1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:01,040 Speaker 1: What's happened? Everybody? 2 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:05,279 Speaker 2: Welcome into a wet Wednesday edition of Texans All Access. 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 3: John Harris alongside Mark Vandermier. Hopefully you are dry. 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 2: Made it through the storms the early afternoon, morning and afternoon. 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: It was brutal. 6 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: I don't know what you call these direct sho's or 7 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 2: just bad thunderstorms. 8 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 3: I don't know what they're called, but they are brutal. 9 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: My wife and daughter flew in from LA and they're 10 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: still heads, still spinning from everything they have seen the 11 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: last couple of days. 12 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 3: They're like, this is not the Houston that we left. 13 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. 14 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question right off the bat, 15 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 4: Johnny Direct Show. I don't even know what I got 16 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 4: to tell you. I don't think I've ever heard of 17 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 4: that yel this year me? 18 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 2: So? 19 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 4: Am I crazy? That's not I should be ashamed about this. 20 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 4: I'd never heard of it. Do I have Direct Show shame? 21 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: Okay? 22 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: Apparently it's called dray sho is a widespread, long lived 23 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: wind storm that is associated with a band of rapidly 24 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: moving thunderstorms. 25 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: Showers or thunderstorms. 26 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: Well, I had never heard of it, never if I 27 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: I just never missed it. 28 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 4: It blew by me. But what was the Tax Day flood? 29 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 4: And what was the Memorial Day storm? Those two took 30 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 4: place a few years ago. They weren't we're getting faster 31 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 4: ones though. Now they come in for a half hour 32 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 4: recavoc leave. 33 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: Yes, they're brutal, it's not crazy. I remember when I 34 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 2: was in high school. You could time your clock to 35 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,919 Speaker 2: the two thirty or three o'clock thundershow just thundershower, just shower, 36 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: you're gonna get It's nice. 37 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: You get that. That's Florida style. 38 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you get the humidity ramp up, you get that storm. 39 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 2: It would cool everything off. You'd go back out for 40 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: the second day of two days. 41 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: It was great. 42 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: But you could tie. You could in the summer, you 43 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 3: could time it. 44 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: To the minute. 45 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: Okay, here comes and then it would get sunny after 46 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 2: that and it would be great. Uh, these things are 47 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: hitting almost every day and they are ruthless. We were 48 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: out of practice practice starting a nine to forty five, 49 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: so we got out there. They had the lights on. 50 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: It felt like a night practice. It was wild all right. 51 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 4: First of all, I was about fifteen minutes late because 52 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 4: they were just stretching. When I can watch the whole practice. 53 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 4: You know my routine. You don't need to see stretching. 54 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 4: I want to see some action, and that's what we 55 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 4: got to see the last couple of days. Anyway, i 56 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 4: walk out there, and as I walk toward the door, 57 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 4: I'm thinking it's dark out because here in the NRG Stadium, 58 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 4: in our offices and studios and stuff, it's like being 59 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 4: in a cave. You just don't know what it's doing outside, 60 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 4: and it's dark out. I go out there, the lights 61 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 4: are on, like you said, the scoreboards up. It does 62 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 4: look like a night practice. It really does. And then boo, 63 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 4: the horns go off. Everybody goes inside because of lightning warnings. 64 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 4: But why are all of these storms they approach and 65 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 4: not only is it thunderstorm's coming, it's dark out? 66 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: Yes, Why is it so dark where? 67 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 4: It just seems like night We're just getting a lot 68 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 4: of that stuff lately. 69 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: And I'm not one of. 70 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 4: These conspiracy theorists. Oh they're messing with the ionization of 71 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 4: whatever weather and causing No, I don't think that's happening. 72 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: But it feels like it. 73 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been just brutal storms. I mean he rated storms, 74 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: and typically we see storms that are a five or 75 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 2: a six, like. 76 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: Okay, oh that was a good thunderstorm. That's good. 77 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 3: A lot of lightning, thunders loud. 78 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: These things are coming in with wind that you just 79 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: can't even comprehend. 80 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: It's nuts. 81 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 4: I got to tell you the professional football players that 82 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 4: we have here and because that's what they are and 83 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 4: they should be this way, they're pros. The speed with 84 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 4: which they went into the practice bubble at the Houston 85 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 4: Methodist Training Center and bam got right to work in 86 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 4: an intense practice, a really good practice. I was impressed 87 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 4: with the let's not even break stride in the routine 88 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 4: of it all. 89 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: They might have lost thirty seconds. 90 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 4: They all went in the building and then bang, bang, bang, 91 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 4: And they have all the gear and equipment they need 92 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 4: in there. All the video stuff was in there already. 93 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 4: They just went right to it and it was a 94 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 4: good practice. And I was kind of chilly this morning 95 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 4: walk it out and in the bubble, I thought, this 96 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 4: is bizarro world. 97 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: Man, it's June. 98 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 4: But it's great and it was fun to see them 99 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 4: in their final day before the big break. 100 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: Really was and it was it's fun to watch, you know. 101 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: The offense. 102 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: We talked about it yesterday. The offense kind of had 103 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: a down day on Tuesday. Defense they got there. 104 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: Let's make it positive. The defense had a great. 105 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 4: Day of defense had a great day, and the offense 106 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 4: still had a moment or two. 107 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 2: They did it flipped on Wednesday, and it's the exact 108 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: same way you just said it. The offense really there 109 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: was there was intentionality. There's intention of what they were doing. 110 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: They got after it, hit a couple of deep balls, 111 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: won a Nico Collins that was just sweet. 112 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 4: C J. 113 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 2: Strout dropped in the bucket. But the defense had moments. Oh, 114 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 2: they did had some big time moments. People Henderson knocked 115 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: one away. Certain rookie dB knocked a few away. Oh 116 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: I think Will Anderson said he ended up being the 117 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 2: swarm player of the day. 118 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: Oh really yeah, the swarm player, yeah, Kamari Lassiter. Yeah. Well, 119 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: we're going to most people. 120 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 4: That are with interesting names that are going to make 121 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 4: a lot of plays this year. And Johnny, look, I 122 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 4: know that we do these shows, and you and I 123 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 4: have been doing these shows for over a decade, and 124 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 4: I've been talking about the textans since O two. People 125 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 4: who listen closely know that I tend not to hype 126 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 4: things up too much. I I'm more of the when 127 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 4: things are going bad, hey wait a minute, let's just 128 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 4: give it a minute. I'm that kind of guy for sure. 129 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 4: But I don't hype the team too much. I really 130 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 4: don't even going into big work. Big years are projected 131 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 4: to be big years. I'm not saying, oh, this is 132 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 4: gonna happen, that's gonna I don't do that. But I 133 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 4: will say this, this is a squad. 134 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: They've got talent, man. 135 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 4: I mean I hesitate to use the word loaded because 136 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 4: it's you know, the media here, this is sports media. 137 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:46,239 Speaker 4: This is where we need to analyze the situation, present 138 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 4: all the facts. But the fact is they're pretty freaking 139 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 4: loaded at a lot of spots, at a lot, not 140 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 4: every single spot, but at a lot of spots on 141 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 4: this roster. 142 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: They're pretty loaded. 143 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 4: And it's gonna be fun to watch, and they've got 144 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 4: to stay healthy then we can see the full potential 145 00:05:59,279 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 4: of this thing. 146 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 3: Okay, So that leads me to this. 147 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 2: I'm watching practice and I would call this if I 148 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 2: if I had an award, I feel like I would 149 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 2: call this the Desmond King Award. But I asked you 150 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: a question, and I said, outside of the guys that 151 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: you believe. 