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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, before your show, This is Alex Gellhart from

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Speaker 1: NFL Podcast is percent vegetarian, but one hundred percent met.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and

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Speaker 1: Greg rosa Thal. What's up, boys? Hey? Man? Like that

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Speaker 1: money drop? That was a good one. Well, large percentages

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Speaker 1: of the world are vegetarian, but in this in this

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Speaker 1: environment here, it's as like the earth would be shattering

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Speaker 1: if three of you had to not have like pork

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Speaker 1: stuffed in your mouth every day. Well, what are you

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Speaker 1: talking about? You? It's a it's a much higher percentage

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Speaker 1: of vegetarians in this room than in the greater society.

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Speaker 1: Pretty big in the in the states, that's true. That's

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Speaker 1: not true in large portions of the globe. Greg Also,

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Speaker 1: you can you can confirm that large portions of the

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Speaker 1: globe that it's vegetarian. You are going to bear hearing

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Speaker 1: from it from people on Twitter for thinking that the

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Speaker 1: entire world eats me. Let's not fall too far down

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Speaker 1: this uh this wormhole today at least a little later

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Speaker 1: uh in the off season. But I will say, Mark,

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Speaker 1: it's not just your vegetarian habits, it's also your eating

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Speaker 1: habits in general. That they can found and excite us

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Speaker 1: on some level. Excite is fine, confound is all right.

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Speaker 1: When it turns into something else, then I begin to

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Speaker 1: have an issue with it, and we've spent too much

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Speaker 1: time in it already. Well, I've I've found um, I

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Speaker 1: found a list of percentages by country. Not a single

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Speaker 1: country over ten percent for vegetarian. It accept India, That's

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Speaker 1: what I'm referring to, waver. But that's this one mathive country.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, a small little nation. But the but the

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Speaker 1: worldwide numbers thirty eight podcasts. I don't care about the

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Speaker 1: metrics on vegetarians. I want to talk about football because

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Speaker 1: we're men exactly, not who cares about meat, bringing about

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Speaker 1: the veggies, let's talk big skin and uh the draft

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Speaker 1: now in the rear view mirror. Uh, so what we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do. We did this last year and we had

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Speaker 1: that comes from time to time that we cover more

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Speaker 1: teams than others um without naming any teams. We do

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Speaker 1: like to do our best the Jets and Browns, partly

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Speaker 1: around the jetson Browns podcast, we do our best. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I listen, You're gonna put Dan Hansis and Mark Sesler

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Speaker 1: come up. It's just they are our teams. It's about

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Speaker 1: my team as their own teams. Everyone wants We never

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Speaker 1: our Thursday and Saturday Draft podcast. But in just in

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Speaker 1: case we haven't hit on everyone, we go around, Uh

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Speaker 1: will go around the NFC. Uh. Each team gets exactly

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Speaker 1: and this is very important, guys. Three minutes three minutes,

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Speaker 1: each team will divvy it up. Everyone will kind of

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Speaker 1: Math is hard. I mean, yeah, it's very hard. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So speaking wormholes, I don't want to fall down another

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Speaker 1: And look where I am. Aren't you proud of me? Dad?

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Speaker 1: This is the second time I've heard this. Uh alright,

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Speaker 1: so let's get into it. We got so much together.

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Speaker 1: we need to get his hot takes on the draft. UM,

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Speaker 1: But let's start and get into it. So we're gonna

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Speaker 1: I'm serious, guys, I'm timing this. After three minutes, Brandon

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Speaker 1: killer mark for them. It's interesting that you mentioned la

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Speaker 1: Fell because he goes to a Patriots team. In two

428
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Speaker 1: thousand fourteen, he was he was thought of as nothing

429
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Speaker 1: with Carolina and they make something out of and I

430
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Speaker 1: look at the Bengals is one of those teams. They're

431
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Speaker 1: not New England, but they're they're so consistent organizationally from

432
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Speaker 1: top to bottom, which was not true during all those years.

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Speaker 1: The people want to mention that you can, Yes, Lafel

434
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Speaker 1: is not the equivalent of the receiver they wanted, but

435
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Speaker 1: they can fit people into their system and keep going.

436
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Speaker 1: I don't view additions and losses with them the same

437
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Speaker 1: way I would with a team that's constantly churning over.

438
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Speaker 1: They also lost to Jackson. I know he's been there,

439
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Speaker 1: but that's that's significant after losing your O C and

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Speaker 1: d C the year before too. I mean, you can

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Speaker 1: at some point you're like this happened with Baltimore where

442
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Speaker 1: they lost a defensive coordinator every year or two and

443
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Speaker 1: then suddenly you know one year it's not gonna work.

444
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Speaker 1: You can't just keep plugging in all start coach. It

445
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Speaker 1: is a fun great roster, and I do like they're

446
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Speaker 1: always the team. The Ravens are kind of like this too,

447
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Speaker 1: but they're the team drafts the guy that's falling, that

448
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Speaker 1: that everyone expected to go higher and that has worked

449
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Speaker 1: out well. Like they are often the guy the team

450
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Speaker 1: taking the SEC big name player that fell to the

451
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Speaker 1: third round that you thought was going in the first,

452
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Speaker 1: and it usually works this year, Uh, not an SEC player,

453
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Speaker 1: but Andrew Billings kind of comes up when I think

454
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Speaker 1: of that, a guy that people thought would go in

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Speaker 1: the perfect right, he goes to the he goes to

456
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Speaker 1: the fourth round. They take him. That's a position of

457
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Speaker 1: need nose tackle. He'll probably wind up playing snaps. They're

458
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Speaker 1: good at getting rotation players and just making it all work.

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Speaker 1: When they lose players veterans, it's usually because they have

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Speaker 1: somebody somebody young that they've they've developed and want to

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Speaker 1: throw in there. They didn't want to keep Leon Hall,

462
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Speaker 1: basically Andre Smith. They drafted his replacement in the first

463
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Speaker 1: round last year, Leon Hall. They drafted his replacement with

464
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Speaker 1: Darkasanta Dard, Reggie Nelson, they drafted Sean Williams. They have

465
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Speaker 1: guys to plug him for all these guys, which makes

466
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Speaker 1: the contract Adam Jones signed this offseason even more amazing,

467
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Speaker 1: one of the more amazing achievements in veteran free agency history.

468
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Speaker 1: He got that contract that age thirty two. Moving on

469
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Speaker 1: to the Cleveland Browns. Hope back in the building in

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Speaker 1: Beret on the that old uh haunted abandoned uh Indian

471
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Speaker 1: burial ground. Maybe the ghosts have lifted. However, the next

472
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Speaker 1: two drafts are not supposed to be quarterback heavy. No, no,

473
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Speaker 1: big stues Andrew Lux not walking through that door from

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Speaker 1: what we understand. Uh did Sashi signed his NFL death

475
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Speaker 1: certificate by passing on a passer? Well? I think he's

476
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Speaker 1: They have to understand and they do one thing, that

477
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Speaker 1: they're going to be judged game by game, week by week,

478
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Speaker 1: and year by year with how Carson Wentz progresses versus

479
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Speaker 1: their own draft. That said, a year ago, if I

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Speaker 1: asked you who Carson Wentz was, you would have thought

481
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Speaker 1: he was someone that probably worked at CVS up the street.

