WEBVTT - Livin' La Vida Loca ("The Spanish Teacher" S3 EP12) 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:04.439 And That's what you really missed with Jenna. 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:07.119 And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:12.440 Welcome to and That's what you really miss podcasts. A 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:16.600 very special episode. We are broadcasting from Blue Wires Studios 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:20.680 at WIN Las Vegas with our very special friend Vanessa Lenji. 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:21.720 Happy to be here. 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:23.800 Let me tell you, if we can keep it together 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:26.720 just long enough to get through this episode. 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:29.479 I will be shocked. I don't know. This is a 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:33.120 there's a lot, and this is a lot. Our energy 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:35.440 is a lot. This episode is a lot. We're just 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:36.560 we're a lot. 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:39.000 We're well into our residency at the Wind Las Vegas, 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:43.000 whether the Win Las Vegas knows it or not. We've 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:46.160 already requested a standing desk for Jenna next episode. 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:49.040 And the sitting desk for Kevin. Any sleeping desk for Vanessa. Yes, 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:53.760 so just a tilted desk Hollywood type sez right. 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:57.240 No no requests, just a small writer of a ten 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:01.720 page writer. Welcome back, Vanessa, Thank you. 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:02.920 She switched outfits. 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:08.240 We This window outfit is something very special. She's a 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:11.600 bridge house. 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:13.360 And she's sitting in the window. So we're at the 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:16.000 wynd Hotel in Las Vegas and there's a window I 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:17.640 feel like we're in a zoo, but we get to 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:20.000 watch like they can't comment on us, we can comment 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:21.920 on them. This is great. This is how I want 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:23.000 to live my life all the time. 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:25.000 Great because we live here now, yeah, this is it. 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:28.680 I would live here. Can we squat here? No, Kevin, 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:31.440 you can't announce that you're squatting and then squat. You 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:35.120 got to just squat waters right. I actually didn't know 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:38.279 what squatting was until christ And Channel episode of Home 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:39.720 and when she was a squatter? 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:43.280 Oh yeah, in the show. Do you remember Jenna lived 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:45.319 with me, stayed with me for a little bit like 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:47.280 one piled season, and there was a house across the 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:48.080 street and they were. 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:51.360 They were squatting in the house, squatters for years with 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:53.840 the birds. Yes, there were the squatters. 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:55.040 They had birds. 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:57.680 Oh my gosh, that's. 0:01:57.560 --> 0:01:58.160 A fun fact. 0:01:58.360 --> 0:01:59.040 I'd love to know. 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:02.760 When and Jenna was staying with me, we'd put each 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:04.960 other on tape for auditions and things, and Jenna had 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:07.640 a motto that she'd repeat for herself and for me, Jenna, 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:08.240 what was it. 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:15.120 Ww VLD What would Vanessa Lengs do? And you know 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:17.120 what that was? For every audition I would go in, 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:21.440 I'd wear a different colored lipstick. I would give them 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:24.920 the riskiest version of that character, and i would just 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:27.280 do something different because we always said that you were 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:29.400 one of a kind, and that's why you booked so much, 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:32.320 because there's only one Vanessa out there, whereas like, you know, 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:34.239 these cookie cutter people come in me trying to be 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:36.639 a cookie cutter thing coming in and I'm like, that's 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:40.200 not how you book jobs. You you just emanate Vanessa. 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:44.359 Ngis I just do something weirder than they were expecting you. 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:48.000 To do the thing you actually want to do, that's 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:50.200 fair and not feel bad about it. Yeah, you're scared 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:50.440 of it. 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:54.720 You're like unapologetically you or whatever it was at the 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:57.840 time in your life that you were feeling weird or different, 0:02:57.960 --> 0:02:59.720 it was it was working. 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:03.799 Is working, bring yourself pleasure and then they will feel that. 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:05.679 I know we have a recap to do, but I 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:11.880 have a question about that, because what when you get 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:15.960 an audition or something, what is your approach to her secrets? 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:17.639 I'll give you all this. 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:22.519 I'm just because like watching you act is like watching 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:28.040 Slean Beyonce whoa or coming across the Daltons in a 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:31.760 pod in the ocean because it's it's like so juicy, 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:34.200 Like I feel like you read a page and you 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:38.080 see something so much more than I ever could, Like 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:40.080 you see all the subtext? Do you see all that 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:42.280 this character could be, even if it's just a word. 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:45.080 What is that process like for you? 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:46.680 Okay, this is great. 