1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to Tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host, 3 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: Jothan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio 4 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: and I love all things tech. And before we get started, 5 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: I wanted to say I hope that all of you 6 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: are all safe and well and that your loved ones 7 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: are as well. Here in the United States, we've seen 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: Hurricane Ida cause enormous damage along the coast of Louisiana. 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: Large parts of that region are without power. There are 10 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: emergency situations all over there. If any of y'all are 11 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: out that way, please stay safe and take care of 12 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: yourselves and of each other. And really that goes out 13 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: to everyone. A little kindness goes a long way. But yes, 14 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: I'm I'm definitely thinking of all of you out there, 15 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: hoping that you're staying safe. All right, let's get to 16 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: the tech news for Tuesday, August thirty one, twenty one. 17 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: Here in America, there's a brewing battle between the US 18 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: government and companies like Apple and Google over whether or 19 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: not requiring app developers to use the Apple and Google 20 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: in app purchasing systems for all in app purchases is 21 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: anti competitive. Now, this gets a little muddled, so we're 22 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: going to use an example to kind of clear things up. 23 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: So let's say that you are a developer, an app developer, 24 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: and you create a SimCity like game, and in that game, 25 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: players can you know, zone and build out virtual cities. 26 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 1: And in this game, maybe you've built some in app purchases, 27 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: and that way players can pay to access say certain 28 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: types of resources or types of buildings, or they might 29 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: be able to speed up construction or otherwise take you know, 30 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: shortcuts in the game, which without these shortcuts would take 31 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: a really long time to play out. Well, right now, 32 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: both Google and Apple take a cut that's anywhere between 33 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: fifteen tot of all in app purchases for stuff like 34 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: that is if it's a smaller developer, is if they 35 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: are you know, considered to be a larger developer, and 36 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: you have no other option but to go that route, Like, 37 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: you have to play by those rules because both Apple 38 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: and Google say that trying to work around that means 39 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: your app will not be allowed in those app stores. Also, 40 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: this is different if your app is used to purchase 41 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: real stuff out in the real world. So for example, 42 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: let's say you run a taco restaurant and you develop 43 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: an app so people can order tacos to pick up 44 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: at your store. They just use the app, they say 45 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: what they want, it goes to you, They pay for 46 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: it and everything. They just come in and pick it 47 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: up and go. Well, Apple and Google don't take a 48 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: cut of those kinds of purchases. It's only for things 49 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: that are in app. Also, I would like some of 50 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: your finest tacos. I don't know why you've been holding 51 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: out on me for so long. Anyway, here in the 52 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: United States, government offices and congress people are beginning to 53 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: push back on this practice, saying it is any competitive 54 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: and it traps developers and systems that they have no 55 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: control over. While that's playing out here over in South Korea, 56 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: things have taken a more drastic turn. The South Korean 57 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: government passed a bill that now bands Apple and Google 58 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: from forcing developers to use this kind of in app 59 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: purchasing system. They can use it if they want to, 60 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: but they're not forced to according to this new band. 61 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: So now companies like Epic Games, which makes the game Fortnite, 62 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: could do the thing that got Epic in hot water 63 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: with Apple in the first place, and that was that 64 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: Epic gave players a way to buy in game Fortnite 65 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: currency without going through Apple's in app purchase system. Also, 66 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: while it doesn't get much coverage, Google was equally miffed 67 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: at Epic for the exact same reason. It will be 68 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: interesting to see how Apple and Google respond to this. 69 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: According to CNBC, the Apple App Store grows more than 70 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: sixty four billion dollars in twenty twenty, a princely some now. 71 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: Keep in mind, that's what the app store brought in. 72 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: Not all of that money actually is going to Apple. 