:54:07.239 --> 0:54:10.520 it's interesting. Well, the thing about what you're doing in 0:54:10.680 --> 0:54:14.359 terms of educating people is you make folks interested enough 0:54:14.440 --> 0:54:17.759 to go read the content, right, the material they don't 0:54:17.800 --> 0:54:20.200 want to just read when you're telling them that basically 0:54:20.280 --> 0:54:24.080 white people had everything. Black folks was just slaves and 0:54:24.160 --> 0:54:27.400 there's not no stories except Martin, Luther, King and Roll 0:54:28.280 --> 0:54:31.480 and that's the end of the history. Lesson. But that's 0:54:31.520 --> 0:54:33.000 not what I want to talk about. I'm going back 0:54:33.040 --> 0:54:36.080 to your first point about people who said we don't 0:54:36.120 --> 0:54:38.680 need June team. I didn't say we don't need you team, 0:54:38.719 --> 0:54:41.399 but I was certainly one of those saying we are 0:54:41.520 --> 0:54:46.160 calling for this, this and this criminal justice issues. We're 0:54:46.239 --> 0:54:50.040 calling for marijuana reform, we want people released. We all 0:54:50.120 --> 0:54:52.680 of it. We want gun money for gun violence, and 0:54:52.840 --> 0:54:55.880 y'all giving us this holiday. And what we were concerned 0:54:55.960 --> 0:54:59.400 about is that you could get a holiday and not 0:54:59.680 --> 0:55:03.840 get the other legislative items that need to move that 0:55:04.040 --> 0:55:07.840 brings down. So we already understand. You know that, and 0:55:08.000 --> 0:55:11.600 you agree with that. But also you're saying Juneteenth is 0:55:11.680 --> 0:55:15.160 important because it forces us to have those other conversations. 0:55:15.239 --> 0:55:17.440 It forces people to say, if you believe in observing 0:55:18.000 --> 0:55:20.320 the holiday, then you shouldn't believe in giving us what 0:55:20.480 --> 0:55:23.319 Juneteenth is supposed to be about. That's not even my point. 0:55:23.640 --> 0:55:26.520 I saw, uh in the last couple of days that 0:55:26.600 --> 0:55:30.239 you were in a heated exchange with other people that 0:55:30.320 --> 0:55:34.400 I respect intellectually on Twitter. Y'all were going back and 0:55:34.480 --> 0:55:39.680 forth about the Asian hate bill versus the African American 0:55:39.760 --> 0:55:43.880 hate bill. And I see both sides. I see you 0:55:44.080 --> 0:55:48.439 saying that under the Civil Rights um, the Civil rights 0:55:48.560 --> 0:55:52.160 what is it called the Civil Civil Rights Act, that's 0:55:52.160 --> 0:55:56.839 the word um, that it does cover hate crime issues, right. 0:55:57.239 --> 0:56:01.839 But then I see these individuals saying, well, how come 0:56:02.000 --> 0:56:05.680 we can get an Asian bill, an lgbt Q I 0:56:05.800 --> 0:56:08.640 A bill. Now I have checked this out I know 0:56:09.000 --> 0:56:12.200 the Asian Bill happened. You got Mitch McConnell's wife, an 0:56:12.280 --> 0:56:15.239 Asian woman. You've got a whole Congress that was on 0:56:15.360 --> 0:56:18.239 the same page about voting for the Asian hate bill. 0:56:18.840 --> 0:56:21.040 But black folks do want to see, just like we 0:56:21.160 --> 0:56:23.960 got June Tea. They want to see something that says 0:56:24.120 --> 0:56:28.200 African American portex Just skip one, skip one. The Matthew 0:56:28.280 --> 0:56:31.719 Shepherd James Bird Act. Oh, I see, I don't know 0:56:31.840 --> 0:56:34.399 that one. Tell me that was that was a hate 0:56:34.400 --> 0:56:38.520 crimes bill. It was named after Matthew Shepherd, the uh, 0:56:39.000 --> 0:56:42.080 the gay young man who was killed, and James Bird. 0:56:42.160 --> 0:56:45.080 It is called the Matthew Shepherd James Bird Hate that 0:56:46.160 --> 0:56:50.719 and it's and that's again that's specifically named after gay 0:56:50.800 --> 0:56:53.560 white boy and a black man. And it was and 0:56:53.640 --> 0:56:57.160 that was in response to hate crimes. And so what 0:56:57.320 --> 0:57:00.319 people have to understand is that and and that's why 0:57:00.360 --> 0:57:06.120 I walk people through the impetus for the COVID nineteen 0:57:06.440 --> 0:57:10.600 Hate Act was the attack on Asians. That was the impetus. 