1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Wow, everybody, It's Thursday, February twenty sixth, twenty twenty six. 2 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. 3 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 2: We Believe in Vitamin C. 4 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: It's Me and Man MG Marcus Grand joated by Michael Florio, 5 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: Kwan Jones dnp Illness rest up man. 6 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: Right exactly. Yeah, he you know, sent. 7 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: Us a little Texas morning said he is not feeling great. 8 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: So we told him to ice up son, get better 9 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: and hopefully he'll be back for next week. 10 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: That Floria is. 11 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: The the other side of having kids, because they are 12 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: germ incubators and they hang out in spaces like schools 13 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: or daycares with other germ incubators. So like I remember 14 00:00:54,720 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: when we first sent our son to daycare, it was 15 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: almost every two weeks he was coming home with some 16 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: new sniffle or virus or cold, which would inevitably cycle 17 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: through the house. So you know, if you decide to 18 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: walk that path, just to just know that that's what's 19 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: coming for you. 20 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 3: I will say, every time I go hang out with 21 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 3: my niece and nephews back home and stuff, I usually 22 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: get sick. And then me and Kyrie were talking before 23 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 3: the show, Lakwan did like a quick New orleanship. I 24 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 3: do a bunch of very quick trips because like fly 25 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 3: back home for weddings or whatever. I get sick every 26 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 3: time I do it. So like it was coming for 27 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 3: him whether he liked it or not. It was just 28 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 3: a matter of when not if. 29 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, between kids and airplanes, Yeah, it was bound to 30 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: take him down. So yeah, rest up, man, drink plenty 31 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: of fluids. Get invite him and seeing you. You know, 32 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: rest up and I will talk to you next week. 33 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: I mean time for us, the two of us still here. 34 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: We're still going through our team needs. As free agency 35 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: hits in about a week and a half, there's definitely 36 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: some new some of the non free agent variety. Also, 37 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: the combine is coming up this week. I actually didn't 38 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: put any combine stuff in the in the rundown. I 39 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: don't know if you want to good, Okay, good, because 40 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if you want to chat about it. 41 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: But you know, I could make it a you know, 42 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: an exception. But the combine is happening this week in Indianapolis. 43 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 3: I like that more and more stuff is being like 44 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 3: like certain teams aren't even going to this, Like it's 45 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: more now kind of like for the media and. 46 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 2: You know, the. 47 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: Front offices and stuff to kind of all it's kind 48 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 3: of like the Winter Meetings is how I use the 49 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 3: combine now, and like it's the Winter Meetings. Just occasionally 50 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: someone who hopes to get drafted shows us that they're 51 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: very fast or something like that. 52 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I think some of it is now we 53 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: have guys who train specifically for the combine, and the 54 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: more you do that, the more you start to realize 55 00:02:55,480 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: that the drills that they do there don't necessarily translate 56 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: to on field performance, you know. I mean, if you 57 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: have guys who are spending their time training, for instance, 58 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: for the forty, you know, those sorts of things, you know, 59 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: it's kind of become overblown. I think in a lot 60 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 1: of regards, we always have the combined hype bunnies who 61 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: move up the board and don't necessarily perform once they 62 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: get to the NFL. 63 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: I think even the interview portion. 64 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: Of it has become a little bit much with teams 65 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: trying to find the weirdest, most esoteric. 66 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: Questions to ask. 67 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, side, what's the weirdest thing you've ever 68 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: been asked in a job interview? 69 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: Can you think of that. 70 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 3: Weirdest yeah, I had the first thing that comes to mind. 71 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 3: It's a terrible story in my mind. 72 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: I they usually are. 73 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: I would yeah, like right, Like, I had a first interview. 74 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 3: It was for a to run the sports department of 75 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 3: like a local newspaper where I'm from. And they were like, 76 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 3: you know, so I had a really long beard, like 77 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 3: the law I randomly post college. Was like, I'm gonna 78 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: grow my beard out. And it was like eight months 79 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 3: of just not shaving. Oh wow, and they were like, 80 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 3: we don't really love the beard. So for the second interview, 81 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 3: I shaved and I went in like clean, like kind 82 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 3: of how it is now. And then they were like, 83 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 3: you got the gig, but instead of it being full time, 84 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 3: we're gonna make it freelance per store. And I was like, 85 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 3: I shaved the same position I already have. 86 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: Like what are you doing? 87 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yeah, that's terrible. I once had a job 88 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: I interviewed. I was going to be the sports editor 89 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: for kind of a local similar what you do, like 90 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: kind of a local news and information website. 91 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 2: Right. It was a kind of startup website. 92 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: And the guy who was my boss, my big boss, 93 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: he was above my boss, actually interviewed me and was 94 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: kind of just a strange dude, and I'll never forget. 95 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 2: He asked me, if you were a tree, what kind 96 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: of tree would you be? 97 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: And I yeah, I mean the look on your face 98 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: right now was sort of the I think the look. 99 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: I don't I hope I didn't show it, but that's 100 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: definitely the look I had inside. 101 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: And I think I made up. 102 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: Something like I was like I think I said like 103 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: a palm tree or something, because like I can be strong, 104 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: but also it can be flexible and move with the wind. 105 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, but it just the whole thing caught 106 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: me off guard. I'm like, what does this have to 107 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: do with. 108 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,239 Speaker 3: The That is a fantastic answer, though my first thought 109 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 3: was pained because I like Christmas, like you know, like 110 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 3: like that's a really good answer you had. 111 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 2: I think oak came into the end of my head 112 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: at some point. 113 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: I was just but I really was just like taken 114 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: aback by the whole thing, Like I have no idea. 115 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 3: What that like, you're printing on trees, that's the only 116 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 3: thing A tree kind of comes into this equation. 117 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: And we were in internet companies, so when we weren't. 118 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: Even doing that, you know, so I have no idea. 119 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: I have no idea where that man is nowadays. I 120 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: don't know that I particularly care. Uh. Anyway, we're talking 121 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: AFC North teams today, as we talked some free agent fits. 122 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: So we'll get through the AFC and the NFC North 123 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: as we do this. But let's start with a couple 124 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: of news headlines. Because in Denver, Sean Payton says he 125 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: is handing over play calling duties to new offensive coordinator 126 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: Davis Webb. My first thought is there hope for RJ. Harvey, 127 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: But like Floya, we don't really know what this means 128 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: because we have no idea what first time oh see 129 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: Davis Webb is gonna be like as a play caller. 130 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: So I mean, what any immediate takeaways when you hear 131 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: or read this. 132 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 3: My immediate takeaway besides what you just said of like, 133 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: we don't really know what this And I spoke about 134 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 3: this not with Davis Webb, but just like, to me, 135 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 3: the harder, hardest situations to figure out in this is 136 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 3: first time play callers because we especially when like there's 137 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 3: no college or anything like that to kind of fall 138 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 3: back on. My first thinking though was like I don't 139 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 3: really expect this to look all that much different because 140 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 3: Davis Webb has been a part of Sean Payton's staff 141 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: the last couple of years. He quickly gained a lot 142 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 3: of notaride this coaching cycle and was getting head coaching 143 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 3: interviews even though he wasn't even the OC last year. 144 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 3: Then they fired Lombardi and gave him play calling duties 145 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 3: to keep him in Denver. To me, I think it 146 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: just shows how much confidence Sean Payton has in him. 147 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: I still expect a heavy Sean Payton influence, which means 148 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 3: a lot of screen passes, a lot of slant stuff 149 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: like that, So I don't expect it to look all 150 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 3: that different. But maybe Davis Webb puts his own little 151 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 3: twist on it. Maybe we get a little bit more 152 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 3: aggressive throwing downfield or whatever. 