73 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: Apple gets a chunk of it, but a lot of 74 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: that money is also going to various developers. However, it 75 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: still represents a major source of revenue for Apple. Also, 76 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: Apple doesn't actually report on how much the app store 77 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: makes in particular in its quarterly earnings reports. Instead, the 78 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: company lumps that into a category called Apple Services, and 79 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: that includes other stuff as well. But however you slice it, 80 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: the app store is one of the contributing factors to 81 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: Apple's colossal success as a modern tech company. I should 82 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: add that the company also sees a lot of revenue 83 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: from its physical products like iPhone and mac computers, so 84 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: it's not like Apple's just turning into an app store, 85 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: kind of like how a lot of people point to 86 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: Valve and say Valve very rarely makes any games these days. 87 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: Now it's more of an online game store. If other 88 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: countries follow South Korea's lead, Apple and Google could see 89 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: important revenue streams diminish as a result. And now for 90 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: a curious story about Apple that shows how serious the 91 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: law he is is. Here in the United States, So 92 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: more than a decade ago, Apple was in a long, 93 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: ugly legal battle with the telecommunications company Nokia, the Finnish company. 94 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: Nokia was at the time the largest worldwide smartphone and 95 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: mobile phone manufacturer, and at the heart of the legal 96 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: battle were a series of patent disputes, and each company 97 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: was claiming that the other company had violated one or 98 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: more patents that they they held. So Nokia saying hey 99 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: you violated X, Y and Z, and Apple saying hey 100 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: you violate A, B and C. And it all was 101 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: going into all these different court cases. Now it recently 102 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: came to light that in one of these court cases, 103 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: and this case happened way back in two thousand eleven, 104 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: the judge who was presiding over the case turned out 105 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: to actually have held some stock in Apple. I don't 106 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: know how much stock the judge held that has not 107 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: yet been reported as of the recording of this podcast, 108 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 1: but it was at least some stock. Typically, in cases 109 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: like this, if a court judge has a conflict of interest, 110 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: they are required to recuse themselves from the case. They 111 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: cannot over see the case because clearly they might otherwise 112 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: find their judgments swayed by their own personal, you know, 113 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: financial interest in one of the parties involved in the case. 114 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 1: This judge did not recuse himself. Now it sounds to 115 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: be like the judge might have held Apple stock and 116 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: perhaps just forgotten about it. That could be the case 117 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: if the judge had a pretty wide stock portfolio, right like, 118 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: the judge might not have been aware of it. Moreover, 119 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: in that particular case, the end result actually favored Nokia 120 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: more than it favored Apple. So even if the judge 121 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: had been aware of the stock, I mean, he should 122 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: have disclosed that, but it didn't seem to impact his 123 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: decision upon the case. However, rules are rules, and these 124 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: rules state that if a judge discovers a conflict of interest, 125 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: then that judge is required to report on it, even 126 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: if the case happened a decade ago or longer. So 127 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: on August, this particular judge filed a letter revealing the conflict, 128 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: and now both Apple and Nokia have the opportunity to 129 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: respond to this revelation by October. But here's some other 130 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: interesting things to consider. Nokia's smartphone and cell phone business 131 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: entered into a state of decline not long after these lawsuits, 132 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: and Samsung overtook Nokia to become the the global leader 133 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: in smartphone and mobile phone manufacturing UH, and of course, 134 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: Apple has grown in popularity year over year. Eventually, Microsoft 135 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: swooped in and purchased Nokia's mobile phone divis Vision and 136 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: had it for itself, and so these days Nokia doesn't 137 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: even have its own mobile phone division. It's got a 138 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: couple that are related to Nokia, but not like its 139 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: own in house mobile phone manufacturing department. So Microsoft would 140 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: then go on to sell off the Nokia assets after 141 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: it became clear that Microsoft's own mobile phone efforts were 142 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: flailing against Android and iPhone handsets. Fox con took ownership 143 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: of those assets. At that point. The Nokia brand, which 144 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: did not go along with this whole Microsoft Fox Cotton 145 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: transaction UH, is actually licensed to another company called hm 146 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: D Global. So Nokia is not Nokia anymore. It's a 147 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: it's a brand name that's held by a different company, 148 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: and Nokia doesn't really have a a financial stake in 149 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: him D Global. So while this disclosure is interesting, it 150 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: sounds to me like there's not really going to be 151 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: any big brew haha to come out of it, because 152 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: that's kind of all water under the bridge at this point. 