1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Sticking to sports. Well, it's like I stick to light. 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: I think this is a guy that picks up five 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: plus yards pretty much every time he gets the football 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: over the course of his two and a half seasons 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: in the league. I looked at them as people who 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: meet half to play first. Welcome into the lounge, coming 7 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: off that big win in Washington. Uh, we're we're gonna 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: take a look in this podcast episode and kind of 9 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: the issues surrounding this team. At the quartermark or about 10 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: a month in, Ravens are sitting at three on one. 11 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,639 Speaker 1: It's a very good spot to be in right now. 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: So we're gonna take a look at, uh, you know, 13 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: what's going on with this team, what they could be 14 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,639 Speaker 1: doing better, what they're doing really well, get to your emails, 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: stuff like that. Yeah, I mean, look, I think, uh, 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: it's been an interesting starts to the season. Um, and 17 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: sitting at three on one. That's better on what then 18 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: where the Ravens were and start at this point last year? 19 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: There were two and two at this point last year. 20 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: If you were to go back, I think a lot 21 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: of people were feeling like at that time, oh man, 22 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: this team, this team is not that good. They just 23 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: lost to the Browns, which is which was such a 24 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: disappointing loss. Oh man, this this team is not not 25 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: for real. They need to make major changes and then 26 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: all of a sudden they go and they rad a 27 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: long twelve straightor wins. So could this team put up 28 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: twelve straight wins from here? Sure? Absolutely, I can totally 29 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: see it. And I definitely think these next few weeks 30 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: are gonna be um an opportunity for them to put 31 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: up some wins, um starting to starting with this week 32 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: against Cincinnati. So um, let's start. I want to My 33 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: biggest question for you off the top here is where 34 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: this team stands right now? Are they where you expected 35 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: them to be in terms of what you see? And 36 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: I don't just mean record wise, because I think a 37 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: lot of us probably would have looked at these first 38 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: four games and probably said three and one, you know, 39 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: knowing that it's gonna be tough to be the Chiefs. 40 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: But what you're actually seeing the eye test? Um? Are 41 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: they better? Are they worried that you expected them to be? Like? 42 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: Where does this team stack up against what your expectations were? Well, 43 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: I'll start by saying, um, it's only natural to compare 44 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: this team to last year's team, right, I mean, it's 45 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 1: just what human beings do. Is that fair? No? Not really, 46 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: you know, I mean every every team is different. Uh, 47 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: you know, you can undergo changes in the off season. 48 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: Obviously this offseason was a very different offseason in terms 49 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: of COVID and all the time missed and whatnot. Uh. 50 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: You know, the Ravens have a number of new piece, 51 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: a bunch of new pieces, both on offense and defense. Um, 52 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: so it's not fair to compare it to last year, 53 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: but you're asking me to compare it. So that's what 54 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. Uh. You know, I think that the 55 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: offense is not as explosive as it was last year 56 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: so far, not quite as impressive. Um. Yeah, it's just 57 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: you know, the running game isn't as hasn't been quite 58 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: as dominant. Now you look at the yards per carry 59 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: and uh, it's good. I mean, Gus Edwards is third 60 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Oh you know, at Lamar Jackson is fourth. 61 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: So um, but the eye test tells me teams are 62 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: bottling up Lamar a little bit more on the run. 63 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: You know, he gashed him for the fifth yard or 64 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,399 Speaker 1: but outside of that, that's a big one to take 65 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: away but we always talk about that's always one of 66 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 1: my favorite games. Did you take that one away? Yeah? Yeah. 67 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: If he took away that eighty yard run that Derrick 68 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: Henry had in the playoffs, he wouldn't have ran for anything. 69 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: But you know, it's it's just a lot of Lamar 70 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: has been bottled up a lot. Uh So that's been different, obviously, 71 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: And I think that he started off really hot throwing 72 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: the ball against the Browns, and he threw the ball 73 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: well against Houston, and everybody was, you know, talking about, 74 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, how Lamar has made such strides and 75 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: his accuracy and reading defenses, and you know, from a 76 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: passing standpoint, it looked like, all right, here we go. 77 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,839 Speaker 1: We're picking up right where we left off last year, 78 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: if not better. And now you know, it was just 79 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: a dud, just a complete dud all the way around 80 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: against the Chiefs, and that as sir atly skewed the 81 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: stats um and then you know it wasn't it was 82 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: hit or missed against Washington. It's just you don't expect 83 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: to see from an offense that finished second in the 84 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: league in yards per game last year to be sitting 85 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: at thirty one. You know, in the passing attack. Uh. 86 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: And so yeah, it's it's surprising. Uh, you know, I 87 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: would say the eye test is has not been quite 88 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: as rosy as last season. Yeah. I think the biggest 89 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: surprise to me has been the struggle in running the football. 90 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: I just felt like, no matter what and and and struggle, 91 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: the team is what fourth right now? I believe in 92 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: in yards per games second, in yards per carry five 93 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: point four is second to the Browns. It's it's really 94 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: just that they're not running it nearly as much as 95 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,679 Speaker 1: they did last year. That's the big thing. Yeah. And 96 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: but then in terms of just overall ranking right now, 97 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: uh sorry sorry, third and NFL right now in terms 98 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: of where they rank as a rushing offensive yards per game, 99 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: which like, no, if if you're ranked third in the league, 100 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: most teams wouldn't be complain about that. It's just again 101 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: comparing it to the last year the teams that records 102 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: in terms of how how well they ran the football. 