Speaker 1: Well, well, well, NBA media days are officially pawned us
Speaker 1: and we're back breaking down the Atlantic.
Speaker 2: Hey.
Speaker 1: Look, the Pistons had to catch a straight today on
Speaker 1: this media day it turned out, and we're doing an
Speaker 1: Atlantic Division breakdown with Sparra Haney on today's episode.
Speaker 2: I'm Miles Gray and I'm Jack O'Brien and this is.
Speaker 3: Jack.
Speaker 1: Sorry, got it.
Speaker 2: Look at the h t K.
Speaker 1: Driving spinning Tyler number eighteen that's been secure the Celtic
Speaker 1: or NBA champions over the.
Speaker 2: Couple team to be.
Speaker 1: Honest with the term look a shot time.
Speaker 2: What's you go?
Speaker 1: Yes, very Haney, welcome back to the show. You're currently
Speaker 1: covering the Raptors for Forbes, amongst other things. It's good
Speaker 1: to have you back as we talk about the Atlantic Division,
Speaker 1: because truth be told, I'm a bit behind on knowing
Speaker 1: what is happening with the Toronto Raptors and I need
Speaker 1: someone from your expertise to help break it down and
Speaker 1: wondering if you know, if the fans have a reason
Speaker 1: to be nervous or hopeful or maybe both. I think
Speaker 1: why not all things, but anyway, it's good to have
Speaker 1: you back.
Speaker 2: Man, appreciate you guys having me, man, just for context,
Speaker 2: are you a lifelong Raptors fan? Is that? What's your
Speaker 2: relationship with the Raptors. It's kind of weird.
Speaker 3: I so I started off being a Lakers fan very
Speaker 3: very early in my career because like I just started yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: because I was smart and I knew what I was doing. No,
Speaker 3: when I was like seven or eight years old, Kobe
Speaker 3: was the guy. Obviously this was that.
Speaker 2: At eighty one.
Speaker 3: I was like ten when he did that, and it
Speaker 3: was crazy. Yes, yeah, yeah, but I was always kind
Speaker 3: of like affiliated love the Lakers. And then yeah, eventually,
Speaker 3: just because I live here, became a Raptors fan, and
Speaker 3: now I I covered the team.
Speaker 1: Man. Pretty wild story, I guess, yeah, living the dream. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2: So you didn't get into the Raptors via Jurassic Park
Speaker 2: like I did. No, wait, like the movie or that's
Speaker 2: how I got got Basketball's wait what that movie?
Speaker 1: And I was like, wait, they played basketball and they're
Speaker 1: not even messing up the ball with their claws.
Speaker 3: You know, it's crazy. So I didn't. I didn't make
Speaker 3: that connection for a while. I always thought they got
Speaker 3: the Purple Dinosaur from Barney.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where I.
Speaker 3: Got the connection. From because I was a little kid.
Speaker 3: I was much much younger. Yeah, so I always thought
Speaker 3: that was the connection, but it was not.
Speaker 2: They were like, you know, who looks like he could ball? Barney?
Speaker 1: What I mean, what didn't did it have to do
Speaker 1: a Jurassic Park? The naming of it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always assumed that it was because it was
Speaker 2: like around that time that they came into the league, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 1: They totally vote on the name, right. Wasn't there like
Speaker 1: a thing where everyone yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they almost became the raccoons. They they I thought
Speaker 3: spiders was Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: Lie, raccoons would have been super dope.
Speaker 1: Spiders even better though, I mean, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: the nicknames would have gotten real problematic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Toronto Raccoons.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: That seems like a joke. Jersey. Yeah, that's crazy. The
Speaker 1: coons just doesn't have that rate to it, like the
Speaker 1: rap Right, what were saying? What else could it do? Spiders?
Speaker 1: Like spiders University of Richmond.
Speaker 3: I think like otters or something like that. That was
Speaker 3: I'm glad that didn't happen to yeah wait yeah yeah beavers.
Speaker 3: It probably thought like towers. I know, Toronto Towers was
Speaker 3: a big thing. They want to do that for the
Speaker 3: w NBA team potentially, We'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: But you just got to go after size if that's
Speaker 2: your team name, though, Yeah, can't. You don't have the
Speaker 2: luxury to be like a perimeter, you know, quick team,
Speaker 2: you have size as if you had gone with the
Speaker 2: t Rexes. But raptors, which, by the way, like raptors
Speaker 2: probably like the six eight swing men, athletic perimeter, small
Speaker 2: forwards who can play any position of the dinosaur world,
Speaker 2: which is kind of how the raptors have always been, right,
Speaker 2: they just stay in that raptor I'm just saying, we
Speaker 2: believe in nominative determinism. Where like people named Dennis become dentists,
Speaker 2: I think the Raptors have built their team become based
Speaker 2: around their team nickname.
Speaker 3: So like Lakers would be just a bunch of people
Speaker 3: who enjoy la.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, just like not great The Lake Show. I
Speaker 2: don't know, I didn't think through it.
Speaker 1: I'm just.
Speaker 2: Lucky, right, you know, The Lake Show wet from beyond
Speaker 2: the arc.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Okay, I like that. Warriors Warriors, yes, exactly,
Speaker 1: pretty straightforward.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think these all were Houston Rockets, rocket, you know,
Speaker 2: rocketing success, the magic.
Speaker 1: Obviously, the jazz I think really music, you know, very definitely.
Speaker 2: A free flowing form of basketball.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, so free, so free. But like, yeah,
Speaker 1: so around the league. We got a media day. They
Speaker 1: have become they have begun the Celtics start. Did you
Speaker 1: catch Jalen Brown's spicy commentary a little bit there.
Speaker 3: I only saw the thing he said about the Olympics
Speaker 3: as like, yeah, do we really have to ask that
Speaker 3: question right now? I didn't see anything else, So what
Speaker 3: else did he say?
Speaker 1: He looked at the Detroit Pistons. Unfortunately, we're catching strays.
Speaker 1: This is he was. It was interesting. He was just
Speaker 1: talking about bench players and he's like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: we'll play teams like, you know, no disrespect the Pistons
Speaker 1: and you know, and our guys that need some time,
Speaker 1: you know, they can get out there. It was very
Speaker 1: It was a little bit harder.
Speaker 3: Than that, and a lot of anytime anytime someone says
Speaker 3: no disrespect, you mean.
Speaker 2: Get ready to be full body disrespected, right.
Speaker 1: And then I mean big thing too. Affecting the world
Speaker 1: of basketball journalism, WOJ resigned from ESPN to to head
Speaker 1: over to Saint Bonaventure as the men's basketball team's general manager,
Speaker 1: which is I'm okay, I like that. I mean I
Speaker 1: don't know what that Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean clearly he wants it. I don't know what's
Speaker 2: going on in ESPN that this was, you know, but
Speaker 2: we'll just say, well, just purely what a run a
Speaker 2: tip of the hat twenty and nine to twenty twenty four,
Speaker 2: the WOJ bomb was, you know, like iconic. Yeah, just
Speaker 2: like built a career to retire early man, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: I mean if that's what this is, that's dope. And
Speaker 2: you know who builds a like job like that that
Speaker 2: didn't exist, Like one sports reporter who just had all
Speaker 2: the scoops and all the information like that didn't exist
Speaker 2: like that just that was like a thing that happened
Speaker 2: in like sixties movies where they're like his name is
Speaker 2: Scoops and he gets to the bottom of everything and
Speaker 2: like you know, he's a famous reporter. Yeah, but like
Speaker 2: he created a name where like you knew a WOJ
Speaker 2: bomb was coming, Like that was it? Uh oh yeah,
Speaker 2: something something important was happening to.
