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Speaker 1: Welcome back to a money edition of Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: It is our last episode of the twenty twenty two

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Speaker 1: the coaches get involved in the process, which they do. Now,

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Speaker 1: speaking of coaches, this actually it be for both of you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Mark, we can maybe say this a littit later.

429
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Speaker 1: I want to talk about later. But I don't get

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Speaker 1: Dre's thoughts. If you're a prospective coach and you're looking

431
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Speaker 1: at the Texans and you're just looking purely at salary

432
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Speaker 1: cap space a lot of draft picks this year, what's

433
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Speaker 1: currently on the roster? Where do you think this job?

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Speaker 1: I don't know one of their jobs. You're gonna be

435
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Speaker 1: a vailed. We know that Indianapolis is open, Carolina that

436
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Speaker 1: interim coach. I know I'm probably missing one button. No,

437
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Speaker 1: maybe Denver. Yeah, I don't know how it ranks with those,

438
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Speaker 1: But Dre, how do you look at it? When you

439
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Speaker 1: compare you got some cap space, You've got another couple

440
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Speaker 1: of drafts with a lot of draft picks, and you

441
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Speaker 1: do have some young foundational pieces. How do you look

442
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Speaker 1: at this job? Maybe this year as opposed to the

443
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Speaker 1: last couple of years, I think it's better. And whomever

444
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Speaker 1: is looking at it is looking at obviously the draft

445
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Speaker 1: capital in the next couple of years that's gonna be attractive.

446
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Speaker 1: What's there already? I think this roster is gonna get

447
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Speaker 1: torn the pieces, to be quite honest, especially on the

448
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Speaker 1: defensive side, because it was built in Love's and the

449
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Speaker 1: way he is, the way he likes it, which is

450
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Speaker 1: kind of Tampa two and some other things. They're on

451
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Speaker 1: a whole lot of guys running that defense across the

452
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Speaker 1: league now, So that and players on that side of

453
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Speaker 1: the ball, how fast can we can we get better?

454
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Speaker 1: Fortunately for whomever is coming in defensively, you can get

455
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Speaker 1: better in a hurry. That's the side of the ball

456
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Speaker 1: that you can actually tear it down and build it

457
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Speaker 1: back up and be very very competitive if you get

458
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Speaker 1: players to understand your system and what you're trying to do.

459
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Speaker 1: So I think that side of the ball is gonna

460
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Speaker 1: get torn out offensively. I think there'll be some shuffling there.

461
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Speaker 1: There're gonna be some receivers that come in here, There's

462
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Speaker 1: gonna be some more running backs other than Damian Peers

463
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Speaker 1: that come in. Now. I think he will be the

464
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Speaker 1: lead back obviously, but I think there's going to be

465
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Speaker 1: others that come in and compete, receivers that are going

466
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Speaker 1: to come in and compete. I happen to think they

467
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Speaker 1: have two outstanding tight ends to work with, so I

468
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Speaker 1: don't think that needs to be be messed with. And

469
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Speaker 1: obviously the position of quarterback in the offensive line, so

470
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Speaker 1: whomever's coming in has got to realize it's they are

471
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Speaker 1: going to have to strip it down to build it

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Speaker 1: back up. And how fast can you do that and

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Speaker 1: be competitive at the same time. Yeah, I think it's

474
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Speaker 1: in good shape for building it up, right, But you

475
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Speaker 1: gotta have alignment between the GM and the coach, and

476
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Speaker 1: I think that's that's kind of the attraction right now,

477
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Speaker 1: is the picks, the cap space Cassio alignment organization different

478
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Speaker 1: this time, and I'm not going to get into all

479
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Speaker 1: those details, but we all have the imagination this search

480
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Speaker 1: is going to be different and I'm looking forward to that.