152 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: Are going to be starters. 153 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's probably depending on how you go personnel 154 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: groups and all that kind of stuff. It's probably twenty 155 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 2: four to twenty five guys on both sides of the ball. 156 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 2: I said to you, outside of those guys that you're 157 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: pretty sure are going to be starters, which guys on 158 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: this ninety man roster do you absolutely, without question have 159 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 2: to have on the roster on the fifty three man 160 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 2: roster going forward? 161 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 4: Can I give you a player that a lot of 162 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 4: people think might not be here, people meaning outside of 163 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 4: the build. Yeah, because there's cap savings and everything. Absolutely, 164 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,679 Speaker 4: his position group happens to be loaded. It's wide receiver, 165 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 4: right receiver. They're pretty freaking loaded. We went over yesterday 166 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 4: of nine guys that you could name before you get 167 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 4: to players that might have played for this team two 168 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 4: three years ago. But we'll have a difficult time because 169 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 4: of all the talent here. But I am telling you 170 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 4: right now, Robert Woods has got to be on this 171 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 4: football team. I know they have talent for days at receiver, 172 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 4: and I know that they haven't seen the full potential 173 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 4: yet of John Metchi and Noah Brown had those monster 174 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 4: days and I'm not saying those guys can't be here, 175 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 4: but I'm saying Robert Woods has to be here. He 176 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 4: is where he's supposed to be. He's reliable for the quarterback, 177 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 4: he is a great leader. Robert Woods should be on 178 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 4: this football team. I'll campaign for him. 179 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 5: Now. 180 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: I might end up being wrong. 181 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 4: Who knows, but to me, Woods Bobby Trees is a 182 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 4: Houston Texan. 183 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think without question. 184 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: You know, I called this Desmond king Wood because I 185 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 2: watched Desmond and Desimon could do something different. 186 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: Thanks for your football team. 187 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: When you think about this, the years he's been here, 188 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 2: whether it's playing corner, whether it's playing nickel, whether it's 189 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: learning safety at some point, whether it's returning kicks. 190 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: You think they overthought it last year maybe or something 191 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: a little bit, maybe a little bit. 192 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 4: Who knows, because clearly the way they treat him now 193 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 4: treat him. I don't know how they think they treat him. Well, fine, 194 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 4: they feed him, they pay him. But my take is 195 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 4: that he comes back. He's invaluable. Yeah, and you saw 196 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 4: I'll always go back to the Titans game where he's 197 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 4: playing linebacker. Basically, he'll do anything for you for this 198 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 4: football team and he's such a good fit here. 199 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: He wasn't a fit in Pittsburgh. He's a fit here. 200 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: He belongs here, and I think about desmid King. 201 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: He comes back and he gets back and I can't 202 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: remember what week it was, week eleven, week twelve, whatever, 203 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: and he's up. 204 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: I think he was at that time. 205 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 2: They brought him back to the practice squad, so I 206 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: think at the time he's a practice squad call up. 207 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: Either way. 208 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 3: He played one game or one play in the loss 209 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 3: to Jacksonville. 210 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: One play. 211 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 3: Do you remember what it was? Tell me was to 212 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 3: play on a goal line. 213 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: Oh, and he makes the stop, makes the stop at 214 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 2: the goal line. He makes that one play before the 215 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: half before right before the half. Yeah, one play. He 216 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 2: played one play. There was that play. The next week 217 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: we played and you remember what happened in that game. 218 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: He's all over the place. He got a touchdown taken 219 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 2: away from him, but he's all over the place in 220 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 2: that particular game. Then we played I think Tennessee shortly thereafter, 221 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: maybe a game or two later, and he has that 222 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: game against Derek Henry and you're like, God, dang, we 223 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 2: can't do this thing without Desimond King. I kind of 224 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 2: feel like Desmond's in maybe that same position this year. 225 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 2: I don't know if he fully starts, but my god, 226 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: I've seen him do so many different things to help 227 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: this organization. I just feel like you gotta have a 228 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 2: guy like that, a grizzled vet, that kind of the 229 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: the answer to Robert Woods on the defensive side may 230 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 2: not start, but you know, hey, we need emergency corner. 231 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 3: Desimond King can do it. 232 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 2: We need emergency, We need a nickel go step back 233 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: into that role, Desmond. 234 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: He's in there. 235 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,599 Speaker 2: Hey, Desmond, we were short on safeties this week. You 236 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: MJ's down, Eric's banged up, Kaylin's been deal with an anklet. 237 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: Have you gotta have you learn safety man? 238 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 3: Okay, cool, he'll do those kind of things. 239 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 2: I feel like Robert's that same kind of guy today 240 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 2: at OTAs, you just kept seeing number two get open. 241 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 3: He just gets open on time he catch run go uh. 242 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 2: He said it the other day when we were talking 243 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 2: to We're talking to Bench Gronick. 244 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: He's like he. 245 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 2: Digs out safeties in the run game. He does all 246 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: the things you wanted to do. Robert Wood just got 247 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 2: to be on this team. 248 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: Okay. 249 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: Year twelve for Robert Woods would does not look like it. 250 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 2: So I know this question is gonna come up. Well, 251 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 2: you can't, you can't afford him. He makes a lot 252 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: of he makes a lot of money. Yay, but the 253 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 2: cap has already set. You're good, Yeah, you're good with 254 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: what it is, and the cap has gone up. So 255 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: I heard this on a podcast I was listening to. 256 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 2: They were talking about an offensive lineman staying with this 257 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: particular team. He's highly paid, but he's in a competition 258 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 2: battle and they're like, they kept him because. 259 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: The cap went up. Well, guess what, the cap went up. 260 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: Don't give away a valuable piece like Robert Woods. 261 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 4: Well, you're in his position right now where and look, 262 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 4: I don't know how they feel about this particular player 263 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 4: and the money and all that, but in general, you 264 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 4: need to make moves to win period. Point not where 265 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 4: I'm not saying blow out the cap. I'm saying it's 266 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 4: not the NBA, it's not Major League base there's no 267 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 4: cap in baseball, but you get one. My what I 268 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 4: mean about the NBA, I do you can't do that. 269 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 4: But the point is this, you have to do what 270 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 4: it takes to field your best football team, regardless of 271 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 4: those kinds of things. 272 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: I could save a few million here. 273 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 4: Look, I know it's a lot of money and you 274 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 4: can maybe do some other things with it, but they 275 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 4: got to do what's right for this team. If that's right, 276 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 4: do it and worry about the money later. 277 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: I think Robert Woods has got to be on this 278 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: roster in some way, shape or form, and he's gonna 279 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: make He's gonna make plays throughout this year where you're 280 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: gonna look at it and go, God, where we have 281 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 2: been with other guy. 282 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 3: I love Robert Woods and I hope he's. 283 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: You know, there's there's there's not each But I look 284 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: at OTAs and I'm like, dude's catching balls from CJ, 285 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 2: from Davis, from Tim Boyle in case Keenan. It doesn't 286 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 2: matter who's out there. He just gets himself open. It's 287 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 2: so fun. Okay, So on that list, we have Robert 288 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: Woods on that list. We're gonna put Desmond King because 289 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 2: the war is named after him. So I'm gonna ask 290 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 2: you this one. I'll ask you, is Daria Goombawalle on 291 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: your list? 292 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 4: I wrote him down in the running back room as 293 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 4: a player you want on this football right now. This 294 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 4: is prior to the preseason in training camp, Johnny. Because 295 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 4: during practice today and this is not a padded practice, 296 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 4: so we can't really tell what the running backs are doing. 