482
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Speaker 1: None of us had heard of him. The National and

483
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Speaker 1: Scouting Service had him as the fourteen best heading into

484
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Speaker 1: the seas we know by now that the process of

485
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks rising up that it's a good class or a

486
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Speaker 1: bad class. That time is gonna come for any of

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Speaker 1: these teams that need that player to find them in

488
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Speaker 1: the draft. I I'm warming up to what they did

489
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Speaker 1: because they're trying to overhaul an entire team in three

490
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Speaker 1: or four years through the draft. You can't just do

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Speaker 1: with four picks of season. The logic is sound in

492
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Speaker 1: the fact that obviously, once the Rams trade happened, if

493
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Speaker 1: the Browns didn't love Carson Wentz, you get all that

494
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Speaker 1: you can for that second round, second overall pick, which

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Speaker 1: is exactly what they did. The question is whether the

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Speaker 1: Browns and Snoo regime can be trusted to have made

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Speaker 1: the right decision. Will find out because there's a lot

498
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Speaker 1: on the line here, careers are on the line. In

499
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Speaker 1: a given year, there are usually only three or four

500
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Speaker 1: teams sending a clear signal we're not competing this year,

501
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Speaker 1: we're not playing to win, we're building. And the Browns

502
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Speaker 1: are usually one of those teams almost every year, not

503
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Speaker 1: last year that we thought they were building. But I

504
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Speaker 1: remember on this podcast they said, I think this is

505
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Speaker 1: one of the worst two or three rosters in the

506
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Speaker 1: league and one of the worst two or three teams.

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Speaker 1: And I remember at the time that wasn't that popular,

508
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Speaker 1: but now it's like that roster is not any better now,

509
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Speaker 1: so it's still one of the worst. So I fully

510
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Speaker 1: expect them to not be ultra competitive this year. But

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Speaker 1: I think it makes sense if you if you're out

512
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Speaker 1: of these fourteen guys, if three are decent starters and

513
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Speaker 1: another couple of stick as good contributors, that's a win.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's just what you gotta do. And then

515
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Speaker 1: you gotta get another class like that next year, and

516
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Speaker 1: then maybe you're somewhere. You need difference makers, you need

517
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Speaker 1: you so well, we don't know about the players they drafted,

518
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Speaker 1: so you hope Coleman, they've got Joe Thomas and a

519
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Speaker 1: bunch of borderline mediocre players. That's not how you win

520
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 1: in the NFL. You need difference possibly Josh Gordon, but

521
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Speaker 1: not likely. So you hope you're right West. But the

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Speaker 1: one of the top three picks are a difference maker starters.

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Speaker 1: When you start with a baron roster, the key is not, Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's draft a couple of solid starters. It's not you

525
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Speaker 1: need difference makers. That's fair, and they're going to use

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Speaker 1: more money and they weren't going to use a lot

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Speaker 1: of money on free agency this time around. Bottom line,

528
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Speaker 1: you can't ask Hugh Jackson to center's career around a quarterback.

529
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Speaker 1: He didn't believe. And what we hear, for better or

530
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Speaker 1: worse is he was not a win sky. He was

531
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Speaker 1: a golf guy. They couldn't get golf, and they moved

532
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Speaker 1: on from a coaching angles different than us just looking

533
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Speaker 1: at rosters and saying next wire. So you can't lampoon

534
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Speaker 1: h Hugh Jackson now for for not falling in love

535
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Speaker 1: with a quarterback. We don't know enough about these quarterbacks

536
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Speaker 1: to say that's the that's the writer wrong. Does does

537
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Speaker 1: day Podesta, Sashi and Hugh know what they're doing? Will

538
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Hasling have the patients big storylines in Cleveland right now?

539
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Speaker 1: Greg Baltimore Ravens. Is this Ravens class thirteen deep? By

540
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Speaker 1: the way, the Browns took the most players in any

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Speaker 1: draft by any team since well, the Ravens only took

542
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Speaker 1: one player less. Is this thirteen player draft and a

543
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Speaker 1: lot of guys starting enough to get the Ravens back

544
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Speaker 1: in the a f C North in playoff mix right away? Like?

545
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Speaker 1: Are these guys gonna be on the field right away? Well?

546
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Speaker 1: Aren't they also getting you know, five or six key

547
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Speaker 1: players that you know, barely made a dent last year

548
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Speaker 1: because they were so riddled with injuries. They're getting almost

549
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Speaker 1: an entire new team back. And I think the Ravens.

550
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Speaker 1: If we don't want to trust Cleveland because of the past,

551
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: and that's fair, we should trust Ozzy knew some of

552
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: the Ravens because over and over he does this, he

553
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: finds players in the draft. He's getting criticized, surprisingly for

554
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: a draft that was very popular nationwide. There was some

555
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: columns in Baltimore that they played it too safe, that

556
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Speaker 1: they should have done anything they could to move up

557
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: for Ramsey, which they tried, but they didn't get it done.

558
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Speaker 1: That they took Stanley even though Tunso was higher on

559
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Speaker 1: their board because they were too worried about higher on

560
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Speaker 1: their board. Well, the d D. Kinkawala reported that that

561
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Speaker 1: he was on draft night, and then Adam Adam Schefter

562
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Speaker 1: reported that he was as well. For what it's worth, Um,

563
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: the Ravens did deny it after the fact, but I

564
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Speaker 1: buy those reports, especially it's coming from a couple of places. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, so they take Ronnie Stanley, then they passed

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Speaker 1: that Noah Spence in a couple other guys they could

567
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Speaker 1: have taken in the in the second round. But man,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I like this draft. I like Kenneth Dixon.

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Speaker 1: I think I think you can get I don't know

570
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Speaker 1: you can get a lot of place. He's there running

571
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Speaker 1: back in the fourth round. Mayock DJ like him a lot.

572
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Speaker 1: They think he might be starting of their draft picks

573
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Speaker 1: are drafted after the third round. I wouldn't expect immediate

574
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: contributions from from these guys. You took five guys in

575
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Speaker 1: the fourth round, which is the most in NFL history.

576
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: You hope that's because this team, and this is not

577
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 1: a new thing. Baltimore often has quite a few picks.

578
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: They get more compics and that's a strategy of theirs

579
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: than almost any team in the league. Definitely more than

580
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Speaker 1: any team. You're right though, when you said, like they're

581
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Speaker 1: getting a whole new team of players, Like think of

582
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Speaker 1: their receivers Perriman, Smith and Wallace. None of them essentially

583
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Speaker 1: had any impact for them last year. What's beyond mid season? Right? Whatsoever?

