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He is, he is, I said 64 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: during the interview, never try to limit your appearances on 65 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: a TV screen. Next to Tom Brady, he and Jesse 66 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: Palmer make even a moderately you know, redeemable guy. And 67 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: I think moderately redeemables where I classify you look like 68 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: you're out bailing. Hey, you've been in a You've been 69 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: in a ditch for six hours. Next to Brady, you 70 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: did a thing a long time ago on year Old. 71 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: You're the old place that when you walked in the 72 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: hallways you crossed Jesse Palmer. You just realized it. It 73 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: wasn't a fair game for all of us, right, I mean, 74 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: he's I would take an exit. I just jumped into 75 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: an office, didn't even I didn't want to be seen 76 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: in the same space. So but Brady was in New York. 77 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: They want something with the sun and uh yeah, I 78 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: mean he's Uh. I tried to Butter. I had a 79 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: joke to start because I know, you know, there's Tom 80 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: on that podcast kind of has control of it. So 81 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to lighten up the mood with a Mike 82 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: Rabel thought, because I know he's close with Rabel, and 83 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: it got Tom in a good mood and we were 84 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: off and rolling for about twelve fifteen minutes. But you know, 85 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 1: I was very gracious. I've you know, I've interviewed almost 86 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: I think everybody, you know, Tiger Woods, Barack, Obama, Trump, Uh, 87 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: you know, every coach, anybody I've wanted. He was one 88 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: of the last ones. So it was great. Well, I 89 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: got two things on it. To me. One thing that 90 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: stood out. You asked him a very direct question, is 91 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: there a one percent chance of you coming back? And 92 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: the thing I noticed, and I understand it's, you know, 93 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: this game is meant the light. It's his life, it's 94 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: his identity. He refused to use the word retirement, and 95 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: I mean he kind of beat around the bush, but 96 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: he did not say like It's not like he easily 97 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: could have said, Colin, under no chance, I'm taking this 98 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: year off. Next year be a Fox, but I am 99 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: not coming back under any circumstances. He kind of went 100 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: the BELICHICKI and worked around it. What would your take 101 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: on that? Well, you know, now his business is on 102 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: the East coast, right, so I mean Tom will be 103 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: able to throw the football. He set two NFL records 104 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: this year, So Tom will be able to throw the 105 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: football in ten years from now. As Drew Bledsoe always says, 106 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: you don't lose the arm, you'll lose the legs, You'll 107 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: lose the desire. So Tom. If Tom stays in shape, 108 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: I don't doubt. And let's say the Niner things just 109 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: implodes totally and they can call him in August and 110 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: say can you play October first? I think you take 111 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: the phone call. You know, the Niners one, even though 112 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: it's cross country. The roster is so good, you know, 113 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: there's just there's part of me that thinks, how would 114 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: he not take the call? Because it's not a quarterback 115 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: demanding job, it's a quarterback friendly job. Now, when I 116 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: watched Brady at the Beach, I thought it was over. 117 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: And his answer today, though he didn't give a definitive 118 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: I still think it's over. But I let's say I 119 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,799 Speaker 1: retired and I meant it. What if a year later, 120 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: like the greatest job ever is offered, I'd probably pick 121 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: the phone up. You know. I mean it's like Tom 122 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: looks great, still has a great arm, just was in 123 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: an offense that completely utterly depended on him and got 124 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: them to win the division. So I think he's done. 125 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: But just because you're done doesn't mean you know, he's 126 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: not only a football player, he's an entrepreneur. Entrepreneurs always 127 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: picked the phone up. You know, obviously I lived in 128 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: Northern California a long time, and you know, you're a 129 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: fan of your team, but as you grow older, whether 130 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: you play or whether you just do different things, that separates. 131 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: But there is an element of one, the guy loves 132 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: to win and the team is set up to win. 133 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: And two, like I lost my dad a couple of 134 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: years ago, and you know you've lost parents, there is 135 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: a unique part as your parents' age if you do 136 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: have the opportunity to do something special with them. So 137 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: that's I'd be shocked if not just Kyl, but I've 138 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: bet Josh McDaniels as well. Those two teams, to me, 139 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: are going to have a conversation with this man. Now, 140 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: whether Tom comes back, but those conversations are going to 141 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: be had. Yeah, just because you retire doesn't mean people 142 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: can't read out exactly. So I think Tom has retired. 143 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: It felt authentic to me, But you know, let's and 144 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: Troy Aikman got phone calls Drew Brees has gotten phone calls. 145 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: That's the way the game is. Like when you retire 146 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: and you're great, you know this, Three to four teams 147 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:15,679 Speaker 1: every year get trapped every year. Happens in training camp. 148 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean it's like Tom's going to get calls. 149 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna say no to all of them, 150 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: but the Niners because of the roster. You at least 151 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: take the call. Poor yourself, Poor yourself a pint and 152 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: sit and talk for thirty minutes and laugh, you know. 153 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you have to take the call, you know. 154 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: And last thing on Tom. One thing I found funny 155 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: is a lot of people, you know, the media, critics 156 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: and Twitter or whatever, think, you know, it's Greg Olsen 157 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: has done a great job, and listen, he's good and 158 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: he seems like a fantastic guy. But it's crazy that 159 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: Tom Brady just gets to come in and take the 160 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: job no experience. The reality is there's a small percentage 161 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: of people Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan, Tom Brady if they 162 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: want the number one gig. I don't care who it 163 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: is they're getting replaced, unless it is John Madden Tom 164 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: Brady sitting in that seat. Regardless who's there. It's just 165 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: there's a level of fame that Tom has a massed. 