1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I'm Tutor Dixon and 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: it is great to have you tuning into the podcast today. 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: I am joined by an expert in historical and constitutional issues, 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: David Barton. He's the founder of Wall Builders, a published 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: author and speaker on America's forgotten foundation. As we lead 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 1: up to celebrating the fourth of July America's Independence, I 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: wanted to talk to David Barton about everything American independence. 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast. 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: Great to be with you, Tutor. Thank you. 10 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: I'm really excited about this because our girls have been 11 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: studying American history in school this year, and it's just 12 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: been so fun to watch them learn this through a 13 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: Christian lens, because they go to a Christian school, and 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: they've learned a lot about the true founding of the 15 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: country and the faith based founding of the country, which 16 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: I think is lost in a lot of schools. In fact, 17 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: I know some of our congressmen were talking about, or 18 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: I mean actually some of our local representatives here in Michigan, 19 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: we're talking about wanting to make sure people knew the 20 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: faith foundation of the country. And there's a lot of 21 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: people fighting back on that right now, just because it's 22 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: something that people don't like to acknowledge. But it is 23 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: really part of our history, isn't it. 24 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: I think it's not only part of our history. I 25 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 3: think it is probably the fundamental part of our history. 26 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 3: And this is fourth of July. But if I can 27 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 3: take George Washington, who was not part of the declaration whatever, 28 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: but in his final farewell address after forty five years, 29 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 3: he leaves the country. He's leaving public office, but it 30 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 3: gives about a dozen. 31 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: Warnings to Americans. 32 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 3: And his farewell address was so significant that you'll find 33 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 3: that in so many states it was required by state 34 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 3: law that you take a ridden exam on that farewell 35 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: address once a year for your first. 36 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: Eight years of school. I mean, this is a big deal. 37 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: And the longest section he has in that farewell address, 38 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 3: he talks about religion and morality. He calls him the 39 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: indispensafbul supports of political prosperity. He even went so far 40 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 3: as to say that he would not let anyone claim 41 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: the name patriot if they attempted to remove religion morality 42 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 3: from public life. So there's your epitome of a patriot. 43 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 3: He's the guy who led all the patriots. He's the 44 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 3: leader of all the military forces. 45 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: As guys. 46 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 3: I had patriots at Valley Forge, I had them throughout 47 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 3: the war. But I'm not going to let you call 48 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 3: yourself a patriot if you try to remove religion morality. 49 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 3: And that tells you how important it was to him 50 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: as commander in chief, and that's how important it should 51 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 3: be throughout history. And it was for the first century 52 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 3: and a half two centuries. Since about the nineteen sixties, 53 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 3: it's gone the other direction. We're told, oh, no, these 54 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 3: guys are a bunch of atheists agnostics in distin. 55 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: You know, it was a secular nation. That's what made 56 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 2: us great. Man. 57 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 3: When you go back to the actual original documents and 58 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 3: you study the stories of the people who actually signed 59 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 3: the declaration were there, you find it overwhelmingly they were 60 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 3: not only faith people, they were super strong faith people. 61 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 3: And that's part of the good story that's just gotten 62 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: away from us. 63 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: They were, And I think that people want that story 64 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: to get away from us because it's almost easier to 65 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: ignore the fact that there is a Christian foundation here 66 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: in the country. And if we look today at what's 67 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: going on, I mean, we've seen a lot of talk 68 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: of Satanism, I mean even in one of our local 69 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: counties here in Michigan, they've launched a I don't even 70 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: know what you call it a They call it a 71 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: church to Satan. I can't even use those words. So 72 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: we're seeing that, we're seeing that in a lot of 73 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: these new logos for Pride. We've seen a lot of 74 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: indications that, well, Satan loves you and Jesus. I saw 75 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: somebody wearing a shirt the other day that said not 76 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: today Jesus. Like the shirts that say not today Satan. 77 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: I mean, what would our founding fathers think of that? 78 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 3: That is such a sad part of who we are 79 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 3: and what's happened to us. In addition, let me kind 80 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 3: of throw some background out. We own one hundred and 81 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: sixty thousand islands for American history, thanks for Columbus all 82 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: the way through the Bible that landed on the moon 83 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 3: of the Paul fourteen. So within that framework, we have 84 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 3: thousands and thousands and thousands of the handwritten documents of 85 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 3: those who signed the Declaration, those who signed the Constitution, etc. 86 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: And their faith is so super strong and it's really 87 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 3: evident in their writings. But I also deal with a 88 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 3: lot of states and ask in a lot of states 89 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 3: to help with their history standards and their social studies 90 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: standards and reveal those standards, and so governor's, state legislators, etc. 91 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 3: And then on top of that, we've been involved in 92 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 3: thirteen cases of the US Supreme Court, most of which 93 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 3: deal with religious liberty in some way. We were in 94 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 3: one last year, we already in one again this year. 95 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 