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:50.360 I think I was an only child and I was 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:53.880 alone a lot, so my fantasy land is well practiced. 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:55.000 We still have access to that. 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:56.480 I still have access to that. 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:59.200 I was also acting since I was five or six 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:01.200 years old, so I don't think I ever got a 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:04.280 chance to use access, which is a whole other story. 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:09.640 Uh No, I chose this. I chose this career. I 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:12.240 chose this career. I chose, I chose this career. I 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:14.560 choose this career. 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:17.520 I choose. Okay, So here's my here's my thing. 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:21.040 I read it and I imagine it, and I read 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:23.120 it again and again again again and again again. I read 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:26.200 it so many times until it kind of paints itself. 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:29.480 So I know what the walls look like in the room, 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:30.880 and I know what I'm wearing, and then you know, 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:33.160 there's like all these details that come the more you 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:34.400 read it, the more you read it, the more you 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.440 read it, there's more details, and I leave the details. 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:40.880 And and then I tell myself, if I'm not going 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:45.200 to have fun, if I'm not going to enjoy myself 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:47.560 going to this audition, then I shouldn't go. 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:49.120 By the way, I never not go. 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:51.880 So that's a weird rule I have with myself because 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:55.520 I also I should turn down more auditions, but I 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:57.360 can't because I think, and I SI, you're so lucky 0:04:57.360 --> 0:05:00.479 to have this opportunity. If you say no, that's like, yeah, 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:02.840 it's like punching a gift horse in the mouth. What's 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:05.279 the expression that, I don't think you punch them? But 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:08.279 don't take that look it up. You do something with 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:10.000 a gift horse, which is weird. 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:11.120 I don't know. 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:12.080 I need that explained. 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:14.680 But whatever it is, I don't want to do it 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:15.920 when it comes to auditions. 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:17.880 The poor horse. Okay. The thing is, don't look a 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:20.039 gift horse in the mouth. And it means that you 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:22.560 shouldn't criticize a gift, even if you don't like it 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:24.960 very much. A gift horse, in other words, is a gift. 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:28.080 Yeah, And so I see auditions as a gift because 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:29.800 a lot of people want to do what we do right, 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:31.880 and a lot of people don't get to. So every 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:34.039 time I have one, I think, okay, I have to, 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:37.200 you know, see this as the gift. And then if 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:39.159 I'm going to go, which I am going to go, 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:44.240 I better love it. This is good advice for all children. 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:50.240 So HI, enjoy everything you do, don't do it? 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:53.800 Yeah? So then so then like how do I how 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:54.960 do I how do I love this? 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:55.159 Like? 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:57.119 How do I love this? How do I have fun here? 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:02.440 And usually that'll involve some kind of weird costume thing 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:05.280 that delights me. I love I think it's funny, or 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:08.560 a lot of the times it's a oh I could 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:12.520 do this weird nuanced reference from the sound of music 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:14.360 that no one will ever pick up on, but I 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:15.559 will know that it's a shout. 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:17.320 So I'll do that. 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:21.240 I'll mix in things that I love that I secretly 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:24.839 just obsessively love. Let's see what else do I do 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:29.719 I really love that? I also, all I used to 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:32.640 do this one was in person auditions. I think of 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:37.880 everything in terms of relationship, so like, of course we 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:41.159 have an amazing relationship. And when I think back to 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:44.240 even meeting and us getting to know each other, naturally, 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:48.440 the three of us kind of just congealed, and we 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:50.960 had good vibes between three of us. So when I 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.720 go into an audition, I think of that, Like, let's 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:58.040 say Sam's here and you're casting for us. I would 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:01.360 walk into that room and less focused on the audition 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:04.240 and more about what relationship I'm building with you, because 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:07.640 we're actually co creating whatever, even if we don't even 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:10.120 if don't get the job, we're co creating what happens 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:12.680 in the room. So I'm constantly thinking about that. 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:16.160 And then she's so good, you guys. 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.360 And then then wait, and then there's also this thing 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:21.000 called PAD, which is post audition depression. 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:22.720 It happens every single. 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:24.880 Time I go to me and you just have to 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:27.840 have room for a pad and you have to take 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:30.440 really like you have to just be like okay, and 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:31.960 then you go down and you're. 