1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Noel. They call 6 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: me Ben. We're joined as always with our super producer, 7 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: Alexis code named Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you are you, 8 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: You are here, and that makes this stuff they don't 9 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: want you to know quite excited. As you all know, 10 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: I have a history of trying to convince uh producers 11 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: to come on the mic and become a host. Uh. 12 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: Some people in this room have experienced that cajoling first had. 13 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: But I'm quite excited that Doc Holiday co named Doc Holiday, 14 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: excuse me is is making some more appearances on the mic. 15 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: So if you hear someone chiming in, that is our 16 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: own super producer. Is not a trick of the light, 17 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: no trick of the earphones. Uh. And this is our 18 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: listener mail segment for the week. We have so many things, 19 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: we have such wonders to show you, as the center 20 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: bytes say, but today we're just going to explore three 21 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: very odd ones we've got we've got a mystery pick 22 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: towards the end, we've got some occultism in science. We've 23 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: even finally one of my favorite things got acrypted, right, Matt, Yeah, 24 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: we got a crypted first stop Lake Vostok. We've been 25 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: there before on this show. We're going back vol Stock 26 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: however you want to say it. We got a voicemail 27 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: from a Rose, so we're going to listen to that 28 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: right now. Hi, then, Matt All, Uh, this is Rose 29 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: Rose from California for us knows to be exact. And Uh, 30 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: I was wondering. I was listening to that podcast you 31 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: guys were talking about with the water, that freshwater lake 32 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: that was under Antarctica. Well, I was speaking with my 33 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: boyfriend and he told me his story about how some 34 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: scientists went in and not all of them came back, 35 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: and they had some sort of camera on them, camera equipment, 36 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: so they got to see what happened to these people, 37 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: and what they saw was a squid like creature that 38 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: could morph into a human because that's where they thought 39 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: this person was or this thing, and it snatched them. 40 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: So free feel uh, feel free to use my voice 41 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: on air. I don't mind, and I hope you guys 42 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: find this message. Well, I hope the guys are doing good. 43 00:02:52,440 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for the countless hours of entertainment. Yes. Yes, somebody 44 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: called in just now and said, Hey, I had a 45 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: conversation with my boyfriend and he says that the scientists 46 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: went into this lake and some of them didn't come back. 47 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: Holy crap made my day, so did some Uh a 48 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: little digging here everybody, Rose, thank you, thank you so 49 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: much for calling in, Thank you for having that conversation 50 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: and forgetting us so excited. Uh well, I found out 51 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: what your boyfriend was talking about. Rose, I've got it 52 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: right here. It is a story that many have come 53 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: to call the organism forty six dash b or B. 54 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: And this thing is something that I feel like I 55 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: recall hearing about a couple of years ago, maybe maybe 56 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: a little bit after that, um, around the time when 57 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: there was some serious interest in Antarctica and drilling beneath 58 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: like there's this huge amounts of ice that has has 59 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: to be drilled down into to get to these freshwater 60 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: lakes that are beneath all of that ice um in 61 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: certain places of Antarctica, and there is actual research going 62 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: on there, and there was actual life found beneath all 63 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: of that ice, and some of them were squid like creatures. Um. 64 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: But the story itself, the one that your boyfriend's talking about, 65 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: Rose goes a little something like this, And I'm getting 66 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: this from There are a lot of different websites. One 67 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: is Cryptid's dot fandom dot com. Another one is ufo 68 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: insight dot com. Another one is called forsythe Stories dot com. 69 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: But there are there are a whole bunch of places 70 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: online where you can read this and this is what 71 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: the claim is. On Antarctica, there was a Russian mission 72 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: where scientists accidentally stumbled upon alien life essentially that existed 73 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: down underneath the ice in Lake vos Stock And I'm 74 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: just gonna read this directly from cryptids with a z 75 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: dot fandom dot com. So where we are is Vostok Station. 76 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: We've talked about before on this show. It was established 77 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: by the Soviets in n Um. You know, it's above 78 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: Lake Vostok, this large body of water, but as ice 79 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: between the water and where the actual scientists would be 80 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: operating from. Uh, there's a ton of ice core drilling 81 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: that goes down into that ice to reach the water. 