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Speaker 2: game week, dog. It is week one, game week. How

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Speaker 2: Week one is afoot. We've got our preview content baking

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Speaker 1: I'm not making that pick. I'm just saying in terms

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Speaker 1: It's also why you need to have an altar of

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Speaker 2: There is an advanced risk of hurting your shoulder reaching

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Speaker 1: No, I hear you. I mean, as somebody who knows

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the big one for me that we do need

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Speaker 2: What he's decided is that Caid McNamara and JJ McCarthy

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Speaker 2: We don't know what happens after this. My assumption is

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Speaker 1: You ever noticed ty that after somebody says something and

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Speaker 1: because this is a sport in which wrong decisions are

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Speaker 2: of note, Auburn Auburn, the Calzada Armada has taken on

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Speaker 1: In, he's not going to start.

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Speaker 2: TJ Finley, all six seven, two fifty of them we

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Speaker 2: In the number of times that the announcers refer to TJ.

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Speaker 2: It has now won the job for Brian Harson and

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Speaker 1: ragged him. That's the kind of last year. So who

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Speaker 1: knows what we would have from a fully healthy Zach Calzada.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, we kind of know what we have in TJ. Finley,

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Speaker 1: big arm, athletic ability, a big fella, don't forget a

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Speaker 1: big fella dude. Yeah. I don't think the big dudes

439
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Speaker 1: will get as much attention for their size as like

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Speaker 1: an especially little dude like Deuce Vaughan's size will come

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Speaker 1: up more than TJ. Finley's size. In Kansas, Tate games

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Speaker 1: and in TJ. Finley's Auburn games. But yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: think expectations are particularly enormous. But a surprise call, I

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Speaker 1: mean Haines King, I think was I think that was

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Speaker 1: from the outside a little bit more of a back

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Speaker 1: and forth battle, given you know the high profile nature

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Speaker 1: of Max Johnson transferring to to A and M yep.

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Speaker 2: Sam khn Junior who we had on this show, Sam

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Speaker 2: kN Junior from the Athletic who was on this show

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Speaker 2: back in April while we were doing our spring snapshots series,

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Speaker 2: he spoke at length about Jimbo's fascination with Haines King

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Speaker 2: and just if you project forward some of what Jimbo

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Speaker 2: said about Haines King last year when he named him

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Speaker 2: starter before the injury, that would bode well for his

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Speaker 2: chances to again recapture that number one spot. He has

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Speaker 2: done that, So he's getting a nod ahead of Max Johnson,

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Speaker 2: ahead of Connor Wegman, both of whom per Jimbo can

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Speaker 2: run the offense effectively, who look good in spring camp.

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Speaker 2: But he obviously likes what he has with Haines King

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Speaker 2: much more of a dual threat guy than someone like

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Speaker 2: a Max Johnson Haines King can definitely be more on

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Speaker 2: the go outside the pocket and give this offense an

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Speaker 2: extra dynamic. So I'm curious to see what he can

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Speaker 2: do healthy. I hope he stays healthy. Certainly with all

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Speaker 2: the talent they've got in College Station, it could be

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Speaker 2: an exciting new chapter for that program.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think more than anything this year is on

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Speaker 1: Jimbo in the offensive staff and the aggression that they

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Speaker 1: do don't show, because if we are to believe Haines

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Speaker 1: King is at least pretty good now, he's won that

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Speaker 1: job twice, so the offensive staff believes in him. The

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Speaker 1: offensive line should be good, that they return a bunch

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Speaker 1: inside on that line. Receivers should be better than it's

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Speaker 1: been probably at all times they're in the duration of

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Speaker 1: Jimbo's tenure. There just the youth and the experience and

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Speaker 1: running back slash slot back should be in a really

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Speaker 1: good place. And so it almost feels like this is

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Speaker 1: fully on the offensive minds behind this team more so

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Speaker 1: than the actual talent, more than ever, because if there's

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Speaker 1: been a criticism of Texas A and M's offense these

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Speaker 1: past few years, it's they're not maximizing what they could

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Speaker 1: be because of the conservative nature of some of the

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Speaker 1: play calling, and so this to me, I think the

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Speaker 1: spotlight is on Jimbo and the staff more so than

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Speaker 1: it is on Haines King and the players around him.

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Speaker 2: In last, but certainly not least, my man a Southern

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Speaker 2: Brian Kelly says, he knows I love this, he knows

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Speaker 2: who he's picking.

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Speaker 1: But he's keeping it secret. That's okay.

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Speaker 2: It's a tactical advantage to not announce it in advance, which,

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Speaker 2: by the way, I kind of agree with. This is

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Speaker 2: like your one shot to keep a lid on it

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Speaker 2: on it why not? But here is where it gets

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Speaker 2: into the full fledged Brian Kelly quarterback controversy territory that

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Speaker 2: I want, that I need, that I crave. Quote, this

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Speaker 2: is not a one and two Kelly said, And both

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Speaker 2: of them act are obviously excuse me, both of them

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Speaker 2: are obviously going to contribute this year. Leaving that door open. Man,

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Speaker 2: He's leaving that door open for the full Like lased

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Speaker 2: potato chip, can't pick just one approach to selecting your quarterback.

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Speaker 2: He's leaving that door open. I'm telling you, lsu fans,

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Speaker 2: it will happen. There will be controversy, whether it short

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Speaker 2: of one of these guys coming in, whether it's Garrett

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Speaker 2: us Meyer or Jaden Daniels coming in and being a

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Speaker 2: full fledged dynamo running that system, the Mike den Brock

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Speaker 2: offensive system. Short of that, there will be a moment

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Speaker 2: this season where there is a controversy about who the

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Speaker 2: starter should be. I guarantee it.