103 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: But I do think that has been surprising to me. 104 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: And one thing that I it seems to me is 105 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: when Lamar would get around the edge last year, it 106 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: seemed like that was eight yards minimum. Just as a 107 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: starting point. You're starting with eight yards and now it 108 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: just seems like teams are forcing him to get wider 109 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,239 Speaker 1: and wider and wider, and then all of a sudden, 110 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: he's running, you know, basically all the way out to 111 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: the edge and picking up two, picking up three. And that, 112 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: to me, is one big difference that I've seen. Certainly, 113 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: I think we knew that that, you know, the offensive 114 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: line was gonna be a bit of a it's gonna 115 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: be a challenge to replace marsh beyonda to put it completely, 116 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, mildly, that is that was a a challenge 117 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: that we all knew. Especially then when you get a 118 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: guy Entyree Phillips who played left tackle in college, UM 119 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: and had a switch from tackle to guard and go 120 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: from the left side to right side and fill in 121 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: there and makes, you know, step in the starting line 122 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: up as a rookie, that is not an easy task. 123 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: You got Massacre coming back from a major knee injury 124 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: sooner than anybody expected, but he gets thrown out there. Um. 125 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: And then last week you're playing without your all pro 126 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: left tackle Ronnie Stanley, maybe the best left tackle in 127 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: the game. So um, those are some serious challenges for 128 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: the offensive line. UM. And then on the passing game. Yeah, 129 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: like when you open the season you beat the Browns 130 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: thirty eight to six, um, and it looked so easy, 131 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: so smooth. I think the feeling was like, all right, 132 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: pick it up right where you left off. It's just 133 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: gonna be the only Actually I should actually amend that 134 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: more than pick it up where you left off. The 135 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: passing game has now become even more elevated this season. 136 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: Like that was my feeling coming out coming out of 137 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: Week one, is that Lamar looks so good as a passer. Um, 138 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: And so maybe even that set a little bit of 139 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: unrealistic inspectations. Um, what's your feeling as to why the 140 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: deep ball, the deep the deep passing game hasn't clicked yet, 141 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: because that's one area where we spent a ton of 142 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: time talking about it. But it just hasn't, Like it 143 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: hasn't like totally hit yet. They've had some opportunities, but 144 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: it just hasn't. Yeah. Well, they didn't really throw the 145 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: ball deep all that much against the Chiefs. Um. You know, 146 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: I think I want to say that they hit one 147 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: against the Browns. Uh Hollywood had a long one. Uh Yeah, 148 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: But I I honestly think the Chief's the Chief's game 149 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: was just horrible all the way around. I mean, I 150 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: think they just it reminded me so much of the 151 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: Titans playoff game. They were off kilter from the start, 152 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: never really found their their footing. Uh. You know, I 153 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: think that's something that Lamar is gonna have to prove, 154 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: Like when he gets off to a rough start, you 155 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: gotta find a way to come back from that. And 156 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: and he did it somewhat in the Titans playoff game 157 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: last year. Uh, you know, he kind of rallied late 158 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: in that game, put him on the shoulders. He did 159 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: it against the Chiefs in the second regular season, lost 160 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: to them. But you know, he's got to get over 161 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: some of those slow starts. And I just kind of 162 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, there's a lot of pressure now 163 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: to hit those deep shots. I think he's putting a 164 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: lot on his shoulders to connect on those balls and 165 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: and just not kind of gripping and ripping. That's my 166 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: that's my non scientific answer to that, because I don't 167 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: think there's anything wrong mechanically or anything like that. We've 168 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: seen Lamar hit those passes time and time again. I 169 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: think that he just when their opportunities are there and 170 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: he sees it. I don't know if it's just tightening 171 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: up a little bit or what. I just don't feel 172 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: like he's kind of feeling it. Yeah, yeah, I can 173 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: see that. I mean also I always I always do 174 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: kind of laugh at like, why it's a deep passing 175 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: game not working? Like the deep passing game is kind 176 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: of like, I mean, it's not this this big of 177 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: a stretch, but it's kind of like hitting a half 178 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: court shot in the NBA. It's like, why haven't you 179 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: been hitting any half shot? Ya? Super deep threees? Like 180 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: it's just hard. It's just the deep passing a lot 181 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: that needs to go in today. It's a low percentage shot. 182 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: Why haven't you been holding out from the fairway? Like 183 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: because that's a hard thing to do. Um. So, like 184 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: I always think that that is something that's worth noting. 185 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: Um you know. I think one thing that's interesting is 186 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: like we all had really big expectations and still do 187 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: for Hollywood coming into this year, and the workout videos 188 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: and all that. Well, he had a teams have been, 189 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: he had a great camp then he Yeah. I just 190 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: think that for all those reasons, you just felt like 191 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: this guy is gonna have a huge year and he 192 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: is on track to be right around a thousand yards. 193 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: I think we both said over on that. I still 194 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: think we're going over um. But but I do think 195 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: the defenses are paying more attention to him and he's 196 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: getting more of that safety help over the top, which 197 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 1: makes it more challenging for defenses or for him. Um. 198 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: You know. So I think that that's a piece of 199 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: the equation UM. And I also just think that, like, 200 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: it's not always gonna look easy. And I'm looking at 201 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: this catch right now. There evens have one by fourteen points. 