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Speaker 1: That's the spirit we bring to this show.

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Speaker 2: I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: Is this this Morning Combat? Hi? VC? Nice to see you.

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Speaker 1: I mean this is hey everybody, it's Halloween. Hi. My

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Speaker 1: I'm joined by the man who you can blame for that.

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Speaker 1: It's my friend and yours. Although I look like I'm

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Speaker 2: Technical issues? Is what's up?

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Speaker 2: Maybe all those years that I fought against the scary

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Speaker 1: But BC, I went to bed with my daughter last

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Speaker 1: But we have a lot to get to today. Wrap

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Speaker 2: I'm a little emotionally wounded from all of the technical

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Speaker 2: setbacks that I've endured this morning, Luke. But you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm thankful to the staff for getting this out today, Luke. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about Jake Paul here for just a second

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Speaker 2: I'm an MMA star, a star that MMA fans watch

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Speaker 1: Luke for Jake?

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Speaker 1: he was. And you know, BC, you know it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be fucking oil and water when those guys get together.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be clashing. Their camps were nearly fist fighting backstage,

431
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Speaker 1: So you add that element in there. Then ads popularity

432
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Speaker 1: element and what Jake is pulling off where everyone just

433
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Speaker 1: can't fucking stand him inside MMA, and I think it

434
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Speaker 1: does big numbers.

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Speaker 2: There's there's look, when you're doing this sort of oddball fight,

436
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Speaker 2: there's gotta be some pro wrestling chicanery in there in

437
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Speaker 2: terms of the promotion. And I actually give Nate a

438
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Speaker 2: lot of credit for starting some shit backstage and sort

439
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Speaker 2: of you know, starting to grind those gears for when

440
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Speaker 2: he is ready, when he is available. I agree with you,

441
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Speaker 2: this is a monster fight and I think the animosity

442
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Speaker 2: build up between them will make this a big deal. Luke,

443
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Speaker 2: in light of the question that I asked before that

444
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Speaker 2: though in terms of you know, how much longer can

445
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Speaker 2: he keep fighting smaller guys? Does he have to start

446
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Speaker 2: scaling that model upwards to fighting not only guys his

447
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Speaker 2: own size, but a little bit younger. And does it

448
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Speaker 2: have to be aging MMA fighters or can it be

449
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Speaker 2: aging boxers? I mean, what is going to be the potential?

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Speaker 2: You know, what type of matches is he gonna is

451
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Speaker 2: he gonna be looking for after this group fury Nate

452
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Speaker 2: Diaz goes by, and who knows if GSP wants to

453
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Speaker 2: be involved in this, but another smaller guy moving up?

454
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Speaker 2: Do you need him to start taking on the late

455
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Speaker 2: thirties retired UFC guys who are two hundred and five pounds.

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Speaker 1: It's not like I'm not invested in his career, like

457
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Speaker 1: I'm the one advising it. Like he can just do

458
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Speaker 1: whatever he wants to do if he wants to go

459
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Speaker 1: and fight a certain way to preserve the longevity of

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Speaker 1: it or versus not. I'm not really invested it in

461
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Speaker 1: it in that way, but this is why I asked

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Speaker 1: that question. You didn't seem to like the phrasing of it,

463
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Speaker 1: but I do think it's worth thinking about. Guys, if

464
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Speaker 1: the audience showing up to watch you lose, and by

465
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Speaker 1: the way, Jake Paul got booed like a motherfucker in

466
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Speaker 1: that arena, if the audience showing up to watch you

467
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Speaker 1: lose as MMA fans and the people buying your products

468
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Speaker 1: are MMA fans. I talked to boxingsts and they were

469
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Speaker 1: telling me that they were like they could just tell

470
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Speaker 1: from the audience who was coming in, who it was,

471
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Speaker 1: and how much there was that this was targeted towards

472
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Speaker 1: an MA audience in terms of who was receiving the message. Yeah,

473
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Speaker 1: he doesn't fight, MMA doesn't get anywhere near it, And

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Speaker 1: I understand why you do have to ask yourself what

475
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Speaker 1: kind of a star is he? He doesn't have he

476
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Speaker 1: uses boxing, but is he really a boxing celebrity more

477
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Speaker 1: than he is an MMA celebrity. No, he's not. He's

478
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Speaker 1: much more an MMA celebrity. Here's what I think they'll

479
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Speaker 1: be set, which gets to your question, which is that

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Speaker 1: if he goes in there and let's say mops the

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Speaker 1: floor with Nate, which you know, who the hell knows,

482
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Speaker 1: But let's see if that happens. And if it does,

483
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Speaker 1: you might get to a point where the MMA folks

484
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Speaker 1: are a little bit tired of it because he won't

485
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Speaker 1: be able to get someone young who they can actually

486
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Speaker 1: get tested against. So he might then transition to boxing

487
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Speaker 1: and then becomes something of a boxing anti not anti hero,

488
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Speaker 1: but like the same thing he's doing in MMA. Then

489
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Speaker 1: he could go and challenge in the sport of boxing, right,

490
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Speaker 1: become the boxing villain in the way that he's be

491
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Speaker 1: able to become the MMA villain. That may happen, in

492
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Speaker 1: which case there could be all kinds of different or

493
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Speaker 1: pockets of guys, younger, bigger, whatever, that he could go to.

494
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Speaker 1: But I think as long as he's fighting MMA guys,

495
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be the ones that are a little bit

496
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Speaker 1: older towards the end of their careers, who could get

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Speaker 1: out of their contracts and have a big enough name.

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Speaker 1: That's just the reality of it. So keep writing that

499
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Speaker 1: until it no longer works. It seems.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be interesting. Look, it's gonna be interesting. Moving forward.

501
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 2: I mean, the cries to escalate the matchmaking will only continue.

502
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Speaker 2: But when you got a big event like that potential

503
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Speaker 2: Natiez and I think what you brought up is interesting.

504
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Speaker 2: How long is that matching window from the UFC? Will

505
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Speaker 2: they be willing to stand guard at the doorway and

506
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Speaker 2: prevent this fight under any circumstance. That's probably going to

507
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Speaker 2: be the big decider of it. In the meantime, Could

508
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Speaker 2: you make a Fury fight? Absolutely? And I think there

509
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Speaker 2: is some intrigue in there. But are you starting to

510
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Speaker 2: believe even more of what we already believed? That Tommy

511
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Speaker 2: Fury might be the right opponent in the same vein

512
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Speaker 2: that Chavez Junior was for Anderson Silva. But the Jake

513
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Speaker 2: we saw on Saturday he may have no issues with

514
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Speaker 2: Tommy Feury at all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta be honest, I thought after two Tommy's

516
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Speaker 1: last performance that Jake was gonna win. After this one,

517
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm fairly confident. I don't I don't know how

518
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Speaker 1: competitive that would be, to be perfectly honest with you,

519
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Speaker 1: I guess we'll have to see. I guess we'll have

520
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Speaker 1: to see. But it's worth thinking about out there. Folks

521
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Speaker 1: like if you're super mad at Jake and you're super

522
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Speaker 1: mad that he's doing this, it's because he's winning. It's

523
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Speaker 1: because he's winning, and people don't like that, and I

524
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Speaker 1: understand it, but it's reality. Okay. See, let's move on

525
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Speaker 1: to some UFC here if we can. Now. Unfortunately, it's

526
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Speaker 1: not good news. And I gotta say, b see, the

527
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Speaker 1: run of fighters this year who are getting injured and

528
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Speaker 1: including just the featherweight division alone right out of the

529
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Speaker 1: gate in the beginning of these fights is crazy. So

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Speaker 1: Calvin Cater and on Arnold Allen the two best fighters

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Speaker 1: who competed this weekend. I mean, obviously Silva is the

532
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Speaker 1: in his heyday, was the best. What we're talking about currently,

533
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Speaker 1: these are the two best fighters who competed this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Anywhere I would well Loma was certainly in the case

535
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Speaker 1: of there in terms of the boxing side, but get

536
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Speaker 1: the idea. Two highly highly accomplished featherweights and the first

537
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Speaker 1: round was pretty good. B See, it was pretty competitive,

538
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Speaker 1: but you saw there was that jumping switch knee he

539
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Speaker 1: tried Calvin Cator and it injured his knee. It was

540
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Speaker 1: towards the end of the round. He survives, he goes

541
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Speaker 1: back out and then right away he gets it injured.

542
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Speaker 1: Now before we talk about what it means for the

543
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Speaker 1: featherweight division, should he have thought that second round, I'm

544
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Speaker 1: gonna leave it there. What do you think.

545
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Speaker 2: It's easy to say no, based on that he fell apart,

546
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Speaker 2: you know the first time he came out in that

547
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Speaker 2: second round. I think though, when he went back to

548
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Speaker 2: the corner and you heard his corner, ask him and

549
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Speaker 2: he's like, I don't know, I don't know. He was

550
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Speaker 2: scared by what happened. He didn't get a chance to

551
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Speaker 2: really stand up. And immediately after as as, Alan tried

552
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Speaker 2: for a submission, and then we saw the end of

553
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Speaker 2: the round. The fighter, the warrior in him, is gonna

554
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Speaker 2: give himself every chance to try to continue. I wasn't

555
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Speaker 2: upset by what took place. The first time Alan tried

556
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Speaker 2: to go for a calf kick, Cater was down, he

557
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Speaker 2: was hurt. The fight was over. No more conversation we needed.

558
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Speaker 2: I think in this case, it's certainly unfortunate we did

559
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Speaker 2: not get the answers we were looking for. The only

560
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Speaker 2: silver lining is that we did get nearly a full

561
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Speaker 2: round before the injury. It did look like Alan was

562
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Speaker 2: controlling the fight, and he looked fairly impressive. Although look,

563
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Speaker 2: there's a five round fight. Who knows what type of

564
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Speaker 2: you know, seeds you're planning in the first round, what

565
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Speaker 2: type of reads you're making. But this did look like

566
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Speaker 2: Alan's fight. It's a tough blow for Cater who's been

567
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Speaker 2: able to reinvent himself after big defeats and still look

568
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Speaker 2: to be a player here. But at this age you

569
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 2: don't know how long this recovery is going to be.

570
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Speaker 2: And now you've got a guy in Allen who's extending

571
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Speaker 2: that wind streak to the type of distance, the type

572
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Speaker 2: of level. Now what is he twelve wins overall in

573
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Speaker 2: a row ten in the UFC that it's gonna be

574
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Speaker 2: hard to keep this guy out of the title conversation. This,

575
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Speaker 2: in theory, would have been that fight that, like his

576
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Speaker 2: win over Hooker, that would have really allowed us to

577
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Speaker 2: affirm him as that do you think Allan should off

578
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Speaker 2: of this go directly to the top. Now you can't

579
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Speaker 2: go to the top, be obviously, because Volkanovski's gonna be

580
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Speaker 2: fighting in the lightweight division. Does he need another fight

581
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Speaker 2: Arnold Allen to get the type of critical validation that

582
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Speaker 2: this fight was supposed to, Do we gain, do we

583
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Speaker 2: learn any can anyone win off of this is my

584
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: real question.

585
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Speaker 1: I don't you don't lose, You definitely don't lose. You

586
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Speaker 1: definitely advance at least a little bit. But the lack

587
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Speaker 1: of clarity just means that there's more to be clarified. Now,

588
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: let me put a pin in that, just real quickly

589
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: answer the question that I pitched to you. Should he

590
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Speaker 1: have thought? These situations are always case by case. It's

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Speaker 1: very difficult. Here's what I'll say. I did not like

592
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Speaker 1: when Cater and his team, when Max was just teeing

593
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Speaker 1: off on him and then sending him back out there

594
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Speaker 1: round after round, I did not agree with that. I

595
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Speaker 1: thought after the fourth they should have called it and

596
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Speaker 1: they didn't. And I had a conversation with Tyson Chartier afterwards.

597
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Speaker 1: Who is the you know, the head of the New

598
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: England Cartell in terms of the coaching and everything, and

599
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Speaker 1: you know, I think he understood some of their criticisms.