297 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 4: But JJ Taylor, you kind of sold me on JJ 298 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 4: Taylor a little bit, or at least sold me on 299 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 4: I want to see what this guy can do. 300 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: I want to see what everybody could do. 301 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 4: But JJ Taylor is an interesting back that was not 302 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 4: here for training camp last year, so he did not 303 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 4: see him in Houston Texans preseason games or training camp, 304 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 4: padded practices or any padded practices because he got here 305 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 4: relatively late. Third year back from Arizona. He's got three 306 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 4: trunk legs. He's not tall, he's five six, one eighty five. 307 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 4: He's a bowling ball if that, if that, if that, 308 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 4: but he you could tell how spry he is out here. 309 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 4: Guy looks like he can make plays. He can catch 310 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 4: the ball. So you have players like that. We talked 311 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 4: about Jaard Jordan, who you drafted, but I still think 312 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 4: Dara with all he can do, including kicking field goals 313 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 4: and maybe kicking off. We had the interview last night. 314 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 4: We were kind of joking, but not about the prospect 315 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 4: of that happening because they talked about it publicly in 316 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 4: Kansas City. You never know what Frank Ross decides to do. 317 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 4: So Darry's got to be on this football team. 318 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. 319 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 2: I mean the number of things that he can do 320 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 2: and sometimes in this category. And you think about the 321 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 2: three guys that we mentioned thus far, Robert Woods, darigm 322 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 2: Pule and Desmond King. You think about what they're basically 323 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 2: paying forward. You think about just paying it forward. Those 324 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: guys are all guys that have just boatloads of experience, 325 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 2: but they share that experience with younger players, and they 326 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 2: share that leadership with younger players. And the guys we're 327 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: we're talking to war Jordan the other day. He mentioned 328 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: Darry like by name. You were talking about that running 329 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: back room. You mentioned how valuable Darry has been to 330 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 2: him as a young running back. So that's baked into 331 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 2: this sort of category. So I would imagine case Keenum 332 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 2: obviously is on your list as well as a quarterback. 333 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: He is. 334 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 4: He's on my list because I could say Davis Mills, 335 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 4: but I assume Davis Mills he's a different category. 336 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 1: They continue to develop. 337 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 4: Davis Mills, who has twenty five starts under his belt, 338 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 4: played a little bit and Mop up in the Cleveland 339 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 4: game last year. 340 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: Played well, Mills looks pretty good. Yeah, he's not a 341 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: couple of good weeks for sure. 342 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 4: Looks like Mills is firing the ball with a lot 343 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 4: of intentionality. As you might say, well, they all have 344 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 4: to have intentionality. 345 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: I intend that's a word. 346 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 3: They use a lot. The guys have used a lot. 347 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 3: I heard Demico talk about it. 348 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 4: But you don't want to second guess yourself. Demiko wants, 349 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 4: I think every position to play with that reckless, abandon 350 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 4: yet laser focus at the same time, but second nature. 351 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 4: Don't think, go know your job that well where you 352 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 4: can do that. And I think Mills is starting to 353 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 4: look like that as a quarterback. Yeah, and we'll see, 354 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 4: you know. I think it's inspirational too to watch CJ 355 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 4: and want to match wits with hips, you know, and look, 356 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 4: having Boil in the back end of that room is 357 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 4: also pushing people because he gets in there and he's 358 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 4: firing lasers. 359 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: He's got a Cannon's rocky. 360 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 4: When we talk about the strongest armed quarterbacks to ever 361 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 4: be in this franchise, mallet is won the lad one 362 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 4: is he one? 363 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: Well, Boyle's release is different. 364 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, it comes out pretty fast with Yeah, I think 365 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 4: it might come out for Ryan. 366 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 3: I mean, he's so tall, it'll wind up and it 367 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 3: will kind of wind up. 368 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, when that ball, I still go back to 369 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: we were getting ready the hard knocks, you're twenty fifteen. 370 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: I was down on the field of Superdome and getting 371 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: ready to play the Saints, and he was working on 372 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 2: some routes and throwing some things, and I just luckily 373 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 2: happened to turn back around and he was working a 374 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: route with one of the managers, and the managers slipped 375 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: and fell down. This ball is going I can't say 376 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 2: it's gotta be going eighty miles an hour. That thing 377 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 2: skips off the turf, and luckily I happened to look 378 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: back because he's thirty yards away, if not more. 379 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: And that thing skips off the turf. 380 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 2: And I'm telling you, I stuck up my hand and 381 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 2: got lucky and snagged it, and my hand. 382 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: Hurt for I don't know how long. 383 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 3: He was really he was really impressed by it. 384 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: He was like, oh, he thought. 385 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 3: I'm telling you that ball was smoking hot, smoking hot, 386 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 3: so alrip, big text. 387 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: Yeah to me in this building from what I've seen 388 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 2: for twenty fourteen, on. I don't think I've seen an 389 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 2: arm like that. I don't know I've seen an arm 390 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 2: like that anywhere. 391 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 4: I think Case is important though, in that quarterback room 392 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 4: for all the reasons. 393 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: He can still play. He looks good out there too. 394 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 4: He's making plays, he can still play, he's a leader, 395 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 4: he shoots funny videos. 396 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: It's all good. I want Case Keenum. It is good. Okay. 397 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 2: So I'm going to give you a name, you react 398 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: to it, and then you give me one potentially in 399 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 2: this position group, I'm gonna say Derek Barnett came in 400 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 2: here last year, what late November December time frame? 401 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that. 402 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: The two on the outside, Danil Hunter, Will Anderson spent 403 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 2: so much talk there at the podium on Wednesday. 404 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 3: They were fantastic, they were They're really really good. 405 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 2: Denico Autry went there, so there's been a lot to 406 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 2: talking about Deniko. They're amongst those three. Hey, those are 407 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 2: the three you're gonna rush. All I know is when 408 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 2: John Grenard and Will were banged up to finish last year, 409 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 2: Derek Barnett went on the field and I don't want 410 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: to say he took games over, but that dude made 411 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 2: plays when we needed him. In fact, I was watching 412 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 2: the playoff game a few days ago, and early in 413 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 2: that game when it's kind of going back and forth 414 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 2: after Brev's long touchdown run, catching touchdown run, the Browns 415 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 2: get back on the field, get the. 416 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 3: Third down, maybe moving the ball relatively well. 417 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 2: So at this point of the seventeen fourteen he goes 418 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 2: back to Flakley, goes back to pass who sacks him. 419 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 2: Derek Barnett, he came up with big plays at big 420 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 2: times and and he had his start, and then you 421 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 2: know when Will would go back out there, and you 422 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 2: know he came out and he would go in into 423 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 2: backup role, but Derek Barnett would go on in the field 424 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: and find a quarterback and hunt and to have you know, 425 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 2: those guys are gonna get banged up. You hope they don't, 426 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 2: but they're gonna get banged up at some point. They're 427 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 2: gonna need a rest at some point. And if you 428 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 2: could flip over the pass rush responsibilities to a guy 429 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 2: like Derek Barnett, I'm cool with that. 430 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 4: Your thoughts, well, he wasn't even a glint and our 431 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 4: eye for the first half of the season and training 432 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 4: camp and all of that. So I'm wondering those players 433 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 4: might be this year. You hope you don't need them 434 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 4: because injuries forced that situation. But to quote Bill O'Brien, 435 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 4: who once upon a time said, where would we be 436 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 4: without TJ. Yates in twenty fifteen? Where would you be 437 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 4: without Derek Barnett in the pass rush? So I'm not 438 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 4: saying you lose those games, but you might you might 439 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 4: lose a game or two that he played in, or 440 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 4: might not make as many plays and need to be 441 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 4: more dramatically successful at the end if he's not available 442 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 4: for you because Will was so banged up, Bernard was 443 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 4: so banged up. So I love Derek Barnett, But my 444 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 4: guy in the D line is Khalil Davis, who does 445 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 4: get some love. I think he gets media love, but 446 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 4: maybe not enough. And you and I talked with him 447 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 4: up close and personal the other day. You'll hear that 448 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 4: interview in the next weeks. In the next few weeks 449 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 4: here on Texans All Access. Look, Khalil Davis. He's one 450 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 4: of the few D linemen actually listed above three hundred pounds, 451 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 4: by the way, but he doesn't move like he's three hundred. 