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Speaker 1: Well, well, well, NBA media days are officially pawned us

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Speaker 1: and we're back breaking down the Atlantic.

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Speaker 2: Hey.

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Speaker 1: Look, the Pistons had to catch a straight today on

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Speaker 1: this media day it turned out, and we're doing an

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Speaker 1: Atlantic Division breakdown with Sparra Haney on today's episode.

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Speaker 2: I'm Miles Gray and I'm Jack O'Brien and this is.

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Speaker 3: Jack.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, got it.

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Speaker 2: Look at the h t K.

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Speaker 1: Driving spinning Tyler number eighteen that's been secure the Celtic

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Speaker 1: or NBA champions over the.

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Speaker 2: Couple team to be.

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Speaker 1: Honest with the term look a shot time.

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Speaker 2: What's you go?

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Speaker 1: Yes, very Haney, welcome back to the show. You're currently

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Speaker 1: covering the Raptors for Forbes, amongst other things. It's good

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Speaker 1: to have you back as we talk about the Atlantic Division,

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Speaker 1: because truth be told, I'm a bit behind on knowing

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Speaker 1: what is happening with the Toronto Raptors and I need

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Speaker 1: someone from your expertise to help break it down and

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Speaker 1: wondering if you know, if the fans have a reason

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Speaker 1: to be nervous or hopeful or maybe both. I think

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Speaker 1: why not all things, but anyway, it's good to have

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Speaker 1: you back.

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Speaker 2: Man, appreciate you guys having me, man, just for context,

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Speaker 2: are you a lifelong Raptors fan? Is that? What's your

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Speaker 2: relationship with the Raptors. It's kind of weird.

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Speaker 3: I so I started off being a Lakers fan very

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Speaker 3: very early in my career because like I just started yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: because I was smart and I knew what I was doing. No,

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Speaker 3: when I was like seven or eight years old, Kobe

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Speaker 2: At eighty one.

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Speaker 3: I was like ten when he did that, and it

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Speaker 3: was crazy. Yes, yeah, yeah, but I was always kind

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Speaker 3: of like affiliated love the Lakers. And then yeah, eventually,

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Speaker 1: Man. Pretty wild story, I guess, yeah, living the dream. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: So you didn't get into the Raptors via Jurassic Park

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Speaker 2: like I did. No, wait, like the movie or that's

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Speaker 2: how I got got Basketball's wait what that movie?

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Speaker 1: And I was like, wait, they played basketball and they're

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Speaker 3: You know, it's crazy. So I didn't. I didn't make

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Speaker 3: that connection for a while. I always thought they got

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Speaker 3: the Purple Dinosaur from Barney.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where I.

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Speaker 3: Got the connection. From because I was a little kid.

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Speaker 3: I was much much younger. Yeah, so I always thought

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Speaker 3: that was the connection, but it was not.

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Speaker 2: They were like, you know, who looks like he could ball? Barney?

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Speaker 1: What I mean, what didn't did it have to do

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I always assumed that it was because it was

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Speaker 1: They totally vote on the name, right. Wasn't there like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they almost became the raccoons. They they I thought

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Speaker 2: Lie, raccoons would have been super dope.

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Speaker 1: Spiders even better though, I mean, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: the nicknames would have gotten real problematic.

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Speaker 1: Toronto Raccoons.

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Speaker 3: I think like otters or something like that. That was

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Speaker 3: I'm glad that didn't happen to yeah wait yeah yeah beavers.

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Speaker 3: It probably thought like towers. I know, Toronto Towers was

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Speaker 2: But you just got to go after size if that's

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Speaker 2: which is kind of how the raptors have always been, right,

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Speaker 2: I think the Raptors have built their team become based

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Speaker 3: So like Lakers would be just a bunch of people

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, just like not great The Lake Show. I

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Speaker 2: A free flowing form of basketball.

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Speaker 3: I only saw the thing he said about the Olympics

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Speaker 1: He looked at the Detroit Pistons. Unfortunately, we're catching strays.

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Speaker 2: Get ready to be full body disrespected, right.

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Speaker 1: And then I mean big thing too. Affecting the world

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Speaker 1: of basketball journalism, WOJ resigned from ESPN to to head

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Speaker 2: bomb was coming, Like that was it? Uh oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: The point that like it's informed sports journalism like in

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Speaker 2: Yeah Adam speaking of other sports, I feel like Adam

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Speaker 2: He's all him like talking about WOJ and like he

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Speaker 2: that thing probably makes you age like the bad guy

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Speaker 1: It's got to be like just the you know, like

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of curious to see what happens with Shams then,

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Speaker 3: He's probably in his thirties now maybe right, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Man, to my previous point, WOJ twenty nine years old.

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Speaker 2: He just looks that way because of how hard this.

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Speaker 1: Exactly that's the job I mean started when he was fourteen,

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Speaker 3: It'll happen. It'll happen for sure, no question.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that also around the league, Joel

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Speaker 2: this guy's name's mbi'd. He talk about NBA basketball. Mbi'd

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Speaker 2: has agreed to a three year, one hundred and ninety

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Speaker 2: for sixty nine million dollars at age thirty five.

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Speaker 1: I'll take that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I still have a brain that can't

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Speaker 2: we'll get into the sixers in our Atlantic Division preview.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that would basically be the next presidential election cycle

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Speaker 3: Damn.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, that's going to be like the fall

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Speaker 2: So on Celtics media day, did they mentioned some Olympics stuff.