0:57:11.960 --> 0:57:15.000 But the impetus does not mean it's only for them 0:57:15.400 --> 0:57:18.840 or it was only about them. So this year is 0:57:18.920 --> 0:57:23.520 the fiftieth anniversary of Title nine. Right, if you're a woman, 0:57:24.160 --> 0:57:27.200 you're like, man, I'm glad we have Title nine. Title 0:57:27.280 --> 0:57:31.960 nine wasn't about sports. Title nine actually was about opening 0:57:32.080 --> 0:57:36.440 the professional schools two women. So you had an explosion 0:57:36.560 --> 0:57:42.160 of women, doctors, dentists, lawyers, engineers. You name it because 0:57:42.200 --> 0:57:45.520 of Title nine, asked the average person where the town 0:57:45.600 --> 0:57:48.640 nine comes from. It is a provision of the Civil 0:57:48.760 --> 0:57:54.440 Rights Act. As somebody as somebody who's disabled with the 0:57:54.560 --> 0:57:57.160 with the American Disabilities Act. Do you know how that 0:57:57.240 --> 0:58:00.360 got passed. It's a provision of the Civil Rights It's act. 0:58:00.760 --> 0:58:04.280 But listen, I gotta add one thing. Add one thing. 0:58:04.960 --> 0:58:07.840 Why were women even put in the Civil Rights Act? 0:58:08.360 --> 0:58:11.400 Because the racist state representative out of Virginia, I think 0:58:11.400 --> 0:58:13.920 his last name was Smith, he thought that's what was 0:58:13.920 --> 0:58:16.240 gonna kill the ability to put women in. In fact, 0:58:16.280 --> 0:58:19.840 it got more votes. So what people are arguing when 0:58:19.840 --> 0:58:25.240 they say they want to see a specific deal for us, 0:58:25.920 --> 0:58:30.440 you can't. Laws that are passed by Congress don't apply 0:58:31.120 --> 0:58:35.280 just to one particular group. But that's not when you 0:58:35.280 --> 0:58:38.040 see when you hear the word Asian, right, that's that's 0:58:38.080 --> 0:58:40.360 the particular group agent. It's not in the it's not 0:58:40.480 --> 0:58:44.960 in the build. No it's not bill. No, it's not. 0:58:45.520 --> 0:58:49.960 It is called the COVID nineteen Hate Act. That's what 0:58:50.040 --> 0:58:53.640 the bill is called. It is, it is not, it was, 0:58:53.800 --> 0:58:57.640 it was, it was. It was because you had at 0:58:57.760 --> 0:59:02.080 tax on Asians, is your hat an increase? You had 0:59:02.160 --> 0:59:05.680 individuals who were saying, we need some protection. If you 0:59:05.800 --> 0:59:11.320 actually read the bill, it literally does not apply to 0:59:11.480 --> 0:59:17.240 just Asians. The pretext of the bill describes these things 0:59:17.280 --> 0:59:20.840 that have happened to Asians. But when you read the bill, 0:59:21.080 --> 0:59:25.320 when you read the remedies, the remedies applied to everybody. 0:59:25.760 --> 0:59:29.600 The creation of a database that applies. That's not only 0:59:29.760 --> 0:59:33.200 Asian attacks that go in, that's attacks as any hate 0:59:33.240 --> 0:59:37.480 crime attack going that database. So so when you read 0:59:37.520 --> 0:59:41.240 so so the video, actually it's not a strong bill. 0:59:42.040 --> 0:59:46.240 It doesn't actually do a lot. In fact, the bill 0:59:46.360 --> 0:59:49.160 that was passed by the House after the Buffalo shooting 0:59:49.880 --> 0:59:56.600 actually is a stronger deal against white domestic terrorists black. Basically, 0:59:56.680 --> 0:59:59.960 you're saying the possibility of us is getting a bill 1:00:00.360 --> 1:00:04.040 that says black, it's not gonna happen because because because 1:00:04.120 --> 1:00:08.200 roling before you answer that, the issue is marketing, right, 1:00:08.480 --> 1:00:11.680 You've got the White House using the word Asian. You 1:00:12.000 --> 1:00:16.120 have um, you have also Congress talking about the Asian 1:00:16.240 --> 1:00:20.240 hate crime, and you had the Asian community right being 