Speaker 1: The point that like it's informed sports journalism like in
Speaker 1: many other sports like that sort of insider thing of
Speaker 1: like who has the juice like that to be able
Speaker 1: to get these kinds of scoops? So yeah, WOJ, we salute.
Speaker 2: Yeah Adam speaking of other sports, I feel like Adam
Speaker 2: Schefter or whoever the NFL equivalent was like was talking.
Speaker 2: He's all him like talking about WOJ and like he
Speaker 2: was like, you don't know what we put up with. Man,
Speaker 2: you never had your phone pressed against the shower door
Speaker 2: because you're expecting a text from like a team GM
Speaker 2: and you just like can't. Like he just seemed like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I've always assumed, Yeah, I've never thought about
Speaker 2: Woold's job and been like that looks like fun like that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that thing probably makes you age like the bad guy
Speaker 2: from Men in Black, Like yeah, like you know like
Speaker 2: that that can't be good for the body where you're
Speaker 2: just like staring at your phone twenty four hours a
Speaker 2: day for entire like large chunks of the year, and.
Speaker 1: It's got to be like just the you know, like
Speaker 1: so stressful, like we're like, Noah, when's the next one.
Speaker 1: I got to get the next bomb? Ready? Yeah, where's
Speaker 1: the next bomb coming from?
Speaker 3: I'm kind of curious to see what happens with Shams then,
Speaker 3: because like Shops is like, what, uh, he's twenty something.
Speaker 3: He's probably in his thirties now maybe right, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Don't really thirties. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So so he's been doing this for like ten years now, right,
Speaker 3: does he have that longevity in him to go to
Speaker 3: Woja's age?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Man, to my previous point, WOJ twenty nine years old.
Speaker 2: He just looks that way because of how hard this.
Speaker 1: Exactly that's the job I mean started when he was fourteen,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean that first that first bomb.
Speaker 2: D first bomb draft. Someone needs to do like a
Speaker 2: biopic about him, you know, just like the origin story
Speaker 2: of WOJ.
Speaker 3: It'll happen. It'll happen for sure, no question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that also around the league, Joel
Speaker 2: Embiid Joel is it. I don't know how to pronounce
Speaker 2: this guy's name's mbi'd. He talk about NBA basketball. Mbi'd
Speaker 2: has agreed to a three year, one hundred and ninety
Speaker 2: three million dollar deal with my Philadelphia seventy six ers
Speaker 2: will keep Embiid in Philly through the twenty eight twenty
Speaker 2: nine season if he ultimately picks up his player option
Speaker 2: for sixty nine million dollars at age thirty five.
Speaker 1: I'll take that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I still have a brain that can't
Speaker 2: conceive of the future, and so that's never going to happen.
Speaker 2: But it does seem like it will keep him happy
Speaker 2: for the next couple seasons, which is when we need
Speaker 2: him to be happy. But I don't know. I guess
Speaker 2: we'll get into the sixers in our Atlantic Division preview.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would basically be the next presidential election cycle
Speaker 1: is when that one is up.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, that's going to be like the fall
Speaker 1: of the next presidential election twenty eight. Anyway, a lot
Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 2: So on Celtics media day, did they mentioned some Olympics stuff.
Speaker 2: I actually didn't catch that what happened there because I
Speaker 2: do think I don't know, like with a team as
Speaker 2: dominant as the Celtics, you got to look for like
Speaker 2: little fissures that we can poke into and hope and
Speaker 2: be like big Press. But I so my hopes as
Speaker 2: a Celtic ruder against her is Jason Tatum's inability to
Speaker 2: shoot from outside continues to stay with him, which like
Speaker 2: that was real over the in the Olympics. He think
Speaker 2: he wou like, oh for thirteen fourteen from.
Speaker 3: Three playoffs too. I think he saw like twenty nine
Speaker 3: percent on pull ups or something crazy like that.
Speaker 2: So that would be great if he continued to not
Speaker 2: be able to shoot very well. And then Jalen Brown obviously,
Speaker 2: you know, seemed to take it very personally that he
Speaker 2: wasn't on the Olympics team. I feel like that could
Speaker 2: go the other direction and he'll just be mad, and yeah.
Speaker 1: Sometimes playing mad can be a bit of an engine
Speaker 1: for someone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like after someone doesn't make an All Star team
Speaker 2: and then like just goes on a tear.
Speaker 3: I honestly think the biggest hole, I mean, question or
Speaker 3: whatever you want to call about the Celtics is the
Speaker 3: Porzingis situation because he he's not going to be back
Speaker 3: to like January, you know, the and I know it
Speaker 3: didn't matter much in the playoffs, but in the regular season,
Speaker 3: and you're probably not going to be stacking up as
Speaker 3: much wins as you did when he was available. And
Speaker 3: then you're relying on a one year older Al Horford,
Speaker 3: he's like nearly forty. He's he's fighting with he said.
Speaker 1: Hey, some of us are out here, you know, we're
Speaker 1: out here.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, you know, you're you're not trying to
Speaker 3: play some basketball though.
Speaker 1: I mean I am, and the Lakers won't give me
Speaker 1: a try out. Bro And I said, Bron's about to
Speaker 1: be forty. Not even South Bay, not even South Bay Man,
Speaker 1: not just South Bay wreck leagues anyway, that's disrespectful.
Speaker 3: But look, yeah, no, look, I think Porzingis question is
Speaker 3: is the big thing with the Celtics is like, who
Speaker 3: are they going to rely on in the front court.
Speaker 3: You know, obviously they have this guy in the Maya's
Speaker 3: Kita they're interested in. I think Luke Cornett's going to
Speaker 3: get some minutes, but that's tough. Like, how are you
Speaker 3: going to pull out the Cornets contest? Yes, you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: the corner three contests with the two hands.
Speaker 2: I love it all this, Yeah, where he jumps in
Speaker 2: the middle of the lane. The rest of the shooters
Speaker 2: of the Atlantic Division are on notice. So, I mean,
Speaker 2: we'll talk Celtics, we'll talk next, we'll talk Sixers, Raptors,
Speaker 2: we might even talk Nets. We're going to take a
Speaker 2: quick break and then we'll come back and talk Atlantic Division.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back, and we're back.
Speaker 1: We're back.
Speaker 2: So I mean, I think we've been pretty open, like
Speaker 2: this is the one thing that this podcast can agree on.
Speaker 2: Like you're you're a Lakers fan, Miles, I'm a Sixers fan,
Speaker 2: but we are a don't like the Celtics podcast. I
Speaker 2: do not want them to do well.
Speaker 3: We're all in agreeance there. Yeah, raptists, people don't really
Speaker 3: like Celtics.
Speaker 2: People either unite all the Kingdom, I mean America. The
Speaker 2: one thing America can agree on, except for like one
Speaker 2: percent who live around Boston, is we don't want to
Speaker 2: see the Celtics repeat as champions.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: That does seem like the most likely occurrence. I know
Speaker 2: people talk about it being very difficult to repeat. They
Speaker 2: certainly haven't been able to do it in a long time.