3: And what has happened is I look at it from 96 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 3: history standpoint. When I look at history standards, I usually 97 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 3: don't look necessarily at just what they say. I look 98 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 3: at what they don't say, because I've learned that when 99 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 3: you stop talking about something, and if you stop talking 100 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 3: about for twenty thirty years, you can introduce a completely 101 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 3: new narrative in the situation, and nobody knows to stop 102 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 3: it because they didn't know what it was. So if 103 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 3: I was to stop talking about Abraham Lincoln for thirty years, 104 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: we didn't do them at all. I could come back 105 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 3: thirty years from now, say, you know, Abraham Lincoln dropped 106 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: a nuclear weapon on Thailand in World War seventeen, and 107 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 3: nobody would know any different because they don't even know 108 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 3: whose dude is. And that's pretty much what's happened with 109 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 3: our faith. We have so much going on now with 110 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 3: faith because we think, well, it was a secular nation, 111 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 3: secular founding for others, so they weren't strong on Christianity, 112 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 3: and that's just not true. So when you look at 113 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 3: where we are now and again going back to the Court, 114 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 3: between nineteen seventy one and twenty nineteen, the Court issued 115 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 3: seventy three hundred rulings removing some type of religious expression 116 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 3: from public affairs. So we have so thoroughly and aggressively 117 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 3: secularized the nation. We've taken it away from where it 118 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 3: should be. And the good news is in the last 119 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 3: four years, we generally win a religious celebrity case at 120 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 3: the Supreme Court every five days years. In the last 121 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,119 Speaker 3: four years we won eleven cases in the Supreme Court, 122 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 3: and the Supreme Court has rolled back those seventy three 123 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 3: hundred bad decisions and say they were all wrongly decided, 124 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 3: and they're trying to move us back to the direction 125 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 3: it used to be. But now we have a very 126 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 3: secular minded nation and it's hard to move back toward 127 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 3: religious expressions. So we're fighting things like the Church of Satan, 128 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: as you mentioned, very hard thing to even say or acknowledge. 129 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: We're fighting all sorts of things that would never have 130 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: been churches in any reasonable period of time in American 131 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: history that are being recognized as such now, and that's 132 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 3: because we've taken our own history out. We've been trying 133 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 3: to commit suicide for a number of years and thankfully 134 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 3: if Lord hadn't let us do that, and hopefully we're 135 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 3: turning it around. But nonetheless, it's a really tough discussion 136 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 3: to have now, and that would never have been conceivable 137 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 3: in the founder's minds, not under anything that they plan, 138 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 3: designed or intended. And that's just you know, here we 139 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 3: are fighting in battle. We shouldn't have to fight, but 140 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 3: we're fighting it because we've lost our own knowledge of 141 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 3: who are a people. 142 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: We speak to a lot of political consultants regularly and 143 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: look out at what's on the horizon. And a few 144 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: months ago we had a few guys who were saying, 145 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: it's really interesting because Satanism is that what we're seeing. 146 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: It just keeps popping up. That's what the next thing 147 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: is that we'll be fighting because they're trying to they're 148 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: trying to see what the next culture war would be. 149 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: And as you know, there's been wars culture wars all 150 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: across the United States. When it comes to a lot 151 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: of these things like transgender in elementary schools, books that 152 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: pornography books and elementary schools, Satanism is like a whole 153 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: new level. I mean, I would have thought it would 154 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: have taken a while to get there, but it seems 155 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: like this has all gone pretty quickly from I would 156 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: say the beginning of Donald Trump's presidency to now. There's 157 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: been a massive push for some of this. I mean, 158 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: really evil evil toward our children. 159 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 3: There has been, and I hate to see that's been 160 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 3: in some ways, it's kind of self inflicted. And I 161 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 3: don't mean that in a bad sense. I mean that 162 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 3: in the sense that as we look at polling, and 163 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 3: we do a lot of polling work, we've seen that, 164 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 3: for example, those that profess Christianity have the percentage of 165 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 3: those who professor Christianity has dropped twenty points in the 166 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 3: last twenty years. So we've created a vacuum where that 167 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: we're taking more and more traditional faith out. We're removing that, 168 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 3: which leads to much open more open space for things 169 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 3: to come in to fill that. And we see that 170 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 3: particularly as we do polling with younger generations, they're more 171 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 3: and more secular minded. And then we saw polling even 172 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 3: last year with a seventy seven percent of professing Christians 173 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: self censor. They don't want to talk about their faith 174 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 3: for fear of being attacked because it's just unpopular with 175 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 3: academics and with so many mainstream kind of institutions, and 176 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 3: so having gone silent, you have a generation that's being 177 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 3: raised without much knowledge of faith at all, and they're 178 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 3: open for spiritual things. 179 00:08:59,040 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: That's for sure. 180 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 3: That in Poland and Satanism is something that is very appealing. 181 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 3: So we see a lot of young people particularly move 182 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 3: in that direction because there's almost like no free market competition. 