1:00:20.440 --> 1:00:23.960 very very grateful for what happened, and they're connected officials 1:00:24.000 --> 1:00:28.160 and others stepping forward. Why is it so hard? Because 1:00:28.240 --> 1:00:31.160 now you've got LGBT that's just signed the other day. 1:00:31.280 --> 1:00:33.840 That may not be the name of that, that was 1:00:33.880 --> 1:00:38.280 an executive orders executive What is the problem? And that's 1:00:38.320 --> 1:00:41.240 what I'm saying, I hear you. But how was how 1:00:41.440 --> 1:00:45.400 was civil rights at soul? That was black? Okay? Well, 1:00:45.520 --> 1:00:48.640 but guess what. Guess what? We need it again? We 1:00:48.800 --> 1:00:51.520 need to do it now something again again Okay, but 1:00:51.720 --> 1:00:54.919 but but again Okay, So we want the Civil Rights 1:00:55.000 --> 1:00:58.360 Act again when you already have a civil Rights Act. Well, 1:00:58.560 --> 1:01:01.440 I don't know so much about this Civil Rights Act again, 1:01:01.760 --> 1:01:04.160 but I don't okay, So, so what is the bill? 1:01:04.360 --> 1:01:06.080 What does the bill that people want? What's the bill? 1:01:06.440 --> 1:01:09.840 Definitely something around lynchings, because we haven't even passed that, 1:01:10.000 --> 1:01:12.200 have we? No? No, it's pegs aren't been signed the law. 1:01:12.280 --> 1:01:14.600 It's when when was that that was last year? Or 1:01:14.640 --> 1:01:17.720 something that just happened. It just happened right right, right, 1:01:17.760 --> 1:01:20.480 But Okay, but the point they didn't say. They weren't 1:01:20.520 --> 1:01:24.040 walking around saying it's the black anti Lynching bill. They 1:01:24.120 --> 1:01:27.400 never used that language. Every time, it seems like everything 1:01:27.480 --> 1:01:30.080 that has to do with black people, the language that's 1:01:30.200 --> 1:01:33.400 used is inclusive. No no, no, no. The George Floyd 1:01:33.480 --> 1:01:37.440 for perfect example, the George Floyd Justice Act applied, will 1:01:37.480 --> 1:01:42.520 apply to everybody. That bill has actually been positioned essentially 1:01:42.560 --> 1:01:46.800 as a black bill. Okay, but you get no no no, no, no, 1:01:46.920 --> 1:01:50.240 no no no no no again though, again, this is 1:01:50.280 --> 1:01:54.640 what I'm trying to understand. Do we want do we 1:01:54.760 --> 1:01:59.840 want for remedy or do we want them to say 1:02:00.040 --> 1:02:04.000 black when they actually said black before? Are we saying 1:02:04.200 --> 1:02:07.320 we want to hear the two because again, yeah, I'm 1:02:07.360 --> 1:02:10.240 saying I think that, so I'm I'm just I'm saying 1:02:10.280 --> 1:02:13.400 it is Literally, when the Civil Rights Act was passed, 1:02:13.760 --> 1:02:17.520 that was black. When the Matthew Shepherd James James Burt 1:02:17.600 --> 1:02:21.240 Act was passed, that was gay and black. So we've 1:02:21.280 --> 1:02:25.080 actually had it before, so they a problem. The problem. 1:02:25.080 --> 1:02:28.440 The problem is we've actually had deals before where black 1:02:28.640 --> 1:02:31.160 was mentioned. It was called the so called Black Bill 1:02:31.520 --> 1:02:34.240 Voting Rights Act, even though that applies the variety of people. 1:02:34.680 --> 1:02:37.880 That's always been framed as a black issue. And so 1:02:38.920 --> 1:02:41.800 but it sounds to me like people today like, well, 1:02:42.080 --> 1:02:44.240 I wasn't around in I want to hear black now. 1:02:44.560 --> 1:02:47.600 But you act as if that hasn't happened. It's simply 1:02:47.720 --> 1:02:50.760 factually inforrect But but but but I think I think 1:02:50.800 --> 1:02:53.080 it's true that we haven't been around. Right, I'm forty two, 1:02:53.200 --> 1:02:56.439 So the history that you had there is new. There's 1:02:56.640 --> 1:02:59.200 the new information for me to learn every day. But 1:02:59.360 --> 1:03:02.280 what I will say is that the challenges that we're 1:03:02.360 --> 1:03:06.800 facing require new and improved approaches, right, and we know 1:03:07.000 --> 1:03:11.200 that there needs to be new ways, just like just 1:03:11.320 --> 1:03:13.960 like the George Floyd Justice and Police and Acts had 1:03:14.040 --> 1:03:16.760 to be passed because there needs to be new remedy 1:03:17.040 --> 1:03:20.680 remedies or had to be signed the executive order because 1:03:20.680 --> 1:03:22.960 it needs to be new remedies to deal with policing. 