82 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: It's very generally very small bore holes that are created 83 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: to get down into that ice and to gain access 84 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: and to look at it. There's a scientist there was 85 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: a part of some of these drilling expeditions or not expeditions, 86 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: drilling uh exercises and research. And this doctor's name is 87 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: Anton Padalka p A d A l k A. This 88 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: person allegedly was a part of the first quote scientific 89 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: expedition to explore the lake, so to actually go down 90 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: through the ice and into the lake itself. Um. And 91 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: there's a quote, here's a quote from Padalka. We encountered 92 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: organism forty six B on our first day. It disabled 93 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: our radio, which we later learned to our alarm was intentional. 94 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: It is also able to paralyze prey from a distance 95 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: of up to one hundred and fifty feet by releasing 96 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: its venom into the water. Uh. This is like serious 97 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: nightmare fuel stuff for me. I'm I'm a big I 98 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 1: have a big fear of water dwelling cryptid's personally, yes, yes, yes, um. 99 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: And also a part of this quote, by the way, 100 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: you should be terrified. Tragically, my colleague and lifelong friend 101 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: was killed this way. So what they're talking about this 102 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: creature si B was allegedly a fourteen count that fourteen 103 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: tentacled squid like creature that was discovered within the lake. 104 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: Very strange. Right. Also according to the same Dr Anton Padalka, Uh, 105 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: this thing was able to shape shift and made itself 106 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: look as though it was a human that these scientists 107 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: were encountering, as though it was another team member or 108 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: something that was down there in the deep before it 109 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: then attacked and killed one of the other scientists. Right. 110 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: But there, I mean, I don't want to derailists. Uh. 111 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: There are some things I followed this story. Submiteration of 112 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: it comes up every few years. Rose. First, thank you 113 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: for the excellent suggestion. I had actually thought about making 114 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: a whole episode just about just about that contentkerous old 115 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: forty six b Uh. Things that stand out first off, 116 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: that squid and cuttle fish Uh, and of course octopuses 117 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: do have some profound amazing powers. I think we mentioned 118 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: obliquely in a previous episode. Fascinating study theorizing that the 119 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: octopus and its cousins may actually be extraterrestrial in origin. 120 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: Of course that's not proven, but it's a great thought experiment. 121 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: So one of the best ways to evaluate this is 122 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: first to look at the biological capabilities described and compare 123 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: them to the biological capabilities proven in similar animals. First, yes, squid, octopuses, 124 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: cuttle fish and so on are venomous. They can deliver 125 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: a toxic bite. Uh. Squid venom is as deadly to 126 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: crabs as the most lethal snake venom is to mice. 127 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: So that part is true. The venom part, which might 128 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: sound easy, is true. Uh. The next one would be 129 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: number of tentacles. So it's fourteen, right. Well, there's an 130 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: interesting thing here because if this creature is able to uh, 131 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: if its form is malleable, if it can shape shift 132 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: to mimic other things, which is another thing that you 133 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: know an octopus can do. Uh, then is it simply 134 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: appearing to have fourteen tentacles the way it appeared to 135 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: be humanoid? Again, this might sound like overthinking it, but 136 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: that's literally all I do all the time, So I'm 137 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: going to continue. The other thing is um. The other 138 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: thing is this has been reported in MSN. This has 139 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: been reported in UH in express, which I know, not 140 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: the not the perfect, not the perfect thing. But you'll 141 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: be hard pressed to find information about dr Anton Padalka 142 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: outside of this story. You will also be a hard 143 00:09:55,320 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: pressed to find more recent developments. But logically we know 144 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: that the Russian government has an extensive history of attempting 145 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: to weaponize animals like shout out to that, Uh, what 146 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: was it? Was it a Was it a dolphin or 147 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: a porpoise? It was harness had harness on, So that 148 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: stuff really happens. The thing with the thing with six 149 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: B is that as it was thirty three ft long, right, 150 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: it's correct. So if it's thirty three ft long, it's 151 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: in stark contrast and extraordinary. Amid all the other creatures 152 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: discovered under Lake Volstok, of which there were more than 153 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: thirty right, three thousand, five hundred plus at a lot 154 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: of those things are just as amazing as the scripted 155 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 1: but