153 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if anyone would hold any specific objections 154 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: at this stage, and as far as I know, the 155 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: judge doesn't stand to face any um, you know, any 156 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: any punishment for this. Uh. Like I said to me, 157 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: it sounds like it came out of an oversight as 158 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: opposed to a purposeful uh you know, obfuscation of a 159 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: conflict of interest. Next, any of y'all who have listened 160 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: to my show for years will know that I have 161 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: had conflicting feelings when it comes to stuff like autonomous 162 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: cars and smart infrastructure. I was really hot on it 163 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: for a while. Then I became a little more hesitant. Uh, 164 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: not like resistant to it, but more more like someone 165 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: who went in bright eyed and bushytailed and then thought, oh, 166 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: the reality of this is different. For um the ideal. Now, 167 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: on the one hand, if you assume everything works properly, 168 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: technologies like autonomous cars and smart city infrastructure would drastically 169 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: reduce the number of accidents that happened on the road, 170 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: and that also means a big reduction in injuries and fatalities. 171 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: That would be incredible. And then of secondary importance, it 172 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: could also reduce traffic congestions, so folks would spend less 173 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: time sitting in a car in order to get to 174 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: where they're going, and that also means fewer carbon emissions. 175 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: And obviously we're moving more toward electric vehicles, but that's 176 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: going to take some time. So the benefits of this 177 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: technology are really you know, they're enticing, they they're compelling. However, 178 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: I did say, we have to assume everything's working properly, 179 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: and that's where we are hit. You know, a really 180 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: big sticking point. We're seeing that play out in the 181 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: UK country that has deployed digital signs across hundreds of 182 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: miles of roads that connect to a software platform and 183 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: the signs are meant to display stuff like need limits 184 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: or information about lane closures and that kind of thing. 185 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: It's part of the UK's smart Motorways initiative. Unfortunately, this 186 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: past April that system crashed three times, the system that 187 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: would send information to these digital signs across hundreds of 188 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: miles of road, and that left the signs stuck in 189 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: whatever their last message was, even if conditions were changing. 190 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: So staff working for this department in the UK are 191 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: reportedly worried that future computer crashes could lead to motorists 192 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: getting the wrong information and that this could ultimately contribute 193 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: to serious car accidents. And that sounds like it's a 194 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: reasonable fear, because one of the things that Smart Motorways 195 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: project is doing is not just putting out digital signs. 196 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:52,359 Speaker 1: They're actually removing the hard shoulder along the side of motorways, 197 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: which is the place where you would normally pull over 198 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: if your car were experiencing problems and that way you 199 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: would be out of traffic. They are replacing those hard 200 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: shoulders with an additional lane of traffic to be used 201 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: just in normal day to day use. The digital signs 202 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: are supposed to signal a large red X to indicate 203 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: that a lane is occupied when a vehicle has to 204 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: be pulled over because it's no longer operational for whatever reason. Right, 205 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: So you've got a breakdown or a flat tire or something, 206 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: well you would come to a stop in this lane 207 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: of traffic, and then these signs are supposed to say, hey, 208 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: don't travel in this lane of traffic because there's a 209 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: car that's stopped up ahead. Maybe the driver is even 210 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: out of the car trying to fix their vehicle. Maybe they're, 211 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: you know, trying to change a tire or something. And 212 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: if the system crashes during one of those incidents, which 213 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: happened a lot by the way, I mean, I'm sure 214 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: you've seen as you've traveled, like it's pretty common to 215 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: see at least a couple of cars pulled over on 216 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: the side of the road in different places where motorists 217 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: are having to deal with unexpected problems. Well, if the 218 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: system crashes, then those signs don't update and you don't 219 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: get those red exits, which means that you could have 220 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: drivers traveling at full speed down that fourth lane of travel, 221 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: and then you could have potentially cataclysmic collision. You could 222 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: have fatalities as a result of this has gotten to 223 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: the point where some of the staff have started giving 224 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: the system a new name. The system has the proprietary 225 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: name d Knack d Y n A C. And some 226 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: of the staff have called it die now, which is 227 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: pretty grim stuff. So here's an example where a technological 228 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: solution could potentially make a problem worse. Now. I'd argue 229 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: this is also because the decision to add that fourth 230 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: lane and not have a hard shoulder there really contributes 231 