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Speaker 1: It's not a good fantasy thing because it doesn't happen

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Speaker 1: all season long, but it's an incredible camp fantasy thing

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Speaker 1: to select. I really do think we have two guys

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Speaker 1: who could run this offense. I really do think both guys.

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Speaker 1: I think we're lucky that we're fortunate to have two

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Speaker 1: three guys that we really feel good about. That's a

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Speaker 1: really quality fantasy thing. I think it's gonna be nus Meyer.

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Speaker 1: I think he will have that opportunity. But yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I mean, both of these guys are pocket passers. It's

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Speaker 1: not like you are preparing for one guy running the

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Speaker 1: option and one guy you know, behaving like Drew Bledsoe

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Speaker 1: or something. They're going to run the same offense with

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Speaker 1: both of these guys, and so I don't. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how Florida State would be better prepared, unless you

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Speaker 1: feel like Jaden Daniels's seasoning means he will be confused

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Speaker 1: used less by defenses and that you can sort of

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Speaker 1: throw things at Garrett and Nusmeyer that might throw them off.

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Speaker 1: But no, I think either way, either one of these

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Speaker 1: guys will probably succeed to a respectable level in Week

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Speaker 1: one against Florida State. But uh yeah, why name somebody?

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Speaker 1: Why name a starter if you don't have to, if

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Speaker 1: you're not forced to, and if the team is okay

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Speaker 1: with it, I just don't want to be Week one,

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Speaker 1: we're starting this guy. Week two, we're starting that guy.

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Speaker 1: I think that's dumb. But if if you're going to

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Speaker 1: your team behind closed doors and saying, this is our guy,

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Speaker 1: let's go, let's ride, I'm okay with it. I am

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Speaker 1: okay with it.

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Speaker 2: Let's see how it materialized.

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Speaker 1: Did you like paton Ardoozy naming West Virginia's starting quarterback

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Speaker 1: at the backyard brawl. He's like, I'm gonna save you

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Speaker 1: all a lot of time. It's JT. Daniels.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I like that, Like a spicy Paton

542
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Speaker 2: Ardoozy is just what we need.

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Speaker 1: Calling out Mark Whipple calling out USC and Lincoln Riley

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Speaker 1: making light of Neil Brown saying, oh, we'll see what

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Speaker 1: we do with JT. Daniels came in as a transfer.

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Speaker 1: I've enjoyed the patn ar doozy off season.

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Speaker 2: Being a slightly more grounded, more controversial as it relates

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Speaker 2: to college football version of Mike Leach up North. That'll

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Speaker 2: play in Pittsburgh, by the way, that'll play well in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: The deep nerdiness in college football is getting pumped like

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Speaker 1: you did about Drew a Lara being named the backup

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Speaker 1: the race for number two. You were all in, true

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Speaker 1: true backup potentially better than the starter territory here. Yeah truly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm a Penn State grad swam. I

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Speaker 2: know a little bit biased, but yeah, that is the

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Speaker 2: deep cut that really Yet the juice is flowing.

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Speaker 1: Oregon is not named its starter at quarterback, presumed to

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Speaker 1: be Bo Nicks and Kirby Smart. In his I think

559
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Speaker 1: opening weak presser said I know who it's gonna be. Okay,

560
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Speaker 1: you guys can have I know who it's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, Oregon didn't officially name anybody. I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: think of other high profile programs who haven't named anybody

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Speaker 1: or Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: Haven't seen Cincinnati yet, that'll be interesting. There has been

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Speaker 2: some curious line movement that we will discuss on our

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Speaker 2: preview show tomorrow about that Cincinnati Arkansas game. Very much

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Speaker 2: flying under the radar, Dan, They're wait for it. There

568
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Speaker 2: are a bunch of really big games in Week one.

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Arkansas not getting the press that I believe it should.

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Speaker 1: And we'll discuss a little bit more why that is

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Speaker 1: on the next episode. All right, are there any other

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Speaker 1: high profile quarterback positions races? Has TCU named the starter?

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Speaker 1: TCU has not.

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Speaker 2: They've said that they might play all three in game one, which.

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Speaker 1: Is three guys we think can run this offense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definite fantasy thing for next year. Shout out to Chris,

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Speaker 2: to Kale, to Andrew, to Dan Rehder, Folks who are

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Speaker 2: watching along live as we do this here after further

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Speaker 2: review episode We're going to dive in to our game

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Speaker 2: after further review, but it is brought to you today.

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Speaker 2: Why are good friends over at college football Thursdays?

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Speaker 1: Dan's yes, Yeah, we are the friends. We are the

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be doing Tie versus the World with other picks.

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Speaker 1: Now that I assure you I'll get right.

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Speaker 2: Don't worry playing games doing the thing that we did

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Speaker 2: last Thursday. We would invite everybody to come on in.

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Speaker 2: You can listen, it's free, you can join the chat,

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Speaker 1: Soliverbal dot com, slash Spotify, Soliverbal dot com slash Spotify.

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Speaker 1: That's right, thank you, Dan. After further review, give me

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Speaker 1: that sound please. Having said that, yes, let me say

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Speaker 1: this right right, that's from Seinfeld, right curb curb. That

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Speaker 1: was Larry David and Jerry Seinfeld. But yes, I did.