600
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Speaker 1: And they have their own choices to make and their

601
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: difficult ones. I understand it. But that's where I came

602
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: down this one. I'm a little less inclined because it

603
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: happened towards the end of the round. He wasn't exactly

604
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: the first round anyway, he wasn't exactly sure what had happened.

605
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Speaker 1: I can understand trying to pull through. We saw TJ.

606
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: Dillashaw get his knee popped from an a heel hook

607
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: attempt from Corey Sandhagen and in the end of the

608
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Speaker 1: first round in their contest, and then he came back

609
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Speaker 1: and he won a five round contest. So you know,

610
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Speaker 1: the overall record of corners or fighters just taking on

611
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: injury loads that they can't possibly win with is voluminous,

612
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Speaker 1: and so as a consequence, you're always like, here we

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Speaker 1: go again in this particular case because of the very

614
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: particular circumstances around it, I'm not like, I just feel

615
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Speaker 1: like we should dial back some of the criticism here.

616
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Speaker 1: I do think that's fair in terms of where we

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Speaker 1: go BC, that is now the dominant question. I have

618
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Speaker 1: the rankings in front of us here. If we're looking

619
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Speaker 1: at featherweight, obviously Volkanovsky's is your champ, but he's up

620
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Speaker 1: a notch. So here's who we have inside the top four.

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Speaker 1: We have Max, we have Yair, we have Ortega, we

622
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Speaker 1: have josh Emmint, at four. They have Cater at five

623
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Speaker 1: and Arnold at six, but you can put I think

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Speaker 1: they're probably gonna switch places. So now Arnold's gonna jump

625
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: up about a top all right, so into the top five.

626
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Speaker 1: So BC with Max Yair, Brian Josh and Arnold Allen,

627
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Speaker 1: what do you do? My answer is you do Yair

628
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: versus Emmett, and you do Arnold versus Max. That's one

629
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: thing you could do. You could potentially throw in Brian

630
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: or take if you want it. I'm not sure how

631
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: people feel about that. How do you fix that problem?

632
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Speaker 2: I like the two fights that you set up right there,

633
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 2: and I think we have some concerns about Max from

634
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Speaker 2: that performance against Vocal. Obviously it's also Alexander Volkanowski. You're

635
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: pompa pun king. So Max is going to need the

636
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 2: opportunity if that's the direction he wants to go to

637
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 2: prove us wrong, come back and get a big win.

638
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 2: I think for Arnold Allen with this fight not giving

639
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: him that affirmation I talked about it, that stamping that

640
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: he is ready for a champion fighting a former champion,

641
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Speaker 2: an absolute star and Max Holloway most likely in a

642
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: you know, big fight night main event or in a

643
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 2: high spot on a pay per view that's as close

644
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: as you can get to a world championship. That gives

645
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 2: the commercial opportunity to break through as well as critically,

646
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 2: Luke I saw some people bring up the idea of

647
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: floating an interim title out there because Volkanowski has the

648
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 2: potential to be tied up for a bit. You know,

649
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 2: if he's gonna fight once outside the division, you're that's

650
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 2: at least six months out of the game. If that's

651
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: the case, you're looking more at Yah Year and josh

652
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: Emmitt for that interim title.

653
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: Correct, Yes, and those were the two guys that we

654
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: had spotlighted previous to this moment that were kind of

655
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: like the two most deserving. Again, Arnold with this win

656
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: only enters the top five. Josh Emmont we were like

657
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: title shot, ya ear, We were like title shots. So

658
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: I still feel like he's a step back. I guess

659
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: you could also do Arnold Allen versus Ortega. That's another

660
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: route you could go if you don't know what to

661
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: do with Max as well. So there's some questions there.

662
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, the division's fun tough break for cater Alan's making movements,

663
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: but let's not jump too far ahead, right, that's it?

664
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would I'd agree with you. I

665
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: thought Arnold Allen in the first round, and there's just

666
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: no way to tell how he would have looked in

667
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: rounds two through five. But I agree with you. I

668
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: thought in the first round he looked pretty good man.

669
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: He looks like he's finally truly filled out to the

670
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: weight class. He looked like he had a good game plan.

671
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: He was on his horse, he was landing and moving,

672
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: he had a big flurry against the fence against Cater Like.

673
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: He looked pretty goddamn good. But you're still more to do.

674
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: And credit to Arnold Allen by the way they put

675
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: a microphone on his face. Michael Bisping interviewed him. In

676
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: the first thing he said was, ah, you know, like,

677
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: how am I going to get an advancement off of this?

678
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: You know it's an injury one, Like what are we

679
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: going to do? So he knew right away that this

680
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: wasn't going to be enough by itself. The question is

681
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: exactly how you sort the rest of it, and especially

682
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: because cater I mean, I don't know how long he's

683
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: gonna be off BC, but I'm sure you saw the

684
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: Slombo replay, you can watch his knee pop in real

685
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: time on the side of his leg, like that thing

686
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: is probably going to require surgery, so he might be

687
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: out for a while. It just leaves an odd number

688
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 1: that you don't really know what to do with the

689
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: top five. And I just can't remember a time when,

690
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: like it was very unclear who inside the top five

691
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: was deserving short of everyone already being beaten.

692
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: Well, I don't like the title being I like Volkanovski

693
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: getting this chance to be great. I don't like when

694
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: a title is, you know, locked up and not being

695
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 2: defended for six months or more. But look, it's it's interesting.

696
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: You know how much I've always been against interim titles,

697
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 2: yet I am liking the fallout of what putting an

698
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: interim title on a fight is starting to mean. Right

699
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 2: going back to UFC two thirty six, when the main

700
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: and co main event had unnecessary interim title bouts, yet

701
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: both were Fight of the Year contender is an incredible

702
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: So I want to bring up that old point I

703
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 2: used to make, which I think is true. Just don't

704
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: make it an interim title, make it something different. I'm

705
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 2: not saying you have to have a green jacket or

706
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: a ring or something. But like my whole point is

707
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: this a fight should have a number one contender fight,

708
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: especially when the champions busy, should have bigger stakes around it.

709
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,239
Speaker 2: I let you know, you can make it a pay

710
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 2: per view main event if you've got big stars. I

711
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 2: like that people can get money, you know, a higher

712
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 2: salary at an interim title level that they normally can.

713
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 2: Just don't make it a word title because if we're

714
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 2: going to start to use this gimmick more often, which

715
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: seems to be the UFC's direction, you're just gonna have

716
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: a long list of people who are going to retire

717
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: as former interim champions when it doesn't mean what it's

718
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: supposed to me right when you have too many, So

719
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: just make it something different, make it a different gimmick.

720
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: Wouldn't you like that, Luke? Wouldn't you like the winner

721
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: to have like a jacket put around them or like

722
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 2: a cape or something, or a ring or a headband

723
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: that says I got next on it, Luke, you know

724
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: what I mean? And then you know, yeah, like if

725
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: josh Emmett wins, you know, then it's like, okay, let's

726
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: put it on them. Let's put on the Holy hammer.

727
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: Hashtag holy hammer. He's got next everybody, and then you

728
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: take pictures with that thing over your shoulder and yeah, yeah,

729
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 2: great idea, Luke, You know what I mean, holy freaking hammer.

730
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 2: If that's the case, make as many interim title fights

731
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: as you want, because the stakes are big. Just don't

732
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 2: give them the same looking UFC championship that you win

733
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: when you're the real champion, because that's not it. So

734
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 2: what do you do here, Luke? Just change the color

735
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 2: of the belt so people know for sure that that

736
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 2: guy who wore it is just the interim champion? Or

737
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: am I just really wasting time on a stupid show

738
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: off this secondary camera that looks like it's the nineteen

739
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 2: eighties right now. I'm not even level, Luke. Maybe that's

740
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 2: on me. Maybe that's technology getting me wrong. Were you

741
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 2: liking where I'm going with this or just move on?

742
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: I like the idea. I mean, I've been the one

743
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: who's been saying, like, the interim championships, you know, borrowed

744
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: from the idea of boxing, is a bit of a waste.

745
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: But yeah, considering a I don't know what the fuck

746
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: you're supposed to do in this division right now? And

747
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: then two you indicated I've said a million times like

748
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 1: this is why Anganu should have fought fought for a title,

749
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: excuse me, an interim title when he fought against Rosenstruck

750
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: at that COVID or a pote during the first showback

751
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: from COVID in May of twenty twenty, whenever that was,

752
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 1: I forget the number of the UFC pay per view

753
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: he should have done that. Here, you know what, I'm

754
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:45,959
Speaker 1: going to join you? Fuck this? What am I doing?

755
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 1: Keep that there?

756
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Aaron Brodstetter has said over Twitter that I'm just

757
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 2: like Chuck Mindenhall today on Halloween, Luke, and I didn't

758
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know if that's Chuck's gimmick, So

759
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 2: I got to create something different.

760
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 1: Here, right, I'm just saying, he like with this, you

761
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: make the interim prize for more money. You know what

762
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Make the interim prize for more Are we

763
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 1: gonna go rob a bank? What are we doing right now?

764
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: Are we gonna rob a bank? In a terrible ben

765
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: Affleck movie? What are we doing?

766
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: If we do, we should buy better technology. Okay, that's

767
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: what we should do, Luke.

768
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: All right, I'm just pointing out with this. We see

769
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 1: last point and I'll take this mask off. Yes, there

770
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: are ways to make the interim title more attractive, and

771
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 1: there's things we could do, but just having it as

772
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: we have it now is already. People should put a

773
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: little bit more respect and prestige on it because it

774
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: actually does carry. I would argue a little bit more

775
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: value than the interim titles you see for like the

776
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: WBO or whatever the fuck you know?

777
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: Absolutely on that, Hey, Luke, did you see that BSL

778
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 2: Bloodstained Lane called out Jake Paul and said he now

779
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: believes absolutely that he has what it takes to beat him.

780
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 2: I mean, Jake Paul is not a boxer, Luke, He's

781
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: an MMA star in your eyes? So why don't you

782
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: go back after the ultimate MMA troll and Heckler?

783
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: Right, I'd be down. I'd be down to see that.

784
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 1: Uh that'd be kind of fun, but probably not gonna happen.

785
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: Probably not gonna all.

786
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: Right back to Cater versus Emmett, Luke.

787
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 1: That's all I really have. It's a disorganized mess currently

788
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: at featherweight, but it's just not The roadmap ahead is

789
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,959
Speaker 1: going to be very unclear. I still think if you again,

790
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: if you're doing most deserving. Last thing, you're doing most deserving,

791
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: most deserving interim title. Yeah, ye versus Emmett period.

792
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 2: That's it, absolutely, absolutely all right.

793
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: Let's go to quickly. There's a Bellator event that happened.

794
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 1: It got kind of overshadow by everything else that happened

795
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: over the weekend. It was in Italy BC. It was

796
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: Bellatour two eighty seven topic number four. Here. I'm gonna

797
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: mispronounce his name because I watched the fights on mute,

798
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: but it's Mensur. I knew a Mansur who was a

799
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: singer in Iran. Barnowi Barnuawi Barnuau. I can't say it.

800
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: I can't say Nawi Luke.

801
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 2: It's Barnowi.

802
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: Okay. Barnowi shook up the lightweight division, of course by

803
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: beating Adam Piccolotti, and dude kind of housed him, having

804
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 1: his back for basically a round and a half until

805
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: he finished him off with a choke. How does this

806
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 1: shake up the weight class?

807
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: I think it's a new player, and there was a

808
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 2: lot of, you know, under the radar hype for this

809
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 2: guy coming in. He hadn't fought since twenty nineteen. I

810
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: think they said on the broadcast. You know he was

811
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 2: over like twelve hundred days inactive. I don't know if

812
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: that math matches up there, but he came out here

813
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 2: and instantly got you know, got the attention he was

814
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: looking for with that second round submission, just seemed to

815
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: dominate on the ground. This guy looks very interesting, Luke.

