1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: All right, that's it the feel. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: Oh woe to talk All The Yankees are headed west 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 2: at thirty five and seventeen, the best record in the 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 2: American League. They're three and a half games up on 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 2: the Baltimore Orioles in the American League East, and they've 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 2: both scored the most runs in the league and allowed 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: the fewest. Tonight, Yankees beat writer Max Goodman joins the 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: show with the insider perspective on the emergence of Louise Heel, 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: who's making a statement as a rookie, plus Labor Torres' struggles, 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 2: hal Steinbrenner's wallet, and are Judge and Soto the best 11 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: Yankees duo since Roger Morris and Mickey Mantle in nineteen 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 2: sixty one? All that and more, This is n Y 13 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: Y recaps just when they pull me back. Looking to 14 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: boost your sports betting game, meet odds Jam, the ultimate 15 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: ally for data driven wagernk With two hundred and sixty 16 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: plus sports books, it's your go to platform. 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I'm a little bummed because I turned forty one 27 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: on this Saturday, and I'm finally kind of having in 28 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: the reality set in that I'm never gonna play for 29 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: the Yankees, you know, unless there's some kind of catastrophic 30 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: event like in that movie Interstellar where you saw all 31 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: the random dudes like out into Cornfield playing as the 32 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: Yankees while nobody has food. Like, if that happens and 33 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: I survive, we're good. But otherwise I'm pretty much I'm 34 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 2: pretty much screwed. Never gonna play for the Yanks. 35 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: Well, hey, we've got the media game at Fenway Park 36 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 1: coming up next month. Nice, so us on the beat 37 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: are We're definitely looking forward to that, and then Yankee 38 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: Stadium is later in the year in September. But those 39 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: are good benchmarks throughout the year where we can actually 40 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: get out there and you know, flex our muscles a 41 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: little bit, try not to pull a hamstring or anything 42 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: like that. 43 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: I saw you take one to the warning track last year. 44 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: That's pretty impressive. Was it metal or what would bet nice? Nice? 45 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: Was there a hanger from hok? What was it? 46 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: No? So we play against the Red Sox media, so 47 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: I don't know who it was. I think they may 48 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: have actually brought their side, brought a couple like Men's 49 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: league guys or friends of reporters, because I think Boston 50 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: had a getaway day in Cleveland the day before. This 51 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: was last fall. And yeah, it was a lefty I'll 52 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: give you a Jamie Moyer comp wasn't thrown very hard 53 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: and I was licking my chops coming up there. It 54 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: was late in the game, so I had warmed up 55 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: a little bit and he just grooveed one, you know, 56 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: belt high. I was using Marwin Gonzalez as pink Mother's 57 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: Day bat because they give us a like a hodgepodge 58 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: of random equipment that we can use that they have 59 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: left over. So there was a massa hero Tanaka bat, 60 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: a Rob Refsnyder bat, and I fell in love with 61 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: the Marwin bat. And yeah, it was the single best 62 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: moment of my life. Probably I thought it was gone 63 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: and I'll try to be better at at Fenway now, 64 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: but I'm looking forward to that game for sure. 65 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: One of the last times I ever pitched, I got 66 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: Elliott Johnson out who he was in the World Series. 67 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: I throw a cutter down and in at the USA 68 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: Baseball Stadium, He'll ground out first base and that was 69 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: pretty much the end of the line. I had a 70 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 2: really good year in twenty sixteen in this men's league, 71 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: but by twenty nineteen there was the guy who wrote 72 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: my mortgage was pitching against us, and he struck me 73 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: out like three times, and I was like, I'm done. 74 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: I can't like it. Struck out by bankers and shit 75 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: like if you're a next college player X pro player, cool, 76 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: but when you're you're writing mortgages and striking me out, 77 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: time to hang it up. But speaking of strikeouts, how 78 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 2: about Louise hel Man two point one one era? Ken 79 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: Rosenthal said today that the Yankees might back off of 80 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 2: him when Garrett Cole comes back. Do you agree with that? 81 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: And you know, how do you take a potential cy 82 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 2: young candidate at this point out of the rotation? Kids 83 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: having a fantastic rookie season. 84 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: We honestly could talk about this for the entire program 85 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: because it's such a big story with the team right now. 86 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: I mean every time he's going out there, the fourteen 87 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: strikeouts before this now giving up only one hit and 88 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: it honestly probably could have been an error on Volpi 89 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: the one hit that heal did give up. The numbers 90 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: are historic. He's pitching his way into the history books. 