183 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 3: The other side, we've kind of gone silent on this, 184 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 3: which is not a healthy thing for us to do. 185 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: And so I say this a lot. At the beginning 186 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: of my race for governor, I met one of the 187 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: first people I met with I simply in the conversation, 188 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: she was asking me, well, how did you make this decision? 189 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: And at one point in the conversation I said, my 190 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: husband and I prayed about it, and that was really 191 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: all I said that was faith based in the conversation. 192 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: And at the end when I was finished talking. She 193 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: looked at me and she said, you will never win 194 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: over the millennials if you speak like that. For my 195 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: best advice to you, and I can't support you because 196 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: of this, but my best advice to you is change 197 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: what you say about faith. And I said, what do 198 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: you mean and she said, you just sat in front 199 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: of me and said that your husband and you prayed 200 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: about this. And I said yeah. And she said, if 201 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: you talk about Christianity in front of this younger generation, 202 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: no one will vote for you. And I mean that 203 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: was kind of a consistent theme was as I went 204 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: across and these were these were conservatives, supposedly you know, 205 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: they were saying, shut your mouth, don't bring up religion. 206 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a growing rise Matra out there. But 207 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 3: we're actually finding that disproved by Poland. We've seen that 208 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 3: right now. The younger generation will respond to faith, but 209 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 3: it has to be on a one on one discussion 210 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 3: with people. They're the first generation one hundred and twenty 211 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 3: years of Poland that we've seen that's actually open to 212 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 3: mentoring and they don't care what generation is, as long 213 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 3: as you're sincere and we'll talk with them and we'll 214 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 3: sit down with them and spend time with them. They're 215 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: open to faith and they just need that one on 216 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:51,479 Speaker 3: one kind of relationship. 217 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: And so it. 218 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: Really so how do we do that? Because I feel 219 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: like that's I mean, that's another thing that we've been 220 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: talking about is as we've seen what's happened in election size, 221 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: and we've seen what's happened with conservatives, it seems like 222 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: that foundation has been lost over the years, in that 223 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: groundwork that is not political whatsoever. I would say that 224 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: that basis that should be a part of family life 225 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: has dwindled and deteriorated and in many cases is no 226 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: longer there. So and because you don't have it in schools, 227 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: I mean, they've fought very hard to make sure that 228 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: you're being tested on reading, in math. History in some 229 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: cases doesn't even exist in some public schools, and if 230 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: it does, it's very high level, breezing through things. So 231 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: how if they don't have that history, if they aren't 232 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: getting that at home? I mean, the other side has 233 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: been very good at keeping that faith story away from 234 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: people in the United States. So if they don't have that, 235 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: how do we start to win back this war? How 236 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: do we start to reach out to people because I know, 237 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: I mean, we've got a lot of listeners out there 238 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: and they're saying, how did this happen? But really you 239 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: are making a good point. It had happened with us 240 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: who said, I don't want to the boat, so I'm 241 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: not going to say anything. 242 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 3: We've gone silent on it. And I see this very 243 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 3: much as self inflicted wound. But I'm also seeing across 244 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 3: the country where this is changing, and it's changing even. 245 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 2: In faith communities. 246 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 3: There's a particular church I'm thinking of in Texas about 247 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 3: twenty five thousand, and they are largely gen Z and 248 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 3: millennial and they are not squishy at all. They're very strong, 249 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 3: but they there's been people take the time to explain 250 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 3: and get the apologetics of faith, and I think a 251 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 3: lot of times we've not taken the time to actually 252 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 3: been sincere about it. We have more sound bites on faith, 253 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 3: and we have more sound bites on Christ or whatever, 254 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 3: and there's some more serious discussions. And this is an 255 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 3: interesting thing that we've seen in particularly with the gen Z, 256 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 3: some with the millennials, but they want more than sound bites. 257 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: They react to sound bites. 258 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 3: We see that unfortunately politically, other things but if you 259 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 3: get pass sound bites, they really respond well. And so 260 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 3: we're seeing that there's starting to be some churches that 261 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 3: are taking that on, a lot ofdividuals are taking that on. 262 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 3: We're seeing a lot of faith groups really kind of 263 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 3: increase now that are focused on youth and. 264 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 2: Doing some good thing. 265 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 3: But we've gotten ourselves really behind the curve on this 266 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 3: and we're fighting an uphill battle. And I think the 267 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 3: other thing, and you mentioned schools, we're not teaching it. 268 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 3: One of the things we deal with, Tutor. We have 269 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 3: a network of about one thousand state legislators, So we 270 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 3: have legislators we deal with all fifty states on state legislation, 271 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 3: everything from ESG to UCC to faith issues, etc. And 272 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 3: I'm struck by the fact that, for example, Minnesota last 273 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 3: year passed their new history standards and from the next 274 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: ten years in Minnesota they have said they will not 275 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 3: teach the American Revolution, or the Civil War, or World 276 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 3: War One, or World War two, or the Holocaust. They've 277 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 3: said that that has to go out of all of 278 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 3: their texts and all their curriculum for the next ten years. 