1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Hey listeners, Niminy here, host of Historical Records, get ready 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: to hear about a historical hero through hip hop. 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: Also, parents and teachers. 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 3: You can download a. 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: Free activity related to today's episode by visiting story pirates 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: dot com, slash Historical Records and. 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: Now onto the show. 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: After a few words for the grownups Historical. 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 3: Records, you are now listening to Historical. 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: To make history, you got to have struggle to make history. 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: You got to show poise. 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 4: Cannot be quiet loud as a riot to make history, 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 4: you gotta make some noise. 14 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 5: Hey listeners, leave from the story Pirates and executive producer 15 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 5: of Historical Records here. One of my favorite things about 16 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 5: hip hop is to re listen to songs so that 17 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 5: I can analyze and hear all of the lyrics. The 18 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 5: words can sometimes come pretty fast and furious, so re 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 5: listening and close listening is essential to really appreciating these 20 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 5: incredible artists and the songs that we are so proud of. Today, 21 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 5: we have for you our two songs from this season 22 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,639 Speaker 5: about New York City icons from the nineteen eighties, Keith 23 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 5: Herring and Willie Smith and guess. 24 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: What Keith and Willy even knew? 25 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 5: Each other in real life, it can be hard to 26 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 5: believe that in a city as big as New York 27 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 5: Is that two artists could meet and work together. But 28 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 5: on the other hand, I guess when you're as talented 29 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 5: as both Keith and Willy were, it was inevitable that 30 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 5: their paths would cross. Let's listen to our song about 31 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 5: Keith first. Some of the grown ups might recognize that 32 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 5: this song is kind of in homage to the Beastie Boys, 33 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 5: a group of iconic rappers also from New York City 34 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 5: in the nineteen eighties. And though maybe not everyone would 35 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 5: immediately associate Keith with the Beasties, they ran in the 36 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 5: same artistic circles in New York City and at the 37 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 5: same time, and they definitely knew and were inspired by 38 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 5: each other. And they're both super playful in their art. 39 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 5: And remember, Keith loved to listen to music when he 40 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 5: painted and drew. Music was super important to him. So 41 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 5: while you're listening to this song, I want you to 42 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 5: get out some paper and something to draw with. Then 43 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 5: draw as you're listening to the song, just like Keith 44 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 5: would have done. So if you need to, you can 45 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 5: press pause right now to go gather some art supplies 46 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 5: and then come. 47 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: Back and later. 48 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 5: If you want to follow along with the lyrics, which 49 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 5: I definitely recommend, you can find them at story pirates 50 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:56,119 Speaker 5: dot com slash historical Records. After this first track, I'll 51 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 5: be back to point out a couple things I love about. 52 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: Our song, Willie Smith. 53 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 5: Here's Keith Herring enjoy. 54 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: You your sitting nineteen eighty subway station. 55 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 2: Filled with babies and not like the real ones. The 56 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 2: diapers start the. 57 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: Figures that I grew out of joy carrying boarding red. 58 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: I like drawing, and I like sharing art with people. 59 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: Miss lay and see I say, I like drawing babies. 60 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: He tried art school did not complete me much. 61 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 3: Preferred hit how graffiti. 62 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: I wanted something real and something speedy, not for the risk, 63 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: but for the worm and art Larry and artrollary and 64 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: art just for art's sake, about play, art about being gay, 65 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: not for pay, art that I would give away one 66 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: day in the train station took some shock and begins creation, 67 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: no real plan and no design, just simple lines, frunk 68 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: from my high carrying board reading. I likedrawing, and I 69 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: like sharing art with people. Men and and did I say, 70 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: I like drawing. 71 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: Babies about his drawings. The folks were for Satin Island. 72 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: Shoot things to Flatfish Avenue. All the people like the 73 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,239 Speaker 1: way I made Ah, that was the trigger I got bigger. 74 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 4: Now there's some moving for him to consider. 75 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: Like now I'm big, I'm higher up for more fault 76 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: now that a pop I'm the art. 77 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 3: Off the Warhall. 78 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 4: I'm friends with him now and JOm Michelle Bakiat. 79 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: But wait, stop, there's no need to name job one 80 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: more though. If I can break my own code, I 81 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: collapse with Willie Smith's ex episode Callaber's collector. It's all 82 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: complimentary under. 83 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 3: Their breath, they say his arts elementary. 84 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: Haters, Hayden fake ers, facing What do I do? I 85 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: keep maz caring morning. I like drawing, and I like 86 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: sharing art with people men and lay And did I 87 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: say I like drawing? 88 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 3: B Yeah, maybe, he said, already is and Teller said, 89 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 3: al rady. 90 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: It just a few other creature so silly as spaceship shoot, 91 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: not nicking miles chilling up every h of a heart 92 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: or a butt that would fart form the prints of 93 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: a dog that would bark, and the pop bars. 94 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 2: Art has movement. 95 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: It's all about movements. Group of mutants I dropped my 96 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: amusements for. 97 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: School kids on the statue of Liberty. 98 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: One day, then the next I'm a libertine. 