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Speaker 1: LaMotta of podcasting. I'm here with G. Moody whose last

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Speaker 1: Mouth I Am Rapp Reports Stereo podcast in prime time

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Speaker 1: prime time podcasting. Me and G. Moody, whose last name

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Speaker 1: Chauncey Billups is rocking with us on the I Am

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Speaker 1: just in ESPN commentator Chauncey Billups is rocking with us

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Speaker 1: on the Iron Rapports Stereo podcast. But first me and

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Speaker 1: name is Michael Rapp eight k A the Gringo man Dingo.

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Speaker 1: I'm here with G. Moody, whose last name rhymes with

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Speaker 1: It's in fact. Um, how are you? Mr Moody? Um?

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Speaker 1: My body is coming back. The eights are lessening. I

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Speaker 1: You feel like how how you used to feel when

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Speaker 1: you used to play basketball? Yeah? Yeah, I just had

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Speaker 1: this dude. We're gonna talk about how close he actually

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Speaker 1: Detroit Pistons with him, Rashid Wallace, Rip Hambleton's, Tayshawn Prince,

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Speaker 1: in his prime. Alright, So this is a fantastic episode.

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Speaker 1: Uh we missed a big shot. So listen, we talked

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Speaker 1: about this a couple of weeks ago. So my guy

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Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg, this fucking nerd. You know, we used to

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Speaker 1: call these guys eugenes. Right, get the fucking the back

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Speaker 1: of the line, asshole, you know, like you'd give these

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Speaker 1: And and now with all the computer and the tech

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Speaker 1: all that ship, these fux have taken over the world. Okay, fine,

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Speaker 1: you're smart. We're not the jokes on me, jack, Uh,

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Speaker 1: the the the gigs up right, we need we need

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Speaker 1: these fucking nerds to figure out how you know, how

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Speaker 1: We get our space. Uh. You know we'll be out

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Speaker 1: we got Stevie jobs, my man. Albert Einstein fantastic, fantastic

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Speaker 1: know that Albert Einstein was a freak? No? I didn't

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Speaker 1: I'm not quitting Facebook. If people want to find you

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Speaker 1: If you're online, you're done. It's not just Facebook. Facebook

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Speaker 1: people are quitting Facebook. This one's I'm not I'm not purchased.

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Speaker 1: they're like, I'm quitting Facebook. Why you may get a

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Speaker 1: big deal about it. Just quit, Just fucking quit. No, no, sorry,

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Speaker 1: people want to announce their quitting Facebook. Just quit Facebook.

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Speaker 1: Everything is in approachest. You're not that important. No one

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Speaker 1: cares you think you're hurting Mark Zuckerberg's pockets by using

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Speaker 1: I'm quitting Facebook, Mark Ziggery, don't give a funk about you, Duke.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't care about you. So yesterday all or everything

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Speaker 1: back nerd and hipster culture forever. This goofy dungeons and dragons,

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Speaker 1: little person. He's not like he's my man from Game

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Speaker 1: He's short, He's not short. This was his choice. We

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Speaker 1: You're a grown fucking man. I'm sure he's supposed to

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Speaker 1: your fucking nerd. I mean, why would knowing what you

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Speaker 1: a goon somebody to tell you that's not a good look, duke, Like,

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Speaker 1: Who is Chloe Kardashian. That's her man, that's her boo.

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Speaker 1: Tristan Thompson of the Cleveland Cavaliers. Videotape surveillance footage and

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Speaker 1: his boo, Chloe Kardashian three months pregnant. They had been

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Speaker 1: her revenge body and all that stuff. Well, Tristan Thompson

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Speaker 1: his boo, Chloe Kardashian was pregnant, kissing girl was grabbing

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Speaker 1: you fuck the door? Why would you fuck the dog?

417
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: Why would you fuck your girlfriend's dog? What sick fuck?

418
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: The sick funck of the Week. It's earned, earned, not giving.

419
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: You did what? No? No, no, yes, yes yes, that's

420
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Speaker 1: the sick Funk of the Week. Theme music crafted and

421
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 1: created by the Great G. Moody, who's last name rhymes

422
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: with duty um. The sick funk of the Week is

423
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: an award that is not given, is an award that

424
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: has earned not given Again. I am gonna pick just

425
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: three socially sick fox and I am going to post

426
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: it on Instagram, Twitter, and on Facebook, and I want

427
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: you the people to decide who Today's sikest sick fuck

428
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: of the Week is. First, coming out of the Great

429
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: state of Illinois, a former social worker is charged with

430
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: having sexual relationships with not one, No, Christie Lionheart had

431
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: sexual relationships were not one, but two mental patients, one

432
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: one of who she claimed she kept as her quote

433
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: unquote her quote unquote sex slave. Just like I said,

434
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: motherfucker's with helmets. Imagine your wife fucking with a guy

435
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: with a helmet. That's that's her. Man. I mean, I

436
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: heard of fetish, I heard of fetishes, but Godlee, Christie,

437
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: Christie Liner, fifty three years old, she had to sexual relationships.

438
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: She's a she's a social worker. This is a person

439
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: who's a social worker. She's there for social care, the

440
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: help of society. Social social the word comes from society. Social.

441
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: She's supposed to be helping people, she's socializing. Yeah, you're

442
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: not supposed to have him locked up and tied up

443
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: as sex slaves against their will. Christie Liner, she's gonna

444
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,479
Speaker 1: be hard to beat, Okay. And when you look at

445
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: the picture of Christie Lionheart Gerald, uh, take a guess

446
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: what she looks like. Let me take a while, just

447
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: just go out on a litting take a wild guest,

448
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, fill me in a sick fuck. Christie

449
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: Liner looks like a sick fuck. Number two, the second

450
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: sickest fuck of the week. A man was hospitalized, got

451
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: his ass beat in northern California, and I'm glad he

452
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: got his ask. This is what you're supposed to get

453
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: when you try to do some grimy ship like this.

454
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: At a California park, a man tried to grab a toddler.

455
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: A sick fuck tried to kidnap a toddler. He was

456
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: beaten brutally as he should be by the girl's father.

457
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: Good congratulations. Matter of fact, this guy talk about statues.

458
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: The father of this girl, he should get a statue,

459
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: no charges dropped. He shouldn't pay for a meal in

460
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: his neighborhood for the rest of his life. And this

461
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: sick fuck who was hospitalized, lock him to the fucking bed.

462
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: In the hospital that he's staying at. Send him to

463
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: prison and get him rebbed up and lined up for

464
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: that wonderbread bag treatment. That guy is a hero. That guy,

465
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: the guy is a hero. That's what you're supposed to do.

466
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: The courts. You stay out of it. This is a

467
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: vigilante streak justice. You can't beat you good day. He

468
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: beat him up. That's what you're supposed to be visibly

469
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: beating up after that, and then when the cops get there,

470
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: they should give you a little kick in the dick. Finally,

471
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: the third sick funk of the weekend, I gotta be

472
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: honest with you, Gerald. Alana Marie Limpert that's her name,

473
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: Alana Marie Limper years old. Normally, when I say wha,

474
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: what do you know what? Alana Marie Limbert looks like, Uh,

475
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: she don't look like a sick fuck. She's actually kind

476
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: of cute. But she's in Arizona. You know Arizona. The

477
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: either it's like, uh, it's like New Mexico. For some reason.

478
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: He's really hot states. They have drug problems. This mom

479
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:15,479
Speaker 1: was arrested after her toddler eight t h C laced

480
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: macaroni and cheese. This sick fuck had prepared herself some

481
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: macaroni and cheese. You know people like to cook with

482
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: the marijuan in it. This sick fuck made herself some

483
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: marijuana macaroni and cheese and fed it to her three

484
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: year old. Three year old almost died. Fortunately, uh the

485
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: three year old made it. Charges child abuse have been

486
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: filed against a Lana Limper, five years old of Arizona.

487
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: What the fund is you doing, Tempe, Arizona? You you

488
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: are spend some time in Tempy? Isn't that right? Mr

489
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: Moody Tempy? Yeah? I guess you could say, yeah, yeah, Tempy. Listen.

490
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that. Arizona this year has been the

491
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: hotbed of sick fox, but they are low key a

492
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: true hotspot for sick funck. So there, there we have it.

493
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: Those are the three choices. We have the social worker

494
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: who had not one, but two sex slaves. We have

495
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: a Lanna Marie Limbert, the macaroni and cheese marijuana cooker

496
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: who fed it to a child m hmm, her daughter

497
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: a th HC laced macaroni and cheese. And we have

498
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: the sick fucking Northern California who is now hospitalized and

499
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: being treated for injuries that he suffered while trying to

500
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: kidnap a girl out of a park. These are the

501
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: choices of the sick Fox of the Week. I also

502
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: want to say this isn't a sick Funk of the week,

503
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: but be careful, guys, be careful girls in the United Kingdom,

504
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: and I'm sure it'll make its way over here. Doctors

505
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: are calling it the worst ever case of gonorrhea. They're

506
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: calling it super gonaia. Man, the medical world said, we

507
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: warned you, but you didn't listen. There is a super

508
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: gun a rhea going around the United Kingdom. You think

509
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: it's all funny games when you're going raw dog without

510
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: a bag, well you might do it one too many

511
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: times with the wrong nasty dude or the wrong nasty chick.

512
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: Be careful people out there. And Richie Incognito, remember Richie Incognito.

513
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: He's retiring from the NFL. His liver and kidneys are

514
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: shutting down. I'm sure who would be getting a podcast

515
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: at Barstool Sports soon? All right, listen Iron Rapports stereo podcast.

516
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: It's in prime time. This is this is one of

517
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: the best guys to talk to about basketball. Okay, since

518
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: I consider him sort of a friend, my guy, Chauncey Billups.

519
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: Good dude, smart dude, talk shit cool. He will be

520
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: at some point running an NBA team. Just a good dude,

521
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: keeps it real, keeps it funky, fair. I love this dude.

522
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: They call him Mr. Big Shot. Coming up next on

523
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: the Iron Wrap Coors Stereo podcast, All NBA Everything. This

524
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: is a fantastic conversation with the former NBA Finals m

525
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: v P. My main man, Chauncey Billup. Coming up in

526
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: primetime on the Iron Wrap Hoors Stereo podcast. This is it.

527
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: This is the fucking this is it. You know my man,

528
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: Chauncey Billups. Call him Mr Big Shot, call him smooth.

529
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: You were the first basketball player that we didn't podcast,

530
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: but we were doing something for United States Basketball. You

531
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: had just you had just finished. I don't remember what

532
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: we were doing, and I was like, I was like

533
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 1: the first time I got to like really like sit

534
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 1: down and talk to somebody like about their career, like

535
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 1: deep dive. Like I remember we were shoot something. I

536
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: think it's at Staples or at the Forum, and I

537
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: got to ask you, like we shot the ship that

538
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: used some of it, but I was like I could

539
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: do this ship and it put like a thought in

540
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: my head about podcasts. So it's only right that was dope.

541
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: That was dope. That was dope. You had just just

542
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: I think finished playing. I mean I think you might

543
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: have played that season or the season before, and uh,

544
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: we got to sit down and we were just talking

545
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: about Boston, talking about the bad boys, talking about all

546
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: the players. It put in my head. So I appreciate

547
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: you coming rocking me on the podcast. Absolutely, been trying

548
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: to put this together for a while. We finally got

549
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: it done. Absolutely, man. So all right, we're heading into

550
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: the playoffs. After the playoffs, we got more important business

551
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: the Big Three, sir, Now are what have you been

552
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: doing to stay in shape? Where's your head at for

553
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: the Big Three participation? Because last year you were like

554
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: you were almost the gm M, you were rumored to

555
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: be a GM. You were playing, You had a little

556
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: injury in and out and all that stuff. Have you

557
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: been staying in shape? I was banged up last year,

558
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: but I had a hell of a time. Um this year,

559
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I plan on planing for sure. I have.