279 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 3: So we deliberately are cutting people off from heritage and history, 280 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 3: which means individuals have to take more responsibil to step up. 281 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 3: But we're also seeing a lot of good things start 282 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 3: to happen media wise with some of the programs that 283 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 3: are popping up. 284 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 2: They're doing really well in history. 285 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 3: So I think we're kind of behind the curve, but 286 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 3: I do see really good. 287 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 2: Things happening, but it's going to take every single individual. 288 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 3: I go back to song Asslmon eight thirteen, where the 289 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 3: scripture says, people listen to you so speak. We just 290 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 3: got to test with people on our own networks. And 291 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 3: the thing I'd point to is, look how well we're 292 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 3: doing winning school boards at local elections where you get 293 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 3: just in the community. Those aren't nationally publicized. We're cleaning 294 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 3: house across the nation in a great way with school boards. 295 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 3: Nobody knows about it, but we're really seeing good things. 296 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 3: And that's the same way we'll get those kids back, 297 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 3: as we have to do a community by community. Just 298 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 3: forget the national status, just work on those that are 299 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 3: around you and dedicate yourself to really making a difference, 300 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 3: and you can. 301 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 302 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: a Tutor Dixon podcast. Well, I got us off track 303 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: from fourth of July. So, but I think that was 304 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: kind of an important lead up to the story of 305 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: the Fourth because I don't think that a lot of 306 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: people understand that this wasn't just a bunch of guys 307 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: that got into a room one day and said, let's 308 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: sign this declaration of Independence and move on. I'm fortunate 309 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: that my daughter, my daughter was in eighth grade last 310 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: year and we just went on the DC trip and 311 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: then we went through all of the history and they 312 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: got to see but they also went to Gettysburg and 313 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: saw where the Civil War was fought, and so they 314 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: saw what it was to fight there, but they didn't 315 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: hear a whole lot about the very beginnings. So I 316 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: think that's something that we know when we see some 317 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: of these when you go to some of these old 318 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: sites of war, and you go, gosh, can you imagine 319 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: now our eighteen year old And often when they tell 320 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: you these stories, it's like, well, some of these kids 321 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: were sixteen, some of these kids were thirteen, and it's 322 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: just shocking to think that they were willing to do 323 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: anything for freedom. And there was a reason because they 324 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: understood what tyranny was. And so there's a lot of 325 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: faith that goes into deciding to form your own country 326 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: and declare your independence. So if you could just walk 327 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: us through a little bit about how did that start. 328 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: How do you bring all these people together that really 329 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: they had ownership over their states and it was a 330 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: coming together of people and minds to decide how the 331 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: best possible government could be formed. 332 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is such a cool thing to look back 333 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 3: at that, And I think one of the great examples 334 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 3: of seeing how this worked was old man John Adams. 335 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 3: Forty two years after he signed the Declaration of Independence, 336 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 3: a young man came to him said, I'm writing a 337 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 3: history book on the United States. I wasn't there. I 338 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 3: love what America has become. We all love the liberties 339 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 3: we have, but you were there. Tell me how this happened. 340 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 3: And he asked him, He said, where did you get 341 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 3: your ideas? Because these are ideas that weren't in other 342 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 3: countries at the time. And it's striking that John Adams 343 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 3: himself said that, well, we got these ideas from the 344 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 3: reverend doctor Samuel Cooper, the reverend doctor Jonathan Mayhew, the 345 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 3: Reverend George Whitfield, the Reverend Charles He starts listing all 346 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 3: these pastors and with those hundred and sixty thousand documents 347 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 3: we have, we have so many sermons from that founding era, 348 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 3: but it is striking to see how faith was so 349 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 3: intimately involved. Even as you look at the early stages 350 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 3: as we lead up to the American independence. You know, 351 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 3: the first battle is Lexington, the second battle's Concord, The 352 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 3: third battles Road to Boston. The fourth battles Bunker Hill. 353 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 3: And the Battle of Lexington was when the Reverend Jonas 354 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 3: Clark took sixty seventy three guys out of his church 355 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 3: and went out and faced the seven hundred British. The 356 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 3: second battle was when Reverend William Emerson took four hundred 357 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 3: guys out of his church and went out and faced 358 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 3: the British. The third battle, the Road to Boston, was 359 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 3: forty five hundred Americans facing seven hundred British. But the 360 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 3: Americans were led by the Reverend Benjamin Boss and the 361 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 3: Reverend Paston Phillips. And when you get to Bunker Hills, 362 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 3: Reverend Joseph Willard who grabbed two companies out of his 363 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 3: church and said, okay, guys, let's go join the other 364 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 3: churches across town. We're finding for our freedom. So there's 365 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 3: a very strong on faith element all the way through. 366 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 3: But I think that a lot of what we missed 367 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 3: today the way we teach history today, it's no longer biographical. 