481
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Speaker 1: And obviously you hope it's quick. I mean, you want

482
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Speaker 1: the guy today and you just want to have it

483
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Speaker 1: all done with and have the perfect candidate. But this

484
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Speaker 1: is a process, so we'll see how it goes. And

485
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Speaker 1: by the way, Cal McNair and Nick Kossario alive right

486
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Speaker 1: here at five thirty, so we'll talk a whole lot

487
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Speaker 1: more about this as the day progresses. Andre. Part of

488
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Speaker 1: the job is, you know, a huge part of the

489
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Speaker 1: job is one of the AFC South. And when we

490
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Speaker 1: were in Jacksonville this year and the Texans won that

491
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Speaker 1: game thirteen to six. You walk by, and Drey, you

492
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: were with me. We walk by the coach's offices and

493
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Speaker 1: it's kind of like the Jags football operations offices on

494
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Speaker 1: the way to the press box elevator, and they had

495
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Speaker 1: on the wall there right in front of where Doug

496
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Speaker 1: Peterson's office is, it had win the Division and huge

497
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Speaker 1: letters and it had all four logos up there win

498
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Speaker 1: the Division, and they could put the results of every

499
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Speaker 1: game that they play against AFC South opponents on there,

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Speaker 1: and I thought, Pa, when the division you silly Jaguars,

501
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Speaker 1: it's nice. It's a nice thought. I mean, come on, Doug,

502
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Speaker 1: set your set the bar a little lower so these

503
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Speaker 1: guys could actually get over it. Well, look at them

504
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Speaker 1: now they won the division. What about the rest of

505
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Speaker 1: the AFC South Drey moving forward? Because I still think

506
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Speaker 1: next year, I don't think anybody's going thirteen and four, right,

507
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Speaker 1: I think that. I'm not gonna say it's gettable for

508
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Speaker 1: the Texans necessarily, but I don't know if it's as

509
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Speaker 1: daunting as people think. The Jags should get better as

510
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Speaker 1: long as Lawrence gets better. But he still has to

511
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Speaker 1: improve as well as he did this year. He's still

512
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Speaker 1: gonna have to get better because the last two games

513
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Speaker 1: he didn't play as well as he wanted to. But

514
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Speaker 1: he played well enough to win a division. And uh,

515
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Speaker 1: that that's that's a that's a big, big punch in

516
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Speaker 1: your ticket, so to speak, on your way to a career. Um.

517
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Speaker 1: And if you look at it, it really spells out

518
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Speaker 1: what we've been talking about, or we talked about Earliers,

519
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,959
Speaker 1: who's got the better quarterback in the division. Well, it

520
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: didn't take long for Trevor Lawrence to become just that.

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Speaker 1: In Indianapolis. You know, they've they've gone vetteran veteran in

522
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Speaker 1: the last few years and that hasn't worked. I think

523
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Speaker 1: it's time for them to put you know, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: have a high pick, it's it's probably time for him

525
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Speaker 1: to draft one and developed long term. So I think,

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Speaker 1: really that's a team that could get get well in

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Speaker 1: a hurry, and I mean get well because a lot

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Speaker 1: of talent on that team didn't either didn't play much

529
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Speaker 1: this year, didn't play at all this year, or played

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Speaker 1: and got hurt and finish the season like Jonathan Taylor

531
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Speaker 1: for for instance, or Shack Leonard on the defensive side.

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Speaker 1: So they've got young, really really good players. I'm talking

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Speaker 1: all Pro type talent that didn't finish the year. So

534
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Speaker 1: that if there's a team that I think could bounce

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Speaker 1: back and win the division in a hurry just by

536
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Speaker 1: the addition of one player and a head coach, it

537
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Speaker 1: would probably be the Indianapolis Colts. And then you go

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Speaker 1: to Tennessee. I think that's a scrappy, physical team built

539
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Speaker 1: in its coaches mindset and they're they're a quarterback away

540
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Speaker 1: Tannehill's on that team. There's no way they lose what

541
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Speaker 1: is it, seven in a row to finish the year.

542
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna get one or two, maybe three

543
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Speaker 1: of those games, and they're in the playoffs. So that's

544
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Speaker 1: a team that's gonna add some pieces, especially defensively, and

545
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Speaker 1: then maybe a receiver here and there. But that's another

546
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Speaker 1: team that is a quarterback away and ready to go.

547
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Speaker 1: And they don't have to hire a head coach. I

548
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 1: think they've got a good one, a good solid one

549
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: that has built it the way he wants to build it.

550
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,719
Speaker 1: They've just got to figure out a way to stay healthy.

551
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: And when they have Tannehill or whoever the quarterback is,

552
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: that's a dangerous team as well. So you're talking three teams.