the differences they're proven to be real. These are 156 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: like bacteria that we've never seen before. Uh, things that 157 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: might be multi cellular creatures. One researcher said back in 158 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: there might even be fish down there, which is very exciting, 159 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: very controversial statement, and the guy immediately backpedaled on this. 160 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: I believe that the reports from MSN Express, which echo 161 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: the cryptid like the story that you were counting, Matt 162 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 1: I believe those hit around. I want to say, so, 163 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: why hasn't there been more news about it? Well, because 164 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: it does appear that this entire thing was made up. 165 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: It appears that there's a gentleman named C. Michael Forsyth 166 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: who wrote this story as a short fiction horror story, 167 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: essentially science fiction horror man. I know, and I'm so 168 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: sorry to bring everybody down into like to cut it 169 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: off there, but you can go to forsythe fo R 170 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: s y t H s T O R I E 171 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: S for scythe stories dot com and you can find 172 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 1: this very story and uh you can see you can 173 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: see how it's copyright um see Michael for scythe at 174 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: the bottom. And it is all of the quotations that 175 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: you have seen in all these other places from this 176 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: Pedalica guy, this alleged scientist, all the organism forties six 177 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: B and all of that stuff, all the shape shifting accounts. 178 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 1: Unless anyone out there has, you know, better intelligence, like 179 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: maybe somebody's from somewhere actually knows this pedult gun was 180 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: actually he was actually defecting and getting away and you know, 181 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: seeking asylum somewhere else because of what he found out 182 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: to be true at Lake Vostok. Um we have to 183 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: can I have to consider this one at least to 184 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: be debunked. And it makes me really sad. Well, Uh 185 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: is a Russian name. There's that. Uh. Yeah, you're you're right, Matt, 186 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 1: I found the same thing. The This story is um 187 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: a great story. That part is true. Uh, but this 188 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: this discovery doesn't doesn't hold up. And that's not to 189 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: say that there are not undiscovered large fauna out there 190 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: in the briny deep. That's actually the place we're most 191 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: likely to find something new. Um. But one one important 192 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: part of the potential audience we should acknowledge here Organism 193 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: forty six B. If you're listening and you're smart enough 194 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: to disable technology, uh, we would love to talk to you. 195 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: I think there was a Twilight Zone episode about you 196 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: recently based on this story. Uh. And Mr Forsyth, if 197 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: you're listening, I hope they paid you for your work. 198 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: But was it really was it really a twilight Zone 199 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: about this very thing? Yes, that's correct. Twilight Zone season two, 200 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: episode six of the reboot, which I love. There is 201 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: a crazy octopus. Episode has a lot kinds of people 202 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: who are deep in the ocean and they find a 203 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: super intelligent octopus like creature and it reeks havoc, hilarity ensues. 204 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: Oh dude, that was written by Glenn Morrigan from the 205 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: writer of The X Files. Yes, Joe McHale in it. Yes, 206 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: I haven't seen any of those new Twilight Zones. Are 207 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: they pretty good? Ben? I like him, but I'm the 208 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: worst person asked. Twilight Zone is one moment of a 209 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: favorite shows. And I'm also big early Twilight Zone fan 210 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: that said they created so many incredible tropes. Uh, like 211 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: you know where they weren't tropes back when they were 212 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: just like a good idea from Rod Serling um Man. 213 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: This is a weird one, guys, and and Rose, we 214 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: don't want to leave you hanging again. The stuff that 215 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: has been proven to be found in Lake Wolstock is crazy. 216 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: And do please do let your friends and your boyfriend 217 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: know that there are ancient microbes that were buried for 218 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: millennia in the polls and now those things are re 219 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: emerging from the ice and they're they're the kind of 220 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: the kind of creature that can survive that deep freeze. 