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Speaker 1: What is this game? So we previewed a ton of teams,

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Speaker 1: all of the Power five conferences, all of the G

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Speaker 1: five conferences, most of the independence, but we didn't go

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Speaker 1: deep into the independence. But what did we discuss? Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame BYU an army army Yep, yeah, I think that's

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Speaker 1: what we hit on in terms of independence. And now

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Speaker 1: we've had the opportunity because we recorded it a few

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Speaker 1: weeks ago to sort of let our opinions marinate, to

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Speaker 1: let our opinions dry age or wet age or whatever

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Speaker 1: evaluations to be beef cuts of meat, cuts of meat,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't recommend aging all different cuts of meat. Certain

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Speaker 1: ones are better than others. So we're just gonna look

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Speaker 1: and say, okay, we are updating. Maybe it's based on

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Speaker 1: who is named quarterback or wasn't named quarterback. Maybe it's

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Speaker 1: based on injuries. Maybe it's based on just a nagging

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Speaker 1: feeling in our guts that we didn't nail what we

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Speaker 1: now feel about a certain team. So are there teams

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Speaker 1: that we feel like we want to update our opinions on.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's because we thought about their schedule a little

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Speaker 1: bit more. Maybe it's because in retrospect, maybe they won

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Speaker 1: too many games by one or two points last year,

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Speaker 1: and we don't think that kind of winning style can

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Speaker 1: hold up two years in a row. Is there anybody

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Speaker 1: or anybody's that you want to update your evaluation of.

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Speaker 2: I've got four teams here, Okay, four teams that I

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Speaker 2: previewed as part of our ten part preview series, which,

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Speaker 2: by the way, if you're listening to this and the

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Speaker 2: run up to week one, you can still go back

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Speaker 2: and listen to all of those. It's free bingjam. Maybe

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Speaker 2: got some travel, maybe you're at work, throw in your headphones,

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Speaker 2: give it a listen, and get yourself up to speed.

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Speaker 2: I think most of what we had to say is

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Speaker 2: still fairly accurate, but I did want to offer some

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Speaker 2: further clarity on some of the points that I brought up.

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Speaker 2: There are some situations, not necessarily teams that I suddenly dislike,

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Speaker 2: you know, we don't have a whole lot to go on,

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Speaker 2: but there are some I think interesting wrinkles. Now the

648
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 2: Michigan one which we discussed earlier, I'll bring that one

649
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 2: up as well, but interesting wrinkles that maybe give me

650
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 2: more confidence, less confidence, that sort of thing as we

651
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: go through here, totally. Okay, Who's who's number one? Let's

652
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 2: start with Baylor. They were on my list. Good, Well,

653
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 2: I'm glad. I'm glad Baylor's on here. How do you

654
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: feel about Baylor? Do you feel better or worse about Baylor?

655
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: Because I feel like with what I said, that was

656
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 2: construed as oh TI hates Baylor, right, which is not

657
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 2: really what I was going for, because I still think

658
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 2: this will be a good team, if only because they're

659
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 2: going to be very solid in the trenches, and when

660
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 2: you've got a good coach, that's a good place to start. Well,

661
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 2: my comments on Baylor were construed as Baylor hate, not

662
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: what I was going for. And I think the reason

663
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 2: that I was down on Baylor and still am to

664
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 2: some extent is because I just feel like there are

665
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 2: so many key positions where we don't have answers. It

666
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: doesn't mean they won't have answers. I just don't know

667
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: what they are right now.

668
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm a little bit more down on Baylor myself

669
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: than I think I I was on the preview, because

670
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: I've talked about Baylor as potentially being one of those

671
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: wildcard next new playoff teams, not this year necessarily, but

672
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: with a potentially interesting Dave vern defense, and they have

673
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 1: an All American candidate at KNOWS this year in Apuwika.

674
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: The LSU transfer there. It's intriguing to me Baylor in

675
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: the medium term this year. The number of new things

676
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: worries me, and the number of times that they had

677
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: to come back or sneak away with a win late,

678
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: or lost something dumb in the way that they did

679
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: in the revival rate of TC, who still won the conference.

680
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: I just think that there is going to be a

681
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: little bit of balance this year. That they could still

682
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: go nine and three, eight and four, but I don't

683
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: see them contending at the end of the year for

684
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve championship game.

685
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: I would define myself as a Baylor skeptic. Okay, a

686
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: Baylor skeptic. They've got a new full time quarterback who

687
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 2: we like, Blake Shapin.

688
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: I think I like them more than Yeah, we like him.

689
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: I think he definitely gives them more upside. He flashed

690
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 2: at moments last season. But they need to replace Abram Smith,

691
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 2: who was crazy productive at running back. You look, I

692
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 2: know what you're gonna say, Oh, well, you can replace

693
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 2: a running back in place the running back. You can

694
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: replace a running back. Don't disagree with that. There's a

695
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 2: lot of production walking out the door, right, a lot

696
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 2: of production walking out the door. We'll see what they

697
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: can do. Two starting wide receivers need to be replaced.

698
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 2: Terrell Bernard at linebacker who was a big deal. And

699
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 2: Jalen Petrie at the star position. It was a big

700
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 2: deal in that defense. He was a Big Twelve Defensive

701
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 2: Player of the Year. That is a lot to walk

702
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 2: out the door. Now what does that mean? Does that

703
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 2: mean that Baylor and a good coach Dave Randa can't

704
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: recover from that?

705
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: Now? Of course they can.

706
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 2: I think the Big Twelve might be the most wide

707
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 2: open conference in all of college football. Should they win it.

708
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: Sure they could win it. Oklahoma's turning over Texas is

709
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: you know, perpetually maybe back We don't know. So I

710
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 2: think there's obviously a pathway here, but the combination of

711
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 2: turn over at skill positions and key positions on defense

712
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 2: with an ify schedule, Frankly, it's not an easy schedule.