Speaker 2: But they won sixty four games last year. This year,
Speaker 2: they're projected to win fifty nine and a half wins.
Speaker 2: I disagree with that. I think it's either going to
Speaker 2: be fifty nine or sixty. I don't see it being
Speaker 2: fifty nine and a half.
Speaker 1: I don't know how that's mathematically possible, Like it's just
Speaker 1: never happened before, so it's weird that they keep predicting that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean as like you said, the reason
Speaker 2: it makes sense for them to go down five wins
Speaker 2: four wins is Porzingis is out until January February March
Speaker 2: April May to port why cleft.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see you crying, but girl, I can't stay.
Speaker 3: I'm taking the under on the fifty nine and a
Speaker 3: half too on a wow. I say that because I
Speaker 3: think the East has gotten better overall, too, like even
Speaker 3: the excluding the Brooklyn Nets and Washington Wizards and maybe
Speaker 3: even the Detroit Pistons, although I think the Pistons got Bay.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, they already caught us straight.
Speaker 2: You're right, You're right.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: We love you.
Speaker 2: And the Hawks of course, and the Hawks and the Bulls.
Speaker 2: The Hornets, you know, Hornet and the Bulls also probably bad,
Speaker 2: but then then their lasers could always get hurt.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I honestly think that he's got better, but
Speaker 3: it's not as good as the West. And I ultimately
Speaker 3: think like they're not going to win as many games
Speaker 3: as they had last season. Like it's just as simple
Speaker 3: as that sixty four was great. It was, I believe,
Speaker 3: if not the best, the second best in Celtics history
Speaker 3: or third best. I think between the eighty six Celtics
Speaker 3: and then the eight Celtics and then this one. So
Speaker 3: there's just it's tough to win sixty plus games and
Speaker 3: the NBA too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, they were a historically great team last
Speaker 2: year like that. The whole season, We're just looking at
Speaker 2: their stats and being like, oh my god, this is
Speaker 2: this is bad for everyone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because if they if they're near that kind of form,
Speaker 1: like we're looking at like a true aberration, as I
Speaker 1: would described it, like something I do. I don't know
Speaker 1: what is going on if they find another level, But I.
Speaker 3: Think it's also just it you get tired, man, like this,
Speaker 3: it becomes less challenging, and I do feel like, you know,
Speaker 3: Jyalen Brown even said it with the whole Pistons thing,
Speaker 3: they might prioritize playing Peyton Pritchard and Sam Houser and
Speaker 3: that Baylor Shireman guy that they drafted a little bit
Speaker 3: more to give these Guysman, that's a cool name. That
Speaker 3: is the Celtics name if I've ever seen one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is like if they did a Ireland specific
Speaker 2: remake of Game of Thrones. Baylon Shireman a man, it's
Speaker 2: a little on the nose from.
Speaker 1: The shire man. Stop asking questions. But yeah, back to
Speaker 1: that thing, like you that Jalen Brown quote, he was
Speaker 1: truly being He's like, yeah, man, and that's what happens, dude.
Speaker 1: I think quote was, we're gonna play it through Peyton,
Speaker 1: let him go for thirty, play through Sam, let him
Speaker 1: shoot like ten three pointers.
Speaker 3: Oh that's sad man.
Speaker 2: I will say this is the youngest championship team we've
Speaker 2: seen trying to repeat in terms of like their main
Speaker 2: pieces in Jalen and Jason the Jays. The thing that
Speaker 2: always scares me is like heading into last season, somebody
Speaker 2: was like, oh, by the way, just like I know
Speaker 2: everybody's like, should the Celtics blow it up? Should they
Speaker 2: break up Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown? Just a reminder
Speaker 2: that like this was the year in terms of their
Speaker 2: age that like Jordan and Pippens started winning titles. So
Speaker 2: there's always that there's always a chance that they're just
Speaker 2: like they're just that we're about to like, yeah, three
Speaker 2: in a row right now.
Speaker 1: You know in Jurassic Park where they see the cup
Speaker 1: of water like kind of vibrates, Yeah, yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: you saw. Yeah yeah, yeah, the next one you're gonna
Speaker 1: look up in moon roof of your explorer and a
Speaker 1: t rex head is going to push your whole life
Speaker 1: in so.
Speaker 3: Many Jurassic Park references today.
Speaker 1: I love. Yeah, It's just it is what it is,
Speaker 1: baby Gilbert Man. So I guess you know S has
Speaker 1: given me the the the confidence that I think I
Speaker 1: will pick the under because I do like some of
Speaker 1: the other teams in the East a lot like I'm
Speaker 1: really got my eye on Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think I'm not going to say they're gonna be
Speaker 2: like the best team that ever played, but I think
Speaker 2: they're gonna win like seventy four to seventy five games
Speaker 2: next year and it's over for all of us.
Speaker 1: You're going for the over because it's over, and for
Speaker 1: good reason. We are afraid of the Boston Celtics.
Speaker 2: I am afraid of the Celtics. I do. I do
Speaker 2: think obviously they were much better with Porzingis, but I
Speaker 2: don't know. I have to think, like the Knicks are
Speaker 2: probably going to be playing for like the best record
Speaker 2: in the East. I have to hope that the seventy
Speaker 2: six are not that foolish and are going to be
Speaker 2: resting in for Milwaukee. Anybody also a possibility, but we
Speaker 2: are not talking about Milwaukee today. I forgot they existed
Speaker 2: until you just said that, because this is our Atlantic Division.
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, man, sure you aren't of Brewers all right?
Speaker 2: Up next in terms of likely win total this year,
Speaker 2: and yeah, it's the New York Knicks. And I feel
Speaker 2: like just generally the consensus of like who people are
Speaker 2: most excited about, we get the New York Knicks. That
Speaker 2: they also had the next most wins last year, fifty
Speaker 2: last year, projected to hit fifty three point five this season.
Speaker 2: They acquired McHale Bridges, which I think a lot of
Speaker 2: people are like, he's going to be a nice addition
Speaker 2: to their offense, but he's also going to be one
Speaker 2: of the better defenders on their team, if not the
Speaker 2: best perimeter defender on their team. I mean, probably not
Speaker 2: the best. That's probably still ogi. But they're, yeah, they're
Speaker 2: gonna be really good. Uh and we're already pretty good.
Speaker 3: There's always that one team that like tries very hard
Speaker 3: in the regular season, and I can't think of a
Speaker 3: better thing to describe a Tom Thibodeau team. So yeah,
Speaker 3: they're like, I could see we look back up on
Speaker 3: this in April and they've won sixty games and they've
Speaker 3: just tried really hard, and they're the one seed and
Speaker 3: there's you know, there's a whole like one seed Eastern
Speaker 3: Conference curse thing too, which didn't apply to the Celtics
Speaker 3: last year. But I don't know. I think I think
Speaker 3: there's a chance they could just go all out in
Speaker 3: the regular season, even though they have the whole Mitchell
Speaker 3: Robinson injury and not having tons of center depth, and
Speaker 3: that'll be an issue just like it is for the Celtics.