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:33.680 Like that sucked. I suck. 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.840 Everything sucks. I should never. I'm never working again. I 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:39.480 should never. I shouldn't work at the post office. Nothing 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:42.679 against post office work, because that's great too, but like whatever, 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:45.120 I should just not be, you know, in front of 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:47.200 a camera ever again. And so I just let let 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:50.560 myself have that. So that so that here's what that does. 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:53.120 It's like all the criticism that could happen, or all 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.080 the anxiety that could happen before I walk into the 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:58.680 room with Sam or with whoever, my whatever, that part 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:01.440 of me that self critic I'm like, you're going to 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:02.800 get your moments right. 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:06.600 You can, you can beat me up, you can just 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:07.880 hold I'm going to give you. 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:10.840 That nice pad afterwards, or you're going to get to 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:14.200 shit talk me to your heart's content, but not here, 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:16.680 because you know, if we don't go into that room 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:19.200 thinking that we're going to get the job, there's no 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:20.320 way we're going to get the job. 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:22.360 You're totally right, I mean because I've been in that 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:24.640 room several times being like this isn't for me. 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:27.320 That's what you should just get. That's what you get. 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:30.640 And you know it's not a science, but at least 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:32.480 when you look back at your life, you're like, I 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:33.319 had a good time. 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:34.880 Yeah, that's the biggest thing. 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:35.320 I think. 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:38.280 Once you I had to adjust myself being like, let 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:40.120 me just enjoy this because maybe the only opportunity to 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:41.360 have to play this character. 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.599 Isn't here, so let me just enjoy it. 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:46.920 I also like how you like analyze a script where 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:49.599 like you're seeing everything, so like all the work is 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:51.400 done before you go into the room or put yourself 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:53.880 on tape, because you already know how you as a 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:56.320 character exists in that world, so you don't worry about it. 0:08:56.400 --> 0:09:01.040 And then I'd say, try to try to not practice 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:03.040 how you're going to say something as much as possible, 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:06.080 because I used to get caught up on that, like 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:10.120 on how it should sound coming out of my mouth, and. 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:11.520 When I see that. 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:15.440 Thinking about the story you told me on the plane 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:20.480 on the way here about dated running. He doesn't listen 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.520 to these podcast lines with you and you guys, I 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:23.560 love him such a sweetie. 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.400 What was I saying? I don't know. Oh, I was saying, no. 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:29.720 Getting too stuck in how you like? 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:31.080 Yeah, because when. 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:33.720 You're missing the relationship, right, yeah, you're missing playing off 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:34.360 another person. 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:37.079 You created the world and you know who the character is. 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:40.320 Your instinct of that character when you go in there 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:43.160 is already given. So if you're so focused on the lines, 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:45.520 you haven't thought and you haven't thought about the world, 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:47.240 it's probably a good thing because then you at least 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:48.960 say the lines in some way that you wanted to. 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:51.840 But if you've created the world, you just trust the 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:54.280 way your instincts are going to give or what they're 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:54.760 going to say. 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:58.720 Yeah, and knowing that even the parts that you probably 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.480 didn't plan probably the best parts. 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:03.760 And that makes it fun because you're discovering it in 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:07.040 there with the person you now built this relationship with exactly. 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:08.520 And then they feel like a genius, right because then 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:11.600 they contributed. Yes, Okay, wow, thank you for that. Thank 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:14.840 you for sharing that, because again, what would Vanessa and 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:17.120 she just do? Now, that's what she would do. That's 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:18.680 that's what you really missed. Kids. 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:21.480 Listen, you can go to NYU for Forum kidding. 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:35.320 This is season three, episode twelve, The Spanish Teacher, and 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:38.280 this air on February seventh, twenty twelve. 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.439 What was going on in the world Kevin set Fire 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:43.040 to the Rain by Adell was a number one song 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.640 set Fire to This episode was also. 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:48.959 A part of this Yeah, very good Chronicle was a 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:49.600 number one movie. 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:50.920 That movie was great. 