166 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: I would say the last five or six years take 167 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: them to another stratosphere that it's just great, great, But 168 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Tom Brady, Yeah, I mean, I don't know. 169 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: I stay out of those conversations. Greg is fantastic, And 170 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: now Tom announced that Greg's going to do it again 171 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: with Kevin Burkhart. Yeah, because I think Tom really a 172 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: needs the ex hail and b wants to figure out 173 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: how to do this to be great at it. So 174 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: that'll be something. But my bosses figure out, you know, 175 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: they don't include me in those conversations, like right, So 176 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm glad that I'm a broadcaster and 177 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: I don't really have to do that because the one 178 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: thing Fox does a remarkable job at they're really good 179 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: at it is production. When I worked at ESPN, there 180 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: were there were tons of talented people, but I didn't 181 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: think we were overly creative some of I mean, ESPN's 182 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: had that NBA pregame show for twenty years. I still 183 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: don't think they ever get it perfectly right. Fox figured 184 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: out soccer quickly. Took him about two years to figure 185 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: out golf, their World Series coverage, their college football Big Ten, 186 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: the show they did with Urban Meyer. From a production standpoint, 187 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: Fox does TV really well. Everything feels big, and so 188 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: Brady feels huge. So he's a natural choice for Fox. 189 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what they're gonna do 190 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: in a year. I just know, you know, Tom signed 191 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: on as the number one guy, Greg Olson, and this 192 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me at all. Is amazing. I've known Greg 193 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: for over ten years, so I'm glad somebody else does that. 194 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: But you know, I thought, you know, today, I because 195 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: I had thought about it. I thought I'm gonna asked Tom, Dude, Okay, 196 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: you just I mean, wouldn't you want to He's been 197 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: playing football for forty years, probably thirty eight. It's like, 198 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to take a big long exhale, and 199 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: he did. You know. I hadn't read the story, but 200 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: I saw your take and then I googled it, The 201 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: Tony Romo Intervention, and I think one underrated part. I 202 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: remember getting hired in the NFL and just thinking, like 203 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: I know football and just realizing how many players were 204 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: in the league, how many moving parts, how much is 205 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: going on, how much work it takes, whether you're a coach, 206 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: whether you're a GM, whether you call games to follow 207 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: the league. I mean truly know it, like who is 208 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: the fourth wide receiver on the Jacks and you know 209 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: you saw Romo taking a lot of shit. Well part 210 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: of it the amount of effort it takes to truly 211 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: be all in and football is very difficult. Just as 212 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: far as the most amount of players, it has the 213 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: most inventory every year of new guys coming in. Guys 214 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: get cut all the time, random guys. You can watch 215 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: any game, whether it's the Niners or the worst team 216 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 1: in the league, and they got a random dude that 217 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: was in the XFL a year ago. It is time consuming. 218 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: This is not the NBA where seven people play. Yeah, 219 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: that's what I said about Romo is that the league 220 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: turns over every three years now. I joked about golf 221 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: as an aside. I said, I think Tony wants to 222 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 1: play on the tour? Does he does? He does? He hits. 223 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: You know people A lot of people tag me and 224 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: said John, I said, why I found a way to 225 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: monetize golf. Big difference. Yeah, bring the revenue stream to 226 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: the volume the people you do. Golf is addictive and 227 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: I've known a lot of people that go down it 228 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: and they fall in love with golf and fall out 229 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: of love with their job. But you know the one 230 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: thing with Tony Romo is that Tony's always had Even 231 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: as a player, his style was sort of winging it. 232 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: I mean, he winged it. That's what it always felt like. 233 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: So that's what he's like as a broadcaster. By the way, 234 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning was surgical in his preparation. Well, if you 235 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: watch the Mannings on Monday night, Peyton Manning's got so 236 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: much information. So you become Aikman. Aikman's another guy very 237 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: prepared as a player, very prepared as a broadcaster. So 238 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: I think you become what you were as a player. 239 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: So Brady, Brady will be fantastic. And again, however that 240 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: whatever happens happens, it's none of my business. But the 241 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: question with Tom, Yeah, it's that's why when he said 242 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: I want to take a year off, I think Tom 243 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: just he'll do a deep dive on everything, and you know, 244 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear him. I well, you know 245 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: I heard I forget who it was. You'll see a 246 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: lot of people have predicted, well, you know, I don't 247 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: know how he'll be. He's not a guy that fails 248 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: a ton. Peyton Manning's not a guy that fails a ton. 249 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: I mean, that's an example. Charles Barkley was known as 250 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: a bad practice player, and he doesn't do a ton 251 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: of prep on TNT. Now he's just naturally funny and 252 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: that's what comes off. But they joke that he doesn't 253 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: follow a lot of the teams. Well, he wasn't a 254 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: great practice player. He struggled with his weight, he wasn't 255 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: really great in terms of nutrition and commitment. So that's 256 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: what he is as a broadcaster. He just is so 257 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: naturally funny and likable that he pulls it off. You know, 258 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: my first reaction last week when Sean Payton took the 259 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: job was one, if you're Denver, no brain or hiring him. 260 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: If you're a Denver Broncos fan, they got a lot 261 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: of them, I'd be fired up. And my first reaction 262 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: was like, God, that's pretty risky, you know, the quarterback situation. 