Speaker 3: But I think the Knicks depth is crazy, like they
Speaker 3: could shack multiple different starting lineups even without Mitchell Robinson
Speaker 3: and it would make sense. And there's I don't know
Speaker 3: how you guys feel about this, but there's also the
Speaker 3: Julius Randall thing in the background of him wanting to
Speaker 3: get paid and will he get paid and all that
Speaker 3: type of stuff. I don't know how that impacts them,
Speaker 3: but I guess it is a question about the Knicks
Speaker 3: for this season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, like where do they you know, cash that
Speaker 1: out and see what they can get, you know, And.
Speaker 2: I mean they need a big right they lost Hartenstein
Speaker 2: last since last year that seems to be the one
Speaker 2: kind of question mark for them. Would love to see
Speaker 2: that be a big problem for them, especially once we
Speaker 2: get into the playoffs and they have to play the
Speaker 2: seventy six ers again. But they I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the Julius Randall question is is interesting. I feel like
Speaker 2: he's probably not the answer to the questions that this
Speaker 2: roster has and that they should probably figure out something else.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know who that's going to be.
Speaker 1: I mean, i should be someone from Villanova. I think,
Speaker 1: are there any.
Speaker 3: Good are there any good Villanova biggs as I'm.
Speaker 1: Just saying of the people that played with the other
Speaker 1: four Villanova players that were there at the same time,
Speaker 1: Let's see who is the center? Then? Uh boy, it's
Speaker 1: slim picks here. Yeah, I don't know. Is Keith van
Speaker 1: Horn around? He went to Nova? Maybe bring that give
Speaker 1: that guy a go horn? Yeah? Oh no, no, uh
Speaker 1: uh no no, no, I'm I'm saying Keith that Horne
Speaker 1: because he played on that team with Kerry Kittle's there. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to look. I'm just looking. I was because
Speaker 1: I was looking at the old Villanova rosters and I'm like,
Speaker 1: how is this possible? They have four guys that were
Speaker 1: playing together in college, and we were looking back at
Speaker 1: some of the like, I don't think anyone's ever had
Speaker 1: four people playing all together. Yeah, and producer Jabartie just said,
Speaker 1: there are no current Villanova bigs, so hey, you might
Speaker 1: have to settle for someone who didn't go to Nova.
Speaker 2: Yehi Sadik Bay, Michale Bridges. Yeah, man, that's tough for them.
Speaker 2: Kyle Lowry could come back. Uh, Cam Whitmore, he's six seven,
Speaker 2: that's something. Yeah, we were trying to name like another
Speaker 2: team that had four I remember, you know, my dad
Speaker 2: was an assistant on this team, but the Celtics after
Speaker 2: when so, I mean this is kind of comparable, right,
Speaker 2: So Patino leaves the University of Kentucky after winning a
Speaker 2: title there. Uh, Antoine Walker is already with the Celtics.
Speaker 2: He goes to the Celtics. He drafts Ron Mercer that year,
Speaker 2: and then a year later Walter McCarty comes along. All
Speaker 2: three people who played on the championship team with the
Speaker 2: coach of the championship team. That kind of yeah, that's
Speaker 2: about as close as we got. That one didn't work
Speaker 2: out quite as well as as this seems to be working.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's that was weird that like all those
Speaker 2: all those guys were we're together. I don't think it happens.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, yeah it doesn't. Yeah, it's very
Speaker 2: it's very weird, and it does seem to, I don't know,
Speaker 2: be working. They have some sort of connect that is
Speaker 2: frustrating where you're going with them in a play.
Speaker 1: It's seriously Yeah, it seems like I don't know who's
Speaker 1: ever had four, Like it's always just it feels like
Speaker 1: it always tops out at three. Yeah, so wow, good
Speaker 1: for all the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good for all them. I'm a big over on them,
Speaker 2: A big over. I think they're going to win seventy
Speaker 2: seventy one win games to seventy teams. That would be not.
Speaker 1: Night to night. Yeah, I definitely. I mean there, I've
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just like they've always been like my little
Speaker 1: my favorite like East Coast team. So like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: because I don't have nothing but anxiety about the Lakers.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely like yeah, yeah, I like then they're looking good.
Speaker 1: I like that. I like to see it. I like
Speaker 1: to see it. I like to see it.
Speaker 2: Tims. They should have to play in TIMS. That's always
Speaker 2: been my belief.
Speaker 1: I know we always talked about those rules that you
Speaker 1: should be able to introduce, like just the kind of
Speaker 1: level out of game, like if you go down twenty,
Speaker 1: like you can hit a panic button and then your
Speaker 1: opposition now has to playing tims or they play with
Speaker 1: a beach ball during their possessions. You can't do that thing.
Speaker 1: Good luck getting stuffed every time. But I guess we
Speaker 1: should move on, Jack. Are you willing and able to
Speaker 1: talk about your Philadelphia seventy six ers.
Speaker 2: I just never have been Miles, never had again. Yeah,
Speaker 2: let's go for it. Yeah, so they pushed Miles. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna use a poker metaphor here and I hope you
Speaker 2: don't mind, and it's gonna be pretty complicated and hard
Speaker 2: to follow. But the seventy six ers pushed all their
Speaker 2: chips into the middle here because they're they're going all
Speaker 2: in nice. Yeah, that's right. They brought Andre Drummond back
Speaker 2: back up to and they got Paul George, they got
Speaker 2: Caleb Martin. They did not lose Tyrese Maxey and Joe
Speaker 2: l Embiid will be back and fully healthy, and its
Speaker 2: promised to be healthy the whole season and into the playoffs.
Speaker 2: So I think we're good here, moving on.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's all seriousness. I mean this is having Tyresse, Maxi,
Speaker 1: Paul George and embiid. I think that looks pretty cool
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: Hey man, I think that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Pretty cool. Now are you? Are you doing the thing
Speaker 1: Jack where you're protecting your heart? You secretly do feel optimistic,
Speaker 1: but you can't let yourself get there for fear of
Speaker 1: total emotional collapse. Come the all Star break ish period
Speaker 1: or what? How do you feel good? Please tell me
Speaker 1: you feel great. I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: I am just the only realistic person when it comes
Speaker 1: to the seventy six ers. They have not been able
Speaker 1: to get out of the second round of the playoffs
Speaker 1: because of some manner of curse that was put on them.
Speaker 2: Who do you think put.
Speaker 3: The curse on Who's the Who's the Philadelphia curse?
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, that's a great that's a great question.
Speaker 2: But we all saw, I know you saw as they
Speaker 2: Leonard shot that killed me for like thirty seconds.
Speaker 3: Maybe it was Vince Carter who put the curse on them?
Speaker 3: You know, went to graduation two thousand and one.
Speaker 2: This shot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, guys, get a you guys get a finals run
Speaker 3: out of it. Yeah, stepping over Tyler. Maybe Tyler cursed them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be Tyler. These are all great theories.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Anyways, MB probably has the most health questions of any
Speaker 2: great player in the league in recent history. He just,
Speaker 2: you know, for a while there it was like bad
Speaker 2: luck where he would just like break his face, like
Speaker 2: multiple multiple times. Heading into the playoffs. He broke his
Speaker 2: face his rookie year, like that first year when he
Speaker 2: was just playing out of his mind, broke his face
Speaker 2: on I think MARKL. Fults, So it wasn't his rookieyears
Speaker 2: like his second or third, but broke his face on
Speaker 2: Markel Fultz and then broke his face on Pascal in
Speaker 2: the first round and got a concussion. But now he's
Speaker 2: also one of the heaviest players in the history of
Speaker 2: the league, and that is going to cause problems on
Speaker 2: a human body, and we're starting to see the lower
Speaker 2: body injuries pile up, and I don't know, I've always
Speaker 2: found it to be a uniquely harrowing experience to watch
Speaker 2: him land and now he's just like that much heavier.