816
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 2: He looks like he's he's a finished product ready to

817
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 2: potentially wreck Havoc thirty years old from Tunisia. Has you

818
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 2: know his last lost Luke was to Mateyashcamrap back in

819
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen.

820
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's pretty good. He want.

821
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: This is now eight in a row for him. I

822
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 2: don't what is the story behind that long gap. Do

823
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: you have an answer on that.

824
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. No, I don't know.

825
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: All right, Well, the long break, he's back. It was

826
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 2: a strong beltor introduction, and you know what does this

827
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: mean for the lightweight division. You've got instantly a new

828
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: players who's tall, long and strong, especially on the ground,

829
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 2: and was able to manhandle Pekolatti and really really make

830
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 2: a large statement here on Saturday.

831
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: For me, remember what Scott Koker said earlier this year

832
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: in September that there was going to be in twenty

833
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: twenty three a belt or lightweight tournament. Let me read

834
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: to you the rankings. Now we don't know who's going

835
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: to be in that tournament, but you got to have

836
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: eight players, including the champion. So right now there would

837
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: be Usman, Numbergamdoff, Benson Henderson obviously, Petricky, Tofique, Musaia, Sydney Outlaw,

838
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: Brent Premis, Alexander Shabley, Islam Mama, dov Aj McKee, and

839
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: Peter Coeley. Then of course, now you can add Mansor

840
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: to the list. Dude, that's all of a sudden like

841
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: that's a great division. We talk about Bellator's lightweight division

842
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 1: is pretty strong. They're light heavyweight excuse me, the featherweight

843
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: division anyway, and then we talk about their light heavyweight

844
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: division is also pretty strong. Here I would say lightweight.

845
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: This is a good introduction to it. Again, this fight

846
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 1: wasn't even fucking close, by the way, what's his face?

847
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: Mansor out there hitting the giggler sweep in modern MMA,

848
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: it's a surprising sweep. You shouldn't be able to hit it,

849
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: but he did. He gets it, gets on top, finds

850
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 1: the back relatively easy in the second round, and then

851
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: closes the show. Dude, I would put him. I mean,

852
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: can he beat this Vin number Goamanoff, I don't know,

853
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 1: Benson Henderson, I don't know, to Fike Masai if I don't know,

854
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 1: and then Alexander Shabley sitting at six, I wouldn't know

855
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: about that either. But in the other guys, could he

856
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: beat him? Yeah, like I think he could very much

857
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 1: beat him. So this is a very fun new introduction

858
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: at just the right time for Bellatore as they head

859
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: into the Lightweight Grand Prix whenever that will be coming

860
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: up next year. A good, good addition and also also

861
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: just good to get guys internationally for when they want

862
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: to go back to France. I think he has actually

863
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: French connections as well. Fun little addition, fun little addition.

864
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 2: I have to say, that was a you know, there

865
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 2: was a preliminary, preliminary card, there were some dark bouts.

866
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 2: There's like twenty fights on this card. It was ridiculous.

867
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you see a lot of that when you have

868
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: regional shows where they're just kind of keeping guys busy

869
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: or they owe a certain amount of fights and then

870
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: they don't have broadcast time for it.

871
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: Shout out to Mansur for the big win. Look, you

872
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 2: haven't had man sours since you were an angry, single,

873
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 2: lonely guy. Right.

874
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that means. I knew a

875
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: guy named Mansor who was my best friend's uncle, and

876
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: he was a singer. Old Man's war could sang in Farsi,

877
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: but he could sing.

878
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 2: You don't even want to talk about Chase hooperg and

879
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 2: sent to the to the to the rare bunk of hell.

880
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: Luke, Yeah, I was gonna do that for a little

881
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: bit later. What did you think about it?

882
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: Tough? Tough? Uh, you know, tough development for a guy

883
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: who's jiu jitsu is is better than the rest of

884
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: his game, and maybe giving him a higher level of

885
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 2: confidence than than the development of of of his full

886
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 2: skills has necessitated has necessitated, Luke, that was tough to watch.

887
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 2: Man got dropped three times, got finished in just over

888
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: a minute.

889
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is the problem with going to

890
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: the UFC too early. You know, everybody thinks that they're ready.

891
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: And I'm not picking on Chase. I think he's a

892
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: smart guy, and maybe he did think he was ready.

893
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 1: Maybe he thought he could, you know, leverage his skills.

894
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,919
Speaker 1: But you just gotta be really careful about that. It's

895
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: hard to know. Fair enough, these decisions aren't easy. And again,

896
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: it's not like he's anybody's making huge bank on the

897
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: regional scene. I totally get it. But if your timing

898
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: isn't right in terms of when you enter the organization,

899
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: not only will you not get your maximum results, but

900
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: you could actually set them backward a little bit. I

901
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: don't know if he's necessarily in that spot yet, but

902
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: it's a tough run. Man, It's a tough it's a

903
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: tough spot he's in. I don't I don't envy it.

904
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: He's a smart guy, so I think he'll figure out

905
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: the right path one way or the other. But you know,

906
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: everything's got to be in place at the right time,

907
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: and if it's not, it's just it's not going to work.

908
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: So it seems like it may have been a little

909
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: bit rushed. We'll see, all right, be se let's run.

910
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: Let's finish things off here on the boxing side of things,

911
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: topic to.

912
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 2: Say that this may end up becoming our worst episode

913
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: of all time, and if it does, I just want

914
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: to thank everybody who stays with us until the end,

915
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 2: and we'll make it up to you in a big way.

916
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, we don't have to like tell them that,

917
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: but I guess we can.

918
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, this might be as low as bad as it gets, right,

919
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 2: me arguing over a camera not plugging incorrectly and for

920
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: forty in my spirit for life and the process, and

921
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 2: just yeah.

922
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: All right, let's keep it together. Let's keep it together.

923
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: Let's get together. Topic number five. Let's get back to

924
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: boxing here for just a little bit, a bit of

925
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: a round up very quickly BC Vasili Lomachenko gets it

926
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: done against Jamaine Ortiz, but barely. Here's one where I

927
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: was very wrong. I thought he was gonna go in

928
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: there and march down this guy, and that didn't happen. Now,

929
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: Lomachenko did win, but you had Ortiz coming to a

930
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: strong start early, switching stances midway through, and then Lomachenko

931
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: having a bit of a late run there through the

932
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: course of that fight, but he had to earn it.

933
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: What was your biggest takeaway from this fight?

934
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was a little bit of everything

935
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,479
Speaker 2: that came together and made a recipe for a very

936
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 2: entertaining fight. And that little bit of everything is Forasili Limachenko.

937
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 2: I'll off for nearly a full year, you know, on

938
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: the front lines there in Ukraine in sort of like

939
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 2: a neighborhood battalion group that was protecting the area he

940
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: comes from. So he's been out of the game. And

941
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: he's also a slow starter, which I thought was adequately

942
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 2: pointed out by Tim Bradley and the broadcast that you know,

943
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 2: he was a slow starter against Tayo Fimo in that

944
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: big loss that he had a couple fights back, but

945
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: once he started to make the adjustments, you did see

946
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 2: the Loma of old come and boy did he make

947
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 2: some big time adjustments late when he really poured it on.

948
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 2: And I thought the division the decision was rightful in

949
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 2: his favor, but both of us really overlooked the potential

950
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: here for Jermaine Ortiz, who has had a big year

951
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 2: one on Showbox in the main event, then went on

952
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: to ESPN and retired Jamel Herring with a big decision win,

953
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 2: and Luke in this one. Look when someone's fighting their

954
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 2: former sparring partner, and we didn't necessarily like, you know,

955
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: Wilder against Heleni's, you never love that because you think, oh,

956
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: the bigger name, the better fighter of the two. He

957
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 2: already knows he can handle that guy. We do have

958
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: to be careful on putting the scarlet letter on those

959
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 2: type of situations because then in this case, particularly Jermaine

960
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 2: Ortiz was confident from the time he put in more

961
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 2: than a year ago preparing Lomachenko for his win over

962
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 2: Richard Comy. And you know, when you are sparring, you're

963
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: trying to mimic somebody else. And as he talked about

964
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: in the lead up to here, he didn't show Lomachenko

965
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 2: during that sparring that he can switch stances, that he

966
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: can do some things. When you've got an unbeaten, hungry

967
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: guy and Maynorties who's trying to make his moment, and

968
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: he was in this fight. You know that whole adage

969
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 2: of well he doesn't know how to lose. I think

970
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 2: that was the case. Ser Jermaine Nortiz fought his balls off.

971
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 2: Was he better in the first half than the second half, Yes,

972
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 2: But he switched dances as you indicated, his speed was was,

973
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 2: you know, faster than I expected it to look against

974
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 2: somebody like Lomachenko. And even though he's not really a

975
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: pure boxer and not really a pure puncher, his hybrid

976
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 2: game was was enough to make this a compelling fight,

977
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: a very high level fight that I thought was the

978
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 2: right test for Lomachenko to prepare him for that for

979
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: the next time. He's ready to swing big, which looks

980
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 2: to be Devin Haney, who was in attendance in that

981
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 2: front row has all four lightweight titles. Lomachenko the former

982
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 2: unified champion in this division before his loss to Teo

983
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 2: Femo that, Yeah, sometimes even you and I need to

984
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 2: slow a bit and let the fight play out because

985
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: you can't win or lose on paper. And in this case,

986
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 2: Jermaine Artist fought his ass off, tried his best, but

987
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 2: I think the guile, the ability to switch, the ability

988
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: to cut those angles and get right in Ortiza's face

989
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 2: with the kind of you know, curious crafty punches he

990
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 2: doesn't seem coming. I mean, I mean, look, Lomachenko has

991
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: always been the master at doing sort of a reverse

992
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: two punk punch combination. You want to see the best

993
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 2: of it, look at up his knockout of Rocky Martinez

994
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: Roman Rocky Martinez, which happened in the same arena a

995
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 2: bunch of years back in a smaller weight class. He

996
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 2: doesn't lead with the jab. He leads with the powerhand,

997
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 2: but then comes back with squaring up with that straight jab.

998
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 2: He landed that on Ortiz and in key moments to

999
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: take control of rounds. He scored a ridiculous knockout over

1000
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: Martinez that I mentioned with that he's just freaking crafty.

1001
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 2: We knew that coming in. It took him longer than

1002
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 2: I think a lot of us thought, but once he

1003
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 2: figured that out and switched it up in the end, Look,

1004
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 2: it was the scorecards read seven five eighty four and

1005
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 2: nine to three. Yeah, somewhere in that seven five eighty

1006
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 2: four I think was the best scorecard overall. But I

1007
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: like that Loma Chanko was tested. Could you be critical

1008
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 2: and come out of this going man, maybe he's not

1009
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: still the same guy. Well, look he is aging right.

1010
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 2: You also sometimes can only put forth a certain performance

1011
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 2: against you know, how you prepare, how you assume the

1012
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: other guy is gonna be. He made the adjustments he

1013
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 2: needed to. I think Ortiz overachieved Lomachenko's agent just a bit,

1014
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 2: but I don't think that slows down the momentum of

1015
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 2: what can be a great fight between Lomachenko and Devin

1016
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 2: Haney and won that Lumachenko still can win because he

1017
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 2: can do things that nobody else can. At the end

1018
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,720
Speaker 2: of the day, I enjoyed the fight. I think Jermaine

1019
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,439
Speaker 2: Artist grows from this loss. I think he showed out

1020
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: on the very elite pound for pound level that he

1021
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 2: can be in a fight like this. So I think,

1022
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 2: all in all, is very happy with what I saw.

1023
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't. I don't really have much to add

1024
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 1: to that, BC, except to say that, as you indicated,

1025
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: they brought Devin Haney in the ring. He was doing

1026
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: a little bit of stuff, not for commentary but that

1027
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: the desk, but they were talking to him, and that

1028
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: looks to be what's next. I have to tell you

1029
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: I would have picked a year ago. Yeah, about a

1030
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: year ago, I still would have picked Limachenko. I think

1031
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 1: after what we've seen recently, I'm going to go with Hani.