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Speaker 2: I actually didn't catch that what happened there because I

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Speaker 3: Three playoffs too. I think he saw like twenty nine

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Speaker 3: I honestly think the biggest hole, I mean, question or

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Speaker 1: Hey, some of us are out here, you know, we're

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, you know, you're you're not trying to

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Speaker 1: I mean I am, and the Lakers won't give me

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Speaker 3: But look, yeah, no, look, I think Porzingis question is

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Speaker 3: You know, obviously they have this guy in the Maya's

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Speaker 2: I love it all this, Yeah, where he jumps in

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back, and we're back.

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Speaker 1: We're back.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, I think we've been pretty open, like

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Speaker 2: but we are a don't like the Celtics podcast. I

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Speaker 3: We're all in agreeance there. Yeah, raptists, people don't really

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Speaker 2: People either unite all the Kingdom, I mean America. The

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: That does seem like the most likely occurrence. I know

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Speaker 2: But they won sixty four games last year. This year,

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Speaker 2: I disagree with that. I think it's either going to

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Speaker 1: I don't know how that's mathematically possible, Like it's just

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Speaker 3: I'm taking the under on the fifty nine and a

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Speaker 1: Come on, man, they already caught us straight.

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Speaker 2: You're right, You're right.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: And the Hawks of course, and the Hawks and the Bulls.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I honestly think that he's got better, but

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Speaker 3: if not the best, the second best in Celtics history

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Speaker 3: there's just it's tough to win sixty plus games and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, they were a historically great team last

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because if they if they're near that kind of form,

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Speaker 3: Think it's also just it you get tired, man, like this,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is like if they did a Ireland specific

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Speaker 1: The shire man. Stop asking questions. But yeah, back to

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Speaker 1: I think quote was, we're gonna play it through Peyton,

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Speaker 2: I will say this is the youngest championship team we've

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Speaker 1: You know in Jurassic Park where they see the cup

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Speaker 1: You're going for the over because it's over, and for

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Speaker 2: until you just said that, because this is our Atlantic Division.

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Speaker 3: But I think the Knicks depth is crazy, like they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, like where do they you know, cash that

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Speaker 3: Good are there any good Villanova biggs as I'm.

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Speaker 1: there are no current Villanova bigs, so hey, you might

436
00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 1: have to settle for someone who didn't go to Nova.

437
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 2: Yehi Sadik Bay, Michale Bridges. Yeah, man, that's tough for them.

438
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 2: Kyle Lowry could come back. Uh, Cam Whitmore, he's six seven,

439
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 2: that's something. Yeah, we were trying to name like another

440
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 2: team that had four I remember, you know, my dad

441
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 2: was an assistant on this team, but the Celtics after

442
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 2: when so, I mean this is kind of comparable, right,

443
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 2: So Patino leaves the University of Kentucky after winning a

444
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 2: title there. Uh, Antoine Walker is already with the Celtics.

445
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 2: He goes to the Celtics. He drafts Ron Mercer that year,

446
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,400
Speaker 2: and then a year later Walter McCarty comes along. All

447
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 2: three people who played on the championship team with the

448
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 2: coach of the championship team. That kind of yeah, that's

449
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 2: about as close as we got. That one didn't work

450
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 2: out quite as well as as this seems to be working.

451
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's that was weird that like all those

452
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 2: all those guys were we're together. I don't think it happens.

453
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,239
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, yeah it doesn't. Yeah, it's very

454
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,479
Speaker 2: it's very weird, and it does seem to, I don't know,

455
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 2: be working. They have some sort of connect that is

456
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,360
Speaker 2: frustrating where you're going with them in a play.

457
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: It's seriously Yeah, it seems like I don't know who's

458
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: ever had four, Like it's always just it feels like

459
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 1: it always tops out at three. Yeah, so wow, good

460
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 1: for all the.

461
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, good for all them. I'm a big over on them,

462
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 2: A big over. I think they're going to win seventy

463
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 2: seventy one win games to seventy teams. That would be not.

464
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: Night to night. Yeah, I definitely. I mean there, I've

465
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just like they've always been like my little

466
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 1: my favorite like East Coast team. So like, yeah, I'm

467
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: because I don't have nothing but anxiety about the Lakers.

468
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm definitely like yeah, yeah, I like then they're looking good.

469
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 1: I like that. I like to see it. I like

470
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 1: to see it. I like to see it.

471
00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 2: Tims. They should have to play in TIMS. That's always

472
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 2: been my belief.

473
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 1: I know we always talked about those rules that you

474
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: should be able to introduce, like just the kind of

475
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: level out of game, like if you go down twenty,

476
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: like you can hit a panic button and then your

477
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: opposition now has to playing tims or they play with

478
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: a beach ball during their possessions. You can't do that thing.

479
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: Good luck getting stuffed every time. But I guess we

480
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: should move on, Jack. Are you willing and able to

481
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 1: talk about your Philadelphia seventy six ers.