91 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: He's showing what he can do when healthy, because again, 92 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: this is his first full season since undergoing Tommy John 93 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: surgery a couple of years ago. And that's the bottom line, Derek, 94 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: is that I don't think the Yankees should over exert 95 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: him here as good as he has been. And that's 96 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: why I think Rosenthal's report, or maybe that was just 97 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: his opinion too, it is spot on to a certain extent. 98 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: You don't want him going out there and throwing two 99 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: hundred innings. I added it up earlier at the ballpark. 100 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: I think between the miners and the majors in twenty 101 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: twenty one, he threw just over one hundred innings and 102 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: that's the most that he's ever had in his pro 103 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: career in a single season. And he's already over halfway 104 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: to that. I think he got to fifty five and 105 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: a third as of today, so you know he's going 106 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: to get to that point and he's never been there before. 107 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: But the caveat is, and this was a question that 108 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: was asked to both Boone and Heel today is how 109 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: are you feeling? It certainly looks like he's getting stronger 110 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: or or carly not deteriorating in the slightest and the 111 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: consensus is that's he's doing good. And that's a testament 112 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: to one the fact that he's healthy, but two, just 113 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: the routine that he has and learning from the Matt 114 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: Blake and the rest of the coaching staff, but also 115 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: Garrett Cole, who calls a and a part of the 116 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: coaching staff for him, and having that routine and learning 117 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: to execute and get better between starts and continue to 118 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: improve with the secondaries. That was what when I asked 119 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: Boone what has impressed him the most today With Heel, 120 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: it was the fact that he can use his fastball 121 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: or his change up or his slider in any count. 122 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: And he was showing that today as he has in 123 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: every single start. So they've got a little bit of 124 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: a pitching predicament on the horizon here where you know, 125 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: you could make a case for Heel sticking around. I 126 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: think you could make a case for maybe taking Nestor 127 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: out because he's got the highest ERA, but he's been 128 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: so good at home. I don't think Clark it's going anywhere, 129 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: and it's certainly not going to be Rodin or Stroman 130 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: with how much they're making, and they're the veterans and 131 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: the staples in there too, so Boone didn't rule out 132 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: a six man rotation. I think classically these things kind 133 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: of take care of themselves. Though Cole's not returning imminently 134 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,119 Speaker 1: just yet. It's still three, four or five weeks away, 135 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: and he's got some ramping up to do in a 136 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: rehab assignment and all that. So it's something that we 137 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: can continue to talk about. But yeah, I don't think 138 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: he'll should go anywhere anytime soon, so long as he's 139 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: pitching this well and feeling as good as he is. 140 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, if he's got five more starts between now and 141 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: when Garrett Cole comes back, I mean, if he's ten 142 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: and one with a two ERA, it's really tough to say, Okay, 143 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: go down to triple A or go to the bullpen. 144 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: It's tough to do that. But he's having that kind 145 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: of season I could see, and he's getting better every 146 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: time out. You can see that Garrett Cole's tutelage is 147 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: helping and correct me if I'm wrong. Garrett Cole is 148 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: going to be an elite pitching coach the day he retires. 149 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's something that he wants to do, 150 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: but he would be very good at it. He's so 151 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: charismatic off the field, but he's also such a student 152 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: of the game, and you're seeing that with you know. 153 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: I think I saw a clip on Twitter and I 154 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: meant to ask about this after the game, but it 155 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: looked like Cole kind of motioned Rizzo to call for 156 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: a Mountain visit. Yeah, and that turned out to be 157 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: a huge moment in the game where he had a 158 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: couple extra minutes to gather and then get out of 159 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: that jam. I think that was in the sixth Yeah. 160 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he certainly comes across as a coach, and 161 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: he's such a savant. It's kind of like the the 162 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: Michael King and the Clark Schmidt. They're so good at 163 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: the x's and o's of pitching but he's also he 164 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: gets along with everybody, and he's a quirky personality, so 165 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: he's got all the bases covered. 