584
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Speaker 1: You know? You have wet All, you have Jimmy Smith,

585
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Speaker 1: you hope is healthier again, at least that's justin Forsett

586
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: was injured. List Joe Flacco. Yeah, Mark, how are you

587
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: gonna feel when uh as Greg said, fourth round pick

588
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Speaker 1: Kenneth Dixon takes Trent Richardson's roster spot and about August, Well,

589
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: I mean, bottom line, you know, quickly on On Richardson,

590
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Speaker 1: if he shows well during that camp, he's going to

591
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: have a better chance than he did last summer of

592
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Speaker 1: getting a job in the fall. He only has to

593
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Speaker 1: have one snap. Ever again, Dan, and you're done. It

594
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: was breakfast three. I think I'll have two of them.

595
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: I think he's in deep trouble here. This is it

596
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: is not the best running back group in the world,

597
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: but it is very deep. You have for set Buck Allen,

598
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: who was very capable, and Dixon right off the bat,

599
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: then Talia Faro and west Fred Richardson sixth on the

600
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Speaker 1: depth start we move on to the a f C South.

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Speaker 1: This is you know, halftime, guys, great job, keep up

602
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: the good work. Mark, get us going with the Tennessee Tytoons.

603
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: I think that the entire room is feeling differently about

604
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Speaker 1: the Titans because they're not the Tytoons. Let's see, all right,

605
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: but there's OPTI said the same exact thing last uh May,

606
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: that we should not call him the Tytoons anymore. And

607
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: then they went to and four last May, though we

608
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: didn't have a season season's worth of tape on Marcus

609
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: Mario starts a quarterback. If we're gonna kill other teams

610
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Speaker 1: for not having one, they have one, and he's extremely promising.

611
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Speaker 1: My question, he's already had two coaches? Did the Titans,

612
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Speaker 1: because we've discussed a lot of their roster moves. Is

613
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Speaker 1: there a phantom menace lurking here where you have gone

614
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Speaker 1: and settled for Mike Malarkey because they the reports were

615
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Speaker 1: so many coaches wanted to come in and be a

616
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Speaker 1: part of the Mariota Titans franchise now that they've refurbished

617
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Speaker 1: themselves at that position, and they settled for Malarkey without

618
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Speaker 1: even much of a search. Is it going to leave

619
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Speaker 1: a disaster down the road or two? And they realized,

620
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Speaker 1: wait a minute, just like the other teams, this isn't

621
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Speaker 1: a head coach that we can really go the distance with.

622
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Speaker 1: We have to make another change. Does that lurk as

623
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Speaker 1: a danger? Yes? Kind of a vague question. No, I mean,

624
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Speaker 1: I mean it's easy to forget because they did have

625
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Speaker 1: They've made some interesting moves this offseason, but we've forgot

626
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Speaker 1: that Malarkey's players did not play hard for him last year.

627
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Speaker 1: They tanked and they kept him in charge. So I

628
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Speaker 1: do worry about the coaching staff despite the additions they

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Speaker 1: made to their roster. I think I'm not some big

630
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Speaker 1: Mike Malarkey believer, but I am sold that their GM

631
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Speaker 1: and coach are on the same page, and it's a

632
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Speaker 1: page that helps Marcus Mariotta. I think that you need

633
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Speaker 1: a play action offense with Marcus Mariota. You need a

634
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: power running game, you need toughness, you need physicality, and

635
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Speaker 1: I think that all works. It's one hand washing the

636
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Speaker 1: other with the coaching GM, and I think that really

637
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Speaker 1: will help Marcus Mariota's development. Well the report and washing.

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Speaker 1: The reports were that they hired John Robinson in large

639
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Speaker 1: part because he was willing to take Malarkey, that he

640
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: had no say in the matter, and they looked for

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Speaker 1: a GM that that was okay with that. Are you?

642
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: According to most people, that GM just knocked the ball

643
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Speaker 1: out of the park in this drail. Yeah. It's the

644
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: number one draft class according to Lance Zerline. Uh is

645
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: good work. On the NFL media. It's certainly a deep class.

646
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: This is the most improved offense in the NFL in

647
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: my opinion. But you're i to answer your question mark,

648
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: You're not winning a super Bowl with Mike Mlarkey. You

649
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: know how we say, like, well, you're not gonna win

650
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 1: a super Bowl with Ryan Fitzpatrick. You're not gonna win

651
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: a super Bowl with certain quarter It's like Mike Malarkey

652
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: is never making it that far in the playoffs. If

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Speaker 1: the Titans ever get to the point that this roster

654
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Speaker 1: is good enough to take the next step, it'll be

655
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: with another coach. West. When you said that one hand

656
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: was washing the other in Tennessee, we're hinting out a

657
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: bathhouse situation on the Titans campus. I am not gonna

658
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: say anything disparaging about the state of Tennessee. Isn't isn't

659
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: one hand always washing the other. That's called washing your hands.

660
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: You're whing someone else's hand. Isn't that what I mean?

661
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: I think he's trying to say that Robin Cinema Larky

662
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: are just two piece in the one one hand washer

663
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: in the back. It's like a tandem bicycle. By the way,

664
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Speaker 1: underrated part of Japan is definitely the Bathhouses situation. Wait

665
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: what definitely times the thorn move? Jesus horrible visuals, Chris Wesley.

666
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Speaker 1: Let's talk a little Jacksonville Jaguars. Speaking of enticing teams,

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Speaker 1: If you look at this roster at the two thousand

668
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: fourteen season, we wondered how much longer Dave Colwell and

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Speaker 1: Gus Bradley have because send Derek Marks was your best

670
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: player and maybe Jonathan Cyprian could develop into an above

671
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: average starter. That's all you had on your roster at

672
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: the time. And since then they have picked up so

673
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: many new starters on both sides of the ball. Is

674
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Speaker 1: this the most improved roster in the league from the

675
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: end of last season two today? Yeah? Well yeah, because

676
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: you mentioned the Titans is having the most improved offense.

677
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: But I think that Jacksonville's offense was largely already there.

678
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: And to do what they've done on defense through a

679
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Speaker 1: combination free agency in the draft we mentioned on the

680
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: last show, I can't think of another team that did

681
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: that in one offseason on one side of the ball

682
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: on defense, specifically to go and it's you want to

683
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: hang in on one thing. You got Miles Jack when

684
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: everyone thought you'd have to maybe take him in the

685
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: first round. He was projected to Jacksonville in the first round.

686
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: That is called a coup data, a bloody takeover of

687
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Speaker 1: the a f C South. WHOA, you could have six

688
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: new starters out of a left Yeah, I was trying

689
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: to count them up. I think I think you have

690
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: six is probably the expectation at this point. You have

691
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: gips in Ramsey jack, Malik Jackson, and Donte Fowler. It's

692
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: got a click, though that doesn't always working football stuff.

693
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,959
Speaker 1: But that's also why Gus Bradley needs to produce right now.

694
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: He was brought here as an architect of all time

695
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: great defense in Seattle. Now he has pieces. There are

696
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: no more excuses for Gus Bradley. So he needs to

697
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: find a way to make these guys work immediately. And yeah,

698
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: it won't be easy, I do it must be a

699
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: little more worried about the offense taking a small step back,

700
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: if anything, just because it's a lot of young players

701
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 1: and you're just expecting, Okay, now, we're good, We're good there.