202 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: They have won by us quick math team points. Yeah, 203 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: seventeen points, and they won by thirty two points. Okay, 204 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: so those are the three wins this year. So so 205 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: as much as we're sitting here saying, ah, they could 206 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: fix this, they could fix us the offensive line, the 207 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: run game is not great, the deep passing games not great. 208 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: That's a lot of points they're putting up and they're 209 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: winning by. So. Yes, they did lose to the Chiefs 210 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: and looked off kilchure. That was a that was a 211 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: bad game all the way around. But I am I 212 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: still think that this team is absolutely one of the 213 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: best four teams in the NFL. And uh is right 214 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 1: behind the Chiefs in the a f C. That's why, 215 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: I mean the Titans are there before obviously the COVID 216 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: stuff with them. Uh, the Steelers are there, but we're 217 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: gonna find out a week seven between the Ravens and 218 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: the Steelers. I think the Ravens are still better than 219 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: the Steelers. Like I watched those teams in the eye test. 220 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: I still think the Ravens are better than the Steelers, 221 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: even though you know, you know, I'm always scared of 222 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 1: the steel Yeah, I would agree with that. I mean, 223 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: I just think that let's you know what, let's jump 224 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: into this question from Will Saunders because he's he's i 225 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: think feeling the same thing here. He said, all right, 226 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: three of want at the quartermark. I'm not sure if 227 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: you're feeling it, but there seems to be a lot 228 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: of negativity about a three and one football team just 229 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: listening and reading comments. The Ravens can't run, can't pass, 230 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: have the worst pass rush. Sorry, offensive line and linebackers 231 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: are lost in coverage. Have we become spoiled? What's happening 232 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: to peaking at the end of the season. Sorry for venting, 233 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: but here's my question. Do you agree that we have 234 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: to find a way to defend the wide receiver rub 235 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: routes against their man the man defense, and did Justin 236 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: matter BK have knee surgery? Uh So, let's focus on 237 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: the well there was, Like he said, here's my question 238 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: and questions to the to the big question of have 239 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: we become spoiled? I think that's what we're talking about. Yes, 240 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: I think last season has spoiled us and made us 241 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: think that the Ravens because I do think personnel wise, 242 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: they're better than they were last year when you just 243 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: look at who's on the field. Uh But I think 244 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: to expect the Ravens to be playing like they were 245 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: playing at the end of last season and expect them 246 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: to be playing that way in early October is too much, 247 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: especially after uh covid altered off season. That that your 248 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: expectations I think are too high. Uh So, this team 249 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: is playing winning football and that's what matters most. Uh So, 250 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: I think that this team will continue to improve. You know, 251 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about Lamar Jackson, not not worried about 252 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: the m v P. I think he's gonna be just fine. 253 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: It was two weeks ago we were all talking about 254 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: how much better is accuracy is to two weeks, you know, 255 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 1: So you know and Lamar sure did he have a 256 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: Did he have a great game against the against Washington? No, 257 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what a couple of those plays 258 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: the touchdown past, both of them to Mark Andrews and 259 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 1: the one where he rolled out is to the right 260 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: and flicked that ball to Hollywood Brown for what was 261 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: what was about a inch away from a third touchdown pass. 262 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: There's a ridiculous plays, let alone the fifty yard touched down, 263 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: I mean one. So I'm not worried about Lamar. He's 264 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: gonna be fine. This seems going to get better, you know, 265 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: if we're if we want to talk about things that 266 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: I think I am concerned about over the long haul, 267 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: hold on before you do that, Before you do that, 268 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: let's take let's take a take. Thank you for saying. 269 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: And when we come back, when we come back, we'll 270 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: hear what you're concerned about. This season. When you trade 271 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: up to Ram trucks, you're getting power, luxury and technology 272 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: like you never imagined. You don't become the back to 273 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: back motor trend truck of the year for nothing. 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All right, so now we're back, So 281 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: wait before again before we get into what you're concerned about. 282 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: One other thing the hun here about Justin Mattabek, rookie 283 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: defensive lineman, has been out since an injury and training camp. 284 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: Did he have nursed knee surgery. I'm not sure if 285 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: he had knee surgery, but he's been practicing the past 286 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: couple of weeks and coach Hardbo said that he's been close, 287 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: so I don't think that he had knee surgery. I 288 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: mean it's not like he had an a C L 289 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: tear or anything like that. So maybe we get to 290 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,599 Speaker 1: see him make his debut this week. Um, and I 291 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: am excited to see him play, but he's been practicing. 292 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: He was a full participator this week. Will also ask 293 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: about the wide receiver rub routes. I mean, I don't 294 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: I don't think that's the Ravens are alone and having 295 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: trouble defending that route. It's a tough one if offenses 296 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: canna execute it. Really, I think the Ravens needs to 297 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: do a little bit that better job against screens. They've 298 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: they've had a tough time against against screens the past 299 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: two games. Antonio gives him from Washington, got him, the 300 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: Chiefs get everybody with their screens because they're track team 301 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: out there, um and have so much motion and movement. 