452 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 4: He moves like he's two eighty, very quick, quick, makes 453 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 4: plays from the defensive tackle position. You know you need 454 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 4: people you can count on there. You have a lot 455 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 4: of question marks there in that you have new players. 456 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 4: You know Deniko Autry has heard from today. I know 457 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 4: he can play outside inside. We talk about some of 458 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 4: the players fully, Fatacasi, we discussed him yesterday. Not that 459 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 4: you don't think those guys can play. You know they 460 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 4: can play, but they're new to the team. You know 461 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 4: that Khalil Davis is not new to the team. He 462 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 4: can make plays in this system. He'll be successful. You 463 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 4: need him in that room. 464 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:40,479 Speaker 1: So you just joined us. 465 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 2: We're discussing the players that may not be starters, but 466 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 2: you absolutely have to have them on this team. Robert Woods, 467 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 2: Desmond King, Dargonbwally Case, Keenum. 468 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 3: Derek Barnett, Khalil Davis. 469 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 2: As Mark just said, mark your next one of what 470 00:19:58,480 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 2: pick your position? 471 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: Group? O line, O line. Okay, I got one on 472 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: the old line too. 473 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 4: It's probably too obvious. I should probably go with somebody 474 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 4: who's not a draft pick. But he was not a 475 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 4: high draft pick from last year, and there would be 476 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 4: Jared Patterson. He's too valuable for you and at this 477 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 4: point he's a former starter. Well, he had to start 478 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 4: for you last year because you were so depleted at 479 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 4: center with Quessenberry going down in camp, and then Juice 480 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 4: is not available, and then you know the rest of 481 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 4: the story, and eventually Dieter had to start there for you. 482 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 4: But Patterson was good, and you told me Patterson and 483 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 4: correct me if I'm wrong. Juice a better guard prospect 484 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 4: than Patterson. But Patterson has thickened up a bit, and 485 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 4: you never know if he could play some guard for you. 486 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 4: I assume he would be available if you needed him to. 487 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 4: But the prospect of backup center and then some I 488 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 4: think that's important for Patterson. And you want to continue 489 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 4: to develop and nurture players that you drafted players in 490 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 4: your system. 491 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and talking to Jared the other day and just 492 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: seeing him up close, like, man, he's got bigger, he's 493 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 2: got ticker, and I think that's gonna end up helping him. 494 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: Just give him that position flex. So I agree with 495 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: Alvin Hoole Harley. Here's here's one kind of along those 496 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 2: same lines. It's a guy that when he was drafted 497 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 2: in the fourth round, you thought, Okay, we hope that 498 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: this guy never sees the field, But injuries have happened. 499 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 2: Injuries have happened to the two starting tackles over the years, 500 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 2: Titus Howard, Leimy Tunsel and Charlie Hack has had to 501 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 2: go in the lineup and has given them really good 502 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 2: snaps over the last four years. You gotta have a 503 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 2: swing tackle. You know, Blake Fisher was drafted and all that, 504 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 2: but you know what you're getting with Charlie. Heck, you know, 505 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: Charlie can go in there and either left or right tackle, 506 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 2: and you know he's gonna know what to do. 507 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: And look, Charlie will be the first. 508 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 2: One to tell you you know, he's not as athletically 509 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 2: gifted as Titus or Larim or whomever, but he gets 510 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 2: guys blocked and he's been doing it for four years 511 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 2: and he's had to play and start in every single 512 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 2: one of his four years. 513 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 4: Who's the sixth man in this Soul line room? All right, 514 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 4: regardless of position, is it him? It's probably him? It's 515 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 4: probably probably him. So to me, you got to go 516 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 4: deeper than that for this category. 517 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good that's a good point, because a 518 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 2: good point I think you hit on the next guy 519 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 2: that I would say that's Jared Patterson. 520 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: So if you had to go seven, Patterson's the next one, 521 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: I mean I would maybe. 522 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think Kendrick Green, Kenyan Green, trying 523 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 2: to pick between those two is gonna be the left guard. 524 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 3: I think that's I think that's gonna be pretty tough. 525 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 4: Because Kenyon, they've been moving him around a little bit, 526 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 4: not moving positions, but like what group he's out there with. 527 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 4: I think they're just trying to get him extra reps. Yeah, 528 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 4: we ever get him in certain arrangements because you don't 529 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 4: have Laramie out there, you don't have Titus out there, 530 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 4: So get him in there with different groups of people. 531 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 4: But they keep talking about his body, how it's changed 532 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 4: and everything, and so let's just continue to hope for 533 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 4: the best. 534 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 6: There. 535 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:45,719 Speaker 1: We got to see it in pads. 536 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 3: This is it. 537 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: We got to see it in pad. 538 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 4: I got to see him PA four or something or 539 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 4: three or four of training camp. 540 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: We'll see how they organize it. 541 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 4: Maybe they don't get at the pads as soon as 542 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 4: they usually do because they have that Hall of Fame game. 543 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: We'll find out. 544 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 2: See what your buddy, Aaron Glenn said. He was asked 545 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 2: about a second year defensive lineman and how much has 546 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 2: he progressed. He said, I don't know. He's running around 547 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: in underwear. Yeah, it's like that. That sounds like something 548 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 2: Aaron Glenn would say. Okay, I I have one more. Okay, 549 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 2: I don't want to. I don't want to. We talked 550 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 2: about this guy the other day and I dB, no, 551 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go linebacker. I'm going linebacker on this one. 552 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 2: And I don't know exactly how this is gonna go. 553 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: You can't pick him. He might start. I know where 554 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: you're going. 555 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 6: You know. 556 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: I was gonna say Jacob Phillips. 557 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know Phillip. Listen, that's the low hanging fruit here. 558 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 4: To me, Jacob Phillips and Bass could be a star. 559 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 4: I'll give you another one a linebacker. 560 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 1: I agree with me. You're gonna be like, yes, Nevill Hewett. 561 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 2: Oh, that was gonna be the guy can play. 562 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: He's the best. 563 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 2: Yes, he's awesome. He's one of the best special teams 564 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 2: guys we've had in this building. 565 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 4: At this point, I'm contractually obligated to mention again that 566 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 4: once upon a time he led the Jets and tackle. 567 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: That's right, for whatever that's worth. That's right. 568 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 4: But Neville Hewitt can help this football team and he 569 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 4: should be on it. 570 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Now the last one listening like. 571 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 3: You guys, you guys are killing you guys. 572 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 1: You don't know. 573 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 3: Your job is tough. 574 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: Your job is tough. NK, you made it down. 575 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 4: Feel free to decide for yourself. Do not be influenced 576 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 4: by Texans Radio. 