153 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: I think. 154 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 3: When it comes to R. J. Harvey, though, he more 155 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 3: than anything more than play calling, I think needs to 156 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 3: survive the draft and free agency because if they bring 157 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 3: in someone like last year where they brought in JK. Dobbins, 158 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 3: that could be a wet blanket. Like I think Harvey's 159 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 3: clearly going to have a role Marcus, Like I don't 160 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 3: expect him to completely get you surfed or something like that. 161 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 3: But it's just a matter of how much percent of 162 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 3: the volume can we expect for him, And if he's 163 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 3: the clear one, obviously you feel a lot better than 164 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 3: if they use a high pick or a good amount 165 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 3: of money on. 166 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 2: A running back. 167 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 3: So with Harvey, that the personnel around him, to me, 168 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 3: matters a whole lot more than this change at play caller. 169 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I do think even if he survives free 170 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: agency and the draft and they don't really bring in 171 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: another real candidate to challenge him, I think what we 172 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: saw from him late in the season and in the 173 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: playoffs especially, is that I don't know that he's built 174 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: to be a workhorse. You know, we saw Julia McLoughlin 175 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: get carries, and look, nobody was effective running the ball 176 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: against the Patriots. 177 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: The Broncos could not run the ball. 178 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: I think some of it was because, look, the Patriots 179 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: didn't respect Jared Stidham for a good reason. But you know, 180 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: Harvey was not the guy when they were trying to 181 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 1: just run him between the tackles. He could not get 182 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: anything going, couldn't gain any traction. We saw them using 183 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: Jalil McLoughlin a few times. I mean, that didn't really 184 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: worked out. I think in a perfect world, it would 185 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: have been JK. Dobbins maybe taking a few more of 186 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: those carries. And so I wonder whether or not the 187 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: physical limitations, you know, unless he gets bigger and stronger, 188 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: spends a lot of time in the weight room this 189 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: offseason to become a stronger between the tackles runner, if 190 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: that sort of limits what they can do with him 191 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: play calling wise. But I you know, part of me 192 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: wants to see if Davis Webb wants to, you know, 193 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: kick the tires on that see what they got, and 194 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: a guy who can be explosive can be a big 195 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: play guy. I mean, I was definitely hoping, you know, 196 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: LQ was going to be here because yeah, I wanted 197 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 1: to hear his thoughts, knowing how much he loves R. J. 198 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: Harvey. 199 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: But I'm just, you know, I don't know, I'd like 200 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: to see more. I'd like to see, you know, maybe 201 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: we get Marvin Mims more involved, or you know, Troy 202 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: Franklin or Pat Bryant somebody. But I guess, but I 203 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: think you're right. I think being under Sean Payton's wing 204 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: for so long means that he's going to kind of 205 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: be the same as it ever was. 206 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 3: I also like RJE hard he might have to survive 207 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 3: this summer too, right, because he survived the draft of 208 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 3: free agency last year. And then it was like a 209 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 3: random day in June where JK. Dobbins signed, and I 210 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 3: remember vividly like I was at I was playing basketball 211 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 3: and I looked at my phone and I was like, 212 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 3: this isn't great for RJ. Harvey. And then all of 213 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 3: the takes from Fantasy Twitter were like, if JK. Dobbins 214 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 3: was good, he would have signed way back. And then 215 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 3: look how it played out, so like maybe, uh, maybe 216 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 3: we got to wait all the way until July or something. 217 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 2: Like that for RJ. Yeah. 218 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: I think that's that's an interesting point too. As we 219 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: hit free agency. I think when you talk about running backs, 220 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: I don't know that the hole he didn't sign right 221 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: away thing and necessarily is impactful anymore. I think once 222 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: upon a time, yeah, if you didn't sign in the 223 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: first few days, chances are people didn't really have a 224 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: plan for you. But I think with the way teams 225 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: sort of view the running back position now, I think 226 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: you can have a guy who signs later in the 227 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: offseason and still I'm in depending on the situation and 228 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: have a role. And I think that's what happened with JK. 229 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: Dobbins this past year over to Indianapolis speaking of the 230 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: Combine that is where that's going to be held. But 231 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: this is not Combine news. Yesterday, when I was putting 232 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: this run down together, saw his story that said Chris 233 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: Ballard can still see a future with Anthony Richardson on 234 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: the Colts, and then plot twist this morning before we 235 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: started doing the show, Anthony Richardson has requested a trade 236 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: and appears that the Colts are going to honor that 237 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: request and let him move on. 238 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: Oh. 239 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: Also something that I saw just a few minutes ago 240 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: we were talking a report that Richardson has regained full 241 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: vision in. 242 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 2: His right eye. 243 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: So after that sort of freak fluke injury last year 244 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 1: with the resistance band where he was hitting the face, 245 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: it appears that he has made a full recovery. So 246 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: that is certainly positive news. But I mean, at this point, 247 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: you know, he's been three years in the NFL, has 248 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: played has even played a full season was worth of games, 249 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: I don't believe, So. 250 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: What is the ceiling for him now? 251 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: He might thought like he's sort of Trey Lance all 252 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: over again. Right, but Trey Lance's even played more game. Well, 253 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: maybe I shouldn't say that. I don't know, Yeah, but 254 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: it feels like they're sort of on a similar, similar 255 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: track right now. 256 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 3: I don't disagree, but you know, I'm going to champion 257 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 3: for my boy. 258 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: Here. 259 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 3: I am a Anthony Richardson's stand because twofold one, when 260 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 3: he was drafted, the knock on him was he did 261 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 3: not have a lot of experience in college, right, he 262 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 3: just had that one year where he was the starter. 263 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 3: I think he threw less than four hundred passes in college. 264 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 3: I could actually pull that up and tell you exactly 265 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 3: how many he threw, but it's not that far off 266 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 3: from where he's at at the NFL. Three years in so, 267 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 3: in college he threw three hundred and ninety three pass attempts. 268 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 3: In the NFL, he has thrown three hundred and fifty. Right, Like, 269 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 3: this is just a guy who needs more seasoning. It 270 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 3: always has the thing for me, though, is he's still 271 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 3: just twenty three years old. He will be twenty four 272 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 3: next year. That's younger than Michael Pennock Junior and Bo 273 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 3: Nicks and these guys. Right, Like, he's still I know 274 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 3: he was drafted a year before those guys. He's still younger. 275 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 3: And I go back to some of the things we've 276 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 3: seen him do on the football field, right like some 277 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 3: of his running plays where it's just like, oh my god, 278 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 3: he's like Cam Newton but faster, or that I still 279 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 3: I forget. I think it was against the Titans, but 280 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 3: that one throw he made where he had a defender 281 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 3: in his face and he just like airmails it like 282 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 3: sixty yards. One of the best throws I've ever seen, 283 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 3: and all the physical tools are there. I understand that 284 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 3: he's very raw when it comes to breaking down defenses 285 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 3: and stuff like that. You know who else was Malik 286 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 3: Willis the number one rated quarterback, number one rated free 287 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 3: agent by Greg Rosenthal right now. So I think Anthony Richardson, yes, 288 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 3: he needs he needs to go to a place where 289 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 3: he has a coach that could kind of coach him up. 290 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe I don't I want him to get reps, 291 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 3: but I don't know. Maybe they view a Malik Willis path. 292 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 3: But Malik Willis and Kyler Murray, I will admit, you 293 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 3: could make an argument that they have higher upside or 294 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 3: maybe a combination of floor and upside after that, there 295 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 3: is not a quarterback available in my opinion, that sniffs 296 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 3: the upside of an Anthony Richardson. Maybe they're safer options, 297 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 3: There definitely are. But if you're like, like, I don't 298 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 3: wish this on him. I hope he goes somewhere better. 