Speaker 1: And That's what you really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Welcome to and That's what you really miss podcasts. A
Speaker 1: very special episode. We are broadcasting from Blue Wires Studios
Speaker 1: at WIN Las Vegas with our very special friend Vanessa Lenji.
Speaker 1: Happy to be here.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you, if we can keep it together
Speaker 2: just long enough to get through this episode.
Speaker 1: I will be shocked. I don't know. This is a
Speaker 1: there's a lot, and this is a lot. Our energy
Speaker 1: is a lot. This episode is a lot. We're just
Speaker 1: we're a lot.
Speaker 2: We're well into our residency at the Wind Las Vegas,
Speaker 2: whether the Win Las Vegas knows it or not. We've
Speaker 2: already requested a standing desk for Jenna next episode.
Speaker 3: And the sitting desk for Kevin. Any sleeping desk for Vanessa. Yes,
Speaker 3: so just a tilted desk Hollywood type sez right.
Speaker 1: No no requests, just a small writer of a ten
Speaker 1: page writer. Welcome back, Vanessa, Thank you.
Speaker 2: She switched outfits.
Speaker 1: We This window outfit is something very special. She's a
Speaker 1: bridge house.
Speaker 2: And she's sitting in the window. So we're at the
Speaker 2: wynd Hotel in Las Vegas and there's a window I
Speaker 2: feel like we're in a zoo, but we get to
Speaker 2: watch like they can't comment on us, we can comment
Speaker 2: on them. This is great. This is how I want
Speaker 2: to live my life all the time.
Speaker 1: Great because we live here now, yeah, this is it.
Speaker 1: I would live here. Can we squat here? No, Kevin,
Speaker 1: you can't announce that you're squatting and then squat. You
Speaker 1: got to just squat waters right. I actually didn't know
Speaker 1: what squatting was until christ And Channel episode of Home
Speaker 1: and when she was a squatter?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, in the show. Do you remember Jenna lived
Speaker 2: with me, stayed with me for a little bit like
Speaker 2: one piled season, and there was a house across the
Speaker 2: street and they were.
Speaker 1: They were squatting in the house, squatters for years with
Speaker 1: the birds. Yes, there were the squatters.
Speaker 2: They had birds.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's.
Speaker 2: A fun fact.
Speaker 1: I'd love to know.
Speaker 2: When and Jenna was staying with me, we'd put each
Speaker 2: other on tape for auditions and things, and Jenna had
Speaker 2: a motto that she'd repeat for herself and for me, Jenna,
Speaker 2: what was it.
Speaker 1: Ww VLD What would Vanessa Lengs do? And you know
Speaker 1: what that was? For every audition I would go in,
Speaker 1: I'd wear a different colored lipstick. I would give them
Speaker 1: the riskiest version of that character, and i would just
Speaker 1: do something different because we always said that you were
Speaker 1: one of a kind, and that's why you booked so much,
Speaker 1: because there's only one Vanessa out there, whereas like, you know,
Speaker 1: these cookie cutter people come in me trying to be
Speaker 1: a cookie cutter thing coming in and I'm like, that's
Speaker 1: not how you book jobs. You you just emanate Vanessa.
Speaker 3: Ngis I just do something weirder than they were expecting you.
Speaker 2: To do the thing you actually want to do, that's
Speaker 2: fair and not feel bad about it. Yeah, you're scared
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 1: You're like unapologetically you or whatever it was at the
Speaker 1: time in your life that you were feeling weird or different,
Speaker 1: it was it was working.
Speaker 3: Is working, bring yourself pleasure and then they will feel that.
Speaker 2: I know we have a recap to do, but I
Speaker 2: have a question about that, because what when you get
Speaker 2: an audition or something, what is your approach to her secrets?
Speaker 1: I'll give you all this.
Speaker 2: I'm just because like watching you act is like watching
Speaker 2: Slean Beyonce whoa or coming across the Daltons in a
Speaker 2: pod in the ocean because it's it's like so juicy,
Speaker 2: Like I feel like you read a page and you
Speaker 2: see something so much more than I ever could, Like
Speaker 2: you see all the subtext? Do you see all that
Speaker 2: this character could be, even if it's just a word.
Speaker 2: What is that process like for you?
Speaker 1: Okay, this is great.
Speaker 3: I think I was an only child and I was
Speaker 3: alone a lot, so my fantasy land is well practiced.
Speaker 2: We still have access to that.
Speaker 1: I still have access to that.
Speaker 3: I was also acting since I was five or six
Speaker 3: years old, so I don't think I ever got a
Speaker 3: chance to use access, which is a whole other story.
Speaker 3: Uh No, I chose this. I chose this career. I
Speaker 3: chose this career. I chose, I chose this career. I
Speaker 3: choose this career.
Speaker 1: I choose. Okay, So here's my here's my thing.
Speaker 3: I read it and I imagine it, and I read
Speaker 3: it again and again again again and again again. I read
Speaker 3: it so many times until it kind of paints itself.
Speaker 3: So I know what the walls look like in the room,
Speaker 3: and I know what I'm wearing, and then you know,
Speaker 3: there's like all these details that come the more you
Speaker 3: read it, the more you read it, the more you
Speaker 3: read it, there's more details, and I leave the details.
Speaker 3: And and then I tell myself, if I'm not going
Speaker 3: to have fun, if I'm not going to enjoy myself
Speaker 3: going to this audition, then I shouldn't go.
Speaker 1: By the way, I never not go.
Speaker 3: So that's a weird rule I have with myself because
Speaker 3: I also I should turn down more auditions, but I
Speaker 3: can't because I think, and I SI, you're so lucky
Speaker 3: to have this opportunity. If you say no, that's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like punching a gift horse in the mouth. What's
Speaker 3: the expression that, I don't think you punch them? But
Speaker 3: don't take that look it up. You do something with
Speaker 3: a gift horse, which is weird.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I need that explained.
Speaker 3: But whatever it is, I don't want to do it
Speaker 3: when it comes to auditions.
Speaker 1: The poor horse. Okay. The thing is, don't look a
Speaker 1: gift horse in the mouth. And it means that you
Speaker 1: shouldn't criticize a gift, even if you don't like it
Speaker 1: very much. A gift horse, in other words, is a gift.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I see auditions as a gift because
Speaker 3: a lot of people want to do what we do right,
Speaker 3: and a lot of people don't get to. So every
Speaker 3: time I have one, I think, okay, I have to,
Speaker 3: you know, see this as the gift. And then if
Speaker 3: I'm going to go, which I am going to go,
Speaker 3: I better love it. This is good advice for all children.
Speaker 3: So HI, enjoy everything you do, don't do it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So then so then like how do I how
Speaker 1: do I how do I love this?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: How do I love this? How do I have fun here?
Speaker 3: And usually that'll involve some kind of weird costume thing
Speaker 3: that delights me. I love I think it's funny, or
Speaker 3: a lot of the times it's a oh I could
Speaker 3: do this weird nuanced reference from the sound of music
Speaker 3: that no one will ever pick up on, but I
Speaker 3: will know that it's a shout.
Speaker 1: So I'll do that.