482
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 2: I just never have been Miles, never had again. Yeah,

483
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 2: let's go for it. Yeah, so they pushed Miles. I'm

484
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 2: gonna use a poker metaphor here and I hope you

485
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 2: don't mind, and it's gonna be pretty complicated and hard

486
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 2: to follow. But the seventy six ers pushed all their

487
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 2: chips into the middle here because they're they're going all

488
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 2: in nice. Yeah, that's right. They brought Andre Drummond back

489
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 2: back up to and they got Paul George, they got

490
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 2: Caleb Martin. They did not lose Tyrese Maxey and Joe

491
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: l Embiid will be back and fully healthy, and its

492
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,959
Speaker 2: promised to be healthy the whole season and into the playoffs.

493
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 2: So I think we're good here, moving on.

494
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: Okay, it's all seriousness. I mean this is having Tyresse, Maxi,

495
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: Paul George and embiid. I think that looks pretty cool

496
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: to me.

497
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: Hey man, I think that's pretty cool.

498
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: Pretty cool. Now are you? Are you doing the thing

499
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: Jack where you're protecting your heart? You secretly do feel optimistic,

500
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: but you can't let yourself get there for fear of

501
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 1: total emotional collapse. Come the all Star break ish period

502
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: or what? How do you feel good? Please tell me

503
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: you feel great. I don't know what you're talking about.

504
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: I am just the only realistic person when it comes

505
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: to the seventy six ers. They have not been able

506
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: to get out of the second round of the playoffs

507
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:12,239
Speaker 1: because of some manner of curse that was put on them.

508
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: Who do you think put.

509
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 3: The curse on Who's the Who's the Philadelphia curse?

510
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,959
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, that's a great that's a great question.

511
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 2: But we all saw, I know you saw as they

512
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 2: Leonard shot that killed me for like thirty seconds.

513
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 3: Maybe it was Vince Carter who put the curse on them?

514
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 3: You know, went to graduation two thousand and one.

515
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 2: This shot.

516
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, guys, get a you guys get a finals run

517
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 3: out of it. Yeah, stepping over Tyler. Maybe Tyler cursed them.

518
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be Tyler. These are all great theories.

519
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

520
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 2: Anyways, MB probably has the most health questions of any

521
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: great player in the league in recent history. He just,

522
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 2: you know, for a while there it was like bad

523
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: luck where he would just like break his face, like

524
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 2: multiple multiple times. Heading into the playoffs. He broke his

525
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 2: face his rookie year, like that first year when he

526
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 2: was just playing out of his mind, broke his face

527
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 2: on I think MARKL. Fults, So it wasn't his rookieyears

528
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 2: like his second or third, but broke his face on

529
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 2: Markel Fultz and then broke his face on Pascal in

530
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 2: the first round and got a concussion. But now he's

531
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 2: also one of the heaviest players in the history of

532
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: the league, and that is going to cause problems on

533
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 2: a human body, and we're starting to see the lower

534
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 2: body injuries pile up, and I don't know, I've always

535
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 2: found it to be a uniquely harrowing experience to watch

536
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: him land and now he's just like that much heavier.

537
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: So it's yeah, you do you feel like they should.

538
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 3: Rest him like no back to backs, no third game

539
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 3: in four nites type of thing, none of that, Like

540
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: just take off as many games as you play.

541
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: Forty games this season, I don't know, you know, forty

542
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 2: tops for me, I think he should think he should

543
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: only Yeah, I think if they wanted to shut him

544
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 2: down for you know, a big chunk of like if

545
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 2: they if they're on a nice run and they're doing

546
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: that like dipping in and out with embiid and like

547
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: they feel like, Okay, we're winning it like a sixty

548
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 2: percent clip. When Embid's out of the lineup, then let's

549
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 2: let's do it. Let's shut him down for a couple months,

550
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 2: have him just working on his body, because right now,

551
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 2: it's the problem with that has been that when he's

552
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: not playing, he's like getting in worse shape. And somehow

553
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 2: we need to verse that trend. And I don't know

554
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: if there's a possible way to do it because weight

555
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: rooms and exercise have not been invented, so I no

556
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 2: way to know really how to get around this problem

557
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: of not being in shape.

558
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 3: What is there over under when total thingy?

559
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: So last year they won forty seven while he missed

560
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of games, right and this year they're

561
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 2: projected to win thirty forty, they're projected to win fifty. Luck, man,

562
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 2: this is hard. I am switching the numbers around.

563
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: That can't be. That's thirty year five and a half.

564
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: This year they're projected to win fifty three and a half,

565
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: So a gain of six and a half wins, which

566
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: some would argue is low based on the fact that

567
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: they added Paul George, Caleb Martin lost to some people

568
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: who have been not that productive for them, like Tobias

569
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 2: Harris Well, I.

570
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: Was going to say, can Paul George fill that Tobias

571
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: Harris By, Yeah.

572
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: No way to know, really, yeah, yeah, right, But I

573
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 2: do think that they're baking in some of the health questions.

574
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: I think the Sixers are probably a little closer to

575
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 2: the Clippers than Sixers fans would want to admit, you know,

576
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: heading into the season at this point where like the

577
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: Clippers are like, what, we just know that they're not

578
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: going to be healthy, So why are we even even

579
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: having this conversation? Like they should be projected, like the

580
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 2: injuries should be built into their projections, and it seems

581
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: like people are starting to do that with the seventy

582
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: six ers. So for me, I am a huge over

583
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 2: on this. I think seventy one seventy two wins for

584
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: the seventy six ers, why seventy six? Yeah, I mean

585
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: that would actually be cool and maybe that's something that

586
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: they should do.