299 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 3: But if you're like the Jets. 300 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: Right, that's the one name that he's popping up, right, 301 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: why not? 302 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 3: Right? Like you're already hoping to have a high pick 303 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 3: next year, Anthony Richardson could either be terrible and help 304 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 3: you get that number one pick, or he can hit 305 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 3: and you suddenly don't have to draft a quarterback because 306 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: you have a very young one now with a clear 307 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 3: cut future. So if you're them, or the Dolphins or 308 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 3: any of these QB and needy teams that miss out 309 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 3: on Willis, I think Anthony Richardson is a fantastic pivot. 310 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: I mean that's to me, that's sort of the issue 311 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: is where can he go knowing he needs reps, knowing 312 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: he's got to get on the field and play. Where 313 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: can he go where he can get those opportunities? And yeah, 314 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: the options are sort of bleak. It's the Jets, maybe 315 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: it's the Dolphins. If they feel they feel, you know, 316 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: adventurous like that. They're obviously moving on from Tua, and 317 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: I don't think they're any there. They're nowhere close to 318 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: really being competitive like that. Seven wins last year was 319 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: sort of a mirage. I said last said last year, 320 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: I think they could be the worst team in the NFL. 321 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: So maybe you try with Anthony Richardson and see what happens. 322 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: You know, the Cardinals maybe are another option, depending on 323 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: what they want to do at quarterback, unless they decide 324 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: there's gonna you hand it over to Jacoby Brissette for 325 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: a full year. 326 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: But I don't really see that happening. 327 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: But like all the other places where he could go 328 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: and get reps or other bad teams, I should say 329 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: they don't have options, right, I mean the Browns, Uh, well, 330 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: we'll talk about the Browns in a little bit, But 331 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: the Browns have. 332 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 3: A Richardson Shadoor camp battle would break the Internet at 333 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 3: least fantasy Twitter, but. 334 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: Like not in a good way like this from a 335 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: from a comedy standpoint, I think it probably would. 336 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: But the Browns kind of out there own. They're kind 337 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: of overloaded. 338 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: With bodies at least, I don't know if they have 339 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: a guy. 340 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 2: The Titans have their guy for the time being. 341 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: The Raiders are they gonna draft Fernando Mendoza, so he's 342 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: not really gonna get a shot there. The Saints, you know, 343 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: they've got their guy that they want to try to 344 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: develop right now. And Tyler Shuck. So really, if you 345 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: have the Jets, the Dolphins and maybe the Cardinals kind 346 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: of the only real landing spots if he wants to 347 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: get on the field. 348 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 3: I keep operating as if Milik Willis is already a Cardinal. 349 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 3: I just feel like that's he's gonna end up. That's happening. 350 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 3: The Browns know that. I thought Richardson because look, I 351 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 3: know they have a lot of bodies, but no one 352 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 3: stands out there. Here's a wacky scenario I just thought 353 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 3: of right now as we're discussing this, Uh, why don't 354 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 3: we get headache for headache pick that did at first 355 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 3: round pick that didn't work out. For first round pick 356 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 3: that didn't work out, how about Anthony Richardson for JJ McCarthy. Right, 357 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 3: psychn you get your chance with JJ. Now we see 358 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 3: if you could if KAOC could get the most set 359 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 3: of Anthony Richardson, and we just go from there. 360 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: If I'm a Viking fan, I am burning everything down. 361 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: If that's what happens, I'd rather Anthony Richardson personally, He's 362 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: got he's got the skill set. 363 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: At least he does have the skill set. Yeah. 364 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 1: Man, we're gonna talk about the Vikings too, since it 365 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: just sort of worked out there was there were there 366 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: were AFC North and NFC North quarterback stories that popped 367 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: up on my radar in the last couple of days. 368 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, so perfect that we're talking this 369 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: division today, So. 370 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, we can. We can revisit this a little bit 371 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 2: later on in the show. 372 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: So that's a good spot for us to stop for 373 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 1: a minute, take a breath, come back. We'll dive into 374 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: the AFC North as we talked some free agency heading 375 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: up to the new league year coming about a week 376 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: and a half. That's next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, 377 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: all right, talking some free agency and looking at the 378 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: AFC North in reverse order of finish at the Browns, Bengals, Ravens, Steelers. 379 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: One thing I noticed so far going through these is 380 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: kind of looking at team needs. A lot of teams 381 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: need wide receivers, which is wild considering the amounts of 382 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: guys who've come out of that position, who've been successful 383 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: in the amount of you know, players just floating around 384 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: the league at that position, but still seems to be 385 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: a need across the NFL. 386 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 2: The Browns could. 387 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: Use a wide receiver they've I think they could use 388 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: a quarterback. Yeah, I was sort of looking at places 389 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: and nobody listed quarterback. 390 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 2: I think the Browns need a quarterback. 391 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: And to wit a story recently on NFL dot Com, 392 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: Brown's general manager Andrew Berry leaves the door open for 393 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson to compete for a starting job. And I'm 394 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: gonna ask you, Michael lef Floria, why don't I believe 395 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: that is true? 396 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 3: Because you have eyes and you pay close attention to 397 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 3: the NFL, and you've watched Deshaun Watson ever since he's 398 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 3: returned not be But I will say this though, right well, 399 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 3: the reason why they're not ruling him out is because 400 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 3: his base salary this year is forty six million dollars 401 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 3: and his cap hit is almost eighty one million dollars. Like, yeah, 402 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 3: they have incentive to not completely write him off. 403 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 4: But he was kind of vocal in a way that 404 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,719 Speaker 4: he's allowed to be vocal, like he wasn't saying like, oh, 405 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 4: it's all Stefanski's fault, but he was throwing a lot 406 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 4: of breadcrumbs and point kind of fingers and saying like 407 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 4: no one would succeed in this offense and stuff like that, 408 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 4: like look at and I think at one point too 409 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 4: even reference Baker Mayfield and so Maybee. 410 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 3: The Browns are like, well with Todd Monkin here, he 411 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 3: could get the most out of Deshaun Watson, but Todd 412 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 3: Monkin when he got there, was most excited about Shador Sanders. 413 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 3: So I don't envision a world where we see Deshaun 414 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 3: Watson playing, unless like maybe Sanders gets hurt or something 415 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 3: like that. But week one, everyone's healthy. I don't think 416 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 3: Watson is the starting quarter. And if he is, and 417 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 3: he looks how he has looked, I'm sorry. Browns fans 418 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 3: are gonna be in the exact same position a year 419 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 3: from them. 420 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson has played a total of nineteen games since 421 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. 422 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 2: That's it, oof, Yeah, I mean just yep. 423 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: He's been obviously hurt a lot. When he has played, 424 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: he has not looked good. I mean that twenty twenty 425 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: season when he threw for forty eight hundred yards. That 426 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: is such a distant memory now. 427 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 3: He was so just fun to watch, not forget like good. 428 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 3: I never saw that, like we never like he never 429 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 3: moved like he did pre suspension ever again and now 430 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 3: he's coming off of an achilles. 431 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just you know, I think you're right. 432 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: I think it's the We got a lot invested in 433 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: him financially, so we can't just say there's no chance 434 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: of him playing. But I feel like there's really no 435 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: chance of him playing because what do you have to 436 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: gain by starting him if you're the Browns. 