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: to the the problem at hand. So this is a 232 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: combination of technological fails and I don't know, Hubris maybe 233 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: so a lot of the staff are saying we need 234 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: to have a backup, we need to have that hard 235 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: shoulder and not to get rid of it, and I 236 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: tend to agree with the staff on this one. We've 237 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: got a few more stories to cover, but before we 238 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: get to that, let's take a quick break. We're back. 239 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: So Patreon is making some interesting moves lately. The company 240 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: has acquired a New York based recruiting firm called Clear Talent, 241 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: and from what Reuters is reporting, it sounds like Patreon's 242 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: goal is to expand beyond being a platform that creative 243 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: types can use in order to monetize their talents. If 244 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: you're not familiar with Patreon, the general way it works 245 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: is that creators of all different kinds will establish an 246 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: account and then they generally offer one of two things 247 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: to their followers. Some creators will establish a monthly subscription fee, 248 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: and you subscribe, you pay a certain subscription and sometimes 249 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: this is and different tiers, with subscribers getting access to 250 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: content that relates to those tears. So you might have 251 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: like a five dollar per month charge and that provides 252 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: you with access to a certain subset of content, and 253 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: then if you were to upgrade to ten dollars a month, 254 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: you would get additional content and so on. Another way 255 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: that creators can choose to go is to instead to 256 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: have subscribers pay only when new content comes out, So 257 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: instead of it being a flat fee every month, it's 258 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: a let's say, let's say you're a video content creator. 259 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: Every time a new video comes out, then a charge 260 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: would go out to your followers. But otherwise, uh, if 261 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: you went like several weeks without creating a new video, 262 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: then no one would get charged. So there are different 263 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: ways of going about it. Anyway. Now, Patreon seems to 264 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: be heading in a direction to try and become more 265 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: of a one stop shop as far as content creators go, 266 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: and it's supposed to give them other ways to manage 267 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: their businesses. So it's almost like a small business toolkit 268 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: in a way. UH that could include stuff like ways 269 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: to sell merchandise and other add ons in addition to 270 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: the money that creators earn uh from subscription models, and 271 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: it could be a really good way for creatives to 272 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: manage their businesses. It's challenging to both be a creative 273 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: content person and to oversee all the business elements of 274 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: your endeavors. This does mean that creators will see some 275 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: of that money go towards the platform rather than to themselves. 276 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: That's just the nature of things. But on the flip side, 277 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: they get heightened visibility because Patreon is a visible platform, 278 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: and a lot of the hassle of managing your business 279 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: is removed from the operational standpoint. I think, based on 280 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: the very little I know, that this could be a 281 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: good move for all parties, but we're obviously gonna have 282 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: to pay attention to make sure. In the past, we've 283 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: covered how various online platforms have tried to tackle the 284 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: huge problem of misinformation and disinformation campaigns. So Twitter tags 285 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: labels on stuff and bands accounts that are repeat offenders. 286 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: Facebook takes down groups, although you could argue they don't 287 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: take them down as quickly as new ones pop up. 288 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: But one platform I have not talked about is Reddit. 289 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 1: Last week, a number of sub credits And if you're 290 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: not familiar with Reddit, uh, it's kind of like a 291 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: user generated link farm in a way, but it's organized 292 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: in various fields of interest, so you can think of 293 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: subredits as sort of like channels of Reddit that focus 294 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: on specific interests or topics. Anyway, a bunch of subredits 295 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: petition the administrators of Reddit to do something about the 296 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: proliferation of disinformation about COVID nineteen that is running rampant 297 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: on the platform. The subredits claim that Reddit has done 298 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: little to curtail disinformation campaigns about stuff like vaccines and 299 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: masks in the spread of COVID nineteen, and thus is 300 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: contributing to people getting a false view of how things work, 301 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: which subsequently puts more people at risk of getting sick 302 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: or worse. Reddit has effectively sequestered a subreddit that focused 303 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: on these topics, so you could still access it if 304 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: you were a member of it, but otherwise you wouldn't 305 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: come across it. But according to the subredits, it really 306 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: hasn't done much else to stop the spread of false 307 