587
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: Aime Hi Jack, you know you shame for seventy six

588
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: you might hit fifty three and a half.

589
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: I think fifty three is like right around where they

590
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: could be. Yeah, even taking some injuries into account, it's

591
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 2: tough with Like, if Paul George is injured throughout, then

592
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: we have problems, and that has been a problem for

593
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: him in the past.

594
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: So how are you you optimistic? Are you when you

595
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: look at this Philly team or are you kind of

596
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: like I think.

597
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,719
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, was really optimistic last year. I thought last year

598
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 3: was the year. I'm like, you know what, they let

599
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 3: go of Harden Max, He's going to take a leap

600
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 3: this is and he did.

601
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: He did take a leap.

602
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 3: But you know, I thought that was going to be

603
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 3: the year where they just kind of get lucky, embiid

604
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 3: gets healthy and it happens. I still, unfortunately believe that

605
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 3: that will sometime in the next couple of years happen,

606
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 3: Like there will be a Dirk Noovitsky esque run for

607
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: Embiid around the corner, because I really believe in Joel

608
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: Embiid is like an incredible basketball player. But to Jack's point,

609
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: like the man just cannot stay healthy and that is

610
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 3: baked into everything that has to do with the Sixers.

611
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 3: So I don't know, I don't know how I feel

612
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 3: about them. I feel like I've believed so many years

613
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 3: that I want to not believe this year and that

614
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 3: like that's weird.

615
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: That must be weird when specifically you have that feeling

616
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 2: about this team.

617
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: Jackson, you're definitely not a fan, dude. I like that.

618
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 2: I like that interesting.

619
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 3: Let me take myself away from it, like maybe I'm

620
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 3: the Jinx, you know, maybe I'm the curse here.

621
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, keep and I do blame you, I know, I know.

622
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 2: I just mean a lot of the worst things that

623
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 2: have happened to this team have happened as the result

624
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: of the Raptors. We of course have the Quhi shot,

625
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: but we also have you know, his face being broken

626
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: after hitting an amazing game winning shot, like everybody always

627
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: talks about him like he's a complete like completely disappears

628
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: in shrinks from the moment in the playoffs, he hit

629
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: an amazing game winning shot to go up three to

630
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 2: zero against the Rats where he's like falling out of bounds.

631
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: Was just like here, I'm seven foot two, I'm gonna

632
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 2: come get it and just hit a fade away three

633
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 2: to like put you out of your misery. Did get

634
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 2: his face broken the next game by Pascal Siakam.

635
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: So he did.

636
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: It was great.

637
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: Well, who knows, maybe like the the reckoning or the

638
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: rebalancing of the scales comes in the form of a

639
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: former Raptor and Kyle Lowry and Philadelphia born.

640
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 3: There we go maybe and maybe maybe that maybe things

641
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 3: are right from North Philly to your city, as they.

642
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: Say in Philadelphia. Yeah, all right, so I need to

643
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: like go take a shower, so, uh we should, we

644
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 2: should take a break. We'll come back. We'll talk about

645
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 2: your Toronto Raptors. And we're back.

646
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 1: We're back, and we're back.

647
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh and we're back.

648
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: Hey yo yo, yeah we.

649
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: Are, and we're talking of course about the Toronto Raptors.

650
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: Yeah twenty five wins. Yeah, correctly, yeah you are. Actually

651
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: it's Toronto. That's how you sound like a herb Toronto. Yes,

652
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: the second T is silent. Toronto. Yeah, uh so the

653
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: Toronto Rappers. Wait, is the first tea in Raptors silent

654
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 1: or not?

655
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 3: You could if you want to.

656
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, speaking.

657
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: Of Toronto Rappers. Twenty five wins?

658
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: How many keys and Raptors?

659
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: How many rs in Raptors? One? Huh?

660
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: Anyway is one? What are you telling?

661
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: A joke for those that listen to the other show.

662
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, twenty five wins last year. We're looking at

663
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: a four to five and a half game bump for

664
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: twenty nine and a half to thirty and a half

665
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: wins according to the bookies at this moment. U s

666
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: I mean, like I'm sometimes when I hear how Toronto

667
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: fans are like, we had a good thing going and

668
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: we got rid of pieces that we didn't replace. What

669
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: is happening? Like, oh it sounds like the Lakers? Wait,

670
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 1: hold on, man, I think I like them.

671
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 2: How are you is there?

672
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: Like? Is this what's happened?

673
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: What is the state of what is going on in Toronto?

674
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: I mean, look, it hasn't been a great year for

675
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 3: for Toronto vibes, you know, not a great year as.

676
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, no idea, what you're talking about the

677
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 2: fall of.

678
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 3: The fall of a fellow road men, you know, yeah,

679
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 3: just speaking of Toronto rappers.

680
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, round, but no talk about running through the

681
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: streets with your woes. There's so many, got a lot

682
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 2: of them these days.

683
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: That was.

684
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 2: Man, okay.

685
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 3: Look, so for the uninitiated, they have an All Star

686
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 3: in Scottie Barnes.

687
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 2: Uh.

688
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 3: They just traded last year for Emanual Quick leonar J Barrett.