1:03:23.240 --> 1:03:26.360 But it's not enough. We're still dealing with matth. We're 1:03:26.400 --> 1:03:33.840 still so what specifically do we want? Here's here's the deal, 1:03:33.880 --> 1:03:38.000 here's the deal. I don't I don't waste times like yo, 1:03:38.080 --> 1:03:41.640 we need a black bill. Okay, what's the bill? And 1:03:41.720 --> 1:03:43.960 then with some and then what's like, what's the bill. 1:03:45.320 --> 1:03:47.160 I'm gonna tell you this, and we're gonna we're gonna 1:03:47.880 --> 1:03:50.800 end this for now. But obviously there's need for much 1:03:50.880 --> 1:03:55.400 more dialogue on screen, off screen, on Twitter, off Twitter, 1:03:55.480 --> 1:03:57.680 because we have to all get educated, because we all 1:03:57.720 --> 1:04:00.640 on the same side. The one thing I will say 1:04:00.720 --> 1:04:03.560 is that in that Asian hate bill, which you said 1:04:03.760 --> 1:04:11.280 is the COVID, hey at, there were resources that was 1:04:11.400 --> 1:04:17.000 specifically earmarked for therapeutic services and you know, and and 1:04:17.200 --> 1:04:22.840 services basically to address dealing with violence within the Asian No, 1:04:23.360 --> 1:04:28.360 that's not true. That is that is not true. Any 1:04:28.600 --> 1:04:31.479 group can apply. No, I'm trying to tell you any 1:04:31.840 --> 1:04:35.200 group can apply for the funds, okay, to help you're 1:04:35.280 --> 1:04:41.240 doing a better job. I'm literally I literally read the 1:04:41.280 --> 1:04:45.320 bill on the air. The woman who actually put the 1:04:45.400 --> 1:04:48.920 provision in with the money responded to the tweets, to 1:04:49.160 --> 1:04:52.640 one of the tweets, So again the grants that you're 1:04:52.680 --> 1:04:57.240 talking about, any group, any community group can apply, Okay. 1:04:57.280 --> 1:04:59.480 I'm just telling you money is not the money is 1:04:59.520 --> 1:05:04.240 not only for Asian groups to apply. There's no job. 1:05:04.400 --> 1:05:07.760 They're not doing a good job. That's that's those jobs. 1:05:08.280 --> 1:05:11.400 And I promise you that black folks who are dealing 1:05:11.440 --> 1:05:15.800 with mass shootings on the streets of Africa don't know 1:05:15.960 --> 1:05:18.080 that they can go apply right now to get that. 1:05:19.000 --> 1:05:21.360 Which is why I need those black people to watch 1:05:21.520 --> 1:05:23.960 Rollombart on filter in the Black Start networks because the 1:05:24.040 --> 1:05:27.520 reality because the reality is you're not going to get 1:05:27.600 --> 1:05:30.880 information from these other sources. They're only gonna talk about that. 1:05:31.120 --> 1:05:33.760 And that's precisely why all of that stuff that I 1:05:33.880 --> 1:05:36.720 hurt from people. That's why I said, y'all, here's the bill, 1:05:37.120 --> 1:05:40.000 here's the language. Somebody to hear me in the check. 1:05:40.600 --> 1:05:42.960 What about the money, I'm like, they put in thirty million, 1:05:43.160 --> 1:05:45.360 Like what does this say? Right here? These are the 1:05:45.440 --> 1:05:48.280 groups the money is for. And so there are federal 1:05:48.400 --> 1:05:50.600 that that that are Look if you when you talk 1:05:50.600 --> 1:05:54.960 about okay LGBT, guess what if there are resources there 1:05:55.160 --> 1:06:00.000 for LGBT, black LGBT group should be applying. We shouldn't 1:06:00.000 --> 1:06:01.840 mean well that's the white folks. Know you black and 1:06:01.920 --> 1:06:05.320 gay or lesbian boom apply for the funds. What we 1:06:05.520 --> 1:06:08.320 have to understand is, and that's this is all I'm saying. 