553
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Speaker 1: One that's young and up and coming with a ton

554
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: of talent, that already won the division this year, and

555
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Speaker 1: he got two others that are very very talented that

556
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Speaker 1: are maybe a quarterback away from competing for the division

557
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: as well. All right, Trey, you got three AFC playoff

558
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Speaker 1: wildcard games coming up this weekend. You got Josh Allen

559
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Speaker 1: taking onto Dolphins, the Bills and Dolphins up in Buffalo.

560
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Speaker 1: Then you got herbo V Lawrence in Jacksonville, and then

561
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Speaker 1: you got potentially Lamar against Joe Burrow in the Bengals,

562
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Speaker 1: which one of those three games is the most intriguing

563
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: from just the quarterback matchup itself for me personally, has

564
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Speaker 1: to be Cincinnati in Baltimore and you're talking two phenomenal players.

565
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Speaker 1: And that's provided that Lamar is healthy enough to go,

566
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Speaker 1: and he can give you a hundred percent, but you know,

567
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: eighty five percent of Lamar is going to be trouble

568
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: for any team that they play. But the Ravens just

569
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: haven't been. They've got a good record and they've won

570
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: games this year, but they just have They've been so

571
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: up and down. It's like a roller coaster season for them.

572
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: And then this happens to Lamar, and then all season long,

573
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: hanging over the Ravens were Lamar's contract, and you know

574
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: there's a lot there that that has to do with

575
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: you know, this is how the season went for them.

576
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Speaker 1: You want to make that position happy so that he

577
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Speaker 1: is just worry free. He's got enough to worry about

578
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: from week to week, which you certainly don't want him

579
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Speaker 1: ticked off about a contract. And so I think that's

580
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Speaker 1: the most intriguing game from me, is Cincinnat can Baltimore

581
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: rally and be Baltimore or can Cincinnati be as dominant

582
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Speaker 1: as they were last year get to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Dre Max dug An, NFL quarterback yay Or nay go. Yes, Yes,

584
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Speaker 1: I love his toughness. I love everything physically. You know

585
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: he's not gonna measure up to Trevor Lawrence. But there

586
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Speaker 1: you're talking about a generational player in Trevor Trevor Lawrence.

587
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Speaker 1: But if you want a guy who's gonna compete, he

588
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: can throw it. Uh, he is, he can will his

589
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: team to win. He's got grit. That's the second guy

590
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Speaker 1: that you know. I've told you guys, if I'm the

591
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: Texans and I I have the decision in the keys

592
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: to draft, I'm gonna draft two of them. He may

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Speaker 1: be the second one that I draft because of the toughness,

594
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,239
Speaker 1: because he's gonna compete, because he's gonna push the other guy. Uh,

595
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: he's used to being in that seat of being the underdog.

596
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: And just watch him develop and let's see what he becomes.

597
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: But that would be the second quarterback on the roster

598
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: that I would think I would try to get Wait,

599
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: are you guys taking your victory lap on Trevor Lawrence?

600
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Speaker 1: Generational player? Yet? Are you really think we have to

601
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: you haven't noticed that? I mean he was when he

602
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: was drafted. There's one conversation that, right, but there's no

603
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: victory lap allowed to be taken yet. All right, he

604
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: won a division in his second years. That game in

605
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: the bag, the Ravens had that game in that bag

606
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: and Josh Jobs, I'm not gonna blame it on him.

607
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: They called a horrible play the Titans did, I say,

608
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Speaker 1: the Ravens. That's how upset I am about this duet

609
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: him from three and seven to nine and eight. No,

610
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: I agree, Look, he had a great year, but you

611
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: know what ye moment of truth, baby, He's got to

612
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: get better at that because that game, that game on

613
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: Saturday night, the Titans had the lead. Remember remember Sean

614
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: in the wildcard playoff round the first time he played

615
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: in that game? Horrible? He was awful. Right, So I'm

616
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: gonna get out looking now, Well there's that, But I

617
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: know this, there will come a time. There will come

618
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: a time in a game against Jacksonville where we get

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Speaker 1: to a break and I'm gonna say Drey. Hit him, Yeah,

620
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: hit him because that will knock some sense into him

621
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Speaker 1: to the fact that Trevor is that guy. Trevior, we

622
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: knew it in twenty twenty one. He was that guy

623
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Speaker 1: and then people try to shoot holes all he was like,

624
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: he doesn't like football. He's you know, he's Sunshine from

625
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: remember the time he does like Sunshine was good. He's good.