Speaker 2: So it's yeah, you do you feel like they should.
Speaker 3: Rest him like no back to backs, no third game
Speaker 3: in four nites type of thing, none of that, Like
Speaker 3: just take off as many games as you play.
Speaker 2: Forty games this season, I don't know, you know, forty
Speaker 2: tops for me, I think he should think he should
Speaker 2: only Yeah, I think if they wanted to shut him
Speaker 2: down for you know, a big chunk of like if
Speaker 2: they if they're on a nice run and they're doing
Speaker 2: that like dipping in and out with embiid and like
Speaker 2: they feel like, Okay, we're winning it like a sixty
Speaker 2: percent clip. When Embid's out of the lineup, then let's
Speaker 2: let's do it. Let's shut him down for a couple months,
Speaker 2: have him just working on his body, because right now,
Speaker 2: it's the problem with that has been that when he's
Speaker 2: not playing, he's like getting in worse shape. And somehow
Speaker 2: we need to verse that trend. And I don't know
Speaker 2: if there's a possible way to do it because weight
Speaker 2: rooms and exercise have not been invented, so I no
Speaker 2: way to know really how to get around this problem
Speaker 2: of not being in shape.
Speaker 3: What is there over under when total thingy?
Speaker 2: So last year they won forty seven while he missed
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of games, right and this year they're
Speaker 2: projected to win thirty forty, they're projected to win fifty. Luck, man,
Speaker 2: this is hard. I am switching the numbers around.
Speaker 1: That can't be. That's thirty year five and a half.
Speaker 2: This year they're projected to win fifty three and a half,
Speaker 2: So a gain of six and a half wins, which
Speaker 2: some would argue is low based on the fact that
Speaker 2: they added Paul George, Caleb Martin lost to some people
Speaker 2: who have been not that productive for them, like Tobias
Speaker 2: Harris Well, I.
Speaker 1: Was going to say, can Paul George fill that Tobias
Speaker 1: Harris By, Yeah.
Speaker 2: No way to know, really, yeah, yeah, right, But I
Speaker 2: do think that they're baking in some of the health questions.
Speaker 2: I think the Sixers are probably a little closer to
Speaker 2: the Clippers than Sixers fans would want to admit, you know,
Speaker 2: heading into the season at this point where like the
Speaker 2: Clippers are like, what, we just know that they're not
Speaker 2: going to be healthy, So why are we even even
Speaker 2: having this conversation? Like they should be projected, like the
Speaker 2: injuries should be built into their projections, and it seems
Speaker 2: like people are starting to do that with the seventy
Speaker 2: six ers. So for me, I am a huge over
Speaker 2: on this. I think seventy one seventy two wins for
Speaker 2: the seventy six ers, why seventy six? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: that would actually be cool and maybe that's something that
Speaker 2: they should do.
Speaker 1: Aime Hi Jack, you know you shame for seventy six
Speaker 1: you might hit fifty three and a half.
Speaker 2: I think fifty three is like right around where they
Speaker 2: could be. Yeah, even taking some injuries into account, it's
Speaker 2: tough with Like, if Paul George is injured throughout, then
Speaker 2: we have problems, and that has been a problem for
Speaker 2: him in the past.
Speaker 1: So how are you you optimistic? Are you when you
Speaker 1: look at this Philly team or are you kind of
Speaker 1: like I think.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, was really optimistic last year. I thought last year
Speaker 3: was the year. I'm like, you know what, they let
Speaker 3: go of Harden Max, He's going to take a leap
Speaker 3: this is and he did.
Speaker 2: He did take a leap.
Speaker 3: But you know, I thought that was going to be
Speaker 3: the year where they just kind of get lucky, embiid
Speaker 3: gets healthy and it happens. I still, unfortunately believe that
Speaker 3: that will sometime in the next couple of years happen,
Speaker 3: Like there will be a Dirk Noovitsky esque run for
Speaker 3: Embiid around the corner, because I really believe in Joel
Speaker 3: Embiid is like an incredible basketball player. But to Jack's point,
Speaker 3: like the man just cannot stay healthy and that is
Speaker 3: baked into everything that has to do with the Sixers.
Speaker 3: So I don't know, I don't know how I feel
Speaker 3: about them. I feel like I've believed so many years
Speaker 3: that I want to not believe this year and that
Speaker 3: like that's weird.
Speaker 2: That must be weird when specifically you have that feeling
Speaker 2: about this team.
Speaker 1: Jackson, you're definitely not a fan, dude. I like that.
Speaker 2: I like that interesting.
Speaker 3: Let me take myself away from it, like maybe I'm
Speaker 3: the Jinx, you know, maybe I'm the curse here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, keep and I do blame you, I know, I know.
Speaker 2: I just mean a lot of the worst things that
Speaker 2: have happened to this team have happened as the result
Speaker 2: of the Raptors. We of course have the Quhi shot,
Speaker 2: but we also have you know, his face being broken
Speaker 2: after hitting an amazing game winning shot, like everybody always
Speaker 2: talks about him like he's a complete like completely disappears
Speaker 2: in shrinks from the moment in the playoffs, he hit
Speaker 2: an amazing game winning shot to go up three to
Speaker 2: zero against the Rats where he's like falling out of bounds.
Speaker 2: Was just like here, I'm seven foot two, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: come get it and just hit a fade away three
Speaker 2: to like put you out of your misery. Did get
Speaker 2: his face broken the next game by Pascal Siakam.
Speaker 1: So he did.
Speaker 2: It was great.
Speaker 1: Well, who knows, maybe like the the reckoning or the
Speaker 1: rebalancing of the scales comes in the form of a
Speaker 1: former Raptor and Kyle Lowry and Philadelphia born.
Speaker 3: There we go maybe and maybe maybe that maybe things
Speaker 3: are right from North Philly to your city, as they.
Speaker 2: Say in Philadelphia. Yeah, all right, so I need to
Speaker 2: like go take a shower, so, uh we should, we
Speaker 2: should take a break. We'll come back. We'll talk about
Speaker 2: your Toronto Raptors. And we're back.
Speaker 1: We're back, and we're back.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh and we're back.
Speaker 1: Hey yo yo, yeah we.
Speaker 2: Are, and we're talking of course about the Toronto Raptors.
Speaker 1: Yeah twenty five wins. Yeah, correctly, yeah you are. Actually
Speaker 1: it's Toronto. That's how you sound like a herb Toronto. Yes,
Speaker 1: the second T is silent. Toronto. Yeah, uh so the
Speaker 1: Toronto Rappers. Wait, is the first tea in Raptors silent
Speaker 1: or not?
Speaker 3: You could if you want to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, speaking.
Speaker 1: Of Toronto Rappers. Twenty five wins?
Speaker 2: How many keys and Raptors?
Speaker 1: How many rs in Raptors? One? Huh?
Speaker 2: Anyway is one? What are you telling?
Speaker 1: A joke for those that listen to the other show.