263 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: And then I realized like part of what you know, ambitious, confident, 264 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: Like it was risky for you to start the volume, 265 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: it was risky when you moved companies to come to 266 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: FS one like part of getting the reaping big time 267 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: rewards is taking Andy Reid went to the Chiefs. They 268 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: had the number one overall pick. They did not have 269 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: a quarterback at the time. So confident, talented people take 270 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: big risk because typically they know deep down the percentage 271 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: and the chances of them succeeding at that are relatively higher. 272 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: You see today there was a story already changed out 273 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: the towels like he's on everything. This guy is going 274 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: in there like a bull in a china shot. That 275 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: thing is gonna it's gonna be hard for him to fail. 276 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: Now the quarterback situation, Russell's got to be better, and 277 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: if he's just shot, then that's gonna be a problem. 278 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: But so now they have a last place schedule, so 279 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: that's it. Secondly, they at the end of the year 280 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: they actually played Kansas City tight. They played better. So 281 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: when Hackett left the building about two weeks later, they 282 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: got competent. So I said this today, it's not like 283 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: you're going from a solid coach who got fired. Vic 284 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: Fangio absolutely excellent. One side of the ball. You're not 285 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: going from Vic Fangio to Sean Payton. You're going from 286 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: Freddie Kitchens to Sean Payton. You're going from somebody that 287 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: just isn't a head coach to Sean Payton. And how 288 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: many games do they win? Three or four or five? 289 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: Now I saw their schedule, the schedules easier, and now 290 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: you have a world class coach instead of a coordinator. 291 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: So and by the way, Derek Carr is out of 292 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: the division. Tom Brady's retired, So what if the Raiders 293 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: are less competent. The over under I had guessed it 294 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: would be eight and a half it was. I got 295 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: lucky on that with the staff. I said in the 296 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: morning meeting the day it was announced, I said, they've 297 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: got to be eight and a half, and that's what 298 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: it was. I would bet the over. I think it's 299 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: a nine to a ten win team, schedules easier, the 300 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: defense still good. You know this. The cat flexibility is 301 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: a problem, But what's not is getting draft picks. You 302 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: can get draft picks very quickly in this league by 303 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: moving people. The Rams could trade Jalen Rampsy and get 304 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: a first and a four and suddenly they have all 305 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: their picks. You can make moves. If you have elite players, 306 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,959 Speaker 1: you would never want to move Patrick Surtan. But if 307 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: you had to move with Jerry Judy or you had 308 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: to move somebody, you can get second, third, fourth round 309 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: picks real quick. The other thing is having a powerful 310 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: offensive coach. You can draft and hit on good players 311 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: or turn them into good players in the fourth, fifth, sixth, 312 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: seventh round. He had a lot of guys over his 313 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: tenure that impacted their teams that were not second round picks. 314 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: You know, Marcus Colson, Jimmy Graham, I wasn't a top 315 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: first round pick. You can get really good players when 316 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: you have an offensive coach who's also the play caller 317 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: in the fourth, fifth, sixth round. And that to me 318 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: is where he comes through. We're when you're paying a 319 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: guy seventeen million dollars Sean McVeigh Kyle Shanahan that that's 320 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: where it impacts you. Yeah, he Sean told me off 321 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: the air. He said, basically, we want to make our 322 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: offense basketball on grass. He goes, if you look at 323 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: what Russell does well, And by the way, when Hackett 324 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: left last couple of weeks, Sean Russell Wilson moved more 325 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: and the offense was more successful. They want to play 326 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: to Russell strain, which is elusiveness, mobility, the soft deep ball. 327 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: You know what I think happened is that Hackett had 328 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: an offense went to Denver. It was Aaron's offense, and 329 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: it wasn't built for Russell, and he just didn't have 330 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: a second offense, whereas Peyton has had a Taysom Hill offense, 331 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: Drew Breeze offense, Adulton offense. So Sean has been doing 332 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: this a long long time. I just don't think Hackett 333 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: had an offense in his repertoire for Russell. And that's 334 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,959 Speaker 1: why they when we kept screaming change the offense, he 335 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: didn't have it. You're asking somebody to throw Kershaw's curve 336 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: and they don't the curve. So that's why it was 337 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: so bad this year. 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I would say, like starting Walsh 372 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: Montana on a lot of teams that won multiple Super 373 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: Bowls did it with multiple, you know, multiple quarterbacks and 374 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: Andy and Mahomes. Obviously Belichick and Brady have six, Montana 375 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: and Walsh have three. Shanahan and Elway have the two, 376 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: but it happened at the end of Elway's career, so 377 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: it didn't get to happen over a long period of time, 378 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: which who knows they maybe they had more. I would 379 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: say the outlier is Kaflin and Eli that had these 380 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: two unique runs, but it wasn't like a prolonged success. 381 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone's ever catching Belichick and Brady, 382 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: you would bet against it winning six Super Bowls together 383 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: as a head coach in the quarterback. But I think 384 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: Andy Mahomes, if they knocked this thing out Sunday, do 385 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: have an opportunity one day to kind of be right 386 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: there as the modern day version of Walsh and Montana. Well, 387 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: when Belichick ran the league for twenty years, most of 388 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: twenty years, there was certainly an argument. In the last 389 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: fifteen of those years, Andy Reid was the second best coach. 