437 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 2: I mean, right, because he's at the age he will 438 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 2: be thirty this year. 439 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: He's thirty right now, I should say, because he didn't 440 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: play all him last year. Last time he played his 441 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: age twenty nine season. He's thirty years old, so he's 442 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: not a developmental guy. After a year off, You've got 443 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: to wait for him to sort of get back into 444 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: game speed, and who knows how long that's going to take. 445 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: You're not really expected to compete, so there's just there's 446 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: really no upside to playing Deshaun Watson unless you absolutely 447 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: have to. So I guess you're just sort of paying 448 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 1: service to this if anything, And. 449 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 3: Remember how bad Rogers and Cousins were first year back 450 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 3: from an Achilles. 451 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: Like, I don't know, yeah, no, I just I don't. 452 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 2: I don't. I just saw it. I was just like, yeah, 453 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: this feels like. 454 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: A GM sort of paying lip service to a thing 455 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 1: that he has to, but with no real. 456 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: Uh you know, no real meaning behind it. 457 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: Also, I think it's interesting, you know, him Bury leaving 458 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: bread crumbs because the person he should be leaving bread 459 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: crumbs for is the owner who went out and signed 460 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson to this hideous contract that now has them 461 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: buried under an avalanche right now in terms of the 462 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: salary cap, and the Browns are six and a half 463 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: million dollars over the cap at the moment. 464 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 3: A more year they could get out of it. 465 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. 466 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: So, I mean but it's sort of again, it sort 467 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: of hampers any sort of development. I mean, does that 468 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: mean they're out in the free agent market? Is it 469 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: just like we're trying to build through the draft for 470 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: the time being. 471 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: Is that it? 472 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,959 Speaker 3: I think they'll maneuver some cap around, and I just 473 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 3: I don't think we're going to get like a huge 474 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 3: splash out of them. It's really hard. Especially Look, I know, 475 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 3: top quarterbacks get paid, and you hear stuff like, oh, 476 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 3: it's hard to build. No, when you have a top 477 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 3: quarterback and they're worth the money you pay them, it 478 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 3: is the best thing you could have in the NFL. 479 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 3: But when you're paying someone Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Patrick 480 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 3: Mahomes type money and they're one of the worst, maybe 481 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 3: the worst starter in the NFL, and then you're paying 482 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 3: Calves owner. I didn't realize he was the Cavs owner 483 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 3: until the other day, Miles Garrett an all time record contract, Like, yeah, 484 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 3: you got so much cap tied up in a couple 485 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 3: of spots that it makes it really hard to build 486 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 3: out the rest. So I do think we'll see We'll 487 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 3: see some like minor moves from the Browns, and then 488 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 3: I think the draft is largely where we're going to 489 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 3: see them get their new players for this season. But 490 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 3: I have a feeling right like for Todd Monkin or 491 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 3: whatever they probably were, like, look, twenty twenty six is 492 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 3: gonna be what it is. We have to get out 493 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 3: from under this Watson contract and then we can kind 494 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 3: of think about rebuilding for the future. So it's probably 495 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 3: more about getting in guys that Monkin thinks he can 496 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 3: develop long term, right. 497 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 2: I mean, the. 498 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,479 Speaker 3: Browns have been a like the Jim Schwartz thing, Like 499 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 3: it's just they cannot get out of their own way. 500 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: I mean, bad teams stay bad for a reason, and 501 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: the Browns have plenty of reasons why they have stayed 502 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: bad for a long time. But also we should stop 503 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 1: giving them high draft picks because they keep squandering them. 504 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 2: So that's just me. 505 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: Bengals mostly need things on the defensive side of the football. 506 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 2: You know, they are set offensively. 507 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: You know, they've got their quarterback, they've got their wide receivers, 508 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: they've got a good running back and Chase Brown. I mean, 509 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: I guess they can go look for a tight end 510 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: if they wanted to. I mean, it feels like that's 511 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: at least conservast offensive skill positions is maybe the only thing. 512 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: But but again, I don't know, Floria, what tight end 513 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: can break through that Chase Higgins duo to get significant 514 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: targets at any point. 515 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 3: The crazy thing, too, is they paid Mike Kiseki last 516 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 3: season like he cap hit wise is in their top ten, 517 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 3: Like it it doesn't make sense to even when they 518 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 3: did it right, I was like, you have Tea and 519 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 3: Chase and you're paying Burrow. You don't need to invest 520 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 3: in a time, especially Mike Kiseki, you know. But yeah, 521 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 3: I think if you're it's O line and defense. Like 522 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 3: if you spend on skill positions or anything like that, 523 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 3: it's like, what are you doing here? 524 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 2: What it is? Yeah? 525 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 3: You you have maybe the best one to two punch 526 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 3: in the NFL. If not the best, it's what, well, 527 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 3: the Cowboys will probably have surpassed them, but one of 528 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 3: the best, you know. So like you're loaded on offense 529 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 3: just and you got to replace, Like your defense was 530 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 3: awful and you had Trey hendrickson pat Like, now you 531 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 3: got to replace your best player on defense as well. 532 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think that that's got to be the 533 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 3: focal point defense in no line. 534 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think you talk about duos wide 535 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: receiver duos, you know, in no particular order. The Bengals, 536 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, the Rams. I'm saying this because one of 537 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: us isn't here today. 538 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 3: The Eagles, I would still put them up there. 539 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bills. 540 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of aj Brown chatter this week. 541 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: He's not leaving Philly, right, They're not they're not gonna 542 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna trade him. 543 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 2: They're gonna let him go. He's he's staying with the Eagles. 544 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 3: I think in an ideal world he would be gone 545 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 3: because he wants out, and I think they're kind of 546 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 3: getting a little tired of his Shenanigans. But uh, the 547 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 3: dead cap would be seventy two million if they traded 548 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 3: him this year. They got an out after this season, 549 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 3: so I think we get one more year of aging. 550 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just you know, I feel like that's a 551 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: thing that it's good to talk about it. It's content 552 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: filler here in late February, but I just don't think 553 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: it has any real merit to it. The Ravens could 554 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: use some help at wide receiver. I feel like the 555 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: Ravens probably should go big. They got they have decent 556 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: cap space twenty two and a half million that they 557 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: can spend. At some point, they really have to commit 558 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: to helping Lamar Jackson with some of his weapons there, right, 559 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: I mean again, say, Flowers, nice piece, not necessarily a 560 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: game changer whether or not they get him. 561 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 2: Like it feels like, hey man, maybe we go hard 562 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 2: after a. 563 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: Mike Evans or somebody like that would be kind of 564 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: a cool piece to add to that Ravens offense. I mean, 565 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, but that at some point they've got 566 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: to really just try to push their chips in on 567 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: a wide out. 568 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. Like I know, they paid Rashad Bateman, 569 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 3: they still have say Flowers on his rookie deal. They 570 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 3: tried it with like DH and stuff like that. But 571 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 3: my concern is they just brought I know, Monkin is gone. 572 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 3: The offense is going to look different, so they're going 573 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 3: to address that side of the ball as well, But 574 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 3: with the big overhaul coming on the defensive side of 575 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 3: the ball, that's my fear as not as like, Look, 576 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 3: if I'm a Ravens fan, I'm like, I trust Lamar 577 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 3: in that offense. I want the defense to get better. 578 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 3: But as a fantasy player, that's my fear is that 579 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 3: the bulk of their money gets invested in the defensive 580 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 3: side of things. 581 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: Yes, again, it's probably a smart way to build the roster, 582 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: but that's not what we're here for, you know. But 583 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: especially if you've got folks in the building, you know, 584 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: you've got the offensive coordinators saying that there's another level 585 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: that Lamar Jackson can rise to. Well, maybe but some 586 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: of that means the cast around him has to kind 587 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: of help him rise to that level. 