702
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: We have blake boarders. We have Greg Olsen as our

703
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: coordinator has been there for a little while. Like if

704
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Speaker 1: they can maintain. I think the defense will improve to

705
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: average at the very least, and they were one of

706
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 1: the worst. And no one else is concerned that thirty

707
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: seven percent of Blake Bortle's numbers came in garbage time

708
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: last Well, what other option does he have? Either they

709
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: come in garbage time, which was of the time they

710
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 1: were on the field, or they don't come in garbage time,

711
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: which would be much more concerned about him. If you

712
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: want to look on the bright side, Chris Ivory gives

713
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: you a really good red zone weapon you didn't have

714
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: last year. The offensive line, you've got a new left

715
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 1: tackle with Kelvin Beecham, and you've got Brandon Linder, who

716
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: was their best offensive lineman missed most of last year.

717
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: You welcome him back. The offensive line should be pretty

718
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: much improved. By the way, we know they're listening to

719
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: DJ and Jacksonville when they take Brandon Allen, which was

720
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: their third string quarterback and was DJ's pet project throughout

721
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Speaker 1: this whole draft. B DJ has got sway. There's there's

722
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. DJ has got sway. By the way, Um,

723
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: you know that's been a tough You know, a couple

724
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: of decades for the Jaguars. But I don't know if

725
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: you guys saw it was a viral thing yesterday. Uh,

726
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: we have a new face of the Jaguars, and it's

727
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: this woman. This is what she thought about the Jack's

728
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: new direction. Oh, we've been strong. We're just playing by

729
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: the rules. You can't have a newcomer come in and

730
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: steal a show. By the way, she's referring to the

731
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Speaker 1: nineteen nine five Jaguars that like raced into the a

732
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: f C playoffs quicker than people expected. That that's what

733
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: she's been talking about before. She says, still the show.

734
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: She looks into the Cameron steals your soul. It's very

735
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: interesting basketball w j x T in Jacksonville. By the way, basketball,

736
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Speaker 1: they have the irrational confidence. Guy. That woman had the

737
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 1: most irrational confidence of any woman I've seen on video.

738
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Speaker 1: The Houston Texans gentlemen with the additions of Lamar Miller,

739
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: brock Oswaller. And then they go in the draft and

740
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: they get Will Fuller, Uh, the wide receiver that our

741
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. They at Braxton Miller, another wide receiver in

742
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: the third round. Their second round pick is a center, uh,

743
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: Nick Rtin Martin who's a top guy interior blocker in

744
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: this draft? Should Houston now be a favorite for UH

745
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: conferences most improved offense? With all these new pieces, I

746
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: think the Titans are the most improved offense, but you

747
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: could argue Houston. I think that's their direct competition for

748
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: that hypothetical award. Everyone's improving, and they're all playing each other.

749
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough for them all to get a

750
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: better record. The difference to me is I I fully

751
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: believe a hundred percent in Marcus Mariotta, and I'm a

752
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: skeptic when it comes to Brock Oswailder. That's why I

753
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: don't consider the Texans quite the most improved. Well, I

754
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: do believe in Bill O'Brien. I think that he's finally,

755
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: for the first time in the NFL, has a chance

756
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: to roll out an offense. It doesn't have, you know,

757
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 1: eighteen running backs that are under you know, under par

758
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: at a quarter. You've got You've got Ryan Mallett and

759
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer. If Oswiler can be if you can stay

760
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: on the field for sixteen games or in a much

761
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: better situation than they were last year, I'm wondering because

762
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 1: they paid brock osweilder star quarterback money. I'm wondering how

763
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: much they put on his plate. Are they gonna ask

764
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: him to perform that way or are they going to

765
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: make this a real uh run oriented attack. Will be

766
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: interesting to see how this offense looks. I think it's

767
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: harder to rebuild an offense and is to rebuild the defense,

768
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: and the numbers support that that you can turn around

769
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: a lousy defense faster than it usually is to become

770
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: like an elite offense. You have you don't need a

771
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: quarterback on defense, right, So you have a new quarterback

772
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: in a in a slightly different system, a new running back.

773
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: You got these two rookie wide receivers. I mean they

774
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: had a rookie wide receiver they like last year to

775
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 1: Jalen Strong, he showed how tough it is to adjust

776
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: to the NFL level. Now he's getting replaced Will Fuller

777
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: as a guy a lot of people didn't like. I'm

778
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: not some expert, but people thought he might be a

779
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: one dimension People wanted Josh Dotson, a burner type, and

780
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: so who knows. Do I really expect this offense to

781
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: be that much better? Not I mean a little bit better,

782
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: but I don't expect it to be better than average.

783
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: In particular, he can't hide Austin. You don't pay that

784
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: money us for the highlight. I don't care about run

785
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: heavy offense. I mean the Cowboys are two years ago,

786
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,959
Speaker 1: whereas run heavy as you get and without Roman making

787
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: key throws, the screwed. And it should be said that

788
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: Will Fuller. While that wasn't a universally lauded decision, they

789
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: were the first of those three teams in to pick

790
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: a wider suit. So they picked the guy that they

791
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: wanted after Cullman went off the board. Uh so you

792
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: know they got who, They got their guy. We'll see

793
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: if it was the right pick. Well, if he's compared

794
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: to Deshan Jackson, don't forget that. DeShawn Jackson let the

795
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: NFL on fire as a rookie, and they they opened

796
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: with three of four first games at home, and those

797
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: games against the Bears, Chiefs and Tight. It's not a

798
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: bad opening slate. They do have a at Foxborough in there.

799
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: Greg the forgotten team of the AFC South, the Indianapolis Cults.

800
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: No team with Andrew Luck should be so forgot. Let's

801
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: say it's deserved, but nobody's talking about them. So Ryan

802
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: Grigson did the thing that the Rams did last year,

803
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: and they just drafted one position. They drafted four offensive

804
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: lineman like the Rams drafted five offensive lineman last year. Uh,

805
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: including their supplemental pick, So they got two people to

806
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: protect the Andrew Luck. But my question is, does it

807
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: even matter if they have no one rushing the passer?

808
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: Who is gonna stop anyone on this Colts defense. It's

809
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: a good question, and it's a fair question because Ryan

810
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: Grigson sat there at the combine and told us our

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Speaker 1: number one goal is to get a pass rusher. Did

812
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: they get one in free agency? Did they get one

813
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: in the draft? I didn't. I didn't see any major

814
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: pass rushers going to India. You're exactly right. I mean

815
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Speaker 1: it's listed. Is the number one thing that they did

816
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: not address, and I guess there's other ways to get

817
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: to that. In a great article today by the Mark Sess,

818
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Speaker 1: I actually did not mention them because, I, like Dan mentioned,

819
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: forgot that the cults exist, and now I'm now reminded

820
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: that they that they are a team in a division

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Speaker 1: and they are here with us. Here's the direct quote

822
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Speaker 1: from Greg bomb As Mark would call him and the

823
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Speaker 1: g M summit, this is Greg bomb bomb Now. I

824
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 1: feel like we need to build that defense. I feel

825
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: like we have a lot of really good pieces on offense. Well,

826
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: flip side. If he goes and adds a bunch of

827
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: defensive ends and outside linebackers and they don't trout an

828
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, we are frying him right now because they've

829
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: needed that for age. So so everyone loves the Ryan

830
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: Kelly pick. Who's the center. If he's your starter and

831
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: a quality starter, obviously that that works out. They loaded up.