221 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: We don't know what they'll do, They don't know how 222 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: they will affect or not affect the world today. It's true. 223 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: Uh you guys remember that show Strange Arrivals with Toby 224 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: that we shot. We're working on the second season right now. 225 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: And just because we mentioned the X Files, I have 226 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: to say this, Toby is going to be speaking with 227 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: Chris Carter for that season. Amazing, he actually gets to 228 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: talk to the X Files guy. I'm so excited to 229 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: hear what what what Chris Carter has to say about 230 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: actual UFOL experiences that people have gone through. It's amazing. Yeah, 231 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: it's great. So stay tuned. Can you tell us around 232 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: about when that might be hit in the airwaves. I 233 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: cannot have to wait to see. Okay, all right, I 234 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: dig it. I like a little mystery here. Yeah. Yeah. 235 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: And with that, we're going to take a break and 236 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: we will come back with more listener messages from you, 237 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: and we're back. Received an email with a pretty compelling 238 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: uh num de plume that is android A or a 239 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: A writes in and says, Hi, guys, I've always been 240 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: a fan of the show and this is something I 241 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: always look forward to during the week. I have a 242 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: topic for you guys to discuss, and it is about 243 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: the Islamic anti Christ daj all. This could be a 244 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: talk for the whole episode, as none other than Jack Parsons, 245 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: who you guys might have heard of, used to call 246 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: himself that it would be great to hear your takes 247 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: on the topic. If you would like to discuss this 248 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: on the show, please refer to me as A or 249 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: android A. You got it, Android, Android A. Uh, we're 250 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: we're on this. So Jack Parsons, for the uninitiated, you know, 251 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: realized why that's such a bad joke later, is instrumental 252 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: in two things. Rocketry and he's legit. He's a legit 253 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: rocket scientist and the occult. Depending on your opinion about 254 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: all things occults in general, he's an expert on that too. 255 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: He is. He's one of those larger than life characters. 256 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: He pioneered liquid and solid fuel rockets, who's born into 257 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: money in l a And for a long time, his 258 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: other great love, magic, thelemic magic specifically, was sort of 259 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: an open secret with his friends or with the people 260 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: who were tasked I'll just say the people who are 261 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: tasked to keep an eye on his wild while they 262 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: needed him to conduct research into rocketry. So here's the scoop, 263 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: and we could go we could dive deep into an 264 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: exploration of his magical operations or his occult predilections. It 265 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,959 Speaker 1: would take up a full episode. It would be similar 266 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: to our episode on some of the beliefs of members 267 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: of the Nazi Party in that people needed him for 268 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: the rush torocketry, and they put up with a lot 269 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: of stuff, you know what I mean, just like the 270 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: federal government relaxing drug use laws when they realized that 271 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: hackers love getting high and they needed to have some 272 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: decent hackers. So, first, Android, your note is correct in 273 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: something called the Oath of the Abyss, as well as 274 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: the Oath of the Anti Christ, which Jack Parsons made. 275 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: He purports, or he says, he embodied an entity whose 276 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: full name is Valerion our millists al Dajal the Anti 277 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: Christ quote, who am come to fulfill the law of 278 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 1: the Beast? Six six six? Now, long time listeners, who 279 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: do you think that is? Any? Guess? Is I think Matt? 280 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: I feel like it's a softball, the law of your way? 281 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: But who do you think that is? No, who do 282 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 1: you think it is? Is it? Maybe Satan? No, it's 283 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: a it's a It's a real person. Okay, I Well, 284 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: Satan's a real person if you believe, well, well he's 285 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: a person. Satan would be an angel that this person 286 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: would be Anton close close it's an a alright, alright, doc, 287 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: do you have a guest, Doc holiday It's I do 288 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: not okay? But what is his name? Rhymes with Ali 289 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: oh alistair our boy Ali Ali Crowley uh famed uh 290 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: famed heroin addict uh and just bad person to be 291 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 1: in a relationship with. Also dabbled in magic and poetry, 292 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: especially if you're in a pyramid with him and oh 293 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: boy the stories uh So Parsons is working within this 294 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: this magical uh system and he's he's attempting to perform 295 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: magical rights. However, the name Balarion our millist al Dajal 296 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: is sort of a self a self generated and self 297 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: applied kind of. I would say he goes beyond a name. 298 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: It's it's a persona right because I will always I 299 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: will always be grateful to our pal. Damian Patrick Williams 300 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: for the perfect description of magic and credit where it's 301 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: do he called it weaponized psychology. That was brilliant, Damian. 302 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: If you're listening, I I hope the dissertation is going well. 303 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: I'd love to have you on the show again sometime. 