390 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: He was getting to the NFC championship four or five 391 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: times at a Super Bowl, and he was one of 392 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: the coaches that gave Belichick problems. Then he goes to 393 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: Kansas City two wins to I think eleven overnight, and 394 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: then he's at the end of Bill's great New England 395 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: days and he was beating him with Mahomes. And so 396 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: I argued this when Bill was running the league and 397 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: he was arguably the second best coach. With Andy now 398 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: running the league, Bill's not second. He's struggling to get 399 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: into the playoffs. We view like Shanny or McVeigh or Peyton, 400 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: And so my takeaway is Andy is sixty four If 401 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: he coached his sixty eight and won two to three 402 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: of these things. I think we would look at it differently, 403 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: which would be when the rules leaned to Bill, he won, 404 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: Andy was second. When the rules leaned Andy, he was one. 405 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: Bill wasn't second. So that I think it's going to 406 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: even things out and fair historians will say Andy and 407 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: Bill are way closer by the way Bill got fired 408 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Can't win big without Tom, and he's one 409 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: with a lot of people. I would say this for 410 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: Coach Read. I remember being at the combine in two 411 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: thousand night, right after they hadn't won the Super Bowl, 412 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: and a buddy of mine on the staff was like, 413 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: you know what's crazy is we had a we had 414 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: a week or two off after we won the super Bowl. 415 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: You know, everyone celebrated, and I drove by the facility 416 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: and I looked and Coach Read's car was there, and 417 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: I had the opportunity worked in the office for company. 418 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: I've never I've been around a lot of successful I've 419 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: never seen a work ethic like this. To me, the 420 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: only thing that's gonna stop this man from coaching, he's 421 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: a bigger guy. It would be health, his love and 422 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: passion for the game. And obviously with Mahomes, like he's 423 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: gonna coach until he can't coach, you know, coach read 424 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: he's in this for the long haul. So I think 425 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, I mean, they've already built like they're kind 426 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 1: of the they win this, they're the dynasty of kind 427 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: of this air, but they're not going away. I mean, 428 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: they got all these young defensive backs, but Jaco's a 429 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: young player. They got all these draft picks, they got 430 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: a dynamic GM. I think the Chiefs are kind of 431 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: in this thing for the long haul. Like this ain't 432 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: just a cute little five year run. I mean this 433 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: is a much more sustainable like holmegrenn and farf Well 434 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: then Holmegren left to Seattle and far of kind of 435 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: like this thing's gonna go for a while. Oh, I think. So. 436 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: I think the only thing that is in the way 437 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: of it is Andy Reid retiring. Yeah, that would be 438 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: a problem. So and I said this today, Andy retires. 439 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: Let's say they win and he retires, who do you hire? 440 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: Eric the Enemy? No, I mean Eric the Enemy didn't 441 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: get a job interview in Chicago and the GM was 442 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: formerly in Kansas City. He didn't get an interview. I 443 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: think it'd be Matt Naggy. You know, I know he 444 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: struggled in Chicago, but him and Veach played college football together. 445 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: Him and Mahomes are tight. Again. I don't I don't know, 446 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: I don't know anything. I would be stunned if Andy 447 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: retires in the near future. Hell again, he's family stuff. 448 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: But I think the Chiefs and I think he knows. 449 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously he was there with young Farv. He's 450 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: seen McNabb a little vic. This is as special as again. 451 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: I mean that quarterback a couple of weeks ago. That 452 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: was a legendary performance on a bum ankle in a 453 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: game against an all time Joe Burrow is gonna be 454 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: an all time great player. That's gonna go down as 455 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: one of his defining moments, even if he goes on 456 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 1: to win four more Super Bowls. I was actually blown 457 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: away by Steve Spagnola because Burrow has really evened out 458 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: his game. So his first year he gets hurt. His 459 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: second year he was mostly good, but he had some stinkers. 460 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: Remember the game against Chicago, he had like three picks 461 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: and three passes, so he was uneven. This year, he 462 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: didn't have a bad Sunday. Now week one, first game 463 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: off surgery, he struggled. He didn't have another bad Sunday 464 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: until the Chiefs, and it was like, we didn't we 465 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: don't view Kansas City as a great defense. So Spag 466 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: got half for him in the first half, gave him 467 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: some problems with rookies in the back end in the 468 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: second half. So are we watching are we watching a 469 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: defense of the Chiefs? That situationally is just better than 470 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: we think. Because Burrow this year just did not have 471 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,239 Speaker 1: bad Sundays. I mean he went about sixteen he went 472 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 1: at fifteen to sixteen weeks. He was good every Sunday. Well, 473 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: that to me, Sunday is the Niners for about a 474 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: quarter and a half until that thing fell apart. Had 475 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: a game plan against Jalen pick us apart, bro pick 476 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: us apart. We don't think you're missing throws. We are 477 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: not going to just rush up the field. We're gonna 478 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: make you beat us with your arm. And he couldn't 479 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: do it. And I heard Greg Cosell. He did not 480 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: He did not look good. He didn't really have to 481 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: do anything for the game. And to me, that's the 482 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 1: game plan is make him beat you with his arm, 483 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: do not over rush him. I think that's the most 484 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: fascinating part about this game. The Jalen hurts early in 485 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: the season was so dynamic it didn't matter, like