832
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: That's just where they saw the value is. I'm not

833
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: killing the draft as much as I'm killing this is

834
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: their front seven. Lankford, David Perry, Arthur Jones, Eric Walden,

835
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: to Quell Jackson, Nate Irving, and Rob Math thiss Or Coal.

836
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Speaker 1: That is one of the worst front sevens in football. Absolutely,

837
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: and this team. Chuck Began is supposed to be a

838
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: defensive guy and he's had to blitz heavily to generate

839
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: a pass for us since he's been an Indie. And

840
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: it's interesting Griggson, this defense, I keep thinking of, Man,

841
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: they have not done a good job. It's been very mediocre.

842
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: I think it's going the other way. It's going from

843
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 1: mediocre to you know, maybe one of the worst. I mean,

844
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: you have Vante Davis, but after that, you do not

845
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: have any guy that screams above average starter. They had

846
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: a lot of needs. I don't like their backfield either.

847
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: I mean, unless you're sold on another year of Frank

848
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: Gore absolutely tearing it up, I don't see that happen.

849
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta one. Mark always tries to get

850
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: his gore shot, and gotta get the gore shot. Of

851
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: the strategy that will be taken with this roster when

852
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: the new coach and new and GM are in control

853
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: next spring, Oh sorry, I just don't think it's a

854
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: good fit. Moving on to the a f C West finally,

855
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: last division will start with the Sizzler. The Oakland Raid

856
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 1: has well. The Raiders are another one of these teams

857
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 1: that you know, there's a lot of optimism around here.

858
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: They just like Griggson talked about getting pass rush. You

859
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: heard both the coach and the GM in Oakland talk

860
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: about the fact that we need to get another running back.

861
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 1: We want to be a run based team. We want

862
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,919
Speaker 1: to beat people up. Latavius Murray was two overused last

863
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: season and fell off some of his production, you know,

864
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: yards pre carried from the year before. So they wait

865
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: till the fifth round. They get DeAndre Washington, which I

866
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: learned on Twitter from some very angry Raiders fans is

867
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: apparently the next Adrian Peterson in waiting. But he's five

868
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: foot eight and compared he's a tough runner, compared more

869
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: in the Brandon Oliver mode. With Taiwan Jones, Royal Oo

870
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: and George J. Atkinson behind Murray, had they done enough

871
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: to solidify the ground game that Del Rio said was

872
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 1: so important to this Raiders offense. It's a fair question.

873
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: And I also heard good things about DeAndre Washington, uh

874
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: that that a lot of people liked him. But I

875
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: thought going into this offseason that was probably their biggest

876
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: need on offense. I don't trust Latavius Murray is the

877
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: number one guy. I think he runs too upright, and

878
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: I don't think he has great lateral agility. So I

879
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: would like to see a kind of a tandem partner.

880
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: Who is the better half of it in Latavia's Murray

881
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 1: maybe the lesser half of them. I agree with all that,

882
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: And yet, if you're gonna be weak somewhere running back

883
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 1: with Murray, and it's like, Okay, that's not a great position.

884
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna be weak somewhere and you're behind

885
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: a good offensive line, they're counting on it. You know,

886
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: West you think it is one of the best in

887
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: the entire league there into then you then you think

888
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: you're like the Cowboys last year, and maybe you can

889
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: just get by like the Cowboys did with that running game,

890
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: you know, because you have such a good offensive line.

891
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 1: I don't think the offense is gonna be any problem.

892
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: I think it's the other side of the ball that

893
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: would be having some issues. And I know Raiders fans

894
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: love what they've done. They pick up Reggie Nelson. I

895
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: am a huge fan of the Karl Joseph pick. Uh,

896
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 1: you pick up Bruce Irvan. But beyond Cleo Mack, who

897
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: who are your stars on that defense? Is it a rule,

898
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: by the way, in first rounds of draft that analysts

899
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: any big time safety comes off the board has to

900
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: be compared directly to Earl Thomas, Brian Dawkins, and Bob

901
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: Sanders every single year this range. He's hard hitting safety.

902
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: He really compares well to Earl Thomas, Brian Dawkins and

903
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: Bob Sanders. Well, I've never heard anyone compare. How how

904
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: often do you hear Bob saying Bob Sanders comes up

905
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: way more than he should. I'm telling you track it

906
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: next year. Ryan Dawkins is one of my favorite players

907
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: in the last twenty years. Dan, that isn't It is

908
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 1: a strange gripe, But I'm going to get on board

909
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: with you on that one. They just seemed to come

910
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: up a lot. I think we need a little a

911
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: few more safeties to be added in when it comes

912
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: to comparison. Sanders was Defensive Player of the Year one year.

913
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: That guy was and is one of the more random

914
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: d p O wise ever, because his career almost ended

915
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 1: after that. After That's how good he was. That's true.

916
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: Chris Westling the Kansas City Chiefs. Did you have something

917
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: else there? No? No, Well, even if he did, I

918
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: didn't want to. I was waiting for the horn Kansas

919
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: City Chiefs. Last year, in the second half of the season,

920
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: you had the Texans, Broncos, and Chiefs were the three

921
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: best defenses in the NFL. Since then, the Chiefs have

922
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: lost two starters from their secondary Sean Smith and Taiban branch.

923
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: They pick up a couple of cornerbacks in the third

924
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: and fourth round Kivery Russell and in Eric Murray. Do

925
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: you guys trust this secondary this year? Well, I look

926
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: what they did with the rookie cornerback last year. They're

927
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: they're they're well coached. That was a special player in

928
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: Marcus Peters. But the Chiefs, to me, if I want

929
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 1: to trust anything, it's the fact that they do seem

930
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: to keep plugging in new players. And I always underrate

931
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, and they always last year. I mean, please,

932
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: they deserve Yes, I was the only person and I

933
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: will take it on my back. Everyone else knew what

934
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: the Chiefs would do. But I don't feel like I

935
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: missed the mark on that one. They were boring and

936
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: they were just enough to win a one game in

937
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and nobody took them seriously. They were they

938
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: were a really good team for the last ten weeks

939
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: of the season. I mean they were a good team.

940
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: They were they were kind of that eight number eight

941
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 1: team in the Divisional round, the worst team that made

942
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: the division round. But that's pretty good. I mean, if

943
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: you can get to that spot. Philip Gaines uh towards

944
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: a C l and missed last year right and had

945
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: a good rookie year. So that is someone that's played

946
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: and played well for them that's coming back into their secondary.