560
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: My meniscus was torn last year. Yeah, so I ended

561
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: up getting it cleaned up. Um, So I'm on the man,

562
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 1: but I'm doing good. But I'm looking for it's gonna

563
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: be this season is gonna be crazy. Season two, Big

564
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: three gonna be crazy. Yo. I'm tripping out because there's

565
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: gonna be like last year. I don't remember if you

566
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: were at the combine. There is that the combine, but

567
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: I left for the draft and you didn't have to

568
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: try out. But like this year, like there's gonna there's

569
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: nineteen spots. A lot of real dudes are not gonna

570
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: get picked on teams. It's gonna be some tough decisions

571
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: made this year. Man, It's gonna be some tough decisions

572
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 1: because I'm thinking, for real, I'm thinking it's probably gonna

573
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 1: be between eighty and ninety players combine and nineteen spots.

574
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: And these are eighty former pros who saw it last year.

575
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: A lot of the dudes are younger than some of

576
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: the dudes who came out last year. No one knew

577
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: what to expect last year. You know, some dudes hadn't

578
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: played ball. I was in better shape than some of

579
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: the dudes. There was a couple of tudes like I

580
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: was in better shape that and then some dudes are ready.

581
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: Some dudes like you know, it was interesting. It was

582
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: very interesting. But this year I can guarantee you it's

583
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: not gonna be a lot of people show up to

584
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: that combine out of shape. Bro, No, they know you.

585
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: And it was, you know, the thing that I got

586
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: to see from being around the players and when when

587
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: guys retired, you always hear it in every sport. I

588
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: missed the guys. I missed the locker room for that

589
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: one to three days over the long weekends, seeing you

590
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: guys have that. I understood when players say that now

591
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: like just like you guys having that stuff, like you

592
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: know that the camaraderie, and that's the thing. That's the thing.

593
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: And people asked me, all it's is long with everybody

594
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: else that's retired, is do you miss playing? No? I

595
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: don't miss playing, but I miss being around the guys.

596
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: I missed the locker room. I missed this. Now playing

597
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: is you can just go play. I can go to

598
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: any Jim and just play. Obviously the competition level will

599
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: be different, but it's it's the laughing and joking and

600
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: teasing and playing cards and that locker room feel that

601
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 1: one is over. That's the one thing you miss and

602
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: this that's what the Big Three is. It feels that

603
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: void for everybody. That's what I noticed. So last year

604
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 1: during the Big Three, it was is going to become

605
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: a GM Now in hindsight, First of all, I'll say

606
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: this for you. You you you missed the boat like

607
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: you did the Keano Reeves matrix because Cleveland is I mean,

608
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: who knows what's gonna happen. But how close were you

609
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: to really taking a job last summer and in the

610
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: way that you could share it, you know, because I

611
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: want to put you on you know, the spot and

612
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to rook you, like, well, look man,

613
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: it was it was good to be in a discussion. Um.

614
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: I got a long history with Dan Gilbert going back

615
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: to my Detroit days, so I was I was elated

616
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: that he's seen me in that, you know, in those lenses,

617
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: you know, as the president of his team, to run

618
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: the basketball operations department. That's something that I do have

619
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: a desire to do at some point. Um. I wasn't

620
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: chasing it last year, nor am I chasing it now.

621
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: It's just one of those things that I just feel like,

622
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: when when it's time, will happened. Who knows If that's

623
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 1: two years from now, four years from there, who knows.

624
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: But when it's time, it will, it will happen. Um.

625
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: But it was. It was a good exercise. It was

626
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: good to go through the interview. I learned a lot,

627
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: you know, an interviewing for that. There's a lot that

628
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: I don't know because I was on just on the

629
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: hoop side, not the business side of it. So there's

630
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: a lot. There's a lot to it wrapped that, um

631
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: that I was happy to get the experience of going

632
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: through it. When when you do that interview, like obviously basketball,

633
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: you understand that and and that that's like you speak

634
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 1: that like you breathe, like you sweat. But when you

635
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 1: say what you learned and and there's a lot to it,

636
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: what were some of the questions or the thoughts that

637
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: were putting your head that you'll know next time you

638
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: have more prepared or you have an understanding or what

639
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: they're expecting from a potential GM. Well if if if

640
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: you what you're doing is to me, you know, And

641
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: I've seen it done the right way, I've seen it

642
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: done the wrong way with GMS, with running the team,

643
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: with putting different personnel together. Um, I've seen it both

644
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: ways as a as a player. Um, So when you're

645
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,439
Speaker 1: talking about GM and I mean, I think the first

646
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: thing that you have to establish anybody and you take

647
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: over a team is what's going to be your identity?

648
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: Um what what kind of culture are you trying to set?

649
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: And what does that mean? And that means so identity.

650
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,720
Speaker 1: So you look at the top four or five teams

651
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: in the league, all the good teams, they have an

652
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: identity for the most part, or just a special special talent.

653
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: You look at sen Antonio, even though they're struggling this year,

654
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 1: they have an identity. They're gonna they're gonna move to basketball.

655
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: They're gonna play the right way. They're gonna share it,

656
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna share the rock. You know, they have an

657
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: identity every single time. You look at Houston right now,

658
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: their whole thing is they're gonna get up and down.

659
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: They're gonna outscore you. You know the Warriors, they play,

660
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 1: they play unselfish. They've got a lot of guys that

661
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: you know that are multitalented. They can switch picking rolls.

662
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: Like their identity is, they're gonna play hard defensively, but

663
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna have fun on offense. Um, you know, all

664
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: these teams really kind of have an identity. So when

665
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: you're taking the team over, you gotta stabs and say, okay,

666
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: who are we gonna be? And when you establish that

667
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: and you say, okay, these the kind of guys I like,

668
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: these kind of players that want to go after, tough, minded, whatever,

669
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: whatever it is, your identity will be. Only then is

670
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: when you can start to build your team. You know

671
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you have to obviously have your

672
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: way of thinking. And when you go in there and

673
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: sit across the table one of the owners, so do

674
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: you think is it like you said, it might be

675
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 1: a few years. You want the right situation because obviously

676
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: you know when you do it, you want it to

677
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: be something you do. You don't want to dip in

678
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: and dip out. Um like Fizdale, who I got to meet.

679
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: I love this fucking guy. He's working his whole life

680
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: the head coach. It's the wrong situation, the wrong thing.

681
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: I don't even know what the funk happened, but I

682
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: was like, this wasn't this wasn't right. This was some bullshit.

683
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: Somebody did some bullshit here, you know, And and like

684
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 1: his story was so fascinating to me, and it's not finished.

685
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: It's like I didn't come this way to be fucking

686
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: outside the first couple of weeks and the fucking season.

687
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: The fund is this ship, you know. And um, obviously

688
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: coaching GM is different. So do you can you imagine

689
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: seeing because I remember, I'll tell you this, I remember

690
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: when I first did sit down with you. Now you

691
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: were just finished retiring, you had just retired. You're like,

692
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: I definitely don't want to coach, you know, I'm probably

693
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: just you know, like I think you said, I got

694
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: my money, I'm good. I might do broadcast. I mean,

695
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: you you know, things change and now you're like, you know,

696
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: I mean, this is like a stressful job of gym.

697
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: Like do you actually see yourself like doing it? It's like,

698
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 1: is it something that you want to do? It is?

699
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: It is? Um, And look, I've never really had a

700
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: desire to coach. I felt like I was kind of

701
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: a coach on the floor. That's totally different. But do

702
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: I think I could do a good job. Sure I do.

703
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: I know what it takes to be a good coach,

704
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: just from playing from some great ones for some great ones.

705
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: But the front office thing is more of my personality.

706
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: It is more me um, I would you speak of

707
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: the Fisdale situation. I would like to be in a

708
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: position to run a team, hire a coach that I

709
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: know works for what we are doing in our culture

710
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: and our identity. Then you don't have those kind of

711
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: mix ups, you know, if you hire a guy that's

712
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: not right or you're not connected to or you're doing.

713
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: Let's just say, because everybody knows that the triangle, you

714
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: want the triangle and he wanted. Once those things are

715
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: out of sink, is there fixing it or is it

716
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: like this is like almost like it's like you're getting

717
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: married to that coach. Like you guys are in a

718
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 1: relationship and it's either gonna end with we're gonna keep going,

719
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: or we're gonna divorce, or somebody's walking away with the

720
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: money sake. It's well and to your point, rap, if

721
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: you know you're trying go your Phil Jackson and you

722
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: want a guy to run a triangle, will you go

723
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: get a guy that you know has run it. You

724
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: don't go get a guy that is running up and down.

725
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: Jeff Horner second in Phoenix and they're running up and

726
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: down scoring a hundred fifteen points a game. Pick and

727
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 1: roll cut pass bom and then say, you know what, Jeff,

728
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: I want you to. I want you to come here

729
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: and I want you to implement that try and go offense. Well,

730
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: that's not fair to him because one he didn't he

731
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily know it to teach it, nor does he

732
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: really necessarily believe in it, So that's not fair to him.

733
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: But then he ends up getting ken because you know

734
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: what I mean at some point, so you have to

735
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 1: be on the same got to be on the same accord, man. Okay,

736
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: so Cleveland specifically this tie loose situation. Now, you know

737
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: you don't want to see anybody a no matter of

738
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: game seven, game one, all starting and nothing is more

739
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: important than your health. Is what do you make of this?

740
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: And how is this going to actually affect this actual

741
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: Cleveland capitalism? This fucking guy Lebron. You know, I'm I

742
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: always break you, but I mean, he's unbelievable, un believable,

743
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,479
Speaker 1: And I don't want to say it's hard to say

744
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: who's better because I look at basketball players because a

745
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: team sport, it's better teams. But this dude's career might

746
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: be the best career because of the longevity and the

747
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: fact that he might play eighty two games this year,

748
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: and he's like, I mean, this is nuts, man, it is,

749
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: it really is. It's crazy and I'll break it. I'm

750
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: proud of you. I'm proud of Let me tell you something.

751
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you, Like I know how I listen.

752
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: I watched, I listened to everything you say. You've been

753
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: very critical of Bron. I'm proud of you, man. I'm

754
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 1: proud of you. Man. I mean the fact that right

755
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: the day Tyler goes down triple double, the fact that

756
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: he's doing it for so long and there's been no dip,

757
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: there's been no baseball, there's been no bad season, there's

758
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: been no real injury, no throwaway years yet not at all.

759
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's crazy. The guy, I mean, first of all,

760
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:28,720
Speaker 1: on the t Lou situation, who is like like my brother,

761
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: that's your guy, that's my that's like my best friend.

762
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: So you feel for him, and like you said, nothing

763
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: is more important than health, nothing, And he's been having

764
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: some issues kind of all year. Um. I've been behind

765
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: the scenes, honestly telling him to take that leave six

766
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: months ago, um, just to get his you know, just

767
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 1: to pay attention to his body and to his health

768
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: and to his body and spirit. Finally he's doing that.

769
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,479
Speaker 1: I'm proud of him. Um, he's gonna be just fine,

770
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: you know, God willing. But just think about a rap,

771
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: any little issue that you may have gone on from

772
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: a physical standpoint. You add the level of stress that

773
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 1: he has to deal with, not just being an NBA coach,

774
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: but coaching the calves, and of course it's it's it's

775
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: I mean, everything is gonna be you know, elevated everything.

776
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: So it's a tough deal. Um, but but he'll be fine,

777
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: and I'm happy that he's taking, you know, taking the

778
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: steps to get healthy. Man, can they I mean I

779
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 1: know the answer because Lebron James like anything is possible

780
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: with him, Like he's a fucking beast. So I mean, yes,

781
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: I'll answer the question, but I want to hear your opinion.