he 486 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: could make place because he can turn into a running back. 487 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 1: This version, it's hard to quantify because you don't see 488 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: him limp in, you don't see him holding a short 489 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,479 Speaker 1: but something is off. Who knows. Maybe now we've had 490 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: two weeks, maybe he's healthier. But if the version that 491 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: we saw Jalen against the forty nine ers, I mean, 492 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: I like the Chiefs in this game. If that's the 493 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: guy playing, yeah, he just didn't have any touch, so 494 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to have touch. And then, let's 495 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: be fair. Super Bowls are different. It's different playing at 496 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: home against the Giants or brock Purty goes out and 497 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,719 Speaker 1: he looked a little off against brock Purdy. Now you're 498 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: facing Mahomes neutral field, a lot of Chiefs fans. That's 499 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 1: a totally different ball game. And again, although there's rookies 500 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: everywhere in the back end, I hope Snead concussion protocol 501 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: can play for the Chiefs. He fortunately gets a long break, 502 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:51,719 Speaker 1: but I can see scenarios where Andy Reid dials it up. 503 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: Chiefs take a lead, a lot of you know, multiple sets, 504 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff they haven't seen. All of a sudden, 505 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: phil Delphia gets down. Jalen is a little tight for 506 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: a series, Kansas City gets it again, goes up ten 507 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,239 Speaker 1: nothing or fourteen nothing, all of a sudden, Hurts Now 508 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: is really tight. I can see that scenario. I mean 509 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: Kansas City. You know, early in mahomes career he'd fall 510 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: in of these huge deficits and come roaring back. Yeah, 511 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: the new Patrick Mahomes has taken leads, so he's obviously 512 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 1: better at staying on the script early, not veering from it, 513 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: taking leads. So I can absolutely see Kansas City winning 514 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: the coin toss, taking it, taking a lead and thinking, 515 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: and Andy thinking, guys, let's make Jalen Hurts play from 516 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: behind neutral field. You know Super Bowls are different. Everybody's 517 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: a little tight, No, I know. I mean, I heard 518 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: you on the show today you leaning Eagles a little bit. 519 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: It's assuming Jalen's health. I said this today. I know 520 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: the chin will be available. Will Jalen land the punch? 521 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: There are matchup advantages for Philly, they have better roster, 522 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: But I want to see him. He didn't land, He 523 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: couldn't land against San Francisco. They just basically fell apart. 524 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: So I know Mahomes will land his opportunities. I don't 525 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: think he'll have as many. So my initial, my gut feeling, 526 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: was the matchup really favors Philadelphia. If you told me 527 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, If you told me Jalen Hurt's first half 528 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: line and said, okay, he's you know, he's seven for twelve, 529 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: I'd be like, they're a little bit of trouble. I 530 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: think it's very obvious what Kansas City and Spags want 531 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: to do. It's exactly what Damiko Ryans wanted to do. 532 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: Make Jalen beat us, and he didn't look good. I 533 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: saw this story. Jeremy Fowler wrote that there's a chance 534 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: that the Ravens and Lamar are more than one hundred 535 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: or potentially one hundred million dollars apart. And you've talked 536 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: for a long time about like Iyrie's a bad business partner, 537 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,239 Speaker 1: Like it's just bad to be in business with him. Well, 538 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: part of just doing a deal with the player, Like 539 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: it's one thing if I think you're a ten million 540 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: dollars player and you think you're a twelve and we 541 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: can bridge. If you're trying to sell me a home 542 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: and your home's worth two million and I offer one 543 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: point eight, we can figure it out. But if your 544 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: home's were two and I'm offering six hundred thousand, we 545 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: ain't going to get a deal done. So it's starting 546 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: to get to the point like one hundred millions. These 547 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: aren't eight hundred million dollar contracts. That's what are we 548 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: talking about here, Like, listen, I understand this outlier contract 549 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: of Deshaun Watson, but it feels like Lamar is starting 550 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: to be in la la land a little bit about 551 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: what's going on. Because one hundred million dollars this is 552 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: the NFL. That is most contracts ninety nine percent of players. 553 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: So I'm saying, a hundred million dollar contracts, what are 554 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: we doing? Well? We know by watching Lamar Jackson. He's 555 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: wildly emotional. He gets so mad at Lamar. Right, So 556 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: he's young, he's a motion So when he has his 557 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: mom as an agent and not somebody who does this professionally, 558 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: that means the reason I have an agent just to 559 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: keep me out of it. Yeah, he feels very much 560 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: in it. So you're talking about a young man who's 561 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: highly emotional, probably feels slighted, disrespected, and there's probably a 562 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: lot of you know, there's probably a little bit of 563 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: turbulence in this thing. And and so I could see, 564 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: you know, they have offered him a cond I think 565 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: they offered him one hundred and thirty three millions. So 566 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: if they're one hundred off, he wants two thirty three. 567 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: What I wonder is this is if he's not going 568 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: to use an agent, it's just going to be an 569 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: emotional relationship, would you move him because you could get 570 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: with somebody with picks. I mean, Seattle has two ones, 571 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: two twos, two fours. If you're Baltimore and it's like, 572 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: we'll give you Lamar today, give us one of your ones, 573 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: one of your two's, one of your fours, and a one. 574 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: Next year, Baltimore drafts John and develops really, really well, 575 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: we'll take Gino and we'll draft another quarterback. The Jets 576 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: would also they're an emotional franchise that are desperate. I 577 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: think when you look at Lamar, that word emotion is 578 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: a good one because it goes back to the combine. 