626
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: Trevor's good. No, I'm not good. I'm not denying that.

627
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: I'm not denying that, but I'm I don't know if

628
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: he's Andrew Luck Peyton Manning good. I don't know if

629
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Speaker 1: he's that good. I told you about that list. I

630
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: told you about the list of most of the highest

631
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: rated players coming out of high school going into college. Uh,

632
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: he's one of them. And go back and look at

633
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: one of the most highly players from college to the NFL.

634
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: He's one of So you're the last one to get

635
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: on this bus. I'm just saying you got to pay

636
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: your fare sometime soon. And they didn't do. We're just

637
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: gonna lock him off the bus. I thought Dobs did.

638
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: I thought dob did pretty well the other night. Considering everything,

639
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: do Dobbs played absolutely What Dobbs has no reason to

640
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: hang his head. He is in a situation that is

641
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: almost impossible. Yeah, he almost pulled it off. And I've

642
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: been you guys have heard me. I've been raving about

643
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: Dobbs forever U and he just needed an opportunity. And

644
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: finally thirty one other teams are gonna see it. Whether

645
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: I think the Steelers knew it just they just ran

646
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: out of room in their quarterback room. But Dobbs is outstanding.

647
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: He is super smart, so he's gonna pick up whatever

648
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: it is that you put in. He's very athletic. He

649
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: can run, he did that at Tennessee, and he's got

650
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: a big arm. He just needs a spot in which

651
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: somebody's going to give him a chance. He is the

652
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: next GENO Smith. So to speaking in mind that, I

653
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: like that Drake quick thought on tonight's game. Oh boy, um,

654
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: I like what Tennessee. If Tennessee can hold up in

655
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: the trenches, this is just the game that boy, We're

656
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: all over TCU. Yes. Uh. If they can hold up

657
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: in the trenches, then Georgia it's it's not a game

658
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: or a matchup that Georgia likes. They can slow Georgia

659
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: down from running the ball and they did with that

660
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 1: three three three three five. Look, they did it against Michigan.

661
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: Can they do it again this week? They're going to score.

662
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: And it's not a game that that Georgia likes because

663
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna be spread out. They want to play you

664
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: in the phone booth where they know where the tight

665
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: ends lining up and based on formations you do this. Well,

666
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 1: that's not Tennessee offensively, and it's gonna have Georgia guessing,

667
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: especially early. So look for a tennise TCU to get

668
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: an early lead and then Georgia to maybe fight back

669
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: and make it a game in the second half. It'll

670
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: be close, I think once we get to the fourth quarter.

671
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: But can't see you hang on? Is will be the question. Drey,

672
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: thanks for the visit. We appreciate the Monday morning visits

673
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: all season long. We'll catch up soon. Yeah, man, I'm

674
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: gonna miss him, but hey, it'll be back before we

675
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 1: know it and we'll be talking about the twenty twenty

676
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: three Texans. Yeah. I know I can pick up the

677
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: phone and text or call Dre anytime, but three of

678
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: us have such a good time on broadcast or any games.

679
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: We also have such a great time talking amongst the

680
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: three of us in the radio, and it's more a

681
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: discussion than his interview. And it's just always fun with

682
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: those three, the three of us for sure. All right,

683
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Speaker 1: coming up next, Specier Tillman. He's played this game. He's

684
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: been through all kinds of situations when he was the Oilers,

685
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, He's seen it all. We'll get

686
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: his thoughts about Sunday, We'll get his thoughts about the future.

687
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: We'll do that with Spencer Tillman next right here on

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access Chicksons Radio continues in a moment checks Radio.

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Speaker 1: He's back, Yes, sir, welcome back to a money edition

690
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Speaker 1: of Texas All Access. I'm your host, John Harris, Fiplano,

691
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 1: sideline reporter. It's time to dive in with our good

692
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: pal Spencer Tillman. It's robably nobody I like talking to

693
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: in situations like these, where there's changed, there's you know,

694
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: there's some shape shifting, if you will, of the organization.