Speaker 1: But yeah, twenty five wins last year. We're looking at
Speaker 1: a four to five and a half game bump for
Speaker 1: twenty nine and a half to thirty and a half
Speaker 1: wins according to the bookies at this moment. U s
Speaker 1: I mean, like I'm sometimes when I hear how Toronto
Speaker 1: fans are like, we had a good thing going and
Speaker 1: we got rid of pieces that we didn't replace. What
Speaker 1: is happening? Like, oh it sounds like the Lakers? Wait,
Speaker 1: hold on, man, I think I like them.
Speaker 2: How are you is there?
Speaker 1: Like? Is this what's happened?
Speaker 2: What is the state of what is going on in Toronto?
Speaker 3: I mean, look, it hasn't been a great year for
Speaker 3: for Toronto vibes, you know, not a great year as.
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, no idea, what you're talking about the
Speaker 2: fall of.
Speaker 3: The fall of a fellow road men, you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: just speaking of Toronto rappers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, round, but no talk about running through the
Speaker 2: streets with your woes. There's so many, got a lot
Speaker 2: of them these days.
Speaker 1: That was.
Speaker 2: Man, okay.
Speaker 3: Look, so for the uninitiated, they have an All Star
Speaker 3: in Scottie Barnes.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: They just traded last year for Emanual Quick leonar J Barrett.
Speaker 3: Both guys, despite only playing like thirty games at the
Speaker 3: second half of the season, played pretty well. Like in
Speaker 3: their roles, they played pretty pretty well. Unfortunately, they were
Speaker 3: not healthy and they didn't get to play. Actually, I
Speaker 3: think they probably wanted that. They wanted to tank to
Speaker 3: try to keep their pick. But this year it's rebuild.
Speaker 3: They have this new motto that says the future is now,
Speaker 3: and they got the thirtieth anniversary. They're doing the new jerseys.
Speaker 3: They're bringing back purple for a little bit. Vince Carter's
Speaker 3: jersey is getting retired. So there's gonna be a lot
Speaker 3: of fluff and pageantry likely you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: to cover some poor basketball. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: I do think they kind of have like an interesting
Speaker 3: little group going. What the ceiling of that group is
Speaker 3: really depends on if Scotty ends up becoming like an
Speaker 3: All NBA type player, if IQ or RJ take those
Speaker 3: leaps in their careers, we'll see. We have no idea,
Speaker 3: but it's equal parts exciting, equal parts relieving, because the
Speaker 3: last four or five years has been this sort of
Speaker 3: tread mill of mediocrity, if you will. With Pascal and
Speaker 3: Fred VanVleet and those guys, it just felt like that
Speaker 3: team was going nowhere. Uh So it's a reset, is
Speaker 3: a bit of a refresh to what we got for
Speaker 3: the next little bit. Well, I have no idea if
Speaker 3: that ends up being a championship for at this point,
Speaker 3: it doesn't seem like they have the tools to do that.
Speaker 3: They probably gotta suck a couple others a few more
Speaker 3: seasons to get you know, maybe a Cooper flag, maybe
Speaker 3: whoever else that's coming along the way. But yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, man, because like those both of those guys
Speaker 2: went to other teams and made them so much better,
Speaker 2: Like and Pascal Siak like that, even Fred like in Houston, yea, yeah,
Speaker 2: got a lot better. Like man, put those three together
Speaker 2: on a team in there. Yeah, you guys should think
Speaker 2: about undoing those traits I know, but yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 2: like I got. I could definitely see like those trades
Speaker 2: yielding something great. Scottie Barnes feels like he's a great
Speaker 2: third or maybe second best player on a championship team. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like he's just like a great like defender, like but
Speaker 2: probably not the guy.
Speaker 1: So I like it.
Speaker 2: I like where you guys are at. Plus we're looking
Speaker 2: at a second year dick. Oh yeah, oh yeah, he's
Speaker 2: girthy by the way, girth. Yeah, added some girth this year.
Speaker 2: I noticed he did a little better last year than
Speaker 2: I thought he did. He played in sixty games, twenty
Speaker 2: one minutes a game, eight and a half points, shooting
Speaker 2: thirty six and a half from three, So that's not nothing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, second half of the season it was like, I
Speaker 3: don't know, twelve thirteen points and then forty percent from three.
Speaker 3: So hopefully that translates over. They have so many young
Speaker 3: guys too, like just four rookies that they're trying to incorporate.
Speaker 3: A lot of those guys are going to see some
Speaker 3: G League minutes. But it's it's like starting new and
Speaker 3: seeing what sticks really for this Raptors team. And I
Speaker 3: think you said the over under was like twenty nine
Speaker 3: and a half, right, Yeah, I would not be surprised
Speaker 3: if they hit the over on that, just because I
Speaker 3: think their starting lineup is pretty decent, but they have
Speaker 3: no depth, and like they'll be able to catch a team,
Speaker 3: you know, on an off night type of thing, and
Speaker 3: be frisky and pre competitive and maybe pull off a win.
Speaker 3: I think they could get close to like thirty five. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but again if they if they decide in February that
Speaker 3: ah were actually four games away from the play in,
Speaker 3: but six games away from the second best.
Speaker 2: Lottery odds rhetoric or whatever. Yeah, yeah, I could see
Speaker 2: them shift in their direction.
Speaker 1: A little bit.
Speaker 2: You know, the white flag for white flag there you
Speaker 2: go in the pooper for Coopers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yes, yeah this is.
Speaker 2: And I'm just reading this headline from you two from
Speaker 2: Raptors Digest and it says massive Dick leap incoming. So
Speaker 2: well that's okay. They think he's going to take the leap.
Speaker 1: No, it's his name, Tack. Were you over or under
Speaker 1: on them?
Speaker 2: I'm seeing a big over on this one. I'm thinking
Speaker 2: like sixty six, sixty seven wins for the Raptors, all
Speaker 2: the wins.
Speaker 3: Out East no one in the West is winning the
Speaker 3: basketball game.
Speaker 2: I think at this point it would be mathematically impossible
Speaker 2: for these teams to win as many games as they're
Speaker 2: going to guaranteed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, but hey, we can dream, can't we. Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think I think they can easily hit that and
Speaker 1: get the over on that. But the nets, now here's
Speaker 1: a team twenty two wins last season. They're being right now.
Speaker 1: The odds makers are saying eighteen and a half to
Speaker 1: twenty three and a half games. So depending on which
Speaker 1: end of it you're looking at, it's either a downgrade
Speaker 1: or a slight up. Great. I mean this, I was
Speaker 1: looking at this roster and I was like, hmmm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, who's their coach?
Speaker 3: Jordi Fernandez? He coaches Canada basketball? Actually funnyough, okay, pretty
Speaker 3: good coach, right, Canada basketball is pretty tough.
Speaker 2: They're right. I could see this being winning one game
Speaker 2: more than less fifty nine to sixty win. No, I
Speaker 2: could see them putting together something. So it just it
Speaker 2: feels like someone's gonna have to lose all these games?
Speaker 2: Is the right true? The question that like oddsmakers put
Speaker 2: and I think a lot of times they are offloading
Speaker 2: the wins to like a couple teams, or there's like,
Speaker 2: let's like, mathematically, let's just say it's the Nets who
Speaker 2: are gonna lose all these games. But I could see
Speaker 2: them like doing a little bit better than this. Like
Speaker 2: for a team to do as badly as you know,
Speaker 2: let's say the Pistons did last year, it's not just
Speaker 2: a lack of talent, Like things just have to go badly, right,
Speaker 2: And I just can't see that happening with the team
Speaker 2: that has Ben Simmons on.