304 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: But but Parsons, he really did believe this stuff, you 305 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: know what I mean. It wasn't like a It wasn't 306 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: like a trapping that he used for um dating people 307 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: are getting into bed with them. It seemed like something 308 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: he genuinely believed. He even testified in federal court in 309 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: defense of his magical beliefs and his religion, saying specifically, uh, 310 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: thelemma is both anti fascist and anti communist, because are 311 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: the number one thing we believe in your honor is individualism. 312 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: So if you think about it, my weird magic stuff 313 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: is as American as apple pie. Nobody, nobody at the 314 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: time I imagined, pointed out that apples originated in Kazakhstan. 315 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: We just don't talk about that part. That's true, though. 316 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: That's just a little bit of extra food stuff thrown 317 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: on the on the side of the plate here, um 318 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: making me hungry again. This episode been stop it? Oh great? Yeah. 319 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: The thing is, the magical systems that they're practicing are 320 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: are so incredibly complex, and we've got a lot of 321 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: listeners in our in our astral room digital room right 322 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: now who are currently practicing some some sort of system 323 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: that people might lump into the broad category of magic 324 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: with this. With this in mind, though, you know, I 325 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: would say, first off, why do so many people get 326 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: into any kind of magical working and they immediately want 327 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: to be the anti Christ? It's like it sounds cool, 328 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: I would argue, the anti Christ. It's fun to say, 329 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: got a nice ring to it. Yeah, But it's like 330 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: it's like, you gotta you gotta work your way up. 331 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: You have to earn that, you know, Why don't why 332 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: don't you try to Why don't you try to be 333 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: you know, just be be some other not quite at 334 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: the top force yet, and then and then get there everybody. 335 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: I just I feel like it's lazy to immediately start 336 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: out as the anti Christ. But then there's also the misunderstanding. 337 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: Perhaps people are just saying, I embody aspects of this thing, 338 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like I'm flexing for it. 339 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: Heard I don't. I'm with you, man, Yeah, sorry, I 340 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: didn't mean it's to be a condemnation of the Antichrist, 341 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: which is not, which is weird, Like, oh god, how 342 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: do we get out of this? What we need to 343 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: do is we need to study how do you say 344 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: it been? D All? We need to study. We need 345 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: to make a video five things you Don't Know about 346 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: Djal and it will be our second most popular video 347 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: on YouTube. I guarantee it well weird because Djoll in 348 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: Arabic is the I think it's technically to nerd out 349 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: on it, but it's technically it's the superlative form of 350 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: the route where d j L dagell I believe, which 351 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: means lie or deception. It also means deceiver, so it's 352 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: kind of like just calling yourself the liar guy. That's awesome. 353 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: I just I feel like we should break it down. 354 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: I feel like this is I don't know if this 355 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: is interesting to you all, but I am fascinated because 356 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: this was an incredibly brilliant man who truly believed in 357 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: these things. And of course brilliance and accuracy are not 358 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: always going to be close bedfellows, but it's it's fascinating. 359 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: Something convinced him. What do you think it was. If 360 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: you are an expert on this or if you dabbled 361 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: in the past, we would love to hear from you. 362 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: I have more to explore on this, but I mean, 363 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: I hold it because I think this is a full episode. 364 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: I think you're right. Android A Uh, so stay tuned 365 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: because we'll be we'll be exploring Jack Parsons in a 366 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: very not safe for work episode in the near future. 367 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: Just so you know, there's not going to be one 368 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: for the kids. But with that being said, we're going 369 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: to pause to invoke our own magical working, which is 370 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: the summoning of the sponsors, and then we'll return with 371 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: one more piece of listener mail. And we're back with 372 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: our final piece of listener mail. And this one hit 373 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: not close to home exactly, but close to a previous 374 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: home I had, or at least a vacation destination associated 375 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: with the previous home I had. Being cryptic enough for you, 376 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: we'll let me get right to it. The subject of 377 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: the email is Monkey Island, and no, I'm not referring 378 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: to that classic PC game Monkey Island, which was absolutely 379 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 1: a thing. Hey guys, this is from a Noble Savage Forge. 380 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: By the way, I'm assuming that's uh this this gentleman's business. 381 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: So I hope I did a solid by calling it out. 382 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: That maybe makes like cool blades or something. Um, Noble 383 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: Savage Forge. This one comes from Aaron and he says, hey, guys, 384 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: love the show. Hollering at you from Spartanburg, South Carolina. 