577 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 2: The comments heard on Texans Radio, the opinions of Mark 578 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 2: and John and Mark and John only. 579 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: Were you still when Rick Smith was here? 580 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 4: I told Rick, you know, because he said, you guys 581 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 4: are writing articles with opinions and things. I said, yes, 582 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 4: but Rick, that matters, And I said, well, we'll put 583 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 4: a little a little disclaimer at the end of each article. 584 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: We did something like what you just said. 585 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 2: Definitely, obviously they definitely went at the end of Harris 586 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 2: Hits observations. 587 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: For sure. 588 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 2: These are the thoughts of John and John only, Uh 589 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 2: you got any more? 590 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 3: You got one more? 591 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 6: Uh? 592 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 4: dB this is kind of under the radar. Slash should 593 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 4: be on the team. I don't know if he's going 594 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 4: to make the team, but I am eager to see 595 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 4: Mike Ford out there in real action with the pads 596 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 4: and preseason games and what he can add to this team. 597 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 4: I think they like him and it's gonna be fun 598 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,719 Speaker 4: to watch him try to become a part of it. 599 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 2: I think from he knows his role special Team's part, 600 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 2: that he's got to take care of that, and then 601 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 2: if he's got to get on the field, he'll get 602 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 2: on the field. It's funny because I didn't bring this 603 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 2: up with him, but during the playoff game, I was 604 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 2: hanging out down by the Browns. I was hanging out 605 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: down on that edge of the field, which is just 606 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 2: down from our radio boost. So sometimes I have better 607 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 2: connection when i'm just down for you. So I'm kind 608 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 2: of watching man Obo Coronquo is talking trash and Mike 609 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 2: wasn't really talking trash, but I just kind of made 610 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 2: a note like okay, very excitable, lot of energy. 611 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 3: And then when he saw it with us, I was. 612 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 2: Like, all right, cool with the Browns, I'm like, oh no, 613 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 2: we'll show him, but he's gonna be a fun and interview. 614 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 2: We'll have our interview with Mike Ford Junior a little 615 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 2: bit later in the show. How about this A Houston resident, 616 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 2: A Houston resident before he even joined the Houston Texas 617 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 2: by choice, Yeah, by choice. 618 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 4: Could have lived anywhere any of those two people who 619 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 4: live here involuntarily. 620 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: And my point is not for the job. He chose 621 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: to have a place, all right. 622 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 2: We did not ask Mike Ford about Dracho's We did 623 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 2: not ask him that, but I did speak with your 624 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: Doherty on in the lab. That is all for you. 625 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 2: Next right here on Texans All Access, it's time to 626 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 2: go in the lab. Welcome back to another edition of 627 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: Texans All Access on this Wednesday evening. I hope you 628 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 2: all are doing great, hope we survived the storms from 629 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 2: earlier today and you're locked into Texans All Access with 630 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 2: me John Harris Football and I'll side the reporter and 631 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 2: my pal Drew Doherty going in the lab talking. 632 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 3: OTA's right here. 633 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 6: So what I want to talk about today is the 634 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 6: pass rush. Because we heard from presumably your three leading 635 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 6: sack artists for twenty twenty four. Now there could be 636 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 6: some surprises, or there could be a guy like Derek 637 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 6: Barnett who rises up but at the podium following Dimico 638 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 6: Ryans on Wednesday, the Texans trotted out Will Anderson, Junior, 639 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 6: Denico Autry, Danil Hunter, three pretty salty defensive linemen, and 640 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 6: I want to start with Will Anderson Jr. He got 641 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 6: pretty in depth about what he's worked on this offseason. 642 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 6: Somebody said, you know, what were your what did you 643 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 6: try to get better at? What did you do about 644 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 6: d dad? And he gave this answer. 645 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 5: Pass rush is so many different things, and you really 646 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 5: don't know like how to put it all in once 647 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 5: until you finally get like a chance to talk to 648 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 5: other pass rushers and Mouth Garrett and d'anil and working 649 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 5: on your ankle flex and working on your hips, all 650 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 5: those different things just to loosen you up to be 651 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 5: able to be more bandy around the edge. 652 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 7: So we had to open up more moves for you. 653 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 5: So for me, like that was my biggest thing. Is 654 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 5: like working with my ankle mobility, working in my hips, 655 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 5: arm strength, grip strength, all those things to like, those 656 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 5: are areas that I've really been focusing on in this ota. 657 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 5: I've had the privilege to, you know, learn from Danil 658 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 5: and see how he works and try to some of 659 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 5: the moves and stuff like that, and they're working because 660 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,239 Speaker 5: I've learned how to take care of my body, how 661 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 5: to do those things to help me turn the corner, 662 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 5: how to help me get off blocks, how to help 663 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 5: me escape, how to use a long gom and things 664 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 5: like that. 665 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 6: Which is pretty detailed. John that that's pretty cool stuff 666 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 6: to hear from number fifty one. I'm excited because you've 667 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 6: got Autrey in there, and where you get to Autrey 668 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 6: in just a moment, You've got Danil Hunter, who is 669 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 6: an absolute forced to be reckoned with and has been 670 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 6: so for a long time now in the NFL. But 671 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 6: when you hear Anderson described in describing such details some 672 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 6: of that stuff he's talking about ankle flextion, I mean, 673 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 6: it's got to get you pretty excited. Because he was 674 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 6: a monster last year. He was defensive Rookie of the Year, 675 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 6: and you presume he's going to get better, and then 676 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 6: you factor in what you just heard or saw there 677 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,479 Speaker 6: with Anderson describing all those things, I'm pretty pumped. Are 678 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 6: you pumped on? 679 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 680 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 2: I think about a lot of times try and relate, 681 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 2: and it's hard to but you just try and relate 682 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 2: your first year doing any kind of job, and you 683 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 2: just you fly by the seat of your pants and 684 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: you're just trying to stay one day head. 685 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: Of everything else. 686 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 2: I used my teaching analogy all the time, you know, 687 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 2: I was teaching calculus. I stayed one day ahead of 688 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: my class the entire time. That was it until I 689 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 2: got through the year. And then I got done with 690 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 2: the year and look back and say, okay, now I've 691 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 2: kind of got this down a little bit. Now I 692 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 2: can be a little bit more focused on this area. 693 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 2: I can be a little bit better with this. And 694 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: you start to then focus on those and make those 695 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 2: part of your repertoire, and away you go. 696 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 3: I think last year Will was just firing. I think 697 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 3: Matt Burke put it best. 698 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 2: Last year, Will Anderson was just throwing fastballs. 699 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,479 Speaker 1: He's just doing fastball as fastball as fastball now. 700 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 2: His fastballs ninety eight, ninety nine, it's a good fastball. 701 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 2: It was a great fastball. I think as the year 702 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 2: wore on you could see him try and change speeds 703 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 2: a little bit. But it was kind of a two 704 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 2: pitch repertoire, if you will, and it was good enough 705 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 2: because Will is that talented, he's that relentless to the 706 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 2: quarterback him talking about those other little things. 707 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 3: That's like a pitcher adding a third pitch. 708 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 6: Yeah wow, Like you say, the fastball is nice, but right, 709 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 6: why aren't you add in a circle change. 710 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: And throwing a sweeper? Well? 711 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 2: The six whatever you got in a curve and you throw. 712 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 2: You got three pitches now that you can beat people with. 713 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 2: And now you're thinking more technically about, Okay, this is 714 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 2: where I want to spot this pitch. I'm really good 715 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 2: at throwing this pitch. Now this I want to put 716 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 2: it here. So I think about that in kind of 717 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: terms of pitching. You know, he's added a few pitches, 718 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 2: trying to add a few pitches. Here about pictures all 719 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 2: the time. You know, hey, I'm working on a change 720 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 2: up this down spring training. You know I'm working on 721 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 2: working on a changeup. Well, none of those other pitches work. 722 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 2: If your fastball sucks. If you're throwing an eighty six 723 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 2: mile on hour fastball, you got issues. Will doesn't. Will's 724 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 2: got that fastball, and now he's adding to the repertoire. 