689
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 3: Both guys, despite only playing like thirty games at the

690
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 3: second half of the season, played pretty well. Like in

691
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 3: their roles, they played pretty pretty well. Unfortunately, they were

692
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 3: not healthy and they didn't get to play. Actually, I

693
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 3: think they probably wanted that. They wanted to tank to

694
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 3: try to keep their pick. But this year it's rebuild.

695
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 3: They have this new motto that says the future is now,

696
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 3: and they got the thirtieth anniversary. They're doing the new jerseys.

697
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 3: They're bringing back purple for a little bit. Vince Carter's

698
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 3: jersey is getting retired. So there's gonna be a lot

699
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 3: of fluff and pageantry likely you know what I mean,

700
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 3: to cover some poor basketball. But at the same time,

701
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 3: I do think they kind of have like an interesting

702
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 3: little group going. What the ceiling of that group is

703
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 3: really depends on if Scotty ends up becoming like an

704
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 3: All NBA type player, if IQ or RJ take those

705
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 3: leaps in their careers, we'll see. We have no idea,

706
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 3: but it's equal parts exciting, equal parts relieving, because the

707
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 3: last four or five years has been this sort of

708
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 3: tread mill of mediocrity, if you will. With Pascal and

709
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 3: Fred VanVleet and those guys, it just felt like that

710
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 3: team was going nowhere. Uh So it's a reset, is

711
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 3: a bit of a refresh to what we got for

712
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 3: the next little bit. Well, I have no idea if

713
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 3: that ends up being a championship for at this point,

714
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 3: it doesn't seem like they have the tools to do that.

715
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 3: They probably gotta suck a couple others a few more

716
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 3: seasons to get you know, maybe a Cooper flag, maybe

717
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 3: whoever else that's coming along the way. But yeah, we'll see.

718
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, man, because like those both of those guys

719
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 2: went to other teams and made them so much better,

720
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: Like and Pascal Siak like that, even Fred like in Houston, yea, yeah,

721
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 2: got a lot better. Like man, put those three together

722
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: on a team in there. Yeah, you guys should think

723
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 2: about undoing those traits I know, but yeah, I don't know,

724
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: like I got. I could definitely see like those trades

725
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:07,959
Speaker 2: yielding something great. Scottie Barnes feels like he's a great

726
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: third or maybe second best player on a championship team. Yeah,

727
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: like he's just like a great like defender, like but

728
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 2: probably not the guy.

729
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: So I like it.

730
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 2: I like where you guys are at. Plus we're looking

731
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: at a second year dick. Oh yeah, oh yeah, he's

732
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 2: girthy by the way, girth. Yeah, added some girth this year.

733
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: I noticed he did a little better last year than

734
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: I thought he did. He played in sixty games, twenty

735
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 2: one minutes a game, eight and a half points, shooting

736
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 2: thirty six and a half from three, So that's not nothing.

737
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, second half of the season it was like, I

738
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 3: don't know, twelve thirteen points and then forty percent from three.

739
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 3: So hopefully that translates over. They have so many young

740
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 3: guys too, like just four rookies that they're trying to incorporate.

741
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 3: A lot of those guys are going to see some

742
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 3: G League minutes. But it's it's like starting new and

743
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 3: seeing what sticks really for this Raptors team. And I

744
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 3: think you said the over under was like twenty nine

745
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 3: and a half, right, Yeah, I would not be surprised

746
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 3: if they hit the over on that, just because I

747
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 3: think their starting lineup is pretty decent, but they have

748
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 3: no depth, and like they'll be able to catch a team,

749
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 3: you know, on an off night type of thing, and

750
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 3: be frisky and pre competitive and maybe pull off a win.

751
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 3: I think they could get close to like thirty five. Yeah,

752
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 3: but again if they if they decide in February that

753
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 3: ah were actually four games away from the play in,

754
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 3: but six games away from the second best.

755
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 2: Lottery odds rhetoric or whatever. Yeah, yeah, I could see

756
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 2: them shift in their direction.

757
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: A little bit.

758
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 2: You know, the white flag for white flag there you

759
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: go in the pooper for Coopers.

760
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yes, yeah this is.

761
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 2: And I'm just reading this headline from you two from

762
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: Raptors Digest and it says massive Dick leap incoming. So

763
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: well that's okay. They think he's going to take the leap.

764
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: No, it's his name, Tack. Were you over or under

765
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: on them?

766
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 2: I'm seeing a big over on this one. I'm thinking

767
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: like sixty six, sixty seven wins for the Raptors, all

768
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 2: the wins.

769
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 3: Out East no one in the West is winning the

770
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 3: basketball game.

771
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 2: I think at this point it would be mathematically impossible

772
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 2: for these teams to win as many games as they're

773
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: going to guaranteed.

774
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, but hey, we can dream, can't we. Yeah?

775
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: I think I think they can easily hit that and

776
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: get the over on that. But the nets, now here's

777
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: a team twenty two wins last season. They're being right now.

778
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: The odds makers are saying eighteen and a half to

779
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: twenty three and a half games. So depending on which

780
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: end of it you're looking at, it's either a downgrade

781
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: or a slight up. Great. I mean this, I was

782
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: looking at this roster and I was like, hmmm.

783
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, who's their coach?

784
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 3: Jordi Fernandez? He coaches Canada basketball? Actually funnyough, okay, pretty

785
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 3: good coach, right, Canada basketball is pretty tough.