782
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: They can make it to the finals again with Tyler

783
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: without Tyler. I mean, but how many you know they

784
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: keep saying, well, they do good under Durest, like they

785
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 1: just cleared the damn roster. Then you clear the roster

786
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: sort of working but not really working. Then your your

787
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: coach goes down and Larry Drew, he's he knows what

788
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: he's doing. Like I know they have a system in place,

789
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: but how far do you think based on everything we

790
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 1: know right now, Kevin Loves back, Lebron's not stopping unless

791
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: he does stop. How far are they going to go?

792
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: I think that they will go, um, definitely to the

793
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 1: finals with coach lou. If they don't have Coach Lou Back,

794
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: with his game plan and scheming the things that he's

795
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 1: an expert at, Toronto could beat him. I really do

796
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: believe that Toronto could beat him. Um if they don't

797
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: have that that that leader on the head of that bench. Now,

798
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 1: Ld Larry Drews doing a good job. Been ahead, coach.

799
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,720
Speaker 1: This is a different animal. This is a different animal

800
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: with Lebron James in order turnover. Just looking right now,

801
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: Kevin Love comes back as a big game. He's never

802
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: played with George Hills starting point guard, Rodney hoods out,

803
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: Nance Junior is out. He never played with these guys.

804
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: So these guys don't know each other. Man, and now

805
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: it's not the time to be learning. Oh man, no,

806
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: So now is the time? Do you fine tune in right? Correct?

807
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: This is when you find tuning you're trimming your your

808
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 1: roster down, saying Okay, I'm gonna play these eight guys

809
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I'm in he this man, this is

810
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: like day in training camp, right, this is unheard. This

811
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: is tough. So without your head coach, rap who does

812
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 1: know the guys for the most part, all the due

813
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: diligence and all the vet and he's doing watching tape

814
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: and this and that, it makes it tough even for

815
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: Lebron James, even for him, Even for Lebron, I'm telling you,

816
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: all right, forget these dudes. Let's talk about you. Let's

817
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: talk about your career. Because it's funny. You know. It's

818
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: like when you're out of the league, you know, and

819
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: then we start to see you on TV, especially these

820
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: young there's young kids are like, oh this guy, Oh

821
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: he played ball, Yeah exactly. They don't know, they don't

822
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: have they got no idea, and it's just it's not

823
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,919
Speaker 1: that long ago. But it's like, you know, it's so quick,

824
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: you know, the way the way it thinks, it goes fast.

825
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: And then you're like this guy on TV, but you

826
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 1: played in a time like it wasn't that long ago,

827
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: but it feels so much different, like it was almost

828
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: like the the end of something, and like we're in

829
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: a new a new place. But let's just start with this.

830
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: You get drafted, and it's like, how many times are

831
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:09,919
Speaker 1: you traded? Man? I think five? I played on five

832
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: teams my first five years. Why was this happening? What

833
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: was going on? And like, were you ever just like

834
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: this isn't the dream in your hand? No, I'm telling you.

835
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 1: There was a point in time my my rookie years,

836
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: so drafted the Boston rick Portino and they ended up

837
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,479
Speaker 1: trading me. He I was having a good Rickie rookie

838
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: season too, which was crazy. The fans loved me. I mean,

839
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: it was, it was, it was I was really I

840
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: was shocked. But he traded me, saying, um, you know

841
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: that he just needed he wanted a more experienced point guard.

842
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: There's pressure on him make the playoffs. And he traded

843
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 1: me for Kenny Anderson, which I get Kenny, and Kenny

844
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: Abel was a bad boy, and you know Patino with

845
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: the New York thing. I mean, who wouldn't want to

846
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: coach Kenny? So all right now it's now it's business

847
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: that I'm like, damn, it's supposed to be a basketball

848
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 1: This is business for real. I thought it was, you know,

849
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: so I learned. Did you know, like when you but

850
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: the first time you got traded, do you find out

851
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 1: the day of or like do you hear memling internet?

852
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: To First of all, I heard rumblings the day I

853
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 1: got drafted. So I was a third pick. Ron Mercer

854
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: was the six pick. They were supposedly had to deal

855
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 1: together to send us both to Chicago for Pipping. Pipping

856
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: was trying to thinking about whatever, so that from day one,

857
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: as soon as I put that hat on, it was like, man, like,

858
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: they're probably gonna trade him to such and such, And

859
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 1: it went on until I didn't even I didn't even

860
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 1: played again, I didn't practiced yet, so that was weird.

861
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: Um but man, I'm telling you that was there was

862
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: a point in my rookie year and while I was

863
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: just like, man, this is I should have stayed in school. Man,

864
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 1: this is this the league, Like I've been all my

865
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: life praying for this and then this ain't this is cool?

866
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: This is I wish I would to stay this school.

867
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: I have more fun playing in college, you know what

868
00:51:53,520 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 1: I mean? Um, but man, like to there Patino and

869
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: all those teams to their defense wrap like I just

870
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: wasn't ready. Man, you know what I mean, I wasn't ready,

871
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: Like I was. I had some good games and stuff,

872
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,240
Speaker 1: but to run a team at the point guard position,

873
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: especially a team that's hoping to make the playoffs, I

874
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: just wasn't ready. Bro. Did you know that then or

875
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: like in hindsight, you you based on everything you know

876
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: now and that you you gathered as an m v P. Yeah,

877
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: my rookie year and my probably my first two years. No, No,

878
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: I didn't know that because I'm looking at guys that

879
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: was drafted right around me. That's I felt like I'm

880
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 1: better than that's. They get the ball in their hands,

881
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: they get to go ball out, they get to so

882
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: I felt I didn't get that same opportunity, but I was,

883
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 1: you know, put into different situations. But it didn't take

884
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: me long to figure out chance. You just gotta go

885
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: back to the drawing boy, man, like you can't get

886
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: your game off, Like you was like, these dudes are better.

887
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: You know. It took me about three years for that,

888
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: when the labin and things just kind of you know,

889
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: my luck and things just kind of changed for me.

890
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: But it was it was a tough little stretch for

891
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: a second. Did you start doubting yourself I never doubted

892
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: myself because I was always a hard worker. Um, but

893
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 1: one thing changed. You know, at some point you gotta

894
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: change from just working hard to working smart. So I

895
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: could be in the gym, you said, you said, what

896
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: it meant, I could be in the gym for three hours, right,

897
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: and I could be working on pull up jumper or this.

898
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: But those are things that I can already do. I

899
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: got you. Now, if I'm working smart, I'm working on

900
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: some things that I've been struggling at. I got you.

901
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So I can be in

902
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 1: there for an hour and a half now working smart

903
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: as opposed to three hours. I'm doing things that I've

904
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 1: been doing since I was eight. I already know I

905
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: can shoot. I got you. So just things like that

906
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,720
Speaker 1: that changed that ended up making me a better player.

907
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: I got you. You know, when you think back to

908
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: your your rookie season, your first season in Boston, your kid,

909
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,720
Speaker 1: what was your first moment of like I'm in the NBA.

910
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: It was it was very quick. First game, RAP played

911
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: against Michael Jordan's the first games. It was hilarous. We

912
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 1: played against Michael Jordan's the Bulls our first game and

913
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: I was coming off the bench at the time Um

914
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: came in played really well. But there was a funny time. Man,

915
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: it was a funny time during the game. So you know,

916
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: the team is shooting, uh Robman or one of those

917
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: guys shooting a free throw. You know, the guards line

918
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: up behind the three point line. So it's Steve Kerr, myself,

919
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: m J Ron Mercer. So the whole time, I can't

920
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 1: stop looking at him. Jay, I just can't stop staring

921
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 1: at this dude. So on the other side of him

922
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 1: is Ron Mercer. Right, We're both staring at this dude

923
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: and just forgot about the pretty much forgot about the

924
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: damn game. We just can't believe me on the court

925
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: with this guy. Man like you you caught yourself, and

926
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: you're like, yo, for sure, not only did I catch myself,

927
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: he called us man, listen. So I'm looking at him

928
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 1: from this way. Ron is looking at it from the

929
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: other way. You just like like, this is I'm here crazy, bro.

930
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: I just codn't believe. I'm like, I'm really in a

931
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,760
Speaker 1: Celtics jersey playing against Michael Jordan the Bulls. I'm twenty

932
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: one years old. This is crazy. So I'm looking at him.

933
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: He don't even look at us at all. Out of nowhere,

934
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: you hear this deep voice, dude, say, what the hell

935
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: are you looking at? Young fella. So me and Ron

936
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: at the same time, Rap turn and look off. We

937
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: go looking at the stands like like we're playing it

938
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 1: off like it ain't like it wasn't me. He never

939
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: said nothing to us, Brob and Mr Shot. The game

940
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 1: went on and played. We're in the locker room afterwards,

941
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: we're in the shower, run or not because we was rookies.

942
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: We had to shower last and out of nowhere. We

943
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: never said nothing about it, but I don't know where.

944
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: I said, hey man, you know he was talking to you, right.

945
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: He was like, hell no, he was talking to you.

946
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 1: He was talking to you. So we laughed about have

947
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: but we didn't tell nobody on the team because you

948
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 1: know he was you know, we were in the league too.

949
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 1: That's supposed to be in all like that. That's bugged out.

950
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: First game that was That was my moment. Was the

951
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: first game. That's a that's a good moment. It is.

952
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 1: And then the second game, so we go play the

953
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: Bulls at home back to back, go to Lando play

954
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: against Penny. My first two nights in the NBA. Man,

955
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: how good was Penny in his Penny days? Bro Oh

956
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 1: my goodness. Unstoppable And that was at that time. He

957
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: hadn't been injured yet. He was. He was amazing man.

958
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: He was on his way to bona fide first ballot

959
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame career for sure. Because of the height.

960
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: He could shoot, bang it on you quick. But he

961
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 1: can make plays. He could pass, he could post up.

962
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a point guard. He's a point guard.

963
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: He's six seven. He can po He canna post me up,

964
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: shoot right over. We got a double team. Passed so

965
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,439
Speaker 1: good he looks over the little guy's guarding him, could

966
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 1: shoot it. Athletic, I mean, Penny was. Penny was special.

967
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 1: Man that time. When when you first came in league,

968
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: you played through the league, changing you. You cover the game. Now,

969
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: this question it comes up all the time. You know

970
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: this dude's older than you that say it. Uh, you know, Ship,

971
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 1: You might even say it is the league soft? Now?

972
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: Is it? The rules? Is it like the physicality? You know?

973
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: You know that you guys, I feel like the defense

974
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: is it's such a fucking disadvantage and the instagrammification of

975
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: defense and like what happened to Wesley Johnson. I thought

976
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: it was criminal, Like, okay, you get crossed up, and

977
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: like it's not even to James Harden. It's the what

978
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: we're reacting to you guys on ESPN Marcellus while all

979
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: my people, I'm like, yo, you're celebrating this man like

980
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: your kids already don't want to play defense exactly. For one,

981
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: I hate it. Here here's the thing. I don't think

982
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: the guys are soft, but the rules are the rules

983
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: are you know? Um? I think that if the rules

984
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: were what it was when I was playing it, even

985
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: before these guys step up to the plate and compete,

986
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: they would because listen, it's the NBA. Everybody wants to

987
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: be an NBA, but they're not. And I'm not going,

988
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: you know, put that jacket on the guys. I don't

989
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: think the guys are soft, the rules are. And it's

990
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: funny because myself and Ben and Sheet and Ripped tell

991
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: all of us we raise our hand and take responsibility

992
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: because we feel like, for the most part, people didn't

993
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: really apprecate, like the powers that beat didn't appreciate how

994
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: we played the game. Because the scores is gonna be

995
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: ninety two to eighty seven. And and if you're a fan,

996
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: and you're just a casual fan, it's a boring brand

997
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: of basketball. But if you if you you and you

998
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: remember the Knicks, and you remember Oakley and and maybe

999
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: you remembered all those guys and Derek Harper's and you

1000
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: appreciate defense and you appreciate a guy competing like that.