725 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 2: So that's kind of the way that that I, you know, 726 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 2: analyg you know, make an analogy to baseball and that 727 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 2: in that sense a lot of people understand baseball. So 728 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,719 Speaker 2: it's like, just think about pictures adding pitches. I think 729 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 2: that's Will what Will's talking about. And it's very very technical. 730 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 2: You think about pictures and you know where the elbow 731 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 2: has to be, where the hand has to be where 732 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 2: the grip is, where you want to grip it. You know, 733 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 2: just the risk, you know, the tork that all that 734 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 2: kind of stuff. Those are all things Will's talking about. 735 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 2: But it's just in a football sense, but that's kind 736 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 2: of how you can think about it in a baseball sense. 737 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 2: That's exactly what Will is doing. When you've been around 738 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 2: like a guy like Daniel Hunter, and you've been able 739 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 2: to work on that change up, and you know, in 740 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 2: some cases you might be able to throw a couple 741 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 2: of different. 742 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: Types of changeups. 743 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 2: Maybe you throw a circle change, maybe there's a different 744 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 2: kind of four seamer that you like to throw. Those 745 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 2: are the things Daniel Hunter's done and he's mastered those. 746 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 6: And the interject here, so he's Anderson's a round hunter 747 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 6: and picking his brain and all that stuff and learning 748 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 6: from him. He also spent a lot of time with 749 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 6: Miles s. Garrett that this offseason working out with Miles 750 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 6: Scarrett maybe the best pass rusher in the league right now. 751 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 6: Maybe not, you can argue, but there's strong arguments either 752 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 6: way on that one. So my point is he is 753 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,239 Speaker 6: surrounding himself mentally, yep, with ways to get better and 754 00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 6: hopefully putting that into action. 755 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: Go back. 756 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and to that point, you know Miles Garrett, You 757 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 2: know people, Miles. Miles might be the freakiest dude in 758 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 2: the NFL. I mean he's six six six seven two 759 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 2: sixty five and he runs like Tank Dell. 760 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,719 Speaker 3: I mean he is as fast. I think he ran 761 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 3: in the four four four five range. 762 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: I mean he could fly. 763 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,719 Speaker 2: I've almost I've almost gotten hit by him running full speed. 764 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 2: Was after the A and m Arizona State text kickoff 765 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 2: game that we had here. I happened to be on 766 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 2: a field. I was doing some tech sag stuff. I 767 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 2: turned around and all of a sudden he was flying 768 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 2: by me to get away from the reporters, and he 769 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 2: almost hit me. I thought, man, God, how do you 770 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 2: play against a dude like that? 771 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: But here's the thing about Miles, And I. 772 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 6: Think, did he if he had a hit you, would 773 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 6: it have been as hard as he hit Mike Bercovicci 774 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 6: that day? 775 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? 776 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 2: Probably did he hit Mike Berkovicci. Yeah, he hit Mike 777 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 2: Bercovicci a lot in that game. But I think the 778 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 2: one thing about Miles, and I've heard him miked up. 779 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 2: I've heard him talk and speak about past rushing. 780 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: He is. 781 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,719 Speaker 2: He's very astute, very smart about how he about his 782 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 2: rushes and what he's what he's trying to do. He 783 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 2: has a plan every single time he fires off the ball. 784 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 2: When you watch a game, you don't think, Okay, this 785 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 2: guy's just firing off the ball as fast as you can. 786 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 2: He don't really have a plan. These guys have plans, 787 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 2: the great ones do. The great ones have a plan 788 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 2: for how they're going to attack and set up a tackle. 789 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 2: I think Will's kind of in the process of learning 790 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 2: how to do all of that. He did it at 791 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 2: the college level, but now he's he's taking all the 792 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 2: information he gathered as a rookie and now he's just 793 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 2: storing it, saying, Okay, against this guy can do this, 794 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 2: against these kind of guys, I can do that. 795 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 3: And I think he's. 796 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 2: Kind of storing that, and then he's also trying to 797 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 2: pick the brain to those guys. Hey, you know, this 798 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 2: is the kind of guy that gave me some issue 799 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 2: last year. 800 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: How do I what do I need to do? 801 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 6: What? 802 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 3: What's the best way to go about this? What do 803 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 3: my feet need to be? 804 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 2: You know, we talk about the hands all the time, 805 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 2: but where the feet need to be and that was 806 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 2: one thing that the Neil Hunter talked about, was you know, 807 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 2: connecting your hands and your feet on your rush, and 808 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 2: I thought that was very astute kind of coming from 809 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 2: Neil Hunter. So I think Will has got kind of 810 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 2: the best of all worlds. And Will also knows in 811 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,719 Speaker 2: certain cases that he can fire off the ball and 812 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: just long arm or bull rush a tackle and he's 813 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 2: probably going to get somewhere near the quarterback because that's 814 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 2: just the kind of tower, uh and leverage that he 815 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 2: plays with. 816 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 3: And Mike God, I'm so glad that Will Anderson Junior's attacks. 817 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, Okay. Another thing that really intrigued me was Deniko. Well, 818 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 6: just I'm intrigued by what he's going to mean to 819 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 6: this defense this year on the whole, Deniko Autrey, because 820 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 6: he can play you know, a variety of spots on 821 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 6: the defensive line very very effectively at a very high level, 822 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 6: and he causes problems. And it's fun here from from 823 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 6: Demico Demiko ryans today about what other people around the 824 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 6: league think of Denico Autry and Demiko said, this one. 825 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,240 Speaker 8: Of the toughest and most respective players across the league. 826 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 8: Like you talk to any offensive lineman. That's win against him. 827 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 8: They he has their utmost respect. So and you see 828 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 8: the way he plays, he plays the game the right way. 829 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 8: See he plays hard, he plays with the intensity that's unmassed, 830 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 8: and he still finds a way to get in the backfield, 831 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 8: moving over, moving around, playing multiple spots. Weather is at 832 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 8: the interior on the edge. He's just a tough, hard 833 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 8: nosed football player and that's unbreakable. 834 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 6: But then when Denico Autry spoke, that guy doesn't mess around. 835 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 6: That guy hits the hole, he does his job and 836 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 6: gets out of there. He's not go into pontificate. He's 837 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,240 Speaker 6: not long winded. He's just he's very matter of fact. 838 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 6: He's all business. And it was cool hearing from him today. 839 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 6: And it was cool hearing him when he was asked, Hey, 840 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 6: what about how are you gonna do on the inside, 841 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 6: how are you gonna do with the outside? What are 842 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 6: your thoughts on that? And this is what he had 843 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 6: to say there. 844 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 5: They really don't change if you're just getting off an 845 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 5: attacking I mean, I'm just gonna attack every position I'm 846 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 5: met and it should work out for me. 847 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 6: We touched on Denico Autry a few months ago, right 848 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,919 Speaker 6: after he signed here. But seeing what you say over 849 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 6: the last few days, over the last week or so 850 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 6: of OTA's John, how optimistic, How excited are you? We 851 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 6: just heard about that excitement with Will Anderson, But what's 852 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 6: the excitement level sprinkling in Deniko autry when you have 853 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 6: Anderson and you have Daniel Hunter. 854 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty high. 855 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 2: Denko didn't do a ton in the mini camp this week, 856 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 2: but look, he's a what ten eleven year vets he. 857 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 2: I don't know if the interview got off on a 858 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 2: good foot when he corrected somebody about his age. Somebody 859 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 2: tried to make him a little bit older. I don't 860 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,439 Speaker 2: know who it was, trying to make him a little 861 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 2: bit older than he was. He was like thirty three, 862 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 2: not thirty four. I thought that was a pretty funny 863 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 2: moment in his press conference, and Denko didn't say anything, 864 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 2: and I go back. 865 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 1: I remember this. It was date. 866 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 2: I think it was day two free agency, and on 867 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 2: day one Denko had agreed to sign here with the Texans. 