579 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: One guy said you should play receiver. They got all 580 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: up in their emotions. They refused to run. It's like, Lamar, 581 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: if you had just ran the forty, you would have 582 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: ran like a four to two eight or a four 583 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: three one. There's not a snowball's chance in hell you're 584 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: lasting to pick thirty two. When you run that fast, 585 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: you would have gone way higher and said you've fallen. 586 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: You need to somehow separate this because this is a 587 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: disaster right now. You don't have anyone who can go 588 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: shop you around right now because everything is so close 589 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: to the vest. This is starting to fall apart. I 590 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: used to be on his side, like listen, they are 591 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,719 Speaker 1: so they're you know, his success and their success are 592 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: clearly tied. John Harbow is gonna get fired before he 593 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: came around. But now this is going like, Lamar, your 594 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: guys aren't getting some bad advice and you're gonna get traded. 595 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think I do wonder with Seattle, 596 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: they feel like this is they're shot to like assuming 597 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: they love one of these quarterbacks to kind of John 598 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: Snyder loved Russell Wilson, was big on Josh Allen, and 599 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: I could see him having one of these three guys 600 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: at the top really love and go all in for him. 601 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: You know he's you gotta give him this credit. Like 602 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: when it comes to quarterbacks, they've had a pretty keynote, 603 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: even Gino, like they were proven to be pretty right 604 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: on that one. Well again, Seattle has so it's part 605 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: of trading for Lamar Colin. You'd have been have to 606 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: give him one hundred and ninety million dollars or whatever 607 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: he wants, right, So double whammy. You gotta trade and 608 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: then pay well. Seattle though, not only do they have 609 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: draft capital, They're gonna move off Jamal Adams here pretty quick. Yeah. 610 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: They both tackles, free running back Kenneth Walker, both corners. 611 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,479 Speaker 1: They hit the draft out of the park. John. They 612 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: got six draft fees that are starting. That's six starters. 613 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: You're not paying anything too, so Seattle, and by the way, 614 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: they have I think they need another receiver. But if 615 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: you bring Lamar in, dk Metcalfine Lockett are more than 616 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: enough and Noah Fan and Will Disley. So Seattle's got 617 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: draft capital. They're gonna move off Jamal Adams, I think 618 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: because I think they like their other safeties. And my 619 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: takeaway with Seattle is they're not paying a lot of people. 620 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: They're not and Lamar though expensive would not be Mahomes 621 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: expensive would not be Josh Allen expensive. I mean, I 622 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: could see Seattle giving them a one to two to 623 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: four and you still have a one, two and a four, 624 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: you know on another quarterback, Derek, Listen, there's unless you 625 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 1: got Josh Allen, Mahomes, borrow potentially Herbert and we'll see 626 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: on Lawrence. Like most of these guys under thirty, you're 627 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: not gonna You're not winning Super Bowl, you know, unless 628 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: your team is stacked like the Eagles. But you have 629 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, Dak Prescott, and Derek Carr. Do I love 630 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: paying those guys thirty five forty million dollars? No, But 631 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: if your team, if you're a well run operation, you're 632 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: gonna make the playoffs. And if you make the playoffs, 633 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: that means all season long, your team matters, and that's 634 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 1: worth a lot. Like ultimately the Vikings this year thirteen wins, 635 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: Jerry twelve wins. They were never winning the Super Bowl 636 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: to begin with, but go into the second round. How 637 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: hosting a playoff game is worth a lot to the owner. 638 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: To meet Derek has a lot of value if you 639 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: just get him in a stable organization. You put him 640 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: with the Saints, maybe you get him with Frank in 641 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: the Carolina If that gets you ten win in the playoffs, 642 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: that is well worth thirty two million dollars, is it not. 643 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: I think this one seems obvious. He's gonna get cut. 644 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: He's gonna get cut here, I think in a week, 645 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: because he's not gonna get traded. So if you're cut, Like, 646 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: if you're Carolina and you want him, wouldn't you give 647 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: somebody a pick to secure him? Would you? If if 648 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 1: it's if he's cut, what's the order in which you 649 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: have to buy to get him? But I would just 650 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: tell his agent we will give him like a three 651 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: year contract. You know, I'll give you three years, ninety 652 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: million dollars and guarantee US sixty of it. Like I 653 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: will give you way more money than what we trade 654 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 1: for you. But we want to give you a multi 655 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: year deal, not even just some one thirty. We will 656 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: give you several years. And he can still draft a 657 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: guy in the second or third round and figure it 658 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: out as you go. But you get someone who comes 659 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: in and can play. Say what you want about Cousins. 660 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: Since he's been in Minnesota, he has not been their 661 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: main problem. Does he have flaws? We dump it down 662 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: on fourth down in the playoffs? Yes, but you're in 663 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 1: the playoff game. Think how many think how many teams 664 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: in the league would have died to be in that 665 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: spot hosting a playoff game thirteen wins? So yeah, I 666 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: think Derek the smart business move no trade clause, cut 667 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: me because someone's gonna get I'm too good of a quarterback. 668 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm too high level of a guy. I've never been 669 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: in trouble. I mean I played for the Raiders. Also, 670 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 1: Derek doesn't want to go to a place that had 671 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,720 Speaker 1: to surrender picks. He wants them to have their draft capital. 672 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: So if Derek has a no trade clause, which he does, 673 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 1: Derek can say no, no, no, no, no, no no 674 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: to all of them. So Derek control has all the 675 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: leverage here for sure. Then he gets cut and then 676 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 1: you know. One of the things I saw a story 677 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: about Aaron Rodgers to the Raiders today, and my takeaway 678 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: is You're gonna have no roster flexibility with Aaron's contract 679 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: because they also paid Jacobs, Colton Miller, Max Chandler Waller. 