385 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: Have you heard of Monkey Island. There's a small inlet 386 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: island in South Carolina around Fripp Island, South Carolina called 387 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: Morgan Island that is populated by you guess, did monkeys 388 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: that were put there for government experimentation. I hope you 389 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: find this interesting. Thanks guys, Aaron Um. And this let's 390 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 1: hit a nerve with me because I had I had 391 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 1: neighbors that I grew up next door to in Augusta, 392 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: Georgia who had a lake house in South Carolina. Uh, 393 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: not terribly far from this, and I distinctly have a 394 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: memory of hearing them say we're in their boat on 395 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: the on the lake and they were like, hey, let's 396 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: go to Monkey Island. And it was too fall are 397 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 1: we didn't go. But at the time I'd assumed it 398 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: was a clever name, and I didn't know anything about 399 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: this stuff. But it's true. Monkey Island is an island 400 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: exactly as Aaron described that you can see exclusively by boat. 401 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: You can't you're not supposed to go onto the island. Um. 402 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 1: But it's scenario called the low country Morgan Island near 403 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: Beaufort or Buford. Uh. Now I think it's Beaufort UM 404 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: and since the seventies, this tiny little island has been 405 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: populated by a colony of Reese's monkeys UM. And at 406 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: this point, I think it started off with just a 407 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,959 Speaker 1: handful that were dropped there um because of a change 408 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: in the law of like importing monkeys from India. So 409 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: they wanted to make scientists wanted to make a self 410 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: sustaining monkey colony that they could just go to and 411 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: pluck them out whenever they wanted to do like science 412 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: experiments on them. UM. And to this day there are 413 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: around four thousand of these monkeys that hang around on 414 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 1: this very specific island UM and it's used by the 415 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases again as a 416 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: source of research. And this island is two thousand acres 417 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: UH and it's owned and managed by the South Carolina 418 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: Department of Natural Resources, and it's protected under federal law. 419 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: So definitely a no no to try to go on 420 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: the island, but you are allowed to, you know, get 421 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: close enough to see some some monkey action going on. 422 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: But the monkeys are literally just roaming free on this island, procreating. 423 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: That's that's the desired effect. UM. And yeah, it's uh, 424 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: it's become kind of like like almost like the stuff 425 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: of of of legends. Monkey Island. I remember hearing about 426 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: this when I was a kid. Isn't that weird, guys? Yeah? Yeah, 427 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: the weirdest thing is this is ah, this is a 428 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: is almost a genre of island. You know, there's another 429 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: Monkey Island in Puerto Rico. There are a couple of islands. 430 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: Quite surprise, people that are ruled entire really buy animals. 431 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: Sometimes they're they're sort of cautionary tales of good intentions 432 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: god awry or creatures with no natural predators run amuck. 433 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: What's interesting here There Bunny Rabbit Island in Japan. What's 434 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: interesting here though, is that these were purposefully placed there. 435 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,479 Speaker 1: They're not like the hippos of Pablo Escobar's fame. Uh, 436 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: They're not like the the islands filled with snakes, right, 437 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: venomous stakes. That's that's a lot of fun. It reminds me. 438 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: There's this book I love that I'd like to recommend 439 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: to anybody who enjoyed the earlier recommendation of Atlas of 440 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: Remote Islands. There's also the Atlas of Cursed Places, where 441 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: you can learn much more about some of the dangerous 442 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: islands run by animals. Full name Atlas of Cursed Places, 443 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,719 Speaker 1: travel Guide to Dangerous and Frightful Destinations worth the read. 444 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: Get it into heart back if you can. But Monkey 445 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: Island here in the specifically in South Carolina, has been 446 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: really successful, right. I think they've got like four thousand 447 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: recist monkeys right now. Yeah, that's right. Um. And it's 448 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: interesting because the land is is, like I said, owned 449 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: by the and managed by the South Carolina Department of 450 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: Natural Resources, and these monkeys are protected and they're not 451 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: used for research anymore. So it's sort of just it 452 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: was like initially, uh, set up as this colony that 453 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: was meant to be self sufficient because they couldn't export um, 454 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: monkeys from India anymore. Um, But now they've abandoned that entirely, 455 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: and it's really just more of a preservation thing um. 456 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: And humans are not allowed on the island and it's 457 