1001
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: But it wasn't good for TV, so they changed the

1002
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: rules where you can't be as physical and you can't

1003
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: do anything. So now they like it at it's one

1004
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: the one nineteen. But the brand of basketball I think

1005
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: has suffered a little bit because of the competitiveness, in

1006
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: my opinion, do you think there's like a way that

1007
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: they have a happy medium where it's like, I know,

1008
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: it gets tighter during the playoffs, thank god, you know.

1009
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: And and but I'm like, and as much as I

1010
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: love to see dudes get crossed up and as love

1011
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: as time's the three points sometimes and Golden State is

1012
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: my favorite team, you know, outside of my Knicks, I

1013
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: love watching them and it's gorgeous what's happening. Sometimes I'm

1014
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: like put the ball on the page, like I'm just

1015
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: like enough with the damn threes. And Steph is my dude.

1016
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: Durant is my dude. I love watching them, but I'm like,

1017
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: what is this ship? I mean, they're like big men.

1018
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: They don't even need back to the basket game. You

1019
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: literally can be seven ft and not have like a

1020
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: dropstep move and play very productive basketball in the NBA.

1021
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: It's insane to me. A lot of those guys, by

1022
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: the way. I mean, they literally can't play with their

1023
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: back to the basket. Yeah, and it's the rules, Like

1024
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: I said, it's it's to me, it's the rules because

1025
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: if you had somebody teaching him that, because that's what

1026
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: We're gonna throw you the ball out on the block,

1027
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: and and you got a smaller guy, that's the move

1028
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: that you need. Sure they'll do it. These guys are

1029
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: talented this heck man, you know they'll they'll they'll do

1030
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: it right, But why do it if you're not gonna

1031
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: need it? You know, do you think there's a way

1032
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: to happen if you can make a rule, you're in

1033
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: a gm position. You could one day be the commission

1034
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: of the NBA. This might not e mean something you

1035
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: ever thought of, but like if you were to say

1036
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: right now, like a way to do split it where

1037
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 1: it's like give the defenders some I mean some leverage

1038
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: that they can't do. Shit, it's not fair like you

1039
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: literally you right now, you can't put your hand on it,

1040
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: whistle right, you can't. So it's basically like when you

1041
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: see these guys going off balance, it's because they're off

1042
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: balance because I have nothing to hold onto. You got

1043
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving doing Michael Jackson moves. Man, no way in

1044
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: the world you can guard him. There's no way to

1045
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: go to them without because you got to hold onto something,

1046
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: right so you don't fall. You have to, you know.

1047
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: It's it's funny as you say that, because our game

1048
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 1: and and the international game like USA Basketball and things

1049
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: like that with me have played so much of that.

1050
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: It is so different, like USA basketball and the internet.

1051
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: It is so physical. International more physical than us. Now.

1052
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: Oh it's not even close. And wasn't it before the opposite?

1053
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: Absolutely right now, they let you compete. You can hand

1054
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 1: check a guy come through the paint. You're chucking them like.

1055
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 1: It is really physical, man, And and I wish that

1056
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: we were a little more towards that. It's being a

1057
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: little more physical, play down the middle a little bit

1058
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: split it down the middle. But you know, and again

1059
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: the game, to me, the game wouldn't suffer because the

1060
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: guys will just have to get better and the guys

1061
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: that just have to train differently. I remember training like

1062
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: I was. I wanted to be the strongest point guard

1063
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 1: in league because I needed it. I want guys checking

1064
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 1: me and knocking me off balance and I'm going, yeah,

1065
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: I'm going in. They're getting hit and falling, and no,

1066
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:04,919
Speaker 1: I wanted to be strong. Now there's no need, there's

1067
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: no reason to be that strong. Why you it's just

1068
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: gonna show you down. Now. You want to be fast

1069
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: and lean and and get up and down and be

1070
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: able to go. I mean, it's just it's different, man,

1071
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: just different. When you mentioned you know, it's funny. Well,

1072
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: I saw I was talking about coming on the pod

1073
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 1: and yesterday and uh literally we were texting you like

1074
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: I'm down. I went to my car. I'm driving up

1075
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 1: last Cianneca. I see this big, tall motherfucker. I'm like,

1076
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: I know this gotta be a ball player. Rashid Oh yeah.

1077
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 1: And I was like, rash she you know what? And

1078
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 1: he's like, what's up? When you think about that time,

1079
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: like that's like one of these iconic teams obviously was Detroit,

1080
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: so you had the bad boys before you guys, but

1081
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 1: you guys were really sort of embraced this mentality was

1082
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 1: down in dirty um fun team personalities, intangible dudes. You

1083
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: know tas Shawan Rip had the mask. You missed a

1084
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: big shot, you're chilling and Rashi just like you know

1085
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: this guy who's sort of like, you know, one of

1086
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 1: the original sort of Stretch four, Stretch five guys. You

1087
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: guys bust the Lakers ass. I'm gonna be honest. Maybe

1088
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't paying attention. I didn't see that ship. Come

1089
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:15,959
Speaker 1: youn't paying attention? You're in the rest of the world.

1090
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: When you when you look back on that team, what

1091
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 1: made that team click? Like, what was the makeup of

1092
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: that team? Man? You know what? We you talk about

1093
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of guys at that time in their

1094
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: career that were all kind of thrown away from different teams,

1095
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 1: different situations. With the exception to Tation, who was drafted

1096
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 1: um in Detroit, all of us were just kind of

1097
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: like throwaways, man, And we were at an age and

1098
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:44,439
Speaker 1: stage where it was like we we could really do something,

1099
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: you know, but we got to do it together. Like

1100
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: none of us are good enough to carry the team

1101
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: by ourselves. We're past that, however, together and we all

1102
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: had a defensive mindset. We cared about each other, bro like,

1103
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: we cared and we took pride in playing and stopping

1104
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: teams period it most people take pride in outscoring or

1105
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: dunking on the guy or crossing the guy or getting

1106
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: forty or we took pride in stopping you. And that's

1107
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: that's where you know, and we and we embodied really

1108
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 1: what the spirit of Detroit is as a city. We

1109
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 1: embodied that you were the reincarnation of those earlier and

1110
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: we looked up to those guys with Zeke and Joe

1111
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: d obviously who led us at the time, and and

1112
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: Mahorn and we we looked up to them and Lambbier

1113
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: like we looked up to them man. And we was like,

1114
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: we need to be like that. We need that's who

1115
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 1: we need to be like. And we we did, like

1116
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 1: in the city got behind us. The fans we had to.

1117
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: We are the best fans of the world. And I

1118
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: just feel like when you're in a city like that,

1119
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 1: if you can embody what the city is about, you'll

1120
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 1: get more fan participation. Even if you're not winning, but

1121
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 1: you land on the line every night. Man, you're giving

1122
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: it all you got. They're gonna support you, you know,

1123
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: and we just we had a we had a magical run. Man.

1124
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 1: When you think about I mean, you guys, there's that

1125
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 1: series has been scrutinized, talked about, you know, the it's

1126
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: almost a shame because the way it sort of looked

1127
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: back historically. Sometimes it's like, well, Detroit didn't beat the Lakers.

1128
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: The Lakers imploded. You guys bust their ass five games,

1129
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 1: sweep five games. Sweet a gentleman, Sweet, it's just a

1130
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 1: small gentleman. Sweet, we'll give you one. So you say

1131
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 1: you don't lose too much. You're gonna work for that too.

1132
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 1: You gotta go in overtime to get that one. Right.

1133
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: But wait, a school, you got it. When people say, like,

1134
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: well they screwed up, the Lakers imploded, I don't know,

1135
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: Kobe quit, the team, quit on code, whatever the funk

1136
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: they say. Everybody says everything about everything. You know, it's

1137
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 1: kind of sucks because it takes away from the fact

1138
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 1: that you guys bust their ass. Yeah, yeah, well we

1139
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: don't take it away for us. But here's what we figured. Man.

1140
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 1: Like everybody knew the whole Kobe and Shock name the

1141
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 1: times that they have been to the final Shock has

1142
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: always want to get the m v p UM. Kobe,

1143
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 1: we knew really wanted to kill us, you know. And

1144
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 1: so what we did is we played into their own psyche.

1145
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: We wanted Kobe and Shock to be mad. So what

1146
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 1: we do you were conscious of this? Absolutely, we play

1147
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 1: Shock head up. We can't guard Shock Man. Ben Wallace

1148
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 1: is one of the greatest ever, but head up, we

1149
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 1: can't guard him. He's just too big. So we're saying

1150
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 1: being play him head up. He's gonna get thirty, that's fine,

1151
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: but we're gonna wear his but out. We're gonna make

1152
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 1: him come run out here in these picking rolls. He's

1153
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: gonna get his thirty, but we're gonna double team Kobe.

1154
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 1: We're gonna let Kobe get his thirty or forty because

1155
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: both of them getting that were in trouble. Play him

1156
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 1: head up. He's gonna be taking tools all day and

1157
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,919
Speaker 1: dunking the ball. That's fine, We're living with that. Double Kobe.

1158
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 1: Don't let him get going. Knowing As the series goes on,

1159
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 1: Kobe knows he's struggling and he knows he's getting double

1160
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 1: but Shock is killing that ain't gonna play too well.

1161
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 1: In the locker room, you guys were conscious said, oh,

1162
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 1: come on, man, we're playing all that. We're playing and

1163
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: all that. That's why our game plan was and we

1164
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 1: were playing in all of that for sure. When Rashid

1165
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: Wallace is like one of these guys like, I love

1166
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 1: this dude, I love this dude, I love I love him.

1167
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 1: His whole career is nuts, you know, in his game

1168
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: and it's always philly and talking about you know. I mean,

1169
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 1: I don't think he could play in the league at

1170
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 1: this time because the amount of ship talking he did.

1171
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. I mean, he would be broke he could. Mean,

1172
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 1: Draymond Green is a church mouse compared to I mean, Rashid.

1173
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: When he was with the Point, he was gun. First

1174
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 1: of all, what do you think Draymond got it from?

1175
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 1: He was pretty much our ball boy. He's from the

1176
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 1: from around all the time. So him Jordan Dumars, who

1177
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 1: was Joe's son, best friends. They around the team every

1178
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 1: day all day and keep it going. Well, that's why

1179
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 1: that's my son. We raised him. I love this. We

1180
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 1: are listen We're on a group chat all the time,

1181
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: him and is Draymond, myself, Ben ped Sheet. We're on

1182
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: a group track arguing whose teams are listen right now?

1183
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 1: Today we raised him that what do you think he

1184
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: got it from? He get it from Rashid, get it

1185
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 1: from Ben. He's being mentor. I mean, that's that's an

1186
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:18,440
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, absolutely so. Rashid historically

1187
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 1: he was like at the time, was like, what is

1188
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 1: this tall dude shooting threes for? Like, why are you

1189
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 1: shooting threes? He'd made them, but he was sort of

1190
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:28,679
Speaker 1: a precursor to all these dudes. Now, what was Rashid

1191
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 1: like in his prime with the Pistons, Like as a player,

1192
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 1: like as a talent. And also, that's a toll dude.

1193
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's six eleven or seven, but

1194
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 1: he's that's a toll like some dudes or seven feet

1195
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 1: and then some dudes are like that dude's long. I'll

1196
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 1: tell you what. We we were a really good team, man,

1197
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: a really good team. But when we got Sheet, we

1198
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: became a great team. Why Defensively, obviously, Ben Wallace was amazing,

1199
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 1: but Ben Ben was very quiet. He's a quiet, kind

1200
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 1: of shot I do so his his leadership style and

1201
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,759
Speaker 1: his work is just gonna be on his effort sheet.