166 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: I love listening to Garrett Cole give interviews, but unless 167 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 2: you ask him if he used sticky stuff, and then 168 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: he sits there for five minutes. But I digress. Would 169 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: you make a house Steinbrenner's comments this week where he 170 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: said the Yankees this is, you know, our payrolls not 171 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 2: financially sustainable for us, and YadA, YadA, YadA. I don't 172 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: know if I buy it. To me, that kind of 173 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 2: feels like, hey, I'm getting ready to start negotiations over 174 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 2: Wan Soto. Let me put out there that the budget's 175 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: kind of tight, just to set expectations so that Scott 176 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: Boris doesn't say, okay, you want an extension a billion dollars, 177 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: you know. To me, that's kind of what it really fell, 178 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: because the Yankees have plenty of money, Let's be honest. 179 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: They do. I think my biggest takeaway was that you 180 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: have to prepare for the Yankees to not bring most 181 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: of their pending free agents back. And I'm not going 182 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: to include Sodo in there, because I think the plan 183 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: will be to bring Sodo back, and if they do, 184 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: the money is going to be invested in him, and 185 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: I think that means Glabor's not coming back, Clay Holmes 186 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: isn't coming back. For Dugo isn't coming back. I wrote 187 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: everybody down, Cainley, Lowizaga and Rizzo has a club option, 188 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: which is a little tougher because of how close he 189 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: is with Judge and he has his moments, and he's 190 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: also such an anchor in terms of leadership and the 191 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: off the field aspects. But I think this also signals 192 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: kind of even more of a youth movement. Maybe for 193 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: next year. If you bring Sodo back, you're probably going 194 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: to see the Caleb Durbans and the Orbit Vivus is 195 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: on the infield and maybe Ben Rice over at first. 196 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: In the outfield, it's all the big names. It's Spencer 197 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: Jones and Jason Dominguez. Ever since, Pereira's kind of hanging around. 198 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 1: I was in Scranton the other day and he's made 199 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: an adjustment recently to try to fix his biggest weaknesses 200 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: and the swing and miss and the whiff rate all 201 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: that stuff. So I think that that would be one 202 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: way to offset just purely the cost of admission in 203 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: terms of bringing Sodo back, which is what they have 204 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: to do, right. I mean, he's been so good, he's 205 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: exceeded expectations that were already in the stratosphere. And how 206 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: watching this season must be ruing the day that Soda 207 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: won't be a Yankee, and whether that's the beginning of 208 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: next season, which they certainly hope won't be the case, 209 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: or if it's fourteen years from now when he's finally 210 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: hanging it up. They got to find a way to 211 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: keep him around. 212 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, the homestand that he just had was absolutely incredible. 213 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: I've never seen a lefty that has opposite field power 214 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: the way that Juan Soto does. He's hit some balls 215 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 2: that have almost gone into the left field bleachers. He 216 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: sprays it line to line. I mean, I just it 217 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: must be some kind of a physics thing that's different 218 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: about his swing, because he just absolutely hits these balls 219 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: that are deep in the zone that you know, most 220 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: guys would foul these pitches off, and he's putting them 221 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: fifteen rows deep in the seats. I don't get it. 222 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: I just don't get it. It's weird. 223 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: There was one homer that he hit off of the 224 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: advertisements on the back wall of the bullpen. I think 225 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: it was overshadowed a little bit. That was in that 226 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 1: series where Stanton hit a ball one twenty and I 227 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: think Judge hit a very far home run as he 228 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: often does as well. But you're right. I mean he's 229 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: got power to all fields, and that was kind of 230 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: why the narrative was, Oh, he's a lefty, he's gonna 231 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: tear up the short porch. I don't think he's even 232 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: hit one short porch homer. Yeah, so far. When he 233 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: does pull it, it's to the bleachers and right, and 234 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: he has this propensity, like you said, to go to 235 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: left center and it's either a double off the wall 236 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: or it's in the bullpen. 237 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, unbelievable. You mentioned shortly ago that you were at 238 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 2: Triple A, you were down in the minor leagues. You 239 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 2: had written an article about Will Warren, who is one 240 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: of the Yankees' top pitching prospects, who last I saw 241 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 2: I had a seven point something in the minor leagues 242 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 2: this year. What's the story with him? Is it a 243 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: mechanical thing. Is he just getting hit harder by the 244 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: better hitters as he moves up, or what's the deal. 245 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: The sense that I got, and mind you, I was 246 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: only parachuting in for one day, so I was hoping 247 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: to get to see him at his best because he 248 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: is a very talented pitcher and that hasn't gone away 249 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: despite the seven six to two era. But he gave 250 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: up nine earned runs, the most that he has in 251 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: a single game in his pro career against the Triple 252 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: A Mets. G man Choi hit this home run. Speaking 253 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: of lefties going to left center, I think it was 254 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: like four hundred and forty feet or something like that. 255 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, the sense that I got while I was 256 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: there was that he's just missing his spots. He's getting 257 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: into not great counts, and he had this adjustment period 258 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: because I did get a chance to talk to him 259 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: very briefly after the game, which was a twelve to 260 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: one loss. So kudos to him for taking a couple 261 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: of minutes to talk, which is exactly what he's going 262 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: to have to do when he is in the big league. 