713
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 2: That one two punch to me, I think is just

714
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 2: what I'm clarifying. On the Baylor side, I haven't seen

715
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,720
Speaker 2: a whole lot that gives me more confidence. I really

716
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 2: just wanted to re emphasize by stance on the Bears here.

717
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 2: I feel pretty much the same as I did at

718
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 2: the start of the season, but at the start of

719
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: the previous season. Excuse me, I just felt the need

720
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: to redefine why I feel that way.

721
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Baylor's gonna be in a really good place.

722
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a talent thing. To me, maybe it's a

723
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: star power thing year over year that Baylor played super well.

724
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: Last year they lost key pieces on both sides, and

725
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: right now it's just a depth and star power thing

726
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: and year over year. Is it a winter wonder thing?

727
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: Are they a wake over version of Wisconsin Way Wisconsin

728
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: where they'll year in and year out find guys to

729
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: plug in and be all conference caliber defensive players, but

730
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: not find receiver. I think it's easier to find receivers

731
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 1: in Texas obviously, But that to me is the worry

732
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 1: that are they moving to a place where they're beating

733
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 1: more and more teams by double digits and that sometimes

734
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: can be harder without star power at receiver, star power

735
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: in the secondary. They gave a few too many big

736
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 1: plays last year. I think that's going to get corrected.

737
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: I think they're going to be better year over year

738
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: on defense, But again, it is it is sort of

739
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: the star power thing to me that I don't know

740
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: if it's quite there yet. Give me another one of

741
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: your teams that you're Arkansas taking another, Really, I am

742
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 1: a little bit saw. I know, I love my Hawks

743
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: and I still love the Hawks, and I still think

744
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: they're going to have a very fun year. I think

745
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: I may have underestimated the loss of Traylon Burks. I

746
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: think when you have that kind of game change in

747
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: gravitational receiver, maybe I'm putting too much importance with both

748
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: of these teams on receiver, and you know, they hit

749
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,280
Speaker 1: the portal hard on both sides of the ball hooting

750
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: bringing in I think jayde Hazel, what was the number one?

751
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: That's not a bad substitute, No, But the worry for me,

752
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: and again they hit the portal on defense. There's intriguing

753
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: talent on defense. The worry for me is with this

754
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: specific schedule, yeah, that Arkansas has and whether they have

755
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: BYU Liberty and Cincinnati in the non conference. It's just

756
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: the idea of adding that on top of their SEC

757
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: schedule in the no weeks off thing. And I think

758
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: they're doing better in terms of depth. You know, the

759
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: offensive line should be good, should hold up. But that

760
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: is just non stop. It's a tidal wave of difficulty.

761
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: I still love kJ Jefferson, I still love what they

762
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: have at offensive skill, but it's the what they were

763
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 1: able to do because they had one of the three

764
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: or four best receivers in the country and the types

765
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: of attention that attracted that is that is to me,

766
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: an Arkansas team that could go from having a really

767
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: strong offense to just a good offense, and that could

768
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: be the difference between winning a game thirty one twenty

769
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: eight and losing it thirty one twenty eight. So I

770
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: have them as a comfortable ball team, but I have

771
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: a pit in my stomach. Hut, Sam I got I

772
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: am terrible ted. I didn't plan for that, and I

773
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 1: regret it. Immediately, I will issue a written apology. Yeah,

774
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: I'm just more worried than I was during previous season

775
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: about the Hogs. How about that.

776
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 2: I think that's fair. And I am going to again

777
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 2: pause in discussing Arkansas and or Cincinnati further because I

778
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 2: think you are speaking a lot of truth, most of

779
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 2: which I have jotted down for our show tomorrow when

780
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 2: we preview that game between Cincinnati and Arkansas. It's a

781
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 2: fascinating game, fascinating game that should be getting more publicity

782
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 2: and it isn't.

783
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, who do you have next? I've got

784
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: Tears Tech. Yeah, good job, finally get this in, get

785
00:41:59,040 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: this on the record.

786
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got Texas Tech. I spent so much time

787
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 2: googling over the odds scenarios in which other teams play

788
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 2: Texas Tech that I forgot to mention you did not

789
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: you brought this up. I forgot to mention the teams

790
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 2: that they are actually playing.

791
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

792
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 2: Right, It's great that you have Oklahoma in a weird

793
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 2: spot on Oklahoma's schedule. It is also not great that

794
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,479
Speaker 2: you play Oklahoma at all. It is also not great

795
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 2: that you've got Tyler Shuck running your quarterback centric quarterback

796
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 2: dependent system under Zach Kittley and A we don't know

797
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: if he can stay healthy and be still Tyler Shuck.

798
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 2: I believe in Joy maguire. I think Joey MacGuire is

799
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: a good higher I think in the state of Texas,

800
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 2: he will find a way to harness talent. I think

801
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 2: he is a master motivator. I think he will have

802
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: that team playing hard each and every week. I love

803
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 2: that mute, like a Sam Pittman type, if you will.

804
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: Absolutely I love the hire. I think they did a

805
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 2: great job going out and getting him. Okay, I think

806
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 2: in time that will pay dividends. Might have been a

807
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: bit ex essive for me to go out there into

808
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: clear Texas Tech, this this uber wild card in the

809
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 2: Big twelve season, knowing all of these things and just

810
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: focusing in solely on that schedule. I do believe what

811
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 2: I said earlier. I believe they will dump somebody. I

812
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 2: think there will be a Texas Tech upset at some

813
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: point this season. But I mean I was kind of

814
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 2: talking them up as maybe a seven and five team, yeah,

815
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: which I'm gonna pump the brakes a little bit now.

816
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: Somebody's gotta go five and seven, four and eight, in

817
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: a conference. I know, I know something.