1202
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 1: Now it's very vocal. So he became the voice that

1203
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 1: you here on the back line of the defense. He's

1204
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 1: calling screens out for me all the way. If I'm

1205
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 1: picking up past half court, he's calling out their plays.

1206
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 1: He's so smart, super super duper smart. He's calling their

1207
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 1: plays out. Oh he's coming off, he's gonna get to pick.

1208
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 1: He's calling his quarterback and all of that that's on

1209
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 1: the defensive end. Could guard, picking rolls, could switch up.

1210
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:32,719
Speaker 1: You know, there's so much we could do. He allowed

1211
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 1: us to do defensively and then offensively. It gave me

1212
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 1: a picking pop guy. Any mistake that you make with

1213
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 1: me and sheeting the pick and roll, we're gonna make

1214
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 1: you pay. But not only that. Say rip is not rolling,

1215
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 1: say I'm not playing well, you can always throw the

1216
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 1: ball on the block the receipt, slow the game down.

1217
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 1: He's gonna get a bucket or foul. He just changed

1218
01:09:57,200 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 1: everything about us. When we got sheet. He was good,

1219
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 1: and he was so unselfish. To unselfish, well, I would

1220
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 1: have to make him. I would literally have to man.

1221
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 1: We would all have to like cuss sheet out and

1222
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: say I'm throwing it in, don't throw it back to me.

1223
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 1: I don't care how many people come get a bucket.

1224
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,560
Speaker 1: He played the right way. Oh man. He was just

1225
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 1: he was. She was so underappreciated as a player. I

1226
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 1: agree because because he was so nutty, you know, and

1227
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 1: he would talk so much ship in the texts. Sometimes

1228
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 1: you'd be like, you know, nothing's going on, Like what

1229
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 1: are you doing? Like like do you want to go

1230
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 1: to sleep? You want like did you not TiVo the show?

1231
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 1: Like you're trying to get to like a Broadway play?

1232
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: Do you not? Just you shouldn't have king, But like

1233
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 1: his style of play was like it was ahead of

1234
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 1: its time. It was and he had the whole package

1235
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 1: down everything. She was kind of dude. Man, it's so funny.

1236
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 1: I tell people that, they'd be like, huh, she's the

1237
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,640
Speaker 1: kind of dude. If we lose in June in the

1238
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: Eastern Conference finals, she wouldn't pick up a basketball until

1239
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 1: training camp started. Everybody working for two three months in

1240
01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 1: the summer, she showed up. He hadn't touched the ballston

1241
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 1: the last season. He's just a natural, Like he just

1242
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 1: took me out of shape, but he's still so skilled.

1243
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 1: So it's gonna take she two months to get into

1244
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 1: the shape that we need him in at the start

1245
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 1: of the season. But we already knew. Once we get

1246
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 1: him there, we're good. She you just be she We

1247
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 1: all right, we'll handle it. When you talk about this team,

1248
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 1: there's like there's such a fondness and like I saw you.

1249
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 1: I remember I saw you last year at in Golden

1250
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 1: State with Rashid and like you guys are connected at

1251
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 1: the hip. You do the show with Mama and Pierce.

1252
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 1: I love Paul Pierce, I love Garnett. Give me some insight.

1253
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:37,600
Speaker 1: What the funk is going on with the Celtics and

1254
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: Ray Allen and Genrondo and like, listen, it's not a

1255
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 1: good look for any of them. I don't know. Okay,

1256
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 1: he went to Miami. I didn't like it. This is

1257
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: not my thing. I and just because it was Miami,

1258
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 1: but I'm like, this has got to stop. It's not

1259
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:53,640
Speaker 1: a good look for the NBA. Like it's it's like

1260
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,640
Speaker 1: some real Housewives of Boston. It's like, Okay, they had

1261
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: the little thing, you know, KG gets his number retired, Paul,

1262
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 1: here's good. Then it's sad to me. It's crazy. I

1263
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know why they hate ray Man,

1264
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:11,719
Speaker 1: but I'm telling you that that that the stain happened

1265
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 1: before he left. I really do believe that, and I

1266
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 1: think that that's probably the reason why ray left is

1267
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 1: he he didn't feel to love like he don't I'm

1268
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: not one of the guys here. We just winning and

1269
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 1: playing good, but I'm not really one of the guys.

1270
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:26,560
Speaker 1: So that allows you to leave and go somewhere like

1271
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 1: we my team's my great teams. And in Detroit, you

1272
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 1: would never hear anybody that everybody was brothers the teams

1273
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 1: that we love the Warriors right now, fifteen years from now,

1274
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 1: it's never gonna be nobody coming out saying, well, uh no,

1275
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 1: these dudes are brothers, their brothers, So that that's going

1276
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,640
Speaker 1: on there is it's strange to me, and I'm with you.

1277
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 1: I think it's sad man because they had a great

1278
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 1: thing going, They had a great run, and you want

1279
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 1: to talk about that, not now. You want to talk

1280
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 1: about the greatness, not what the inner dealings were and

1281
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 1: who why we don't like ray Allen and Rayland was

1282
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 1: a badass, like he was just some dude on the bench, Like,

1283
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 1: I'm like Reylands that dude. Yes he was, man, he's

1284
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 1: one of the ray Alan is one of the greatest

1285
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 1: two guards to ever play Top ten, Right, Yeah for sure.

1286
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 1: I mean absolutely that I've seen top five that I've seen.

1287
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys I've never seen, but ray

1288
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 1: Allen was the absolute truth. I think it's got to stop.

1289
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 1: Like Region round, Like, yo, what's the problem man, You're

1290
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 1: you're almost a snub for being out of the league

1291
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:33,600
Speaker 1: last year and I funk with Region. I'm like, this

1292
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 1: has got to stop enough. He wants to put his

1293
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 1: book out. Let him put his book out. Apparently ray

1294
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 1: Allen hasn't had a cheeseburger since he was in high school.

1295
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 1: I want to read about that, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

1296
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 1: that's that's weird, man. That thing is strange. Man. I

1297
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 1: was talking to Paul about it, uh, just yesterday and

1298
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 1: he's some of that stuff. He's like, I'm not reading

1299
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 1: that book man, Like it's it's we had a great

1300
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 1: thing going. We want to chip together, Like I'm I'm

1301
01:13:58,240 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 1: on that, Like I don't want to. I don't want

1302
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 1: to negativity. What do you think, Like again when you

1303
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 1: came in the league. It's changed so much to social

1304
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 1: media aspect of it. I feel compassion for these guys,

1305
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 1: even uh the Lebron who like, like I said, I

1306
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 1: break his balls. But off the court, I love his

1307
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 1: outspokenness and that the fact that he handles his stardom.

1308
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,799
Speaker 1: He's inspired everybody that's coming after him in all sports.

1309
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:24,440
Speaker 1: The fact that he's been so vocal. I have compassion

1310
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 1: for for for these players, whether it's Lanzo ball or

1311
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 1: Lebron twenty four hour reality show. You know, we talk

1312
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 1: about Rashid not being able to talk ship in today's NBA,

1313
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:37,680
Speaker 1: you know, like what they wear. Um, if they say

1314
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 1: something on the court, whether it's caught on ESPN or not,

1315
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna wind up on Instagram. I mean, is this

1316
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: out of control? Like these guys can't breathe, like can

1317
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 1: none of them can make a mistake. It's terrible. And

1318
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 1: I just think about it, like what if that was

1319
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 1: going on when when we play, like bro, none of

1320
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 1: us will be seen the way that we're seeing today.

1321
01:14:57,840 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like it would be so

1322
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 1: be it would be such a mess. So I went

1323
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 1: to I feel bad. I feel bad that these guys

1324
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: have to not only do they have to be on seven,

1325
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 1: but they've now found ways to kind of troll the

1326
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 1: media through this stuff, which is I'm like, hey, this

1327
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 1: is this is a byproduct to all of this. Now

1328
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 1: you want to try to you want to change your

1329
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 1: own narrative because if you don't, somebody else will and

1330
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 1: it's all bad. So it makes you like really feed

1331
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:30,799
Speaker 1: into all the garbage, you know what I mean, because

1332
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 1: you wanted to be what you put out there and

1333
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:36,759
Speaker 1: not what they're bringing to you. You have to almost

1334
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 1: on the You have to be on the offensive. Yeah,

1335
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 1: you gotta play offense all game. You gotta always play

1336
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 1: offense every clip. I mean, when you would do a

1337
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 1: postgame interview, would be in Detroit, would be in Denver.

1338
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 1: That's it. Now it's on like everybody's postgame interviews on

1339
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 1: Instagram everywhere. So you can't have an attitude. You can't

1340
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:56,759
Speaker 1: be upset, you can't be in a badmoo. Your ankle

1341
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 1: can hurt and you have to answer the question. I'm

1342
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 1: telling you, man, I'm telling it is. It's tough. It's

1343
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 1: I'm glad I don't have to deal with that. It's

1344
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 1: too much right, Yeah, I mean I think it's unfair,

1345
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 1: Like can you get these twenty old kids, like like

1346
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 1: I've been on a Lonzo ball. But I'm like, at

1347
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 1: the end of the day, he's twenty. He doesn't know

1348
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 1: what the he's twenty, He don't even can't even yes,

1349
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:21,680
Speaker 1: twenty years old man dealing with all of that. I mean,

1350
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 1: that's it's tough. Man, It's tough. When I remember when

1351
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 1: I talked to you in the summertime and you played

1352
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 1: uh when you were in Denver. Mik Mood abdul Ralf,

1353
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:37,679
Speaker 1: who one of my talk to me about how great

1354
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 1: he is and what you saw with him and like

1355
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 1: you know when growing up admiring him and how special

1356
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 1: he is. Well, Mike Mood is one of the one

1357
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 1: of my favorite players of all time. He's the one

1358
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 1: guy he one day I worked his camp and I

1359
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 1: was in high school and it was one of the

1360
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 1: best and worst days of my life. And here's why

1361
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 1: I was a counselor in the camp. He let me

1362
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:06,600
Speaker 1: work out with him after the camp. So usually have

1363
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 1: to start the workout, you know, guys getting shots up.

1364
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 1: You make ten at each spot, five spots, and Mike

1365
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 1: Moo not only was, but still is such a great

1366
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 1: shooter that he was making Usually we'll go, all right,

1367
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 1: make seven out of ten or eight out of ten.

1368
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 1: At that age, he was making tender to roll, but

1369
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 1: not only tending roll, he was making tender role all net.

1370
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there like I got done with the

1371
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 1: workout and I'm sitting there. It was the greatest experience

1372
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 1: because I've seen what a pro looks like and how

1373
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 1: he trains and how he works. And I'm like sixteen seventeen.

1374
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 1: But also I'm like, I don't know if I can

1375
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 1: make the league. I gotta shoot like this. This dude

1376
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 1: ain't miss a shot for like twenty five minutes. Sometimes

1377
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 1: that's crazy. And I'm sitting there like that's crazy that

1378
01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 1: you said. Yeah, and rap, I'm sitting there and I'm

1379
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 1: just like, damn, this dude ain't even an All Star

1380
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 1: like this is this is this is a real good

1381
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 1: player in the league. I don't know if I can

1382
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 1: make it. This is crazy. Did you ever tell him

1383
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 1: that I told him that. I told him. I tell him,

1384
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 1: I told him. I reminded him of that last summer

1385
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 1: during Big Three we went and had lunch together. Uh,

1386
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 1: and he was like chimes. I remember that day. I

1387
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 1: remember that day, man, that was that was fun. That

1388
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:28,640
Speaker 1: was first time I ever really met you because I

1389
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 1: played against his little brother um in high school. So

1390
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:33,560
Speaker 1: it was I'm telling you it was the best and

1391
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 1: worst day of my life at that age, man, because

1392
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 1: it made me think, like them, I can't make it

1393
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:40,600
Speaker 1: to the league. But man, I got a chance to

1394
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 1: work out with Mark move Man. It was crazy. But

1395
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 1: I've always been a big fan of him, not only

1396
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 1: as a player of rap, but just as a man.