680 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 1: So you have no roster flexibility. You can't give up 681 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: that and picks. So when people say, well give give 682 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: the Packers two ones and two twos, those are four 683 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 1: starters in two years. On defense, like this is what 684 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: Denver's in. Denver's like, we got no cap roster flexibility 685 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: and we don't have any picks. So to me, the 686 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: Raiders are in a weird spot. I think, I honestly 687 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: think the NFC is so weak John that Derek Carr, 688 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: Frank Reich in that defense win that division going away. 689 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: I agree, totally agree. I mean they can win. They 690 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 1: can be hosting multiple playoff games next year. Absolutely. You 691 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: know this. I forgot about Aaron got it. Can never 692 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: let you out here with that in Aaron Rodgers, what's 693 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,240 Speaker 1: your How do you think this all plays out? Fifty 694 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: one percent? Green Bay? I think green You still you 695 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: still think he might stay, yes, because I always come 696 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: back to Green Bay. Minnesota's not going to go eleven 697 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: and oz in one score games. That doesn't work that way. 698 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: The year before they lost them all. This year they 699 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: won them all. So you can just take three or 700 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: four those because with cousins, you don't blow a lot 701 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: of people out. You don't. There's a ceiling. So they're 702 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: gonna hire Brian Flores on defense, but it will be 703 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,359 Speaker 1: better defensively, so they may be a better overall team, 704 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 1: but they're not going to go eleven and oh and 705 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,879 Speaker 1: one score games. If Aaron stayed, they address the tight 706 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: end position and an edge rusher. They got all their picks. 707 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: I think they're going to win the division. Bear still stink. 708 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: I don't trust Detroit, so in Minnesota will come back 709 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 1: down to Earth. I still think that's the place where 710 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:15,879 Speaker 1: Aaron can host a playoff game. Aaron is being very 711 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 1: casual about his future, and I think it's actually a 712 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: brilliant business decision because whoever goes and gets Aaron, you 713 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 1: can't give up a lot of loot to get him. 714 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: And so in Aaron's smart remember when Mellow forced his 715 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: way to the Knicks, and the Knicks had no leverage, 716 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: had to give a ton up. Mellow arrived in New 717 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: York and he was a twenty million dollar chandelier in 718 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: an empty house that no players. So by Aaron saying 719 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: I may play, I may not. I mean the Raiders 720 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 1: will go, okay, can we get two ones? And you're like, 721 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: how about a one and two twos? I'm not sure 722 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,879 Speaker 1: you can get more on the market. I know I've 723 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,439 Speaker 1: talked to a gim about this. What are you willing 724 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 1: to give up for a guy that can retire after 725 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: a year? Well, to me, think about his contemporaries, right, Obviously, 726 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: Brady was like, I'm playing to like I'm fifty. You 727 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: know I'm never gonna quit. Manning never would have quit 728 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 1: if his arm didn't fall off, Breeze couldn't throw. If 729 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: you traded for those guys when they were still as 730 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: good as Aaron, you just knew they were gonna play 731 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: until they couldn't play anymore. Aaron has been talking about 732 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 1: retirement now consistently for several years, and he's doing weird stuff. 733 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 1: I think if he operated like Peyton or Breeze, teams 734 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: would have no problem. I'll give you two ones for 735 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,800 Speaker 1: thirty if a guy for more years. But he's the opposite. 736 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: You think he's doing it specifically to limit or that's 737 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 1: actually what he thinks. Well, I said today, I don't know. 738 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: It may be an incidental, accidental stroke of genius, but 739 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: it does pretty much guarantee that whoever trades for him 740 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 1: won't have to give up as much as if Instead 741 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: of saying I'm playing forever, so I mean, I think 742 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: I always put myself in the spot. If I'm the 743 00:40:53,680 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 1: Raiders GM, I'd be like, all right, oh, I want Aaron, 744 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 1: but I can get Garoppolo and not give up anything. 745 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: I'll give you two ones. That's it. No more picks, 746 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: no more. I would do two ones for Aaron, but 747 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 1: I wouldn't give you more than that. That's it. And 748 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: when you consider he was an MVP back to back MVP, 749 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,800 Speaker 1: you know two years ago, that's not a lot. Go 750 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: look what Russell Wilson fetched. I think the way you 751 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 1: have to do it is that second pick is based 752 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 1: on like, if we have success my first year and 753 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 1: he returns that, if we make the AFC Championship game, 754 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 1: I'll give you two ones. If he retires on me, 755 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 1: that one turns into a four, you know something. But 756 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 1: there has to be some We're taking on some risk 757 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 1: here because this guy could be you know, in the 758 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 1: jungles in South America. You know, I don't know where 759 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: he's gonna be, right. I saw your guy Klatt Blast 760 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 1: in the USC recruiting class. I know you got any 761 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: any thoughts on the players? Lincoln's he he didn't love, 762 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 1: not enough defense in the class and any Colin Coward 763 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:07,320 Speaker 1: thoughts on that one. Yeah, My thoughts are, when you 764 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 1: have Caleb Williams to eight to eighteen year olds, do 765 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 1: you any good? Next year he's bringing in twenty one 766 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 1: year old players who were like all conference guys. So 767 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 1: he brings in one of the best corners in the 768 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: conference and one of the best receivers from Arizona. He 769 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 1: brings in a top linebacker from Oklahoma State. They're going 770 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: for the national championship next year. They're they're not going 771 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 1: for They brought a running back in from South Carolina. 