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: information on the platform. So in protest, large groups of 308 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: subredits have switched to private membership, which means you can't 309 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: just pop in there and brows the posts in that subredit, 310 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: or leave a message on there or anything like that. Effectively, 311 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: to the outside world, these subredits are going dark, but 312 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: they're not completely going dark, because anyone who actually is 313 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: an existing member of those subredits can still access them. 314 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: But clearly the admins of these subredits will be able 315 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: to give the boot to anyone who tries to spread misinformation, 316 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: essentially saying that's not welcome in this community. Meanwhile, the 317 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: same subreddits are continuing to appeal to Reddit and to 318 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: go beyond Reddit by talking about this in other forums 319 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: and to news media outlets in order to take a 320 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: more active stance against misinformation. The company's official stance is 321 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: that red is a place where users can hash it 322 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: out for themselves, and that sounds an awful lot like 323 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: what Mark Zuckerberg said about Facebook, that it's not the 324 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: platform's responsibility to take sides in this kind of thing. 325 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: There is, however, a really big problem with this, because 326 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: it's not just like a debate, and this is a 327 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 1: problem that people have known about for centuries. And that's this. 328 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: It's way easier for lies to spread than it is 329 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: to get the truth to take hold. Or, as Mark 330 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: Twain did not put it, a lie can travel halfway 331 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 1: around the world before the truth puts on its shoes. See, 332 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: a lot of folks actually attribute that quote to Mark Twain. 333 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: That's incredibly fitting because it wasn't Mark Twain who coined 334 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: that phrase. In fact, the earliest variation of this saying 335 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: that I have found came from seven from a sermon 336 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: delivered by a guy named Thomas Franklin. But that misinformation 337 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: you know about Mark Twain allegedly saying this has traveled 338 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: far and wide. In some other versions it's Winston Churchill 339 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: who gets the credit rather than Mark Twain. But all 340 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: of that just proves the point, right, It just proves 341 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: the truth that these lies travel far and wide much 342 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,479 Speaker 1: easier than the truth does. So if you give equal 343 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: ground to truth and falsehoods, as if falsehoods have some 344 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: sort of legitimacy to them, falsehoods run away with it 345 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: because they don't require the burden of reality. So I 346 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: am fully on the side of the sub credits in 347 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: this case. In semi related news, Axios reports that Facebook 348 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: will be tweaking its ranking algorithm. That's the algorithm that 349 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: determines which posts you and to see when you log 350 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: into Facebook and you check out your news feed. Apparently 351 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: this will include de emphasizing elements that lead to people 352 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: figuring out how to you know, kind of gain the system, 353 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: like a prediction of how likely someone is going to 354 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: engage with specific content. So just as a quick refresher 355 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: to remind yourselves how Facebook works. Facebook makes a lot 356 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: of money. In fact, the vast majority of its revenue 357 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: through advertising. So the more time you spend on Facebook, 358 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: the more ads you will encounter. That means that Facebook 359 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: will make more money based off your visit. Because you're 360 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: spending more time, you're seeing more ads, Facebook makes more money. 361 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: One way to convince you to spend more time on 362 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: Facebook is for Facebook to serve up stuff that gets 363 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: a big reaction out of you, so that you comment 364 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: on things or you share them. If these posts are 365 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: actually ads and you are engaging with them, that's even 366 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: more valuable for Facebook. And you're also giving Facebook more 367 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: information about yourself, which makes you easier to advertise to. 368 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: Now a lot of the time this content that gets 369 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: heavily engaged is pretty darn toxic stuff and frequently includes 370 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: misinformation for the same reasons I was just mentioning in US. 371 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: You know, the previous news item. So folks who wanted 372 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: to spread certain messages, like a propaganda campaign, they could 373 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,959 Speaker 1: build that into their posting strategy to get more circulation 374 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: of their work. Well, now Facebook is going to take 375 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: away some of that, making these types of campaigns a 376 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: little less effective. Facebook is likely to show less news 377 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: content in general, and less political content in particular. Uh. 378 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 1: The company has run numerous tests with focus groups that 379 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: showed that users really liked it when less of that 380 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: stuff was popping up in our news feeds. Now, these 381 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: changes are likely to roll out gradually, you know, kind 382 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,239 Speaker 1: of over a long time frame. It's possible that we 383 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: won't even notice the changes happening because they'll happen so gradually. 