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:54.960 Actually I didn't see it, but another one I haven't 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:56.280 launched Michael B. 0:10:56.360 --> 0:11:01.280 Jordan's career. Also wasn't Dane Dehan and that movie I 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:03.720 think I don't know. I could be like I didn't 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:06.120 tell you he was in it. Yeah, that movie was 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:08.400 a gigantic like launching pad for. 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:10.000 It's quite a few movies that we've watched that have 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:12.880 been number one that we haven't seen. It convinced. 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:17.280 Chronicle was great. Glean news this week afterwards he's ended 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:19.199 in the Big Michael episode. 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:24.360 It was a quiet week, nothing happened. So this episode, 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:27.320 why do you guys sound so sad? 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:29.280 Okay, Well, yeah, let me know. 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:30.120 You watched it. 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:34.040 I did. It was we were in it. Jenna, you 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:36.280 guys were both in it. What were you doing this week? 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:40.120 Jenna's head had been removed from her body. I had 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:44.040 unhinged my jaw, it was on the ground. My feet 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.079 were removed from my body as well. This is your 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:51.680 PTOM paid time off. See you later. I was wondering 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:52.000 what I was. 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:54.520 Yeah, when they showed me which episodes we're doing and 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.240 said Jenna wasn't in it, I was like, how honest 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:00.839 do you guys get on this podcast, because let's get honest. 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:02.959 I just felt like they were I mean, I'm glad 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:05.400 that it was paid time off, but I just didn't 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:07.640 agree with why how they treated you. 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:11.400 Thank you, thank you. Yeah, it's a tough. It was 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:13.560 a tough time to be away. It was actually strange 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:16.920 to be away, not on my terms. It wasn't like 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.120 they were like, you know, you have to be away, 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:22.079 but they it was kind of like that. It was 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.040 a nice It was actually a nice break, but it 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.360 also was like, had I chosen to take it off 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:29.199 so it would have felt better, Yeah, did you think 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:29.760 it was off? 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:30.679 Did you go somewhere? 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:31.160 No? 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:36.280 I stayed home. I also didn't want them to be like, well, 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:39.120 I come back and they're like, well, you went to Hawaii? 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:42.440 Do you know what I mean? Like I couldn't win anyway. Yeah, 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:44.160 that's how I saw it too. I was like, there's 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:47.120 not getting a chance to win, So you know, I 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:49.960 just took the time off. I did some reflecting, and 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.080 in a few episodes, I'm gonna get a really fucking 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:56.760 great episode Tina gets to be Rachel Berry. Maybe that's 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.199 also a metaphor for what was happening at the time. 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:00.040 I don't know. 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:07.320 Home oh man. Anyway, I actually am kind of grateful 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:09.600 so I have not been in this episode. After watching it, 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:15.000 I missed you all for sure, but I really I'm 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:17.240 I'm my jaw was on the ground when I watched 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:19.040 this the other night. Had you seen this episode before. 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:22.600 I don't think so, no that makes sense. I also like, yeah, 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:25.200 like it's like it doesn't bring back good memories. So 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:27.040 I'm not sure that I was like sitting down to 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:30.440 watch this. Yeah, I don't imagine, you know, yeah, like 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:34.880 a smile and face on. This was directed by Paris Barclay. 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:37.640 Also God blessom we love Paris like had to do this, 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:40.280 Oh no, wonder why I did fun dance things. Paris 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:41.720 always let me do fun. 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.400 Dancing him and Eric him and Eric always they were like, 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:45.320 we'll let you. 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:48.160 Behind the spirder halfway through because like who directed this? 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:49.600 Because we were all on one. 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:50.480 Yeah, it was. 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:53.199 Doing things that we were like. Amber started one of 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:55.200 the musical numbers like sitting up. I was like, that 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:56.200 is weird. 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:58.720 I know on this side the thing, I was so weird. 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:02.280 But I will say, uh, Paris has come on the 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:06.040 podcast great and he calls some of these things auchi's 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:09.679 oh and so I would call this whole episode a 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:15.600 big old Auchi got through it. He did get through it, Okay, 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:17.360 So this was what we're going to get into this 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.720 or not get into it and kind of talk around it. 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.760 This is directed by Paris we love Paris. This was 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:28.000 written technically by Ian Brennan and it was a very 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:30.360 special guest star, Ricky Martin. Are you kidding? I was said, 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:31.040 I missed Ricky. 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:33.880 Well, Vanessa and I have shared something in common. 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:40.440 Tell Ricky Martin was both Kevin and my first concert. 