368 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 3: We used to teach the stories about history, and as 369 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 3: you look in the Bible, you know, nobody knows what 370 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 3: your David killed Goliath because the date wasn't important. Was 371 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 3: important was the story. You got the story of David 372 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 3: and Goliath. And that's really kind of what we've moved 373 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 3: away from an American history since progressives took it in 374 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 3: the nineteen twenties. 375 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 2: We've gotten into. 376 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 3: Dates, names, and places, and we don't no longer tell 377 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 3: the stories. Who knows the story of an eight year 378 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 3: old John Quincy Adams grabbing his musket and going out 379 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 3: with the Massachusetts minute Men in the early stages of 380 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 3: the war. You know, nobody knows about an eight year 381 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 3: old kid doing that. And those are the stories that 382 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 3: are so cool and so much a part of what happens. 383 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 3: Even the fifty six guys who signed the declaration, I 384 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 3: was a Duke University law school and put that picture 385 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 3: that side ours up. I said, who can you call 386 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 3: by name? And they could only get two guys by 387 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 3: name out of fifty six, and they all have phenomenal stories, 388 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 3: and we just have to reacquaint ourselves with how blessed 389 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 3: we've been as a nation, how terrific our history is, 390 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 3: who these great heroes were, and the fourth of July 391 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 3: is we a really. 392 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 2: Good time to do that. 393 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 3: Go back and look at them. Look up three guys 394 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 3: you've never heard of to sign the declaration. Read their stories, 395 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 3: Read about their family, read about their faith, read about 396 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 3: their sacrifice. 397 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 2: You know, ten of. 398 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 3: These guys who signed the declaration never lived to see 399 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 3: the freedom they wanted us to have. Seventeen of them 400 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 3: lost everything they own, three have lost their kids. It's 401 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 3: tragic stories and it's victorious stories, but their stories. And 402 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 3: I think that's what we really have to get back to, 403 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 3: is storytelling. 404 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: Well. In George Washington's story alone, I think a lot 405 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: of people think of the President of the United States 406 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: like they think of the President of the United States now, 407 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: But this was really I mean, he sacrificed, he left 408 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: his home for I think what he didn't see his 409 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: wife for eight years when they were at war, and 410 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: then comes home and they said, well, we need you 411 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: to serve again, and we need you to go to 412 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 1: be the and he was the one that said, I'm 413 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: not going to do it forever. We don't. Well, they 414 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: wanted him to be a king, didn't they They would. 415 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 2: Have taken him as a king. 416 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 3: And he was going to retire after one term and 417 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 3: we were looking at a war with France, and so 418 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 3: he stayed on for one more term, but he retired. 419 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 2: After two and he set the example. 420 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 3: And that was a voluntary example that was followed by 421 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 3: every president until FDR with World War Two. And then 422 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 3: FDR's vice president, Harry Truman is the guy who got 423 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 3: the Constitutional Amendment passed to say, hey, Washington didn't too, 424 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 3: we should all do it in too or no more. 425 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 3: And so Washington really set that example. And it's interesting 426 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 3: that he is literally considered the father of his country 427 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,719 Speaker 3: even while he was still alive. I mean, he's the 428 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 3: only president to be chosen one hundred percent unanimously, not 429 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 3: a single dissenting vote in the electoral College in either 430 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 3: of his two elections. He really was esteemed in his day. 431 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 3: I calculated recently that was George Washington. More than forty 432 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 3: percent of the nations across the world have erected some 433 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 3: type of a memorial to George Washington. And to try 434 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 3: to find any leader from another nation that's honored in 435 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 3: a nation that's not their own, that's just pretty unusual. 436 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 3: And Washington was one of those guys that was a 437 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 3: global influence and he was loved by Americans. And man 438 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 3: did he sacrificed. As you mentioned, you know, he kept 439 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 3: going back in when he wanted to retire, he wanted 440 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 3: to go back to Mount Vernon, and he did this 441 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 3: at his own expense. He actually late in life asked 442 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 3: Congress reimburs hing for some of these expenses, but he 443 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 3: did most of this out of his own pocket. And 444 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 3: we know that during the eight years of the revolution 445 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 3: he wrote so many letters that is estimated he got 446 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 3: no more than three to four hours of sleep a night, 447 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 3: and all the communications he was doing, all the work 448 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 3: he was doing. He just sacrificed everything for his country. 449 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 3: And he was just a great, great leader to start with. 450 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 3: And you can't have a better example on what we 451 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 3: have with George Washington. 452 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 453 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon podcast. What's interesting, I think is when 454 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 1: you go to the capital, the dome is painted and 455 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: George Washington is up there, and he appears to be 456 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 1: almost saintly up there in the dome of the Capitol. 457 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: And when they're talking to you about it, they say, 458 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: it's funny because he probably wouldn't like that image of himself. 