818
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna pull that throttle back a little bit

819
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: from one hundred and ten to like eighty percent with

820
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: Texas Tech.

821
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: I want to go with a Pac twelve team here.

822
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: I think if there's any team that appears to be disastrous,

823
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: that might not be disastrous. I hate to do it,

824
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: but sometimes there is something about rock bottom tie. Sometimes

825
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: rock bottom can be made of rubber and you have

826
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: a nice bounce back, and it's nice to have a

827
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: quarterback with upside to do that thing. Where are we

828
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: going with this? I was really down on Stanford. I

829
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: think they might be.

830
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 2: Okay, oh here we go, come on, come on, bring

831
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 2: it on. I say, okay, I want to hear it.

832
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 1: I could just mean five win, okay, Tanner McKee was

833
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: beat up. They look again. I could one could argue

834
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: that they had the worst offense in America relative to

835
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: talent and intention with what they were not able to

836
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: accomplish on offense last year. Still beat Oregon. Still be

837
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: Mario christaball as you like to say, the Oregon Ducks

838
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: showed short show morehead, but that is to me Stanford,

839
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: I think they could be extremely diet Utah in a

840
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: conference with a number of teams with new head coaches,

841
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: that Stanford is a team not good but good enough

842
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 1: to expose flaws.

843
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 2: Join me, I want you to join me, okay, on

844
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 2: my week two bandwagon that has Stanford upsetting USC. Will

845
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 2: you join me on that bandwagon? I don't think I

846
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 2: can go at least take the point that great? Will

847
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 2: you at least take the points?

848
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: Depends what the points are. It's double ditch. Where's the game?

849
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: Palo Alto or La? I have to check.

850
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: I think it's a Palo Alto. I don't know for sure, though,

851
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 2: so don't hold me to that. Will you join Just

852
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 2: think about it. You don't have to give me an answer. Now,

853
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 2: sleep on it. Yeah, you know, whatever you do.

854
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: I alot think it's like even season Cardinal or something

855
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 1: like that. And the way that maybe these programs, whether

856
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: it's an academic institution or whatever, that Stanford won a

857
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: bunch of games close I believe in twenty twenty in

858
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: the COVID year. I mean they didn't even play a

859
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: bunch of games, like four or five games, and then

860
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 1: last year we're a disaster, Like there's maybe just they're

861
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: the type of programming look they didn't hit the portal. Also,

862
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: there's not an overwhelming reason to say this team plugged

863
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: in a number of holes in the way that a

864
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: number of other teams, you know, update their roster and

865
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 1: improve their roster. So that's worrisome to me for sure.

866
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 1: But to have your starting place be a high ceiling

867
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: quarterback and a pretty good offensive line, if not good

868
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: offensive line, experienced receivers. They gave away games last year.

869
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: You look at where they were against UCLA. I just

870
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: think they're a candidate to win more than I thought

871
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 1: going into the season. Was it PFF Pro Football Focus

872
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 1: who was really high on Tanner McKee? Yes? I think

873
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people are, and rightfully so. He just

874
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: made a bad decision to go to a place with

875
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: a stale offense.

876
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Stanford Dan, join me, Join me week two.

877
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 2: I want to go to UCF. Oh okay, you see

878
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 2: F a bit of a surprise announcement. Although John Rice

879
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: John Reese is it Reese? I've heard Rice. I'm going

880
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 2: Reese man, all right, I'm looking this up for definitive,

881
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 2: but I remember him being John Rice Plumley at all, Miss,

882
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: I've seen that name before, and you say it Ree,

883
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: John Reese Plumbley is how I'm I know you're choosing that.

884
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: That is my decision. Kay, him winning that job, it

885
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: caught me by surprise. UCF people who have been following

886
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 2: the circumstance have said that should not have really been

887
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 2: a surprise to you, but it did kind of catch

888
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 2: me off guard because I thought Mikey Keene made some

889
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 2: strides last season. I am excited about this. I was

890
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: high on UCF before this move, and I think it

891
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 2: means a higher ceiling for UCF in twenty twenty two.

892
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: This is a team.

893
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 2: Remember they've got fourteen starters back. The schedule is not

894
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 2: bad at all. And I think because of John Reese Plumbley,

895
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: now it Rice, it is Rice, John Reese Plumbley. Excuse me, Dan, No,

896
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you. I just confirmed it. John Reese plumbly.

897
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: Committing to the bit. I think because of him being.

898
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 2: Named the starter, this should feel a lot like gus

899
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 2: On Auburn. I don't think that's a bad thing, Okay.

900
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 2: I think with what we saw last season, how he

901
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 2: adapted that offense to Mikey Kean after the Dylan Gabriel injury,

902
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: that was very admirable. Mikey Keen did a good job.

903
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,439
Speaker 2: Seventeen touchdowns, six interceptions. I've read those stats off time

904
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 2: and again. But this is going to look like a

905
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 2: lot like a Nick Marshall type of offense at UCF,

906
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 2: and I think that means the offense could be really interesting.

907
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 2: I was high on this team before I said they

908
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 2: could I could see a path at ten and two.

909
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 2: If they could run the GUS offense against this schedule,

910
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 2: there is a path to twelve and oh yeah, there

911
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: is a path to twelve and oh with this type

912
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 2: of quarterback running that offense effectively. Okay, so I'm a

913
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 2: team player here, Ty. I want to yes and your

914
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 2: points because I want to make you shine.

915
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: Thank you. UCF last year was a good explosive running team.