1032
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've made that switch yet. I

1033
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: don't know how you feel, but I tend to think

1034
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: that this is not a this is not a version

1035
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: of Lomachenko who can't win BC. But I'm not believing

1036
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: that this isn't a somewhat somewhat diminished version of him

1037
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: relative to his peak whenever you want to say that

1038
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: is I just don't feel like it's exactly the same guy,

1039
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: and I feel like just that amount of slippage is

1040
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: all that needs to happen for Hany to be a

1041
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:25,959
Speaker 1: little bit better.

1042
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 2: We need to remind ourselves that Lomachenko is operating in

1043
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: a division that's that's you know, upwards of two divisions

1044
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 2: above where his actual physical prime was. And a reminder

1045
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 2: that he only left the one hundred and twenty six

1046
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 2: and one hundred and thirty pound divisions because he got

1047
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 2: to a point where nobody would fight him so already

1048
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 2: over his head in hindsight, did he start too late

1049
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: against Teyo Femo? He rallied back nearly forced to draw. Yes,

1050
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: Let's also remember that that version of Tao Femo, you

1051
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 2: don't find too many fighters that, you know, with that

1052
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 2: level of speed, power and creativity that Lomachenko lost to.

1053
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 2: I would favor Devin Haney. I really believe, along with

1054
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 2: Sha Kur Stevenson moving forward in this sport, that these

1055
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 2: two are the goods. These two will be competing for

1056
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 2: powfer pound lordship and hopefully they'll end up fighting each other.

1057
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 2: Now that they're in the same division, sooner than later.

1058
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: But you want to talk about the ultimate test for Hani.

1059
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 2: He did what he had to do. He took the

1060
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 2: two fights in Australia against Cambosis. He's got the four titles.

1061
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 2: This is going to be an interesting fight. This is

1062
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 2: the ultimate chess mess in so many ways. But Luke,

1063
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 2: we need a Lomanchenko who's going to enter that fight

1064
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 2: realizing that he can't he can't start too slow because

1065
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 2: those openings may not end up being there against somebody

1066
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 2: who's longer than him. And Haney, who has top level speed,

1067
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 2: who has great IQ, who's got some pop on there.

1068
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see what it looks like. At

1069
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: least Lomachenko passed the test. Now we can make that

1070
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 2: fight happen. But I do want to reiterate that size difference.

1071
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 2: Tell me if I'm wrong. The first three or four rounds,

1072
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 2: Jermaine Ortiz, who again fought aggressive, was quick. Just size

1073
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 2: difference alone, it looked like he was had the potential

1074
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: to overwhelm Lomachenko during the the entire night. So he's

1075
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: giving up a lot in these weight classes, which means,

1076
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 2: particularly in the second half of the fight. When he

1077
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 2: turns it up, he's got to do more than expected

1078
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 2: to beat somebody like Hanne.

1079
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think, you know, look at what Arties

1080
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: did in the first few rounds to gain success. He

1081
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: was behind at pumping jab that job was all over

1082
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 1: Lomachenko and setting range and it was hurting him. And

1083
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: that's something that Haney really excels at. He has a phenomenal, active, working,

1084
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: educated job, so that could be proof. I also like

1085
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: your point to BC, like Lemachenko starts slow, which is true.

1086
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: Seems to me he's okay. The fight against Lopez was

1087
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: really bad, but in general, I'm seeing him a little

1088
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: bit slower and slower each time to make adjustments, very slightly,

1089
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: but takes some you know, I would have thought he

1090
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: would have made adjustments a little bit sooner in this fight.

1091
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: You could say, third round he got a little bit

1092
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: changed up, but even then, you know, he was still

1093
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: having to work from behind in certain circumstances. So again,

1094
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: he's just a little bit little bit off of that

1095
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: elite pedestal he was on for a little while, and

1096
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: I think that makes him a lot more fun given

1097
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 1: how much more parody there are in these fights now. Last,

1098
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 1: but not least, BC takes us to Katie Taylor, who

1099
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: just wiped the floor with Karen Elizabeth Kattabahal winning ninety eight,

1100
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: ninety two, ninety nine, ninety one and then the one hundred

1101
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: ninety one. Good lord, she improved to twenty two, and oh, BC,

1102
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: she wants a rematch with Amanda Serrano in Dublin. Is

1103
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: this the biggest no brainer in boxing, certainly in women's boxing.

1104
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 2: Oh no, no question about it. Croke Park, make it happen, right,

1105
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 2: this is the fight. Katie Taylor's thirty six. She kept

1106
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 2: that unbeaten record alive. She did what she had to do.

1107
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 2: She absolutely dominated. This was what was this her first

1108
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 2: performance since the Serrano fight?

1109
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: I believe that's right.

1110
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, the window is getting a little smaller's closed,

1111
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: and she's not as young. You know, she's not that young.

1112
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 2: She had a long amateur career, but she's the ultimate

1113
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 2: consistent professional. The only one that gave her any kind

1114
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 2: of trouble, legitimate trouble was Delphine Pursuon. She came back

1115
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 2: and ran that back, that rematch and clearly won. And

1116
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 2: now she's had that fight with Serrana. I went back

1117
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 2: and looked up I scored that fight ninety six ninety

1118
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 2: four for Katie Taylor. There certainly was an argument for

1119
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 2: Serrono and it ended up being a split decision, but

1120
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 2: we do need to see that a second time. And

1121
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 2: look the first I mean it's crazy how much that

1122
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 2: first fight, which was in Madison Square Garden the Mecca,

1123
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 2: exceeded expectations, had the weight of the world on their shoulders.

1124
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 2: Of Like, if anyone is ever gonna watch a women's

1125
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 2: boxing fight and never has before watched that one, that

1126
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 2: one was one of the best fights we've ever seen.

1127
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: It deserves to be, you know, run back in the

1128
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:40,439
Speaker 2: biggest possible setting. And given the fact that Taylor did

1129
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: win the first one, she's unbeaten. She's the bigger star.

1130
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 2: Although Sororono more decorated across multiple weight classes, let's do

1131
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 2: that for Katie Taylor. I mean, look, I don't know

1132
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 2: how much longer she wants to keep doing this. You know,

1133
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 2: could she fight Alisa Baumgardner or could MICHAELA. Mayer win

1134
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 2: back her title and we can do fights. Yeah, there's

1135
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 2: always you know, we're in a good spot women's boxing wise,

1136
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: where there are some interesting options of people who can

1137
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 2: move up or down into Katie Taylor's window. But you know,

1138
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 2: if she fought Serrano a second time in her home

1139
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,919
Speaker 2: country there in a spectacle, and if she was able

1140
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 2: to win it, I wouldn't be upset she walked away

1141
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 2: right there, She's put forth a career that is going

1142
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 2: to be hard to rival, you know, in the history

1143
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 2: of women's boxing. Obviously we've already had great legends, you know,

1144
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: Leila Lee, Hall of Famer, retired undefeated, didn't fight a

1145
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: wolf though. Well you know, a different story for another day, though,

1146
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 2: But it seems like Taylor's trying to fight everybody she

1147
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 2: possibly can. So this was the win she needed to

1148
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 2: keep the wheels moving to fend those four titles. But

1149
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 2: let's just you know, put a mythical date on that

1150
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 2: calendar for next year. And I don't think you can

1151
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 2: overblow how how great that first fight was and how

1152
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 2: big this event could be for the sport if they

1153
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 2: do it again.

1154
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 1: Certainly agree with all of that. All right, BC, that's

1155
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: it for our top five topics. Let's do it now.

1156
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 1: We're the folks, get to ask us questions, oh real.

1157
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: Quick, Just just want to mention it uh Deszone had

1158
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 2: had a separate boxing broadcast, Golden Boy Todd Grisham on

1159
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 2: the call, big win for unbeating William Zapeida stepped in

1160
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 2: there against Jojo Diaz Junior, who as we know, is

1161
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 2: as battle tested as it comes in the smaller weight classes,

1162
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 2: always trying to fight the biggest name available. Basically shut

1163
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 2: him out across the board, undefeated from Mexico. Don't confuse

1164
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 2: him with jose' Zepeeda from top rank, who's gonna be

1165
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 2: fighting for a one hundred and forty pound title against

1166
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 2: Ruguru coming up. But this other Zapeida is coming on.

1167
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 2: Lukey handled Jojo Diaz in a way that I didn't

1168
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 2: see coming, so big ups to him on it as

1169
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 2: he continues his unbeaten run.

1170
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: There you have it all right. Time now for dms

1171
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: from the Diggity Dogs. Let's get to it all right.

1172
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 1: As you guys know, we put up a post on

1173
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: Instagram on Sundays. You guys filled up with questions. The

1174
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: producers picked them. NBC rubs his eyes all right, BC

1175
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 1: from I think it's a ghost hardware after seeing Izzy

1176
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: he put those awful tournaments he had in Auckland. You're

1177
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: Ryah Hall and Anderson Silver Box. Is it safe to

1178
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: put to bed the idea that strikers at MMA have

1179
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: elite hands? But you see what do you think, Well, it's.

1180
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 2: Elite hands for their sport, right, for their particular sport. Yes,

1181
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 2: it's I don't know if it puts to rest that

1182
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 2: they have I don't know it's it's it's matchup based.

1183
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 2: I mean, look, if it wasn't for the fact that

1184
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 2: UFC fighters under contract aren't gonna leap out. When we

1185
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 2: were talking earlier about Jake Paul may need to escalate

1186
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 2: and find someone more his size, but also in the

1187
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 2: same kind of category where they've got a little bit

1188
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 2: of experience but not a ton you know, in a

1189
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 2: in a mythical world, wouldn't is he be the best

1190
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 2: matchup for him?

1191
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: Why is he.

1192
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 2: Who's bigger, can paunch, can move? You don't like the

1193
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 2: idea of some mythical Jake Paul is he boxing match?

1194
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 2: I mean you'd need Uncle Dana to get involved.

1195
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: And I would say, is he beats him? Is he

1196
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,720
Speaker 1: has real boxing experience, like professional.

1197
00:54:58,360 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 2: So is it that the boss at the end of

1198
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 2: the video game in this Jake Paul experiment of not

1199
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 2: fighting real boxers in their prime, but trying to make

1200
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 2: matchups with people that are famous for other reasons. That

1201
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,280
Speaker 2: that's an interesting.

1202
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: One with it. If it were more available, i'd say yes,

1203
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: but it seems highly unlikely given the realities I would

1204
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: say this. I mean, I don't think folks understand just

1205
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: how different boxing is from regular MMA in terms of

1206
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: the striking. It's not the distance is different. There are

1207
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 1: obviously a lot of similar similarities that you want to incorporate,

1208
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,919
Speaker 1: but that's just not the same kind of fight. Also, yes,

1209
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: Jake Paul is highly selective about who he fights. There's

1210
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: that as well. But the other part is this too.

1211
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: Like again, we're gonna say it over and over again,

1212
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: Jake Paul's not a world level fighter. He's not half bad.

1213
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: He's not half bad. He's he's kind of decent for

1214
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: what he is. I wouldn't have said that after either

1215
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: of the Woodley fights. After this one. He's all right,

1216
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: he's alright, he's okay, Like he can do a little bit.

1217
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,959
Speaker 1: And because he is specializing in one kind of thing

1218
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: and he is very selective over who he fights, you're

1219
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: getting the results that you're getting. Does it mean that

1220
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: guys like Uriah Hall and Anderson's and is He in

1221
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: their primes don't have you know, relatively decent boxing games. Yeah,

1222
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: they're probably relatively decent boxing games. Is he perhaps the

1223
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: best among them, given that he actually has a fair

1224
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: amount of experience in that, But yeah, like different, dude.

1225
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 2: Not only is the footwork different, the stances there, I mean.

1226
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: Everything, range is different, the powers different, everything's different.