459 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. He was a very, very humble guy. 460 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 3: It's interesting that after his part in the French and 461 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 3: Indian War, and he came back and was elected to 462 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 3: the state legislature and he was ready to get down 463 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 3: the business. They opened the legislature with a commendation form 464 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 3: for all he had done in the leadership, and he 465 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 3: was so floored he couldn't even speak. And the speaker 466 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 3: the US said, well, mister Washington, He said, your valor 467 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 3: is matched only by your modesty. And that's the way 468 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 3: Washington was. He didn't talk about himself. He didn't like 469 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 3: getting acclaim, he didn't like being recognized. He finally understood 470 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 3: late in life that people thought highly of him and 471 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 3: blessed his heart and Mount Vernon, because back in that 472 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 3: day you believe in hospitality. He entertained anyone that came 473 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 3: to his house. And there are times when forty fifty 474 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 3: different strangers show up out of different States just to 475 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 3: say they could spend the night at George Washington's house, 476 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 3: and the latter part of his life, he was so accommodating, 477 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 3: so hospitable, and it would drive us crazy. He'd have 478 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 3: to deal with what he dealt with. But he was 479 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 3: just that kind of a deep character individual, very pious man, 480 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 3: very very astute man in so many areas, and he's 481 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 3: just a great great What I want to say, he's 482 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 3: a great model. That's what I want to say. He's 483 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 3: a great model for us. And it's just unfortunate that 484 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 3: we don't know that much about him today. He's just 485 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 3: again gotten away from us. We just don't teach Washington much, 486 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 3: and when we do, we kind of oversimplify him. But 487 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 3: he's a great biography people should read. 488 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: Why is it that we don't do more when we 489 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: talk about these folks? I mean, they really he did. 490 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 1: He gave everything, but it was really about the future. 491 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: It was about taking care of future generations, because I 492 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: think that he must have known that this was not 493 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: going to really be his life for very long. This 494 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: was going to be other people's lives. This was setting 495 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: a standard for eternity or however long we have here 496 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: on earth and then obviously his faith was very important. 497 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: But you're right, he is a model, so why and 498 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: so many of these men are models of how to 499 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: create greatness, as much greatness as we can see in 500 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 1: this world, and yet we avoid talking about that with 501 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: our students, with our young people. It's the ultimate opportunity 502 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: and it is the ultimate sacrifice so that others can have. 503 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you would think that this would be the 504 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: best story you can tell because he gave up everything 505 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: for others. It was not for him. 506 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 3: It was not for him, and it was that way 507 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 3: with so many of them. And it's interesting that, you know, 508 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 3: so we kind of look at history from a thirty 509 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 3: thousand t of view because we connected the culture and 510 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 3: legislation and everything else. We have had a steady attack 511 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 3: on the American founding for forty to fifty years, and 512 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 3: so you know, these guys are all a bunch of 513 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 3: slave owners. Wait a minute, time out. We passed by 514 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 3: eighteen o four every northern state had banned slavery. That's 515 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 3: the founding fathers from those states had banned slavery. The 516 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 3: first abolition society started in America was started by signer 517 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 3: of the Declaration Benjamin Russia. It was led by a 518 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 3: signer of the Declaration, Ben Franklin. And you know, we 519 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 3: just go through and yes, they're were some pro slavery 520 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 3: founding fathers, but the overwhelming majority were not. And they 521 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 3: talked about how this slavery had been posed on them 522 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 3: by Great Britain. In the Declaration of Independence. One of 523 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 3: the grievances talked about the fact that several of our 524 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 3: colonies have already passed anti slavery laws seventeen seventy six, 525 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 3: and King George the Third vetoed our anti slavery laws 526 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 3: in Connecticut and the Massachusetts and in Rhode Island and 527 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 3: all these other states. 528 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 2: And we don't do that. 529 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 3: We say, oh, no, they're all a bunch of a 530 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 3: bunch of racist they're all a bunch of slaves. 531 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: Oh they're all a bunch of atheists and agnostics and deists. 532 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: Wait a minute. 533 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 3: Twenty nine of the signers and declaration graduated from Bible 534 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 3: schools and seminaries. How can they all be atheists, agnostics 535 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 3: and DEAs. And you know, the first, the first Family 536 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 3: Bible ever done was by a signer of the Declaration, 537 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 3: John Witherspoon, And the first mass produced Bible ever done 538 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 3: was by signer of the Declaration, Benjamin Rush. Benjamin Rush 539 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 3: started the first Bible society in America, the Sunday School Movement, 540 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 3: and you just go through their faith. And so what's 541 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 3: happened is because we know so little of the details, 542 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 3: we have been fed a lot of overview, you know, 543 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 3: Washington or any of the Founding fathers, or they were 544 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 3: all a bunch of immoral or whatever, and we don't 545 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 3: have the specificity. So that's that's where going back to 546 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 3: the stories really becomes very very interesting, very intriguing the 547 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 3: story of Washington and what I recommend for folks because 548 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 3: we can now with books dot Google dot com, all 549 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 3: the public domain books are in our online and you 550 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,479 Speaker 3: can search all those public domain books. So you know, 551 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 3: find a founding father that dies like a Benjamin Rush 552 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 3: in eighteen thirteen, looking eighteen fourteen for the biographies that 553 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 3: were done about him, because that's by people who knew them, 554 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 3: people who are around him. When Washington dies in seventeen 555 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 3: ninety nine, lived for biographies done in eighteen hundred, because 556 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 3: the people who wrote them were the people who knew 557 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 3: them and who worked with them and who fought with 558 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 3: them etc. And you know John Quincy, Adams great President, 559 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 3: dies in eighteen forty eight. Read the biography's written in 560 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 3: eighteen forty nine by the mayor of Boston, Josiah Quincy, 561 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 3: and by Seward, who is a great investador. It's just 562 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 3: such a different view of history from what we get 563 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 3: today because they didn't have agendas back then. They weren't 564 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 3: trying to create a new nation. They weren't trying to 565 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 3: make it secular or make it crt or whatever it is. 566 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: And so they were or teach the sixteen nineteen projects. 