Speaker 3: I'll mix in things that I love that I secretly
Speaker 3: just obsessively love. Let's see what else do I do
Speaker 3: I really love that? I also, all I used to
Speaker 3: do this one was in person auditions. I think of
Speaker 3: everything in terms of relationship, so like, of course we
Speaker 3: have an amazing relationship. And when I think back to
Speaker 3: even meeting and us getting to know each other, naturally,
Speaker 3: the three of us kind of just congealed, and we
Speaker 3: had good vibes between three of us. So when I
Speaker 3: go into an audition, I think of that, Like, let's
Speaker 3: say Sam's here and you're casting for us. I would
Speaker 3: walk into that room and less focused on the audition
Speaker 3: and more about what relationship I'm building with you, because
Speaker 3: we're actually co creating whatever, even if we don't even
Speaker 3: if don't get the job, we're co creating what happens
Speaker 3: in the room. So I'm constantly thinking about that.
Speaker 1: And then she's so good, you guys.
Speaker 3: And then then wait, and then there's also this thing
Speaker 3: called PAD, which is post audition depression.
Speaker 1: It happens every single.
Speaker 3: Time I go to me and you just have to
Speaker 3: have room for a pad and you have to take
Speaker 3: really like you have to just be like okay, and
Speaker 3: then you go down and you're.
Speaker 1: Like that sucked. I suck.
Speaker 3: Everything sucks. I should never. I'm never working again. I
Speaker 3: should never. I shouldn't work at the post office. Nothing
Speaker 3: against post office work, because that's great too, but like whatever,
Speaker 3: I should just not be, you know, in front of
Speaker 3: a camera ever again. And so I just let let
Speaker 3: myself have that. So that so that here's what that does.
Speaker 3: It's like all the criticism that could happen, or all
Speaker 3: the anxiety that could happen before I walk into the
Speaker 3: room with Sam or with whoever, my whatever, that part
Speaker 3: of me that self critic I'm like, you're going to
Speaker 3: get your moments right.
Speaker 1: You can, you can beat me up, you can just
Speaker 1: hold I'm going to give you.
Speaker 3: That nice pad afterwards, or you're going to get to
Speaker 3: shit talk me to your heart's content, but not here,
Speaker 3: because you know, if we don't go into that room
Speaker 3: thinking that we're going to get the job, there's no
Speaker 3: way we're going to get the job.
Speaker 2: You're totally right, I mean because I've been in that
Speaker 2: room several times being like this isn't for me.
Speaker 1: That's what you should just get. That's what you get.
Speaker 3: And you know it's not a science, but at least
Speaker 3: when you look back at your life, you're like, I
Speaker 3: had a good time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: Once you I had to adjust myself being like, let
Speaker 2: me just enjoy this because maybe the only opportunity to
Speaker 2: have to play this character.
Speaker 1: Isn't here, so let me just enjoy it.
Speaker 2: I also like how you like analyze a script where
Speaker 2: like you're seeing everything, so like all the work is
Speaker 2: done before you go into the room or put yourself
Speaker 2: on tape, because you already know how you as a
Speaker 2: character exists in that world, so you don't worry about it.
Speaker 3: And then I'd say, try to try to not practice
Speaker 3: how you're going to say something as much as possible,
Speaker 3: because I used to get caught up on that, like
Speaker 3: on how it should sound coming out of my mouth, and.
Speaker 1: When I see that.
Speaker 3: Thinking about the story you told me on the plane
Speaker 3: on the way here about dated running. He doesn't listen
Speaker 3: to these podcast lines with you and you guys, I
Speaker 3: love him such a sweetie.
Speaker 1: What was I saying? I don't know. Oh, I was saying, no.
Speaker 2: Getting too stuck in how you like?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because when.
Speaker 3: You're missing the relationship, right, yeah, you're missing playing off
Speaker 3: another person.
Speaker 1: You created the world and you know who the character is.
Speaker 1: Your instinct of that character when you go in there
Speaker 1: is already given. So if you're so focused on the lines,
Speaker 1: you haven't thought and you haven't thought about the world,
Speaker 1: it's probably a good thing because then you at least
Speaker 1: say the lines in some way that you wanted to.
Speaker 1: But if you've created the world, you just trust the
Speaker 1: way your instincts are going to give or what they're
Speaker 1: going to say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and knowing that even the parts that you probably
Speaker 3: didn't plan probably the best parts.
Speaker 2: And that makes it fun because you're discovering it in
Speaker 2: there with the person you now built this relationship with exactly.
Speaker 1: And then they feel like a genius, right because then
Speaker 1: they contributed. Yes, Okay, wow, thank you for that. Thank
Speaker 1: you for sharing that, because again, what would Vanessa and
Speaker 1: she just do? Now, that's what she would do. That's
Speaker 1: that's what you really missed. Kids.
Speaker 2: Listen, you can go to NYU for Forum kidding.
Speaker 1: This is season three, episode twelve, The Spanish Teacher, and
Speaker 1: this air on February seventh, twenty twelve.
Speaker 2: What was going on in the world Kevin set Fire
Speaker 2: to the Rain by Adell was a number one song
Speaker 2: set Fire to This episode was also.
Speaker 1: A part of this Yeah, very good Chronicle was a
Speaker 1: number one movie.
Speaker 2: That movie was great.
Speaker 1: Actually I didn't see it, but another one I haven't
Speaker 1: launched Michael B.
Speaker 2: Jordan's career. Also wasn't Dane Dehan and that movie I
Speaker 2: think I don't know. I could be like I didn't
Speaker 2: tell you he was in it. Yeah, that movie was
Speaker 2: a gigantic like launching pad for.
Speaker 1: It's quite a few movies that we've watched that have
Speaker 1: been number one that we haven't seen. It convinced.
Speaker 2: Chronicle was great. Glean news this week afterwards he's ended
Speaker 2: in the Big Michael episode.
Speaker 3: It was a quiet week, nothing happened. So this episode,
Speaker 3: why do you guys sound so sad?
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, yeah, let me know.
Speaker 2: You watched it.
Speaker 1: I did. It was we were in it. Jenna, you
Speaker 1: guys were both in it. What were you doing this week?
Speaker 1: Jenna's head had been removed from her body. I had
Speaker 1: unhinged my jaw, it was on the ground. My feet
Speaker 1: were removed from my body as well. This is your
Speaker 1: PTOM paid time off. See you later. I was wondering
Speaker 1: what I was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when they showed me which episodes we're doing and
Speaker 3: said Jenna wasn't in it, I was like, how honest
Speaker 3: do you guys get on this podcast, because let's get honest.
Speaker 3: I just felt like they were I mean, I'm glad
Speaker 3: that it was paid time off, but I just didn't
Speaker 3: agree with why how they treated you.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. Yeah, it's a tough. It was
Speaker 1: a tough time to be away. It was actually strange
Speaker 1: to be away, not on my terms. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: they were like, you know, you have to be away,
Speaker 1: but they it was kind of like that. It was
Speaker 1: a nice It was actually a nice break, but it
Speaker 1: also was like, had I chosen to take it off
Speaker 1: so it would have felt better, Yeah, did you think
Speaker 1: it was off?
Speaker 2: Did you go somewhere?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: I stayed home. I also didn't want them to be like, well,
Speaker 1: I come back and they're like, well, you went to Hawaii?