772 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: He's a five star guy. So I think the way 773 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 1: Lincoln looks at it is, listen, if we were rebuilding 774 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:49,240 Speaker 1: at quarterback, it's the long play. It's not. They believe 775 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,720 Speaker 1: they were two plays from thirteen wins and they wouldn't 776 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 1: have been blown out if Caleb stayed healthy. So they 777 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: believe everybody on their schedule they're going and they will 778 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 1: be a better defensive team. They have better personnel, they're deeper. 779 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,800 Speaker 1: But the reason they went light on high schoolers is 780 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 1: because they're playing for a national title next year. That's 781 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,760 Speaker 1: how they view it. A playoff spot. Well, those eighteen 782 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,359 Speaker 1: year olds can be five star. They're not gonna play. 783 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 1: They're not gonna get on the field. They had a 784 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 1: kid this year, Relief Brown. He was a running back, 785 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 1: five star kid, clever player, had no real impact, probably 786 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,840 Speaker 1: six plays all year because they had like Austin Jones 787 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 1: and they had Travis Dye. We're like four years older, 788 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 1: so they've been in a college weight room for four years. 789 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,760 Speaker 1: They're just they're just men. So I mean, I looked 790 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,399 Speaker 1: at USC's recruiting class. They're high school recruiting class. This year. 791 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: They brought in about fifteen kids. They have two that 792 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 1: are gonna play. One of them, Za Carrion Branch, is 793 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 1: a wide receiver. He will play. He's Reggie Bush on 794 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: the perimeter. He is a wildly explosive player. He will 795 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:05,879 Speaker 1: play the lineman, won't. They brought in a linebacker from Louisiana. 796 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 1: He'll be a rotational player. But I'm not sure any 797 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: of them outside of Branch have a chance to start. 798 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 1: And they're mostly four star kids, so this is not 799 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,479 Speaker 1: Remember when Nick Saban started at Alabama, the transfer portal 800 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 1: didn't exist like this, so he was building for the 801 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 1: long haul. And even Nick brought in multiple junior college 802 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 1: guys those first three years because Nick didn't want to 803 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 1: wait four years to rebuild. He wanted to be a 804 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 1: title contender by year two. And I think he won 805 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:40,359 Speaker 1: it in year three. Yeah, So I think next year 806 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 1: they'll probably wean off the portal a little. Well, here's 807 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: where the portals really effective, John, there's fewer whiffs. You 808 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 1: have tape their division one. You bring in twelve guys. 809 00:44:54,600 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 1: Eleven can play that day. So even Saban in a 810 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: twenty five person class, Saban, eight guys can't play, and 811 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: there's another eight that either academically, physically, emotionally they underachieve. 812 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,319 Speaker 1: You get about eight guys a class who live up 813 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 1: to the four to five star that's with Saban. So 814 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 1: I think the future is transfers. At least half your 815 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 1: class have to be transfers. So do you think there's 816 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 1: pressure on him to obviously win the conference and just 817 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 1: a minimum make it to the playoffs when he's got, 818 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 1: you know, maybe the best prospect they've ever had. I 819 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 1: don't even think it's pressure. I think I think he 820 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,720 Speaker 1: looks at Caleb is easily the best player in the country. 821 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 1: So and they've asked Caleb to help in recruiting with 822 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 1: these portal transfer kids, so it's like, what do we 823 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 1: So they went to Arizona and they got this kid 824 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,880 Speaker 1: singer or a wide receiver. Well, he's going to be 825 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 1: a late first early second round pick. So if I 826 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: get a five star receiver, he's not as good as 827 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,719 Speaker 1: that kid. He ate USC's DBS alive last year and 828 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,439 Speaker 1: they and Lincoln told people, we gotta get that guy. 829 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 1: By the way, they also had a corner that was 830 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,800 Speaker 1: really good. Lincoln's like, we gotta get that guy's guys. 831 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: Jed couldn't have Oh he wasn't. But that's you know, 832 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: it's college football in two thousand and twenty three. You 833 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 1: gotta try whatever you gain to keep your guys, and 834 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 1: it's part of the deal. Yeah. I mean, if again, 835 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:25,839 Speaker 1: I think Caleb is the first quarterback. I mean, very 836 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,240 Speaker 1: few quarterbacks they put in the Andrew Luck Trevor Lawrence 837 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 1: class where they're gonna succeed regardless of mismanagement. I think 838 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 1: Caleb maybe the third guy. I think he's that good. Yeah, 839 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: I think he's one of the biggest. He'll be one 840 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,439 Speaker 1: of the most anticipated college stars in a long time. Yeah, 841 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,360 Speaker 1: you know, just Luck was obviously great college player, and 842 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,360 Speaker 1: he was fun to watch for the football nerds. But 843 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 1: this guy's running around, he's got a little bit stronger 844 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 1: of an arm, a little more just the casual fan. 845 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: You don't need to be Bill Polian to realize that. Jeez, 846 00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: a little Michael Vick to him. But he also can 847 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,319 Speaker 1: kind of throw like luck. It's just this guy might 848 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 1: just be I mean, he's gonna be the number one 849 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 1: overall pick. Yeah he will d yes pretty good quarterback draft. 850 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 1: So you know, if you if you suck this year 851 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 1: your team does, you might as well enjoy it because 852 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 1: it might lead to greatness. Yeah, well, Colin, when you 853 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,799 Speaker 1: head it out to Arizona, I'm doing the Wednesday show 854 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,760 Speaker 1: from Los Angeles. I get on a flight to Phoenix, 855 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 1: go to the Volume party. All right, you're gonna be there, 856 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 1: of course, I will see you there yet. Then Thursday 857 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 1: Friday do the shows, and then I fly back Saturday morning, 858 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 1: where I'm gonna hang out and watch the game from 859 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,879 Speaker 1: home and take notes as I do every year. That's 860 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 1: what I do, So I can't wait. I'm excited. We'll 861 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 1: see a Wednesday and have a good week, all right, Buddy, 862 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:13,360 Speaker 1: and the Volume