1:06:08.880 --> 1:06:12.080 I need our people not to be so locked in 1:06:12.200 --> 1:06:15.360 loaded on the emotional part. I need us locked on 1:06:15.440 --> 1:06:19.000 the factual part and moving it forward, and so we 1:06:19.200 --> 1:06:21.959 know the impact the George for Justice Act. I told 1:06:22.000 --> 1:06:25.000 the families directly on the anniversary of his of his death. 1:06:25.320 --> 1:06:28.520 I said, y'all should call. Y'all should make a public 1:06:28.640 --> 1:06:31.760 call for President Joe Biden to have a meeting at 1:06:31.800 --> 1:06:35.120 the White House with y'all and law enforcement and until 1:06:35.240 --> 1:06:38.120 Scott Graham and McConnell to be at the meeting as well. 1:06:38.360 --> 1:06:40.320 I said, because and I told being prompt, I said, 1:06:40.560 --> 1:06:42.680 to get this thing back on track. I said, now 1:06:43.080 --> 1:06:46.000 here's the deal, y'all call for it. The Biden doesn't 1:06:46.040 --> 1:06:48.360 do it, that's on him. We can kick his ass, 1:06:48.720 --> 1:06:51.200 I said. But if he does it and Republicans don't 1:06:51.240 --> 1:06:53.360 show up, we know that's who we can target. But 1:06:53.520 --> 1:06:56.400 what I'm not gonna do, what I'm not gonna do, 1:06:56.560 --> 1:06:59.440 and this is where my studying of our history comes in. 1:07:00.000 --> 1:07:02.600 What I am not gonna do is get stopped at 1:07:02.640 --> 1:07:07.600 the emotional door and not focus on getting the results. 1:07:07.880 --> 1:07:11.240 And I think unfortunately too many of our people are 1:07:11.360 --> 1:07:14.400 caught up in well we didn't you don't say this, 1:07:15.320 --> 1:07:18.520 what does it say? What does it do? And I 1:07:18.680 --> 1:07:21.640 want us also focused on that because we have to 1:07:21.720 --> 1:07:24.680 get stuff done, but there's certainly much more need for 1:07:24.800 --> 1:07:28.160 conversation about this, and I'm and I love it because 1:07:28.240 --> 1:07:30.919 we all we gotta be brought up to speed because 1:07:30.960 --> 1:07:34.040 we're not going to be able to make any change 1:07:34.280 --> 1:07:36.640 if we just, you know, if we don't know the 1:07:36.800 --> 1:07:39.440 information right. And that's and that's why I black on 1:07:39.600 --> 1:07:43.600 Media Store important because look, because because again we're going 1:07:43.720 --> 1:07:47.120 to read the bills, we're gonna go get the information. 1:07:47.440 --> 1:07:50.640 We're gonna say, look, we're going after the sources. And 1:07:50.720 --> 1:07:52.880 that's the problem. And I'll be honest with you, a 1:07:53.000 --> 1:07:56.720 lot of our folks spend more time retweeting something MSNBC 1:07:56.920 --> 1:07:59.680 or CNN said than what we talked about, and people 1:07:59.720 --> 1:08:03.120 like we didn't know. That's why we did five days 1:08:03.160 --> 1:08:06.560 a week, every day every day, because well, I don't. 1:08:06.680 --> 1:08:09.480 I don't want us depend upon somebody else who's not 1:08:09.520 --> 1:08:13.560 going to give us the information. Rolland Martin Unfiltered, thank 1:08:13.640 --> 1:08:17.479 you for being with us today. You back for show, 1:08:18.240 --> 1:08:21.360 and y'all download the download the black Star Network out 1:08:21.800 --> 1:08:25.000 because that way, if YouTube and Facebook blockers trusted, we 1:08:25.120 --> 1:08:27.800 own the app and it won't be blocked. Right, Thank you, 1:08:28.360 --> 1:08:37.200 Thank you, appreciate all right, rolland has so much information 1:08:37.360 --> 1:08:42.519 in him. It's like, I mean, but but it's a lot, right, 1:08:42.840 --> 1:08:45.880 And there's so many different perspectives. We have a lot 1:08:45.960 --> 1:08:48.439 of other friends who have different perspectives and it and 1:08:48.520 --> 1:08:53.720 it all educated, right, brilliant people are brilliant. And we 1:08:53.880 --> 1:08:57.000 are talking about Joe Blow from over the road. We 1:08:57.120 --> 1:08:59.960 talked about people who also study and nate and I'm 1:09:00.080 --> 1:09:03.519 sure they have a perspective to respond to what he 1:09:03.800 --> 1:09:07.160 just said as well. Um, but it definitely helps me, 1:09:07.360 --> 1:09:10.639 Like I'm because I couldn't understand exactly what was happening. 