588 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 2: He can be a willing passer, but. 589 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: At some point, like the guys had to catch the 590 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: ball and do something with it afterwards. So you know again, yeah, 591 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna They're probably gonna go and splurge on any 592 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: Mike Evans. 593 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 2: It would be nice, but I. 594 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 3: Don't know why Keenan Allen's thank you. I think he retires, 595 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 3: but I'm too the retirement home path, like they'll sign 596 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 3: another older, big name wide receiver and call it a day. 597 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, Keenan Allen in Baltimore with me, it just 598 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: look weird. I'm trying to envision it in my head 599 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: and it just looks weird seeing him in that uniform. 600 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 3: Keenan Allen bears you. We're gonna look back and be like, what. 601 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, really will Yeah exactly. 602 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: They've got the Steelers who have again they got a 603 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: lot of money to spend forty four point seven million dollars. 604 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: They are another team that absolutely needs some wide receiver help. 605 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: Even if GMFB is Isaac Rochelle has DK metcalf is 606 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: a top five wide out in the NFL, I feel 607 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: like that's probably not enough. I think they also need 608 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: quarterback help. Is Aaron Rodgers coming back? Are we gonna 609 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: have another year of this again? 610 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 3: My thinking is yes, they've already said right like we're 611 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 3: not gonna allow him to do it like last year 612 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 3: because it was in like June that he signed, like 613 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 3: they need to know sooner than later. And I do 614 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 3: believe that part of it, right Like, I think they're 615 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 3: telling Rogers, we will have you back if you want 616 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 3: to be back, but if you don't, we need to 617 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 3: know so that we can move forward with free agency 618 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 3: in the draft knowing what we need. I also think 619 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 3: it could be like last year in the sense of 620 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 3: he didn't sign till June, but every move that happened 621 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 3: to indicate like they didn't sign anyone. They didn't draft 622 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 3: a quarterback to Will Howard in like the sixth round. 623 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 3: I think it was their seventh round. So yeah, it 624 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 3: was like, all right, we could read the tea leaves 625 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 3: here that Aaron Rodgers is gonna be the guy. But 626 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 3: the way they've just been talking about it, like McCarthy 627 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 3: being open to having him back, the Steelers publicly putting 628 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 3: out that like we would welcome Rogers back if he 629 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 3: wanted to. And the way that Rogers spoke this year 630 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 3: at the end of the year, like he's the most 631 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 3: funny's had in a while, and he felt like one 632 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 3: of the guys again and rightfully so because the Steelers 633 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 3: roster or like old so they get along with Aaron 634 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 3: Rodgers quite well. But yeah, I do think though, if 635 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 3: you're Pittsburgh, you he cannot be your only plan at quarterback, right. 636 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 3: I know you have Will Howard there, but whether it's 637 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 3: using like a second or third round pick on a 638 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 3: developmental guy or maybe you bring in a Kyler. I 639 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 3: think Kyler would play over Rogers, but you know, like 640 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 3: an Anthony Richardson something like that. 641 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna say, Richardson seems like a fit there potentially, right. 642 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, to like sit behind him, Like I think you 643 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 3: have to do something else. But I kind of think 644 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 3: we have it if we have seen Rogers. To me 645 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 3: kind of feels like if we had seen the last 646 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 3: of him, he would have wanted us to know that 647 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 3: was the last of him, you know. 648 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I also think I really do think if his 649 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: last throw wasn't a pick six where on top of 650 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: that he got trucked by the ball carrier. If it 651 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: was nearly any other way that the season ended, maybe 652 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: he feels better about walking away. But there's no way 653 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: that Aaron Rodgers ego will let that. 654 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 2: Be the last thing we remember of him in the NFL. 655 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 3: Like if he if he beats the Ravens and then 656 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 3: like that first play against Houston, he gets hurt and 657 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 3: he's done for like maybe that's the last we see 658 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 3: him because he walked off the field against Baltimore, you know, 659 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 3: winning a playoff game. Kind of, although speaking of that, 660 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 3: did you see that The league this week came out 661 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 3: and said Isaiah Likely's catch that would have been the 662 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 3: game winning catch in their first matchup should have been 663 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 3: a touchdown And Lamar was like, wait, so we won 664 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 3: that game. They would have won the division and made 665 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 3: the playoffs had that call been called, right, like huge miscall. 666 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 3: But if you're the Steelers, don't you don't care? 667 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 2: But no, is it better or worse when leagues do that? 668 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 3: Worse? 669 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,719 Speaker 1: I think it's worse, right, I would almost rather you 670 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: just shut up about it, like don't tell me, don't 671 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: don't tell me, because because you're not gonna award me anything. 672 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: They're just gonna you know, pat me on the back 673 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: and be like, hey, sorry, Champ screwed me. You know, Like, 674 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: I don't like the NBA does that last two minutes 675 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: report where they talk about all the calls and you 676 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: know what they got right, what they got wrong, whatever, 677 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: But because you're not gonna app actually change anything, like 678 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: just just keep it to yourself. I just it doesn't 679 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:36,959 Speaker 1: make sense to me. 680 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 3: When the Knicks played the Sixers in the playoffs a 681 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 3: couple of years ago, there was a two minute report 682 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 3: that said they got something wrong that would have greatly 683 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 3: switched one game, maybe in the favor of the Sixers, 684 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 3: And then like two days later it happened against the Knicks, 685 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 3: and the fan bases were like, we both lost the 686 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 3: game to it. Who cares, right, Like that doesn't make 687 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 3: me feel any better. If anything, it makes me feel 688 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 3: more angry if my team is on the wrong side 689 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 3: out of a call in the league is like, you 690 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 3: guys shouldn't have lost that game. Like no, like fight 691 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 3: me then, like give us a chance to win it. 692 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 3: You know. 693 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I always laugh and every something something happens in 694 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: baseball and they're like the managers like we're playing this 695 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: game under. 696 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,720 Speaker 2: Protest it doesn't change anything. 697 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: And I just imagine basically, it just means that the 698 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: manager's gonna sit on the dugout steps with like his 699 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: arms folded and his bottom lip poked out like a 700 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: you know, Toddler or something like. 701 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 2: Man, don't tell me if you screwed up. 702 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 3: Pull the Bobby Valentine and come back with fake glasses on. 703 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 2: With what the glasses and the fake mustache. 704 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 3: That's the manager has ever done. And I don't think 705 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 3: it'll be topped. 706 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 2: Oh man? Uh yeah, all right. 707 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: That's our look at the ANFC nor a break come 708 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: back to the NFC North. Some interesting things there, including 709 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: some quarterback issues somewhere along the way. That's next on 710 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football podcast. 711 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 2: Talk Free Agency. 712 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 1: Looking at the NFC North and in reverse order of finish, 713 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: we got the the Lions, Vikings, Packers, and Bears. I 714 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,720 Speaker 1: when I look at this, it's like, well, the Lions 715 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: really did finish last technically in the NFC North. They 716 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: were nine to eight just because that the vision was 717 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: super competitive and all those teams were really bunched together. 718 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 3: But you know, the Vikings finishing over five hundred is 719 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 3: something I will never give credit, like they were so 720 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 3: bad and then they won their final four games, and 721 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 3: maybe they deserve credit for that, but like you were 722 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 3: eliminated already, Like in my head, the Vikings finished in 723 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 3: last place, all right, sure, but. 724 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 2: Either way, they're nine to eight the Lions. 