263 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: So that's good, good practice for him. But what was 264 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: I saying. You remind me what I was saying. 265 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 2: You know, you had a minute to talk to him, 266 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 2: and kudos to him for taking the time. You know, 267 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: he was he was yeah. 268 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. Last year when he did get called up to 269 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 1: Triple A, I remember he had an ERA over six 270 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: I think for his first chunk of starts. And that's 271 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: kind of the thing with him right now that he's 272 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: just trying to figure out and make sure that he 273 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: can trust his stuff. I think that's the bottom line, 274 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: because we saw in spring screening he was on the 275 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: brink of winning a spot in the opening day roster. 276 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: I think if Luis Heal didn't have that one start 277 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: in Clearwater and really start to get hot towards the 278 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: end of March, it would have been Warren that would 279 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: have made the team. In fact, I think I might 280 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: have even said to you that I thought it was 281 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: going to be worn because he was pitching so well. 282 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: So it really just comes down to maybe he's getting unlucky. 283 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: He's missing over the middle, he's he's getting behind in 284 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: the count where he has to go to his fastball 285 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: in certain situations. Really a perfect storm in the worst way. 286 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: But like I said, I mean, he does have the 287 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: talent to perform as a reason why he's such a 288 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: highly touted prospect. And it's ironic in a way that 289 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: the Yankees haven't needed anybody like that. Their rotation has 290 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: just been so reliable and stable and historically effective. I mean, 291 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: you look at the numbers, they've been so good. There 292 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: hasn't been a stretch like this in Yankee's franchise history, 293 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: I believe, in terms of their last eleven starts. So 294 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: someone is going to go down, even when they have 295 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: Cole coming back, and you know Warren's going to try 296 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: to figure it out before then because he might be 297 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: that guy that gets called up. 298 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 2: So, speaking of the minor leagues, DJ Lemayhew is working 299 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 2: his way back through the bushes. He's supposedly going to 300 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: possibly be back when the Yankees play the Angels on 301 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: the West Coast trip. Did you have a chance to 302 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: see him at all? And if so, how do he look? 303 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: I didn't. He was in Brooklyn the last couple of 304 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: days with Hudson Valley, and then he was in Somerset 305 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: before that. I do make a lot of minor league trips, 306 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: but I just didn't cross over with him. 307 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 2: Do you think that when he comes back, he's still 308 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: going to be the leadoff man or do you think 309 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 2: that Volpi's kind of I feel like Volpie with a 310 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: sixteen game hitting streak, hitting over three twenty the last 311 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: fifteen or so games. I feel like he's kind of 312 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 2: sees that leadoff spot and taken it away from DJ. 313 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: Right. That's my thinking too. I think a couple of 314 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: weeks ago, maybe I would have said, you know, if 315 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: a healthy Lamayhew and maybe second half la Mayhew of 316 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: last year, because he's not going to recapture his old 317 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: batting title form necessarily. But he looked much better at 318 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: the end of last season and Volpi was struggling for 319 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: a little bit once he did move the leadoff spot. 320 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: But that clip right there I wanted to bring up. 321 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: I mean, that's something that la Mayhew isn't capable of rights. 322 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: That's stretching a single into a double, then stealing third 323 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: and putting Sodo in a position where all he needs 324 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: to do is just get the ball through the infield 325 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: and it's an insurance run, and that's such a valuable 326 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: thing to have at the top of your order. Not 327 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: to mention the fact that that Volpi does have the 328 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: power to go the other way and hit a ball 329 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: into the seats. And like you said, the hitting streak 330 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: is great, but he's getting on base, he's working the count. 