384 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: But according to Axios, we should expect the Facebook of 385 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: the future to be slightly less political, which I think 386 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: is a good thing. There's a new rule in place 387 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: to combat what the Chinese government says is an addiction 388 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: among China's youth. And it's not drugs, it's video games. Yep, 389 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: they come a long way since pac Man. So the 390 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: Chinese government has ordered online gaming companies to build in 391 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: time restrictions to prevent kids in China from falling into 392 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: the deep void of video game addiction. According to the 393 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: new rules, anyone under the age of eighteen will have 394 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: their game time restricted to between eight pm and nine pm, 395 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: so one hour a day, and the government issued a 396 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: warning that the video game companies would need to put 397 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: into place reliable verification processes to make sure kids weren't 398 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: skirting the rule by like using adult ideas to log 399 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: into games to get around the age gating system. The 400 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: government says it will increase inspections to these companies to 401 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: make sure that they are up to code on this stuff. 402 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: And while I'm skeptical that the companies are going to 403 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: be able to get around kids who are determined to 404 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: find ways to circumvent the rules, I can at least 405 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: sympathize with this initiative. And that's because games are built 406 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: upon a reward system. You play a game, you achieve something, 407 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: your brain releases a hormone that says, hey, good job you, 408 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: and you feel nice, or maybe you get really close 409 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: to achieving a goal. But the only you fall just short, 410 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: and then your brain either says try again, you can 411 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,479 Speaker 1: do it, or if it's like my brain, it's as 412 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: stupid game, stupid game, cheats. I hate it. I'll just 413 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: play one more turn. Anyway, The whole addiction angle might 414 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: be a bit extreme, but there is definitely an element 415 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: of truth to it. Whether this was leading to a 416 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: downfall of Chinese society or not is another matter. I 417 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: suppose and find the mark your calendars for October five, 418 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: Windows users, because that's when Windows eleven releases, the newest 419 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: version of the operating system. It will be a free 420 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 1: upgrade for PCs that are running qualified versions of Windows 421 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: ten and are rated to support Windows eleven. It will 422 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: come standard on new pecs as the official Windows OS 423 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: moving forward. One thing that will not be included, at 424 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: least not at launch, is support for Android apps. Microsoft 425 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: says that support is coming, but did not give a 426 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: precise date for when that will happen when Microsoft also 427 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: has the system to determine when users will get to 428 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: install OS on their machines, So apparently Microsoft is doing 429 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: this on a gradual rollout, and they will prioritize newer systems, 430 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: new or more powerful ones and older ones will be 431 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: further back in the queue. Honestly, that kind of makes sense. 432 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: New oss tend to have bigger resource demands, some older 433 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: systems might not be a great fit for that, and 434 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: it sounds like this rollout will be pretty ratual in 435 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: that some systems, like perhaps the oldest ones that can 436 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: still support Windows eleven, will not get the update until 437 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: possibly sometime in the middle of next year. Of course, 438 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: that's not necessarily a bad thing. I often remind myself 439 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: that it's typically wise to wait a little bit before 440 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: jumping on a new operating system or even a new 441 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: piece of hardware, because invariably there's going to be issues 442 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: and problems that pop up that need to get worked out, 443 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: and often it's less of a headache to just sit 444 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 1: back and wait a bit for all of that to 445 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: play out, rather than to jump on board early and 446 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: to go through all of those issues in real time. 447 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: I say this to you as much as I say 448 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: it to myself, yet again, because recently I jumped on 449 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: the Android twelve beta and ran into numerous little issues. Again, 450 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: that was a beta, so it's to be expected. I mean, 451 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: that's that's on me these days. I'm back on to 452 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: Android eleven and happy as can be anyway. October, plan 453 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: your part ease. Now you know those PC operating system 454 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: release parties, they get wild Man. There's punch and that 455 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: wraps up the news for Tuesday, August again. Stay safe, 456 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: stay well, and I will talk to you again really soon. 457 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: Text Stuff is an I Heart Radio production. 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