1:09:11.160 --> 1:09:14.920 So now that he explains what his position is, I 1:09:15.160 --> 1:09:18.479 get why he continued to push his point. But I 1:09:18.720 --> 1:09:22.719 still understand the point that they were making in terms 1:09:22.800 --> 1:09:27.920 of the idea that the administration went out and marketed 1:09:28.040 --> 1:09:31.600 these bills. The reality is that black is not a 1:09:31.640 --> 1:09:34.040 good marketing. They don't want to use the word. They 1:09:34.040 --> 1:09:36.599 don't want to use, just like what you were talking 1:09:36.640 --> 1:09:40.160 about the Mareverary case, right, and you talked about how 1:09:40.880 --> 1:09:44.640 you know, um Bandon and others had wanted them to 1:09:44.840 --> 1:09:48.519 specifically point how this was racism that you know that 1:09:48.640 --> 1:09:53.800 the the attorney was using and a white woman who 1:09:54.080 --> 1:09:57.720 did an excellent job. She chose not to focus on that, 1:09:57.920 --> 1:10:01.200 right she wanted she because in the eyes of a 1:10:01.280 --> 1:10:04.639 lot of people in America, white people in America, it's 1:10:04.760 --> 1:10:07.360 not something that they want to identify with, right. They 1:10:07.360 --> 1:10:09.120 don't want to They don't want to focus on the 1:10:09.200 --> 1:10:11.680 fact that America's racist. They don't want to focus on 1:10:11.800 --> 1:10:15.320 the fact that these things are specifically happening to white people. Right, 1:10:15.360 --> 1:10:17.720 So they want to put us all into this one 1:10:17.880 --> 1:10:21.719 category and say, Okay, blacks will be able to benefit more, 1:10:22.080 --> 1:10:24.560 and it will actually happen if we don't focus it 1:10:24.960 --> 1:10:28.679 primarily on blacks. And that's just the strategy that America uses, 1:10:28.960 --> 1:10:31.080 and a lot of us aren't comfortable with that. We 1:10:31.200 --> 1:10:33.360 just gotta call it out direct but we have to 1:10:33.400 --> 1:10:36.280 cool it out directly until we make them uncomfortable enough 1:10:36.320 --> 1:10:38.240 to where they do things that they need to do 1:10:38.360 --> 1:10:41.200 for us directly. Listen, we got so much going on 1:10:41.400 --> 1:10:43.799 for June Team. We did get a lot of information 1:10:43.920 --> 1:10:46.040 from rolling and we need to actually cut the show 1:10:46.160 --> 1:10:49.120 so we could go jump on a June Team on 1:10:49.360 --> 1:10:55.280 celebration and commemoration event with our brother Reverend Stephen A. Green. 1:10:55.760 --> 1:10:59.800 So there is Unfortunately, we move and moving, moving, and 1:11:00.040 --> 1:11:02.639 and you know, I think that's what that's what it's 1:11:02.640 --> 1:11:04.720 all about. It's cool that we do a podcast, but 1:11:04.800 --> 1:11:07.200 it's even more important that we're on the ground because 1:11:07.200 --> 1:11:11.400 that at this evening we've got to be somewhere for 1:11:11.680 --> 1:11:14.400 Brittney Grinder. I mean, by the time folks get to 1:11:14.479 --> 1:11:17.720 see episodes that we need to be doing things. Yeah, 1:11:17.960 --> 1:11:21.160 by the time people see this episode in in just 1:11:21.360 --> 1:11:24.679 two days, we would have done more work than many 1:11:24.800 --> 1:11:29.120 folks do all year long in terms of their their activism. 1:11:29.360 --> 1:11:32.960 So with that said, I'm not gonna always be right 1:11:33.680 --> 1:11:36.000 to make a d Mallory is not gonna always be wrong, 1:11:36.080 --> 1:11:39.839 but we will both always and I mean always be authentic. 1:11:41.080 --> 1:11:46.320 June Teeth Peace. 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