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Like I couldn't win anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how I saw it too. I was like, there's
Speaker 1: not getting a chance to win, So you know, I
Speaker 1: just took the time off. I did some reflecting, and
Speaker 1: in a few episodes, I'm gonna get a really fucking
Speaker 1: great episode Tina gets to be Rachel Berry. Maybe that's
Speaker 1: also a metaphor for what was happening at the time.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Home oh man. Anyway, I actually am kind of grateful
Speaker 1: so I have not been in this episode. After watching it,
Speaker 1: I missed you all for sure, but I really I'm
Speaker 1: I'm my jaw was on the ground when I watched
Speaker 1: this the other night. Had you seen this episode before.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, no that makes sense. I also like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like it's like it doesn't bring back good memories. So
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that I was like sitting down to
Speaker 1: watch this. Yeah, I don't imagine, you know, yeah, like
Speaker 1: a smile and face on. This was directed by Paris Barclay.
Speaker 1: Also God blessom we love Paris like had to do this,
Speaker 1: Oh no, wonder why I did fun dance things. Paris
Speaker 1: always let me do fun.
Speaker 3: Dancing him and Eric him and Eric always they were like,
Speaker 3: we'll let you.
Speaker 2: Behind the spirder halfway through because like who directed this?
Speaker 2: Because we were all on one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: Doing things that we were like. Amber started one of
Speaker 2: the musical numbers like sitting up. I was like, that
Speaker 2: is weird.
Speaker 1: I know on this side the thing, I was so weird.
Speaker 1: But I will say, uh, Paris has come on the
Speaker 1: podcast great and he calls some of these things auchi's
Speaker 1: oh and so I would call this whole episode a
Speaker 1: big old Auchi got through it. He did get through it, Okay,
Speaker 1: So this was what we're going to get into this
Speaker 1: or not get into it and kind of talk around it.
Speaker 1: This is directed by Paris we love Paris. This was
Speaker 1: written technically by Ian Brennan and it was a very
Speaker 1: special guest star, Ricky Martin. Are you kidding? I was said,
Speaker 1: I missed Ricky.
Speaker 2: Well, Vanessa and I have shared something in common.
Speaker 3: Tell Ricky Martin was both Kevin and my first concert.
Speaker 1: Wow, not the same place I was in Montreal.
Speaker 3: I was Dallas and Ricky came out on that car. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and it was the loudest I had never heard my
Speaker 3: ears hurt so much. I didn't know concerts were like
Speaker 3: that either. And they didn't have parents who cared enough
Speaker 3: to put your I mean I wasn't that young.
Speaker 1: Wait a second, I don't think I went with my parents.
Speaker 2: Shoot, I was my mom.
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go. We didn't get headphones, is what
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 3: Those like noise canceling my ears.
Speaker 1: We're definitely damned.
Speaker 2: I just didn't know. It was like I had been
Speaker 2: living in a cave my whole life. And then I
Speaker 2: stepped into that arena, and then he stepped out on
Speaker 2: stage in those leather pants and sixteen thousand women started screaming.
Speaker 1: Is that when you realized you were again? The moment
Speaker 1: I don't think that was it was it before or after.
Speaker 2: I don't think it was then.
Speaker 1: What if it was.
Speaker 3: I think it's the moment I realized I was gay,
Speaker 3: And if you could have that same moment simultaneous, that's
Speaker 3: why it was connected.
Speaker 2: It definitely was something around it, though, because there were
Speaker 2: rumors about him, and I remember hearing like my family
Speaker 2: talk about it and like especially tuning into it, and
Speaker 2: like if I wasn't concerned about it, I wouldn't have
Speaker 2: been tuning into it, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 2: don't think I realized why.
Speaker 3: I would pick up on what's interesting to us and
Speaker 3: we don't consciously maybe no.
Speaker 1: And I think it was like, well, how do they
Speaker 1: feel about it?
Speaker 3: Sort of gauging the totally totally just do the gods
Speaker 3: think this is good or bad?
Speaker 1: Exact people are not. Okay, So you guys were Ricky
Speaker 1: Ricky fans.
Speaker 3: We're Ricky fans, and Kevin and I, you know, bonded
Speaker 3: over the fact that was our first concert and then
Speaker 3: was so exciting that he was there.
Speaker 2: Can we tell him?
Speaker 1: I'm sure we told him. I mean we were.
Speaker 3: When I think back of this episode, it was everyone
Speaker 3: was falling over each other to try to get closer
Speaker 3: to him and tell him just like like offer adulation,
Speaker 3: like just like can we okay first covered in sex?
Speaker 1: I need to know. I need to tell me. So
Speaker 1: everybody's a Ricky fan. He's gorgeous. You guys were big fans.
Speaker 1: You went to the concert, Yeah, you know that was
Speaker 1: your first concert. What was he like and who got
Speaker 1: close to him? Like, because when Gwyneth came in, like
Speaker 1: there was a handful of people that kind of like
Speaker 1: got into her circle a little bit. She like allowed in, right,
Speaker 1: she was very kind to everybody, but like there's a
Speaker 1: few select people. So I'm I want to know what
Speaker 1: Ricky was like and how that what that dynamic was
Speaker 1: on SAT or did he kind of like step away?
Speaker 2: And I don't remember him being as Gwynneth was like
Speaker 2: down for everything. She like was hanging out one like
Speaker 2: what's the hot goss like totally we were talking about
Speaker 2: like current music. I don't my perspective. I was also
Speaker 2: very intimidated by Gwyneth, but she sort of I don't
Speaker 2: nip that in the bud pretty quickly as much as
Speaker 2: she could right by being so approachable. Ricky Martin was
Speaker 2: not unapproachable, but I was also so intimidated, and I
Speaker 2: think I needed him to sort of like break the
Speaker 2: ice for me. Well, like I think I maybe.
Speaker 1: Spoke to him like once or twice because I.
Speaker 2: Was like sitting in the room just sort.
Speaker 1: Of like I am shocked.
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody got really close, and I think
Speaker 3: he was. I think we were objectifying him, to be honest,
Speaker 3: probably I think everyone was.
Speaker 1: Just like yours. Well, he must be so used to
Speaker 1: that too that he's like, who do I even allow
Speaker 1: to like be near me?
Speaker 2: Well, he was coming in?
Speaker 3: When was where was he on his coming out?
Speaker 2: He was yeah, But like the only real thing I
Speaker 2: remember was watching him eat lunch in the choir room.
Speaker 1: Goodness coming.
Speaker 2: Because he got like, you know, we would eat like trash,
Speaker 2: we'd eat like whatever was around.
Speaker 1: What did he eat?
Speaker 2: And he like had like his assistant bring him like
Speaker 2: a really nice salad of course, And I was just like,
Speaker 2: he's here working these long days, he's so fine.
Speaker 1: And what is he eating?
Speaker 2: He's eating a salad. I'm like, I'm tired and want
Speaker 2: to eat brown. Because I was mostly judging myself like
Speaker 2: I'm not doing enough?
Speaker 1: Why am I not eating a salad? Why am I
Speaker 1: eating this? But he was so so nice, but he
Speaker 1: was it was very much like very nice. I remember that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember that. It was very nice. He wasn't there
Speaker 1: to make friends.
Speaker 3: He was there to do to do his thing, and
Speaker 3: I felt like he I didn't see much difference in
Speaker 3: his personality between the character and him, Like he was
Speaker 3: a sweet, warn nice teeth man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no notes, because there were some people that would
Speaker 2: come on and like you would see the different levels
Speaker 2: understandably of how much they were trying to integrate and
Speaker 2: get to know us, but like that takes a lot
Speaker 2: of extra energy to do that.