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: sort of this various like self sustaining kind of ecosystem. Um. 458 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: But like you said, if you were in the area, 459 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: you are welcome to take a cruise by and you 460 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: can get close enough to definitely see a monkey or 461 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: two kind of hanging around, um doing doing whatever monkeys 462 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: do possible. Least you might see some monkey sex. Uh 463 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: you might have to cover your children's eyes if that's 464 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: the case, because you know that's what they're there for. 465 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: Um interesting stuff. Though I don't know, Like I I 466 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: remember Monkey Island for when I was a kid, and 467 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: I just assumed it was a cute name for like 468 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: an island. But no, it's it's a very appropriate name. 469 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,959 Speaker 1: There's there's, there's, there's monkeys on that on that island. 470 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,719 Speaker 1: Canna go ahead and give a shout out to Lucas 471 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: Films Games or Lucas Games for their series Monkey Island 472 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: Tale and Tales of Monkey Island, which I think is 473 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: tell Tale created that one where it's it's just an 474 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: adorable and fun adventure about pirates. And I would like 475 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: to give a shout out to Brazil just for the 476 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: whole place. Actually, I'd like to give a shout out 477 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: to Brazil for keeping the location of one animal run 478 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: island somewhat off the map. It's called Snake Island, so 479 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: the coast. It's widely recognized as uh quote, the most 480 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: dangerous place on the planet. It is full, chock full, 481 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: riddled with the most venomous snakes in the world. About 482 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: five snakes per square meter live on the island uh 483 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: and the lighthouse keeper was the last person who lived there. 484 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: Attacked by snakes, plot Twist died and came came back 485 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: to life as a snake freaking revenge. And since that moment, 486 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: the lighthouse has been automated and the Brazilian government prohibits 487 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: any visitors from setting foot there. I guess maybe you 488 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: could fly over. But I'm a big fan of uh. 489 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: Of listening to the experts when they tell you not 490 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: to go to these kind of islands, I ignore all 491 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: kinds of other stuff. You're trespassing employees only. I don't care. 492 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: But if someone's like, leave these, leave these autonomous monkeys alone. 493 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: Don't go to a place called snake Island, or trust me, 494 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: the full of North Sentinel Islands have been fine since 495 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: the Stone Age, and they don't care if you roll 496 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: up on a boat. I think you listen to them. 497 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: You should, you would and should. Um. There is one, however, 498 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: animal island that you can go to. I mentioned it 499 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: briefly a second ago, Rabbit Island in uh In, off 500 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: the coast of Hirishima, Japan, um and it is occupied 501 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: by thousands of wild rabbits located in eastern Hiroshima. Um 502 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: it's a small island with hundreds rather of wild rabbits 503 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: that just roam free. Um and tourists can can plan 504 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: a little fairy revisit to the island and and feed 505 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: the rabbits. And it's a popular place for folks to come, 506 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: you know, get swarmed by rabbits like are like Napoleon 507 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: in that ridiculous History episode UM and Rabbit Island is apparently, 508 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: uh considered a place to seek good fortune for your 509 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: own families fertility. So all you can go to the 510 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: website rabbit dash Island dot info and it shows you 511 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: how to plan in your visit. So and what what 512 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: better way to end on a positive note? How far 513 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,439 Speaker 1: we have come in just about forty minutes or so. 514 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 1: Thank you so much Rose for writing to us. And 515 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: you know, hey, shout out organism forty six b if 516 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: you're out there, UH wave a tentacle would love to 517 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: hear from you. Thank you to android A with the 518 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: excellent question slash inspiration about Jack Parsons. I can't believe 519 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: we haven't done this yet. And of course thank you 520 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: to Noble Forge for introducing us to uh my next 521 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: off the grid tourist destination. I don't know about you, guys. 522 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: I I okay, I won't go on there, but I 523 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: would like to get to the shore and just like 524 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: we could be the cryptid for those monkeys, you know 525 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: what I mean. We could be on the boat, throw 526 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: some like cool treats for them and then well like 527 00:34:53,640 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 1: disappear dope monkeys like berries, barrels. Yeah, that's true. Donkeys. 528 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: Oh it's Matt's bananas. Sorry, that's the cliche thing that 529 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: that monkeys like. UM, let us know what what what 530 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: are your favorite animal islands that we may be left 531 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 1: off the list? What are your favorite animals? 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