786
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: They're right. I could see this being winning one game

787
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 2: more than less fifty nine to sixty win. No, I

788
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: could see them putting together something. So it just it

789
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 2: feels like someone's gonna have to lose all these games?

790
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 2: Is the right true? The question that like oddsmakers put

791
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 2: and I think a lot of times they are offloading

792
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 2: the wins to like a couple teams, or there's like,

793
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: let's like, mathematically, let's just say it's the Nets who

794
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: are gonna lose all these games. But I could see

795
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: them like doing a little bit better than this. Like

796
00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 2: for a team to do as badly as you know,

797
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 2: let's say the Pistons did last year, it's not just

798
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 2: a lack of talent, Like things just have to go badly, right,

799
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: And I just can't see that happening with the team

800
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 2: that has Ben Simmons on.

801
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: But Jack, we got those, we got our annual off

802
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: season Simmons in the lab highlight tape.

803
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 2: Don't look now, but Ben Simmons, he's different. He's a

804
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 2: bad contract year.

805
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 3: Ben Simmons man.

806
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: I you know, I root for him. I hope, I

807
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: hope he can, Yeah he can improve. But yeah, I don't.

808
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: I just don't know. I think, Yeah, it seems like

809
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: this season many's gonna be it. Maybe they they luck

810
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: out in the draft, and then maybe this roster begins

811
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: to look a little bit more like something that people

812
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: can believe in.

813
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 2: Maybe they get that guy named Cooper wearing New Balances

814
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,959
Speaker 2: on their roster. Did you see he signed with New.

815
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 3: Balance honestly sounds like someone who would live in Brooklyn,

816
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 3: you know.

817
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, wearing new balances.

818
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: Cooper the whoop those what they call him on the block.

819
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: They're like, Yo, there's Cooper. He's a hooper man. Yeah,

820
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: He's like, what did you do? He's a graphic designer

821
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: over at the bag game, but you know he can

822
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: hoop bro when he puts those new balances on him,

823
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: He's like.

824
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 2: Why, Yeah, I don't know, it'll be interesting. Muggle always

825
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 2: good for the Yeah, I think a lot of people

826
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 2: have come through the seventy six ers here.

827
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna say they might be a

828
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 3: little fun.

829
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: I think I don't like to win.

830
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think like a Cam Thomas forty ball,

831
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 3: you know, maybe like a forty point game for Cam Thomas.

832
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 3: How about you know, like Dennis Schroeder, you know Lakers fan,

833
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 3: huh Dennis Schroeder? Yeah, anybody you know? Ye, Cam Johnson's

834
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 3: gonna get traded, Dorian Phinney Smith's gonna get traded. Maybe

835
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 3: Nick's Nick Claxon gets traded. Maybe they get some good

836
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 3: stuff from that.

837
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: I don't know.

838
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 3: I think I think with the nets it's good that

839
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 3: they got their pickback for this year, right, and that

840
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 3: was huge for them to be able to just pull

841
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: the plug. I will say, though, it's kind of interesting

842
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 3: because they don't own their pick next year and so

843
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 3: they have to turn this thing around pretty quickly. So

844
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 3: how are they going to use this summer the draft

845
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 3: trading some of these guys to maybe get their roster

846
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 3: a little bit better than what it is now because

847
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 3: they probably are losing their pick next year.

848
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 2: But they do have the pick in the Cooper Flag Draft.

849
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 2: They do, they do have they they might just be

850
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 2: all in on losing as many games as they possibly can.

851
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, actually I think they have their pick next season.

852
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: I think it's from twenty it's from twenty seven to

853
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: about twenty nine that they make.

854
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 2: Okay, so they have a two year window.

855
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: Gotcha two year wins, So they got two so they

856
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: maybe they get a boozer kid or something. Who knows,

857
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: and things could look pretty lovely. So were you over

858
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: under on this one?

859
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 3: As what was the what was it again?

860
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: Like eighteen between seven and a half and twenty three

861
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: and a half five and a half twins?

862
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 3: I who was the last team to win single digits?

863
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 3: Was it the Hornets or Bobcats, And was that nine wins?

864
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 1: They won nine games? Yeah?

865
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 3: Can this not be that bad? I feel, can we?

866
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be that bad.

867
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,439
Speaker 2: You don't think it's gonna be that bad.

868
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 3: I listen to me, Jackson seventy wins for like three

869
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 3: teams one team?

870
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 2: Yeah you know, yeah, yeah, all right, let's go under

871
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 2: on the nets.

872
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 3: Okay, so the Pistons won fourteen games. Let's let's pick

873
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 3: that as they're over do they do they win.

874
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: More or more than fourteen? They w I think more

875
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: than fourteen less than.

876
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 2: I think they went more than fourteen?

877
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, more than fourteen, less than twenty two.

878
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: I think it's somewhere in there. Maybe I don't know.

879
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: Look what do I know? Okay? So Jabid came through

880
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: the chat. He said, Bobcasts won seven in twenty twelve.

881
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: Damn seven and fifty.

882
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 2: Is that a full season?

883
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 3: Twenty twelve?

884
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 1: Not if it was seven and fifty nine.

885
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 3: I thought twenty eleven was the oh yeah, no, never yeaheah.

886
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 2: But like the winning percentage is the lowest ever.