Speaker 1: And to be fair, he was only in one episode.
Speaker 1: Like the other guests like Gwenna came back, like Staymos
Speaker 1: who were close with he came back, So like there's
Speaker 1: a there's an icebreaker, and then there's an inn. And
Speaker 1: when you only see him once, it's like how much
Speaker 1: can you get in that amount of time when you
Speaker 1: were his number?
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know if anyone did. I will say
Speaker 2: I was watching this episode in the hotel room last
Speaker 2: night and I had two friends with me and we
Speaker 2: were watching sex and I know it started and my
Speaker 2: friend Cleia was like, Kevin, your voice is like so
Speaker 2: identifiable just from like one sound, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't think that's me singing, because I would remember
Speaker 2: if I did a song with Ricky Martin, right, it
Speaker 2: was absolutely me and I It was the first moment
Speaker 2: really where I was looking at myself, hearing myself, and
Speaker 2: I felt like, am I okay?
Speaker 1: Is my brain okay? Because I have no absolutely.
Speaker 2: Zero recollection of recording that song, And like there's times where,
Speaker 2: like you know, we'll see something come up and I
Speaker 2: don't initially remember it. I'm like, oh, as we're watching it,
Speaker 2: the memory started to come back. Nothing.
Speaker 1: I feel like Kevin though. Sometimes they bundled a bunch
Speaker 1: of songs together, like you do two songs in an episode,
Speaker 1: especially if it's a short kind of like little stint
Speaker 1: in like or chorus or an ad lib, so you
Speaker 1: just like, I know, there's a lot going on for
Speaker 1: you emotionally.
Speaker 2: I do have to say, I don't know if the
Speaker 2: wind knew what was up. But I walked down. I
Speaker 2: got down from my room tonight today to walk here,
Speaker 2: and Madonna's song from the episode was playing in the casino. Yes,
Speaker 2: it was very I was walking to breakfast and I
Speaker 2: was like, okay, this is weird. The wind knows the
Speaker 2: wind Las Vegas has its finger on the pulse, on
Speaker 2: the pulse talking about songs so sexy and I know it.
Speaker 3: And I wanted to talk about the fact that Zach
Speaker 3: had me roll down Harry Harry's body in that scene.
Speaker 3: I actually wrote down, like did a log roll like
Speaker 3: you would do down Grass down Harry's body onto the floor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they really You said yes a lot? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: said yes a lot.
Speaker 3: Any like I think that in the sleep deprivation and
Speaker 3: over exhaustion of Zach's mine and Brooke and Brittany too,
Speaker 3: probably whenever they had a like a fever dream of
Speaker 3: an outlandish damp opportunity, they would be like, Vanessa will
Speaker 3: do it. Vanessa will roll down somebody's body onto the floor, totally.
Speaker 3: Vanessa will do the what's that called the helicopter. I
Speaker 3: had to do the helicopter. Yes, it's a break dancing movie.
Speaker 3: And I was like, I don't even know how to
Speaker 3: do this, but I will do it. You're like, I'll
Speaker 3: try try it. And I was in a dress and
Speaker 3: I was on stage doing I think that was another
Speaker 3: Paris episode and we had to do it double time
Speaker 3: or triple time, or it was when you ago do
Speaker 3: a double time yeah, across the ridge.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care. We had to do
Speaker 1: we had to do double time, and then I had
Speaker 1: to do a hell whatever that move is. We were
Speaker 1: running down anything. We even ended up in the in.
Speaker 3: The in the show, well that double time did double
Speaker 3: time did? Yeah, but not my not my special breakdown.
Speaker 1: That's wow.
Speaker 2: That's a hard song to do two times as fast
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 1: Oh, it was QUI actually crazy, Okay, I'm sorry. Well
Speaker 1: but as we warned the Vanessa, we'll say yes and
Speaker 1: that that Ricky Martin number. All I remember is wow,
Speaker 1: I'm I don't know how this is going to go.
Speaker 1: And I rolled down his body on the floor.
Speaker 2: I similarly I had to do like the body. He
Speaker 2: and I were doing like matching body roles, and I
Speaker 2: just like I think I couldn't contain myself. I was
Speaker 2: texting my family the whole time, like, I can't believe
Speaker 2: I'm doing this with Ricky Martin right now.
Speaker 1: You were really stars.
Speaker 2: I was very starstruck because it was someone like so
Speaker 2: formative to like my adolescent brain musically and therefore like professionally,
Speaker 2: and then also maybe.
Speaker 1: Homo, Yeah for sure, who knows for sure? Yes?
Speaker 2: Okay, So also don't want to lose you Bomboo and hero.
Speaker 1: Lasha keep going lah lab mona.
Speaker 2: A little less conversation in cucaracha.
Speaker 1: Don't talk about it, don't say it.
Speaker 3: You talk about Naya's beautiful legs and dancing and face
Speaker 3: when she sings, and I mean, I mean you'll get to.
Speaker 1: That great all right. So there's some fun veacts about
Speaker 1: this episode that we should talk about. So I remember
Speaker 1: November twenty ninth, twenty eleven, the day news broke that
Speaker 1: Ricky Martin had closed a deal with Glee to guest
Speaker 1: star in an episode. Ricky tweeted, I hear McKinley High
Speaker 1: has an opening for a Spanish teacher. Y'all apply sexy mm.
Speaker 1: Ricky also recorded his songs on January fourth, and the
Speaker 1: episode began filming in January fifth.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Club. He got thrown in real quick.
Speaker 2: He finished filming the scenes that week. He shot from
Speaker 2: the fifth to the seventh.
Speaker 1: They shoot him out. So it was that quick. So
Speaker 1: that's why you guys numbers. Yeah, makes sense. It felt
Speaker 1: like a like a drive. Well he did great.
Speaker 3: Then that whole speech he did about being a teeth
Speaker 3: tooth model.
Speaker 1: Teeth model, that's probably what he's probably just cheting it together.
Speaker 2: To get through a lot to say.
Speaker 1: And then he also landed this that big monologue.
Speaker 3: Was uh will will at the end. That was beautiful.
Speaker 3: So he crushed it in three days. That's amazing.
Speaker 2: I was very impressed by his acting and also like
Speaker 2: the whole One of my favorite parts of the episode
Speaker 2: was his whole speech about being a teeth model, because
Speaker 2: it reminded me of earlier seasons of was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: this is satire, Yes, this isn't racist, yes, which was
Speaker 2: refreshing during the episode. Didn't get a lot of time
Speaker 2: for that. And he's just so natural. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: know why.
Speaker 1: I very good. But he also he was in General
Speaker 1: Hospital for a long time. Wasn't he like he he
Speaker 1: had acted before his music career?
Speaker 2: Right? I mean, as my mom and sister who were
Speaker 2: obsessed General hospital, I learned that at a very young age.
Speaker 2: It was oh, litn't love you to look? A sung
Speaker 2: by the guy that was on General Hospital?
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my family. Filming for Michael was not
Speaker 2: still not finished. We had mentioned and the two episodes
Speaker 2: continued in parallel until the final Michael Jack's Number was
Speaker 2: shot on January thirteenth, the same day as the thirteenth
Speaker 2: episode Heart started filming.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm remembering this now because I was. I was saying,
Speaker 3: you know, fifteen to seventeen hour days and well into Saturday.