947
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: I think their front seven is the key. I mean,

948
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: if the front seven is good enough, you don't have

949
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 1: to worry about the secondary. But we don't know can

950
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: Tom bout Lee do it again? Justin Houston's gonna miss

951
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: half the year. Are they going to be as big

952
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: a difference, you know as they were up front this

953
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: year in this defense the same It doesn't it doesn't

954
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: look as good. I mean, this is this is still

955
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: a tough team to get excited about, you know what

956
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: I mean. But they wouldn't surprise me if they gaps

957
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: between our conversation about them right now speak volumes. It

958
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me if they won that division. But again

959
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: I'd be shocked if they went far in the playoffs.

960
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: I think Andy showed he showed he's a good coach

961
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: again with what he did last year. It's still not

962
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: a roster that gets you overly excited, but it's pretty deep.

963
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: I will say this because West you might get some

964
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: heat on Twitter. I think they won ten arrow and

965
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: then shut out a team on the road in the playoffs.

966
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: So they is a very nice season. So I just

967
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: think maybe we should give him a little more credit.

968
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: Probably blocked like of Chiefs and Jamal Charles Twitter, So

969
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: you're fine. I think they are who we thought they were,

970
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 1: the San Diego Chargers guys. And this one's simple, very simple. Uh.

971
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa could be a great player. A lot of

972
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: people think he's loaded with potential. Okay, Uh, but the

973
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: Bolts blew it by not prioritizing protecting their quarterback. Philip

974
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 1: Rivers true or false, Well, I don't think that's true

975
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: because if if they were healthy, they could have protected him.

976
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 1: They just if you have all these guys returning healthy

977
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: and they've proven to be solid starters, do you go

978
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: out and upgrade when you have other needs? I think

979
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: if you get King Dunlap back, Orlando Franklin back, d J.

980
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: Fluker back, all these guys who were injured last year,

981
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna be just fine. On the offense. Joey barks

982
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: they played pretty well for them last year. I don't

983
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: think it was a mistake because I think if you're

984
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: choosing at three, you're just choosing who could be the

985
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: biggest impact player. They weren't buying Stanley, they weren't buying Tunsil.

986
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: Apparently even before the video, it sounded like they were

987
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: not going to take. You gotta just take the guy

988
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: that you think a star, and they think Joey Bose

989
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: is a star. We'll find out. And it's not like

990
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: that's not a need. That is a major need for them.

991
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: Uh So you're right that the luck that they had

992
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 1: last year on the offensive line was just outrageously bad.

993
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: I mean, they they went with the player they thought

994
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: was the best at number three. I think it was

995
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: surprising to most people. So Tom to LESCo, you know,

996
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 1: last season not a huge, roaring success for Tom to LESCo.

997
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: He's got to hit on that draft pick because that

998
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: coaching staff in front office are gonna be under a

999
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: lot of fire if suddenly the team is changing cities

1000
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: a year from now and a bunch of other stuff,

1001
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: and you want to start from scratch. Anything else to add, gentleman,

1002
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 1: see a good place for the horn right there? Well,

1003
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 1: now I will I'll throw on more. Ladarius Green was

1004
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: supposed to be the Antonio Gates uh successor now they

1005
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: got Hunter. Henry loved the name called him Henry Hunter

1006
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: the other night, but now I'm aware of his very

1007
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen name, Like I'm surprised that's not

1008
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: someone in my daughter's preschool class. It probably is, well,

1009
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: hopefully not. He's in his twenties. Henry Hunter, on the

1010
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: other hand, sounds like a Southern Gothlic novelist, a Southern

1011
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: A lot of Hunters out there, not into names where

1012
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: time people get the order wrong because that you just

1013
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: logically would not put Henry is the last name, that's

1014
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: where you put the horn. The next team and a

1015
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: big hunter, Henry Fair. I love that guy. I want

1016
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: to keep talking about him, but we can't because the

1017
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: horn blew. Greg the Denver Broncos, the world champions, Oh

1018
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: the world happen it up? Champions. When do you guys

1019
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: expect Paxton Lynch to start for the Denver Broncos? One, yeah,

1020
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: I go, I go about the same. Haven't we learned

1021
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: this by now? Which just he's gonna red shirt is

1022
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: not come on? This is and ioways the guys playing

1023
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: week the Broncos will be on that I would take

1024
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: will be two and three and Mark Sanchez will be

1025
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 1: coming off an egregiously bad primetime game and they will

1026
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: pull the trigger and probably early to mid October, but

1027
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: it won't be weak one. Well, we put so much

1028
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: pressure on Kubiak and on Lynch, a guy who everyone

1029
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: thought was the guy that needed to take more time

1030
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: coming out of You know what puts pressure on you.

1031
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez throwing three interceptions a week. I mean, he's

1032
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: going to do that in the third week at the

1033
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: preseason and that race will be over. But you know,

1034
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: but we can't criticize John Elway for how he has

1035
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: handled the quarterback room. Well, he trafted someone that's gonna

1036
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: come in and we'll see be a rousing addition to

1037
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: the team on offense. I'm sorry they didn't keep Brock

1038
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: unitedst bench for the washed up version of Peyton Manning

1039
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: and everyone acts like he's the key to the Broncos season.

1040
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: I don't know why this topic always gets everyone fired up.

1041
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: I should have asked more. I should have asked where

1042
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: when will DeVante Booker be starting at running back? People?

1043
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: All people, what does that even mean? Starting running back? Well,

1044
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: it sounds like he could be passing old C. J.

1045
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:05,919
Speaker 1: Anderson or at least no I gotta actually watch him play.

1046
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 1: But they they love them some DeVante Booker, hey top.

1047
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: Nobody loves fourth round running backs like Bok. How about

1048
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: fullback fullback out of Nebraska Andy Janovic. Maybe he could

1049
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: be your new version of Toby Gerhardt. Gotta look deeper

1050
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: into that. I've done a lot of work. I've also

1051
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: got a lot more work to do. I'm telling you.

1052
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 1: Elway and the quarterback pick of obviously the most important

1053
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 1: by far, But he's got to start hitting some doubles

1054
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: and singles with these draft picks. He's he's talked about it,

1055
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: that the that once these guys like the Malik Jackson's

1056
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: where that he drafted really well early on start, you know,

1057
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: getting to free agency like von Miller and everything. You

1058
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,959
Speaker 1: gotta keep that, keep that train going. And he hasn't

1059
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: done it for three years. It's also a good luck

1060
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: Justin Simmons also picking like twenty eight through thirty second

1061
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: year after year. I mean, it's not the same game

1062
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,240
Speaker 1: down there. That's fair. That's a that's a fair point.

1063
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: But he's gotta he's gotta hit on his second and

1064
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 1: third and fourth and get some get some singles. That's all. Well,

1065
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: he needs to hit on that to turn the roster

1066
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 1: and keep them atop the a f C West. He

1067
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: doesn't need to hit on that for job security. No,

1068
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: he needs to do it to just keep winning Super bro.