1227
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 2: So I mean, you could be a great boxer in

1228
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 2: the MMA sense and it doesn't app but it's not

1229
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 2: fully applical, but in the boxing sense unless you put

1230
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 2: in that work and you're able to do that. I

1231
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 2: mean that was why again, folks, you know it's easy

1232
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 2: now to do the whole Anderson Silva was a fifty

1233
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 2: year old well, first of all, he's forty seven, but

1234
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 2: you know, he also didn't get knocked out, He fought well,

1235
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 2: it was a fun fight. But it's easy now to

1236
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 2: focus only on how old Anderson silver was. But the

1237
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 2: reason why we focused on him being potentially the one

1238
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 2: that Jake reached too far was because he had made

1239
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 2: those adjustments to changing the MMA striking style to boxing

1240
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 2: and it had had you know, further experience than most

1241
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 2: you know, you pointed out, yeah, is he's a rare

1242
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 2: guy who has had some pro fights outside of this,

1243
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 2: and and and maybe could make that same type of

1244
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 2: transition had he wanted to. But yeah, I mean, you

1245
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 2: just have it's it's all a grain of salt.

1246
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 1: It's like you and I not only predicted that Silva

1247
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: would win, but I want to say this one more

1248
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: time very clearly that you know, listen, if you go

1249
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: out there and say, like, and I did say this,

1250
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: I did not think Jake was going to take this fight,

1251
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,919
Speaker 1: because I remember when Dana said it. I was like, oh, yeah,

1252
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: Dana's right, he'll never take this fight. If the guy

1253
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: actually does the thing that you say he won't do

1254
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: and then wins in the thing you say he normally

1255
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: won't do but can't do, you you need you need

1256
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: to be consistent here and not move the goalposts to

1257
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: be like, well, Anderson's forty seven. You need to say, yeah,

1258
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: the dude's better than I thought he was. I'll say it,

1259
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: he's better than I thought he is. Now again, after this,

1260
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: the two Woodley fights, I did not necessarily have that

1261
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: high an opinion. Even now, I recognize he's nowhere close

1262
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: to anything elite for the professional ranks. He's all right,

1263
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: He's not half bad, and that's that's that's a pretty

1264
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: that's a that's a decent thing to BBC.

1265
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 2: Do you think Silva kind of stole the perfect opponent? Like,

1266
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 2: you know, I know, Jake may end up fighting a

1267
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 2: Tommy Fury, and you know, both Tommy Fury and Rockman

1268
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 2: are in the same category where they are real boxers,

1269
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 2: but there's some legitimate questions about either their work ethic

1270
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 2: or their effectiveness. I mean, Chaves Junior really was the

1271
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 2: perfect opponent for Jake, but Silva kind of kind of

1272
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 2: took that from him and exposed that.

1273
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it seems that way. It seems like what

1274
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: I mean, God, you know who comes out looking terrible

1275
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: in all of this is Chavez Junior. My lord, you know,

1276
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: I mean, his his stock after this. It's not like

1277
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: we take away what Anderson did to him, because we

1278
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: saw it. It was actually pretty impressive what he was

1279
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: able to do. But in terms of what we can

1280
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: now say about the stock, or ability or even the

1281
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: care level we have for a Chavez Junior at this point,

1282
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: good lord, it's sunk even lower after this. But I

1283
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: just I mean, Amma, fans, if you went out there

1284
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: and said he couldn't do this and he wouldn't do it,

1285
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: and then he goes and fucking does it. Dude, you

1286
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: owe him a little bit of respect, said I said

1287
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: he wouldn't do it. I said he couldn't do it.

1288
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: He fucking did. Like, you just have to take your

1289
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: l like a man, recognize this dude's a little bit

1290
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: better than you thought he was, and move on to

1291
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: the next. It's not that hard, all right.

1292
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 2: The whole idea about the specialization of skills. So I

1293
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 2: mean it's like, you know, are the people that win

1294
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 2: the gold medal in the Olympic to Caathlon, are they

1295
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 2: threats to win the gold and every you know, in

1296
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 2: every individual category. No, they're not, right, It's it's a

1297
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 2: it's an event made to showcase how well rounded you

1298
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 2: could be.

1299
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: Right.

1300
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 2: Mixed martial arts has that in the title. It's mixed.

1301
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 2: It can show you know, you can win with one discipline,

1302
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, to be consistent

1303
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 2: into into and to win on the highest level, you've

1304
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 2: got to be able to do it all. So it

1305
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that if you pull I mean, we saw

1306
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 2: when Brendan Schopp tried to grapple that.

1307
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: Guy, right, Uh, Cyborg of BRAYU.

1308
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, we saw what happened there.

1309
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,919
Speaker 1: Luke was not the most fun. But you know again,

1310
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: it's like people can't seem to realize that, Like the

1311
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: reason why they're lashing out at Jake is because he's

1312
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: winning in this contest between himself and MMA. He's the

1313
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: one who keeps getting the per hand and they just

1314
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: can't stand it. It's like, maybe just come to peace

1315
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: with it all right at Jimmy Underscore read BC. What

1316
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: do you guys think about Askar Askarov requesting his release

1317
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: from the UFC and apparently being granted. I think I

1318
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: can hear BC's tears through the screen.

1319
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 2: BC, you go first, No, I don't have tears through

1320
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 2: the screen. Look first of all, I like, you know,

1321
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 2: we have the same rumor of the week before as

1322
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 2: Pyotr jan from DC considering leaving. His situation is different

1323
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 2: than Askruff. I mean, askrof didn't make weight right and

1324
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 2: that fight got pulled. That's what happened light last.

1325
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 1: Time something like that.

1326
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, if he wants to go somewhere else, that's fine.

1327
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 2: I want to live in a world where somebody can go,

1328
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 2: you know what, this is just not working out for me.

1329
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 2: Can I get out of my deal? It's rare when happens.

1330
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 2: That's why we kind of talked to Corey Anderson that

1331
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 2: time on the RSD couch. Everyone's situation is unique, but

1332
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 2: I wouldn't cry over this. If Askrov's like, f this,

1333
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 2: I want to go somewhere else, then let's see it. Luke,

1334
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 2: he's going to be a threat as long as he

1335
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 2: can get his weight on track. He's going to be

1336
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 2: a threat to win a world title in any organization

1337
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 2: as he was in the UFC. Just was unable to

1338
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 2: fully realize that despite having a draw with the you know,

1339
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 2: with the former champion there in Brandon Moreno, and really

1340
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 2: only losing in a fight with with Kaikr France in

1341
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 2: which you know he may have come back too early

1342
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 2: and it was close, didn't quite do enough. Wasn't that

1343
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 2: full capacity. I want to see this guy have his

1344
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 2: chance to be his best. If UFC's just not working

1345
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 2: out for him and he can get out of it,

1346
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 2: go go, dude.

1347
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: I did see it again. I want to be clear

1348
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: that's not confirmed in any way, but I did see

1349
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: some reports indicate that he may have some kind of

1350
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 1: long term injury he's dealing with, or some kind of

1351
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: ailment that he's trying to work through that that could

1352
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 1: be part of the reason for this, So we'll have

1353
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: to wait and see. It sucks for the division.

1354
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 2: By New World to live by in life. You don't

1355
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 2: like where you're at, and you can go, go get

1356
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 2: out of that toxic relationship. If it's not working out

1357
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 2: for you. At the UFC, you want out and they

1358
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 2: let y'all go. If this is the worst episode in

1359
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 2: Morning Combat history and you're sick of Luke's jacket and

1360
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 2: the name Jake Paul, don't go. Don't buy his fights.

1361
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 2: Don't show up on Mondays when we have tech issues

1362
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 2: coming off of a big flight and we're all angry

1363
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 2: and tired.

1364
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: Go. I think it's just you who's angry and tired.

1365
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: I feel pretty well, well well refreshed. Okay, all right,

1366
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 1: bc AT it's not cage fighting. This is a weird

1367
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: question because I don't think that they will be. But

1368
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: so far, why has the UFC been unwilling to introduce

1369
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: an interim featherweight title despite Vulcan not being available to

1370
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 1: defend for potentially twelve months. They will put one in, right,

1371
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 1: it seems like a foregone conclusion.

1372
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, they will, because that's what they do. And yeah,

1373
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 2: we already we already laid out the good and the

1374
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 2: bad with that.

1375
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: But oh, BC, how about this. If Volcal's in there

1376
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: and I don't imagine this is gonna happen, but let's

1377
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: say he goes in there and then just Al Connor

1378
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: McGregor Jose aldoism just one shot some blams, so he's

1379
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: got like no injury to deal with, like he feels fresh.

1380
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: Then they may have some choices to make. But the

1381
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 1: chance of that happening is what close, not quite but

1382
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: close to zero something like that.

1383
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, what type of substances do you think Connor's

1384
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 2: taking for this roadhouse acting thing? Because remember the time

1385
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 2: Sevest Saloon got caught in Australia with like seven pounds

1386
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 2: of hgh.

1387
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know what substance he's taking, but based

1388
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: on what he's putting on social media, I'm going to

1389
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 1: say all of them.

1390
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 2: Stana's is all.

1391
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say all of them.

1392
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 2: Okay, Win Strahl, Yeah, yeah, whatever, men, John.

1393
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: The good news is because the adults are here, The

1394
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 1: anti doping adults are here. You really have great transparency

1395
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 1: about it all. So I really appreciate that they're here

1396
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 1: and that they've really done what they said they're gonna do.

1397
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 1: So shouts to that when.

1398
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 2: You finally make the decision, I know you're close, but

1399
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 2: you're being a little wishy washy when you finally buy

1400
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 2: in on this TRT move for your own personal life, Luke,

1401
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 2: I want you to go deeper than TRT. I want

1402
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 2: you to fight. We'll find out exactly what Ben Johnson

1403
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 2: took at the eighty eight Olympics. Remember when he just

1404
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 2: smoked Carl Lewis by like, you know, three body lengths.

1405
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 2: We got to get you on that, Luke.

1406
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: It is tempting. I have so many dudes in my

1407
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 1: DMS telling me about all the ways they've taken steroids

1408
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 1: and how much it's helped their lives. I'm close. I'm close.

1409
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 2: Well, look at look at Lorenzo for Tita. How happy

1410
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 2: he is?

1411
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: He looks happy? All right? See, we got to move

1412
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 1: along from at telvin Ki papa favorite Halloween costume he

1413
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: put you ever weared, I'm gonna guess it's war Well.

1414
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 2: He's from Hawaii bra. So he's like, you know, he's

1415
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 2: just like chilling, right. You know, I like Telvinkpapa a lot.

1416
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: Learn how to conjugate these verbs people.

1417
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 2: All right, what's your most memorable Halloween costume you ever

1418
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 2: put together?

1419
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 1: In war? Dude, I've always had bad ones. I've always

1420
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 1: had me I've always had just shit costumes.

1421
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 2: I've always been lazy too. Of Like you know, I

1422
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 2: was that kid who would wear the Little League uniform

1423
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 2: out and just be like, yeah, I'm a baseball player.

1424
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 2: What do you want from me?

1425
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 1: Give me your candy? All right?

1426
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 2: I don't really care about this. I've never been a

1427
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 2: big Halloween guy. Luke Okay, we make jokes about it

1428
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 2: now that like.

1429
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: You know, see tookey is I mean, dude, she's been

1430
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 1: dressing up every day for the last like two weeks.

1431
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. Best costume I've ever weared where uh bc,

1432
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 1: I don't I do. All of mine have been fucking shit.

1433
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 1: I can say sometimes I've been like mocked for the

1434
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:55,919
Speaker 1: shitty ones I've had.

1435
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 2: Dude, and I went to a party in uh third grade,

1436
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 2: and remember, like there's good costumes or you could go

1437
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 2: down to like the cheap department store, Like we had

1438
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 2: AIM's department store, and you could buy for really cheap,

1439
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 2: like the plastic costume. It'd be like it looked like

1440
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 2: a poncho and they had the plastic mask with the string.

1441
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

1442
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 2: It was like the I bought a Gobot's costume and

1443
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 2: I wore that to that third grade Halloween party, thinking

1444
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 2: I was gonna be cool. I walked in and every

1445
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 2: single person had homemade costumes.

1446
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 1: Yes, dude, you know what My fucking parents man, my mom.