695
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 1: I'd love to get Spencer's thoughts on them. I think

696
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: he does it so eloquently, telling us what he thinks,

697
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: what he's been through and sharing that experience with us.

698
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: And he does it now. But we started talking about

699
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: the game on Sunday, Spencer, I gotta start with you

700
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: right there. You played this game and we talked about

701
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: this with Andrea, and I think it's important to address

702
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: the feeling of the players and coaches involved in a contest.

703
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: You don't ask them to lose a game. They're trying

704
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: to win a game. And they won the game yesterday,

705
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: and I get the disappointment of not having the number

706
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 1: one pick. Believe me, I totally understand that. But at

707
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: the same time, I understand where the players are coming from.

708
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: They're trying their best to win. For I do believe

709
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: that you nailed it. I mean, when your season is

710
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: reduced to a series of one game seasons, I think

711
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: it matters more because you have more on the line

712
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: each time you step out on the football field. You're

713
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: not worried about playoffs, scenarios and things of that nature.

714
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: You're literally worried about utility. This is survival, right. You

715
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: don't know where you're going to be. And so that

716
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: combined with the other events that happened earlier in the

717
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: week with the hamlet situation in Buffalo, you know that

718
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 1: created an environment, whether it was a sense of finality, right,

719
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 1: And I think that was part of it. It's it's

720
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 1: extension of some of the same things that the Texans

721
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: were thinking about the finality of obviously loving being let

722
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 1: go and all of that just created one of those

723
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: situations and scenarios where you step on the field knowing

724
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: that this could be the last time you do what

725
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: you do here or ever, and so that to me,

726
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: anything that can induce that sense of reality is a

727
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: good thing for the game. Now, you don't want to

728
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: stay in that state all the time because it gets

729
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: stressful to the point where you can't really function. But man,

730
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, there's something about sports that brings out

731
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: the best of us. And there was no question about

732
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: what this team was aiming at. It wasn't about drafts,

733
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 1: status and position and all of that. Note. It was

734
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: about getting that victory, improving my personal status, the team's status,

735
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: and doing the best that we possibly can and send

736
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: this coach out of here, although they didn't know it

737
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: at the time. On a winning note, Spencer I asked

738
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: this question Marking and Andre earlier. When you look at

739
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: the fact they've got cap space, they've got a bunch

740
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: of draft picks, especially this year, and then they'll have

741
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: more in the future too. And you look at some

742
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: of the pieces of peace, piece Pierce Petree, etc. How

743
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: do you look at this job as a head coach

744
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 1: compared to what it was the last couple of years

745
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: or maybe even a few years before that. What do

746
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: you what do you see with all of that taking

747
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: all that into account, how this job looks to a

748
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: potential head coaching candidate. Well, it depending on what kind

749
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: of visionary you are, if you can see what's possible.

750
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: And I'm just being honest with you, I'm not trying

751
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 1: to play agent or anything like that, guys, But because

752
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: of the context that a coach would come in here

753
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: a say, for example, of your same sitution with the Eagles,

754
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: he did a wonderful job with Justin Herbert Jalen Hurts.

755
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: If I'm coming in here, the first thing I'm gonna

756
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: do is say, hey, look, it's not about race, not

757
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: about any of that stuff. We know that the last

758
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: two coaches that have been here had short runs. I

759
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: gotta have some assurance that I'm gonna get more years

760
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 1: in this deal. So to answer your question by extension, John,

761
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: that's part of the equation, right, you've got the cap space,

762
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: you got a couple of nuts you gotta crack and

763
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: figure out. You know, you got an eighteen million dollar

764
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: bullet you're looking at and Brandon Cooks, what are you

765
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: gonna do there? Will you have a number one receiver?

766
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: You know, I know you've got BG coming back perhaps,

767
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: but we don't know what his health status will be.

768
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: You can't bank on that. You've got some pieces. Even

769
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: if you do get that quarterback that you think is

770
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: gonna be your franchise guy, I got news for you, guys.