Speaker 1: But Jack, we got those, we got our annual off
Speaker 1: season Simmons in the lab highlight tape.
Speaker 2: Don't look now, but Ben Simmons, he's different. He's a
Speaker 2: bad contract year.
Speaker 3: Ben Simmons man.
Speaker 1: I you know, I root for him. I hope, I
Speaker 1: hope he can, Yeah he can improve. But yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I just don't know. I think, Yeah, it seems like
Speaker 1: this season many's gonna be it. Maybe they they luck
Speaker 1: out in the draft, and then maybe this roster begins
Speaker 1: to look a little bit more like something that people
Speaker 1: can believe in.
Speaker 2: Maybe they get that guy named Cooper wearing New Balances
Speaker 2: on their roster. Did you see he signed with New.
Speaker 3: Balance honestly sounds like someone who would live in Brooklyn,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, wearing new balances.
Speaker 1: Cooper the whoop those what they call him on the block.
Speaker 1: They're like, Yo, there's Cooper. He's a hooper man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: He's like, what did you do? He's a graphic designer
Speaker 1: over at the bag game, but you know he can
Speaker 1: hoop bro when he puts those new balances on him,
Speaker 1: He's like.
Speaker 2: Why, Yeah, I don't know, it'll be interesting. Muggle always
Speaker 2: good for the Yeah, I think a lot of people
Speaker 2: have come through the seventy six ers here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna say they might be a
Speaker 3: little fun.
Speaker 1: I think I don't like to win.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think like a Cam Thomas forty ball,
Speaker 3: you know, maybe like a forty point game for Cam Thomas.
Speaker 3: How about you know, like Dennis Schroeder, you know Lakers fan,
Speaker 3: huh Dennis Schroeder? Yeah, anybody you know? Ye, Cam Johnson's
Speaker 3: gonna get traded, Dorian Phinney Smith's gonna get traded. Maybe
Speaker 3: Nick's Nick Claxon gets traded. Maybe they get some good
Speaker 3: stuff from that.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think I think with the nets it's good that
Speaker 3: they got their pickback for this year, right, and that
Speaker 3: was huge for them to be able to just pull
Speaker 3: the plug. I will say, though, it's kind of interesting
Speaker 3: because they don't own their pick next year and so
Speaker 3: they have to turn this thing around pretty quickly. So
Speaker 3: how are they going to use this summer the draft
Speaker 3: trading some of these guys to maybe get their roster
Speaker 3: a little bit better than what it is now because
Speaker 3: they probably are losing their pick next year.
Speaker 2: But they do have the pick in the Cooper Flag Draft.
Speaker 2: They do, they do have they they might just be
Speaker 2: all in on losing as many games as they possibly can.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, actually I think they have their pick next season.
Speaker 1: I think it's from twenty it's from twenty seven to
Speaker 1: about twenty nine that they make.
Speaker 2: Okay, so they have a two year window.
Speaker 1: Gotcha two year wins, So they got two so they
Speaker 1: maybe they get a boozer kid or something. Who knows,
Speaker 1: and things could look pretty lovely. So were you over
Speaker 1: under on this one?
Speaker 3: As what was the what was it again?
Speaker 1: Like eighteen between seven and a half and twenty three
Speaker 1: and a half five and a half twins?
Speaker 3: I who was the last team to win single digits?
Speaker 3: Was it the Hornets or Bobcats, And was that nine wins?
Speaker 1: They won nine games? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Can this not be that bad? I feel, can we?
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be that bad.
Speaker 2: You don't think it's gonna be that bad.
Speaker 3: I listen to me, Jackson seventy wins for like three
Speaker 3: teams one team?
Speaker 2: Yeah you know, yeah, yeah, all right, let's go under
Speaker 2: on the nets.
Speaker 3: Okay, so the Pistons won fourteen games. Let's let's pick
Speaker 3: that as they're over do they do they win.
Speaker 1: More or more than fourteen? They w I think more
Speaker 1: than fourteen less than.
Speaker 2: I think they went more than fourteen?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, more than fourteen, less than twenty two.
Speaker 1: I think it's somewhere in there. Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1: Look what do I know? Okay? So Jabid came through
Speaker 1: the chat. He said, Bobcasts won seven in twenty twelve.
Speaker 1: Damn seven and fifty.
Speaker 2: Is that a full season?
Speaker 3: Twenty twelve?
Speaker 1: Not if it was seven and fifty nine.
Speaker 3: I thought twenty eleven was the oh yeah, no, never yeaheah.
Speaker 2: But like the winning percentage is the lowest ever.
Speaker 1: Right right, right? Well, hey, well guess what now? We
Speaker 1: got to transition straight into the fourth quarter of Rapid
Speaker 1: Bire a round of questioning. S it's always good having you, man,
Speaker 1: but obviously still are in the hot seat, bro, so
Speaker 1: we got to ask you these questions. You respond as
Speaker 1: quick as possible. You don't just don't take your time, man,
Speaker 1: come straight from the heart. Okay, yes, yeah, and we
Speaker 1: will be rude to you if you take too much time.
Speaker 1: So S are you ready?
Speaker 2: I am?
Speaker 1: I am okay, thank you, Thank you for the confirmation,
Speaker 1: Brian start the clock. Yes, yes, man, it's so good
Speaker 1: having you, bro. But I don't I don't want to IM.
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you one of the hardest questions. Now
Speaker 1: you've seen some of the leaked City Edition jerseys for
Speaker 1: this next season, Please tell me what is your favorite?
Speaker 1: Shout out the favorites of the City Edition jerseys that
Speaker 1: we're seeing for this season, because there's a lot of
Speaker 1: options and I'm curious what tickles your heart.
Speaker 3: I like the Raptors, the Vince Carter, Donking very Fire,
Speaker 3: the Memphis Red with the Cursive.
Speaker 2: Also explain that one to me, because yeah, I like it.
Speaker 2: I don't get how it You don't.
Speaker 3: Get it, Yeah, I have no idea how it's Memphis,
Speaker 3: but it's at school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is cool.
Speaker 3: I'm assuming like there's some kind.
Speaker 2: Of like soul music vibe to this or something. I
Speaker 2: have no idea, no clue, no idea. Yeah. I liked
Speaker 2: their one that looked like a No Limit album cover.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, with thet Yeah.
Speaker 3: They do well in general man Memphis as well.
Speaker 1: With their jerseys.
Speaker 3: I know, I know they're bringing back like the Grizzlies
Speaker 3: white and like teal ones too, which would be cool.
Speaker 3: I kind of like the Hawk's jerseys. I don't know
Speaker 3: if you guys have seen this one.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's like the Carolina blue and white.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the powder blue ones, Yeah, those are nice. Those
Speaker 3: are nice.
Speaker 2: A lot of teams going with the powder blue that
Speaker 2: don't have a powder blue tradition necessarily. Cleveland is powder
Speaker 2: blue with like white the land written on it. I
Speaker 2: like the font, but I'm not seeing how like. I
Speaker 2: guess that's the thing. The colorway needs to like make
Speaker 2: some sense to me, like that it needs to like
Speaker 2: in some way harken back to a color that has
Speaker 2: ever been associated with your roster. It's true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, I feel like we like we should stop
Speaker 3: doing new jerseys every year. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: do it like every five years or something, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, like stick with it, see how it is,
Speaker 3: and then in five years you can be like, oh,
Speaker 3: New City Edition Jersey coming up next, sure, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or just give us, just give us the throwbacks
Speaker 1: we deserve that we're always yearning for. Uh yeah, I
Speaker 1: think there there's there's definitely some interesting stuff here. I'm
Speaker 1: not a fan of the Lake Show one, but I do.