302 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: It's just it's hard to defend um. But anyway, just 303 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: put a cap on Will's question. All right, now, things 304 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: that I am concerned about. I I am a little 305 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: bit concerned about the pass rush, Okay, I well, you 306 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: know and I both wanted if you go back, we 307 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: both talking about Clowney for multiple times during the all 308 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: the season. So it's not exactly like that's necessarily no, no, never, 309 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: mid I'm not gonna get down it. So you look 310 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: at it. And the Ravens have nine sacks this year, 311 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: which is middle of the pack, middle pack. We're not 312 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: talking Panthers have three, al right, uh you know, but 313 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: the Steelers have fifteen, the Eagles have seventeen. So anyway, 314 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: their middle of the pack, and and they've been dialing 315 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: up blitzes like they have last year. You know, they 316 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: blitzed more than any team in the NFL. Judan just 317 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: got off, you know, got his first two of the season. 318 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: Jalen Ferguson got his first. I'm a little concerned from 319 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: what I've seen, you know, Jayalen Ferguson I think needs 320 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: to have a big, big year too. Ti Spousers doing 321 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: all right. He's bringing some heat, but I just think 322 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: that they're not They're not getting enough pressure. I thought 323 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: they were going to get after tween Haskins more than 324 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: they did, even and they still got what four sex 325 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: on him. I thought they were going to get after 326 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: him even more. The homes He's a magician at avoiding 327 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: the pressure fading. All those fade away through as he 328 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: had were just ridiculous. He seemed to know where the 329 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: blitz is. Stop bringing up that gameiculous. I just think 330 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: that the Ravens pass rush could use some help. And 331 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: if the Ravens are going to make a move, a 332 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: trade deadline move, I think that's where they do it right, 333 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: you know what. I am a little bit surprised with 334 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: and I think Claris Campbell has been playing great, but 335 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: he hasn't really gotten to the quarterback. Uh, you know, 336 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: he hasn't gotten to the quarterback much. They only got 337 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: some multiple sacks on this team. Judean got to last week. 338 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: Tias Bowser has two as well. Um, but Claris Campbell 339 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: has only one sack. So I was wondering it. You know, now, look, 340 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 1: there's still plenty of season left, but that was we 341 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: haven't seen him get to the quarterback. And I think 342 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 1: the way that um I thought could happen certainly still 343 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: plenty of time for that to be the case. Um. 344 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: So that's I guess one thing that has surprised me 345 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: a little bit. And then yeah, Ferguson, he's kind of 346 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: like falling under the radar, like no one has really 347 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: talked about him all that much. But I agree with you, 348 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: like he needs to be a guy is a third 349 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,719 Speaker 1: round pick in the second season that needs to get 350 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 1: to the quarterback. He needs to get sack production. Um, 351 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: the Ravens are counting on him to do so. So 352 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: and and that again kind of just say I think 353 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: that the prediction that we've talked about multiple times over 354 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: the course of this offseason, the Tias Bowser is gonna 355 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: put up some sack numbers and get paid. But from 356 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: somebody this offseason, I think it's looking like it's gonna happen. 357 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: He've got two sacks, he's on pace, you know, so 358 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: if he were to get in that eight to ten range, 359 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: which I think he certainly will, um, it's gonna get 360 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: a nice cot com. You know. The Ravens are like 361 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: making big plays on defense. It's not like sacks are 362 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: like the only measuring stick of of what a good 363 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: defense is or even rush. You know, they're getting quarterback 364 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: hits and those are great. You know, pressure causes uh 365 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: in completions, it causes turnovers. You know, the Ravens have 366 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: have done pretty well. They've done really well, and the 367 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: turnover department. Part of that is just because Marlin Humphrey 368 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: keeps ropping the ball out of everybody's hands. They have 369 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: the two picks in four games this season, so not 370 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: late in the world in terms of interceptions, but fumbles. 371 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: I mean, Marlon Humphrey is just he's unreal. The crazy 372 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: thing about Marlin is like is like and this is 373 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: I understand why this is the case, but there's so 374 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: much attention pointed on interceptions for quarterbacks. That's just natural, Like, 375 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: I get that, but the forced bumble is just as valuable, 376 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: and he's coming up with a ton of those. He's 377 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: got six forced turnovers during the Ravens current seventeen game 378 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: turnover streaks. So the Ravens have forced they turnover in 379 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: seventeen straight games. That's the best mark active streak in 380 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: the NFL. They've got twenty nine turnovers into seventeen games 381 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: and in the of this twenty nine, Marlin's got six 382 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: of them and MP juice me five of them. He's 383 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,719 Speaker 1: got five of them. So Marlon and Marcus in that 384 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: secondary are just incredible at forcing takeaways. And uh, that's 385 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: a big reason why the Ravens are sitting here at 386 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: three on one right now. All right, So I also 387 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: want to hit on this because it's fans favorite subject 388 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:25,719 Speaker 1: to discuss. Uh, what do you think of the Ravens 389 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: running back rotation and what it should be? Hm, this 390 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: is I think that this is one of the tougher 391 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to call it a dilemma because it's 392 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: not a dilemma to have have multiple good players. But 393 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: I think the hot hand thing always sounds good, Like 394 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: I think that that is always will ride the hot hand. 395 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: But sometimes and we used to joke about this when 396 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: when Terence West will talk about how he's not really 397 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: rotational back, you know he's not. He like, look, I 398 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: start popping carries when him thirty plus. Okay, so you 399 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: got I'm telling you on the I'm gonna pop this then. Yeah. 400 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: So so some guys talk like that and it always 401 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,239 Speaker 1: makes me laugh. But I do think that there is 402 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: something to be said for getting into a rhythm as 403 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: a running back, and running backs often talk about that, 404 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: Like t Wes wasn't the only guy who