771
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: There's no historical record, not even more recently with Trevor Lawrence,

772
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: where you had a guy coming into here that's gonna

773
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: nail that first year. I mean Peyton Manning struggling eight,

774
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman, if you want to go back to old school,

775
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: all of those guys have a history of struggling in

776
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: that first year. So if you're thinking it's gonna turn

777
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: and be a panacea of with that new position, whether

778
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: it's one or two, it's not gonna happen. It's gonna

779
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 1: take a while to adjust. So if I'm a coach

780
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: coming in and I'm looking at this, I'm on tiptoes

781
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: of anticipation. Why I got money, I've got an opportunity

782
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: and if I've got a willingness as a young guy

783
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: to come in here and give me some creativities, some latitude. Man,

784
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: the sky's the limit of what you could possibly do.

785
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: You've got a great infrastructure to work with to have

786
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: great success down the road. Spencer, offensive minded or defensive

787
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: minded head coach? Do you not care? Do you have

788
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: any names in mind for potential candidates that you'd be

789
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: interested in. Well, I just mentioned Shane Station. I think

790
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: that he to me because of his pedigree. What he

791
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: did with Jalen Hurts this year. We know that the

792
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: quarterbacks of the future and the current times have a

793
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: degree of mobility that is beyond what we historically have

794
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: viewed is a classic stand in the pocket. Well, he's

795
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: shown that he's been able to nurture Jalen Hurts. Right,

796
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 1: justin Herbert, there's another guy who had a chance to

797
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: I did like nine games of his over the last

798
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: for three years that he was in Oregon. When you

799
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: start to look at those guys like that, if that

800
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 1: ilk and you have consistent success, that's what a true

801
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: coach is. A true coach can come in and coach

802
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 1: you got. No matter what it is that he brings

803
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: as a skill set, as long as he's got the

804
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: suite of tools that are requisite for the position, and

805
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: you can come in and coach him up. That tells

806
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: me something about who you are. And you're not gonna

807
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: be shoehorned into doing something with someone who has a

808
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: suite of skills that don't align with your pedigree or

809
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: the way you raise. And so I think I think

810
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 1: the chain has that he fits that. Bill. I don't

811
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: think Jonathan Gannon that their Eagles also their defensive coordinator.

812
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: I don't think you go defense. I really don't. I

813
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: think we're at the point now, guys where you accept

814
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: to have three hundred plus yards of total offense. We

815
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: see that at the college level, and I remember guys

816
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: used to just be scratching themselves, just just upset at

817
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: the fact that you gave up x summer yards. Well

818
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: in the spread error, Man, you have to readefine what

819
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: constitutes good defense. And I think the NFL, because it

820
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: has adopted those bread concepts, has to make that adjustment

821
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: of well as well, what constitutes good defense. These days,

822
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna give up some great plays I mean, Ohio

823
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: State's playing for the national championship one year and then

824
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: they bring in another guy who gave up nearly three

825
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: hundred yards of a game and said, yet they made it.

826
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: That happens, guys, it's just the way that it is.

827
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: It's the error that we're in. So if we can

828
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: make that shift, whoever comes in here, it's going to

829
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: be an odd to me. Needs to be an offensive

830
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: minded guy. Bring a great defensive mind with you, but

831
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: you have to have the assurance that you're not going

832
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: to expect me to shut down teams in this era

833
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: that we're in. Right now. The National Football League National

834
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: Championship is tonight sptsor So I'm gonna ask you a question.

835
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring Texans in the game into focus. Either

836
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: Stetson Bennett or Max Duggan is the starting quarterback for

837
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 1: the Texans in twenty twenty three. Which one you're taking

838
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: Max and Duggan? And again, it's not because he has

839
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: a sweet of skills that would fit the app forementioned

840
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: scheme that I just mentioned. Because he's a different cat man.

841
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: He's he's a physical, tough guys, He's got great jets

842
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: unbelievable speed, believe it or not, because a lot of

843
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: people don't think he has speed. The guys's got tracks

844
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 1: type speed. He is that good and he's that big.

845
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: I had him three times this year. And the thing

846
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: I like about the guy he's integrated his passion within

847
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: the scheme. And here's the theme they're benefiting from. Not

848
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: just Lincoln Riley's brother that's on the staff, Sunny Come

849
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: be other guys that are still on that staff. They

850
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 1: go deep as far as their IP is concerned. If

851
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 1: they that intellectual capital on that coaching staff is second

852
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: to none in this nation. If you look at the

853
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 1: arc of their success in the third and fourth quarters,

854
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: they do a massiful job of coming back and that

855
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: comes as a result of the aggregated talents that those

856
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: coaches have. You can see them. They remind me of

857
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: the old forty ninety teams I was on. We had

858
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: more com from behind Vickers than anybody in the issue

859
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: of the game because we were good at this earning

860
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: what happened in the first half and exploiting it in

861
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: the second half. You can't do that without great coaches,

862
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: and that's what Max Zuggans has benefited from. So I'm

863
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: looking at it from the standpoint of what he's been

864
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: exposed to, and he's going to be a benefactor of that.