1397
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 1: As a man like I still learned a lot from him.

1398
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 1: He it's me from ton of Time, Chance. I got

1399
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 1: a good book for you to read. Boom shoots it

1400
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 1: to me. I'll read it, we'll talk about it. Um,

1401
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 1: just man, got I hold this dude on such a pedestal. Man,

1402
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 1: this is unbelievable. Um, I want to throw names at you.

1403
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 1: Players in his prime, Steve Francis, I mean, this is

1404
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 1: a tragic story. He he was at the Big Three

1405
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 1: last year. I mean, Steve Francis was about about it.

1406
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 1: He had a good run. Man, How good was Steve Francis.

1407
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 1: Steve Francis was unbelievable. I mean, he had a run

1408
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:31,560
Speaker 1: there for four or five years, where I mean you

1409
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 1: talked about all these triple doubles and this is like

1410
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 1: that was that was franchise. That was franchise. I mean

1411
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 1: he he was on his way, in my opinion, to

1412
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame career. There's no question about it. Well,

1413
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 1: I mean obviously, you know since he's been out of

1414
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 1: the league, you know, you hear all this stuff. But

1415
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 1: when somebody who's that talented, uh, you know, like he

1416
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 1: had this run of these four or five years, he's

1417
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:54,839
Speaker 1: killing it. I remember I saw him in that dunk contest.

1418
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 1: Obviously Vince Carter he overshadowed everybody, but Francis was like

1419
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:02,599
Speaker 1: his dunks and that it would want any other dunk

1420
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 1: contests and that I think that was the best dunk

1421
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 1: contest ever. Right ever, then shut it down. But like

1422
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:11,640
Speaker 1: what Mac and Francis and they would have both won

1423
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 1: any other year. Steve Francis would like that. I mean

1424
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:15,600
Speaker 1: it's like you think about like these little things that

1425
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 1: would change the course of his stuff. Yeah, that's true.

1426
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,600
Speaker 1: Steve Nash in his prime, what what like this is

1427
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 1: another dude like water bug dude, like he had a

1428
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,679
Speaker 1: factor because Number one he's a white dude doing wild ship.

1429
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 1: But he you know, he sort of like started this

1430
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 1: these you know these off leg you know, left hand

1431
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 1: putting up with the right you know, like he did

1432
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 1: whatever he needed to do to get the ball in.

1433
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 1: You know, Steph Curry. You could see he was influenced

1434
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 1: by Kyrie. Took it to a whole of the level.

1435
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 1: How how much of a problem was he to guard

1436
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:49,920
Speaker 1: Steve Man. You know, I can't sit here and say

1437
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 1: that he was underappreciated because he's two time m v P.

1438
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 1: But Steve, Steve Nash was cold. Man was cold because

1439
01:20:57,439 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 1: he was so smart. And um, not many times I

1440
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:03,560
Speaker 1: played against a guy on the other side was that

1441
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:05,639
Speaker 1: was thinking like I was thinking that was as smart

1442
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: as me? But he he was, and and I was funny.

1443
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 1: I was just talking about the kid Trey Young today,

1444
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 1: um on TV. But Stevie did a thing that was very,

1445
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 1: very important to his success. He was able to pass

1446
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 1: the ball with his left hand on target in pick

1447
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:27,719
Speaker 1: and rolls under the rest and that right there opened

1448
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 1: up so much for not only for him for starting

1449
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:33,799
Speaker 1: Mire from Matrix, but it just it made the offense

1450
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:35,720
Speaker 1: go so smooth and there was no real way to

1451
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 1: guard him. You can't trap him. He's getting rid of

1452
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 1: it too quick. You get back up for him. He

1453
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 1: can shoot, he can. I mean, Steve Nash was so

1454
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:47,919
Speaker 1: stinking good man, he really was. Who are other players

1455
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 1: that when you played against? Going back to I mean

1456
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 1: when you were first in the league, to your inn

1457
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 1: where you were like, I gotta make sure I drink

1458
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 1: some apple juice today, Like I gotta like vite him

1459
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 1: in up. Well, I tell you when I was younger,

1460
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 1: I mean, John Stockton gave me twenty and ten at forty.

1461
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 1: He was forty years old. He was playing six minutes

1462
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 1: a quarter, so he and he and Mark Jackson played

1463
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:13,759
Speaker 1: together the last couple of years. He was playing six minutes,

1464
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:16,680
Speaker 1: Mark Jackson was playing another six in the quarter to

1465
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 1: the tea. It didn't matter what was going on. They

1466
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 1: had two old point guards. That's funny. And I was

1467
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 1: coming off the man. Listen, this dude gave me twenty

1468
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:28,640
Speaker 1: and ten at fourty years old. Why was he so

1469
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 1: good man? He was just so damn smart man. And

1470
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 1: he was he could use the pick and roll, and

1471
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:36,640
Speaker 1: he can manipulate the way that you think is as

1472
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 1: a defender, you garden a guy you don't know where

1473
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 1: the pick and rolls coming. When angle is set? Are

1474
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 1: we going under? We're going over? Is it Carl setting it?

1475
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:46,680
Speaker 1: Or is it somebody else? I mean, there's so much

1476
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 1: to think about, but he could see you thinking about

1477
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 1: all that stuff, and its man, he just picked you

1478
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 1: apart so quick man, so quick, and he knows how

1479
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 1: to get fouled. He's crafty. He don't miss free throws.

1480
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:01,719
Speaker 1: He don't miss shots either. He was just so good.

1481
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 1: But as a young fellow him, g P talk about Gary,

1482
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 1: He's another thing we we we I love this dude.

1483
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,560
Speaker 1: He should be an actor like he literally could be

1484
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 1: a stand up comedian. He could be a stand up comedian,

1485
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 1: straight up like if he wanted to be, like fucking like,

1486
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 1: I'm going on the road. Gary Payton, the One man Show,

1487
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 1: one of the best ship talkers, just most entertaining people.

1488
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:24,759
Speaker 1: You could put him in a room of the best actors,

1489
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 1: Kevin Hard anyone. I don't care like Gary Payton. He's

1490
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 1: a guy who we we forget about. I mean, this

1491
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 1: guy's an offensive defensive rand teams that why so good? Well,

1492
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:43,599
Speaker 1: for one, is nobody tougher than him? What do you mean? Tough.

1493
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna he's gonna fight tooth and nail

1494
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 1: until it's over. And he thinks that he can lock

1495
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 1: you down. Most of the times he can. At that

1496
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:53,679
Speaker 1: point in the game, the rules were a little different

1497
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 1: where you can you know. But he had great hands.

1498
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 1: He had an unbelievable post game, so he was taller

1499
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 1: than most point guards. So he backed you down on

1500
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 1: that block. He's left handed in real life, so he's

1501
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,640
Speaker 1: finishing round the bucket left hand, so you thought it

1502
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 1: was weird, but he's shooting Jumper's right hand. But his game,

1503
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 1: like the funny thing is his game. It wasn't like

1504
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:20,600
Speaker 1: real crisp and nice, and his handle wasn't crazy. Is

1505
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:23,680
Speaker 1: Jumper wasn't crazy. He's gonna get it done and you

1506
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 1: ain't gonna stop him from getting it done. He's just

1507
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 1: at that that heart at heart, man, his heart of

1508
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 1: a lion, and like you said, probably the best trash

1509
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 1: talker and and that I've seen ever in the game,

1510
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 1: which he full tilt the whole time all game loan

1511
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:42,639
Speaker 1: from jump Ball. He don't care who it is. Man.

1512
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 1: He talked, Man, he talked. And then if you got

1513
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:48,720
Speaker 1: somebody in the stands with you. He talking to them, man,

1514
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 1: he g p was unbelievable. Man, he was so that

1515
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 1: good man Like, he's one of my all time favorites.

1516
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:57,599
Speaker 1: Who is that? Give me one more like where you're

1517
01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:00,080
Speaker 1: like one of my one of my favorites and you

1518
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:02,720
Speaker 1: know him well, well he's from your town. But Rod

1519
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 1: Strickland man one of the most underrated point guards ever. Man.

1520
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 1: Like I there was nothing I could do to keep

1521
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 1: Ride from not having seven and fourteen on me bro

1522
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 1: Like as a young it was just crazy and I'm like, man,

1523
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:20,639
Speaker 1: I'm fastening this dude, I can he don't really shoot

1524
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 1: the three that good? I can back off like I can.

1525
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:26,680
Speaker 1: I couldn't stop him, couldn't stop him rock and Rod

1526
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 1: Strickland was underappreciate it. Man really underappreciated him. Sam Casell,

1527
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 1: Sam is a problem under what man underappreciate it. I'm

1528
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 1: telling you, man, there was so many Tarel Brandon, who

1529
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 1: was a guy that was really important to me and

1530
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 1: my career. Um Man, Nick van ext will get high

1531
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 1: and sold. It's ridiculous too, dude. There was so many seeds.

1532
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 1: The funny thing is, I'm glad we're having this conversation.

1533
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 1: Because everybody in the world right now are saying this

1534
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:59,600
Speaker 1: is the best ever the point guards in the in

1535
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 1: the game aim today, this is the best has ever been.

1536
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm not so sure. No, I'm not. I'm not. And

1537
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 1: there's some good ones, now, there's a lot, but some

1538
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:12,679
Speaker 1: great ones actually, but there's some great ones. Don't. Don't

1539
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 1: don't these guys. And I'm just talking about you just

1540
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 1: said Rod Strickland. You didn't meet Mark Jackson. That's my guy.

1541
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 1: He was at the end of the end. Not only

1542
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 1: that Mark Price. Mark Price was killer with the short

1543
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 1: everybody else switched over to the long shorts. Mark Press

1544
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 1: was like, I'm not doing that. These are the same era, dudes, kJ.

1545
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 1: This is all the same, And these dudes were so good,

1546
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 1: the Rocks, tricks of the Sam CAA sales, the Nick

1547
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 1: Van Axel's and you're you're forgetting ten more dudes. Well,

1548
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 1: of course I mean this. You know this is a

1549
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 1: great era point guards. I'm not. I'm not saying it's not.

1550
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:52,680
Speaker 1: But the rors that I played in I played in

1551
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 1: like three different ones. Man, it was amazing. Man, Baron Davis,

1552
01:26:57,360 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You talking about Steve Francis,

1553
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 1: Baron Davis talking about a physical point over the Renus man.

1554
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 1: These dudes man was so good man, Gilbert Arenus was

1555
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 1: when he got going. Forget about it, forget about it? Okay,

1556
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 1: analyst cap Before I let you go, first of all,

1557
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:20,679
Speaker 1: who's the Rookie of the year? Uh? Is Ben Simmons

1558
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 1: a rap? Is that? My man? Donovan Mitchell New York

1559
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 1: is in the house? Um? And is the Ben Simmons

1560
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 1: Since you know he sound out that he's a red

1561
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:29,600
Speaker 1: shirt rookie, does it account or is it just you

1562
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 1: can't argue he's considered a rookie. He's considered a rookie.

1563
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 1: I don't like it, but he's considered a rookie. And

1564
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 1: because I don't like it, I'm going co Rookie the

1565
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 1: Year because Donovan Mitchell has been spectacular all season long

1566
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 1: and they're winning, they're winning in the Western Conference, and

1567
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 1: and look, Ben Simmons is he's a generational player, he

1568
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:57,880
Speaker 1: really is. Do you think he's that good? Yes? Yes,

1569
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons is a generational player for sure. For sure,

1570
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 1: so we definitely can't discount him. But you know, he

1571
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:08,600
Speaker 1: got a chance to know what it's like to be

1572
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:11,879
Speaker 1: in the NBA. He was to sleep, laid on planes

1573
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 1: getting up even though he wasn't playing like he had.