said those 405 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: types of things. So no one's really getting into a 406 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: rhythm because you're spreading it out so much and they're 407 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: they're switching guys out multiple times on series, um, and 408 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: you know, you you're leading ball carrier might have eight carries, um, 409 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: and so it's tough to kind of find the I 410 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: just think it's tougher to find the hot hand than 411 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: the Ravens, like than anyone is admitting when you're especially 412 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: when you're rotating three guys in there, not just two 413 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,479 Speaker 1: guys in there, Well, it's really four guys because lamars 414 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: running the ball decent amount. Well, for sure, I'm just 415 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: talking obviously strictly about running back. Um. So with all 416 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: that said, I do like Greg Roman's analogy for Gus 417 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: Edwards as the closer, um, you know, but sometimes you 418 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: bring the closer in in the playoffs exactly, and uh, 419 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: I wonder if I would I guess I would like 420 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: to see a little bit more of the bus. That 421 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: is one thing. I would say. He's averaging six yards 422 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: of carry, and he's that he averaged more than five 423 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: yards of carries or right around five yards of carries 424 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: first two NFL seasons, So it's not like this is 425 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: an anomaly that he had one good game. I mean, 426 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: this is a guy that picked up five plus yards 427 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: pretty much every time he gets the football over the 428 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: course of his two and a half seasons in the league. 429 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: So I think I would like to see him get 430 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: some more run. I I love j K too and 431 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: Ingram I really like to but I just think that 432 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: from what I've seen so far, Gus seems like the best, 433 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: the best of the bunch, and I think that he's 434 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: deserving of, you know, a larger piece of live. I 435 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: think what's interesting is the Ravens h just their approach, 436 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: Like I think people are saying, like, you know, they're 437 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 1: not running the ball as much as last year, right, 438 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: and uh, obviously last year they led the league in 439 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: attempts by a wide margin. I think it was they 440 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: had ninety eight more rushing attempts than the Seahawks. I 441 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: mean that's like four games, you know, are three games. Uh. 442 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: So this year the Ravens are currently running the ball 443 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: the sixth most dred and twenty attempts is sixth most 444 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:27,239 Speaker 1: in the NFL. So that's that's a change. So you're like, 445 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: well that are they just passing the ball a lot? 446 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: Are they passing the ball too much? The Ravens rank 447 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: thirty one in passing attempts one right, that's one more 448 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: than the Vikings. Uh, they have fewer passing attempts than 449 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans, who have had a buy right. Right, So 450 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: they just don't have any offensive play. Well, part of 451 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: that is they just don't have any offensive place. The 452 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: Chiefs game went crazy, um, and then they've had some 453 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: of these series. They had a also in the Chiefs 454 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: game to have a kickoff re turn for a touchdown. UM. 455 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 1: And they've had some short field situations because of all 456 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: those turnovers that we were just talking about so there 457 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: haven't been that many offensive plays to do in which 458 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: leads a fewer yards. Uh, so that's part of the deal. 459 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: But like like we're talking about, it's not like you 460 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: would prefer to have more plays. Hey, can we get 461 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: some more plays? Don't give me the ball on the 462 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: short field. I want to get some more plays for 463 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: the offense here. So having fewer places isn't always a 464 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: bad thing, but I do think that is part of 465 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: the issue when you look at just those you know, well, 466 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: we want more plays, not more points, you know, because 467 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: because let's be honest here, the Ravens right now are 468 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: seven in the league in scoring points per game three 469 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: thirty point five the last time I checked, Grett, that's 470 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: a matters best. Yeah. Again, they won by thirty two points, 471 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: seventeen points, fourteen points. So hey, did you know it? 472 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: Do you? We buried the lead on this episode? By 473 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: the way, did you know that we've got a new sponsor? 474 00:23:55,800 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: Is it act? It's active? Oh yeah, baby, crowd Crowd 475 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: Royal sponsor lounge. Oh I have some wait, I have 476 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: someone myself here in my basement. But Ground Royal wants 477 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 1: to remind you to take a water break and moderate 478 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: your drinking, stay hydrated, stay royal, Crown, Royal Canadian whiskey. 479 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: So we are gonna take uh so now they're taking 480 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: a break. What we're gonna do now is welcome in 481 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: a guest. Um. And that is a man who the 482 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: lounge listeners know well. Um, And that's a man with 483 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: his own podcast. These days, Cliff Brown has gone big time. 484 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: So let's go ahead and welcome in Clifton Brown. When 485 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: now we're thrilled to bring in our guy, Clifton Brown. 486 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: A K. Cliff. It's been a while, Clift since I 487 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: did that. Feels good. I'm missing I missed I missed it, Ryan, 488 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: I did admit it. But do you miss me? Do 489 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: you miss me? Cliff? Not being in the office, both 490 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: of us together, all the commentary that you hear back 491 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: and forth with team Garrett and I most of it. Yes, 492 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: I will say this. The thing that I think I 493 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: missed the most with us all not being in the 494 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: office together is the Monday morning. Yeah, that's always good. 495 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 1: The first thing you come in, you break out the 496 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: schedule and then start going through the winds losses. Yeah, 497 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: exactly so. So after the first two games, I mean 498 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: that was the conversation size them up, book to the 499 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: book the Church to the super Bowl, got the flights ready, 500 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: and then after the Chiefs that was that was that 501 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: where what island in the Caribbean are you going to 502 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: in January? So now after the wind back back to 503 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: uh back to basically you know, got a date with 504 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: the Chiefs and the championships. That's where I am right now. 505 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: So uh yeah, so it changes dramatically, But I I, Cliff, 506 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: do you missed those Monday? They're funny. We should be 507 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: colored and really I would be a show of its own. 508 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: I mean, thanks, it's hilarious. Were we criticize the fans 509 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: been doing that and then we do it ourselves? Exactly? Yeah, 510 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: for sure. I mean not to go completely off track here, 511 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: but that basically, if you go back in time, was 512 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: the genesis of the lounge is that people would walk 513 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: around and hear those conversations between Ryan and I taking place, 514 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: and they said, you guys should record these and we 515 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: should do a podcast with this, and that's how it started. 