865
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: He can convert that at the next level. I could

866
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: go to war with him on Sundays Spencer, do you

867
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: have a Super Bowl pick? We won't hold you to it,

868
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: except we're putting money on the line, just getting we

869
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: won't hold you to it. What are you thinking? You know,

870
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: I wouldn't bet against the Buffalo Bills. And I'm gonna

871
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: tell you, guys, here's why Buffalo Bills. Once you get

872
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 1: a narrative, there is nothing more compellity than a person

873
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: with the cause. And again we all benefited and we're

874
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: forced to deal with the reality of what mister Hamblin

875
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: situation was. I was just talking to some of our folks,

876
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: your methodist, maybe fifteen minutes ago, about the fact that

877
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty thousand people die every year from

878
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: cardiac events. But what was different about the football incident

879
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: that happened earlier this week was that it allowed that

880
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: casual fans that margin fans probably see most athletes is overpaid,

881
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: spoil and maybe not deserving. It brought them into the

882
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: realm of the common man. So everybody on this in

883
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: your listening audience has know someone who's had a cardiac

884
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 1: of debt. So all of a sudden, that player becomes human.

885
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: So now they begin to touch a nerve and the

886
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: nation becomes ripped by it, indeed the world by extension.

887
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: When you have that kind of power and it's concentrated

888
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: in the context of a team, let me tell you,

889
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: I'm getting excited right now, at fifty eight years of age,

890
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: I feel like I can go het somebody and play

891
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: a game. I'm telling you. That's how I'm good for

892
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: a series. Right now, Guys, I'm good for a series.

893
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: But if you've kind a narrative like that, I would

894
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: not bet against the Buffalo Bills good for a series.

895
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: Where were you when we needed you earlier this year?

896
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: You would have dove over from the three against Dallas

897
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: for a touchdown, Spencer Jeus, thanks a lot for the

898
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: visits all season long. Spencer, We appreciate bad guys. Take care. Now.

899
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 1: If you wonder why I mentioned to Spencer diving over

900
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: from the top, here's what I want you to do.

901
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: I want you to go to YouTube. I want you

902
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: to put in Spencer Tillman diving touchdown Oklahoma and see

903
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: what pops up, and then you'll see what I'm talking about.

904
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: Spencer is one of the great touchdowns and coultural history

905
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: when he essentially catapulted from the five yard line and

906
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: dove into the end zone on a touchdown run. It's

907
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: one of the sickest things you'll see all day. So

908
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: go check that out. I would imagine that happens. I

909
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: don't have my computer in front of me, so I

910
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: don't know exactly, but I think if you put in

911
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: Spencer him and diving touchdown Oklahoma into your YouTube's you're

912
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,919
Speaker 1: gonna see one of the great touchdowns of all time.

913
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: When we get back, let's wrap up Week eighteen, look

914
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: ahead to the playoffs, and do all that right here

915
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: on Texans All Access. Let's go. Texans All Access continues

916
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: in a moment, back to the show they keeps you

917
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 1: plugged in with the Houston Texans. We got one file

918
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: segment the season actually right here on Texans All Access.

919
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 1: We'll go into off season six to seven pm every

920
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: single night mode the Monday after the Super Bowl, so

921
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 1: we will have podcasts, will have all kinds of content.

922
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: I'm going to the Senior Bowl, and I think it's

923
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: the first the last day or so of January on

924
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: into the first few days of February, so I'll have

925
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: Harris hits from there. I have all kinds of observations

926
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: from the Senior Bowl. Obviously, you want to check Football

927
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: Takeover dot Com. That's also my site talking draft, so

928
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 1: I'll be talking draft at Houston Texas dot com all

929
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: year long, talking at my site, So definitely check that out. Now.