Speaker 3: And now I'm remembering when we started to double shoot episodes,
Speaker 3: triple shoot, and how insane that is. I mean, we
Speaker 3: really needed eighteen days in per episode truly to do
Speaker 3: it like where everyone got to rest and where everyone
Speaker 3: felt calm and everyone's mental health was taking care of.
Speaker 3: You needed probably eighteen days. And instead we were doing
Speaker 3: each episode in eight days some and then yah yeah,
Speaker 3: and then and when with a whole other crew, and
Speaker 3: you'd have to go between sets between episodes between it
Speaker 3: was crazy.
Speaker 2: If the show was made now, and it was would
Speaker 2: probably be ten episodes like how great sheet, like some
Speaker 2: more time to actually.
Speaker 3: Except when you think about your paycheck checks. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: the paycheck and there waiting, I actually can't afford to live.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, never mind, I take it back, right, give
Speaker 1: us twenty two, but mentally, mentally give us ten. Yes,
Speaker 1: mentally give me ten. Pay me for twenty two. Isn't
Speaker 1: it too much as it's just like I just like
Speaker 1: I'm asking for like a little bit like give me
Speaker 1: twenty two episodes. This is the seventh episode where Rachel
Speaker 1: doesn't sing a solo and Jenna and Darren, though credited,
Speaker 1: do not appear in this episode PTO Bitches. Darren is
Speaker 1: off doing how to Succeed in Business with that where
Speaker 1: you're trying on Broadway at the time, Vanessa, And this
Speaker 1: marks the first episode in which Tina is not there.
Speaker 1: That's the first episode that I was not in and
Speaker 1: it will be the last episode until I become a
Speaker 1: recur from a series regular in season six.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: That went long. That was a long time.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean none of us really had any episodes off. No,
Speaker 1: so you were in every episode, right, Kevin.
Speaker 2: No, I was the only one to do one hundred
Speaker 2: straight episode. Okay, Okay, that's good. And then I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: and I got to.
Speaker 1: Do a movie, got it, got it? Got it.
Speaker 2: Spanish is Harry's first language because he was born in
Speaker 2: Costa Rica. Always forget that lived there until his family
Speaker 2: moved to the US when he was six, So Harry's
Speaker 2: tri lingual. There's nothing Harry can't. Yes, you can literally
Speaker 2: have Vanessa roll down his hard as. During the performance
Speaker 2: of sexteen I Know It, Finn draws a face on
Speaker 2: a box, which is reference to the shuffle bot from
Speaker 2: L M FAO, the group who originally performs.
Speaker 1: I noticed that, and I was like, yeah on.
Speaker 2: The second time. This is the second time we see Mercedes,
Speaker 2: Rachel and Kurt having a sleepover in the twelfth episode
Speaker 2: of the season, the first time being in.
Speaker 1: Season two episodes twelve, Soill he loved Songs.
Speaker 2: I love that little circular moment.
Speaker 3: That's right, and I love who's tracking how many sleepovers
Speaker 3: there have been featured on the show?
Speaker 1: Is that just a personal obsession?
Speaker 4: God?
Speaker 2: Is so A little summary of this episode, Yes, so
Speaker 2: Well signs a gig club a Spanish singing assignment and
Speaker 2: enlists the help of his musically inclined night school Spanish teacher. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: Rachel spills the beans to Curt and Mercedes on Finn's
Speaker 2: marriage proposal, and Mercedes has love complications of her own.
Speaker 1: Okay, look.
Speaker 2: In one breath, It's like, yes, address the elephant in
Speaker 2: the room. That Will is the Spanish teacher and clearly
Speaker 2: speaks no Spanish like great, but that's probably where the
Speaker 2: good stops, right, it starts and stop. I mean just
Speaker 2: the list of songs, right, Like I felt like I
Speaker 2: was losing my mind watching this a bit.
Speaker 1: Like I was talking to myself while I was watching this,
Speaker 1: like how is this real?
Speaker 2: It felt like the things you're in one breath. It's
Speaker 2: I think a lot of times the show is so
Speaker 2: good at walking the line of like satire and being
Speaker 2: commenting on society in a way that is witty and
Speaker 2: funny and dark. Right, And it works, Yes, it does.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you cross the line and it doesn't work.
Speaker 3: And sometimes you cross the line so far that the
Speaker 3: line is a dot. Yes, I have this thing that
Speaker 3: just popped in my head and I don't know if
Speaker 3: this is weird. I'm also waving people taking pictures, which
Speaker 3: is is that you know when we you know, you
Speaker 3: think of Italians, okay, and you love people people love
Speaker 3: talking with Italian accents and doing this and this and
Speaker 3: this and a pizza and apasta and a whole thing,
Speaker 3: and we it's still not culturally understood that that that
Speaker 3: that we're inappropriate. It's still like Italian is the one
Speaker 3: that you can still like. It's just it's not weird,
Speaker 3: it's not cringe, it's not auchy. But maybe in ten
Speaker 3: years Italian people are gonna be like, fuck you can't.
Speaker 1: Maybe they do now, maybe they do now, you know,
Speaker 1: And I.
Speaker 3: Just I just I just want to, you know, get
Speaker 3: let everybody off the hook, ever so slightly. You don't
Speaker 3: know just the time, Yeah, I do you understand and learn?
Speaker 2: That was the thing?
Speaker 1: This show is in a time capsule.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it's very much of the time. And I
Speaker 2: think looking back, honestly, when we started this whole thing,
Speaker 2: I thought a lot more with age poorly and it
Speaker 2: has yeah, agreed, And I think because the contract of
Speaker 2: the show being a satire, you can get away with
Speaker 2: a lot more. Yes, and so it's sort of like
Speaker 2: the I guess just the racist things.
Speaker 1: That are really aging as well.
Speaker 2: Right, No, totally, yeah, I mean I felt weird doing
Speaker 2: like kukaracha.
Speaker 1: Oh well you should have. Did you feel we're doing
Speaker 1: it while you were shooting it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, good, tell us about how you felt while you
Speaker 3: were shooting what was going on?
Speaker 2: It is like you're in the scene, right.
Speaker 1: And your job and it's like.
Speaker 2: Okay, well this is supposed to be like funny and
Speaker 2: absurd because it's so wrong that we're doing it right.
Speaker 2: So then it's like, oh, these kids are just doing
Speaker 2: what they're told, so like we're just really committed to
Speaker 2: the bit. But then when you see it all in
Speaker 2: forty four minutes of like one number after another, we
Speaker 2: committed too hard.
Speaker 3: So it's like the show was trying to send a
Speaker 3: message that that there's this inappropriate age thing happening.
Speaker 1: The show is trying to convey that.
Speaker 3: But because of the amount of cringe, well he didn't
Speaker 3: balance out or.
Speaker 1: Something culturally appropriating and presenting and being reductive. Why yes,
Speaker 1: while we are commenting on it, it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: just don't do it.
Speaker 2: What are you trying to say? But than like, no,
Speaker 2: we're just reaffirming all that.
Speaker 1: We need to find a storyline for Ricky. So let's
Speaker 1: just make Will be the butt of this really bad
Speaker 1: Have you had him on the show Ricky? No, yeah
Speaker 1: yet not yet.
Speaker 3: You should ask him about how he would be really
Speaker 3: fascinating for me. I just said, we have to say
Speaker 3: all together that this is we say it all at
Speaker 3: the same time. No to say no, we're saying we're
Speaker 3: saying no. Okay, just say no, no, We've all said it.