887
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: Right right, right? Well, hey, well guess what now? We

888
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: got to transition straight into the fourth quarter of Rapid

889
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: Bire a round of questioning. S it's always good having you, man,

890
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: but obviously still are in the hot seat, bro, so

891
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: we got to ask you these questions. You respond as

892
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: quick as possible. You don't just don't take your time, man,

893
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: come straight from the heart. Okay, yes, yeah, and we

894
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: will be rude to you if you take too much time.

895
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: So S are you ready?

896
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 2: I am?

897
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: I am okay, thank you, Thank you for the confirmation,

898
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: Brian start the clock. Yes, yes, man, it's so good

899
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: having you, bro. But I don't I don't want to IM.

900
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you one of the hardest questions. Now

901
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: you've seen some of the leaked City Edition jerseys for

902
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: this next season, Please tell me what is your favorite?

903
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 1: Shout out the favorites of the City Edition jerseys that

904
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: we're seeing for this season, because there's a lot of

905
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: options and I'm curious what tickles your heart.

906
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 3: I like the Raptors, the Vince Carter, Donking very Fire,

907
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 3: the Memphis Red with the Cursive.

908
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 2: Also explain that one to me, because yeah, I like it.

909
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: I don't get how it You don't.

910
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 3: Get it, Yeah, I have no idea how it's Memphis,

911
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:10,479
Speaker 3: but it's at school.

912
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is cool.

913
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 3: I'm assuming like there's some kind.

914
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 2: Of like soul music vibe to this or something. I

915
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 2: have no idea, no clue, no idea. Yeah. I liked

916
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 2: their one that looked like a No Limit album cover.

917
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, with thet Yeah.

918
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 3: They do well in general man Memphis as well.

919
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: With their jerseys.

920
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 3: I know, I know they're bringing back like the Grizzlies

921
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 3: white and like teal ones too, which would be cool.

922
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 3: I kind of like the Hawk's jerseys. I don't know

923
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 3: if you guys have seen this one.

924
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: Oh, it's like the Carolina blue and white.

925
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, the powder blue ones, Yeah, those are nice. Those

926
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 3: are nice.

927
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 2: A lot of teams going with the powder blue that

928
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 2: don't have a powder blue tradition necessarily. Cleveland is powder

929
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: blue with like white the land written on it. I

930
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 2: like the font, but I'm not seeing how like. I

931
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 2: guess that's the thing. The colorway needs to like make

932
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 2: some sense to me, like that it needs to like

933
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: in some way harken back to a color that has

934
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: ever been associated with your roster. It's true.

935
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, I feel like we like we should stop

936
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 3: doing new jerseys every year. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah,

937
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 3: do it like every five years or something, you know

938
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 3: what I mean, like stick with it, see how it is,

939
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 3: and then in five years you can be like, oh,

940
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 3: New City Edition Jersey coming up next, sure, you know.

941
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, or just give us, just give us the throwbacks

942
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: we deserve that we're always yearning for. Uh yeah, I

943
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: think there there's there's definitely some interesting stuff here. I'm

944
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: not a fan of the Lake Show one, but I do.

945
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: I really like the Raptors one. The Vince Carter not

946
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: is really dope.

947
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that seems to be the one that everybody, like,

948
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 2: everybody's favorite for the people who haven't seen it, it

949
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 2: is the Raptor that we were talking about up top,

950
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 2: the Red Dino doing the between the legs, Vince Carter

951
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: dunk right right right. Yeah.

952
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: We'll know more like once the official launches, because they

953
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: always like give you the backstory to like kind of

954
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: understand like what the inspiration was for each one. Okay,

955
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: that was a good That was a good answer, I

956
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: guess Jack.

957
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 2: Next, all right, you get to pick the next three

958
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 2: locations for the All Star Game. They don't have to

959
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 2: be places that have NBA teams currently.

960
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 1: What do you pick even in this country.

961
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 3: NFL players loved Rio de Janeiro. Okay, they didn't, by

962
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 3: the way, they did not, But let's let's throw them

963
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 3: in Brazil. Let's do Mexico City, and let's do Montreal.

964
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 3: I feel like Montreal would do a good job, you know, yeah.

965
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 2: Just for laughs, you know, just bring a little of

966
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 2: the just for laughs energy.

967
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 3: To little stand up comedy. I remember Cedric the entertainer

968
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 3: used to have these all star comedy things. I don't

969
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 3: he doesn't do it anymore, but they were fun.

970
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 2: Those were cool.

971
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Europe, oh me, ah, well, fantastic. If

972
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: the NBA scheduled the finals location similar to how the

973
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: NFL or even college basketball does, obviously completely unrelated to

974
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: the teams, where are you putting the next three finals venues?

975
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 2: All right?

976
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: Okay, but they should be they should be within like

977
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 1: North America, just for the purpose of, you know, making

978
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: obviously ease of travel. But I guess you can pick

979
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: yet whatever however you want.

980
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 3: Okay, Alaska does that count? That counts?

981
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, let's do Alaska counts. Baby, It's I'm just

982
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 2: getting word from our judges. That doesn't count. Okay, all right, okay, it.

983
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: Has to be a meticulous united explain why you know

984
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: the Hawaii is on the table. Okay, for some reason,

985
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: Hawaii is on the table. Alaska is not.

986
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll lean into Hawaii. Can we do Hawaii? That

987
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 2: would be cool? You know, yeah, you should be Actually no,

988
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 2: I'm just getting word that you can't do Hawaii for

989
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 2: some reason.