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:43.760 Wow, not the same place I was in Montreal. 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:48.880 I was Dallas and Ricky came out on that car. Yeah, 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:53.160 and it was the loudest I had never heard my 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:55.840 ears hurt so much. I didn't know concerts were like 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:58.320 that either. And they didn't have parents who cared enough 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:00.640 to put your I mean I wasn't that young. 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:04.920 Wait a second, I don't think I went with my parents. 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:07.240 Shoot, I was my mom. 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:10.360 Okay, there you go. We didn't get headphones, is what 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:10.640 I mean? 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:13.560 Those like noise canceling my ears. 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:14.760 We're definitely damned. 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:18.080 I just didn't know. It was like I had been 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:21.400 living in a cave my whole life. And then I 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:23.800 stepped into that arena, and then he stepped out on 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:30.840 stage in those leather pants and sixteen thousand women started screaming. 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:35.360 Is that when you realized you were again? The moment 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:38.320 I don't think that was it was it before or after. 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:40.400 I don't think it was then. 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:43.480 What if it was. 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.880 I think it's the moment I realized I was gay, 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:52.480 And if you could have that same moment simultaneous, that's 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:54.120 why it was connected. 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:56.280 It definitely was something around it, though, because there were 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:58.680 rumors about him, and I remember hearing like my family 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:03.520 talk about it and like especially tuning into it, and 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:06.040 like if I wasn't concerned about it, I wouldn't have 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.320 been tuning into it, you know what I mean. I 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:09.600 don't think I realized why. 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:12.440 I would pick up on what's interesting to us and 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:14.000 we don't consciously maybe no. 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:15.440 And I think it was like, well, how do they 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:16.200 feel about it? 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:21.000 Sort of gauging the totally totally just do the gods 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:22.080 think this is good or bad? 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:26.640 Exact people are not. Okay, So you guys were Ricky 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:27.880 Ricky fans. 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:30.880 We're Ricky fans, and Kevin and I, you know, bonded 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:33.320 over the fact that was our first concert and then 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:34.560 was so exciting that he was there. 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:35.800 Can we tell him? 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:38.160 I'm sure we told him. I mean we were. 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:41.440 When I think back of this episode, it was everyone 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:44.520 was falling over each other to try to get closer 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:49.400 to him and tell him just like like offer adulation, 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:53.840 like just like can we okay first covered in sex? 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:56.200 I need to know. I need to tell me. So 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:59.440 everybody's a Ricky fan. He's gorgeous. You guys were big fans. 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:02.000 You went to the concert, Yeah, you know that was 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:07.120 your first concert. What was he like and who got 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.600 close to him? Like, because when Gwyneth came in, like 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:12.040 there was a handful of people that kind of like 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:15.320 got into her circle a little bit. She like allowed in, right, 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:17.720 she was very kind to everybody, but like there's a 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:21.400 few select people. So I'm I want to know what 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:24.720 Ricky was like and how that what that dynamic was 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:27.120 on SAT or did he kind of like step away? 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:34.280 And I don't remember him being as Gwynneth was like 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:38.399 down for everything. She like was hanging out one like 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:41.840 what's the hot goss like totally we were talking about 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:46.359 like current music. I don't my perspective. I was also 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:50.080 very intimidated by Gwyneth, but she sort of I don't 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:52.000 nip that in the bud pretty quickly as much as 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:56.000 she could right by being so approachable. Ricky Martin was 0:17:56.040 --> 0:18:00.359 not unapproachable, but I was also so intimidated, and I 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:03.959 think I needed him to sort of like break the 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:07.040 ice for me. Well, like I think I maybe. 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:09.320 Spoke to him like once or twice because I. 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:10.760 Was like sitting in the room just sort. 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:12.640 Of like I am shocked. 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:14.920 I don't think anybody got really close, and I think 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.639 he was. I think we were objectifying him, to be honest, 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:19.760 probably I think everyone was. 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:22.080 Just like yours. Well, he must be so used to 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:24.080 that too that he's like, who do I even allow 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:25.720 to like be near me? 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:26.800 Well, he was coming in? 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:30.800 When was where was he on his coming out? 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:34.399 He was yeah, But like the only real thing I 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:37.640 remember was watching him eat lunch in the choir room. 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:39.159