Speaker 1: Also inappropriately, Sue is trying to have a baby. Now, well,
Speaker 1: why is there always a baby? What does that mean?
Speaker 2: I think Ryan Murphy loves a baby.
Speaker 1: What do you mean by why is there always a baby?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: No, But there's also no, no, she didn't so sus
Speaker 1: now trying to have a baby, there was a fake baby.
Speaker 1: There's also Quinn has been trying to steal her baby,
Speaker 1: her technical biological baby back from Shelby for such a
Speaker 1: long time, where you have finally moved on from that storyline,
Speaker 1: and yet here we are sus now trying to have
Speaker 1: a baby. It's like, what is with the babies?
Speaker 2: Because babies representing I'm kidding.
Speaker 1: Babies don't don't you know. I'm not saying like, let's
Speaker 1: show on the babies. I love the babies. Just it's
Speaker 1: just it's like a lie. I think it's you know,
Speaker 1: I think it's provocative. Okay, fine, because I think that
Speaker 1: you know, you know, Ryan was a provocateur. Is loves
Speaker 1: to you know, and people love to be provoked. And
Speaker 1: when you're talking about like motherhood and child rearing and babies,
Speaker 1: it's the it's a very vulnerable, easy to provoke spot.
Speaker 1: I think, like I was the Nanini scene where she's
Speaker 1: telling Sue that she's too old of a baby. I felt,
Speaker 1: I felt my feelings get hurt, Like, this is a
Speaker 1: show that you were on, that's funny. They literally kill
Speaker 1: all kinds of people and build all kinds of people up.
Speaker 3: So that's the nature of the show you're watching. But
Speaker 3: I couldn't stop my little feelings from getting hurt.
Speaker 1: Why is Nini so funny? Oh, she's amazing. Actually forgot
Speaker 1: how good she was.
Speaker 2: Also to give someone who is not an actor, this
Speaker 2: must have been like three page wrong and she and
Speaker 2: also some of it obviously is like offensive and whatever. However,
Speaker 2: as I was gasping at the content of it, I
Speaker 2: was also gasping a simultaneous delivery.
Speaker 1: Her delivery.
Speaker 3: Yes, I watched it a few times.
Speaker 1: Chokes. She landed those jokes so perfectly.
Speaker 4: By the way.
Speaker 2: Way, So I got to the Wind Las Vegas a
Speaker 2: couple of days early before we did this, and I
Speaker 2: was sitting in the bar and this woman comes up.
Speaker 1: First.
Speaker 2: I was like, we're just car She was in this
Speaker 2: like matching set Blencia, yes, and like a beautiful woman
Speaker 2: and I and I see her from far away, and
Speaker 2: she sits down sort of like close to me, and
Speaker 2: I can't really see her face, and then these two
Speaker 2: people come up and start talking to her and I
Speaker 2: hear her voice, and then I start texting Jenna and
Speaker 2: I'm like, I think Nini is sitting next to me,
Speaker 2: like I haven't seen her face yet, but I know
Speaker 2: that voice because we're watching these episodes right now, and
Speaker 2: all I hear is her illing Cord about his big lips.
Speaker 1: Oh, such a good delivery.
Speaker 2: And the whole time. Then my friends come meet up
Speaker 2: with me, like should I go over there be like? Hey,
Speaker 2: she looked at me for a second and I did
Speaker 2: this super awkward thing of like smiling to be like,
Speaker 2: and she stared at me and just like turned away
Speaker 2: because she was having a thought and didn't recognize a
Speaker 2: lot of us people recognize her, and they're taking photos
Speaker 2: with therm like okay, it was her, yes, And then
Speaker 2: it was obviously.
Speaker 1: I would have you would have. I couldn't believe that
Speaker 1: she was here.
Speaker 3: Why we're doing these This is very magical, as are possible.
Speaker 1: Face truly, so yes, Nini isless really really so so good.
Speaker 1: I get it now, I get it well Sue. Sue's
Speaker 1: trying to have a baby. Guys. I don't know what
Speaker 1: else to say about it.
Speaker 3: I don't know what I liked about it is that
Speaker 3: the episode made me cry and to almost cry. Actually
Speaker 3: I won't lie. I almost cried in two spots.
Speaker 1: And it was.
Speaker 3: Just like the way that she flashed you of vulnerability
Speaker 3: in this episode. You know, there was this moment where
Speaker 3: she takes takes off her glasses and I think Samuel
Speaker 3: said it. She says a lie, like I can do anything.
Speaker 3: And because she really gets beat up for her desire
Speaker 3: to have a baby, you know, she really everyone comes
Speaker 3: at her. Yeah and yeah, so I just I really
Speaker 3: thought it really showcase as Jane, just like she gets
Speaker 3: all this like crazy storyline where she's the villain. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and then like literally your heart strains are just cut
Speaker 3: in half. Like this is going to sound so weird.
Speaker 3: It's very Malwana. You ever watch Moana's my favorite Disney movie,
Speaker 3: and I love that there are no just straight evil
Speaker 3: characters in Moana. You always get to see this like
Speaker 3: heart in the center of of you know that uh
Speaker 3: the crab for example, he's so lonely, he hat his grandma,
Speaker 3: but you like feel for him, even at the end.
Speaker 1: The Kiti, you know, is just somebody's still her heart.
Speaker 3: I think, Jane, really it's a good point, really cry
Speaker 3: that it's very and she doesn't compare.
Speaker 2: So we were talking before the show started, and you
Speaker 2: were saying, like, what's so little?
Speaker 3: It's so subtle or a beat or just like like
Speaker 3: a like a look of the eye to one side
Speaker 3: and then back again where she like takes off her
Speaker 3: armor and then puts it back on, and you're like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, you know she has feelings.
Speaker 1: This is insane. It's great brilliant, brilliant writing.
Speaker 2: And reliant acting, Like you'd be brilliant enough just to
Speaker 2: be able to do the straight sort of crazy soue
Speaker 2: character like yes, all the awards, but then to be
Speaker 2: able to a couple of times a season do that
Speaker 2: with a look or a beat like you said, and
Speaker 2: breaks your hearts.
Speaker 1: Your heart breaks your heart, Jane Lynch, Jane Lynch for you, unbelievable.
Speaker 1: There's also another thing going on with Mercedes and Sam.
Speaker 1: I love Why are they so good?
Speaker 2: It's in real life also, you would never I would
Speaker 2: not think that that would make sense together, but on screen, yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty good at picking up chemistry. I would say,
Speaker 3: real life chemistry, not romantic at all.
Speaker 1: Nothing. I would never when I watched it, I was
Speaker 1: shipping them. I wanted more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was good for them because totally I think
Speaker 2: any Yeah, they are sort of like the extremes of
Speaker 2: like the group in that way. Yes, like the rest
Speaker 2: of us at all in between are all obsessed romantically
Speaker 2: with each other and like physically, and those two not
Speaker 2: so much.
Speaker 1: But you put them for them, but it doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like it from the outside, right.
Speaker 3: Right, they come on, They're like, actually, we are in love.
Speaker 1: I imagine, and and so they go to Emma for help,
Speaker 1: and they they she suggests that they don't speak to
Speaker 1: each other for a full week, but also her pamphlets.