916
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: I expect John Rice plumbley. Yes, I'm going up against

917
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: your commitments. Excuse me. I expect him to be a

918
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: weapon on the ground and probably an improvement through the air,

919
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 1: but that being somewhat of an afterthought. Again, I'm trying

920
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 1: to be a team player here. UCF last year finished

921
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,280
Speaker 1: as the one hundred and second most efficient passing team

922
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: and went three and out more often than ninety six

923
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: teams in the country. They were ninety seven thirty two

924
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: percent of the time they went three and out. So

925
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 1: the place in which they were starting offensively, it's not

926
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: like anybody had secured this job one hundred percent. So

927
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: I just think you're right that they are going to

928
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 1: hopefully resemble what they look like at Auburn with Nick

929
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: Marshall and with the focus being the rushing attack. But

930
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: I just think they become a really fun team when

931
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: they build the whole plane out of running the ball,

932
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: and so that's where they're go That's where UCF is

933
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: going this year.

934
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 2: Maybe the right way to characterize my thought on UCF

935
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: is that this makes them more fun. Yeah, this makes

936
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,439
Speaker 2: some more fun. It might not mean twelve to zero,

937
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 2: though I do see a path. The schedule is beautiful

938
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 2: if you look at this thing. I mean, they could

939
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: make a run through this if they can figure out

940
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 2: some of those issues that plague them last season.

941
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: A mostly good defense last year to build on, Yeah.

942
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: Mostly good defense. It definitely makes them more fun. It

943
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: steers into what we know of Gus Melson.

944
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, on offense, at least give me another team. You

945
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: got any other teams? Uh, I'm a little bit. Well,

946
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: I was gonna mention Fresno that I'm not quite as

947
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 1: high because I'm a little bit worried about following up

948
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 1: that kind of season. I was very high on Kansas State.

949
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick to it. I'm doubling down. I think

950
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be Yeah, brother, I'm a believer in most

951
00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: instances of blaming and rewarding places over coaches and players sometimes,

952
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,760
Speaker 1: and I am even though I know what the Adrian

953
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 1: Martinez experience is, Like, I think there is something stable

954
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: about Manhattan, Kansas that's going to work to his advantage.

955
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: That we're seeing that Nebraska as a place does not

956
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: necessarily put all of its players all of the time

957
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: in the best position to win games. So that's what

958
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: the advantage. Like, maybe we're higher on Oklahoma now that

959
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: we know what they have in Nebraska. Ish, I don't know.

960
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna be a little bit more worried

961
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: about Iowa this year.

962
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 2: I know.

963
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on, you need to go

964
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:38,919
Speaker 1: back here first.

965
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 2: Okay, Sorry, continue for all the crap you gave me,

966
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 2: m M about being being the welcome committee on the

967
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 2: Island of Misfit Quarterbacks. Totally of orphan quarterbacks. Yeah, you

968
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 2: are doubling down on Adrian Martinez. I'm going to write

969
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 2: this down somewhere.

970
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: Can please you should continue? Okay, Adrian Martinez is it's

971
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: in that Spencer Sanders vein who you've also always believed in.

972
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: Never Never, You've always believed in Spencer Sanders. No, I know,

973
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: Spencer Sanders had too many years where he weirdly led

974
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: the country in interception ratio. That's the issue for me

975
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: with Spencer Sanders. It's just a turnover thing in those

976
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: bigger moments because he keeps he actually does get better

977
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: year over year. It's injury and it's turnovers in his case. Okay,

978
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: Adrian Martinez last year finished as a top it looks

979
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: like number seventeen in the nation in terms of yards

980
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: per attempt, and Adrian Martinez was not good in terms

981
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: of rating. So it's a turnover thing for Adrian Martinez.

982
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: But I think there's a Nebraska thing here, Ty, I

983
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: really do think there's a Nebraska thing. And I'm not

984
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: a big believer in these guys who turned the ball

985
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:53,919
Speaker 1: over too much and are too much of a wild card,

986
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: And that's what worries me about bow Nicks at Oregon,

987
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: but specifically with Kansas State, he is entering into a

988
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: more stable situation, and I would agree with that. I

989
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: would agree with that sentiment for sure. So I just

990
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,280
Speaker 1: don't think he's going to be asked to single handedly

991
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 1: win as much as he perhaps was at Nebraska or

992
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: was felt like he had to at Nebraska on that offense.

993
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: I'm saying Iowa, who I picked to win the Big

994
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: Ten West, because I watched them last year on offense,

995
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 1: and I just I can't imagine that they're going to

996
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: be in that double digit win conversation with a much

997
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: harder schedule and nothing changing on offense. To me for

998
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: the better, that they didn't get three beat up receivers

999
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,959
Speaker 1: back after they missed a good chunk of last year,

1000
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: That they didn't go out and hire the next great

1001
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: FCS offensive coordinator who was getting more out of less

1002
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: in whatever conference, that they didn't bring in a transfer

1003
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: quarterback who showed promise as a backup somewhere big last

1004
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 1: year that they said offensively, Yeah, but it looks like, uh,

1005
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 1: just stay the course, stay the course. And I had

1006
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: them winning the West with a more difficult schedule and

1007
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: not making changes on offense. The defense should still be

1008
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: incredible and force a bunch of turnovers and maybe have

1009
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: one of the best three corners in the country in

1010
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: Riley Moss. But still I think there are three or

1011
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: four losses to this team rather than like the couple.

1012
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means for who wins the division,

1013
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: but I think I saw them as a nine or ten.

1014
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 1: I think there's with more seven eight this year in

1015
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: terms of a win total.

1016
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 2: I saw a poster once that said, we promote family

1017
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 2: values here almost as much as we promote family members.

1018
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: M hmm.

1019
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 2: Great, it's a little bit how I feel about the

1020
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: Brian Farrence move.