1574
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:17,840
Speaker 1: He had time to adjust to the NBA lifestyle when

1575
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 1: Mitchell hasn't and he just came in. This is all

1576
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 1: new to Mitchell. So I'm going cold Rookie of the

1577
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 1: Year even though you know, listen, this boy Simmons, he'll

1578
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 1: probably had a better career, you know, all around, obviously

1579
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 1: than than Donovan Mitchell. He's a better player and he's

1580
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 1: so versatile. Man, it's the kid is It's amazing. But

1581
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 1: I gotta get some love Dono vins Man. That's amazing

1582
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 1: what he's doing. Um, college basketball is there next season,

1583
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 1: and I don't know how much of it you get

1584
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:51,720
Speaker 1: to watch because you're immerged in NBA your family and

1585
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 1: like taking a breath, Is there anybody coming out that's

1586
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 1: gonna like be like that guy? Because I feel like

1587
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 1: whether they're that guy or not that guy, the press

1588
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 1: and the media are gonna make like like the last

1589
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 1: year's Summer League was like they were literally acting like

1590
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 1: it was the beginning. I'm like, this is the Summer

1591
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 1: League like and I said it, and I want to

1592
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 1: hear your opinion on this. I said this and people

1593
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:14,080
Speaker 1: said I was nuts. If they took the best of

1594
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 1: the big three guys last summer, okay, and they knew

1595
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:19,719
Speaker 1: we gotta get in shape, we gotta get in shape.

1596
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 1: We really took the best. You guys could figure it out.

1597
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 1: You guys know who's the best. You know it's in shape.

1598
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 1: And you took the Summer League All Stars. Oh, come on, man,

1599
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:29,920
Speaker 1: that would be easy. Man, you guys would bust their ass.

1600
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 1: That's real, right easy. It's not even close now where

1601
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, you're crazy choices and you just

1602
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 1: had a meniscus, you know, Steve and Jackson, Like, I

1603
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 1: believe it too. Well, here's the thing. Those young guys

1604
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 1: are really good, really athletic, but there's a lot they

1605
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:51,720
Speaker 1: don't know about basketball that we know a lot. And

1606
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,680
Speaker 1: just alone, I listened, I have forgot more basketball. These

1607
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:58,760
Speaker 1: guys never been taught. So just on that alone, and

1608
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:01,960
Speaker 1: now you're talking about guys we're in shape. Oh, it's

1609
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 1: not even closet alright, So that I believe that too.

1610
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, I don't see it

1611
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 1: happened because like this like that, you know, there's no

1612
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 1: defense in the NBA, but there's really no defense in

1613
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:17,680
Speaker 1: the NBA Summer League. I mean that was like, I

1614
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:21,479
Speaker 1: was like, this is we're having some really misinformation here,

1615
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:23,640
Speaker 1: Like you guys are getting sold wolf tickets. If you

1616
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:25,800
Speaker 1: think this is gonna translate in a couple of months,

1617
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:29,680
Speaker 1: and then you gotta think they're playing against guys they

1618
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:33,040
Speaker 1: haven't played n My gardener. They're playing my gardener. My

1619
01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:35,840
Speaker 1: gardener played summer League. He's a great guy. He's a

1620
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:38,360
Speaker 1: better gardener. He played Summer league last year. He was

1621
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:42,639
Speaker 1: he had the eleven points. I mean, he's great, dude,

1622
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:47,519
Speaker 1: it was not even close. Who who is gonna be

1623
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 1: the NBA Rookie of the Year next college? Well, look, man,

1624
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:52,920
Speaker 1: there's some good ones. Wrap, wrap, there's some good ones. Man.

1625
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 1: DeAndre Aden. That kid is a he is a monster.

1626
01:30:56,439 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 1: He's gonna be nice. Um. I really like Badley. Trey

1627
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 1: Young's game will translate to the Yeah. Yeah, I mean

1628
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 1: just when we talked about this, the physicality of the

1629
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 1: league is not what it once was. So having a

1630
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,760
Speaker 1: high skill level and a high basketball i Q and

1631
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:17,519
Speaker 1: can stress the d it's gonna be huge. It's gonna

1632
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:19,200
Speaker 1: be huge. I like to see him in New York

1633
01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:21,599
Speaker 1: City with I like see him be a nick I'm

1634
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:25,080
Speaker 1: not gonna it's a lot of pressure, man. Well that's

1635
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 1: gonna be for anybody. But you got a guy, he's

1636
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 1: fearless man. And I'm telling you he had that crowd up,

1637
01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:34,559
Speaker 1: the crowd going, I'm telling you. But anyway, so those

1638
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 1: those three guys are good. I like the Sexton kid Um.

1639
01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:40,840
Speaker 1: Still trying to see Michael Porter Jr. If he's gotten

1640
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 1: back healthy, because he struggled. But when he's ready, you

1641
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:45,799
Speaker 1: know what they said, they say he's he's at more athletic.

1642
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:49,240
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum is what they've been saying about. I haven't

1643
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:51,600
Speaker 1: seen it yet because he's coming off that injury. But

1644
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:54,400
Speaker 1: this is a good group. This is a good group.

1645
01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:58,040
Speaker 1: And the Luca Dante's kid from overseas, he haven't seen,

1646
01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 1: but I heard that he's the real deal. You have

1647
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 1: to believe it. Now with the Porzingis thing, like you

1648
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:04,560
Speaker 1: you know, because that was we didn't know what that.

1649
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:09,599
Speaker 1: We do know somebody saw something. What do you think?

1650
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:14,720
Speaker 1: I think that there's so much made and I don't

1651
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:17,800
Speaker 1: think it's it's valid of regular season M v P.

1652
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook last year. Russell is one of my favorite players.

1653
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 1: Triple double kicked Ass, triple double kicked ass, Triple double

1654
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 1: kicked Ass won the regular season m VP two months

1655
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 1: after they got bumped out, And I'm sure he's probably

1656
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:34,960
Speaker 1: put that regular season MVP in the closet somewhere. Twenty

1657
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:37,560
Speaker 1: years ago, the m v P would be announced, it

1658
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 1: would be a little thing, and now it's like a

1659
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:42,439
Speaker 1: full season campaign for the regular season m VP, and

1660
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 1: they give the award out after the season's over. And

1661
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 1: I'm like ninety nine, like James Harden, great season, probably

1662
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:52,120
Speaker 1: gonna be m v P. Although Lebron James, if you

1663
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 1: took him out of there, the Cleveland Coupitalier has become

1664
01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 1: the Orlando Magic. So in my opinion, he's the m

1665
01:32:56,800 --> 01:33:00,400
Speaker 1: v P because they literally would be that team would fold.

1666
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:02,880
Speaker 1: Do you think there's too much made a regular season

1667
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:06,280
Speaker 1: MVP at this point? Wrap, Look, it's a huge award, man,

1668
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 1: it really is. I've always felt this way, the best

1669
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:14,599
Speaker 1: award that you could possibly get to me in any

1670
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 1: sport is the NBA Finals MVP, because I mean, and

1671
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:24,880
Speaker 1: you know, and look, I was lucky enough and fortunate

1672
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:28,320
Speaker 1: enough to have gotten it, But for that summer, that

1673
01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:31,920
Speaker 1: summer alone, I don't care who won the regular city

1674
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 1: I'm the best player in the entire world who won

1675
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:36,560
Speaker 1: the regular season MVP the year you wont the I

1676
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:39,280
Speaker 1: don't know, thank you, I don't know. And really, you know,

1677
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 1: I bet you that person would I mean, I don't

1678
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:44,040
Speaker 1: know if it was Kobe, that person would rather have

1679
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:46,160
Speaker 1: that trop for you. I'm telling you, I think it's

1680
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 1: the best award in any sport because it's a series.

1681
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 1: It's not a one game super Bowl or it's it's

1682
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:53,920
Speaker 1: a series. It don't mean a thing if you ain't

1683
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 1: got the ring, dude, I'm telling you, it's it's the

1684
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 1: best award. So yeah, the regular season MVP is great.

1685
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:01,360
Speaker 1: It's gonna go down you know you in record books.

1686
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:06,679
Speaker 1: Who cares. There's no better There's no better freaking honor

1687
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:11,280
Speaker 1: than being the NBA Finals MVP. I totally agree. I mean, Chauncey,

1688
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 1: I know you can't really say it because you won one,

1689
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:17,000
Speaker 1: and your argument would kind of suck if you, you know,

1690
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:19,639
Speaker 1: when you're on TV. But I'm like, I totally fucking agree.

1691
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:22,760
Speaker 1: I think this regular season m VP award it's dope. Like,

1692
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:24,840
Speaker 1: you know, if James Harden somehow won the regular season

1693
01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:27,760
Speaker 1: MVP and they won the finals, then that's something. But

1694
01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:30,840
Speaker 1: like Russ last year, who cares, not to say, who cares?

1695
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:33,599
Speaker 1: I mean, it's an accomplishment, but it's like Russell doesn't care.

1696
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:36,280
Speaker 1: Remember when Dirk won the regular season MVP and they

1697
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 1: got bumped out and then two days later he had

1698
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:40,599
Speaker 1: to get the regular season MVP when he was already

1699
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 1: half way in Cancoon crazy? Crazy? Yeah, that was crazy.

1700
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:47,280
Speaker 1: I mean and you know, like Andrea Goodala won the

1701
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 1: finals MVP, he should have they won the finals. That's

1702
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 1: a big deal, dude, that's a big deal. I mean,

1703
01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:55,479
Speaker 1: Lebron would get back that regular season m v P

1704
01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:58,920
Speaker 1: to get that big time, big time. And this is

1705
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:03,160
Speaker 1: you know speaking this, This is why I really believe

1706
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:07,000
Speaker 1: that Kobe so badly wanted to win it all without

1707
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:11,519
Speaker 1: shock because he had never got that award Shack when

1708
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 1: they won those three of shock, he hadn't gotten that

1709
01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:18,400
Speaker 1: or that that award right there, he hadn't gotten And

1710
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 1: so I'm telling you, I guarantee that fuel some of

1711
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:25,080
Speaker 1: his fire man all right, based on everything we know,

1712
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 1: and hopefully everybody's healthy, Hopefully Tyler is back healthy, and

1713
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 1: hopefully everybody's fingers, thumbs and Clay Thompson this and Kevin

1714
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:37,640
Speaker 1: Durrance Ribs and whatever the heck is going on with

1715
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 1: other players. Based on everything we know, who are going

1716
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:44,519
Speaker 1: to be the two teams remaining in the West, who

1717
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:46,559
Speaker 1: are going to be the two teams remaining in the East,

1718
01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:49,639
Speaker 1: and who is going to walk away with the jewelry

1719
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 1: when we get to June. Well, I think it's pretty simple.

1720
01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 1: In the West, it's gonna be Houston and it's gonna

1721
01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 1: be going State. And who wins that if everybody's if

1722
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 1: everybody's everybody's healthy, I still think the Warriors win it.

1723
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 1: And here's why I think, and you when you really

1724
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:10,000
Speaker 1: break down the game, Houston does a lot of picking rolling, right,

1725
01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:11,560
Speaker 1: They're gonna pick and roll, pick and roll, try to

1726
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:14,320
Speaker 1: get an advantage, won't kick into the three if they don't,

1727
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:17,720
Speaker 1: they ice so well. The lineup that the Warriors put

1728
01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 1: in the game is you never get an advantage on

1729
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 1: the picking roll because they switch everything so they make

1730
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:26,559
Speaker 1: you play is so basketball and their defense is too good.

1731
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:33,400
Speaker 1: You can't beat them. Ice so basketball absolutely, because they

1732
01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:36,360
Speaker 1: take you out of so much of your stuff, and

1733
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:41,479
Speaker 1: albeit maybe undersized and in the paint, they're so good

1734
01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:44,839
Speaker 1: that they make you play under sized, they make you adjust.