1447
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 1: My parents were split up, so I did virtually all

1448
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 1: of my Halloweens with my mom, except when I went

1449
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: to my dad's and he was just just just chucking

1450
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 1: out Roy Rogers Coupon's in nineteen eighties Washington, DC, just

1451
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 1: begging to be vandalized by every piece of shit in

1452
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 1: that neighborhood. Okay, and he was too, By the way,

1453
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 1: My parents always had this rule like you can be

1454
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 1: whatever you want, but you have to make it. I'm like, motherfucker,

1455
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: what is this fucking do? I look the master of

1456
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 1: arts and crafts. I can barely tie my fucking shoes.

1457
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: Why are you making me do this bullshit? So I

1458
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: had just the fucking shittiest costumes because I always had

1459
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: to make it. Like my parents are Tim Gunn and

1460
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 1: Heidi Klum, and I gotta go fucking walk it out

1461
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: and show him how I did it, you know, uh

1462
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: later on. So, I mean, I had like the world's

1463
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 1: shittiest ninja, the world's shittiest fucking you know anything. It

1464
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: was just all bad all the time.

1465
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 2: Show you how old I was at that Halloween party

1466
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 2: when I stood in the corner, embarrassed the whole party

1467
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 2: that I had the cheap like plastic costume, and everybody

1468
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 2: else's parents like for hours, you know, made them the most.

1469
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 2: They played Thriller on Vinyl the entire party. The dad

1470
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 2: just kept putting it back on, flipping it on record.

1471
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 2: Now Vinyl's cool, now, Luke. I mean, I mean, look,

1472
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 2: I don't have to like show you how cool vinyl is.

1473
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 2: I mean, look at this, Luke, look.

1474
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,959
Speaker 1: At this right here, that two Life Crew.

1475
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 2: No, but it's pretty awesome. And like I got another

1476
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 2: one for you, Luke, hold on.

1477
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: You're just showing us women's asses today. What are we doing?

1478
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 2: I mean, look at that. I got a lot of

1479
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 2: like rare ones, Luke, I mean, look, to this. Oh wait,

1480
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 2: maybe not that one. Maybe not that one. Yeah, yeah,

1481
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 2: well you know you get my point. What's old is new.

1482
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 2: But Luke, you know as a kid, you know, I'm

1483
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 2: so old that at that hallowing party they were playing

1484
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 2: it on ironically.

1485
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 1: You know you have that within reach because you've been

1486
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 1: spinning that record DJ Scribble.

1487
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 2: I shout out, shout out to my boy Enich from

1488
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 2: Nice Price Record in books in Rally, North Carolina. Sometimes

1489
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 2: he sends me some some fun records in the mail.

1490
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 1: So do you remember DJ Scribble from nineteen nineties MTV?

1491
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 2: Of course yes.

1492
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: So did you remember his famous trick where he used

1493
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: to drink a forty while he was he would scratch.

1494
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 2: Uh no, I don't remember that.

1495
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: So he turned out it was all alive. You see,

1496
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 1: it was filled with apple juice. He later confessed he

1497
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 1: would never actually drink a forty and then scratch on

1498
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 1: our show. All right, last but not least last minute?

1499
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 2: You want to do like an Edward forty hands throwback

1500
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 2: one time? Because I was too old for that, Luke,

1501
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 2: I had like gotten out of the game by the.

1502
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 1: Time I have done Edward forty hands. Yeah, I've played

1503
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:00,040
Speaker 1: that stupid.

1504
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 2: Game we should do that one night on this show.

1505
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 1: Probably there's a lot of drinking I don't want to

1506
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 1: do all right. Lastly, from Jay's Graham twenty five, this

1507
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 1: is a weird question. I'm not sure how comfortable I

1508
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 1: am with it. Luke. If you could torture murder Brian

1509
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 1: in a Saw like way, which way would you choose.

1510
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 2: That's a reference to the to the fantastic first Saw

1511
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:19,719
Speaker 2: horror movie just a class.

1512
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 1: See. I wouldn't do the Saw thing where the guy

1513
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: was just laying on his face the whole time in

1514
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 1: that torture chamber, because I'm not that creative. But I

1515
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 1: got to say from what's the one with Brad Pitten

1516
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 1: Morgan Freeman the Heads in the Box seven.

1517
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 2: Oh a shout out to Wow Long Island, Luke all

1518
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 2: over that.

1519
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 1: Where he made the fat guy eat all that stuff

1520
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 1: and then like burst his stomach. I would just have

1521
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 1: never seen that station hot Dogs until you just went.

1522
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never seen that movie yet. I'll maybe I'll

1523
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 2: watch it so we could turn pretty.

1524
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 1: It's pretty. It's pretty good actually, although they're in the

1525
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,719
Speaker 1: detectives are using typewriters in the movie, so I'm guessing

1526
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 1: people who were born, you know, twenty years ago, and

1527
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 1: now watching movies like that are probably like, what the

1528
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 1: fuck were they living like back then? I'm not sure

1529
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 1: to tell you, but yeah, I probably just feed you

1530
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 1: to death. PC. How does that sound?

1531
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's really dark. So maybe we should

1532
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 2: just move on and get into like some dark like

1533
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,639
Speaker 2: videos of people getting injured really bad, especially old people.

1534
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 1: I'm ready for some elder abuse. Let's let's go.

1535
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, folks, this has not been the dream episode.

1536
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 1: You know. I got to say the Bill Cosby record

1537
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 1: really got me that way.

1538
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's the one highlight of it. You know, we

1539
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 2: try to be real. I mean, look, not everybody likes

1540
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 2: Jake Paul, so for some people, last week was a

1541
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 2: big mail in from this show.

1542
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,719
Speaker 1: I got it. We're done. Listen, listen, We're done until

1543
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 1: he fights whenever the next time he fights.

1544
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 2: I want people to know that through some of that,

1545
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 2: I mean, Jake Paul content was some great stuff. Did

1546
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,879
Speaker 2: you watch the pregame preview with us Danny and uh

1547
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 2: and Sean al Shoddy Luke? I mean that was that

1548
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:44,879
Speaker 2: was high comedy.

1549
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 1: Also, also, let me just say this, I want to

1550
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:50,799
Speaker 1: thank everyone who watched us do the commentary for the prelims.

1551
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 1: BC and I got to call the prelims, which, by

1552
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: the way, we were on the floor, we got to

1553
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,839
Speaker 1: call the prelimbs. The guy who runs all of Showtime

1554
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:01,759
Speaker 1: Boxing came over and wished us luck. Like I grant

1555
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 1: that some of you guys, you may not be interested

1556
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 1: in Jake Paul coverage. I get it, but on some level,

1557
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 1: if you care about me and BC at all, which

1558
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 1: you don't have to, but if you do, it was

1559
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 1: good for us. It was good for us to get

1560
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,480
Speaker 1: these reps. It was good for us to get this opportunity.

1561
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 1: I know BC is certainly also calling Showbox, which is

1562
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 1: a great thing for him, but for your boy like me,

1563
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 1: I don't get chances like that absently, these opportunities, so

1564
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 1: I gotta be grateful for him when they come. I

1565
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 1: was grateful for it, and I'm grateful for everybody who watched.

1566
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 2: Absolutely, we'll be back at it this coming Saturday. By

1567
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:31,560
Speaker 2: the way, Showtime Championship Boxing is back. Luke will be

1568
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 2: getting some prelim action again. You and I, so let's

1569
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 2: enjoy that. Okay, what I did, let's do it was

1570
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 2: I got off the plane and I complained about how

1571
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 2: tired I was, and I was in the bathroom for

1572
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 2: a long time.

1573
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 1: I gotta say, BC, this was the grumpiest I've ever

1574
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 1: seen you on a trip. This was the grumpiest I've

1575
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: ever seen you. Now it was aided by the fact

1576
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 1: or why I should say, worsened exacerbated by the fact

1577
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,719
Speaker 1: that we had to drive seven and a half hours

1578
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 1: each way to get to the fucking stadium.

1579
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 2: I mean, we were like forty minutes away. But that's fine,

1580
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 2: So luke ill me. I apologize for that. You know,

1581
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 2: sometimes we hit certain ruts in life and then we

1582
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 2: got to look in the mirror and realize that. You know,

1583
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 2: I'm asking him to change his ways. So I'm gonna

1584
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 2: I gotta clean up. Look, I gotta clean up in

1585
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 2: a few key life categories. So that starts today. All right,

1586
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 2: you won't see me that angry again. Life is let's

1587
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 2: do it right. So what I did yesterday after I

1588
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:21,600
Speaker 2: got out of the restroom an hour later was I

1589
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 2: scoured the globe for the high and low, the good

1590
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 2: and the bad, the ugly on the internet, in combat

1591
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 2: sports and beyond. You can call it bi says fisays,

1592
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 2: But I call it the share of the week. Have

1593
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 2: you seen it? That's the question.

1594
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 1: Have you fucking seen it?

1595
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 2: All right? Hey, UFC Fight Night from the Apex middleweight

1596
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:44,679
Speaker 2: Trey Shawn Gore.

1597
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 1: Oh I saw this.

1598
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 2: He choked out Josh Fremded Louke. What do you call this?

1599
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 2: This was great?

1600
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: I forget what the actual name of it is, but

1601
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,680
Speaker 1: basically it's just an upside down kind of guillotine. He's

1602
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: gonna twist here and turns. It's a guillotine here and

1603
01:11:58,080 --> 01:11:58,839
Speaker 1: then he turns.

1604
01:11:59,320 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 2: Wow.

1605
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 1: I think they call this like the Exorcist guillotine. It's

1606
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 1: just a guillotine, but instead of him being faced down

1607
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 1: on the mat, he's face up.

1608
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 2: I bet you he did that just for Halloween. Yeah,

1609
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 2: just to celebrate Halloween. That's fantastic. Wow. All right, uh Luke,

1610
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 2: let's go to uh the audio here of Khalil Rountree Junior.

1611
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 2: I did want to shout him out. He had a

1612
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 2: nice wind open the main card, a split decision over

1613
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 2: Dustin Jacoby. He also took on some hecklers in the

1614
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 2: post fight interview. Let's listen, yeah, exchanging me with shot

1615
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:40,520
Speaker 2: the fuck up.

1616
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 1: Up your little prick, and they should just pull in

1617
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 1: Bob Arams like Bob tell those hecklers to shut up.

1618
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 2: Look. I don't know if this guy deserves a hashtag

1619
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 2: holy hammer, but Roman Deleedese in that preliminary main event.

1620
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 2: Drop the hammer on Phil Dawes. Damn.

1621
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 1: Look at this right hand.

1622
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 3: Bang.

1623
01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 2: Oh, you know what, he looks like a guy who

1624
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 2: has a very healthy and happy personal life, Luke.

1625
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 1: He look like he was in he had a good camp.

1626
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 1: Good fucking lord. This fucking right hand got lee. Damn.

1627
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 2: I mean, we don't talk about Roman a lot. He's

1628
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 2: got some power. He's a he's an animal.

1629
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: He can do it. He can do it all right.

1630
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 2: He likes beautiful women too.

1631
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 1: Luke, Yes, he does. Who does right?

1632
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, Paul, pay your time pay per view from Glendale.

1633
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 2: Here is probably the highlight of the week. When we

1634
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 2: sat down and we got licked by a horse and

1635
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 2: then we got sent to hell by Eriah Hall. Let's ready.

1636
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 2: I really can't all this is for show. I can't

1637
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 2: stand either of these clowns.

1638
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 1: Yes, fair in fairness, we can't stand as either, so uh,

1639
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,759
Speaker 1: I understand you or you' riah, I understand you.

1640
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 2: Good Win by the way, Riyah leviyon Bell can fight

1641
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 2: a little, right.

1642
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 1: I was. I wasn't you know what he walked of?

1643
01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 1: Like all the people I walked away like most impressed

1644
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 1: by it might be Belle like Bell looked like surprisingly good.