1021
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's reasonable.

1022
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 2: We did our Fantasy Things Live show in Chicago and

1023
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 2: afterwards the Q and A, which you can listen to

1024
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 2: for Ballers dot Com if you sign up. We had

1025
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 2: three Iowa questions in a row from people who stepped

1026
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 2: up to the mic and had varying questions about the

1027
00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 2: Hawkeyes this coming season. And you know, you sense kind

1028
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 2: of that that feeling from pretty much every Iowa fan

1029
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 2: that we've interacted with. Everyone's happy that they've been successful.

1030
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 2: Everyone knows there's more there. Everyone knows that they could

1031
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 2: be doing better than they've been if perhaps they would

1032
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 2: make some changes on offense. It's not lost on any

1033
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 2: Iowa fans that this is this is a thing just

1034
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 2: hanging out there, and I don't know, like I feel

1035
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 2: like the Iowa thing for me every year it's never

1036
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 2: a surprise, you know, it's really only a surprise when

1037
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 2: they win like ten games because of the manner in

1038
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 2: which they do it. They they're winning with defense, they're

1039
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 2: running the ball, they're dealing with an embattled quarterback on

1040
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 2: some level, it's never really a surprise to me. So

1041
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if I need to clarify anything on

1042
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 2: that front. I just I sort of always feel the

1043
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 2: same about the Hawkeyes.

1044
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean I same. I was just hoping that

1045
00:55:55,800 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: offensively there was a more significant move than we got

1046
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,399
Speaker 1: the best tight end from the Patriot League and we're

1047
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 1: hoping that'll change everything that that is worrisome to me

1048
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: because they're always good at tight end. That's not a question.

1049
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 1: Uh So, yeah, that is that is my update there

1050
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: in terms of Okay, is there any team that you

1051
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: that you because I mentioned Stanford, that you were like,

1052
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: you know what, I think this team a lot more

1053
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 1: than I originally did, and you can. I know I'm

1054
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: putting you on the spot. Well, I want to talk

1055
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,240
Speaker 1: about Michigan. I know you said UCF would be more fun,

1056
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 1: but actually, like nuts and bolts wins losses, I want to.

1057
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 2: Talk about Michigan. Okay, a little bit in that Vein.

1058
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 2: First off, we did the Big ten East preview weeks ago.

1059
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 2: We posted many of these team previews out to YouTube.

1060
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 2: What I would say is, and I knew this, but

1061
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 2: this kind of confirmed it. Never underestimate a Michigan fans'

1062
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 2: ability to take something personally. Of course, never underestimate that.

1063
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 2: But that's everybody, isn't it. It's Michigan and Oklahoma specifically

1064
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 2: this offseason. Okay, yeah, that's never never underestimate that. Because

1065
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 2: I made a comment to the effect of, hey, they're

1066
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 2: losing a lot on defense, and that kind of worries me, Like,

1067
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 2: guys don't just like step in and become David o'jabo

1068
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 2: or Aiden Hutchinson overnight. Yeah, and suddenly it was like, well,

1069
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 2: you don't understand we have Blue Chippers at every position.

1070
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: Now It's fine, great.

1071
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 2: Friends, we almost lost to rutgersh and they're still going

1072
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 2: to lose to Ohio State this year. Don't say it

1073
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 2: warn you, But that being said, the quarterback thing is

1074
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 2: interesting to me. It is bizarre. It is very poor

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Speaker 2: decision making by Jim Harbaugh.

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Speaker 1: But I think it.

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00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 2: Definitely signals that there is some wiggle room here that

1078
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 2: it might not be ironclad that Jim Harbaugh is just

1079
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 2: going to go with what got in there last year

1080
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 2: in the form of Cave McNamara. The over under for

1081
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 2: Michigan is nine and a half. I said on the

1082
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 2: preview that I saw a nine and three floor and

1083
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 2: eleven and one ceiling. I don't necessarily feel any differently

1084
00:57:58,880 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 2: about that projection.

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00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: By why are you bringing them up?

1086
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 2: I'm bringing them up because if there is a pathway

1087
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 2: for this to be JJ McCarthy's team, the offense could

1088
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 2: be a lot more explosive, the team could be a

1089
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 2: lot more fun to watch, and it could signal that

1090
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 2: there is an added gear here for the Wolverines that

1091
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 2: we have not been able to fully realize. Like maybe

1092
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 2: I'm wrong, Maybe eleven to one.

1093
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: Isn't the ceiling.

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00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 2: Maybe they could beat Ohio State if they find a

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00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 2: way to put a defense out there, If they can

1096
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 2: continue that bully ball that they won with last season,

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00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: and if now they've got a true dual threat a quarterback,

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00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 2: if they go with JJ McCarthy, I feel like we've

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00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 2: been waiting for this thing to really take flight, the

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00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 2: dual threat quarterback angle thing to take flight up at Michigan,

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00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 2: and it hasn't happened yet. They've gone with a guy

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00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 2: in Cad McNamara, who was responsible with the football. We

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00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 2: knew the promise of JJ McCarthy was potentially exciting. We

1104
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 2: just have not been able to see it with any

1105
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 2: great you know, with the date, a lot of data points. Yeah, yeah,

1106
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 2: there's just yeah, the sample size is very limited. So

1107
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 2: I understand this might be a bit of a wig

1108
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 2: in a prayer, But the idea of a very effective

1109
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 2: dual threat quarterback in that system where you know you've

1110
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 2: got to stack the box, you know, you could potentially

1111
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 2: be dealing with a very physical brand of offense now,

1112
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 2: having a guy who can get outside the pocket, who