567 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 3: Sixteen nineteen And by the way, man, is that crazy? 568 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 3: Sixteen nineteen, that's not when slavery came to Virginia. The 569 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 3: first first slavery in Virginia was sixteen fifty three when 570 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 3: a black man, Anthony Johnson, sued own another black man, 571 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 3: John Kaser in the court said he could do it. 572 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 3: Sixteen fifty three is when slavery begins Virginia with a 573 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 3: black man suing to own another black man. Haven't heard that, 574 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 3: but say that's where sixteen nineteen project just gives you 575 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 3: a narrative and doesn't give you details. And when you 576 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 3: go back to historical details, the story is so different. 577 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 3: And so that's what every American can do, is, you know, 578 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 3: dedicate myself to find the truth. It is out there. 579 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 3: It's not that hard to find. I'm not going to 580 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 3: follow the narratives until I've proven it for myself. Go 581 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 3: back and verify everything, and that'll give you a whole 582 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 3: different view of America, which is really wholesome, really really enlightening. 583 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: Quite frankly, I think as parents it's so powerful. That's 584 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: such a good piece of advice to do that with 585 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: your kids. Because when we came back from the trip 586 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: to Washington, d C. You always wonder what did they 587 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: get out of it? Did they really get enough out 588 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: of it? And one of the moms said to I 589 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: was chaperoning, and she said, thank you so much. My 590 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: son came up to me and he said, Mom, you 591 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: would never believe what these young men did to make 592 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,239 Speaker 1: sure that we could have the life we have. And 593 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: I mean that to me as it brings a tear 594 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: to my I'm like, oh my gosh, they got it. 595 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: They got to see it, they actually saw it and 596 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: lived it, and they learned it. But there's so much. 597 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: I mean, they still learned the overview. It was still 598 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: you know, we're still rushing through in three days, so 599 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: there's still so much to teach our kids. And if 600 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: you feel like your kids are being robbed at school, 601 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: whether it's a public school or private school, you just 602 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: don't think they're getting enough. This is great information. Do 603 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: it yourself. And I know everybody goes gosh, that's so 604 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: time consuming, but there's no better time spent than teaching 605 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: your kids the value of appreciating what you have and 606 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: passing that on. And I think that's the biggest thing 607 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: here is to appreciate because right now there's so many 608 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: people telling our kids don't appreciate this, feel shame, feel 609 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: shame for what this country is. And I think that 610 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: is the message going into the fourth of July. This 611 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: is a we are fortunate to have this country, or 612 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: we are fortunate to have these men who stood up 613 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: when no one else would. We could very easily just 614 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: be colonies right now. And we are a very special 615 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,959 Speaker 1: place in the world because of what these founding fathers 616 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: were willing to do and sacrifice for us. 617 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 2: You know, it's significant. I think the Americans, perhaps more than. 618 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 3: Any other nation, we take our blessings for granted because 619 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 3: we've had them for so long. There's fifty hundred years 620 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 3: of recorded history. In that period of time, there's been 621 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 3: thousands of nations, hundreds of constitutions. Cornell University Law School said, 622 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 3: what's the average length of a constitution in the history 623 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 3: of the world in the answer of seventeen years. Well, 624 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 3: last September seventeenth, we celebrated two hundred and thirty five years. 625 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 3: We just take our stability for granted. We just assume 626 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 3: that's the way nations are and it's not. And our 627 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 3: four percent of the world's population we produce literally ninety 628 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 3: six percent of the world's inventions. Our four percent of 629 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 3: the world's population, we produced twenty five percent of the 630 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 3: world's gross domestic product. We are so stink and blessed, 631 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 3: and we just don't recognize it because we hear people 632 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 3: criticize in the country all the time, and they don't 633 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 3: point out the good. They point out the bad and 634 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 3: the ugly. And that's deconstruction that really started the nineteen 635 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 3: eighties and history books with Howard Zenn and others. You're 636 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 3: supposed to tell the good, the bad, the ugly. The 637 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 3: Bible does that, but we're not telling the We're just 638 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 3: telling the bad and the ugly, and you know, Fourth 639 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 3: of July, this is a real patriotic time, and I 640 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 3: love patriotism. Benjamin Rush, he's a signer of the Declaration. 