1645
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 2: I think Eiah thought what we all thought, that he's

1646
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 2: just gonna walk him down and kind of just body

1647
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:09,799
Speaker 2: him like look at Uriah kind of thought the Floyd

1648
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 2: versus Connor style, you know, heavy high guard just walked in,

1649
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 2: but he kept getting tagged, and I think he had

1650
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 2: to make some key adjustments there, Luke, real, Oh no,

1651
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 2: Let's go to Jake and Anderson. I don't know if

1652
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 2: you saw this during their commercial suit shoot you who

1653
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 2: gets the who's the better dancer of the two here?

1654
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 1: I mean, is this even in question? Anderson's out here

1655
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 1: like funk crip walking, and Jake is just flailing like

1656
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 1: a fifty five year old man at his teen's daughter's party.

1657
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 2: I mean, Jake looks like me at a wedding, Luke,

1658
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 2: underrated skill set of your boy BC can tear up

1659
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 2: the wedding dance floor, can.

1660
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 1: Tear it up all right, See I cannot, but I've

1661
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 1: taken salsa lessons, so if I have to roll that out.

1662
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 1: I can at least navigate that path a little bit.

1663
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 2: All right. You know our producer Ashley, I've bragged about

1664
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 2: my dancing and hope that she would invite more and

1665
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 2: combat to our upcoming wedding and no, no, yeah thanks

1666
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 2: ash Real big fan of yours. Okay, hey, look real

1667
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 2: Real did recognize Reel in the locker room in Glendale.

1668
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 2: How about the aforementioned David Benavite is the super middleweight

1669
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:17,680
Speaker 2: superstar dab.

1670
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 1: It ja wats one time, two times. Let's see hold on,

1671
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 1: hold on.

1672
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 2: Three, fourth, go go for it a fourth time?

1673
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 1: Please, that's four, hold on five, five, lengthy one at five.

1674
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 2: If you get to six, you gotta bang at that.

1675
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 1: I mean they have to go on a first date. Now,

1676
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 1: they just have to go date second base, all right, Hey,

1677
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:59,759
Speaker 1: Luke onn that times eight times, eight times eight DAPs

1678
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 1: the course of like thirty seconds. Case, just like BC

1679
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 1: has dapped me up that many times in our lifetime.

1680
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:09,639
Speaker 2: That's the amount of hugs your dad has given you, Luke.

1681
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 1: Yes, you could count him on ahead a hand and

1682
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 1: a half.

1683
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 2: We mentioned that we were we were hashtag blessed enough

1684
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,600
Speaker 2: to be on the call for the preliminary bouts of

1685
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 2: the Showtime pay per view card on YouTube. Thanks for watching.

1686
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 2: Here is up and coming heavyweight Jeremiah Milton delivering the boom.

1687
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:30,679
Speaker 1: It's remarkable. Yeah, a very squirrely opponent.

1688
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 2: Combination looked like sometimes trying to make them felt kind

1689
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:35,679
Speaker 2: of something.

1690
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 1: Oh and then he talked to him.

1691
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Milt tends to fighting his mark. Why did he

1692
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 2: that is it?

1693
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 1: Milton talks him afterwards by doing a benef the.

1694
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 2: Shivvy u bc n LT the the up and coming

1695
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 2: U Progressive Boxing duo. I mean, look, we've got that real.

1696
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 2: I think I dabbed you verbally, you know, nine times

1697
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 2: on that broadcast.

1698
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 1: You did all right?

1699
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 2: Hey, Ashton Silv had a huge first round finish in

1700
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 2: the cole Man event, but he turned some heads with

1701
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 2: his whole Halloween costume offering Minion style. Your thoughts. He's

1702
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:18,759
Speaker 2: eighteen years old. We can't judge him, right.

1703
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 1: No, I can't judge him. And my daughter loves the

1704
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 1: Minion so this would have been her favorite fighter.

1705
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:25,719
Speaker 2: All right, This one's for two key, thank you. Ashton

1706
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 2: did look good by the way he carried himself.

1707
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 1: With well, he looked sharp, sharp, all right.

1708
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:32,599
Speaker 2: After the fight. The big news was Jake Paul talking

1709
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 2: some ish to Dana White. Let's hear a little bit

1710
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 2: of that.

1711
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, Dana, Dana w Bro, you said I wouldn't do this,

1712
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 4: and I did it, and with flying colors. But you

1713
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 4: know he's in hiding, you know, he he's trying to

1714
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 4: do everything he can to stop my run, to sabotage

1715
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:57,799
Speaker 4: my fights.

1716
01:17:59,000 --> 01:17:59,680
Speaker 1: He hates me.

1717
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 4: He hates me, he hates what I'm doing, he hates

1718
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 4: I'm exposing his business.

1719
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 2: And now you know, we're going to.

1720
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 4: Band together and create a United Fighters Association to help

1721
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 4: UFC fighters, all MMA fighters and boxers to get more

1722
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 4: fighter pay long term healthcare. And that's a big, big

1723
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 4: undertaking that I've been wanting to do for the whole

1724
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 4: entire time of my career since I met Nikisa. I

1725
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 4: said to them on the first day, I want to

1726
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 4: make a fighters union. So man, Dana Way can suck

1727
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 4: this dick.

1728
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 1: That went aggressive. There are things like I want to

1729
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 1: have a fighters union, Suck my dick. Di know.

1730
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 2: Look, there have been people, since we tend to rate

1731
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 2: that tap bitch on this show, there have been people

1732
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:48,799
Speaker 2: that said, you're letting Jake off easy, for that tattoo

1733
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 2: he has over his ear on his head.

1734
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 1: I didn't see the one on his So some of

1735
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 1: his tattoos are like, eh, some of the newer ones

1736
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 1: are very good. I've not really paid less attention to

1737
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 1: that one. Listen, I'll let him know I give a shit.

1738
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 1: You know I got bad tattoos too.

1739
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 2: So well, let the road to Jake Paul Versus Nate

1740
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 2: Diaz begin, and it did begin Saturday before Jake's fight.

1741
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 2: This is Nate Diaz in the locker outside the locker room,

1742
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 2: slap in the yoga instructor for Jacks.

1743
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, the guy with the tats all over his head.

1744
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 1: There is like the meditation dude, and Nate slapped him up.

1745
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 1: That was fucking hilarious. Talk to him about it afterwards.

1746
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 1: He denied all wrongdoing BC, but also said it was funny.

1747
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well it continued from there. Here is Team Paul

1748
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 2: and Team NDA throwing shit at each other. I mean,

1749
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:37,599
Speaker 2: what was happening here?

1750
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 1: Yeah. My understanding was I talked to a few of

1751
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 1: the people and at least from the Nick Das sign

1752
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 1: or on the Nate ds sign, and what they were

1753
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 1: saying was the day would just essentially cross paths at

1754
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 1: the wrong time, and that one of the guys on

1755
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 1: the team, Paul, was getting mouthy, but who the hell knows.

1756
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 2: All right, there was people tossing drinks. It looked like

1757
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 2: the Palace brawl or something. It was wild. All right,

1758
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 2: Let's go to Belatur two eighty seven from Milan. Hey, Luke,

1759
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:02,639
Speaker 2: Fabian Edwards and co main event used his brother Leon's

1760
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 2: high kick to Rock Connor McGregor boy Charlie Ward.

1761
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:10,759
Speaker 1: Here. Look at that he did it backwards because before

1762
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:12,639
Speaker 1: it was a punch fake and then that there it goes.

1763
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:14,599
Speaker 1: That's what it was right there, the last.

1764
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 2: One he would get the victory. Uh, nice way. I

1765
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 2: mean Fabian can fight a little right, Yeah.

1766
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:21,639
Speaker 1: He's pretty good. I mean his brother's very very special,

1767
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 1: but he's a good fighters.

1768
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 2: As they pointed out in the broadcast, John Jones couldn't

1769
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:28,679
Speaker 2: even knock out Machieta.

1770
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:30,640
Speaker 1: Well, I mean they're getting a little bit ahead of

1771
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 1: themselves with that one. It's like, you know, come on,

1772
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 1: all right.

1773
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 2: Hey, like Luke Luke uh light heavyweight Luke trainor not

1774
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:41,640
Speaker 2: really to Luke Thomas. Check out this front kick he

1775
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,640
Speaker 2: used to set up the takedown en route to his

1776
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 2: first round submission win over Lucas Alcina. Not exactly Silva belfor,

1777
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 2: but it was it was nice.

1778
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 1: Hey, you know what got him confused? Pot has brought

1779
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 1: us transferred to his defense and enabled him to get

1780
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 1: his forehead inside of his head contact of the torso,

1781
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 1: which is really all you need right there.

1782
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 2: And we know Belator undercards usually give us one sided Massacres.

1783
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 2: Here was Bandamwaight Sarvidzan comete off with a KO one

1784
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 2: via kick to the gut. Damn.

1785
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was brutal as shit. Oh oh and it

1786
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 1: just he said, no, Moss, don't blame him. That shit

1787
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 1: probably hurt.

1788
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 2: As an NAFLD survivor. Luke, I take umbrage with that

1789
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 2: all right. Elsewhere in boxing, the top rank undercard from

1790
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 2: New York City. Last time we had Richard Torres Junior

1791
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,599
Speaker 2: on here, the Olympic medalist from the US. He sent

1792
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 2: that dude to parts unknown. He was back and he

1793
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 2: improved a four to oh with four KOs with this finish.

1794
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:41,799
Speaker 2: I kind of like this guy. Luk can punch.

1795
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:43,679
Speaker 1: I love him too. And this was a better opponent

1796
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 1: because the last one definitely was a pre diabetic gas

1797
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 1: station attendant. This was a little better, but he didn't

1798
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 1: fare much better in the end.

1799
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 2: Top rank loaded up this undercard with prospects. Here's eighteen

1800
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 2: year old Abdullah Mason. He improved to five and oh

1801
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 2: on this night with a fourth round stop it. Here's

1802
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,919
Speaker 2: some of his handiwork. Remember this name.

1803
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 1: Ooh beautiful left hand woo.

1804
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 2: But Luke one of the big winners in boxing for

1805
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 2: the weekend. How about thirty six year old former champion

1806
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 2: Keiko Martinez.

1807
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 1: He was on a designed car believe this one.

1808
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 2: Taken on Jordan Gill as a heavy underdog, and he

1809
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 2: scored a knockout after dropping Gill multiple times. They had

1810
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 2: a brawl. This was fun, fun theater.

1811
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 1: Here Kiko Martinez. I thought had seen his best days,

1812
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 1: but this was a hell of a performance by him.

1813
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 2: No question. I mean, I remember he lost to Carl

1814
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 2: Frantle like ten years ago for a title and he

1815
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 2: just keeps coming back and winning.

1816
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 1: This guy, and unlike other people who might be Dominican

1817
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 1: or Puerto Rican or whatever, he actually is Spanish BC.

1818
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 1: He is from Spain.

1819
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, indeed, indeed, uh Luke. One of my favorite

1820
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 2: rage songs is swing into the.

1821
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:51,799
Speaker 1: Fire Bound Bown Sleep Now in the fire.

1822
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 2: Oh no, not for this next guy, Luke, it's right

1823
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:57,560
Speaker 2: outside your door and not testify.

1824
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 1: Come on, oh you dumb piece of shit, white trash,

1825
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 1: fucking barn animal. Look look at this. Look at this

1826
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 1: barn animal.

1827
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:12,719
Speaker 2: This denim conduct fire. I mean that is that's.

1828
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 1: Great right there. I mean, first of all, you know,

1829
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 1: let the he who's without sending cast the first stone.

1830
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:17,640
Speaker 1: But I think you're a bit big to be on

1831
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 1: that swing there, big country.

1832
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, all right, hey, let's go to karate combat.

1833
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 2: Speaking of Halloween rape, Boss Routin and Wonder Boy Thompson's

1834
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 2: costume offerings.

1835
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 1: Well, I don't like desecration of the American flag, so

1836
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 1: that's not really my big get that.

1837
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 2: Come on, get out of here.

1838
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 1: What do you want me to say, BC, What do

1839
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 1: you want to say?