868 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 2: And on day two, Jeffrey Simmons took to ex Twitter posted, 869 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,439 Speaker 2: oh no, don't tell me that the Texans got Nico. Yeah, 870 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 2: And I was like, well, wait, we already got Nico. 871 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 2: Oh he's talking about the Nico. Okay, I got it. 872 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 2: That's that's pretty high praise. I mean, that's a guy. 873 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 2: Those guys, I feel like there's another teammate er two 874 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 2: that were probably so they're like, damn it, what are 875 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 2: we doing. That's the one that I go, Yeah, that's 876 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 2: the one that stood out to me with Simmons that 877 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 2: I remember them. Then there might have been others, but 878 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 2: I think that's what Deniko has meant to his teams, 879 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 2: the Raiders, the Colts, and the Titans. 880 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 3: I'm glad that he finally ends his AFC tour here. 881 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 2: Uh with the best of the lot being in the Houston, Texas, 882 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 2: You do you start thinking about man? Okay, So Mark 883 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 2: and I talked about this, you know, at practice a 884 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 2: little bit. We talked about players that might not be starters, 885 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 2: but you know you have to have them during the season, 886 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 2: and one of those was Derek Barnett. So, okay, let's 887 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 2: say you get in a third Let's say you get 888 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 2: a third down and say twelve situation, you run. If 889 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 2: you want, you pick up nine yards, you have to 890 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 2: punt third down twelve situation. You can go back to 891 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,839 Speaker 2: the throw and on one end you got you got 892 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,720 Speaker 2: Will and then inside you got Dannico Autry. You've bumped 893 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 2: Derek Barnett In's side and then Daniel Hunter's on the 894 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 2: other side, or you flip flop some of those guys. 895 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 1: But those are the four guys. 896 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 2: Those are the four guys rushing the quarterback at that 897 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 2: point when was third and twelve and oh, by the way, 898 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 2: you're gonna bring a fifth guy on a blitz or 899 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,280 Speaker 2: some sort of pressure or however you're gonna put it together. 900 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 3: That gets to be really really fun when you think 901 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 3: about it. 902 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 2: And Denico Autry is when you see him, you're like, man, 903 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 2: is that a defensive end? 904 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: Is that a tackle? Is that? You know? 905 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 2: He's both? He can play both. He's not a permanent tackle, 906 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 2: He's not a permanent end. But he's a guy with 907 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 2: that inside outside flex that that the scouts and NFL 908 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 2: teams are always looking for. Hey, man, can we get 909 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 2: a guy that plays two or three different positions all 910 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:48,919 Speaker 2: in one guy? 911 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: I mean, Danik Autry is that. 912 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 2: And last year I know he us double digit sacks 913 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 2: might have been his best sack year and he had 914 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 2: a couple of those. 915 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:57,320 Speaker 1: He gets the Texans. 916 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 2: But he's always done that against the Texans, so now 917 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 2: hopefully he's doing it for the Texans. But Drey, I'm 918 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 2: just I'm thrilled when I see him just being just 919 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 2: on the field with the rest of the defensive line. 920 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 2: And at one point I saw the defensive line walk 921 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 2: by me and there was Heinish, there was Barnett, and 922 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 2: in front of them Daniel and Will and so the 923 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 2: four of them were kind of having a conversation as 924 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 2: they were walking together from one drill to the next. 925 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,879 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, that group on the defensive line is 926 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 2: such is so different from what was here just a 927 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,959 Speaker 2: couple of years ago, what was here even last year, 928 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 2: and it even look there's gonna be some question marks 929 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 2: about it. 930 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: You know. 931 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 2: Obviously, can everybody stay healthy, and that's always an issue, 932 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. 933 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 3: But you know, are the interior guys gonna step up? 934 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 2: You know, as uh Flarunzo fi the Cassi, is he 935 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 2: gonna be able to step up into It's that role 936 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 2: Tim Settle, who is a lot bigger than I expected. 937 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 2: By the way, I don't know why I had this 938 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 2: image that'll be in like three zero five, Ish was 939 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 2: like three twenty. 940 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 6: I didn't get a chance to listen, and I apologize 941 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 6: it's it's on me. But did you and Mark get 942 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 6: to talk talk about his rapping? 943 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:02,320 Speaker 1: Who Tim Settle? 944 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 6: And yeah, he's got a Spotify channel. 945 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 2: Okay, you're gonna have to hear the rest of that 946 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 2: on our podcast page in the lab, it's fantastic. But 947 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 2: Tim Settle, we had a backloger, guys like three or 948 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 2: four guys deep, and they were like, you gotta go, 949 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 2: you gotta go. We are in a great time with 950 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 2: Tim Subtle. We'd have definitely gotten into his Spotify page 951 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 2: for sure. We definitely you're gonna hear that interview and 952 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 2: love it. But we asked him about one of the 953 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 2: greatest interested entrances in college football, the Ander saman and 954 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 2: Virginia Tech. He talked about how hype that is to 955 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 2: be in the tunnel and to feel at shake. He said, 956 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,320 Speaker 2: it's very very cool. And Tim Settles a big, big dude. 957 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 2: He is a lot bigger than I even expected. He's 958 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,720 Speaker 2: a he's three twenty, but not a fat three twenty, 959 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 2: if that makes sense. I mean, he's a put together dude. 960 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 2: He's gonna be really fun to watch no question about that. 961 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,320 Speaker 2: Another guy's gonna be fun to watch is Mike Ford Junior. 962 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 2: You may see him on special teams. He was a 963 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 2: key to the brown special teams last year. He's gonna 964 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 2: be key to the Texas special teams this year. Mark 965 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 2: and I caught up with Mike Ford Junior. Houston citizen. Yes, 966 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 2: over the last couple of years, he became a Houston citizen, 967 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,760 Speaker 2: even before he became a Texan. 968 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 3: We'll talk with Mike Ford next right here in Texantal Access. 969 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 2: We got one find a segment of this Wednesday in 970 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,359 Speaker 2: issue of Texans All Access. It is time to talk 971 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 2: to our new friend, Mike Ford. Now we say new friend, 972 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 2: he's new to Houston, Texas, but he's not new to Houston. 973 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 2: He actually moved to Houston a couple of years ago 974 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 2: and it just worked out that he ended up with 975 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 2: the Texans after the last few years with the Cleveland Browns. 976 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 3: So really glad that Mike is here. 977 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 2: And here's our conversation with the defensive backslash special team 978 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 2: or extraordinator, Mike Ford Junior. 979 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: Mike Ford joining us in studio. 980 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 4: Mike, Welcome to the Texans, Welcome to the hun Day 981 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 4: Texans Radio Studio, your maiden voyage here. How's the adjustment 982 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 4: been so far? 983 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 7: It's been pretty good. 984 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,799 Speaker 9: You know, I actually own my home out here for 985 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 9: a couple of years, so, oh, nic it's kind of 986 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 9: been easy, you know, just to be able to drive 987 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 9: from home home and then come into work. 988 00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 7: You know, I kind of like it. I like it 989 00:41:59,480 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 7: a lot. 990 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean obviously we know about that. 991 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: But why did you choose Houston as your home? 992 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:10,399 Speaker 9: Well, you know, a lot of land for you know, yeah, right, 993 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 9: no stand income tax all that. 994 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. 995 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 2: Had you had any experience in Houston or is it 996 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 2: just kind of looked around at that's the place I 997 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 2: want to be. 998 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:18,439 Speaker 7: Yeah. 999 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 9: I had came out here a little bit, you know, 1000 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,399 Speaker 9: a couple of times, and I really liked it a lot. 1001 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 9: And then I was just speaking with her. My brother 1002 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 9: had got a job out here, and we're real family. 1003 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 1: Ore got it. 1004 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 9: So then I just got everybody to come out here 1005 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:32,720 Speaker 9: and we all moved to Texas. 