1735
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:46,720
Speaker 1: They don't let you have a big guy out there

1736
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:48,760
Speaker 1: because if they do, guess what, oh they got the

1737
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:50,840
Speaker 1: big bring them up here in this picking roll. It's

1738
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:53,000
Speaker 1: just step down now and you can scored two three times. Bone,

1739
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 1: let's get them out of here. So they really dictate

1740
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 1: the way that you're gonna play. And now that you're

1741
01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 1: this height, now we switch everything. Now we got no

1742
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 1: missing We're good. So they they're just good man. And

1743
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:09,400
Speaker 1: I really like Houston, to be honest with you, And

1744
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 1: there's no guy in the league that I want to

1745
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:15,720
Speaker 1: win more than Chris Paul. You know, first it was

1746
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:17,560
Speaker 1: k D because he hadn't got over the hump. I

1747
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:20,280
Speaker 1: was happy he wanted. Chris Paul is another guy who

1748
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:22,680
Speaker 1: I played with who is just a warrior man like

1749
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 1: he's a scrappy little joker, and I will really would

1750
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:28,679
Speaker 1: like to see him win. But I think they maybe

1751
01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:31,599
Speaker 1: need another year together to get there. I mean, other

1752
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:33,800
Speaker 1: than Trevor reason, they don't have a champion on the roster,

1753
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:36,800
Speaker 1: you know, so we'll we'll see how they are in

1754
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:39,720
Speaker 1: those moments. But that's gonna be that that should be

1755
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:43,120
Speaker 1: a good series. Man, it's okay. Are they an X factor?

1756
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:46,280
Speaker 1: They have a chance they you know what they are

1757
01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:49,080
Speaker 1: an ex factor. They're gonna be a tough out for

1758
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:51,360
Speaker 1: one of those teams. Man, there'll be a tough out.

1759
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 1: We'll just see. I mean, I'm always kind of a

1760
01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:58,599
Speaker 1: little curious how they are down the stretch of games.

1761
01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:01,120
Speaker 1: You know, Ruskin kind of beat himself up and get

1762
01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:04,080
Speaker 1: a little out of control at times, um and take

1763
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 1: a bad shot or turn the ball over at the

1764
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:08,240
Speaker 1: tough part of the game. But those are things you

1765
01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:10,400
Speaker 1: live with with a great player, you know. It's just

1766
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:13,720
Speaker 1: that that's what you live with. But Mellows clutch, he

1767
01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 1: can bring you home late in the game. He can

1768
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 1: still get a bucket Paul George's clutch. They're gonna be

1769
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:22,200
Speaker 1: a tough out, man, Yeah, they I mean they rebound

1770
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:26,040
Speaker 1: better than anybody. Adams is Oh my goodness, have you

1771
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:28,320
Speaker 1: ever seen and you're using the NBA now covering, have

1772
01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 1: you ever seen somebody with his bigger head Steven Adams?

1773
01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:33,679
Speaker 1: That's head, man, He got a he got a helmet

1774
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:37,080
Speaker 1: on him. Man. I mean that guy's a goon. He's

1775
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:40,240
Speaker 1: a goon. Okay in the East, is it even a

1776
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:46,400
Speaker 1: conversation just Toronto. They have a chance, yes, rap, they

1777
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:49,080
Speaker 1: do to beat Cleveland. They have a chance. Rap. Yeah,

1778
01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:50,960
Speaker 1: they're different this year and they're different this year. And

1779
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:55,600
Speaker 1: here's why. Their bench it's big. So previous years, you know,

1780
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:58,880
Speaker 1: Kyle Laar had his struggles in the playoffs. Tomorrow might

1781
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 1: have a series he didn't great. That bench this year, man,

1782
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:06,679
Speaker 1: has really really been good. Um. So if your starters

1783
01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:09,839
Speaker 1: can play, you know, even with the other team, starters

1784
01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:11,679
Speaker 1: and that bench comes and they're gonna have an advantage

1785
01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:14,960
Speaker 1: all day. They push it a little bit. They got

1786
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:19,040
Speaker 1: a shot, you know, especially with Cleveland situation. They fighting time. Man,

1787
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 1: you know your coaches down, Yeah, they got a lot

1788
01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:28,160
Speaker 1: of issues. Man. Now, just tell me this. What's the

1789
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 1: biggest difference between like the Eastern Conference Western Conference finals

1790
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:36,879
Speaker 1: and the regular season in terms of basketball? The innuit

1791
01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:39,920
Speaker 1: is the details? What's what? Now? Forget you're right now,

1792
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:42,240
Speaker 1: like what are the what is the difference? And is

1793
01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 1: there a difference? Is it just a mistake of like

1794
01:39:44,160 --> 01:39:46,040
Speaker 1: what is it get a little bit more physical? Are

1795
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:47,880
Speaker 1: you allowed to put a little hand check on it?

1796
01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:50,439
Speaker 1: Gets a little more physical? Rap? But here the biggest

1797
01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:54,960
Speaker 1: difference is this who can stay focused the longest. If

1798
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:56,600
Speaker 1: you watch a game right now, you go stay with

1799
01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:59,200
Speaker 1: center right now and watch a game. There might be

1800
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:01,720
Speaker 1: laps as a six or seven minutes where guys are

1801
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:05,400
Speaker 1: turned over here there, or they you know, they missed

1802
01:40:05,439 --> 01:40:09,080
Speaker 1: their defensive assignment, or the gap was open they turned

1803
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:12,439
Speaker 1: it up like there made there's some gaps there. When

1804
01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:15,599
Speaker 1: you get that deep in the playoffs, it's who can

1805
01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:20,720
Speaker 1: be focused the longest, because that little if it's a

1806
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:25,840
Speaker 1: thirty minute, little gasp for a minute, three possessions, it's

1807
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:29,320
Speaker 1: gonna get you beat. It's gonna get you beat big time,

1808
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna get you beat. So it really does come

1809
01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:35,040
Speaker 1: down to little things like that. Man, when you're getting

1810
01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:39,200
Speaker 1: that deep in the playoffs. You know, a bad shot here, Boom,

1811
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:42,920
Speaker 1: they swung it around one time, Corver wide open in

1812
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:45,760
Speaker 1: the corner. Jr. Catches it on the rotation, shoots it,

1813
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:48,760
Speaker 1: misses it, But you had a a neck a three

1814
01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:51,000
Speaker 1: for Corver in the corner. Who's your best corner three

1815
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:53,439
Speaker 1: point shooter? Well you could have been. You was on

1816
01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:55,720
Speaker 1: a four old run. That could be a seven old run.

1817
01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:58,760
Speaker 1: As opposed to boom, quick outlet bone they score quick

1818
01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:01,040
Speaker 1: now boom down three, up three. When those kinds of

1819
01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:04,640
Speaker 1: things happen, like you're you're doing a fictional thing of

1820
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:06,840
Speaker 1: like what j are not passing? It could be anybody

1821
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 1: could be You could be anybody when you when you're

1822
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:11,760
Speaker 1: at that level, are you realizing that it's happening? Right then?

1823
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:13,839
Speaker 1: Do you need to tape? Are you in the shower?

1824
01:41:14,120 --> 01:41:15,400
Speaker 1: Or is like do you know what I'm saying? These

1825
01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:19,240
Speaker 1: these mistakes that these costly mistakes? Is it most of

1826
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:20,800
Speaker 1: the time, Like when you think of the ones you've

1827
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:23,120
Speaker 1: made or the one you've seen, did they realize it

1828
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:27,680
Speaker 1: right then? No? Right, because you're at the moment, you're

1829
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:30,600
Speaker 1: all you're you're rock and rolling, you rolling, You're not

1830
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:32,880
Speaker 1: you're not thinking like that at the moment. But the

1831
01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:34,960
Speaker 1: teams that do think that way, they've got three or

1832
01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:36,880
Speaker 1: four guys on the floor that with that high i

1833
01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:40,400
Speaker 1: Q that's really thinking the game. Those are the teams

1834
01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:46,120
Speaker 1: that win. All right, This is it Former Finals m

1835
01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:49,400
Speaker 1: v P, which we both agree is the most important

1836
01:41:49,400 --> 01:41:52,680
Speaker 1: award in all of basketball, no disrespect to all the

1837
01:41:52,760 --> 01:41:56,280
Speaker 1: great regular season m vps. Call him Mr. Big Shot,

1838
01:41:56,400 --> 01:42:00,240
Speaker 1: call him smooth. ESPN could be a GM, could be

1839
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:03,320
Speaker 1: a commissioner. Playing in the Big Three now, Chauncey, I

1840
01:42:03,439 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 1: call it as I see it. Okay, we're going from

1841
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:07,560
Speaker 1: worst the first. I'm just letting you know that in

1842
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:09,559
Speaker 1: the Big Three, we're going from worst to first this year.

1843
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:12,479
Speaker 1: Call that. I call it as I see. You're my man.

1844
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:14,760
Speaker 1: But when I'm on the sideline, if I see you

1845
01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:17,280
Speaker 1: huffing and puffing, I'm gonna say it. Last year, I

1846
01:42:17,360 --> 01:42:19,560
Speaker 1: might have been pulling punchers. This year, I think the

1847
01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:23,320
Speaker 1: gloves are off this year. I'm just saying this. If

1848
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:25,200
Speaker 1: you want to get like they're getting shape through some

1849
01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:27,439
Speaker 1: wind sprints, do some suits, you let me know because

1850
01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:28,840
Speaker 1: you guys need to be ready because this year, I

1851
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:30,320
Speaker 1: don't care if you're my friends. I don't care if

1852
01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:32,960
Speaker 1: you're on the podcast. I see something. I see a

1853
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:35,599
Speaker 1: guy who's not prepared. I see, oh, you didn't tell

1854
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:38,439
Speaker 1: your shoelaces up too tight today, Chauncy. I'm calling it

1855
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:41,439
Speaker 1: as I see it. Big Three Season two, That right,

1856
01:42:41,720 --> 01:42:44,679
Speaker 1: that's it. I'm glad you let me know right away.

1857
01:42:44,840 --> 01:42:47,960
Speaker 1: I'm letting you know in the lab right away, Chauncey, billups.

1858
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:50,840
Speaker 1: I appreciate you rocking me on the podcast, My man,

1859
01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 1: all right, cool, all right, Chauncey Billups, Mr. Big Show

1860
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:03,120
Speaker 1: A K A Smooth, Thank you for rocking me on

1861
01:43:03,160 --> 01:43:06,960
Speaker 1: the Iron Rapports Stereo Podcast. Nothing but continued success, nothing

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Speaker 1: but love and respect. Chauncey Billips, thank you, thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you for coming on the show. Ge Moody, last

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Speaker 1: name rhymes with duty. Listen, people, I want you to

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Speaker 1: hit us up. You know where to find us Twitter, Instagram,

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Speaker 1: d m us. I am rapp Report podcast at gmail

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Speaker 1: dot com. Let me know, let us know who you

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Speaker 1: think should be today's sickest sick funk of the week.

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Speaker 1: Chauncey again, thanks for rocking. G Moody, last name rhymes

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Speaker 1: with duty. You got anything else to say? Oh that's it, man,

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Speaker 1: you did all the talking. All right. Well, I'm waiting here,

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Speaker 1: I'm waiting. I know, I know you're you're you're soaking

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Speaker 1: your muscles because you're sore, because you're gonna be dunking

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Speaker 1: in a basketball court real soon, dunking the ball in

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Speaker 1: early May, Miles Jordan's take us out of here with

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Speaker 1: a Smacker with a Banger. Chauncey again, thanks for rocking

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Speaker 1: with us. See Iron Rapports Stereo Podcast in prime time, Deputn,

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Speaker 1: Deputien and the depth and the depth, and then Deputnt

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Speaker 1: the depth, and then the deputienn epith