Speaker 1: Why are Emma's pamphlets. I'm glad that they're addressing the
Speaker 1: pamphlets now, yes, they're they're talking about Emma caring so
Speaker 1: deeply about Creed hating the pamphlets because at first it
Speaker 1: just feels like a thing that you know, what a
Speaker 1: great prop master you have, or Ian who wrote all
Speaker 1: those really great weird titles. But then to have Emma
Speaker 1: like care so deeply about them and for will to
Speaker 1: like shit on them. It's actually like it worked really
Speaker 1: really well. But she Emma decides to. She says, why
Speaker 1: don't you guys spend a week away and see how
Speaker 1: you feel? And when they when that bell rings, when
Speaker 1: they see each other. I cried? Why did I cry?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's really sweet, it's really really sweet. I think you cried.
Speaker 3: I think you cried because how many times in life
Speaker 3: have you wanted something with someone? And whether it be
Speaker 3: friendship or romance or you know, whatever it is, there's
Speaker 3: a feeling and there are too many reasons not to.
Speaker 1: It's heartbreaking.
Speaker 3: It's heartbreaking to look at somebody and be see what's
Speaker 3: possible but not be able, and not be and know
Speaker 3: that you're never gonna act on it, you know.
Speaker 1: I think that's what came up for me.
Speaker 2: And I also that combined with seeing like your friends
Speaker 2: do this thing, Like I was also so.
Speaker 1: Proud of them.
Speaker 2: They're so good at it because they displayed everything you
Speaker 2: just said, and like that's hard to do, and it
Speaker 2: was a really any.
Speaker 1: Cord really pulled, pulled out the guns, the big gun.
Speaker 1: I'll just wait till next episode and get out of here.
Speaker 3: I'm always so impressed by him because because he doesn't
Speaker 3: come across like he's able to do that.
Speaker 1: No, he is.
Speaker 3: He's just like I don't know, I'm just scored, like
Speaker 3: playing the guitar and like I'll make you laugh.
Speaker 2: And that's like his down place ability.
Speaker 1: He's disarming. Yes, that's right, he's.
Speaker 2: And he does care about it.
Speaker 3: It doesn't like he's reminds me of how uh, how
Speaker 3: much he took care of back up, like when she was.
Speaker 1: The most nursuring and actually wildly nurturing. Like surprisingly so
Speaker 1: when he would be around like Bear or around Emma, No,
Speaker 1: anytime he's around them, he is a dog and baby whisperer.
Speaker 1: It is the weirdest thing. Bear would just like sleep
Speaker 1: in his arms and I'd be like, he is never
Speaker 1: this colmon And like Emma, he like loves being around kids.
Speaker 1: He comes from a big family, and it makes sense.
Speaker 1: He is just so unassuming in all of these ways.
Speaker 1: He's very layered and like on the surface that is
Speaker 1: not the cord you get in your first, I cor
Speaker 1: second or your five hundred and sixtieth, but really getting
Speaker 1: to the core of cord when you know him, like
Speaker 1: to the core of cord, you should suggest the book
Speaker 1: or album or podcast to the core of Cord. But
Speaker 1: I yeah, I'm I'm a fan. I also am just
Speaker 1: props to Paris for making this episode work and giving
Speaker 1: this episode heart and the two of them, the way
Speaker 1: he cut it, the way that he he directed them,
Speaker 1: I just thought was really beautiful. So mhmm.
Speaker 2: There's also Rachel and Finn. Yes, this I feel like
Speaker 2: this is the new Quinn and the Baby. So Vanessa, yes,
Speaker 2: tell me Quinn and Puck. And now I forgot a name,
Speaker 2: but Adina what's her character name?
Speaker 1: Shelby? There we go.
Speaker 2: I'm a co host of a Glee rewatch podcast.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't know it. No. For me, we sort of.
Speaker 2: Over that story because it dragged on for so long
Speaker 2: and it just felted with the and now this whole
Speaker 2: proposal thing feels like a bit in an episode is
Speaker 2: one thing, and then to start like committing to.
Speaker 1: It feels so uncomfortable as a viewer.
Speaker 2: For me, at least, I've been like, why is this happening?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: I think we the characters do a lot of weird,
Speaker 2: high schooly, rash, irrational things, and I feel like this
Speaker 2: is justifiable and that way where this is the longest
Speaker 2: standing relationship in the entire show A shippers, and the debate
Speaker 2: about what's going to happen post graduation is Rachel going
Speaker 2: to New York, Finn doesn't nobody wants to do with
Speaker 2: his life, and so I feel like it makes sense.
Speaker 2: It just and I guess when I say like I'm uncomfortable,
Speaker 2: that's not to say don't do it. It's like it's
Speaker 2: another like a weird piece of drama, but it feels
Speaker 2: it also feels weird that it happened. And then they didn't.
Speaker 1: Address it for like a hot minute, and.
Speaker 2: Because it doesn't look like there's no moment of we're
Speaker 2: not going to tell anybody, like a big secret meeting,
Speaker 2: they just don't address it. And then it comes up
Speaker 2: finally in the scene where they're like all in bed
Speaker 2: and she reveals it. Yes, And also it's like, you
Speaker 2: know nobody can keep a secret. Well, we know it's
Speaker 2: going to come out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually don't get weird about this storyline until
Speaker 1: next episode. I think that's probably what I'm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so I can't wait till the next episode
Speaker 3: of the podcast I find out what the.
Speaker 1: Weird thing that's right? Very good Vanessa. Yes, so we will. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll unpack that more because there's like when when adults
Speaker 1: get involved, that's when it gets weird to me.
Speaker 3: I can just tell you that the vibe in this
Speaker 3: room has changed significantly when this this topic of this
Speaker 3: storyline came up just as the as the vibe check
Speaker 3: for the room. It was like, we like went into
Speaker 3: two floors below this floor and I started feeling this
Speaker 3: weird twisty sensation inside, so like it like it feels
Speaker 3: like a shark is lurking. Well, it's twist it. Okay,
Speaker 3: that's the next episode. I just wanted everyone to know
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 2: Want to talk about Naya.
Speaker 1: I'd love to all the time because, oh please, let's
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 2: She in this episode her usual it's just like.
Speaker 1: So good.
Speaker 2: Besides the fact, yes, it's very I love that Sentana's
Speaker 2: calling out Will and all this shit. However, I don't
Speaker 2: know what student in high school.
Speaker 1: I was thinking it was like a little out of line,
Speaker 1: but okay, like we're.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fine, but I would like I would have
Speaker 2: liked the whole episode which just her and Rickey Marton
Speaker 2: performing songs together because they talk about chemistry. One oh,
Speaker 2: they're both so talented. I was like, can this number
Speaker 2: just go on for the next twenty to thirty minute.
Speaker 2: It's the one that feels it felt the most appropriate. Yes,
Speaker 2: even though it also was not appropriate. No, no, you're right,
Speaker 2: but it felt appropriate. And when that's all that matters
Speaker 2: mean to me, I was like, yes, I was talking about,
Speaker 2: you know, music sung in Spanish and choose a Madonna.
Speaker 1: Song, right right, Okay, good point, keep point taking right.
Speaker 2: But however, the number was in there and they showed up.
Speaker 1: Oh, they showed up. Rating was good. Yeah, romans was good.