725 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: I think most of their issues are on the defensive 726 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: side of the ball. Again, they've got they've got any 727 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: quarterback in Jared Goff. Okay, yeah, he's not elite, but 728 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 1: he's definitely an above average quarterback. I think they're fine there. Obviously, 729 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,839 Speaker 1: they've got a top notch running back. Engineer Gibbs sort 730 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: of curious what the future is going to be for 731 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: David Montgomery, you know, with his ball club, since he 732 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: was obviously deemphasized in the offense last year. They've got 733 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 1: quality wide receivers i' mon Ross, Saint Brown, Jamison Williams, 734 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: even Isaac you know, they are set offensively, they just 735 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: got to fix things on the defensive side of the ball. 736 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: So I don't you know, they're also nine million dollars 737 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: over the cap, so I feel like, you know, spending 738 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,399 Speaker 1: on skill position guys in free agency probably a luxury that. 739 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 3: The one, because like you said, literally their whole line 740 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 3: all their starters on offense are coming back, their defense 741 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 3: is filled with free agents. 742 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 2: But the one. 743 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,240 Speaker 3: Offensive question is David Montgomery, because there was some smoke 744 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 3: this week from the Combine that he could be kind 745 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 3: of wanting a new home because of how they they 746 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 3: leaned on Gibbs more and more down the stretch, and 747 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 3: also his cat. He's he's about nine million dollars he's 748 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 3: going to cost this year, so that could be a 749 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 3: way to free some money. I want it to happen 750 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 3: only because I think bjon and Gibbs are going to 751 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 3: be tied for their whole career. And if we could 752 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,439 Speaker 3: get a whole summer where Tyler ELL's year and David 753 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 3: Montgomery are now removed from the equations and you get 754 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 3: to just argue Bijeon versus Gibbs, that to me is 755 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 3: going to be a ton of fun. So that's selfishly 756 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 3: what I'm rooting for. 757 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be okay with that. 758 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: I like it when we have years a week it's 759 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: sort of debate who is the number one pick, because yeah, 760 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 1: you know, it feels like there have been more often 761 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: than that over the last few years. There's just been 762 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: the consensus number one, and then you know, I don't know. 763 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: It's just not fun to argue because then you get 764 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 1: people who are kind of galaxy braining the whole thing 765 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,439 Speaker 1: about who should be a number one pick, and that's 766 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 1: equally not fun when you're just making up reasons. 767 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 3: I'm seeing it now, right, one of us champion for Bijeon, 768 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 3: the other for Gibbs, and then there's LQB and like 769 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 3: it should be poker. 770 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,919 Speaker 2: It's poker, right. 771 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: We already know where he is planted his flag, So 772 00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: now it's just up to you and I to you know, 773 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: kind of figure out the rest of it. 774 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. 775 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:08,280 Speaker 1: That gets us to the Vikings, which headline this week. 776 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 1: The Vikings will quote explore every opportunity at quarterback this 777 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: offseason with JJ McCarthy still in the mix. I read that, 778 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: and I think they are done done with JJ McCarthy. 779 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: If they are, If there are here a couple of 780 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: years into it and they're saying they're exploring every option 781 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: at quarterback, I don't know, Mike, that seems to me 782 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: that the Vikings are like, Okay, this is just not working. 783 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: This guy is not who we thought he who was. 784 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: He's not working out. We got to figure out a 785 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: contingency plan. 786 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 3: And if you read the tea leaves up until this point, 787 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,760 Speaker 3: it very much indicates that they're done right. Like Koc 788 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 3: we have found out did not want to draft JJ McCarthy. 789 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 3: He did not want to start JJ McCarthy. It was 790 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 3: the then GM at the time who got fired. I 791 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 3: would argue because of JJ McCarthy. Would shout out to 792 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 3: the forty Niners, by the way, because anytime someone leaves 793 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,720 Speaker 3: and they go and they get fired there the Niners 794 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 3: are like, welcome back, buddy, Come on, Yeah, it's such 795 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 3: a it must be such a good feeling, knowing like, well, 796 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,240 Speaker 3: if I strike out on my own, Kyle's gonna welcome 797 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 3: me back with open eyes. But uh yeah. And then 798 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 3: on top of all of that, right Jay uh Jefferson's 799 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,240 Speaker 3: comments of being like if I had a better quarterback, 800 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 3: I would put up better numbers stuff like that, Like 801 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 3: they they kind of threw him right under the bus 802 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 3: and then reversed it back, so like I would be 803 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 3: very surprised. I wouldn't be shocked if they go into 804 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 3: next year where they can't battle for JJ. But I 805 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 3: think if they could get a Kyler Murray, They're gonna 806 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 3: strike on that or someone where they know, Okay, it's 807 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,760 Speaker 3: not even a battle, like we're starting this guy over JJ. 808 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 3: But I'm gonna say it again, JJ for Richardson right, 809 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 3: Like JJ I just feels like more of a Daniel 810 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 3: Jones backup than Anthony Richardson does. And then Richardson gets 811 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 3: a and to the place that's helped develop a lot 812 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 3: of young quarterbacks. 813 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: Oh, he was gonna be upset that you're pushing his guy, 814 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: Riley Leonard out of. 815 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 2: The equation here because he loves Riley Leonard. He loves 816 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 2: Riley Leonard, don't. 817 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily understand it, but yeah, he's a big 818 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: Riley Leonard guy. 819 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 2: I'm not seeing it. 820 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 3: Look, Riley could beat out JJ potentially to be the 821 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 3: number two, I. 822 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 2: Mean could be sure. 823 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 1: The other part of this for the Vikings, they're forty 824 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 1: two million dollars over the cap. In fact, every team 825 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 1: in the NFC North right now is over the cap. 826 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 2: To varying degrees. 827 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,439 Speaker 1: Forty two million makes it really hard to do things 828 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: in free agency. So I do think if they're really 829 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: looking to explore the quarterback situation, it is likely a trade, 830 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,879 Speaker 1: but it also involves you know, restructuring, letting guys go. 831 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 1: So I think they would love to be in on 832 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 1: a guy like Kyler Murray seeing what they could do 833 00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 1: with Kyler. 834 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,760 Speaker 2: You know, it's just not very hard. 835 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 3: The only way I think it works is if he 836 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 3: Kyler does a Russ right where he's like, the Cardinals 837 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 3: are already paying me a bunch of money, I'll sign 838 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 3: for the minimum here. 839 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that that could possibly work. I would, 840 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 1: I think for sure. But otherwise, if he's just looking 841 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: to still get paid paid, then that probably doesn't work there. 842 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 3: I don't know if you just saw the text that 843 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 3: just came in. No, the context, it's like he's watching 844 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 3: sucks On, missing Florial's excitement for Anthony Richardson, possibly on 845 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 3: the move. 846 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 2: Now I'm checking. I'm checking the streamyard. No, he's not. 847 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 1: He's not here unless he's, you know, masquerading as Kyrie. 848 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 2: That's wild. That is wild that he pops in. 849 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: So Lakwana actually is on the show today in his 850 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: own special way. The other thing the Vikings really need, though, 851 00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: they do need a running back that feels like one 852 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 1: that you know, they could possibly address that without breaking 853 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: the bank necessarily. 854 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:08,399 Speaker 2: You know, I don't think they. 855 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: I don't think they chase a traves etn I mean, 856 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: would you try to make it work with like Najee 857 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: Harris because the number that Nag's gonna sign for is 858 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: going to be less than what he got last year? 859 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 1: Do you pursue a JK. Dobbins h Kenneth Gainwell? 860 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 2: Maybe? 861 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 1: But I think I think there are ways to sort 862 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: of address that need and do it in a pretty 863 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: economical way. 864 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:35,319 Speaker 3: Is for the Vikings, right? 865 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 2: Yeah? 866 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 3: For the Vikings, Yeah, because they they I think it's 867 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 3: a very good chance that they move on from Aaron 868 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:46,319 Speaker 3: Jones this offense. He is so expensive. But you mentioned 869 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 3: Kenneth Gainwell. That was gonna be the name I threw 870 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 3: out there because I think Jordan Mason, And look, I'm 871 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:53,839 Speaker 3: not going to say I'm the highest guy on him 872 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:54,359 Speaker 3: here because we all. 873 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 2: Know that, we all know, we all know who that is, right. 