990
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 3: All right, Okay, no Hawaii. How about, like, I don't know,

991
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 3: let's go Vegas.

992
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 2: Yes, And we were just waiting for you to say

993
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 2: Vegas because we do want it to happen. Just say

994
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: that three times Vegas, Vegas? And what is the in

995
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 2: season tournament? Would be like this here because like last year,

996
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 2: there was excitement, but then the Lakers won and nobody

997
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 2: kind of became a nothing, Like how are they going

998
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 2: to keep people interested?

999
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question. I think the only way

1000
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,959
Speaker 3: to do that is if the games are really good.

1001
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 3: The question with that is how are the games going

1002
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 3: to be? Like you got to get the guys to

1003
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 3: buy in? I thought they bought in last year. Are

1004
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 3: they going to do it for a second year? Not sure,

1005
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 3: especially because nobody gave the Lakers credit for that, right,

1006
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 3: Like nobody was like, oh yeah, shout out to the Lakers.

1007
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: No, they didn't mean we were like flippantly being like

1008
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: in season tournament champions, the LA Lakers. Yeah, but not

1009
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: no one, no one, No one gets credit.

1010
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 2: Man.

1011
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: It's so hard out here, you know what I mean, Like,

1012
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: it's so tough. Dude, I don't even know I get

1013
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 1: through it, you know, but I'm brave, I guess is what.

1014
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, courage is the way you

1015
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 2: get through it.

1016
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, we really got to keep this movie. Man.

1017
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I don't know why I talk about sin

1018
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: season tournaments. Suddenly we had nothing nothing to do with

1019
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 1: the question, Jack, are you doing last one? Yeah?

1020
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 2: Last one? We're playing pick up with presidents and prime

1021
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 2: ministers for some reason, we just got the first pick.

1022
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 2: We took Obama. Yeah, and it can be anyone, anyone

1023
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 2: from history, and they are at their physical peak, the

1024
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 2: peak of their abilities.

1025
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 3: I'll take Uh, Jamie Fox as Tony Blair.

1026
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 2: Jamie Fox as Tony Blair.

1027
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 3: That's a that's a Chappelle skit for you guys. Uh,

1028
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 3: let me go. Man, Trump is like six ' four,

1029
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 3: you know he's not though, Man, do you think you

1030
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 3: think do you think that he's wearing he's wearing little

1031
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 3: escalades on his shoes.

1032
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Trump, I mean that says a lot about you.

1033
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 3: But yeah, but look, I'm trying to build a team here.

1034
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 3: You know who's a t is abe Lincoln Tall?

1035
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: Was he tall six four? Let me say he was

1036
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 1: like the best wrestler of his time.

1037
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 2: He was the number one wrestler of his time. I

1038
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 2: feel like he probably we're gonna give you some training,

1039
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,439
Speaker 2: training time with with him.

1040
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, give me, give me the links, give me

1041
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 3: give me uh Tony Blair, Uh the links.

1042
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: I like it, Jamie Fox.

1043
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 3: Version, Uh.

1044
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Damn?

1045
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 3: Who else do I have? Do I have to pick

1046
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 3: another guy?

1047
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: Like the most athletic, like Canadian prime minister? Like is

1048
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: there even anything like.

1049
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 3: That in the I mean the Canadian culture prime minister boxed,

1050
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 3: like Justin Trudeau boxes. I think he got some cardio

1051
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 3: at least.

1052
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do Justin some cardio.

1053
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but hey he can throw hands. Yeah, there it is.

1054
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 2: You have successfully passed through the A gauntlet.

1055
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 3: Every right, answer every single one, especially link Yeah, shout.

1056
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: Out links man A blinks, broy just blinks. They call

1057
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: it links links send him blink of And now he's gone,

1058
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 1: baby spar HAINI thank you so much for joining us, Jack.

1059
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: I'm at boost E's. Where do people find you? Follow you?

1060
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: Check out your work? Supports you all that.

1061
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 3: Find me on Twitter? Man at just that or X

1062
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 3: as they call it, don't at just a sparahine. You

1063
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 3: can find me on there.

1064
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: I do.

1065
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 3: I post all my stuff on there, So yeah, I

1066
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 3: appreciate you guys.

1067
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 2: Man always fun as always fun, always great, haven't you.

1068
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: You can follow the show at the hashtag mat boosties

1069
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: on Twitter. That's you find show links updates, and that's

1070
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 1: also how you can join the discussion on the discord server.

1071
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,760
Speaker 1: You can follow us on Twitter. I'm at Miles of Gray.

1072
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 2: I'm at Jack Underscore, Obrien and another one. We switched

1073
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 2: it this episode so flawless, lob dunk. Hey hang another band,

1074
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 2: hook hook.

1075
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: You know how many banners? That's one hundred and thirty

1076
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: two banners we've hung up so far. That's wild. You know,

1077
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: that's just how we do sit. We'll see you guys

1078
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: next time on Miles of Jack got mad boots and

1079
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: we are.

1080
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 2: Like the Celtics and that we counted even like back

1081
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 2: when there were only three podcasts yeah, We're still like, yeah, man,

1082
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 2: they'll still count and are just as impressive as the

1083
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: ones when there were thirty.

1084
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: Obviously obviously, all right, we'll calculator.

1085
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 2: Bye bye,