1069
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: I mean, the Broncos have established they're either in the

1070
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: top five in the league or they're going to be disappointed.

1071
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: That's the kind of team there. There, you go around

1072
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 1: the a f C and forty eight minutes. Great job, guys,

1073
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: I think it really was forty eight minutes too well,

1074
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: he kind of boiled. I mean, Brandon had that thing

1075
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: right down to a well, actually I I did it.

1076
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 1: But all right, so no, I don't want to take credit,

1077
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: but brand you know, a great job. But let's you know,

1078
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to take credit, but I would like

1079
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: to take credit. I don't. I'm not. I wasn't gonna

1080
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: take credit, but then once it was given to someone else,

1081
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna then sit on my hands and zip

1082
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: up my lips. There. Yeah, can I just mention about

1083
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: our special guests without saying who it is? I just

1084
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 1: got a tweet directed at the four of us. It says, hey,

1085
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be on your podcast fourteen minutes ago.

1086
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: What's going on over there? He spent the past fifteen minutes,

1087
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 1: single handingly trolling Dan Hansus on Twitter what is wrong

1088
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: with us? And then I hear I like this one.

1089
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: He also writes the only name you can trust in

1090
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: sports journalism Colon Mark Seessler. Well, by the way happen,

1091
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: He's actually on the line right right here, buddy, Who

1092
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: is it? Mr? Rack? Well? There he is. You know

1093
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: you know exactly who it is today. So this is

1094
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: Spice Rack and hans who waits two months after his

1095
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: Vegas trip, thinking I'll forget about what really happened? What

1096
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: did happen? What happened? I don't remember? It's not I

1097
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 1: would listen. Let me before you go on. Let let's

1098
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: just set this up for you. I lose a lot

1099
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: of credibility. Can I just let me just set this up?

1100
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: Spice Rack, just be quiet a second. Spice Rack is West's,

1101
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: Please be quiet. Spice Rack is West's Desert Consigliaria and

1102
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: all matters in the draft he works at. Are we

1103
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: allowed to say where you work? Spice Rack? About? Okay,

1104
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: I don't remember what is it is? Marquis Nightclub, Marquis

1105
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: Nightclub and Spice there you go? He is? So you're

1106
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,439
Speaker 1: saying you set up Dan with all sorts of free

1107
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: stuff and he doesn't even remember it. No, no, no, no,

1108
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 1: Greg Hey, hey, Sticky Davis, stay out of it. Spice

1109
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: Rack did a great job. He he hooked up me

1110
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,240
Speaker 1: and my three buddies at the rooftop of this pool.

1111
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: Uh at his hotel. We even there was a Russell

1112
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: Wilson sighting and and Spice Rack was lording over the

1113
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: whole thing. And I listen, we try to get you

1114
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: on the show. It's very tough to get you on

1115
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: the there's a lot of stuff going on with the draft.

1116
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 1: One time, West, what alright? West? Uh, it's a privilege,

1117
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: not a right, spice Rack West? Did I or did

1118
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: I not? About two weeks ago? I agree completely. I

1119
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 1: agree completely as Spicy, can you come in on Monday?

1120
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: And he mden hod and told us it wasn't it

1121
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,479
Speaker 1: wasn't the best time. That's true. I think he went

1122
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: underground for like an hour or two. We couldn't get

1123
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: ahold of him. We didn't know if he could enter

1124
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,959
Speaker 1: the plans that day or not. Gotta get on the train, Spicy,

1125
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 1: But guess what you're here now? And after what happened

1126
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: with the Chargers, last year, Melvin Gordon, Uh, you know

1127
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: you put pushed all your chips to use a Vegas

1128
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: metaphors to the center of the table and said, this

1129
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: guy is gonna be an all pro talent upon entering

1130
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 1: the league. Essentially didn't work out. But nobody bats a thousand.

1131
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: Nobody bats a thousand. So now we're gonna give Spice

1132
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: rack who knows his stuff, by the way, and I

1133
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: did when we were on that on that rooftop, we

1134
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: talked a lot of sports. Spicy knows what's going on.

1135
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: He's plugged in, and West knows that for a fact.

1136
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: That's how he would not but my desert consigliaria if

1137
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: he didn't know his sports exactly. So he will not

1138
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: let us, uh and the audience and himself down again.

1139
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: He's gonna hit some home runs right now and tell

1140
00:55:55,600 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: us UH three sleeper home run pick from the NFL draft,

1141
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: get a skill and Spicy, I gotta tell you, I

1142
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,720
Speaker 1: didn't listen to a thing you said the last ninety

1143
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: seconds or so. I want to be very clear, very clear, uh,

1144
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: with my message here. It's a sincere apology. Uh, Mr

1145
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: Nick van Exel. On my last appearance here, I didn't

1146
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 1: mention his name, which is ridiculous. You know, he happens

1147
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: to follow me on Twitter, which is the big deal.

1148
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: The former he deserves as much and I don't care.

1149
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 1: So if you say I can talk about whatever I want,

1150
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 1: that's really what I'd like to talk about. I mean,

1151
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: I have I have sleepers, though I have sleepers, spicy,

1152
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: I like you, alright, give us three more? What sleep

1153
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: did I give you? Nick van Exel, he's a sleeper

1154
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: seventh pick overall? Are you kidding me? One of my

1155
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: favorite athletes in Cincinnati history. The Lakers guard for people

1156
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,439
Speaker 1: not fans of the sport of basketball. Alright, First, forget

1157
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: about his Nuggets career. Alright, experiencing that with the Maverick,

1158
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: You've now used up enough time where we only have

1159
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: time for two NFL sleepers. Let's hear your first time.

1160
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: Some of your podcasts are an hour seventeen a summer

1161
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: forty three minutes. We have we need to cram in us,

1162
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: like a sports update or a news update. Yeah, flash

1163
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: coming up and bumping up against it. First NFL prospect,

1164
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: that's a Steel coming out of Chicago. I don't know

1165
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: if I want to play this game. What what have

1166
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: you been up to today, that you are in an

1167
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: ordinerary mood. Why would you not want to give the sleepers?

1168
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: I'll bet you know. I don't want to keep going

1169
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:54,479
Speaker 1: back to this hands, this thing. But he's the source

1170
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: of a lot of it. So you feel all right,

1171
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: let's break this down. Then we're obviously not going to

1172
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: get any sleepers. Let's break down the issues. All right,

1173
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead. Maybe we can work out our

1174
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: issues offline, and you could tell us why you are

1175
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: known as West's desert consiguliaria. Give us somebody that you believe.

1176
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: I appreciate you acknowledging that we do have problems. We do.

1177
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: Please give us some sleepers. It's like waiting to get out.

1178
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: How about Scott trade the insurance? Where is he? Where'd

1179
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: he go? Well that's a good call back. Now my

1180
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: dogs upset. This is a bizarre strategy. Don't you know

1181
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: what you're doing. You're filibustering because you lost your confidence

1182
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: because of what happened with Melvin Gordon. Isn't that what

1183
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: it is? Yes? Or no? I see what you're doing.