1006 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,839 Speaker 1: So you're a Houston guy. This is good. So tell 1007 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 1: us about your game. 1008 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,240 Speaker 4: When people watch your play preseason games coming up sooner 1009 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 4: off August first, what are they going to see from 1010 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 4: Mike Ford? 1011 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:43,240 Speaker 7: Energy? 1012 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 9: Energy they're gonna see splash plays, you know, something that 1013 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 9: get you up out your seat, and you're gonna you 1014 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 9: don't see me celebrating. 1015 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 7: So let's all just have fun. Let's have fun, Mike. 1016 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 2: You also with the Browns really really good on special teams. 1017 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 3: How much does special teams play a role for you? 1018 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 9: I think that's that's probably my main role, you know. 1019 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 9: That's that's what I hold my shield on. 1020 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 6: You know. 1021 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 9: I go out there and I honor myself to be 1022 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,919 Speaker 9: the best special teams player in the league. 1023 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 7: You know, So that's that's my. 1024 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:10,399 Speaker 1: Role, Mike. 1025 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,839 Speaker 2: There's We've talked to guys about this over the last 1026 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 2: few years, and the Texas have had special teams at 1027 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:17,359 Speaker 2: the top of the league. 1028 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 1: I mean, they've been been really really good. 1029 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 2: Part of the reason that they've had that is they've 1030 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 2: had guys that have truly and completely bought into the 1031 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 2: fact that they know the importance they bring to special 1032 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 2: teams and then it shows the way they play. But 1033 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,320 Speaker 2: there are a lot of guys that don't. They don't 1034 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 2: I want to be a defender. I want to play 1035 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 2: on offense. How tough is it to say, you know what? Yeah, 1036 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 2: I will specialize on special teams. I'll get my time 1037 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 2: on defense whenever, but I'm gonna make sure special teams 1038 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 2: are the best. How tough is it to kind I 1039 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 2: don't want to say accept that role, but to dive 1040 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 2: into that role full full speed. 1041 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 9: I mean I just approached the game with you know, 1042 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 9: every rep I get out there, I gotta I gotta make. 1043 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 7: It my best. 1044 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,399 Speaker 9: So no matter if I'm on special teams, I'm on 1045 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 9: defense wherever I have to play, you know, I got 1046 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 9: to help my team, yep. So I just got to 1047 00:43:59,239 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 9: go out there and give them. 1048 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 4: My So, Mike Ford with us, you were undrafted, how 1049 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,919 Speaker 4: hard is it to get noticed from Southeast Missouri State? 1050 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 9: I would say it's pretty difficult. Say, we don't got 1051 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 9: too many people right now in the league. I mean, 1052 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 9: I think we have our receiver, Christian Wilkinson, Yeah, Drew Forbes. 1053 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 7: So I mean it's pretty difficult. 1054 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 9: We only get you know, a select field guys that 1055 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 9: make it out of there, so you know, it's it's 1056 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 9: difficult to get it. 1057 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 4: What was that pre draft because you were undrafted? What 1058 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:29,359 Speaker 4: was all that like for you? 1059 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 9: I would say I had some good notice, you know, 1060 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 9: coming out it worked out well for me. Because I 1061 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 9: was able to test well and my pre draft so 1062 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 9: I had quite a few teams there. My class was 1063 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 9: pretty full with dbs, so ended up falling undrafted. But 1064 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 9: I'm here now. 1065 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 4: You've been in the league for a while. I mean 1066 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 4: that was twenty eighteen. So what's the key to lasting 1067 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 4: so long? 1068 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 7: I would say staying healthy? 1069 00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 9: You know, find an a vet, somebody to learn learn from, 1070 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 9: you know, I a would say, work, Like every day 1071 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 9: is work. You know, you have to you got to 1072 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 9: put your best before every day. You gotta you gotta 1073 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 9: learn and you got to apply yourself. 1074 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 2: Mike, I would imagine you know, some of the guys 1075 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 2: that come in, they signed free agent deals here, don't 1076 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,399 Speaker 2: know a lot about the Texans. You know Daniel Hunter. 1077 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 2: We haven't seen Daniel in a long time. I know 1078 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 2: he's from Houston. But you play for the Browns. You 1079 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,879 Speaker 2: saw this team up close and personal. Did that make 1080 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 2: it that much easier that you had seen the progress 1081 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 2: this team had made and the fact that you were 1082 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 2: now living here to decide to come to Houston play 1083 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 2: for the Texas? 1084 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, it was a no brainer. 1085 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,240 Speaker 9: Like I want to say, even before we had talked 1086 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 9: and like had any offer out on the table. 1087 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 7: I literally told Drew. 1088 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 9: I text him, like in text message, I was like, hey, man, 1089 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,800 Speaker 9: if we can like let's see, let's see if Houston 1090 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 9: wants to come around. 1091 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1092 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,800 Speaker 7: So, I mean it was it was a blessing. 1093 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 2: I know that playoff game didn't sit well for the 1094 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 2: people of Cleveland, but did that open your eyes a 1095 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:53,720 Speaker 2: little bit to what is here in Houston? 1096 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: Oh? 1097 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 7: Yeah? Okaeah. So like the first. 1098 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 9: Game, you know, we kind of got on them, and 1099 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 9: then we go back to the playoffs and we see 1100 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 9: like how resilient the team in it. I was like, man, 1101 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 9: that's a resilient team that that's young, you know, and 1102 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 9: they got a lot of potential and I want to 1103 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 9: be a part of it, you know. 1104 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 4: So all right, So sometimes I ask the Houston guys this, 1105 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 4: if a player is not from Houston and they want 1106 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 4: to know about Houston, what are you going to tell 1107 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 4: them about Houston? Give me a little snapshot of what 1108 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 4: you feel makes this city a great place to be. 1109 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 9: I would say it's welcoming. You know, there are a 1110 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 9: lot of friendly people. You know, there's a lot to do. 1111 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,640 Speaker 9: You know, they'll never be bored. Like we have concerts, 1112 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 9: all the time. We have like little events. The rodeo 1113 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 9: is amazing. So I just like there's always something to do. 1114 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 9: So I feel like that's what makes it makes the city. 1115 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 1: I like that. 1116 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 2: That's that might be my favorite answer, that is that's 1117 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:41,959 Speaker 2: one of the best answers we've gotten. 1118 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 1: There there is there's always there's always something to do. 1119 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 1: But in your downtime, you binge watch anything. 1120 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 3: What's your favorite show? 1121 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 1: You movies you're watching? What are you interested in? 1122 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,360 Speaker 9: Uh So, I don't really watch too much TV, but 1123 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 9: I gain a video game a lot. So right now, 1124 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 9: right now, I'm playing Call of Duty a lot. And 1125 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 9: then I'm kind of I'm a waiting on the college 1126 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 9: football to come out. So I've been I've been throwing 1127 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 9: going back and playing n CUAA fourteen. 1128 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 3: Oh wow, Now I hear the gameplay for this one's incredible. 1129 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I've heard. 1130 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:12,840 Speaker 2: I've seen some of the videos. It looks it looks 1131 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 2: absolutely incredible. I think I might go and get a 1132 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 2: machine just for that. Like, I don't game, it's been 1133 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:20,919 Speaker 2: a long time. I'll put it to you this way. 1134 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 2: I played Sega Genesis that was mine. That shows the 1135 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,879 Speaker 2: old played Sega Genesis when that college football game comes out, 1136 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 2: I'm curious to see how many people are gonna end 1137 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,359 Speaker 2: up getting because it sounds it sounds nice. 1138 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,360 Speaker 9: Say, don't we no knock on the sega, say I 1139 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 9: have my Nintendo sixty four upstairs. 1140 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 1: Oh nice, nice, nice. Mike, thanks a lot for joining us. 1141 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:38,399 Speaker 1: Good luck. 1142 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 3: Now that's a dude. 1143 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,840 Speaker 2: If you've got the Nintendo sixty four, you're an absolute 1144 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 2: dude in our book. A big thanks to Mike, to 1145 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 2: Mark for being here, to Drew for in the lab. 1146 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,480 Speaker 2: We'll see you guys tomorrow, and as always, go Texans,