Speaker 1: Give it to me. So we do tarty takes, fanessa okay,
Speaker 1: and this is where we give our takes of different categories,
Speaker 1: and so each category will have its moment and you
Speaker 1: can chime in. You can give your strong opinion, not
Speaker 1: so strong opinion, so best cringe moment of the episode.
Speaker 1: And that could be the whole thing that's hard in
Speaker 1: this one. I really think the first one that came
Speaker 1: up for me was the first scene of Glacu Karacha.
Speaker 3: I think that the one where the actress says that
Speaker 3: she she's in the class to tell her maid not
Speaker 3: to the night of the bathroom at her house and
Speaker 3: then she wins the Grassius Award and then doesn't say
Speaker 3: word Grassius, but does say that now her mate.
Speaker 1: Is going to the bathroom.
Speaker 3: Before she I was like, that doesn't feel funny or
Speaker 3: good to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, moment, oh.
Speaker 3: Great, Wow, I didn't know, no, no, it was it
Speaker 3: was absolutely I'm saying it's fantastic. But I like when
Speaker 3: people I guess I like to be agree with Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's weird, and will unpack that later as I tell you,
Speaker 3: don't do anything.
Speaker 1: For validation best dance move. I think the log rule,
Speaker 1: Hey it obviously.
Speaker 3: I really was proud that I did it. I didn't
Speaker 3: break anything. I also did push ups in that too impressive.
Speaker 3: Oh and Jen's wanted me to say this. I was
Speaker 3: on the prices right as a contestant and in the
Speaker 3: last few years, like I don't even recently. That's what
Speaker 3: I'm trying to say. The Drew Carey price is right.
Speaker 3: And I did do push ups and I don't know why,
Speaker 3: Like it was like one of those moments where I
Speaker 3: think I was just on the edge of blacking out
Speaker 3: out of joy and disbelief that this was happening to me.
Speaker 3: When they called me up to stage because I didn't know.
Speaker 3: You know, it's like one of those things like everyone's like,
Speaker 3: of course, Vanessa, you went on the prices, right, and
Speaker 3: they call you you're you're a giant Neon signed for
Speaker 3: put me on camera.
Speaker 1: But you know, inside, I don't believe that about myself.
Speaker 3: And so when I was watching this episode and I
Speaker 3: saw that me do the push up thing, I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: maybe that's my thing. Like you, there's people always knew
Speaker 3: how Ashley Simson did the jig which you go uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: There's always some you have, like a core that happens
Speaker 3: that you do. I think that's mine, just like do
Speaker 3: do push ups? I go for those arms, get.
Speaker 2: Those Just watching this episode, watching that number and picking
Speaker 2: someone to watch throughout the entire thing because everyone's doing wild.
Speaker 4: Yes, it was a real for all things perform rockout
Speaker 4: best performance, but best song, Sorry, yeah, it's just sure there, okay,
Speaker 4: best performance.
Speaker 1: By a prop the pamphlets. I'm sorry. I didn't mean
Speaker 1: to step on you, No, I was.
Speaker 3: I was just remarking. I didn't know that that question
Speaker 3: was coming up. The best performance by a prop is
Speaker 3: that when you do every episode? Wow, that's just I
Speaker 3: love that you know, as an only child, I have
Speaker 3: a lot of relationship with things. Yeah, and I feel
Speaker 3: sometimes a tiny minture. I have a lot of things. Puppets, yes,
Speaker 3: so oh my finger puppets.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. So that question really checked me.
Speaker 3: It took me because it felt like a little part
Speaker 3: of me was being seen, Like, of course, what was
Speaker 3: the best prop's performance problem? That's something I would have written.
Speaker 3: The pamphlets were great. I also think uh Sue was
Speaker 3: cleaning her trophies with the Q tip, and I felt
Speaker 3: like the trophies really yeah, we're saying something about her character,
Speaker 3: you know, adding to the scene.
Speaker 1: We haven't done the trophies yet. That's a good one.
Speaker 2: I also think Roz's metal is always a standout because like,
Speaker 2: what is she without it?
Speaker 1: Right? All that?
Speaker 3: That's a great that's a great one, Kevin, that's a
Speaker 3: good point, great question, and the best line is, oh.
Speaker 1: Lord, I mean we have some quotes here, Okay, great,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look Santana.
Speaker 2: You went from laku karacha to bullfighting to a bull
Speaker 2: fighting mariachi. Also, my god, that number, why don't you
Speaker 2: just dress up as a taco bell chiha embark the
Speaker 2: theme songatory they explore you don't even know enough to
Speaker 2: be embarrassed about these stereotypes that you're perpetuating. And I
Speaker 2: feel like the whole episode was leading to that, like
Speaker 2: that's the thesis of it. However, like do you need it?
Speaker 2: It was like six times of like beating it in
Speaker 2: of likes nothing.
Speaker 1: I don't know that line is great, though, I love
Speaker 1: that line. Ross had some good ones.
Speaker 3: Uh, what you need to do is start praying that
Speaker 3: you give birth to a child that likes to eat sand,
Speaker 3: because that's all that's coming out of those old, wrinkly boobs.
Speaker 3: I was I don't know how I was shocked. I
Speaker 3: guess I was gasp worthy.
Speaker 1: Kurt had a good one. Ladies. I appreciate you spending
Speaker 1: time with me while Blaine recovers, but why are you
Speaker 1: being so weird and serious? Our periods don't come until
Speaker 1: the end of Oh that was great, very good, very good.
Speaker 1: Normally I like learning.
Speaker 3: I like learning that those characters were saying, we grade
Speaker 3: the performances normally.
Speaker 1: Wow, you guys really into the threw me into the.
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I have a great performance moment Heather dancing
Speaker 3: as the bull, Oh so good, so great. She really
Speaker 3: embodied that bull she did, Harry, Yeah, come on, physicality.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know that we should rate these numbers. No,
Speaker 1: they all sort of get like a two thumbs down. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that's that's where we're after. Okay, cool, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's been great to be on your show.
Speaker 2: Performance MVP.
Speaker 1: Yes, performance MVP.
Speaker 2: I mean honestly knowing his schedule and showing up and
Speaker 2: knocking out of the park.
Speaker 1: I'd say, Ricky Martin gets the MVP. Absolutely the schedule,
Speaker 1: but knowing that as well.
Speaker 3: You did all of that in three days, and that's crazy,
Speaker 3: it's wild, that's actually wild.
Speaker 1: Lot. You should actually get a real medal. He's fine, Okay,
Speaker 1: should we found on TikTok.
Speaker 2: I don't know how many people tagged me in this,
Speaker 2: especially on Twitter and on on TikTok personally, Jen and
Speaker 2: I got tagged so many times because we're back with
Speaker 2: another greatest hit from demy de Vito, who honestly star
Speaker 2: an icon of our time, and this is if there
Speaker 2: was a Taylor Swift episode of Glee acting all the parts,
Speaker 2: and it's.
Speaker 1: Surreal, unreal. That is.
Speaker 2: I appreciate everyone tagging, and I understand the fervor. Thanks
Speaker 2: in the persistence because that deserves all the awards, all
Speaker 2: the attention.
Speaker 1: You can take the trophy back from Rickeyan. Well, he'll
Speaker 1: understand the MVP of this episode. Yes, well, thank you
Speaker 1: so much Vanessa for joining us from the episode. You guys,
Speaker 1: we have another episode of Vanessa next week. You're welcome, right, Well,
Speaker 1: that's what you really.
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