331 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he's seeing so many pitches per at bad. 332 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,359 Speaker 1: I think one of my favorite moments recently in the clubhouse, 333 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: you know, postgame press conferences, is Carlos Rodin was asked 334 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: about the length of the lineup and he just went 335 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: on this tangent like going through each different person from 336 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: Volpi to Soto to Judge and was like, man, this 337 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: lineup is really good, and don't realized how good it was. 338 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: But when he was talking about Volpi, it's you know, 339 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: you've got a guy who's who's going to see five 340 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: six pitches, and you know that Sodo's looming on deck, 341 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: so you don't want him to get on because then 342 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: he's going to steal second. And Soto is hitting almost 343 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: five hundred with runners in scoring positions. So again not 344 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: to say that lo Mayhew doesn't get on base when 345 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: he's at his best. And you know, we'll see what 346 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: happens when he does come back if he's praying line 347 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: drives the right field and capitalizing on mistakes, because that's 348 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: what he does when he's you know, in his in 349 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: his vintage form. But I don't think that they're going 350 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: to play Lemayhew every single day either, and he's got 351 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: to ease back. This is an injury that's taken him, 352 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, over a quarter of the season to get back, 353 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: you know, to the big leagues with So you've also 354 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: got Osbaldo Cabrera and John Birdie that have been playing 355 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: well too, So there has to be a way to 356 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: get everybody in and get them their reps. And I 357 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: wonder if Glaber Torres at times will be the odd 358 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: man out too. If we mayhe was ready enough to 359 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: play second base, you could put Bertie and Cabrera over 360 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: there at third. I guess you can spotically put them 361 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: at second two, but I don't know if they would 362 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: usurp Glabor in that way. 363 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,239 Speaker 2: If you know what I mean, I like what I've 364 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 2: seen from Birdie, but top of the order, I mean, 365 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 2: like you mentioned, it's just such a dead man's gambit. 366 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 2: I mean, you've got you got vote leading off, and 367 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: if you give him anything that's too good to hit, 368 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: he can crush it like he can hit home runs 369 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 2: on it. If you pitch him carefully, too carefully, he'll 370 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: draw a walk. So you pretty much got a pitch 371 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 2: to him and let him hit. And then once he 372 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 2: gets on bass, if you're throwing breaking balls and pitching 373 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 2: around Soto, he can steal second base. And then once 374 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 2: he steals second base, Soto's hitting five hundred with runners 375 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 2: in scoring position. And if you decide to pitch around Soto, 376 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, you got Aaron Judge up 377 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 2: with two on and nobody out, and you got Stanton 378 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: or Rizzo behind him, who were both you know, putting 379 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 2: up decent years. It's like, my god, like, if you 380 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 2: don't get Volpy out, you're in for a tough inning, 381 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 2: like you really are. And and Soto doesn't let up 382 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 2: against anybody. That's why I like him batting in front 383 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 2: of Aaron Judge, and I'm glad they stuck with that, 384 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 2: because he'll pass the baton like that's his game. He's 385 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 2: not gonna go out of the zone no matter you 386 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 2: know who's hitting behind him, right, So I would rather 387 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 2: him pass the baton to Judge in a spot for 388 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 2: a three run home run than pass it to you know, 389 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: Rizzo or someone who's not as dangerous. Right. So, I mean, 390 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 2: it's just the best top of the order that I've 391 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 2: ever seen. Well, and we'll touch on that, but you 392 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 2: mentioned Glabor Torres is it physical, Is it mental? I mean, 393 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 2: he's shown some signs of life lately, but it's still 394 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: he's not Glabor Torres that we've seen in the past. 395 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: What the hell's going on, I'm not sure. Yeah, there 396 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: really aren't that many encouraging signs in his advanced metrics either. 397 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: And I feel like we had this exact same conversation 398 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, where you look at his 399 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: Baseball Savant page and it's not like the Austin Wells 400 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: situation where he was hitting the ball really hard and 401 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: getting unlucky. You know, Glaber does have his moments, Like 402 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: you said, there was the big home run the other 403 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: night where he almost brought them back into the game, 404 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: and that was huge and clutch and he needed it. 405 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: But he hasn't been able to turn those flashes into consistent, 406 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: you know, production, And you almost feel for him because 407 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: this is his big chance to get a huge contract 408 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: and at this point, if this continues. One, I do 409 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,239 Speaker 1: think that he'll get a little less playing time as 410 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: the season goes on, because if everybody's healthy, someone's not 411 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: going to be in the lineup every day. And two, 412 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: you wonder what contract he is going to get. In 413 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: free agency. Is it a situation where he signs a 414 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: two year deal with an opt out or something like 415 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: that when this is his big year, you know, he's 416 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: what twenty seven to twenty eight. This is his chance 417 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: to get a you know, a six figure excuse me, 418 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: eight figure contract, and I don't know if he's going 419 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: to get it at this point. So it's a very 420 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: long season. And whenever we ask Boone or the hitting 421 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: coaches or anything like that, they're they're very fond of 422 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,959 Speaker 1: labor and they always say that we're not worried about him. 423 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: He's going to figure it out. But it's been over 424 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: fifty games at this point. At a certain point, he's 425 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 1: got to try to try something new or you know, 426 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: remember when he was hitting leadoff and he didn't have 427 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: it there either. So you can't even move him to 428 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: a different part in the lineup because he's already in 429 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: the bottom bottom half and bottom third. 430 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 2: Do you have any idea when your Vivas or Chase 431 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 2: Hampton or dude back. We're getting a lot of questions 432 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 2: in the comments about. 433 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: That Vivas is on a rehab, I believe, And when 434 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: I inquired about that the other day, because you know, 435 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: he'll go back to Triple A when he is healthy. 436 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: The sense that I got from Trevor Amacone, who's the 437 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,479 Speaker 1: hitting coach there, was that one they're they're extremely excited 438 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: about him, and his offensive profile is you know, Taylor 439 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: made for for Yankee Stadium and what the Yankees like 440 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: because he's a contact guy and he's also got huge 441 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: side power. But two, it's that he's he's finally getting closer. 442 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: That was something where he had a fracture on his 443 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,719 Speaker 1: face from something that happened in spring training, worked all 444 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: the way back, and then I think he played in 445 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: one game and he just wasn't feeling right. It was 446 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: still almost like the situation with Anthony Rizzo, I believe 447 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: would be a decent comparison to that. So they're just 448 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: taking it really slowly, trying to be super cautious because 449 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: as much as it's been two plus months now and 450 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: that's a long time in the span of his development. 451 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: For right now, it's a blip on the radar for 452 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: his long term picture, and he hasn't played that much 453 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: in Triple A in his pro career looking back to 454 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: what he did with the Dodgers. So getting him back 455 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: and having an extended stretch for him to really show 456 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: what he can do and continue to develop. It might 457 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: put him in a position to be the starting second 458 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: basement next year. I don't I don't think we can 459 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: roll that out necessarily. 460 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: All right, let's finish off with one kind of I'm 461 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 2: gonna put you on the spot. Who would you say 462 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 2: is a team MVP right now? Aaron Judge or Juan Soda. 463 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 2: So Soto's been more consistent, Judge has higher ops and 464 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 2: more home runs, and he plays a tougher position. 465 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: What do you got, oh man, and I have to 466 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 1: choose one of them? 467 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 2: You gotta pick one, baby, That can be only one. 468 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: I want to say so too, But in terms of 469 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: recency bias, I'll go with Judge just because of what 470 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: he means to the team overall. And there was something 471 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: that that Boone said today. He was in the dugout 472 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: and he, you know, leaned over to Brad Ostmis and 473 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: was like, you know, look up at the scoreboard. His 474 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: ops is over a thousand, and you know, less than 475 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: a month ago it was in the seven hundreds. Right, 476 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: He's just been on one of those vintage tears recently, 477 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: and you're you're really seeing what this offense is capable 478 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: of when he's at his best, because this is this 479 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: is really as good as it gets, where every every 480 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: game he's churning out extra base hits and a lot 481 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: of them are leaving the yard as well. But it 482 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: probably is Soto, I think in the grand scheme of things, 483 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: just because, like you said, how consistent he's been and 484 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: every at bat with him. I mean it's appointment viewing 485 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: with the both of them right now though, too, And 486 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: that's that's what you hope with this duo. And I 487 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: don't know if you're gonna ask about this too, but 488 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: best duos in Yankees history. Yeah, this has got to 489 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: be up there, right, and it makes you wonder what 490 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: to be capable of if they do lockdown Sodo for 491 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: a decade and beyond. 