874 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 3: But Jordan Mason is a very good runner. I don't 875 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 3: think he is a great dual threat back, but just 876 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 3: as a pure like first and second down short yard stuff, 877 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 3: I think Jordan Mason could get you covered there. And 878 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 3: then I think Kenneth Gainwell, who isn't necessarily the best runner, 879 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 3: is a fantastic weapon in the passing game, So you 880 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 3: kind of splice it together. With those two, I think 881 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 3: you could have a very productive backfield without having to 882 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 3: invest a whole lot of money. Like, look, it's not 883 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 3: my dream backfield, but in this situation, it works. Yeah. 884 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's probably fair because I don't 885 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 1: think they give up fully on Jordan Mason, but I 886 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: do think they've learned that he's not the guy that's 887 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: going to carry the offense. He could be good in spurts, 888 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 1: but he also kind of has a limited ceiling for them. 889 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,760 Speaker 1: So I think finally a compliment to him is probably 890 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 1: the best thing that you can do. Honestly, wouldn't be 891 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: surprised if the Vikings even wait a while you talk 892 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,800 Speaker 1: about them the Broncos signing JK. 893 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 2: Dobbins later in the offseason. 894 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:03,399 Speaker 1: If I'm the Vikings, I wait, right, Maybe I look 895 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 1: and see who's available in free agency. I go through 896 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 1: the draft, I see who maybe we can get there, 897 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 1: and then if we don't get a guy we like 898 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 1: in the draft, we go back because they're probably going 899 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,240 Speaker 1: to be some free agent running backs still hanging around 900 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: in May and June that you can add and have 901 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,320 Speaker 1: them be that complimentary piece for your backfield. So I 902 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: think that's very much a possibility there. I think that's 903 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: kind of in for the Vikings. I mean, quarterback I 904 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 1: think is the biggest thing, oh one thing. 905 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 2: Like you know, maybe we'll wait till Kwan's. 906 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,840 Speaker 1: Back because I know he texted us that he was 907 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 1: in a Best Ball draft where Justin Jefferson went with 908 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: the eighth pick in the second round, and that I 909 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: think is heavily heavily tied to the quarterback situation there, 910 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 1: And you know, I think that's that's a conversation that 911 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: I think we should definitely have, but we'll wait till 912 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 1: the Q is back from that one. The Packers, most 913 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 1: of their needs are on defense. Big need is basically 914 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 1: for Micah Parsons to get healthy. I think that goes 915 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: a long long way. They're four million dollars over the cap. 916 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 1: Do they need I hate to say this out loud, 917 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 1: do they need to add another wide receiver? I know 918 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: Romeo Dobbs is probably on the move somewhere else. Christian 919 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,840 Speaker 1: Watson was very good last year. Matthew Golden had a 920 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 1: big playoff game, But like, I don't know, Dantavian Wicks 921 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 1: doesn't really do much. You know, Bo Melton is a 922 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 1: part time wide receiver, part time cornerback. He's he's I 923 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 1: don't even call him Timu Travis Hunter because I don't 924 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,439 Speaker 1: think that's that's even accurate enough. 925 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 3: He doesn't get enough love though for what he does. 926 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:39,879 Speaker 2: Well. 927 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 1: It's funny because every time they used him as a 928 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 1: wide receiver and he drops a pass, I just see 929 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 1: Packers fans grumbling about why would you put a corner 930 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 1: on the field in this situation? 931 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:50,800 Speaker 3: Can't catch? 932 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,839 Speaker 1: Basically, it's kind of what that is. So, I mean, 933 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 1: I know we have spent the last few years bemoaning 934 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 1: the fact that the Packers have too many wide receivers 935 00:45:58,960 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: and we can't figure it out. 936 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 2: But now it feels like, I don't know. 937 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 1: I mean, unless we believe in Matthew Golden to take 938 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 1: the leap next year, maybe they. 939 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 2: Need another wide receiver. It's a compliment Christian Watson. 940 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 3: I think they're going to be very hopeful that Matthew 941 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 3: Golden could take that next step. I also still really 942 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 3: like Jayden Reid. I know he's a little limited in 943 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 3: like how you can use him, but I still think 944 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 3: he can be an effective NFL wide receiver, and like 945 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 3: him and Watson and Golden on paper with Wicks mixed 946 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,920 Speaker 3: in there, like that should be four good ones. I 947 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised if they invest in another receiver, but 948 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 3: I would be shocked if it's a lofty investment, you know, 949 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 3: Like I don't think their biggest free agent signing or 950 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 3: their first or second round pick are probably going to 951 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 3: be a receiver. But because also they have two of 952 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 3: their starting O linemen are free agents this year, so 953 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 3: I think if anything on offense, that is your biggest priority, 954 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,880 Speaker 3: trying to get your line right. They also need a 955 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,240 Speaker 3: backup quarterback, right, I don't know if you feel comfortable 956 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 3: with just desney Ri or there. So the offensive side 957 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 3: of the things for the Packers, outside of the rebuilding 958 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 3: your line, because your left tackle and your right guard 959 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 3: potentially leaving is hard to replace. You can't just like 960 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 3: string that together. But the rest of it, I think 961 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,720 Speaker 3: are more like minor moves. Like you know, they tweak 962 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 3: it a little bit here we bring in this body 963 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,279 Speaker 3: for depth at receivers something like that, But for the 964 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,360 Speaker 3: most part, I think they drafted Matthew gold In a 965 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,320 Speaker 3: year in advance, being like, you're going to take Romeo 966 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,439 Speaker 3: Dobbs role in our offense when Romeo Dobbs eventually leaves 967 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:32,439 Speaker 3: next year as a free agent. 968 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's not things like they've they're pretty. 969 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,359 Speaker 1: Much set on Dobbs not coming back. I think they're 970 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,360 Speaker 1: going to try and work with what they have is 971 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 1: sort of build from there. Look, they spent the first 972 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,239 Speaker 1: round pick on Matthew Golden, so he's going to get 973 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 1: at least another couple of years to just figure things 974 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: out there. 975 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 3: It is so Packers that they finally used the first 976 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 3: round pick on a receiver and then it's one of 977 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 3: the worst production to the first round even years. 978 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess you know, see, at least you tried 979 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 1: what it is. Look, I know people still aren't giving 980 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,359 Speaker 1: up on Matthew Golden, and that makes sense. It's only 981 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,120 Speaker 1: been one year. I will tell you that, at least 982 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,400 Speaker 1: from a fantasy perspective, I'm out until I see something 983 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,879 Speaker 1: from him on a consistent basis. So Christian Watson, though, 984 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm in Christia Watson, I'm very much in on. He's 985 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 1: probably the only Packers receiver I'm really in on this year. 986 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, Golden, I'm sort of out there, so it 987 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 1: takes us to the Bears. They are also over the 988 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,359 Speaker 1: cap about nine and a half million. 989 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 2: I saw. 990 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 1: I was looking around people saying, one of the needs 991 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 1: is tight end. I'm going to assume that that's a 992 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,240 Speaker 1: blocking tight end. You need maybe more of an inlined, 993 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,920 Speaker 1: inline guy who can contribute in the running game, because 994 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,680 Speaker 1: I think I think Colston Lovelin is it. I think 995 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 1: what we saw from him in the back half of 996 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 1: the season forecasts him really taking off next year. So 997 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 1: I think in terms of a pass catching tight end, 998 00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 1: I don't think that's it. I think it's more of 999 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:00,400 Speaker 1: a blocking tight end. 1000 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 3: Still got cole Comet too. 1001 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,400 Speaker 1: They do have cole Comet, where I think it's just 1002 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 1: going to be a fly in the ointment. What I'm 1003 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 1: worried is that cole Comet is going to do to 1004 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,840 Speaker 1: Colston Loveland what Jimmy Graham did to cole Comet a 1005 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. 1006 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 2: I hope not where. 1007 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,360 Speaker 1: Every week on either on the podcast or on Fantasy 1008 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,879 Speaker 1: Live or in the Sleepers column, I was touting cole 1009 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 1: Comet because all of the metrics, the you know, the 1010 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 1: targets per route run, the snaps, all this stuff was 1011 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,720 Speaker 1: saying Cole Comet is a worthwhile play, and then Jimmy 1012 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 1: Graham would catch a touchdown when they got in the 1013 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 1: red zone. It just got hard to kind of keep 1014 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,919 Speaker 1: banging on that drum for a while. And I don't 1015 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 1: want this to happen to Colston Loveland. 1016 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,319 Speaker 2: So that's my that's my worry. 