516 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: Well speaking, a new podcast close to got his own 517 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: podcast here Black in the NFL, which launched on Tuesday, 518 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: and I'm telling you it is a must listen for 519 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: all fans, not just Ravens fans. Uh, tell your fans, 520 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: your friends and family who aren't Ravens fans about this 521 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: podcast because it's really important conversations that everybody should be having. 522 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: And that's why we wanted to bring on Cliff today. 523 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: So Cliff, can you just talked a little bit about 524 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: why you wanted to do this podcast Black in the NFL. Yeah, 525 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: thanks for having me plug that pod, Ryan, Way to Go, 526 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: And Yeah, I wanted to do it. Uh. I think 527 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: for kind of obvious reasons that there's so much going 528 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: on right now in our country that I feel people 529 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: are talking about need to talk about and discuss and 530 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 1: think about more. And it's funny that you and I 531 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: had a conversation about maybe me possibly having a podcast. 532 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: I want to say it was like late February, UM, 533 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: right after last season ended, and then so many things, unfortunately, 534 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: some tragic things have happened in our country with George Floyd, 535 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,479 Speaker 1: Brianna Taylor bay blahly since then, and then it's just 536 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: how the urgency in our minds to try and really 537 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: try and undertake this despite COVID, despite really at some 538 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: point not even knowing if there would be a season. 539 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: We just felt like it was really important for our 540 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 1: listeners to have this vehicle and for our players and 541 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: other people on the podcast to be able to express 542 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: what they wanted to talk about regarding racial injustice, uh 543 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: and social issues. So I'm really excited after just one 544 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: episode the feedback that we've been getting. I I really 545 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: am encouraged that we have kind of hit a note 546 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: with people, uh, that we've struck a chord when people 547 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: wanted to listen, and suddenly we're gonna try and build 548 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: on that momentum for sure, for sure. So yeah, so Cliff, 549 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: you know, the first episode came out this week and uh, 550 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: really you know, great guests. You start with Robert Griffin, 551 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: the third Dr, Harry Edwards, and uh Nate Boyer, uh 552 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 1: former NFL player in Green beret. Um, tell us what 553 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: you've got coming down the pike over the course of 554 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: the entire first Yeah, Well, the next episode is going 555 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: to be entire to neil or not to kneel, uh, 556 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: and we're going to take a deep dive into that issue, 557 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: which continues now. We've obviously seen more players kneeling this 558 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: year than ever before, and more importantly to me, the 559 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: the action to that and the discussions behind that have 560 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: changed dramatically. Then in two thousands six team, when Colin 561 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: Kaepernick began doing this, it really was kind of a 562 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: lone wolf out there really getting hammered and even his 563 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: message being hijacked. Now I think, I don't think I 564 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: know more players feel comfortable kneeling, but why exactly are 565 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: they doing it? What do they want to get out 566 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: of it? Uh? There are also some players who still 567 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: aren't kneeling. Why are they taking that position? Uh? And 568 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: how do they feel about that in a climate where 569 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: the atmosphere is chase. So we're gonna have Klias Campbell 570 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: on who when the Ravens played Jacksonville in two thousands seventeen, 571 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: he was in Jacksonville. Calais knelt on one sideline. Matthew 572 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: Jude I will also be on the next episode who 573 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: obviously knelt for the Ravens, but their viewpoints are different. 574 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: Even though they were kneeling, they had different reasons behind it. 575 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: So that those are two aspects of of the story 576 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: that to me kind of me need to be told. 577 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: So I hope people listen in uh, and also again 578 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: kind of keep an open mind about you know, things 579 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: that are going on that even though we may disagree, 580 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: it's important for these discussions to be had. Well. I 581 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: think one cool thing about this podcast too, is is 582 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: that we're gonna take kind of a macro look at 583 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: what it's what it means to be black in the 584 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: NFL in terms of you know, talking about police brutality, uh, 585 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: talking about how politics and uh, you know, it's kind 586 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: of interwoven with who a player is and how they 587 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: kind of reconcile their political stances, uh, you know, and 588 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: and then talking about also the NFL aspect of what 589 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: it's like to be a black quarterback in the NFL 590 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: and what comes with that, you know, about being on 591 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,719 Speaker 1: the cutting edge. The Ravens obviously hired the first general 592 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: manager in NFL history, black general manager in NFL history, 593 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: and Ozzie Newsom, and kind of being on the cutting 594 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: edge of that, but they're still being kind of this 595 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: uh glass ceiling to a large degree. You know, we 596 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of black coaches, there's not a 597 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: lot of black front office executives. The Ravens have kind 598 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: of been a rare team in terms of their black 599 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: representation in important uh positions in this franchise, So I 600 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: think it's kind of looking at it from a wider 601 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: sense of what's going on in the country and what 602 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: our players feel about that and how it affects them, 603 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: and then also specifically their jobs in the NFL. Absolutely well, 604 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: said Ryan. I mean, I wanted this podcast to be 605 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: something that anyone could could get something out of it, 606 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: even if if you didn't don't really follow football closely, 607 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: certainly whether you're black or white, at what age you are, 608 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: I wanted to appeal to all segments of society. I 609 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, um, I was fortunate, I believe 610 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: growing up. I mentioned before that my high school graduating 611 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: class was so close to being uh fifty fifty between 612 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: black and white that I have to sit down and 613 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: look at my yearbook to figure out if we had 614 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: more white students or black students in my high school 615 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: graduating And I think that was a interesting and valuable 616 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,959 Speaker 1: way for me to grow up. That I was exposed 617 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: when it came to blacks and whites too, a wide 618 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: variety of people, and I was raised and experience that 619 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: there's so much more the similarities between us and differences, 620 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: and I didn't realize a lot of people didn't grow 621 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: up the way I grew up until I got away 622 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: from my background in Philadelphia and got out into the 623 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: world where I would talk to a lot of people, 624 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,959 Speaker 1: Black people who grew up in predominantly black society or 625 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: or environments, and white people who didn't add that much 626 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: exposure to black people, and I think it really shaped 627 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: some of their viewpoints and ways where they didn't know 628 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: about a lot about how other people lived, and so 629 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: they weren't maybe as naturally inclusive as someone who grew 630 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: up differently. So I would definitely want this to begin 631 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: inclusive podcast. I believe in unity. Uh, there's too much 632 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: divisiveness in this country, far too much, not enough listening, 633 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: in my opinion, So I think this is a vehicle 634 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: for maybe eyes and minds to be open. But Cliff, 635 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: you've you've been doing this a long time obviously, and 636 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: you've seen the sports landscape change so much over time. 637 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: How have you seen it change for black athletes and 638 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: and where do you feel like we still you know, 639 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: in listening to these players even just so far in 640 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: your interviews, Uh, you know, where do we need to go? Well, 641 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: I mean for black athletes and all athletes once they 642 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: get to the NFL level, they're living to me in 643 00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: a world that is it can be a lot different 644 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: than the so called average person. Yet once they leave 645 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: the OREGNA, they're just human beings. You know. They have families, UH, 646 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: they have relatives, and they have the same dreams that 647 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: we all have. And I think right now what is 648 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: different than maybe even a few years ago, is that, Hey, 649 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: I think that more black athletes are willing to speak 650 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: out uh and thinking about ways to use their platform 651 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: to affect positive change. I also believe that they feel 652 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 1: that it's part of what they should be doing. Um. 653 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: I just feel that with what's going on in the 654 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: country now, everyone's taking a harder look at you know, 655 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: whether they can make a difference if THEBS have always 656 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: been involved in the community. Since the franchise is inception 657 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: and I just sensed from players that they want to 658 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 1: be heard more than ever before, and some of the 659 00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: conversations they've had with their families or with teammates now 660 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: have they're more willing to share them with other people 661 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: and click. The last question that I have about this 662 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 1: is just what kind of reaction have you gotten from 663 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: the conversations that you've had with players. UM, obviously when 664 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: they do this, when they have to do this interview 665 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: with you, it's it's a much different interview certainly, and 666 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: then if they're coming on the lounge, UM, and really 667 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: just in general, UM, you know, it's a much different 668 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: conversation and really thoughtful conversations. I mean, I think that 669 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: that clearly comes across UM in the first episode, and 670 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: I'm sure it will be throughout the course of the 671 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: entire podcast. But what has the feedback been that, you know, 672 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: when the when the idea cam first came that I 673 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: was going to do this, I actually heard but a 674 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: couple of players even before they heard the podcast, we're 675 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: happy that I was going to do it and that 676 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: they would have a chance to be involved. I haven't 677 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,720 Speaker 1: talked a large segment of players on the Ravens about 678 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: the reaction they've gotten as far as listening to the 679 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 1: first episode, but I do believe and just from listening 680 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: to their own comments about you know, the meetings they've 681 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 1: had and you know the video we posted the meeting 682 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: this summer, that again, this these are things they want 683 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: to talk about. UM, it's on their minds when UM, 684 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,240 Speaker 1: you know, Brianna Taylor or a situation when police officers 685 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 1: don't get charged with the George Floyd murder. Uh. You 686 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: can tell that athletes now are thinking about these things 687 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: all the time, just like we all are. And again, 688 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 1: they're in a position to really have some influence, uh 689 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: with their money, their time, and their efforts that a 690 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: lot of us don't have that platform. So again I 691 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: wanted to have them have an opportunity to use this 692 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: as a platform as well as for us to inform 693 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: people and to really make people think about these issues. 