1184
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: Handsas you manipulator. You're baiting me into picking you know,

1185
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: Miles Jack or something like that. Give us. We're baiting

1186
00:58:55,400 --> 00:59:01,439
Speaker 1: you into content because you're I was full of content. Well,

1187
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: we try, we try, We did jam a lot, and

1188
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: we're angling round the n F and Sessler guy. I'll

1189
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: say that I'm a settler guy. Next time, I might

1190
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: demand a one on one listen. I like, I appreciate

1191
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:14,919
Speaker 1: the tweet that you sent out calling me the only

1192
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: name you can trust in sports journalism, but I think

1193
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: we can trust you too. Where are you getting these

1194
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: demands you like the Sam Bradford of podcast list podcast, Well,

1195
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: because I have accumulate Twitter followers every day. All of

1196
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: them have like sixth or eight followers themselves, and they

1197
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: follow people although they claim to be a college scale

1198
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: as raft guru, et cetera. So the Spice Rack has

1199
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: his agent calling different radio shows proclaiming that you should

1200
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: be seen as an everyday podcast. Um, this is your

1201
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: last chance, now, spice Rack, to give us a player

1202
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: that you believe in this draft that nobody else is

1203
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: really talking about. I'd say Jonathan Williams running back, fifth round, Bills,

1204
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: crowded House and Buffalo. That's interesting. Tell us why, because

1205
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna light it up day one. The same reason

1206
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: why Melvin Gordon is still uh no, you know he's

1207
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 1: still on the bollardst give up the ghost of Melbourne Gorge.

1208
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: I would and Gordon could have a good career. It's

1209
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: not it wouldn't be that shocking. We're talking about what

1210
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: to say that both guys were coached in college by

1211
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: Brett b. Lama, which is scary. So why do you

1212
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: see this guy as somebody who could really become a

1213
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: real player in the league. Missed all he missed all

1214
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: of last year, uh like five twenty blast in the past.

1215
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: He reminds me a lot of Marty's clarette. Um, all

1216
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: have fallen forward in the world. Listen, I'm just talking

1217
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: about running ability. Anyone thinks Marty's claret wouldn't have been

1218
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: a stun kind of wasn't watching. Yeah he was a

1219
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: knuckle head either a great a knucklehead. But all right,

1220
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: So there you go, Jonathan Williams running back. Do you

1221
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: want to fit? Do you want to throw two out

1222
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: quickly just so you can, you know, increase your chances

1223
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: of a maybe look at yourself in the mirror, maybe

1224
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: compared the next guy to Cecil and Diesel Collins last

1225
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: one spicy? Do we lose him. I think we lost

1226
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: Spicy apparently good on my end, it was him. He

1227
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: didn't want to get hung up on so he Dan.

1228
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: I think it was when you go, all right, there

1229
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: we go, and I heard him say something like all

1230
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 1: right there I go, and I think he just bounced him. Yeah.

1231
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you, just too much going on with

1232
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: with the intonation that something happened between you? What happened? What?

1233
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: What was it? A? What was he offended? Are you

1234
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: telling I mean, are you telling me you think that

1235
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: spice Rack is making complete sense and everything that he No, No,

1236
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: that's not my That's not what I'm saying. But he

1237
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: was strong out of the gate and sticking to something

1238
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 1: going on between the two of you. Maybe it was

1239
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: just playful. I just he just hung up on the

1240
01:01:55,560 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 1: show and then immediately tweeted at Dan Burn he showed

1241
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 1: us bounce this is unhealthy, this story he has with you.

1242
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying it. I love everything about it. We had

1243
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: a great time in the desert. I think maybe he

1244
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: was a little miss myth that took this long for

1245
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 1: him to get on the show. After he hooked me

1246
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: and my buddies up with three drinks I hope, I

1247
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: hope we can work past it. But there is a level.

1248
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: You know, you can't disrespect the show either. You don't

1249
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 1: hang up on the heroes we have. Hanging up was

1250
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 1: the least of the concern. Bring him on to talk

1251
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 1: about the draft, and he won't. He refuses to talk. Man,

1252
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 1: that was a lot of work to get out a

1253
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: fifth round running back and Arkansas. I have heard some

1254
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: buzzing Jonathan Williams there that they could be fun from

1255
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 1: spice Rack three months ago when we had him on,

1256
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: And that's a guy you talked about. Well there you

1257
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: go another exciting I mean, you can't say it wasn't eventful.

1258
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: Well that hastened another appearance by the Spice Rack. Perhaps

1259
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: I think we have to get together in a conference

1260
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: room with some croissans and some coffee and some bagels

1261
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 1: and talk about whether Spice Rack is the type of

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Speaker 1: guy we want on the show. Is he a character

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Speaker 1: concerned at this point after what happened today, I think

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Speaker 1: he's a locker room weirdo. Maybe he should we hang

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Speaker 1: up on him because he hung up on us. Uh

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Speaker 1: put down the chisels, Brandon that that was a callback

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Speaker 1: him hanging up because I've hung up on him every

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Speaker 1: appearance so far. Okay, see that's all right. See I

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Speaker 1: don't know that. I wasn't here for that. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I pick up the chisel. I was there for each one,

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Speaker 1: and I don't remember that at all. Oh yeah, that

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Speaker 1: was his trademark always. Thanks for paying attention to the show,

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Speaker 1: Greg Um, all right, that's it for today's show. Good show, eventful. Show.

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Speaker 1: Didn't have a good point that sometimes the show goes

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Speaker 1: an hour seventeen and sometimes it goes forty three minutes.

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Speaker 1: Well we don't just block in, you know, an hour

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Speaker 1: twenty three if there is an entertain people with We

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Speaker 1: had Sweeney Murdy in Flash, we're bumping up against it.

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Speaker 1: We had to throw to it. It's absolutely right. That's

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Speaker 1: that's broadcasting. Dan. We'll be back Thursday with another great

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Speaker 1: draft draft look back around the NFC and forty eight minutes.

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Speaker 1: So thank you to everyone to listen. Thank you Um,

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Speaker 1: despite the appearances or how it sounded. Thank you Spice

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Speaker 1: Rack for calling us. But we will have to discuss

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Speaker 1: internally whether you'll be back. Uh, we'll see what happens. Uh,

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Speaker 1: So yes, we'll back Thursday. Thanks for everybody, Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 1: This is Dan hands Is signing off for Quiet, storm Man, Spicy,

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Speaker 1: the mailman that's shaking his head, the Boss, and the

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Speaker 1: Irishmen behind the glass because they say they have the

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Speaker 1: best draft in the entire NFL. Are you surprised to

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Speaker 1: hear that? Certainly the first year we took it to

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Speaker 1: the limit and I was in Miami with my new

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Speaker 1: beach house. Well, it was a couple of minutes from

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Speaker 1: the beach. It's been twenty years since then. We haven't

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Speaker 1: been too strong in the last few years. Oh, we've

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Speaker 1: been strong. We're just playing by the rules. You can't

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Speaker 1: have a newcomer come in and steal a show.