Speaker 1: I really like the Raptors one. The Vince Carter not
Speaker 1: is really dope.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that seems to be the one that everybody, like,
Speaker 2: everybody's favorite for the people who haven't seen it, it
Speaker 2: is the Raptor that we were talking about up top,
Speaker 2: the Red Dino doing the between the legs, Vince Carter
Speaker 2: dunk right right right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We'll know more like once the official launches, because they
Speaker 1: always like give you the backstory to like kind of
Speaker 1: understand like what the inspiration was for each one. Okay,
Speaker 1: that was a good That was a good answer, I
Speaker 1: guess Jack.
Speaker 2: Next, all right, you get to pick the next three
Speaker 2: locations for the All Star Game. They don't have to
Speaker 2: be places that have NBA teams currently.
Speaker 1: What do you pick even in this country.
Speaker 3: NFL players loved Rio de Janeiro. Okay, they didn't, by
Speaker 3: the way, they did not, But let's let's throw them
Speaker 3: in Brazil. Let's do Mexico City, and let's do Montreal.
Speaker 3: I feel like Montreal would do a good job, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: Just for laughs, you know, just bring a little of
Speaker 2: the just for laughs energy.
Speaker 3: To little stand up comedy. I remember Cedric the entertainer
Speaker 3: used to have these all star comedy things. I don't
Speaker 3: he doesn't do it anymore, but they were fun.
Speaker 2: Those were cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Europe, oh me, ah, well, fantastic. If
Speaker 1: the NBA scheduled the finals location similar to how the
Speaker 1: NFL or even college basketball does, obviously completely unrelated to
Speaker 1: the teams, where are you putting the next three finals venues?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Okay, but they should be they should be within like
Speaker 1: North America, just for the purpose of, you know, making
Speaker 1: obviously ease of travel. But I guess you can pick
Speaker 1: yet whatever however you want.
Speaker 3: Okay, Alaska does that count? That counts?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, let's do Alaska counts. Baby, It's I'm just
Speaker 2: getting word from our judges. That doesn't count. Okay, all right, okay, it.
Speaker 1: Has to be a meticulous united explain why you know
Speaker 1: the Hawaii is on the table. Okay, for some reason,
Speaker 1: Hawaii is on the table. Alaska is not.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll lean into Hawaii. Can we do Hawaii? That
Speaker 2: would be cool? You know, yeah, you should be Actually no,
Speaker 2: I'm just getting word that you can't do Hawaii for
Speaker 2: some reason.
Speaker 3: All right, Okay, no Hawaii. How about, like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: let's go Vegas.
Speaker 2: Yes, And we were just waiting for you to say
Speaker 2: Vegas because we do want it to happen. Just say
Speaker 2: that three times Vegas, Vegas? And what is the in
Speaker 2: season tournament? Would be like this here because like last year,
Speaker 2: there was excitement, but then the Lakers won and nobody
Speaker 2: kind of became a nothing, Like how are they going
Speaker 2: to keep people interested?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question. I think the only way
Speaker 3: to do that is if the games are really good.
Speaker 3: The question with that is how are the games going
Speaker 3: to be? Like you got to get the guys to
Speaker 3: buy in? I thought they bought in last year. Are
Speaker 3: they going to do it for a second year? Not sure,
Speaker 3: especially because nobody gave the Lakers credit for that, right,
Speaker 3: Like nobody was like, oh yeah, shout out to the Lakers.
Speaker 1: No, they didn't mean we were like flippantly being like
Speaker 1: in season tournament champions, the LA Lakers. Yeah, but not
Speaker 1: no one, no one, No one gets credit.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: It's so hard out here, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: it's so tough. Dude, I don't even know I get
Speaker 1: through it, you know, but I'm brave, I guess is what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, courage is the way you
Speaker 2: get through it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, we really got to keep this movie. Man.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I don't know why I talk about sin
Speaker 1: season tournaments. Suddenly we had nothing nothing to do with
Speaker 1: the question, Jack, are you doing last one? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Last one? We're playing pick up with presidents and prime
Speaker 2: ministers for some reason, we just got the first pick.
Speaker 2: We took Obama. Yeah, and it can be anyone, anyone
Speaker 2: from history, and they are at their physical peak, the
Speaker 2: peak of their abilities.
Speaker 3: I'll take Uh, Jamie Fox as Tony Blair.
Speaker 2: Jamie Fox as Tony Blair.
Speaker 3: That's a that's a Chappelle skit for you guys. Uh,
Speaker 3: let me go. Man, Trump is like six ' four,
Speaker 3: you know he's not though, Man, do you think you
Speaker 3: think do you think that he's wearing he's wearing little
Speaker 3: escalades on his shoes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Trump, I mean that says a lot about you.
Speaker 3: But yeah, but look, I'm trying to build a team here.
Speaker 3: You know who's a t is abe Lincoln Tall?
Speaker 1: Was he tall six four? Let me say he was
Speaker 1: like the best wrestler of his time.
Speaker 2: He was the number one wrestler of his time. I
Speaker 2: feel like he probably we're gonna give you some training,
Speaker 2: training time with with him.
Speaker 3: So yeah, give me, give me the links, give me
Speaker 3: give me uh Tony Blair, Uh the links.
Speaker 2: I like it, Jamie Fox.
Speaker 3: Version, Uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Damn?
Speaker 3: Who else do I have? Do I have to pick
Speaker 3: another guy?
Speaker 1: Like the most athletic, like Canadian prime minister? Like is
Speaker 1: there even anything like.
Speaker 3: That in the I mean the Canadian culture prime minister boxed,
Speaker 3: like Justin Trudeau boxes. I think he got some cardio
Speaker 3: at least.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do Justin some cardio.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but hey he can throw hands. Yeah, there it is.
Speaker 2: You have successfully passed through the A gauntlet.
Speaker 3: Every right, answer every single one, especially link Yeah, shout.
Speaker 1: Out links man A blinks, broy just blinks. They call
Speaker 1: it links links send him blink of And now he's gone,
Speaker 1: baby spar HAINI thank you so much for joining us, Jack.
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Speaker 3: Find me on Twitter? Man at just that or X
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Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 3: I post all my stuff on there, So yeah, I
Speaker 3: appreciate you guys.
Speaker 2: Man always fun as always fun, always great, haven't you.
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Speaker 2: hook hook.
Speaker 1: You know how many banners? That's one hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: two banners we've hung up so far. That's wild. You know,
Speaker 1: that's just how we do sit. We'll see you guys
Speaker 1: next time on Miles of Jack got mad boots and
Speaker 1: we are.
Speaker 2: Like the Celtics and that we counted even like back
Speaker 2: when there were only three podcasts yeah, We're still like, yeah, man,
Speaker 2: they'll still count and are just as impressive as the
Speaker 2: ones when there were thirty.
Speaker 1: Obviously obviously, all right, we'll calculator.
Speaker 2: Bye bye,