1017 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,600 Speaker 3: The one thing they do look at at his bow 1018 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 3: track page right now, they do have an out this 1019 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,680 Speaker 3: year if they want to take it, and he is 1020 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,279 Speaker 3: I mean eleven million dollars almost twelve million dollars for 1021 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,400 Speaker 3: cap hit for a tight end two. That feels like 1022 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:00,800 Speaker 3: he could be a cap casualty. 1023 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I could definitely see that happening. Also, Durham's 1024 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,320 Speaker 1: smythe for what it's worth, is a free agent, so 1025 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:11,359 Speaker 1: they could sort of revamp the tight end room there 1026 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:12,160 Speaker 1: in Chicago. 1027 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 2: Do they need another wide receiver? You know, Keenan Allen. 1028 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,799 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously Keenan Allen's gone. Not Keenan Allen, who 1029 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,840 Speaker 2: am I? But Luther Burden. 1030 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 1: DJ more could be gone. I don't know why I'm 1031 00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 1: stuck in twenty twenty four talking about Keenan Allen I 1032 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:35,000 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier that's exactly where my brain went. At this point, 1033 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 1: DJ More could be gone. The Luther Burden hype train 1034 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 1: is several miles down the road already. Romo Dunes faded 1035 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,839 Speaker 1: badly in the second half of the season. Do they 1036 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 1: need to add a piece at wide receiver or do 1037 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 1: we believe that they can sort of figure it out 1038 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 1: with the pieces they have. 1039 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,320 Speaker 3: I think they're gonna need to add a depth receiver, 1040 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,320 Speaker 3: like like a wide receiver three or something like that, 1041 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,360 Speaker 3: because I look, I loved him as a prospect. I 1042 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,480 Speaker 3: am super bullish on Luther Burden. I think, just like 1043 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 3: Cole Comet, we saw the youth takeover last year as 1044 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 3: they gave Burden more. And I know he's one of 1045 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,879 Speaker 3: those players Marcus that I think if you just look 1046 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,880 Speaker 3: at the box score, you're doing the disservice. He had 1047 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,919 Speaker 3: a couple of big games where he popped here or there, 1048 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,239 Speaker 3: but watch what he can do, and to me, he 1049 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 3: just seems like a weapon that Ben Johnson is going 1050 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 3: to design one hundred and twenty plays for it this year, 1051 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:34,040 Speaker 3: you know, like like I just think him and commit 1052 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,200 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if the offense runs through those 1053 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,720 Speaker 3: two guys next year. There there's also rome with Dunesday. 1054 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,040 Speaker 3: Though it's feeling more and more likely that DJ Moore 1055 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 3: is going to be gone because his cap hit isn't crazy, 1056 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,400 Speaker 3: and on top of that, they have a lot of 1057 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,479 Speaker 3: younger pieces here that they are excited for and let's 1058 00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:00,360 Speaker 3: not forget right. Like I was the person that was like, 1059 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,360 Speaker 3: this camp rumor doesn't matter, right, Like the whole they 1060 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 3: can't figure out how to get DJ Moore the ball thing, 1061 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 3: I was like, that's a camp thing, Ben, trust me, 1062 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,239 Speaker 3: Ben Johnson's going to know how to get DJ Moore 1063 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,840 Speaker 3: the ball. And then there's a large chunk of the 1064 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,840 Speaker 3: season Marcus where they didn't know how to get j 1065 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 3: he was playing on the backfield. They're throwing him screen 1066 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 3: passes like so the fact that his cap I mean, 1067 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 3: it's a little bit higher, but it's not huge anymore. So, 1068 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,880 Speaker 3: Like I think there's a good look. Bills fans are 1069 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,320 Speaker 3: already clamoring like DJ Mohr, go get him. Like I 1070 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,360 Speaker 3: do think DJ Moore is going to be one of 1071 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 3: the bigger headline names that we see get traded. But 1072 00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,040 Speaker 3: I don't think that means they bring in another star 1073 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 3: wide receiver. I think there it means more that they 1074 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,399 Speaker 3: have a lot of confidence in those two young pass 1075 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,440 Speaker 3: catchers that we saw breakout in their rookie year. 1076 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that's that's probably more accurate. 1077 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm trying to think of some guys that 1078 00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:00,239 Speaker 1: would be interesting sort of complimentary pieces is. 1079 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:05,960 Speaker 2: There and you know ah, I mean Alex Pearce is 1080 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,799 Speaker 2: probably going to be more than what they want or need. 1081 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,279 Speaker 2: I think in terms of what he's gonna come, I 1082 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,080 Speaker 2: think he's salary wise, He's don't get paid for sure. 1083 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 2: I don't know that Rashid Shaheed leaves. I don't. I don't. 1084 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:18,759 Speaker 1: If I'm Seattle, I don't let Rashid shi Heat out 1085 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,319 Speaker 1: of the building because he you know, he's a big 1086 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 1: play guy. He also does a lot for you on 1087 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 1: special teams. 1088 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 2: I don't know, Like. 1089 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 1: What is Christian Kirk's future going to be. You know, 1090 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:37,879 Speaker 1: he's not gonna get the big numbs. He's not gonna 1091 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 1: get a big contract that he got you know before. 1092 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,399 Speaker 1: Like I you know, I still know what his future 1093 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:43,080 Speaker 1: is at this point. 1094 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,880 Speaker 3: You talk about the Ravens eating a wide receiver, deebo 1095 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:47,759 Speaker 3: is one that just screams Ravens to me. 1096 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Deebo could be sort of like the new and 1097 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:56,640 Speaker 1: Kwon Bolden, you know, you know, yeah, Christian Kirk is 1098 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,640 Speaker 1: kind of a mystery to me because, you know, he 1099 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,239 Speaker 1: had a couple of really good He had that one 1100 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,800 Speaker 1: really good year in Jacksonville when we all laughed like 1101 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 1: why are the Jacks spending that much money on him? 1102 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 1: And then he went and balled out. We're like, all right, 1103 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,919 Speaker 1: well I'll shut up now. But he hasn't come close 1104 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:17,680 Speaker 1: to anything like that since. And last year there were 1105 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,120 Speaker 1: times I literally had to look on the roster and 1106 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,640 Speaker 1: be like, oh, yeah, Christian Kirk is still there in Houston. 1107 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,239 Speaker 3: Then he killed the Steelers in the playoffs. So it's like, 1108 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,759 Speaker 3: it's weird because I still think he's he's got some 1109 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,360 Speaker 3: game left. I look, I know we're way past the Ravens, 1110 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,879 Speaker 3: but Mark's Brown also feels like another name. They could 1111 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:39,520 Speaker 3: just Hollywood Miami boys with Lamar obviously already played together, Like, yeah, 1112 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:41,839 Speaker 3: I could see him going back there as well. 1113 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 2: That'd be interesting. 1114 00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, He's another one who just it never quite handed 1115 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,600 Speaker 1: out the way we hoped. 1116 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:50,840 Speaker 2: It would with his career. 1117 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,040 Speaker 1: But maybe maybe you reunite him back in Greg whorre 1118 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,400 Speaker 1: he started in Baltimore. I haven't played with with the 1119 00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 1: Great Dorch Sweepstakes. 1120 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:00,400 Speaker 3: Kwan. 1121 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna He's gonna hype him up wherever he goes. 1122 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,480 Speaker 2: I mean maybe that's not a terrible thing for the Bears. 1123 00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, or does he does he sort of 1124 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:13,800 Speaker 1: crowd out Burden what they want to do with Burden. 1125 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,480 Speaker 3: I could see Greg George going there because he could 1126 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 3: play in line, he could play out wide. He's not 1127 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,759 Speaker 3: someone that obviously needs a ton of touches. He's more 1128 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,399 Speaker 3: just like here or there. But when he gets the ball, 1129 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 3: he tends to do a lot with it. I know 1130 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:29,879 Speaker 3: the Kwan wants him to go somewhere where he could 1131 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,799 Speaker 3: get a much bigger role, but I he might be typecasting. 1132 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think at this point he is who he is. 1133 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 1: What about Juwan Jennings in Chicago? I I like. 1134 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 3: The only reason I don't like it is because I 1135 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,920 Speaker 3: think it would ding everyone else's fantasy value there. But 1136 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,239 Speaker 3: I think from a real life standpoint he fits very 1137 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,160 Speaker 3: well there. He can move roll around the field. He's 1138 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:54,759 Speaker 3: not someone you have to like throw the ball to 1139 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,960 Speaker 3: ten times a game, but. 1140 00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:58,440 Speaker 1: Every now and then you do throw him the ball 1141 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,200 Speaker 1: ten times a game because it sort of works out. Yeah, 1142 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,960 Speaker 1: all right, interesting, there we go. That's the North divisions, 1143 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:11,320 Speaker 1: remember the North AFC and the NFC. Next week we 1144 00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,959 Speaker 1: will continue this with the accordingly, the South and West 1145 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 1: divisions on Tuesday and Thursday next week as we get 1146 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 1: you ready for free agency. But in the meantime, that'll 1147 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 1: do it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. 1148 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,239 Speaker 1: They happy, stave in, healthy, do good, and live well. 1149 00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 1: Enjoy the weekend everybody. We will talk to you on Tuesday. 1150 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:30,439 Speaker 2: Wow.