694 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: All right, here's my last question, Cliff, what what do 695 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 1: you say to fans or listeners who say you see this? 696 00:36:53,280 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: They say, stick to sports man. Yeah, well I've been 697 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: hearing that a lot. Uh my whole life. Actually, if 698 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 1: you if you express an opinion about anything other than 699 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: than sports, but sticking to sports, well it's like I 700 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: I stick to life. My response will be last, I 701 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 1: stick to life. Uh. These issues definitely matter to me. 702 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: Um athletes, as I mentioned, for their people, I don't 703 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:24,879 Speaker 1: when I walk in the locker room, I don't look 704 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: at guys who who are football players. I look at 705 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: them as people who happen to play football. There are 706 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 1: people first, and if you can't. You can't really separate, 707 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: separate the two to me, not when as soon as 708 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: you leave the parking lot. Uh, you're no longer, you know, 709 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,760 Speaker 1: playing football, You're living your life. Athletes spend way more 710 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: time living life than they do playing games. And so yeah, 711 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: if you want to just stick to sports, I guess 712 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 1: you can. But none of us just stick to whatever 713 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: we do. Uh. And if this is this is too important. 714 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: As much as I love sports, I'm more worried about 715 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: the welfare of my family. Uh. I have two children, 716 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: you know, my son, my daughter. When my son gets 717 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,439 Speaker 1: in the car to drive, I'm more worried about what's 718 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: gonna happen to him, uh in in that venue than 719 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 1: I am about him when he's watching a football game. 720 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, I just feel that it's too important to 721 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: just stick to sports. I feel that, you know, I 722 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 1: have a contribution that hopefully I can make. Having been 723 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: in this business so long, knowing as many people as 724 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: I do, I always ask people to be honest with me. 725 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: I gotta challenge myself. You know what am I gonna do? 726 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: So when I look in the mirror, you know, I 727 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: want to feel good about what I'm trying to do 728 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: to make things better, and having a podcast like this 729 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: is one way I can try and do that. That's great. Well, 730 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: sports and sports and this kind of stuff. Uh, social 731 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: justice and politics, they've been mixed for a long time, 732 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: so this is nothing new. But I love that that 733 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 1: you're a light on it and shining a light on 734 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: it and uh and and trying to move this forward 735 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: with these really enlightening conversations. And Cliff, you're doing an 736 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: awesome job. So for all your listeners out there, you 737 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: can find Black in the NFL. Wherever you get your podcast, 738 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:18,280 Speaker 1: just search Black in the NFL and uh, and please subscribe. 739 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: Send it to your friends, your families, your enemies. Heck, 740 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: send it to everybody. It might even be more fun 741 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: to send it to your enemies. So send it to 742 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: everybody you know. And if you've got some time, leave 743 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: a rating and review for Cliff. Alright, Cliff, you already 744 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: got my five stars. You know that. Appreciate it, man, 745 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 1: appreciate it. 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Alright, so big thanks 761 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 1: to Cliff Um again, go ahead and check out that podcast. 762 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: He's He's been working tires lely on it, so I'm 763 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: really happy for him and UM, I hope that you 764 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 1: enjoy it. So alright, so make this week's game. I think, Um, 765 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,280 Speaker 1: you know, the biggest question to some degree, Lamar Jackson 766 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: hasn't practiced Wednesday or Thursday. Um, fingers crossed at you 767 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: know that that he'll be able to go? Um? Can 768 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 1: they evens win this game even if he's not doing 769 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: Loom scenario here you're giving me. I mean, yes, the 770 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 1: Ravens can win the game if he's not out there. 771 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: I don't think that will be the case. I think 772 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: Lamar will be out there. But yeah, of course they can. 773 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you can run the ball. I think the 774 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 1: Bengals are a team that the Ravens are going to 775 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,839 Speaker 1: test him on the ground. They have a pretty they 776 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: have a good secondary, they have some talented players in 777 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 1: that secondary. Um, I think the Ravens are are gonna 778 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: run the ball a little bit, so that wouldn't change. Um. Now, 779 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,720 Speaker 1: of course, when you don't have Lamar on the field, 780 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: the threat, it's just the threat of him affects the 781 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 1: way the defensive play. But sure, yes, of course the 782 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 1: Ravens can win this game. I think it's gonna be 783 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 1: really interesting to see. This is gonna be a good game. 784 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: I really think, you know, the Bengals are what one, 785 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: two and one. I think they're a good team and 786 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,240 Speaker 1: I think they're better than even Maybe their record shows 787 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 1: right now, Uh yeah, they're their losses their two losses 788 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: are by a combined eight points. So they're good teams. 789 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow looks good. The Ravens pass rush needs to 790 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: dial it because that's really been their offenses issue is 791 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 1: they are giving up a lot of sacks. Especially through 792 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,919 Speaker 1: the first three games they did. Joe Burrow was taking 793 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,359 Speaker 1: a ton of hits. So the Ravens fast Rush needs 794 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,320 Speaker 1: to get after the rookie. But you know they have weapons. 795 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 1: Joe Mix and of course heated up at just the 796 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 1: wrong time just before facing the Ravens. He goes off. 797 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 1: He's a phenomenal back. Of course we all know a 798 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: j Green Uh Tyler Boyd. I mean, they have Tee Higgins, 799 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: so they have a lot of weapons on the offensive 800 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 1: side of the ball. Uh, It's it's gonna be a 801 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 1: good game. Yeah, yeah, I'm with you. But even with 802 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: that said, Even with that said, I still think the 803 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 1: Ravens come out of come out of this. There are 804 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 1: fourteen point favorite. Um. I think that I think that 805 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: maybe it ends up feeling close at times, but I 806 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 1: think the Ravens end up winning this game still by 807 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,720 Speaker 1: two scores. So um. So that's it for this week's episode. 808 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: But for everyone, make sure you email us a the 809 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot and nat thank you 810 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: so much for listening, and we'll be back the next 811 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 1: week after Gwen