99 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 2: He's making history. I'm making up from. 100 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: Hate, but in a way to deliver me and the 101 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: viewer to a childlife fun. I dropped babies because we 102 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: both used. 103 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 3: To be One died when he was thirty one. 104 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: I dropped babies because we both used to be one. 105 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 4: Peeze carrying Vought in Redding. 106 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: I like drawing, and I like sharing art with peoples. 107 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: And did I say I like drawing babies? I keep 108 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: carrying born in Redding, But I liked drawing, and I 109 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: liked sharing art with people, men and ladies. And did 110 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: I mention I like drawing babies. 111 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: We'll be right back after a few words for the 112 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 2: grown ups. Hey, Lee, here again, let's listen to Willie Smith. Now. 113 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 5: One thing you're gonna hear a lot in this song 114 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 5: is the phrase my joy, which seems to me like 115 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 5: something else that Keith and Willie had in common. They 116 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 5: both sought out joy through their art. So I want 117 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 5: you to use your art materials again for this song 118 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 5: and do some more drawing while you listen. Maybe, like Willie, 119 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 5: you can even design and draw some clothes while you listen. 120 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 5: Will the clothes that you design and draw be the 121 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 5: kind that all kinds of people can wear, like willie'swear? 122 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 5: How do the vibes of the song influence what you draw? 123 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 5: And how are the drawings that you do to Willy's song. 124 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: Different from the drawings you did to Keith's song? Why? 125 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: Remember you can find the. 126 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 5: Lyric sheet by visiting story pirates dot com slash historical records. 127 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: Enough from me, enjoy the song. Here's Willie Smith. 128 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: When people even name Willie Smith, I want them to 129 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: think that this is. 130 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 2: A person who. 131 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 4: Cares enough about them that he's taking the time to 132 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,679 Speaker 4: design and create and think for them. Like all wellings 133 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 4: of America, I could tell you would say how I 134 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 4: was supposed to fail, but then I ended up sailing 135 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 4: with all the boats and whales. Before I was selling clothes, 136 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 4: I had hope for sale, and even at a discount. 137 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 3: It was so for real. 138 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 4: Grew up in Hilladel, had a little health, nope, a 139 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 4: lot of help. My mother and my father told me 140 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 4: to go for self. Got it to yourself, do your best, 141 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 4: get it gone and you can get coins. 142 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 3: But true freedom is the wealth. 143 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 4: Willie that's my name came in the game. 144 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 3: We'll get into all. 145 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 4: Of that, but for now, I'm saying I'm conveying my 146 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 4: joy struggle. My joy not different from so many other 147 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 4: black boys. And I knew there was a world that 148 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 4: was almost had a readership. But I had to learn 149 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 4: lessons that nobody could teach. Tablets full of design and 150 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 4: fabric colors. Your fashion is one thing, The style is another. 151 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: My joy, freedom to. 152 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: Love, imagine, brand new, but it's still blessing. 153 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 4: Yes, I made clothes. Yes, I love to sew. I 154 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 4: possessed the fashion that I ain't even know. I knew 155 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 4: I had to grow. And you know I loved Philly, 156 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 4: but New York City, Yeah, I knew I had to go. 157 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 4: My best decision him lines crafted with so much precision 158 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,599 Speaker 4: you could see the fishing. A few people mentioned that 159 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 4: it wasn't up to snuff, but eventually everybody was loving 160 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 4: my stuff. My mind went to another place to create 161 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 4: something live, The colors more vibrant, my own little island 162 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 4: where I could spend time on the shore, getting close 163 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 4: to the source. 164 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 2: And I'm smiling now. 165 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 4: Got a new clothing line. Yeah, it's finally out. Will it, wear, 166 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 4: get it is, get it dead everywhere I swear. I 167 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 4: think back to the famous line clothes don't make the 168 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 4: man unless you're wearing mind my joy. The scene is overdone. 169 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 4: It's supposed to be fun. But how they want to 170 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 4: say so, let's. 171 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 2: Go on give them so. 172 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 4: I walked the line from the harle of Renaissan city 173 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 4: de boys a richer now for the culture. No decoys, 174 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 4: street bustle and loud crowd, sweet noise. These are the 175 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 4: things I mean when I speak joy. In twenty five 176 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 4: nail off designs, I chose so you can chill or 177 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 4: if you want to profile and pose. And I don't 178 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 4: make clothes for the queen. I'm making for the people 179 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 4: on the street who way better limousine. I did it 180 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 4: for us, those kids on the front, stupid beautiful ladies 181 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 4: who need a cute new suits. You don't have to 182 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 4: be safe to have taste. Make it oversize, plus neon, 183 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 4: green and ad lace whatever. I lived my life with 184 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 4: no regrets. Being true to myself meant more than my success. 185 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 4: I never claimed to be the greatest or the best. 186 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 4: I just wanted you to be well dressed. And it's 187 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 4: my pleasure. 188 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 6: Joy stretch your arms out as far as you can, 189 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 6: God hands right there where you stand. 190 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 5: Hey Lee again, thanks for listening. We'll be back again 191 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 5: soon with more episodes. In the meantime, grown ups, tell 192 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 5: a friend about the show. If you or your kids 193 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 5: are enjoying it, it really helps us a lot. 194 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 2: Bye.