930
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: One thing that Mark and I really didn't talk about

931
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: this morning or a lot with what was going on

932
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: this evening, it's what happened yesterday in Week eighteen, not

933
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: including the Texans, not including the Texans, there was a

934
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 1: lot of stuff going on. It started Saturday night. No, well, wait,

935
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 1: hold on, I gotta give my music rolling one final

936
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: time this year. There it is, and let's go. It

937
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 1: started with the AFC South Championship game as the Jaguars

938
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: got a sack from Rayshon Jenkins a scooping score from

939
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. The Jags or your AFC South champions twenty

940
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: to sixteen Trevor Lawrence not a great night, not a

941
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: great night. Did throw for two hundred twelve yards a

942
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: touchdown and did it turned it over Josh Dobbs. I

943
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: thought in the last two games against Dallas to Jacksonville,

944
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: he held up pretty well and if they've got a

945
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: better plan of attack in the final few minutes, maybe

946
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: that game goes the other way. But congratulations to the

947
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars for that win. And by the way, Titans

948
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: off its coordinator Todd Downing fired amongst probably three or

949
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: four different coaches, including former Texans secondary coach Anthony Midgett.

950
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: He is fired today. Keith carry the offensive line coach,

951
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: and Keith down or Todd Downing off its coordinator for

952
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: the Titans fired. So Jags moved to nine and eight.

953
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: They'll play the Los Angeles Chargers in the playoffs. The

954
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: Chiefs took out the Raiders thirty one thirteen as the

955
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: Chiefs of the number one seed in AFC. The Falcons

956
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: beat the Bucks thirty to seventeen. The Bills, my goodness,

957
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: niem Hines two kickoff turns as they honored the first responders,

958
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 1: the medical team, and the train staff from the Buffalo Bills.

959
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: That was a unbelievable scene. If you haven't seen that,

960
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: go check it out. They knocked the Patriots out of

961
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Bills are number two seed. They will play

962
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins next week thirty five twenty three. Bills

963
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: get the win. The Vikings beat the Bears. Vikings the

964
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: two seed over in the NFC. The Bengals beat the Ravens,

965
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: they will turn right around and go back to Cincinnati

966
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: to take on the Ravens. As the Bengals ended up

967
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: as the three seed right now, well, I guess right

968
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: now they are a three seeds, so they'll play the

969
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: Ravens at home next week twenty seven to sixteen. As

970
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: they knock off the Ravens in Baltimore. Texans beat the

971
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: Colts thirty two thirty one. You know, the Dolphins winning

972
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: eleven to six over the Jets. Not pretty. Dolphins with

973
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: that win and the Patriots loss, got into the playoffs.

974
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 1: Panthers beat the Saints. They didn't help us out. The

975
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,720
Speaker 1: Saints could have moved down below us, but that didn't happen.

976
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: In the draft with Cleveland's picks. Speaking of Clevelan, Cleveland

977
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: lost twenty eight to fourteen to the Steelers, but the

978
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: Steelers knocked out of the playoffs because of the Dolphins win.

979
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: Brown struggled with the Shawn Watson back, they finished seven

980
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: to ten. That Browns team would be better, but a

981
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: lot of drama around the brown team, Jadevian Colonie, all

982
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Broncos beat the Chargers. Good on

983
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. The Eagles beat the Giants. Giants played Davis Webb,

984
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: but the Eagles got to win. The Eagles are the

985
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: one seed in the NFC. The forty nine Ers look

986
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: scary thirty eight thirteen and JJ Watts last game, he

987
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: got a sack, but the Niners get to win thirty

988
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: eight to thirteen. Dominated that game. The forty nine Ers

989
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 1: are the two seed and they will take on the Seahawks.

990
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: You beat the Rams in overtime and the Seahawks game

991
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 1: because the Lions beat the Packers twenty to sixteen. My goodness,

992
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: what a weekend it was, and what a season it's been.

993
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: Better times ahead for this Texas team. And a big

994
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: thanks to you for listening all season long. The support

995
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: does not go unnoticed. We thank you so much. We

996
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: thank Mark, Andre Spencer, John McClain, everybody back at six ten,

997
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: everybody in this organization. We will see you after the

998
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,760
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Thank you so much again and as always,

999
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: go Texans. This is Texans Radio on Sports Radio six

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Speaker 1: ten