1113
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 2: can run with it, who could do more read option stuff,

1114
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 2: who can stretch the field with his arm. Like, there's

1115
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 2: a lot there that I don't think I was able

1116
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 2: to bake into my preview because I just assumed it

1117
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 2: was going to be Caid McNamara, So that to me

1118
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 2: is potentially very exciting and it could make Michigan's offense

1119
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 2: a whole lot better than I was expecting whenever we

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Speaker 2: recorded that preview.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, but the subtext of this kind of decision making,

1122
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: if we can go back to it, is trying to

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Speaker 1: hold kid McNamara is not good against Colorado State, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that there is some sort of indicator because truth so,

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00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: Colorado State will have a better defense than Hawaii. So

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Speaker 1: if cade McNamara takes care of business and is efficient

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Speaker 1: and looks like a slightly improved version of what we

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Speaker 1: saw last year, who was a good quarterback, not a

1129
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Speaker 1: great quarterback, you know, not going downfield all the time successfully,

1130
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Speaker 1: but a good you know, beat good teams, beat Iowa,

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01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: beat Ohio State, made plays in those games. So if

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Speaker 1: he's once again good and JJ McCarthy is great against

1133
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: an even worse Hawaii team, I know you can say like, okay,

1134
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 1: we're going in and looking at the specific tape and

1135
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: throws and what he did in terms of reading defense

1136
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: is doing what we asked him to do. But if

1137
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 1: neither one of them is bad, if neither one of

1138
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: them is clearly worse against a substandard opponent. What do

1139
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: you actually have to make Like why not just say

1140
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: you know in this when as Oregon fans, the school

1141
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: tells Duck fans, we're yellow this week, we're white this week,

1142
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: we're black this week. Right to support the uniform color

1143
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 1: because there's so many that's like an Oregon quirk thing,

1144
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: like why not already announce all of the starting quarterback season,

1145
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: Like why not say, Okay, against Iowa it's going to

1146
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: be JJ McCarthy, but against Prince State it's going to

1147
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: be Kid McNamara, Like, I don't what you can glean

1148
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 1: against these two teams is minimal if they're both good.

1149
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 1: So the subtext is, we hope Kid McNamara makes it

1150
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: easy for us, Right, I think so.

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Speaker 2: I think so, But I am taking a more glass

1152
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 2: half full. I hear you approaching this. I agree it's weird, man, Like,

1153
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 2: just pick a guy, pick it out, name JJ McCarthy

1154
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 2: the starter, and if he bombs and go back to

1155
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 2: Kate McNamara, you know what you have there. The manner

1156
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 2: in which he is conducting this open quarterback search through

1157
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 2: the first two weeks of the season is just weird.

1158
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 2: I can't remember a circumstance where we've seen anything like

1159
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 2: this at all, But I think.

1160
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: In this scenario this makes Jim harbaugh felicity actually a big,

1161
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,439
Speaker 1: high profile love triangle. I know one of them was Ben,

1162
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: maybe Noel was that. Okay, continue, it does have a

1163
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: little bit of that flair to it. Yeah, it gives

1164
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: me some optimism though, that we could be seeing a

1165
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 1: fully unleashed Michigan offense with a dual threat quarterback. Big

1166
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 1: assumption that JJ McCarthy is good. We've seen flash. We

1167
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: don't know.

1168
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 2: I mean, we've seen it all these Yeah, the span

1169
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 2: of a full season, we don't know that. But for sure,

1170
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 2: I think it gives me a renewed sense of optimism

1171
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 2: that we could see a more explosive version of what

1172
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 2: was very good last year for them. And that would

1173
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 2: be cool. That would be great for Michigan fans to

1174
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,439
Speaker 2: be able to have that, as you know, hopefully by

1175
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 2: the point later in the season week thirteen, have that

1176
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 2: as a fully mature portion of their offense that they

1177
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 2: could deploy against Ohio State. They still lose, they'd still lose,

1178
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,439
Speaker 2: but it'd be a better game.

1179
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 1: Somewhere, Steve spurriy Er is saying, wait, I was allowed

1180
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 1: to do that. I was allowed to just call out

1181
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 1: who's starting various games. But he likes he likes doing

1182
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: it between plays, between drives, everything like that. But man,

1183
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly, I'm sure is inspired. Oh, Brian Kelly, he'd

1184
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: put them both on the field at the same time.

1185
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: He might do that this year. But that's the secret.

1186
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 2: Man. Don't put it past don't put it past him

1187
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 2: to put Jayden Daniels in the backfield.

1188
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: Okay, uh, and we'll see what happens. We'll see that.

1189
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Speaker 1: That's definitely to me. The reading between the lines is

1190
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: we really help one of them is average. We really

1191
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 1: hope one of them isn't that good because J J

1192
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: McCarthy looking like a superstar, Kade McNamara looking like a superstar,

1193
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 1: and like Colorado State again had a pretty decent pass

1194
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: defense last year. But if they both just look as

1195
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 1: good as expected, it doesn't say a lot. Yeah, it's

1196
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 1: pretty divisive, divisive divisive to me. But yeah, you're it's

1197
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 1: like team Kid, team JJ cool.

1198
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Speaker 2: We shall see, all right, any other teams that you

1199
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Speaker 2: want to call out?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so I'm standing by my evaluations because

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Speaker 1: I just want to say I had such an incredible

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Speaker 1: time with you at the Fantasy Things show in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie Hildebrand, tune in tomorrow. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna preview all that week one has to offer. But

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Speaker 2: in the meantime, thanks again for listening, supporting, downloading, and

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Speaker 2: playing along with our wackiness.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon. Stay solid, peace,