1840
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 2: Burning the like? Don't be like Rick Monday. If someone's

1841
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 2: burning a flag, okay, run out there and save it.

1842
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:45,679
Speaker 1: See are you aware of all at all about any

1843
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 1: of the requirements of the flag code, Because if you're not,

1844
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 1: you can just stop the conversation here.

1845
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 2: So when the Black Crows came out with that album

1846
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 2: cover for America with the American flag crotch, you were

1847
01:23:58,600 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 2: against that.

1848
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 1: Well, here's what I'd say, Like, I'm not against I'm

1849
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 1: not one of these guys who thinks the Supreme Court

1850
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 1: should ban flag burning and people should be able to

1851
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 1: do whatever they want with it legally. But if you're

1852
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 1: a big pro Americana guy, there is actually a way

1853
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:11,719
Speaker 1: you're supposed to treat the American flag I'm fully familiar

1854
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 1: with the fat Flag code terms. This is not that,

1855
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 1: this is not.

1856
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 2: Well, we gotta we gotta get out of here. Here's

1857
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 2: our KOs of the week speaking of Karate Combat, Luke,

1858
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on this one?

1859
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:27,679
Speaker 1: Brutal as shit du Karate Combat has like some fantastic highlights.

1860
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 1: Their PR guy lied to us and said they were

1861
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 1: gonna get us an interview with the Mountain.

1862
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 2: But Jones even likes that.

1863
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 1: Look at that, Yeah, I mean that's that overhand, right,

1864
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 1: was brutal.

1865
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 2: You know who works for Karate Combat, Luke?

1866
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 1: Who?

1867
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 2: Former MK producer you know what I'm talking about?

1868
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 1: Al Wendling.

1869
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:48,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Alex Windling shout out.

1870
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, shouts out YEA Karate Combat puts out a good

1871
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 1: a good product, all right. There are people I don't

1872
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 1: know about them, but the product's pretty good.

1873
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:57,560
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, that's our first offering for KOs of

1874
01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 2: the week. Let's go to the X Games for our

1875
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 2: second offering, the do Tour or whatever the hell. This is.

1876
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 1: Who I thought he was gonna hit it. I thought

1877
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:14,720
Speaker 1: he was gonna be here.

1878
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 2: Oh he hit it face first, Luke, to.

1879
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 1: Have a question for you at this press conference, flat,

1880
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:20,680
Speaker 1: Let's go.

1881
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 2: To Regional MMA. You know they always give us knockouts

1882
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:23,719
Speaker 2: of the week.

1883
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 1: Oh and she was standing tall to good lord.

1884
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, after that earned it? Okay, she earned it.

1885
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 2: I got one more for you. This is from the

1886
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:40,679
Speaker 2: Cage Fighting series. Here Sean da Silva turning his knee

1887
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 2: into a licensed weapon post a special hair. Oh damn, damn. Yoh,

1888
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 2: all right, let's turn for some mm A fighters in

1889
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 2: the water. Sometimes these people are just like one of us, Luke.

1890
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:06,759
Speaker 2: Here's Matt Brown with the old guitar, immortal style.

1891
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 1: Dude, he's good. Let's get a little lit zeppelin.

1892
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 2: Huh yeah, hey, fellows out, have you heard the news? Yeah,

1893
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 2: all right, there you go. Let's move on here. How

1894
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 2: about new Manza using some of his bonus money from

1895
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 2: Spectacular Knockouts to buy a new truck. Luke and look

1896
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 2: how happy he is.

1897
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 1: Good for him, dude, good for him.

1898
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 2: Joaquin Buckley one of my favorite fighters for real.

1899
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what all was exciting. Seems like he's

1900
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 1: a good guy. Uh, good for him, Good for him.

1901
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 2: It's a live show.

1902
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 1: He did. He followed me on Twitter recently too. Good

1903
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 1: shouts to him, dude, shouts.

1904
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 2: All right, Other MMA fighters in the wild, did you

1905
01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 2: see has Bulah's elebration of Islam Mahachev's title win.

1906
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:04,600
Speaker 1: Luke Carritt, You know I didn't.

1907
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 2: Fired up?

1908
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 1: Yes, but yeah, I gotta say he's fired up as shit.

1909
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 1: I love that.

1910
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Monday night football. Here's your

1911
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 2: dick kick of the week, brought to you by Mac Jones. Yeah,

1912
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 2: I got him right where it hurts.

1913
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:26,720
Speaker 1: Yep, with the studs up no less.

1914
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 2: Yes, studs laces out, studs up there you go. All right? Hey, look,

1915
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 2: let's do rate that tat MK donk style. Here's one

1916
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 2: of our one of our best fans, Josh Montgomery, huge

1917
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 2: music fan. Got He's this is not finished. This is

1918
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:42,719
Speaker 2: the beginning of his slash at you on his left arm.

1919
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 1: Well, without seeing it finished, it's hard to give a

1920
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 1: lot to say I would just say because the hair's

1921
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 1: got to be dark. The face is a little dark.

1922
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 1: It's gonna lighten up over time because it's new, so

1923
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 1: it's not like it's poorly done. But the shading is

1924
01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 1: a little heavy.

1925
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 2: Dude, that's bad on his right arm, he's got the

1926
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 2: wishy or hair pink Floyd cover. I mean he's got

1927
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 2: he's got some great things going on this show.

1928
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well we'll have to see when it's all healed,

1929
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 1: is the best way to answer I can give.

1930
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to baseball crowdfights. You know I

1931
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:18,719
Speaker 2: love this Mets versus Braves. Oh oh ship the Grom

1932
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:19,679
Speaker 2: with a big right hand.

1933
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 1: Oh dude, he got hit with dude, he got hit.

1934
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:24,479
Speaker 2: Dude.

1935
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 1: De Grom was doing double trouble over.

1936
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 2: Here there he is damn old Jacob pop.

1937
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 1: Oop, oh dude. And the best part is the guy

1938
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 1: with the blue shirt with his back turned. He just

1939
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 1: held him up to get popped. Watch, yeah, picks him up.

1940
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 1: Pop bop bop. Take that.

1941
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 2: Take that, Braves dirt bags. All right, let's go to

1942
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 2: this Luke. You know, I don't like to put this

1943
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 2: guy on here, but you know, the new trend of

1944
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 2: the cell phone ass plug trick. You know this new trend.

1945
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 1: I don't know this. I'm a forty three year old man.

1946
01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 2: All right, here's a couple versions of it.

1947
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 1: Real quick.

1948
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 2: Let's go to that.

1949
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:56,600
Speaker 1: You know you just you just I have seen this.

1950
01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 2: Yes, well, you know that Asian guy who I said

1951
01:28:58,720 --> 01:28:59,759
Speaker 2: I'd never put on here again.

1952
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 1: I really hope you I really, I really really hope

1953
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:05,920
Speaker 1: something bad happens to him. I really do.

1954
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 2: All right, we got to get out of here. So

1955
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 2: here's my final segment for you. I want to know

1956
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:13,600
Speaker 2: how impressed you are? Rate a one to ten. I

1957
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 2: got some cool things here. You rate how impressed you are.

1958
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 2: Let's go to the first one.

1959
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 1: That's impressive. That's not a lot of weight, but the

1960
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 1: stability you have to have there is remarkable.

1961
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:28,440
Speaker 2: Okay, one to ten. What's your rate on impressiveness?

1962
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 1: Solid? Eight?

1963
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the next one, also a

1964
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 2: jim trick.

1965
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:39,679
Speaker 1: The end of this adult Luke nine. Nine.

1966
01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, that's cool. Let's go to the Let's go

1967
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:56,759
Speaker 2: to the billiard's room. Check out this shot. Ten ten, Yes, definitely,

1968
01:29:57,040 --> 01:30:00,320
Speaker 2: all right. Let's go to man's best friend who can

1969
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 2: also handle handle a wicket here and the drummer get.

1970
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:09,719
Speaker 1: Wicket, dude. Isn't this an Australian like sheep dog?

1971
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:10,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's incredible.

1972
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:12,720
Speaker 1: I want to owe these fucking dogs. Man. They're not

1973
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 1: like normal dogs. These things are wired for work.

1974
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:17,280
Speaker 2: Yeah you know he's the real big puppy, that's what

1975
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 2: they call him. All right. And finally here's an old guy.

1976
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 2: This is your dunk of the week. What's your rating?

1977
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:23,680
Speaker 2: One to ten?

1978
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 3: Here?

1979
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:26,720
Speaker 2: Oh no, this is sorry, wrong one. This is a

1980
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:28,840
Speaker 2: couple's halloween cause where are we do?

1981
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 1: We have the old guy? See you and I should

1982
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:31,799
Speaker 1: have done this one.

1983
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:34,120
Speaker 2: We should have we have the old guy? Or no? Nothing? Nothing?

1984
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to our last couple. Here.

1985
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 2: Here is couple's halloween costume.

1986
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 1: Of the year. I gotta say I love this one.

1987
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 2: And that's how that's how you were made. Yes, there

1988
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 2: it is. Look just like that, you know, look at

1989
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 2: her light up when he Okay, there you go.

1990
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:53,559
Speaker 1: You got it?

1991
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 2: You got where I'm going with that, Luke big Win

1992
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 2: on the price is right this week? Check let's check

1993
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 2: this out. Oh yeah, come on right.

1994
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:10,840
Speaker 1: He's worked for a Nissan Ultima.

1995
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:16,240
Speaker 2: Finally, Luke, let's get high here. What do you think

1996
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:23,720
Speaker 2: of the ingenuity of these NFL fans? Been there?

1997
01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:27,200
Speaker 1: I mean, has this guy held a job since nineteen

1998
01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 1: eighty seven? Probably?

1999
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:30,360
Speaker 2: Not right.

2000
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 1: I do like the ingenuity, I'll get I like the ingenuity,

2001
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 1: but this guy would you? Would you smoke on that

2002
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 1: thing after this fucking drifter who ended up in the

2003
01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 1: game hands you that? No?

2004
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:44,720
Speaker 2: Probably? But here's for your birthday this year, luke in

2005
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 2: late July, August whenever your birthday? August fifth, right, yeah,

2006
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:50,320
Speaker 2: August fifth. There you go. I'm a better friend than

2007
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:52,360
Speaker 2: you thought I was. Here's what I'm when. I'm gonna

2008
01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:54,559
Speaker 2: buy you spoiler alert. This is the last one I got.

2009
01:31:56,760 --> 01:32:02,599
Speaker 3: Holy Jesus, look at her wearing a drug too? Right, dude,

2010
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 3: just bury me in this, just lets the casket.

2011
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 1: And let me.

2012
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 2: We gotta go. It wasn't it wasn't our best, but

2013
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 2: it counts. I guess it counts, luke us.

2014
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 1: These Monday shows after traveling are tough, all right. As

2015
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 1: a reminder, of course, Morning Coombat dot store is the

2016
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 1: best place to get the merch. You can go to

2017
01:32:19,240 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 1: showtime dot com get a thirty day preview for free.

2018
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 1: If you like it, you can keep it. If not,

2019
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:25,559
Speaker 1: you can bounce plus three nine nine a month thereafter.

2020
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:27,240
Speaker 1: I think this promo's closing soon, so you gotta do

2021
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 1: it right away. And uh, I think that's it BC.

2022
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:33,479
Speaker 2: Any final thoughts, No, no, I hope to fix my

2023
01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:34,799
Speaker 2: technology in the future.

2024
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:36,720
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, we have to come strong the rest

2025
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:38,760
Speaker 1: of this week, so let's make sure we do that

2026
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:40,360
Speaker 1: because we owe the fans big.

2027
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:42,200
Speaker 2: Everything we do, we've got to come original.

2028
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:45,360
Speaker 1: Look okay, all right, so sorry for the late start today.

2029
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 1: We appreciate you guys being here for Malca for BC.

2030
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:51,320
Speaker 1: For showtime, I'm Luke Thomas. That's Brian Campbell. We'll see

2031
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:53,280
Speaker 1: you guys on Wednesday, and until then, may all of

2032
01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:54,320
Speaker 1: your games be loyal.