492 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, man Ol Maris, Garrick Ruth, I mean, 493 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 2: this has got to be up there in terms of 494 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 2: just in baseball history and certainly in my lifetime, I've 495 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 2: seen some good ones. Ortiz and Manny Ramirez certainly jumps out. 496 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 2: You know, when Bonds and Jeff Kent were at their peak, 497 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 2: that was an unbelievable righty lefty I think having the 498 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 2: righty lefty combination makes it that much better because it's like, 499 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 2: you know, you can't I mean, you could change pictures, 500 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 2: but you're not going to do that in the first inning, right, 501 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: I mean, So it's just it's just a gauntlet. It's 502 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 2: just a gauntlet. I've never seen anything like it. 503 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's two of the top four 504 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: five hitters in the game and you got to fix 505 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: them back in the first inning and also much late. Yeah, 506 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: it's it's so daunting for opposing pictures, and it's no 507 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: wonder that the team is playing this well, right, I mean, 508 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: this is why they went out and traded for him Soto, 509 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: that is because of just how generational he is. It's 510 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: it's almost like it's everything the Yankees wanted with Judge 511 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: and Stanton together, right, And Stanton just hasn't stayed on 512 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: the field for these last several years. But when he's 513 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: at his best two, when you got Verdugo hitting four 514 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: and Rizzo six, it's such a long and treacherous path 515 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: to get through that lineup, and then you got to 516 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: do it over and over. 517 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. We call it nuclear Stanton because he has these 518 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 2: short little bursts where he's just unstoppable. And they used 519 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 2: to be during his heyday, like with the Marlins, a 520 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: month or two long. And like, as you get older, 521 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 2: those streaks get shorter and shorter, right, We saw that 522 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: with a Rod to Share. We see it with everybody 523 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 2: as they get older. You know, those streaks become you know, 524 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 2: two weeks and then it's a week, and then it's 525 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 2: a series, you know, and then it's a hot game 526 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 2: once in a while, like Josh Donaldson, and then you're gone. 527 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 2: But I think Stanton is still in that period where 528 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 2: he can control a series right, four or five games, 529 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 2: And that's what gives me hope about him because what 530 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 2: if that happens in the World Series? What if that 531 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 2: happens in the Alcs? Because he's that type of guy 532 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: where he responds to pressure, you know, So like that 533 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: twenty twenty Stanton in the playoffs, I mean it was, 534 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 2: what five home runs in five games or something like that. 535 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 2: Get out of here, I mean, but unbelievable. 536 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: That's my credit. That's my response to whenever I hear 537 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: a fan criticized Stanton is as bad as he has 538 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: been in the regular season at times, including when he's 539 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: just not on the field. At all, because he's been 540 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: hurt so much. What he's done in the postseason is 541 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: commendable across the board, and he's also been so accountable 542 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: and candid to the media, like he's handling that aspect 543 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: of being in New York so well. Obviously, I think 544 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: it would be considered a disappointment and even a failure 545 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: if they never win a championship with him in Pinstripes, 546 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: because that's what he was brought over to do, and 547 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: he certainly hasn't lived up to just the grand scheme 548 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: of things, the expectations that the former MVP that was 549 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: coming over from the Marlins. But he has been so 550 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: consistently great in the playoffs, and like you said, if 551 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: the lineup is clicking like this in a postseason series, 552 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: it would take such such a perfect performance from an 553 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: opposing pitching staff to win four games in a seven 554 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: game stretch, right, I mean, I don't know how another 555 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: team could hold this offense down when it's at his best, 556 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: when it's at its best, for that long of a stretch. 557 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: And that's what's going to come down to. Are they 558 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: playing well at the end of the season going into 559 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: when it matters most, and are they healthy because adversity 560 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: is going to strike. They are going to lose one 561 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: of those guys or two of those guys at some 562 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: point during the summer. But you know, can they have 563 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: that full strength group versus what happened in twenty two 564 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: when they lost some of those guys and they didn't 565 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:57,959 Speaker 1: have them down the stretch. 566 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 2: You know, it's not unheard of for everybody to be healthy. 567 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 2: I'm crossing my fingers. We'll see what happens. But Max Goodman, 568 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 2: Yankees beat writer, follow him on X and all that 569 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 2: good stuff. He joins us about once a month to 570 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 2: talk about what's going on with the team. Max, I 571 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 2: appreciate it. Good to talk to you, and we'll talk 572 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 2: to you again in a few weeks. 573 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: Sounds like a plan. Thanks so much, have a good weekend. 574 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 2: Appreciate it, guys, Happy Memorial Day, all that good stuff.