641 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 3: John Adams said, he's one of the three most notable 642 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 3: founding fathers. John Adams said, it's George Washington, Ben Franklin, 643 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 3: Benjamin Rush, and who knows Benjamin Rush today. But Benjamin 644 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 3: Rush says that a love of your country is both 645 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 3: a social and a religious duty. And it goes back 646 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 3: to if you love something, your family, or whatever it is, 647 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 3: you're going to seek the best for it. You're going 648 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 3: to sacrifice for it. You're going to do every thing 649 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 3: you can to make sure that it's really good. And 650 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 3: the polling we got from two weeks ago shows that 651 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 3: right now, seventy three percent of the older generation's patriotic, 652 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 3: only sixteen percent of the younger generations patriotic. We have 653 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 3: not taught them to love their country. We've taught them 654 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 3: to hate it. And there is no future for the 655 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 3: country if you don't love it, because you'll want to 656 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 3: get rid of it, you'll want something different because it's 657 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 3: not fundamentally good. And so this Fourth of July is 658 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 3: a really good time to go back and teach patriotism. 659 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 3: Why it's proper to love America, what there is about America, 660 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 3: to love the wonderful things that have happened. No nation 661 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 3: in the world. And this slavery passed a band on 662 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 3: the slave trade faster than America did. I mean, it's 663 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,959 Speaker 3: just amazing the things. Here's a good one for CRT folks. 664 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 3: America elected his first black official in sixteen forty one, 665 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 3: Matthias the Seuzd was elected to the Legislature of Maryland 666 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 3: by white community. We had more than a thousand black 667 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 3: officials elected in America by eighteen seventy six. Great Britain 668 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 3: did not elect its first black official till nineteen eighty seven. 669 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 3: Russia did not elect its first black official until twenty ten. 670 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 3: And we have one thousand by eighteen seventy six. And 671 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 3: somehow we're the worst nation in the world. We need 672 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 3: to go back and recover the good things and know that. 673 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 3: Let's study the bad and ugly, absolutely that's truth, but 674 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 3: let's study the good too. And fourth of July is 675 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 3: going to be a good time to rekindle patriotism. Go 676 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 3: back and look at the wonderful things our two hundred 677 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 3: and thirty seven years under the same document, two hundred 678 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 3: and thirty five are in the same document two hundred and 679 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 3: forty seven under the Declaration of Independence, And these are 680 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 3: big things that we should look at and be grateful for. 681 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: Well, who knew we were going to get homework on 682 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: the fourth of July. But I think this is fantastic 683 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: because that poll you just put out there that you 684 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: said something like seventy percent in the older generation is 685 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: patriotic and only sixteen in the younger That means those 686 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: of us in that older generation need to be doing 687 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: our work with the younger generation, and this is our opportunity. 688 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: I love your idea about finding biographies that were written 689 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: just a year or two after these folks died and 690 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: knowing what it was really like then hearing from the 691 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: people that really knew them. I love that. I think 692 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: that's a great send off for our listeners today, is 693 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: to go out there and find those and share the 694 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: good stories from history. Talk about all of history, but 695 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: make sure people know why we are the greatest country 696 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: in the world and how it happened. Before I let 697 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: you go, David, quickly tell them a little bit about 698 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: Wall builders wall builders and how they can learn more 699 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: about it, because I just think what you guys do 700 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: is so amazing, the history, the pieces of history that 701 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 1: you own it and over one hundred thousand pieces, yes, ma'am. 702 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 2: And it's fun going back to the originals. For sure. 703 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 3: Wall builders dot Com we take the name of wall 704 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 3: builders from the Bible book of NEAMAI about rebuilding things 705 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 3: that have been torn down, so rebuilding the walls, rusal and 706 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 3: back on that story, rebuilding America's constitutional and more religious foundations. 707 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 3: It's kind of our hope, our wish, and so we 708 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 3: produced a lot of products, a lot of visual things, 709 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 3: a lot of written things. We just did a book, 710 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 3: the American Story that goes from Columbus up through the 711 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 3: end of slavery, and it looks at heroes and the 712 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 3: good things and the bad and ugly about America. But 713 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 3: we've got lots of resources the website. We have thousands 714 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 3: of those original documents up where people can see them, 715 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 3: can access them, can use them in their schools or 716 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 3: wherever they go. So we try to provide resources we 717 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 3: hope to have before long all one hundred and sixty 718 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 3: thousand pieces of that history of where the people can 719 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 3: see for themselves what America actually is and what America 720 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 3: actually did. But wellbuilders dot com is a good place 721 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 3: to go for a lot of resources, and The American 722 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 3: Story is a good book to start with. 723 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,720 Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much. I just I love hearing 724 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: what you have to say. I always learn something when 725 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: I'm talking to you, David Barton. We appreciate having you on. 726 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 2: Thanks Tudor, appreciate all you do. God bless you, ma'am. 727 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: Thank you, God bless you, and thank you all for 728 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: joining us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. As always for 729 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: this episode and others, go to tutordisonpodcast dot com. You 730 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: can subscribe right there, or check out the iHeartRadio app, 731 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts, and make 732 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 1: sure you join us the next time on the Tutor 733 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 1: Dixon Podcast. Have a blessed day and happy fourth of July.